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what is a midi mono?
make me do something
MAKE ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNs6u7Ny4Rs
Any thoughts on Serum?
>>66342633
>tfw no masochist gf to say that
>>66342646
i guess it's mainly for faggy edm but you can use it for more interesting sounds if you wanted to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4nDfCeIz8o
>>66342599
a shitty meme, also
>>66342355
>>66342599
>>66342633
mad dubs in this /prod/
https://clyp.it/wby1v2as
what can I add to this? I'm planning to drum over it.
how do I make my very own vst
Update on my techno attempt: https://clyp.it/ebcgu2ad
I quite like it so far myself, but can't tell if too generic.
>>66342646
I love it. I use it for basically all my sounds.
how do i get my synths to sound as heavy as death grips get it? do they just compress the shit out of everything . or are they using crazy modular synths to get their sounds. or is it both????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydzj-L7nxyw
best example
>>66343120
lmao u's for real?
>>66343120
le troll iz gud
How do i make strings not sound like shite
how forced is this?
https://clyp.it/yx31442o
>>66344047
don't use any orchestral synth except maybe if you're using it for ambience
get a good library for kontakt or something
>>66342646
I've been trying to figure out how to use it for non-dubstep sounds...it seems like sweeping through the wavetables always gives you formant-like sounds, at least the ones that come with it.
>>66342646
serum is my go to for sub bass
it seems to have more clear of a low end than like operator or massive
idk i could be hearing things
but i like the organic noise and the attacks a lot too
it was worth the download
name a more based producer
>>66344048
https://clyp.it/11oekxl3
fixed the ukulele in the intro
What do you guys think?
https://clyp.it/q1tujshx
>>66344470
I like it.
hey guys
>https://clyp.it/roexunzo
This is the first time I've recorded my band. What is wrong / right with this mix?
I first tracked bass / guitar, then vocals, and added midi drums because fuck drum mics.
>>66345462
Sounds good
>>66342896
make something in reaktor and share with us all in the user library plix
>>66342851
Everyone practices differently in a musical sense. Honestly I would change the progression since it sounds a bit out (to me anyway) but apart from that maybe play around with an arpeggio in the higher register or a lower bassline to drive it.
>>66345086
Where is your mic placed? The guitar is washing everything out. I get that its just a bedroom thing but in the opening/closing section with those chords the vocals are just gone. Play with recording the guitar on its own then recording vocals seperately after, get your mic closer to your guitar/mouth respectively in those takes.
>>66345462
If you have a drummer but really can't be bothered close-micing everything, just get the kick-out and snare micd then try an ORTF config if you can get your hands on some figure8 mics. Gets a roomy sound but captures everything fairly well, google how to set up your mics for it. Can save a lot of time.
Mix-wise, at a few points your vocals sound like they're clipping so you might want to rerecord or otherwise fix those. I would also shift the bass slightly higher in the frequency spectrum (move your sub boost up about 50-100hz) then possibly drop the volume 3dB.
Otherwise sounding pretty cool, keep up the good work.
>>66344290
I want to punch him for dressing like a complete douche.
>>66346117
It was just a quick demo I recorded before class because I wanted to see how it sounded all together. I definitely plan on recording them separately.
Can anyone give me production advice for this slow track with a lot of huge pads?? Ignore the placeholder vocals, I know they're shit. Do you think I should make the rhythm stronger? are the whistles okay? Do my notes seem like they're not very well timed?
https://clyp.it/2h4mgnyk
Threw a quick noisy rock tune together lads
https://clyp.it/fuwjom1z
>>66346812
The percussion that comes in at about 1min thats panned to the right needs to come back a bit to fit in the mix. The pads all sound cool, all have a very M83 feel to them.
>>66342896
What this anon said >>66345792
The second thing you get to build while running through the tutorials that come with Reaktor is a delay unit
>>66342646
Serum is one of the best vst imo (make slides between different type of waves) but one thing is not enjoyable : how it consumes CPU.
Favorite VSTs : Serum / FM8 / Arturia Suite
Valhalla reverbs and echoes
>>66344290
Literally who, is his bitch real short or is he real tall
Anyone have experience with BWB? Thinking about buying this. Complete beginner trying to learn here.
http://www.busyworksbeats.com/musictheoryinaday/
https://clyp.it/n2ny34du
tried to make some gypsy shit and ended up with runescape music
>>66348914
I think that's pretty cool.
>>66348914
>gypsy shit
but it sounds nothing like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcZDsBy5Zzg
I have this terrible mixer and I want to get a Midiverb or Quadraverb. How would I connect my synth and drum machine to the reverb properly? Is it not possible with this mixer?
>>66349790
forgot to post pic
>>66349797
why does it have a send but no returns?
>>66342896
You program it in a language of your choice, though it's best if you choose C++.
>>66339313
What does Autechre do, algorithmic composition?
>>66350009
you plug the return(s) into a channel strip
>>66349790
why would you buy a mediocre verb unit and plug it into a shitty mixer? just save up and get a better mixer and fx unit
>>66350148
Those Alesis verb units were used by famous producers when they were poor, so now they're coveted by people who want the same shitty reverbs.
https://clyp.it/ehcpmvbk
>>66346365
peep the shades tho
>>66348241
he's like 6'10"
it's pretty lights
dude made a crate of vinyl to sample from some on-the-fly studio sessions trying to replicate different time periods and then using exclusively those samples and modular synths made a ridiculous album
if you like hip hop it's worth a listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNxxwqEWh88&list=PLRI0bqhn-VeZS6eLLyckf-R2mAd11LGjm&index=13
how do i get my bass to hit hard on bad speakers
like how the bass in pop songs still sounds good on shitty car speakers
>>66350964
You mix it on good speakers.
>>66350964
Layer a sub-based kick onto the start of the bass notes, then use a harmonic enhancer and add some saturation.
>>66351015
~helpful~
but really what are they doing specifically
like adding octaves, certain harmonics?
>>66351089
I never had good speakers in my life, so I can't help you.
It was just my bitterness speaking.
>>66351069
i always thought saturation ruined sub bass
i'll give it a shot tho thanks for the advice
>>66351109
A small amount helps. You don't want it obvious, just enough that its giving a small amount of harmonic content.
>>66351200
yo this actually sounds fucking great
i'll be incorporating it regularly. thanks a lot!
>>66351275
You're welcome man, gets massive sounds out of most synths.
Am I on my way to become someone that is considered a hack?
https://clyp.it/balhtg3k
>>66350148
You can either directly connect your drum machine and synth to the audio inputs of the Verb or buy a mixer with Aux sends, you then take the output from the effects unit in to a spare mixer channel and send the Aux to the effect input. This way you can send any of your other channels to the effects unit by turning up the Aux knob on that channel, this lets you put varying amounts of say reverb in your case on each instrument across the mixer
>>66351746
Pic related
>>66346365
spoken like a true 15 year old
>>66351089
>>66350964
dave pensado has a couple tutorials on getting good kicks, here is one of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVK5H_wNg7o
>>66345086
since this is a feedback thread don't take this the wrong way
dude, you need to practice vocals if you're going to sing
no guitar, just sing a capella for 30 minutes every day. record it and listen afterwards. when i first started doing that i physically cringed listening to myself, but i can confidently say my voice sounds great now
try finding stuff outside of your vocal range. sit up straight when you sing and do your best to source the vocals from your stomach while using your throat+mouth to change the pitch
>>66350813
dats p good
>mfw Viper is a better producer than me
>>66352485
viper is a better producer than everyone itt
can i get some feedback on this - https://clyp.it/zpqaml4k
just rough at the minute. want to work on my mixing so id prefer mixing feedback - anything sound out of place and if so could you outline how i could fix it i'd appreciate it.
thank u n godbless
>>66352719
sup?
i have no idea but i just wanted to say that this is solid wait-while-i-transfer-your-call-core
and bump this thread
kthxbai
poppin a bumper
https://clyp.it/lqwva0na
is it anti-climactic
also does the horn part fit?
>>66353780
add a scratch in the intro
>>66353780
>https://clyp.it/lqwva0na
horn part is too loud, sounds good tho
something sounds "off" with the piano, like the wrong key at parts. transition between chords is really harsh, too
>>66353923
agreed
>>66353711
sup brah
>solid wait-while-i-transfer-your-call-core
thanks mang
>>66353780
ohhh lord, man that is fucking delicious.not anti-climactic at all, perfect imo you don't want it to drop in too heavy but its enough to make you pull a lil stank face when it kicks in. horn fits in perfect. beautiful melodies bro.
can i ask how long you've been producing for?
thanks for blessing me with some groovy vibes
>>66352719
pretty good vibe
you bass line shouldn't exactly follow the root note of the chords tho. Maybe of the 2nd and 4th hits play a different note within the chord.
posted this yesterday but the thread died
https://clyp.it/oitzad4c
>>66342355
Me on the left.
>>66354065
it's decent enough, lad.
maybe a little bit of compression on that funky synth to bring dynamic range down a little.
pad is a bit boring but serviceable.
could do with a little bit of grit/dirt somewhere but that's just me.
>>66354179
Good taste my man, boxer briefs are really the way to go.
>>66354301
http://www.strawpoll.me/10729876
>>66353923
on it
>>66353964
thanks for the feedback
i definitely with you on the horns and the transitions but i'm not hearing what you're hearing with the piano
maybe it'll hit me later
>>66353971
thanks man glad you like it!
i mean i've been """""producing""""" since i was like 12 but i started taking it seriously around 15-16 so that'd be a little over 3 years
>>66354408
>girls panties
>1 vote
post clyp or gtfo
>>66354408
underarmour ftw
>>66354408
Well, the results are going to be skewed depending on the season. During winter, /prod/ding in briefs is good for warmth, but nothing beats loose boxers in the summer's heat.
>>66354470
>not "clyps or gtfo"
You had your chance and blew it.
>>66354703
Idk man, I don't like working in hot weather with boxers, too much sack stickage.
What do you use the session view on ableton for (when producing)?
>>66354751
>>66354703
>summer's heat
yeah, you want synthetic material to wick away swamp ass
>>66354754
viewing sessions
>>66354408
http://youtu.be/8qfP4TmM-QE
>>66346000
sure I'll try it.
>>66354751
>>66354788
A little breeze fixes that right up. You could try naked too, the freedom should seep into your choons.
>>66354754
I use it to create my structure, by using clips with variations in each track then test-jamming (with record enabled) to transfer the jam to Arrangement View.- any further variation would then be done in Arrangement View.
Each additional instrument would then be added in the same manner, by playing the arrangement and recording jams on the new tracks/clips in Session view.
>>66354703
i was trying to merge 2 memes senpai
>>66353982
yeah it does sound strange with a matching bassline actually, i didn't really notice. thanks.
What are some /prod/-approved sample packs?
Also what's your favourite vst?
>>66354754
session view all day boi
ill occasionally CTRL+SHIFT+W to get both views up which can be helpful if you're constantly changing between the two
>>66342902
Oooo!!!! That bass!!! I love it!!!!!
Very good atmosphere, too! I would make that white noise sweep a liiitttlleee louder. And also pan a bit more sounds way to the sides here and there, to make it more atmospheric. Those are just my suggestions. You don't have to. I like it.
>>66352419
Thanks man I appreciate any feedback and yeah my voice is shit. I just don't know how to find a voice I'm comfortable singing with.
>>66355091
not that anon, but expand from your speaking voice slowly. i've made a pasta for people who ask about singing:
Learn pranayama techniques for first-rate breath control.
Learn "Open Throat Singing".
Learn to accurately visualize the melody by listening to the song repeatedly before tackling it.
Experiment with your voice by listening to recordings of it and varying your approach.
Apply minimal effort necessary to achieve the intended result.
If it hurts, stop.
-
lastly, http://singwise.com/ is your friend
>>66346812
Hey, I remember you and this WIP! It's getting better. I say yeah, make the rhythm a little stronger.
>>66355123
Thanks a bunch man.
>>66354906
I wish I could make choons at work. But the money just isn't there
>>66354754
i use session view for the composition/performance phase. recorded ideas, store project samples to be processed/chopped, one shot clips, preliminary song arrangement organized by row.
then i use a launch pad to trigger everything, do as much of a live mix as i can with midi controllers and record it all into arrangement view for final mix edits.
>>66346812
nice stuff
i think the whistle might sound better backed up with a synth of some kind, maybe something with portamento
>>66354065
I like it. It's okay. I'd add a bit more of a presence/punch to the kick in the middle. Also I'm not really liking the way the "woah"s towards the end stand in the mix. Maybe take them back a bit or add a bit of reverb. They're so flat and 2D right now.
>>66355025
>What are some /prod/-approved sample packs?
Make your own your supposed to be a producer ffs
>Also what's your favourite vst?
Reaktor
Valhalla Vintage Verb
Waves J37 & MetaFlanger
N.I Replika & VC160
>>66352011
Not 15 just I hate when grown men have the fashion sense of a 15 year old
>>66355091
you'll find it man, takes some work, but you will
>>66354451
Do you have a soundcloud? I wanna hear the finished product
>>66356652
aayyy!
i'm happy you're into it
this is my sc https://soundcloud.com/glutenfreebeats
(sorry prod pls don't kill me)
>>66352474
right?
>get voice chips serviced on 106
>one of the chips fail after like 5 hours
>put new one in like a week later
>different voice chip fails after 5 hours
Wtf, is it even the chips at this point or is something else causing them to fail?
>>66357680
Probably a bad PSU sending voltage spikes that the chips can't handle. Try replacing the caps on the PSU.
https://clyp.it/x1r3tpgh
made a new sawng
comments appreciated
what's a good VSTi for jazz sounds like flutes, horns, etc.?
Omnisphere is really lacking in this department
https://clyp.it/arqiyak2
Am I justice yet?
>>66359045
Jazz VSTi for Jazz sounds made by the VST Team
>>66359045
Session horns by Native instruments
>>66354408
>48 posters
>14 votes
Come on folks, this is some important /prod/uduction related business
General Thoughts?
https://clyp.it/sa1qsvaq
Snake: https://clyp.it/j222umch
>>66354408
what in fuck is a nanner hammock?
>>66361576
Banana hammock. I prefer using nanner in place of banana for most cases.
>>66361736
wtc?
>>66361736
oh dear lord
>>66355306
>>66354239
thanks for the feedback!
great points all around
can someone post an example of this in a track?
really struggling to wrap my head round it
>>66362239
>if it doesn't then its your own silly fault for mixing prog rock
>>66362239
It makes sense without an example.
Double-tracking is traditionally achieved by layering two performances of the same passage on top of each other - if you have a piece of music where the performer has repeated a passage that is two performances of the same passage - you take the second passage (the second part of the piece) and layer it over the first, and you take the first and layer it over the second.
>>66362440
so the same four chords on top of each other?
okay, I guess that works great for live recordings, but for midi it's sounds fairly redundant
>>66362517
It is, yeah, totally redundant except for maybe really temperamental analogue gear that might change enough over time. But for guitars it's pretty useful. Sometimes works with vocals in a chorus too, but not always since a singer tends to vary intensity with later choruses.
fucking around a bit
https://clyp.it/y3jk0ts1
is there hope for me?
>>66362239
they are saying if you have a chord progression (say it's 4 measures long), when you are recording, play it twice (so its a 8 measure long recording).
Place the first 4 measures of the recording on track 1 and pan it all the way left. Then place the last 4 measures of the recording on track 2 so it is playing at the same time as opposing track and pan track 2 all the way right.
>>66362590
>>66362605
gotcha, appreciate the replies
the only time I was genuinely stumped by this book, was probably the wording more then anything
>>66362358
speaking of which, this is p cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1LofJ21_V0
>>66361736
oh garsh im feelin funny in my private parts
>>66362809
you're just insecure aren't you
>>66362600
talented imo
>>66342355
What are some decent DAWs lads
>>66362848
my pastor told me that these are bad feelings
how to make synth pop
>>66362851
>>66362809
Wait, am I not the only gay guy in /prod/ anymore?
There's a deal on Komplete 10 at my local music store, it's currently £289 and I can pay in instalments of £24 a month for 12 months if I want
Is it worth it? It seems vastly huge, I'm just afraid I wouldn't end up using half of it.
What does Komplete Ultimate have that 10 doesn't?
>>66363854
>£289
Nah, can be had for $200 burgerbucks. They're trying to rip you off
how can you make harsh noise sound comfy like 2:00 in this? is it just eq work?
https://youtu.be/uNdqjKWVXCU?t=2m4s
been playing keyboard and guitar all my life
Always wanted to do some self production but didn't have resources now
I have borrowed an interface from a friend and I've got a midi 2 usb for my shitty keyboard
I've hooked myself up with Reaper and have been teaching myself to use it
But GODDAM it I cannot get my synths to ever sound how I want. I have been using DSK's free VSTs. Are these bad or am I just an idiot? Are there better VSTs I should be looking for? I prefer free (or torrentable) or is there some beginner's guide to making good sounding synths?
>>66343120
can I get an actual answer?
>>66364543
What kind of synth sounds are you looking for, are you looking for classic-sounding analogue synth sounds, or something more digital with more parameters to mess with? Any particular model of synth you can name that you'd like to get the sounds of?
>>66364591
Everyone thought you were meming because it's deaf grapes and they're easy sounds to make.
Try reading though these articles, then come back to us. It's in reverse chronological order, so start from the bottom.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160403115835/http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/allsynthsecrets.htm
Is using a tr-808 in the drum machine program "Hydogen" for talentless hacks?
>>66364910
Btw.
This post isn't meant to be insulting, just generally informative. If those articles don't answer any question you may have, /prod/ may help you but it's not likely we're any better than SOS.
I have a electribe 2 which I think is garbage. Should I sell and invest in a sampler?
>>66366242
Using a TR-808 actually makes you a patrician, so kudos to you.
>>66366249
A wise man once told me to never sell gear to afford different gear. Get a sampler and use it with your electribe. If that doesn't work, find a non-gear related reason to sell it like rent or a car payment.
>>66366272
It just feels dirty though
like it's too easy
>>66366333
That's just how good the 808 was. It's basically butter.
Not sure about the capabilities of Hydrogen, but if you can change all of the drum parameters, then just have at it. Don't feel ashamed if it sounds good.
>>66366309
that piece of "advice" is utter bullshit though. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting rid of your unused/unwanted gear if something else catches your eye.
>>66366598
The point was that you just come out negative if you keep buying things and selling them. If you want to end up in the red, that's your own prerogative.
>>66366598
The only people I've met who do this kind of shit where they continually trade in things they buy for other things are poor people. There is some truth to this.
>>66366640
you're going to be spending money anyway. there is nothing wrong with upgrading your studio. That doesn't mean I condone being a gear queen. But if you have hardware that you don't use or don't like, selling it to afford something better is the wise thing to do
and I have gotten lucky with at least 2 synths I own (that I bought within the last years) which I can def sell for more than I bought them (used)
>>66366678
nobody said "continually". Guy doesn't like his drum machine, guy wants to get something different. For all you know he's been using the same electribe for years and maybe an elektron machine would be up his alley
>>66366640
>implying anyone has ever come out positive with a /prod/ hobby
>>66366771
There's nothing wrong with selling gear, I'm just advising him to buy it before he sells the old thing. I just think financing new gear with old gear is a bad habit, akin to buying gear on credit because you can't pay for it in full. If you can't afford it, you can't afford it is all I'm really trying to say.
>>66366771
Just providing an anecdote. The poor ass people I was mentioning never even got into production anyways, most just got into car mods, guns and stereo systems.
https://clyp.it/xxdob0ae
what do you think so far prod? any suggestions for finishing this track?
>>66367133
Intro is too long/repetitive imo.
But sounds really good besides that
How the fuck do producers like metro boomin, zaytoven, etc make their 808 bass? I'm an FL poorfag, but I downloaded a pack of sounds that 808 mafia apparently uses, but they sound like garbage, and the pitch loses precision quickly even if you go up a few notes.
I tried to make my own using WASP with basically just a simple sinewave, but it still doesn't sound right. Is there any trick for how the volume envelope should be? Any effects such as reverb or whatever? I'd really like to know.
>>66367379
808 isn't just a sine wave, it was originally generated from a special circuit called a bridged-T circuit, so just generating sines isn't enough. Just work with samples or use some plugin that claims to make an 808 bass.
It's pretty tough to emulate that bass without a plug-in designed specifically to do so.
>>66364591
sounds like they take a pretty basic waveform like a square wave, mess around with the envelope to get a warped sound, and then use digital amps to make it sound crunchy/heavy
A couple questions:
1. How do I record an amp and not have the sound of me strumming the guitar strings in the background? Do I have to put the amp and mic in a different room or something?
2. How does Dan Barrett (Giles Corey, Have a Nice Life) make those "drops" that are in so many of his songs, where everything just seems to expand and get more intense (most of the time without actually getting louder)? Is there a word for this, or a specific technique?
Example: https://youtu.be/F44xQcbvdds
>>66367379
>the pitch loses precision quickly even if you go up a few notes.
They're out of tune and it's only apparent once they reach a certain point where your ears are better able to discern pitch. You need to get the sample in tune, either manually or with a sampler VST that can do it automatically.
>I tried to make my own using WASP with basically just a simple sinewave, but it still doesn't sound right.
The 808 bass drum isn't a single sine wave, it has harmonics. I'm not sure how you could go about exactly replicating the harmonics, but the lack of harmonics in your sine-based recreation is the main reason why it sounds so different.
>>66367291
thanks, will fix the intro!
How come my audio's all messed up in Reaper? I'm pretty new to it so it's probably a simple fix but when I have record monitoring on the signal's really laggy and when it's off it's too loud. How can I get this to work? I just wanna be able record quick demos that don't sound like total shit for now, I don't care much about going in depth with it yet
Hey /prod/
I need new studio monitors
I originally bought 2 Tannoy 402 4" monitors, but they're just too small and have real issues in bass regions on higher volumes.
I'm planning on getting 8" ones, since i think 5" will run into the same problems (correct me if i'm wrong though)
I currently have my eyes on JBL LSR 308, as i've heard that the 305s are one of the most beloved 5" models. Any other suggestions? Maybe even something better that is even cheaper since i'm a jew? 190€ price range is okay though.
>>66366824
>If you can't afford it, you can't afford it is all I'm really trying to say
but he can afford it once he sells the thing he doesnt want anymore
holy fuck lol
>>66363854
You can compare them both on Native instruments website.
Ultimate pretty much has everything, and ultimate has a lot of the essentials but is missing alot of the effects, when you look at the price difference it makes it pretty tempting though.
I think both are still missing Reaktor 6 though which is the real shitter as it's the best thing they do and will cost you another £90 to upgrade from 5 to 6.
is studying sound engineering worth it? be honest
We should make genre weeks and competitions and stuff like that because I'm really uninspired.
>>66362953
write a pop song
use synth
the end
>>66370116
Not if you're not going to become a sound engineer
>>66370673
can I become a sound engineer if I'm poor?
>>66370733
You can become a sound engineer by studying sound engineering
What kind of questions are these?
The point is, if you're not going to actually get a job as sound engineer, and only want to study it because you want to make better music, then no it's not fucking worth it.
>>66370733
if you steal all the expensive equipment and software you need, yeah
>>66370218
I agree, I'm not really in inspired but working with genres outside my usual would be fun and there's always new stuff to learn. I've recently been trying to make jungle which is something I've never done before and really enjoyed chopping up and re reprogramming breaks.
I've suggested on here a few time about uploading a small sample pack and getting anyone interest to make what they want from them but there's never any interest
>>66370218
Good idea anon. I could also use something like that
>>66370877
let's do something RIGHT NOW
somebody upload a sample pack please
>>66370877
Well there's just not a lot of people in these threads and half of those who are are just getting into production, ask for advice.
>>66370925
Unfortunately I'm at work all week, but will defiantly be interested.
alright. make a footwork song based off this sample;
https://clyp.it/o2hpw2hm
https://clyp.it/o2hpw2hm
https://clyp.it/o2hpw2hm
>>66370925
okey i will select some stuff semi-randomly from some of my folders
>>66343120
more like how did they do it on this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT634tVg1OA
>>66342355
Aphex twin, justice, infected mushroom? And who is the last guy supposed to be?
>>66366788
>implying /prod/ isn't straight-up signing up for a life of debt
>>66372503
Dj Tiesto
where can you find good tutorials?
Is it possible to make great underground house that gets played out and not have it sound repetitive and lack melody?
Do you guys throw a glue compressor onto the master buss in your final mix just to add that little bit more gel or do you save all that business for the mastering stage?
>>66374669
usually, that or pro-c
>>66374669
No, a multiband would be better served on you Master.
Use Glue compressors on your busses to make elements gel.
It looks like boxer briefs are the official undergarment of /prod/
New poll time
http://www.strawpoll.me/10737110
Should I get an XDJ-R1 for £480? Seems like a cheap way to get into DJing besides getting a controller.
>>66374921
Might be worth looking for a used set of cdj350/400s and a mixer. Same setup pretty much but possibly cheaper/more flexible
>>66374921
>XDJ-R1
You don't need a controller to start digital DJing, you just need a mouse
>>66374956
I mean I've been DJing for about year or so now, but I just want to buy my own equipment. It was a choice of either save up for CDJs or buy a controller and get CDJs later, but getting essentially 2CDJs + mixer for £480 seems pretty good to me.
>>66374953
>possibly cheaper
Doesn't look like it's close to the same value for money.
>>66374910
It doesn't matter what I prefer since all roads lead to wizardry for me. Not long now.
>>66374497
Lynda.com is pretty good
sup /prod/
Is there a strategic reason for flattening/freezing/rendering tracks to audio before doing a mixdown?
In the industry recording/tracking, production, mix engineering, mastering are all separate processes typically handled by separate individuals/teams of people. The tracks that get sent from one team to another are typically multitracks of the rendered audio and not necessarily a 'working' project file.
Since most bedroom producers work alone, all of these processes tend to get convoluted. Sometimes the mix engineering starts happening before all the recording is done or even ideas are created... I'm wondering if this influences the quality of the outcome.
>>66375643
Tough break, I've been with all three. Didn't vote since I still don't know what I prefer.
>>66374733
That's the point though, right?
I've been told not to use multiband compressors on a master buss because it's best left up to a professional
>>66375690
The main reason that you'd render everything to audio is to ensure compatibility - you could be using VST instruments that the mixing engineer either doesn't have on their system or that they have an out-dated version of.
You could also argue that once the composition of the music has been completed it makes sense to have the composition (choice of instrument and the notes that are played) fixed, with a mixing engineer only having control over balance.
>>66375976
right, i just assumed you knew anything on the master should be removed before sending out for professional mastering.
I suggested multiband because that will get you a closer simulation of what a pro master would sound like.
>>66376001
that makes sense.
but is there any reason why doing that could benefit the production sonically?
>>66376103
Not sonically, no. If anything I'd say the opposite is true, that the more control a mixing engineer has the better they can work with the material - if the mixing was done in conjunction with the composer/producer they'd be able to make more fundamental changes to the piece but then the mixing engineer would be co-producing and that's maybe not what the composer/producer wants to have happen.
It could come down to not wanting to give the mixing engineer production points and the related royalties or it might just be mainly about preserving the composition, and ultimately about keeping control of the individual roles in the team separate.
can i get some backfeed on this pls - https://clyp.it/wpd41eg5
>>66375690
while what >>66376001 said is correct, i will flatten my tracks before the final mixdown (i do mixdown as i go, so this only applies to the last pass, which for the most part only takes care of stray peaks.
1. ableton's metering is a bit shit
2. seeing odd spikes in waveforms is just easier on a time line (it's also easier to 'cheat' and duck them manually)
3. effects that leave tails behind (e.g. delays, verbs etc) can be a nightmare to diagnose in realtime as the tails can vary depending on where in the time you hit play.
doing this is particularly helpful if maintaining loudness, while having a clip-free, mix is important in your area of music.
>>66377297
>ableton's metering is a bit shit
It's not the best, true. I always resize my meter window frame to the largest I can get to get a better view, and have my default view (Preferences --> Save Current Set As Default) with the resize set to maximum.
Small part of my remix, I don't think I'll have enough space to incorporate all these samples.
Not sure what to add/improve yet because I still kinda suck at prod, but I'll keep working.
https://clyp.it/vicz1won
This was the previous part I posted here, already month has passed holy shit:
https://clyp.it/wffwcchv
Also I got this part, will probably place it as an intro, but something is still missing here.
https://clyp.it/fenvbof0
Still very rough shit but gotta arrange all of it first, ofc.
is there any way to customize the value that displays below macro controls in ableton? my workaround for now is to just write which range of numbers represents what using Edit Info Text, but it'd be great if i just had a way to make that same information show up as different values while you were turning the macro knob
>>66378892
I liked the first clypit. You need to Bring the vocals foward tho they sound way back. It should sound like they are in the same world not two separate world's next to each other ya know? Also change out the drums in the intro they sound "cheap". Keep it up
>>66379174
How do I EQ drums better? Those were some VEE samples I tried to fix. I also have Addictive drums but I don't know if I should just use them instead. That way I'm not learning anything though.
>>66342355
https://clyp.it/ynadffhm
Newb here, I know it's probably really bad..
Give me constructive pointers?
>>66380210
Not bad, not really my thing composition-wise but thats more down to personal taste. Try to get your hands on some new samples, as many as you can from wherever you can provided they're high-quality. Your mixing needs a lot of work, look up some tutorials (one thing I can distinctly hear on my monitors is the high-mids in that highhat, too sibilant and forward). Otherwise its all just a matter of experience.
Good luck
>>66363521
what the fuck you talking about? at least half the niggas in /prod/ is some kind of fag.
>>66380590
Appreciate it man, I'm trying hard to learn it's a lot to take in though.
I have no idea about mixing really, any pointers? I have really bad speakers and will do for a couple of weeks, can you mix properly even with cheap shitty ones?
Thanks for the feedback regardless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXj8FM7lTrw
ok /prod/
what synths were used
Fug, I have no idea how to improve anymore. Does Lynda have some good tutorials on music production? I'm never able to make sounds in my head in a daw.
>post related
>>66378892
But actually, I think I have a problem with instrumentation too, something is always missing.
>>66379041
Do you mean renaming the macro label to the parameter name, or do you mean changing the units that the macro counts in?
>>66380599
More votes are needed to back up your claim.
Gearfaggotry doesn't count
>>66367550
An amp is supposed to be quite loud, it should cover the noise of the strings and keep you at a good distance from the mic.
>>66380656
There's no nice way to say it, no you cannot mix well on shit speakers. Using a set as reference speakers later to hear how stuff sounds? Sure. I demo plenty of mixes in my car and off a phone to check phase issues and EQ/balancing but apart from that you want to be primarily mixing on good quality monitors, or some decent headphones at least (DON'T read that as earbuds).
If you're really struggling/are too lazy to find reading material, have a hunt through this
https://theproaudiofiles.com/
They have some fantastic info on there, and a lot of it should still make sense to a beginner such as yourself.
Possibly the most important thing to remember when mixing is "less is more". Don't always use FX %100 wet, remember the differences between using aux and inserts for your plugins. Subtlety is key to this, and you don't develop an ear for it overnight. Keep trying at it and eventually you'll pick stuff up.
[spoiler]Seriously though invest in some good monitors, shit monitors/headphones mean a shit mix.[/spoiler]
>>66380933
it only lets you pick one, also your mother wasn't an option
>>66380691
303 for the synth solo at the end
I think the synth pads at the beginning were some kind of FM, but couldn't really tell due to the blanket of flange that was over everything
>>66381039
I don't see you making straw polls Mr. Ching Chong a Nip Nong
>>66342355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhWJrKTrpQ4
How to get similar sounds to this? what vst could match this closest?
>>66380753
i guess changing the units that it counts in... although not even that really.
what i did was make a midi device rack with ten different ableton chord plugins, each with a different chord shape, and program their on/off buttons to certain sections of the first macro control. it'd be cool if it could display the name of the chord plugin that you set it to instead of just a 0-127 value.
>>66381124
lol wut, I don't think there is a 303 in that entire track, the sounds post 5:30 are like an actual bass guitar with fx and a fm bass/maybe an m1.
How can I make my sounds fuller, wider and more present? I'm struggling to find a good tutorial on that.
>>66382321
4:45 is a 303
>>66382479
reverb, track doubling, delaying left and right channels...
>>66382598
thanks
Can you guys tell me literally about your whole path in music production, from the beginning up until now? What resources did you use, how much time did you spend practicing, when did you start gitting gud etc.
I've been playing with FL for 2+ years and I still haven't finished anything, just hundreds of wips and sketches. I even had some lessons on audio engineering basics at my college and I know some of a theory, I watched many tutorials on yt, but they were never really that helpful, a lot of them are baits. Only seamless helped here and there with technicalities but he isn't that good for me either.
I still have a pretty shitty workflow and don't know what I'm doing. Shit is all over the place and it makes it even harder to work.
I'm not even sure what to look for at the moment.
I found that looking through fl projects and analyzing stuff is a great way to learn, but it's hard to find good projects to download.
It would be so much easier with a mentor...
https://clyp.it/jlouli5a
does this sound done? I can't decide if I wanna add to it and if I do what.
>>66383452
fl for 2+ years?
find a real daw first. one of the biggest learning experiences for me was leaving fl to try different daws and experimenting with their features to attain a more desired sound
btw, if you aren't skilled at experimenting in order to improve and expect to solely rely on the knowledge of other you should find another hobby
>>66383490
>https://clyp.it/jlouli5a
shorten the part b/w 1 to 2 mins
otherwise, well done. was a pleasant track
>>66383545
Fl studios is a "Real daw" you dimwit
>>66383452
I got into fl studios because I wanted to be the next daft punk when I was super young, lol. I played around remixin things, usually video game music. You're right, its good to see how those are composed and made. Then I wanted to get serious with it 4 years later. I read and still read lots of books on mixing, mastering, composing, every aspect really. They help, READ THEM. Watch videos too, but good ones.
Find a synth that you like, keep with it, then start going on to others.
Ignore the shit grammar and stuff, im half drunk
>>66383545
Is this a meme or not? FL has everything like any other daw, right? Why would I switch and have to get used to the workflow all over again?
I wanted to try pro tools, though, but it's hard to find it. I'm not doing only electronic btw. I also have the FL license so there's that.
Of course I'm experimenting, but I know that I lack knowledge. It would be stupid to learn it the hard way if I can learn from masters.
>>66383694
As someone who used FL for 8 years and ableton for 4 (I still prefer FL btw). Use Ableton if you're doing live records.
FL is very bad for live recordings.
How does multitrack recording that involves a mixer and a computer work? I would assume the mixer sums everything to a single channel which is recorded to a computer but I've seen studio pictures of mixers with computers that have multiple tracks. So why even have the mixer there when the DAW can do everything?
>>66357680
>"analog is fun" they said
>>66384947
>trying to shit up another thread with your bullshit
>>66384124
>How does multitrack recording that involves a mixer and a computer work?
the audio signal is sent through USB/Firewire, split in whatever many channels.
>I would assume the mixer sums everything to a single channel which is recorded to a computer but I've seen studio pictures of mixers with computers that have multiple tracks
Cheaper mixers will only send the single Stereo master signal, but you can have true multitracking for ~$300 if you know where to look for a used Alesis Multimix 12 or 16
>So why even have the mixer there when the DAW can do everything?
The DAW cannot multitrack with a mixer that does not have multitracking.....the mixer splits the signal, the computer just records it....
>>66385062
>doesn't want to admit that his outdated overpriced garbage that people used to sell for 20 bucks is anything but a purist hipster fad
>>66385114
i dont even own any analog stuff, it's just painfully obvious that you're
>trying to shit up another thread with your bullshit
>>66385133
it ain't bullshit if its true, bucko
>>66385152
>MY opinions are FACTS
sure they are, sport
>>66362600
i fuck with it, not something i would listen to but something id use in a video if that makes sense?
>>66364147
probably just eq work, maybe some compression.
