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/growthefuckup/
/hype/?
i know he releases like 50 albums a year but i'm hype for every one of them
>>66236839
Indeed.
Did anyone happen to get that boxset that they put out, First Four i believe?
this was a great listen
>I'm a noise man myself, Kazumoto Endo, the Gerogerigegege, Sissy Spacek, Yellow Swans, I Am A Lake Of Burning Orchids, I could go on...
Awful.
>>66236951
Damn, I knew I was forgetting someone in >>66236982
These threads are such cancer.
>>66236881
what do you want from us
go away. go bug someone else
its not our fault you had a bad childhood
>>66236910
Who's the artist for this album? Just wondering.
>>66237005
>>66236982
>lmao dude I will list the classics of a genre and blame people for listening to them
>am I not such a special snowflake
is noise rock ok?
>>66237039
Most of those aren't classics by a long shot, you just think they are because they're /mu/ and RYM meme albums and the only source of information you have on noise are these shitty-ass threads. Way to expose yourself as a fucking ignorant buffoon.
Even assuming they were classics, it'd be nice if these threads moved on from them after THREE FUCKING YEARS.
someone rec me some patrician noise
any recs if i enjoyed this
>>66236982
okay, than what are better artists
>>66237137
>Way to expose yourself as a fucking ignorant buffoon.
Oh woop de fucking do
What a crime
>>66237208
I'm not gonna spoonfeed you, especially not in a genre that's as easy to explore as noise. Fuck off.
>>66237213
He's right, though
You're all embryos
>>66236982
forgot about fernow, cremation lily, alberich, hair police, ffh, burning star core, akitsa, wolf eyes, a dilloway, puce mary, j wiese, pure, damien dubrovnik, lr, torturing noise, ramleh, whitehouse, incapacitants, hanatarash, masonna merzbow, hijokaidan, j crumer, k drumm, grunt, rita, vomir, sutcliffe jugend, grim, genocide organ and on and on
>>66237235
>complains about people not knowing better artists
>doesn't let people know of better artists
>>66237235
>artists you listen are memes xD
>ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ASKING ME TO EXPLAIN MY REASONING
Get the fuck out of here
You make no contribution. Idiots like you swarm these threads every time thinking you are crusading or something
>>66237235
goofster identified. goof elsewhere
>>66237268
I don't know what your angle here is, buddy.
>>66237299
If you wanted to know you would have figured it out by yourself by now. Like I said, it's been 3 years.
>>66237268
please explain your grievances
>>66237012
new Kevin Drumm record, called Runtish
supposed to have been released a few days ago but i can't find it yet
>>66237309
Why would I make a contribution to a general which I thought was a mistake from day one?
>>66237331
See >>66237339
>If you wanted to know you would have figured it out by yourself by now. Like I said, it's been 3 years.
http://forum.noiseguide.com/
>>66237350
what grievances?
dude listed some popular noise acts and said that he forgot to add someone
i helped him out
>>66237368
So you prefer insulting everyone and shitposting like a nigger? Great to know, cunt
also this was a neato blend of noise styles and you should listen to it
>>66237350
probably that this general has been extremely stagnant and uninformed ever since it began (which was 2 years ago btw, not 3), that the only artists that get mentioned here are the most entry-level of the entry-level and that people here seem to have some sort of a full-on handicap when it comes to finding new music on their own
/noise/ was a mistake
>>66237368
>Why would I make a contribution to a general which I thought was a mistake from day one?
So is it your job in 2016 now to just post how bad it is? Genuinely curious, you & maybe 1 other poster seem intent in complaining in every thread to the point where its autistic. I'm 90% certain you're boldfaure at this point.
>>66237208
kristian olsson
ülex xane
sal scarpulla
john duncan
dan johansson (and related gothenburg ppl)
roger karmanik
pretty much everyone who appeared on this tape
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Slutstationen/release/5408886
a lot of other people
here's an idea:
instead of arguing with people that don't want to, and will never, contribute anything positive to these threads, post what you've listened to lately
pic related
this thread is goofy as shit
you all are just goofy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBrqUO4MqoQ
>>66236951
Speaking of, 10" reissue of Dilloway's Songs About Jason should be dropping soon. My copy's on the way!
>>66236924
Yep
>>66237299
Spoonfeeding, etc, hrf blarfd
>>66236982
>more obscure means better
oyyyy ayyy
>>66237427
Everybody and their mother knows about Pedestrian Deposit and they were one of the first bands to get ran into the ground in /noise/.
>>66237451
>(which was 2 years ago btw, not 3)
Huh, time sure seems to slow down when you're scrolling through shit threads on /mu/.
>>66237466
>I'm 90% certain you're boldfaure at this point.
I don't know who that is.
>>66237501
>post what you've listened to lately
>>66237427
So far I'm liking this quite a bit. It's alot more dynamic than most harsh noise.
4chan overlords please ban all generals, they are a pox
>>66237501
this is a meme album you snagged off that one embryo tripfag's albums chart
embryos everywhere ITT
>>66237501
No one ever listens to this advice, tbqh but I'm down. Decided to try The Muse finally. It wasnt what I expected but it was still good. Tempted to buy it on CD to see if he has a sheet of what all he's saying in the tracks.
>>66237570
>pic
wew that cover is absolutely vile
>>66237593
i haven't looked through /noise/ charts in over a year. i found them through a chain of interrelated last.fm artists
>>66237495
at least this guy recced stuff, thanks man
>>66237570
>he's heard random shitty HNW but isn't familiar with one of the most notable noise acts of the last 15 years
wew lad, straighten out your priorities
>>66237634
huh, maybe you are the chart embryo man in question then
couldve sworn it was a tripfag though
>im into italian noise, maurizio bianchi, atrax morgue, dead body love, luigi russolo, the list goes on and on!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ciJsQ8Yjao
>>66237557
>Everybody and their mother knows about Pedestrian Deposit and they were one of the first bands to get ran into the ground in /noise/.
ok?
>this one autist
>>66237701
I'm just saying, if you're trying to be useful you should... you know, try to be useful.
>>66237701
He checkmated you there embryo! Teach you to enjoy a noise musician's output.
>>66237680
i don't make charts.
you're funny, though. you cry that no one just explores and roams noise trying to find shit themselves, but when people do just that you spout wild theories that serve to fuel your cynicism and crying
holy shit just fucking chill
>>66237755
>try to be useful
>i'm going to shit on every post and refuse to contribute because everyone should have heard all the same releases by now
Anyone been to any of the recent International Noise Conference dates?
Went to mine about a week ago - lots of great local acts I'd never heard of in addition to the few I had.
What is some good entry level noise
>>66237755
>you should... you know, try to be useful.
doc brown is incapable of this
i distinctly remember him and a couple other tripfags getting grilled regularly in /noise/'s early days for not knowing anything about noise and jumping onto it just for the sake of looking interesting to their other tripfag buddies, and nothing has really changed since then. it's just that the posters who knew he was a joke moved on and got replaced by posters who know even less about noise than he does, and by their standards he's an expert.
why do all the shit /noise/ tripfags stay here while the good ones leave? what happened to scumbag? what happened to VGNSR? what happened to that dude with the huge prurient collection?
>>66237835
/noise/ is all entry-level noise, all the time
take your pick
What is the most melancholic album you guys know of?
>>66237845
Scumbag was fucking awesome, you're right, he was a true bro. I miss him. I remember him mentioning having two jobs & having a family too. Hopefully everything's okay.
>>66237835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euHoHdpGOa0
>>66237845
>why do all the shit /noise/ tripfags stay here while the good ones leave?
There's only so much retardation a person can take until they decide that they've had enough.
>>66237885
It's this one noise album called Going Places that was made by this obscure noise band called Yellow Swans.
I'm sure you've never heard of it, it never gets posted here.
>>66237933
>>66237935
Oh, fucking hell.
>>66237765
We're pretty much in a stage /metal/ in, but instead of memes, we get autists who think they're proving a point with their frustration.
>>66237954
Total laffo
>>66237935
>I'm sure you've never heard of it
I've noticed it's a meme here but also I've heard it already before visiting /noise/.
>>66237845
>not knowing anything about noise and jumping onto it just for the sake of looking interesting to their other tripfag buddies
if i wanted to look cool on /mu/ i'd listen to post-punk
by nobody's standards am i an expert and i don't claim to be
I like listening to noise, I like discussing noise, I like finding new noise to listen to
what's the fucking problem
I miss when people could share their own noise in these threads and get legitimate feedback from fellow musicians... Those were the days. Back when these threads didn't get derailed fucking immediately!
to the anon(s) discontent with the present state of /noise/:
how can we appease you
do you want us to learn more about noise?
do you want us to listen to more noise?
is it neither of those?
please respond. i want to know what you're trying to achieve right now
not sure if this is the best place to post this, but since there's not a /noise rock/ thread up right now, I'll post it here. What's the harshest noise rock you guys have?
>>66238030
>feedback
heh
>>66238050
You won't get a real answer. They're about pointing out what they perceive to be problems, not providing solutions to them.
>>66237989
>post-punk is "cool" music
i want this meme hell to end.
>what's the fucking problem
the problem is you're not hopping on this dick like you're supposed to, you bad boy
>>66238030
nah, bandcamp/soundcloud spam was cancer and it was always blatant that 95% of the people who spammed their crap here didn't even listen to noise or, to sound like a cunt, "get it" or get that there is indeed a difference between good noise and bad noise
some of the reactions they got were pretty fucking funny too, people faux-creaming themselves over shit that was blatantly made in audacity in 45 minutes tops. pretty funny.
i often(well not really often but whatever) think about how /noise/ would have ended up if a "no spoonfeeding/no self-promotion" policy was installed here right when the general began
for some reason i think it would have ended up a lot better than it ended up
or at least it would have a chanced
>>66238050
i'm not really discontent with /noise/ desu, i think this generals days are numbered anyway. there's better shit to expend mental activity on than the state of 4chan threads lmao
i just join in on the roasting when someone else is already doing it
>>66238234
A handful of those artists were actually pretty talented, and even the shitty ones were encouraged to keep trying like a year or two ago... It never used to be so elitist
>>66238234
>i just join in on the roasting
yes and to participate in the roast there must exist a beef
what is your beef, and how can we (or at least i) see to its resolution
>>66238234
>the problem is you're not hopping on this dick like you're supposed to, you bad boy
well just have 2 see about that
>>66238030
i remember this guy who fucked with a tape of old medical notes or something and it came out in like fragments of description of the injuries and it was really really cool
can't remember for the life of me who it was though
>>66238305
there was actually a pretty funny thread yesterday which laid out the problems with this general and some other generals very well i thought, i'll just quote that relevant text because i'm a lazy fuck.
>/noise/ - underage overload, nothing but kids who have no idea what they're talking about and spamming awful Bandcamp and Soundcloud crap. zero education on the genre and its history, zero capability to find music on their own(the same 10-15 meme albums from /mu/ and RYM get discussed over and over and over, and seeing people talk about big black, animal collective and lightning bolt under the impression that they are relevant to the general's purpose is not uncommon), they can't even explain what it is they like about noise and instead just get belligerent when asked. no other general on /mu/ is as unqualified to discuss its subject. no reason to exist.
>(or at least i) see to its resolution
quite a few lads tried that. they don't post in /noise/ anymore and haven't posted in it for a long time. i wonder why?
>>66237356
It's literally on his bandcamp https://kevindrumm.bandcamp.com/album/runtish-ep
Trying to find Kapotte Muziek downloads is hard
this is pretty good
>>66238531
what constantly ails me is figuring out how to talk about noise
i can never describe noise beyond a sequence of vaguely defined sounds or whatever emotions they imbue me with, an inhibition i'm always dissatisfied with
>>66238781
mega:///#F!ZMtRyZYS!UCn0Y0dmJtfxK7dJXjjB_Q read up on how others do it. It helps.
>>66238781
Talk about how harsh vs soft it is
How minimalistic vs maximalistic it is
How dynamic vs static it is
A E S T H E T I C
lmao you guys are the reason why noise threads are so fucking shitty
>>66237791
Anyone?
Any of you chronic complainers wanna show off how noisepatrician you are and drop some local names that embryos will never hear of?
>>66236924
Xern0n did you had time to get those First Two Records of Crumer on what? It's been a long time since I've bothered you, these threads are dead anyway.
>>66237501
really good, moody minimal industrial/dark ambient. Last track he uses D. Galás Litanies of Satan in a really cool way. This is the same dude behind Zero Kama
>>66239353
lol you are fucking stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3unm6wU2WU
>>66241783
This is the sort of shit that gives noise a bad rep. Fucking pathetic on every level.
>>66241835
I don't care about art man! I don't want people to like me! What are you doing in my swamp??? Lol! Haha, sorry if you're having a stressful day man!
>>66241783
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVtuwxeqBYM
???
>>66241916
>I don't care about art man! I don't want people to like me!
wow, what a novel motivation
end yourself my man
Has anyone else read it? I'm 144 pages in and it's pretty compelling thusfar
>>66241971
You could go out on a date with a girl, and tell her all about your art projects man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrG6vXb-Uf0
Real art, yeaaaaaaa layin' it down.
>>66241930
first fucking thing i thought of lmao
>>66242019
>and tell her all about your art projects man!
nah, i'm too talentless to even be a noise musician.
>>66242107
No way man, just stand there and do nothing!
>>66237190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miXRKvbTFfM
assuming you haven't heard this already
rhythmic noise basically, yes? some power electronics is very rhythmic, genocide organ for example
>>66242488
that album is a beast
I really don't understand why people still thinking making these threads is a good idea. They're definitely among the most toxic and irredeemable parts of this board, and that's saying something.
Noise threads either die after a few dozen posts of the same token albums or they turn into antagonistic/shitposting disasters like this one, and clutching onto those extremely brief periods when they were somewhat decent doesn't remove the fact that they have been terrible for the vast majority of their existence.
>>66242629
It's not our fault that people feel like they need to challenge us all the time.
>>66242629
true if you want to talk about noise on a forum just go to special interests or stench forums or whatever
So who here makes noise?
>>66243168
https://soundcloud.com/myneighborsatan1/untitled-1
>>66243207
your shit is terrible, some of the worst soundcloud noise that gets posted in this general
just whipped up a cheeky wall in audacity
>>66242669
But it is your fault that you keep beating a dead horse.
>>66239308
fix link.
>>66243168
I have. Im completely amateur.
Best song I made is literally just me yelling paulstretched over Left Right airplane hums.
>>66242629
fuck off. Stop spewing redundant bullshut then. Take your (you) and fuck off.
>>66243510
Settle down, autist.
>>66243168
I do but I'm not gonna post it because
> bandcamp/soundcloud spam was cancer and it was always blatant that 95% of the people who spammed their crap here didn't even listen to noise or, to sound like a cunt, "get it" or get that there is indeed a difference between good noise and bad noise
Are you guys nihilists?
>>66243587
you're finally learning
>>66243630
damn straight we're fuckin nihilists
>>66243587
If you post it I'll listen and give my honest opinion on it.
>>66243630
No, the only problem with these threads is that they got overtaken by regular /mu/. People who come to the general demanding charts be made so they can "get into" it, and get jealous and shit on people with bc and sc.
>>66237501
whats with this album art? why do so many noise artists have an album with it?
anyone wanna buy my tape version of nato uniformen? mint condish
>>66243207
This has some good moments but overall it's not dynamic enough. It's not as bad as >>66243294 is making it out to be though.
>>66243698
That's not true at all. As much of a persecution complex as some of the people in /noise/ have, 99% of /mu/ doesn't give a shit about these threads one way or the other.
The laziness and ignorance of the core posterbase of /noise/ was always its biggest problem.
What do you think, that this thread is full of true patricians who just keep getting dragged down by all the trolls and plebs? Get real dude.
When the "trolls and plebs" don't post in these threads they just end up dying after going through the standard cycle: people posting a handful of the most entry level albums and saying that they like them, a few Bandcamp or Soundcloud links, and maybe one outsider asking how to get into noise or why people like it.
This general was a mess ever since it started.
>>66243706
It's the trademark of the label Pure
>>66243880
There's nothing wrong with the standard cycle, or the threads getting slow. It's not like noise forums are fast. It really is being pulled down by plebs, just listen to noise for a few more years. See how your neighbors react the first time you get loud speakers.
>>66243482
Have you considered expanding on this or putting (not to sound like a dick) more effort into it?
>>66243934
Here:
https://www.discogs.com/label/13048-Pure-4
>>66243963
To elaborate, the more sound layers you put into it and the larger your palette of sounds, the more interesting the end product is
>>66243955
>just listen to noise for a few more years. See how your neighbors react the first time you get loud speakers.
I've been listening for ages before this board even knew about Merzbow though. Drop the "pfft, you dumb kids" act, you goofy fucker.
>>66244018
>the more sound layers you put into it and the larger your palette of sounds, the more interesting the end product is
not even remotely true
you can achieve a lot more with making the most out of a compact setup, some smart editing an a solid feeling for the sounds and the way they interact than you can by just throwing shit at the wall with no sense or clue
having a million layers of nothing in particular going nowhere in particular still doesn't amount to much
>>66243963
Not dicky.
Im aware it was low effort.
It was for a final project and most of my effort went into programming the UI.
there's some tracks at the end of this that sound like early 20th century recordings of hillbillies inventing grindcore. it's great.
I would like to find more like that. could yall help me out?
i'm also passively looking for stuff like the early modest mouse cassettes- that is, stuff that's unintentionally noise, and is because of equipment/budgetary reasons
>>66244253
>i'm also passively looking for stuff like the early modest mouse cassettes- that is, stuff that's unintentionally noise, and is because of equipment/budgetary reasons
are you for real
i guess fucking sebadoh and guided by voices are noise by your standards?
>>66244253
>this whole post
Just leave.
is this bro noise?
what is bro noise?
>>66244097
I disagree, in a sense. I didn't say that was the only way to make it more interesting, it is just one way. What you're suggesting is another very viable way to enhance your work. Of course "nothing going nowhere" is no good, but I don't think I said to do that. I'm just saying a diversity of sounds is appealing. Naturally the sounds should be handled properly
>>66244458
clearly you dont like nihilnoise.
>>66244458
Then again I guess that's sort of subjective. I guess I should say that I specifically get a lot out of the incorporation of a diversity of sounds
>>66244481
Why do you say that?
>>66244307
I haven't heard those
have you heard modest mouse's uncle bunny faces? it's nearly as gritty as lightning bolt's self titled (of course, not as heavy).
I'm still getting in to noise, I get alienated if there isn't some semblance of structure.
this general was super helpful when I was trying to find more like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMFyxgpGK8
so I figured i'd return.
>>66243765
Flip it on discogs for $100
>>66244555
This general is nowhere near what it once was. Leave while you can.
>used to regularly post in and make /noise/ threads at one point, was also one of the only people making those threads
>honestly think I was one of the better posters, for what little that is worth
>eventually got bored with what then appeared to be a slip in the thread quality and stopped making them or posting in them
>a while after that also got bored with /mu/ and left
>randomly decide to check out /mu/ today for the first time in months
>"oh hey, a /noise/ thread, I wonder what's going on with them"
>see this
Jesus Christ. If I knew that this is what it would have come to I would have just let /noise/ die back then.
>>66244555
neither lightning bolt nor insect warfare have anything to do with noise music
>>66244622
apparently. I guess all the nice anons left.
>>66244019
It has nothing to do with elitism......you'll see if you keep listening to noise for real and not bullshitting like everyone else.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>66244739
You're a retard, mate.
>>66244789
No, I'm being dead serious. Noise is rough man, the first noise concert was a riot. Just stop with this /mu/ replying instantly shit.
>>66243400
...really couldn't figure out you should add .co.nz?
Here, "fixed" link https://mega.nz/#F!ZMtRyZYS!UCn0Y0dmJtfxK7dJXjjB_Q
>For twenty-five centuries, Western knowledge has tried to look upon the world.
It has failed to understand that the world is not for the beholding. It is for hear-
ing. It is not legible, but audible.
what did he mean by this?
>>66245137
This has nothing to do with noise you retard. Go find something to do with your life, or just hang yourself.
>>66243677
My point was that there would likely be a bias against it regardless of whether or not it's objectively good or I 'get it'.
>>66243630
No. Nihilism is boring.
I wish napalm death had delved into noisecore more. Songs like "you suffer" were so crucial to the development of works like pic related
this is better than any big black album
>>66245447
Vomir is a nihilist from what I gather, and I like vomir. But I find the philosophy a bit dull
1/3rd done a noise track, will post results either in this thread or in the next one.
>>66245168
kill yourself pleb
It is the first sentence of the introductory chapter of this:
https://www.amazon.com/Noise-Political-Economy-History-Literature/dp/0816612870
>>66245516
Vomir is a bad joke.
He's a living parody of what people who hate noise music think of when they think of noise: a moronic, one-dimensional racket mixed in with banal misanthropic posturing and a high-schooler's idea of a "provocative and extreme" image.
HNW is the most creatively bankrupt thing to ever happen to noise.
>>66245631
No.
dynamic HNW is good and creative.
>>66245622
The more I read about noise the more I encounter language that is not immediately sonically related. I think that throwing nonauditory language out there throws people off. Noise goes way beyond just sound, and people should realize that
>>66236910
is that your room doc brown?
>>66245472
try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-WVIpoDuxU
>>66245677
he qualifies it well as well.
music really is typically a distorted reflection of society.
These connections are there. Music doesnt exist in a void. There is so much context surrounding it.
>>66245755
>>66245699
>>66245677
>>66245655
>>66245622
>>66245599
Checked.
/noise/ has been blessed by kek.
A good omen, Im sure.
>>66245655
Dynamic hnw is an oxymoron, however I won't deny that hnw is far from a bad thing. I think what you're looking for is "texturally varied hnw" which is certainly a thing.
>>66245631
Anyway this is pretty inaccurate. Hnw is awesome. Vomir makes no claims to be a musician or even an artist, so people have no real right to get mad about/at him
>>66244668
/noise/ driving out and turning bitter the people who genuinely try to contribute and improve it seems to be a bit of a running motif of the thread
the only person's who has stuck it out for the distance is xernon from what ive noticed and even he seems to be hanging on by a thread at this point
>>66245655
>dynamic HNW
No such thing. Being dynamic goes directly against the point of HNW.
>>66245516
It is conceptually interesting, though I wouldn't want to live or present as a nihilist. I would use the noisy wall as form of expression though.
Also, Vomir's output is not nihilistic, it is more about non-participation. According to his manifesto, the function of HNW is to be the last bastion of free behaviour in contemporary life, through it’s refusal of distinct audible changes. It provides no inherent direction or value; an absolute phenomenologic reduction.
The cherry point, the rita are some good HNW starters, they have a ton of stuff on soulseek.
>>66245755
I'm the guy reading >>66241990
I have a pdf if you're interested. Anyway yeah the parallels between noise music and modern art at large are very pronounced. Noise is in part a product of decades of struggle with institutional and cultural perception of music, so a lot needs to be understood about that sort of background before noise can be dismissed or even generalized
>>66237356
its out
>>66245869
I feel like the language of "no inherent direction or value" comes across as a bit nihilistic in a way but I get what you're saying. I feel like vomir has a pretty unique standpoint on the genre
>>66245869
I feel like a philosophy of nihilism can underly a practice of non-participation
HNW is a literal meme genre
its whole point is that it's 'so extreme, d00d' garbage for spergy metalheads who can't get off to gorgoroth or burzum or whatever anymore
it's actually pretty weird how many boneheaded retards there are whose only contact with noise is through HNW, the thing has my little pony/sonic the hedgehog-tier autist magnetism properties
dudes couldn't tell the difference between pain jerk and prurient but that doesn't stop them from downloading every single bandcamp album with an HNW tag on it
>>66245897
I love the Rita. One of the first hnw acts I listened to and still a favorite
>>66246071
Hnw is not inherently a meme, but it does get sadly memed on a lot. It's not about being extreme, it's about being monolithic FYI
>>66246071
Man look at the buzzwords
>>66245808
Yeah, I guess we have different definitions of "dynamic" when it comes to noise
>>66246071
Na its just harsh noise without much piercing feedback, just focus on harsh walls
>>66245843
Also the aggression against newbies is rough. This thread should have some function as a tool for those hoping to get into the genre, and the hostility against inexperience is counterproductive
>>66246221
yeah HNW is actually pretty ambient desu
After about 30 minutes of a good wall you can really feel the "monolithic" pressure laying into you.
Every /noise/ thread is worse than the last.
Let it die already, for fuck's sake.
>>66245860
Im talking about things that aren't Vomir's unchanging walls. Even the rita has some shifting nonstatic timbres
>>66246281
Yeah I just think like most of the time when people make HNW album or splits they're like all or nothing. Dynamic and cut up noise is mixed in with other stuff a lot.
>>66246220
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Harsh+Noise+Wall/
>inb4 rym lmao
This definition is agreed upon at least by the users of the website and it explicitly states that to be hnw it must lack dynamics. Dynamics refers to a change throughout the track, from beginning to end. It rises and falls and shifts and develops. Hnw inherently starts and ends and the same place, sonically and energetically, and stays within that realm throughout the duration of the track.
guys I'm really tired
>>66246319
Nonstatic timbres are different from dynamics. That's why it's not considered drone, which would be a truly static timbre
>>66246354
ok, so? We have different definitions of dynamics, quit being semantic with me.
see>>66246319
>>66246290
>Every /noise/ thread is worse than the last.
it really is hahaha
i remember thinking there was no way it could get any worse back in january/february of this year but boy, i've sure got egg on my face now
when /noise/ hits rock bottom, it gets a shovel
>>66246381
then what should you call those nonstatic components that exist in the Rita's work, but are nonexistant in Vomir's?
Im genuinely curious.
>>66246392
Well I think language is important but I digress. But I totally agree that I like hnw that has that quality. I try to incorporate that quality in my own hnw, and having compelling source material helps with that
>>66246290
>>66246424
I'm almost nostalgic for the times when mods used to delete /noise/ for shits and giggles.
>>66246435
Sonic variance. That term has no connotations regarding the overall movement of the entire track
>>66246515
hm. I see.
thanks.
>>66246490
>>66246424
Why are you here? What are you even getting out of expressing these boring opinions? "Oh man this shitty thing sure is shitty" boy such insight
>>66246561
dey want dem fresh (you)s
>>66246534
Alternatively I've heard vomir described as very "purist hnw" so if you want you can look it as a spectrum of varying degrees of purity (relating to the strictness of the adherence to the genre's definition)
>>66246561
calm down, tiger
>>66246608
I'm not trying to be uncalm or anything but I just don't get their point
the vocal themes of power electronics are __________
>>66246649
You don't know the true darkness, true darkness comes from pain, the pain of not being a normie and wanting to kill them on sight.
>>66246670
It depends on the artist...herukrat and ramleh discuss different things
>>66246670
remember when blackwatch played in san antonio haha
>>66246691
O-okay anon...
>>66246691
wew>>66246716
nope, PE is not my cup of noise t b h
>>66246766
me neither. death industrial especially seems to do little for me
>>66246766
Very unique PE acts like the aforementioned herukrat are enjoyable for me
>>66245699
nah it's the new Kevin Drumm
i never visit these threads
what's the appeal of this genre? genuinely curious
>>66247369
I like noise, it has a large variety. There is a lot of new age-y type stuff and ambient mixed in with it along with all other types of stuff.
>>66247369
Above all else it sounds awesome
Just finished reading noise in and as music. That's the fastest I've read a book in ages. Recommended
Family annihilator is so good, still
>>66247527
what's some recommended new agey noise?
>>66248408
Well people will yell at me for these but yellow swans - going places and summer in my veins by I am a lake of burning orchids may be up your alley. They have ambient qualities and are often cited as ways for fans to get into the genre of noise. I'm not sure if they're exactly new-agey but they are soothing and serene so they might be worth a shot. Again I'll say these are very popular albums so no one freak out okay
>>66248408
Sofia Reta, Jason Crumer, Cremation Lily
>>66248468
I meant "ways for non-fans"
>>66248470
That reminds me, posh isolation is a good label to look at for >>66248408
I think
>>66243168
I make power electronics and occasionally noise
https://soundcloud.com/ourexitbag/tricky-plexus-what-was-pain
>>66248583
Can you describe it a bit more?
>>66248706
post synth punk IDM ethereal noise industrial textural power electronics
>>66248762
Those are just genre tags, I meant like tell me in a couple sentences what your music is like
>>66248803
Oh I mostly assumed you were being sarcastic.
I think there's a margin of something really beautiful and expansive about undefined textures and noise.
So I suppose I make a romanticized power electronics that more and more is veering into intricate electronics juxtaposed with acoustic instrumentation. I agonize over my lyrical content maybe even more than I do the sound design. The delivery of which is probably best described as extreme.
>>66248955
Oh that sounds pretty cool! I'll check it out
>>66248408
Not noise, though Ray Phaze Tropic is a pretty great act I've been listening to a bit recently. Stuff from Rotifer Cassettes is usually worth a listen
>>66248583
So I listened to that track and was pleasantly surprised, honestly. There was a compelling diversity of sounds and a palpable emotional expressivity. Visually very nice as well, I like it
i stuck my dick inside some hardware
>>66249185
Thanks, I'm about a third of the way through my first full release as Ornate Exit. I think what I have so far unreleased is actually my strongest material.
https://clyp.it/mfzyqfc0
>>66249270
I liked it! Again, very emotive, and very unique and distinct in sound. I'm interested in hearing this album. I found your bandcamp. Do you recommend any specific releases, including those from any of your previous aliases?
>>66245902
I'm interested. I really want to read it.
>>66249559
https://mega.nz/#F!ZMtRyZYS!UCn0Y0dmJtfxK7dJXjjB_Q
that has several different readings in it
>>66249712
>that macro interview
That one is good. Thanks, anon.
>>66249487
Glad you liked it. For the most part I don't think my previous releases stand up to my newer material musically except for maybe figments to bones which I have yet to release in full, I expect that to be up within the month. If you have a facebook I announce most releases on my page.
>>66247369
Noise is probably less than half of what gets discussed in these threads
>>66248583
Bumping this with our collaboration... This dude is immensely talented.
https://soundcloud.com/mephisto_waltz/the-visitation-feat-ornate-exit
>>66240437
>did you had time to get those First Two Records of Crumer
I forgot to, tbqh, but I can I suppose, better than half the shit happening in here. I'll snatch it tonight and have it up in the morning if the thread's alive. Next one if it's dead.
>>66245843
I'm not turning bitter yet, it's all the same shit. It's hit BRR levels of repetitiveness yet people reply.
>noisefags
>>66236839
I did this
https://soundcloud.com/utopianinchswag420/seize-town
>>66254015
>tfw was gonna go see Puce Mary but she cancelled the gig last minute
Since all the cool kids are shilling their stuff,,,
https://soundcloud.com/tungstencobalt
do you guys know noise tracks that sound like these two ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFukBEe-tz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjPpoL9U7l8
i'm looking for tracks with that "motor" sound
I saw Sissy Spacek in the back room of a taco shop once. It was either the best or worst show I have ever seen, I don't know which.
>>66236839
can anybody rec me some noise thats made with exclusively or almost exclusively guitars?
also, has anyone ever heard this? its one of my favorites so I thought I'd share.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piQHOJlW_Xc
>>66254930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piQHOJlW_Xc
>>66254971
If we're counting noisecore then I definitely recommend exploring that genre. The s/t from The Locust is a classic
>>66254971
kiran arora is good
>>66254971
the hototogisu
>>66255649
you fucking idiot
>>66254971
culver
>>66255649
>not only does he recommend the guy something completely unrelated to what he asked for, he also recommends him one of the most entry-level bands in that other thing
>most likely because entry-level shit is all he knows
lmao
>>66255649
Lel.
>>66255668
>>66255754
B-but haven't you heard? It's regular /mu/ that's making /noise/ so shitty!
>>66254076
whoa
>>66254076
Brandon confirmed for best /noise/ producer.
>>66255797
>B-but haven't you heard? It's regular /mu/ that's making /noise/ so shitty!
kek
probably the only way that tard up there can even tell when "noise" is made with guitars is when it's actually just noisy rock music
OP's picture is noisecore, and entry level as it may be I still enjoy it. I've known about them for several years so it's not as if that was some recent discovery. This thread is plagued by a very narrow perception of what constitutes noise. The cacophony produced by noisecore and grindcore artists is sonically highly reminiscent and ideologically comparable to what you perceive as noise i.e. probably only harsh noise. In the book on noise I just finished reading, one chapter was on vocal noises and drew specific attention to the grindcore scene. Now looking back I can understand that that's probably not what that guy was looking for, but still you all need to understand that the practice of noise making extends beyond static
>>66255905
Yeah I think my favorite all time noise album is this one:
https://cheapfest.bandcamp.com/album/cheap-fest-iv
You understand that part of where Merzbow gained early inspiration was from the portions of rock concerts where the musicians would destroy their instruments and from all the clatter and feedback that arose from it right? Noise has both academic and non-academic origins in general, the academic portion being from experimental classical composers and the non-academic being from rock and punk music. I mean I get where you're coming from but I think you are looking at this from a fairly narrow perspective
>>66255974
Nothing like a contact mic going through a distortion pedal, but there still needs to be something else going on.
>>66255905
>OP's picture is noisecore
no, it is harsh noise performed in part with drums and a bass guitar. big difference.
sissy spacek's actual noisecore material has very loose ties to the sound of the s/t album, which largely pays tribute to the 90s americanoise and amatuer trape trading scene in sound and spirit.
this is sissy spacek in noisecore mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TXWp6IvHps
>This thread is plagued by a very narrow perception of what constitutes noise.
noise actually has to be noise in order to be considered noise. wow, what bullshit.
>The cacophony produced by noisecore and grindcore artists is sonically highly reminiscent and ideologically comparable to what you perceive as noise i.e. probably only harsh noise.
the same could be said of certain strands of black metal. that does not make those strands of black metal relevant in a discussion pertaining to noise music.
also, i don't think anyone who knows anything about noise thinks that it begins and ends with harsh noise. however, they hopefully do realize that the fucking locust is not noise music.
also, grindcore has nothing whatsoever to do with noise. if there's room for arguments about noise's relation with certain sorts of particularly noxious and antimusical noisecore, grindcore itself is both structurally and production-wise as distant to noise as hardcore punk and death metal are.
>In the book on noise I just finished reading, one chapter was on vocal noises and drew specific attention to the grindcore scene.
it's curious that you can emptily regurgitate shit you read somewhere with such ease but have so much trouble actually using your ears and brain.
>but still you all need to understand that the practice of noise making extends beyond static
wow, after all this time my eyes have finally been opened. thank you!
>>66254971
>can anybody rec me some noise thats made with exclusively or almost exclusively guitars?
can't believe no one has suggested Solmania yet
oh wait yes i can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KYucNfis_s
>>66255974
i am aware of all these things. as much as i'm sure you enjoy attempting to wow everyone with your knowledge by stating them, they don't have much relevance to what is being talked about here.
wow, you read a book on noise music. fucking amazing.
>>66256078
Do you even know what noise is
>>66256133
It's not a matter of wowing anyone so much as citing the source of my information
