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>http://www.justinguitar.com/
Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php
String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/
Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>http://youtu.be/umY5NBKg5AA?list=PLcm7Ag6Q-OkZAmlY6dAhS2ZL9TUMeRZdI [Embed] [Embed]
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar
Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav
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>Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg
Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
previous thread
>>66057757
>>66077881
For the guy interested in Sunn O))) tones, getting baritone strings is what you want. I just recorded this clip, it's a jazzmaster with baritone strings. So you don't even need special pickups or anything.
https://clyp.it/hm1n4u0h
A bass you can be proud of
>>66078402
Is that yours? Seems like the most diverse pickup setup, do want
>>66078402
>those holes
>>66078463
They're exposed weight relief after a contour was added to it.
>>66078443
Nah, notorious on talkbass, pulled the pic from there.
has anyone tried Riffstation? what's your thoughts on it?
i'm doing the trial version, and so far i like it.
i just wish i could find a torrent that worked, because fuck paying for software.
just bought a used guitar
guess whats in the box
>>66078486
he should have routed below the pickguard to get some more weight relief. Unless he did. Kinda like these smuggler telecasters
>>66078522
Jazzmaster
>>66077533
>>66077698
Sunn O))) is I'm Drop Ab. 13-68 or 13-70 would work on an SG.
>>66078176
>Drone
I'm sad that I'll probably sleep through the rest of this thread.
https://clyp.it/22xdwgux
>>66078522
vintage weirdness
Anyone have experience with those classic player jazzmasters? None of the shops in my area have them and I'm a "try before I buy" person. I've also heard the MIJ ones can be found on eBay for maybe a few hundred bucks more
Anyone got an experiences?
>>66078555
>https://clyp.it/hm1n4u0h
sick are you using any reverb or delay? I love the overtones towards the middle, almost sounds like a pad effect.
>>66078522
a hot mech girlfriend! did you get asuka or rei?
I also bought a used guitar. guess when it gets here
>>66078526
He didn't do any weight relief, he just discovered the weight relief accidentally when he added the contour and tried to make it look neat.
>>66078611
That's one right here>>66078223
I honestly love it, the build quality is perfect. Great wood, hardware etc.. The main difference is the slightly closer trem for a better break angle and the p90 style pickups, which I personally like for a warmer sound.
They're the best deals in used Jazzmasters I think. If you absolutely must have vintage correct tone and specs the classic 60s Jazzmaster is the way to go. I would skip the MIJs they're overpriced for what they are. I've sold every MIJ offset I've had over the years.
>>66078613
I'm heading to bed but from memory I'm running a four layer multi delay into two reverbs. It's a stereo sound. The left reverb is different to the right and there's a slow pan to make it feel spacious. With the delay and pan off, and some filtering it sounds like this.
https://clyp.it/wdez1mjw
If you ask again (might be a new thread) in about 8-12 hours I'll be happy to explain any of it in depth if you like.
Or you can drop a message here.
https://discord.gg/cn9bE
>>66078522
Ibanez
>>66078535
its a fender but not a jazzmaster
>>66078609
nope not really, the color/neck combo might be is somewhat associated with a musician that you'd also associate with vintage
>>66078845
don't really like ibanez
What can I do to add more diversity to my playing? What I mean is, I learned some rock songs and riffs but most of them its playing 3 or 4 chords on repeat. I learned the pentatonic scale to do solos but yeah I guess I could do that once in a while. Maybe add some pedals? Learn to sing? What are your suggestions?
>>66078949
black/maple strat
>>66078973
i was thinbking more hendrix than clapton but i let it count. its a beauty isn't it?
>>66078949
a very boring stratocaster
>>66079018
buy a tort pickguard and then we can talk
>>66079018
Which model is it? How much did it cost?
>>66079018
that was my second guess, sweet axe tho
>>66079018
>maple fretboard
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>>66079018
Just looks like a typical Mexican fender, not going to lie.
Why does /gg/ make less music than /a/
>>66079149
How do you like the cobain mustang?
I played one but only for 15 minutes.. I really liked it though. Thinking about getting one if I can find one.
>>66079072
its just a 2012 mexican standard. payed 350€ which would be a bit less than 400$.
>>66079149
well, it is a typical mexican standard. i still like the look of it.
>>66079195
Love, its my number one and has been for 4 years, haven't had a guitar that can compare and I have had 6 guitars since my Kurt Mustang which I sold that bunch, bought a Strat' because I used to love them but ended up trading it for the Mustang on the left which plays 90% as good.
>>66079272
Yeah, no doubt the white with a all maple neck is a classy combo.
>>66079195
>>66079333
Meant to say Love it*, derp.
>>66079208
I'd say that's a good deal.
Would you play a guitar like this?
>>66079492
I'd swap the pickguard first. Then yes.
>>66078510
Is this a plugin for guitar recording?
Just get the BIAS Desktop and Two Notes Torpedo Wall of Sound VSTs instead.
>>66079492
>strat with humbuckers
Fuck no.
I bought this guitar for one sixty moneys. I bet its previous owner opened the door to his closet several times to make sure it wasn't going to fall over before he went to bed. I can't wait to penetrate it with my 1/4" jack and abuse it like the 13 yo lesbian schoolgirl it is.
>>66079557
>>66079557
it's basically Ultimate Guitar Pro, except it analyzes any song you choose and shows you the chords used in that song.
supposedly pretty useful for transcribing and learning obscure songs that you can't find on UG.
Are PRS meme guitars?
>>66079492
Which one is this?
>>66079635
>implying pickups matter when you don't play outside your room
topkek
>>66079691
I like using it for figuring out songs. Depending on the recording, you can really isolate the guitar parts. I don't use the chord aspect at all... it's a bit dodgy. Bought during half price Christmas sale. Great software
>>66078402
>removing precious tonewood
>>66079728
Oh no, I got meme'd.
>>66079687
noice. put a lipstick in the neck the bitch can take it
>>66078949
gwenyth paltrow's head
Is this worth a shit?
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/msg/5639829368.html
>>66079492
that wilkinson trem is great, got it on one of my strats
>>66078964
Strum patterns and arpeggios, really dive into those boring chord progressions.
tele vs strat vs jazzmaster vs jaguar?
i'm leaning toward a tele, but afraid it can't do full/thick/grimey sounds like a jazz/jag or crunchy rock. i'm interested in surf rock/shoegaze as well which idk if it'll play very well, i like mac demarco ariel pink mbv pavement johnny marr andy summers steve miller fleetwood mac a wide variety
Is there any reason to get a Strat over a Telecaster?
Axe FX vs Kemper
>>66079915
Tele with a Humbucker in the neck. They're all good for what you want to play though, I just like the tele because of its simplicity. You have less shit that can go wrong, maintenance is super easy etc...
>>66079932
Noiseless pickup settings and a trem.
>>66079915
>>66079932
>>66079947
why do all of you fucking tools care so much about gear
all these discussions are fucking sterile
>>66079947
Axe FX
>>66079966
just a hobby like anything. More interesting than stamp collecting
>>66079966
Trying different gear is a cool hobby dude. Even if you're just a basic player
>>66079966
To piss you off
>>66079966
Sorry mummy couldn't afford nice toys for you for Christmas
>>66079749
>>66079691
>>66079557
>>66078510
i like putting on hardcore metal songs and then shifting the key the song is in until it sounds like an Alvin & the Chipmunks cover.
it never stops being funny.
>>66079635
I love the look of that Woolly Mammoth 7 but was it really with a gorillion dollars?
>>66080001
>>66080012
sure seems like an interesting hobby
>telecaster is better because it twangs
>no strat is better because it was used on X record
Every single time it's the same fucking arguments, which are ultimately pointless because anyone with enough time can make one sound like the other with enough time.
You know what's a better hobby ? Playing the thing and getting better at it.
Anyone else feel like the guitar is a dying instrument?
>>66080220
No, probably the most commonly played, decent guitar stores are a dying business
>>66080193
Let's argue about what hobbies are superior. I pick stamp collecting.
>>66080271
>tfw you're neighborhood pawn shop thinks their mim strats and crate combos are worth their weight in gold
>>66080284
>promoting degenerate stamp collecting
>on a balinese underwater circuit-bending board
>>66080193
>You know what's a better hobby ? Playing the thing and getting better at it.
>Implying you can't do both
I play professionally and have a huge collection of gear, although I do mostly just play my acoustics/archtops. It's nice having a wide range of sounds on hands when you need them.
Better than spending your money on drugs/food/whores.
>>66080400
>Better than spending your money on drugs/food/whores
Seriously, this. The amount some people spent on transient junk is ridiculous and they wonder why they don't have anything nice. I'd rather go hungry every now and then if it means that after a couple months I can buy that guitar I've always wanted.
not trying to be dick rider here, but i just got pic related and am interested in doing the pickup arrangement the mustang guy on here did with theirs (lipstick neck/single coil-sized humbucker bridge). which single coil-sized humbuckers are superior? i'm probably just going to do a gfs in the neck since lipsticks look like their all the same cheap crap on the inside.
When did guitars become so expensive?
http://www.themusiczoo.com/category/1590/Gibson-Custom-Shop-Guitars/
>>66080475
why would that make you a dick rider?
>>66080400
I'm not saying having gear is bad, but there's absolutely no point in arguing between two of the most popular things. Half of the thread's already pointless gear posting, we don't need more of it. And we don't need to keep arguing on this either, we're kinda shitting up the thread right now.
>>66080503
Gibson Custom Shop prices are ridiculous. I guess someone is buying them though.
>>66080475
You're right about the lipsticks. Hey, you should consider adding a single coil like pic related instead. It'd be a shame to lose the signature mustang tones.
>>66080516
just because it's oddly specific
>>66080589
what are those? i thought mustang pickups were essentially just strat pickups with a different cover.
>>66080608
I was referring to the bridge configuration, not the pickups themselves. Those are just regular pickups. If you add a single coil in series your can switch between humbucker and single coil.
>>66080524
this. no one cares about what guitar you're playing or what gear you use. it doesn't contribute to the threads and discussions. it's like going to /fit/ and have someone ask you what you bench, and all you can answer is, "oh, amn Olympic Hammer Strength steel bar with German ball bearings and lead infused plates."
it's completely missing the point.
im still trying to make this sound better but it's hard to do much at a low preamp gain. its still a low quality mess fuck. what am i doing wrong?
https://clyp.it/oehoxo21
>>66080355
Damn, those 2x12 crate combos weigh a lot, usa, euro or aus?
>>66080475
See Mustang on right, JB in the bridge is delicious for tones; >>66079149
>>66080355
The place by me has no clue what they have sometimes. A lot of the things they get are stolen and pawned by drug addicts. The addicts don't know either so they're just going to take the first offer. So i fig they think they're making a profit that's all they care about. Local police actually made them start a database of people that pawn shit and what because thefts and break ins have gotter so common
can custom guitars/partscasters be way better than say mim telecasters, for the price? what to look for in a partscaster/custom guitar?
>>66080041
>mommy
>toys
>Christmas
Dude. You probably suck at guitar. Post a track with you playing something. Try to avoid your "ambient" work.
>>66080644
how does that compare to a "real" humbucker? the guitar is still on its way and i've never really messed around with a switching configuration like it before.
>>66080701
usa. i think pawn stars/storage wars made everyone who sells secondhand shit in this country greedy. the worst is thrift stores that literally put copies of madden 02 behind lock and key.
>>66080475
I like the Dimarzio Super Distortion S. Pretty typical humbucker sounds if that's what you want.
>>66080778
I actually do suck, but I can still meme you to death ;)
>>66080772
Yes if you can do all of your finishing work. For about $500 you can build an amazing telecaster.
Fender American Hardware and Electronics . GFS XGP body and an All Parts neck. Easily as good as an MIA Fender if you can do a good setup.
>>66080834
>meme you to death
Sorry pal, I don't spend much time here anymore. Too busy playing guitar.
>>66080652
That actually sounds pretty cool
I bench a spruce-wood bar with DIY sandbag plates
>>66080926
>Sand
>not powdered iron that you mined from the mountains
WOW DYEDIYL
>>66079144
> mfw malmsteen, clapton, hendrix, eric johnson, that guy from iron maiden, rata blanca.
> mfw i took the bait...
> mfw no face
>>66080887
I've heard that femder hardware is overpriced for what you get. I don't recall the brands people were recommending for this stuff though. I have seen Wilkinson for 3-saddle bridges which I'm not a fan of are cheap and folks even put them on fenders.
>>66081041
No way, remember it's the standard for $1500 and up guitars. It's all high quality. If anything it's a bit underpriced. You can get an American tele bridge for around $35, pickups for around $40 each. Knobs and plate for around $20.
That's pretty cheap for quality hardware. Now boutique hardware is another story....
I've had bad luck with the lower end wilkinson stuff, typical cheap chromed stuff, even on their "solid steel" tremolo for strats and it's not much less either.
>>66081165
I have one of those $1500 Strats and it really isn't all that high quality. The neck and body are great nowadays but I still go for aftermarket bridges/trems. The electronics are good, but the Fender switches and CTS pots really aren't the end of the world... Schaller makes nicer switches in my opinion. Same goes for those oil-bath tuners Fender uses nowadays, I mean, it's pretty good but there's a lot better out there.
Definitely not underpriced, you're paying for a brand, they're still factory instruments -as good as they are- and there's a lot more out there.
>>66081439
You can definitely get better stuff out there but you're going to pay for it. For the money I don't think there's anything better than Fender, seriously it's only marginally more expensive than cheap Asian shit. If you want to splurge there's Callaham,Glendale, Don Mare, Jason Lollar etc all better but way more expensive.
What tremolos/bridges do you think are better than Fenders at the same price?
My mustang has a ground issue I believe. When both pickups are in the off position, it buzzes loudly, but then stops when touching a metal screw, string, the bridge plate, or control plate. I have no idea how to go about fixing this, but I want to do it myself to save money. I'm sure I seem uniformed because I am, so save me the criticism and help me fix my guitar plz
>go to GC to see how much they'd buy my Les Paul for
>wait a bit for the manager to check it out
>"We can buy it for $350"
>leave and go back home to renew my CL posting
I expected to be ripped off a bit but not by this much.
>>66081543
Gotoh and Wilkinson have great trems. I'm not sure what the Fender trem goes for nowadays but I got my VS100-N for 50 bucks from a guy. As far as Fender parts go, they've always been the expensive option when I order parts online. Take those plastic bobbins for example. Boston(brand) sells them for a buck for 3 while Fender charges you 5 bucks. Then there's stuff like the chrome pickup covers for the Fender basses. Last time I checked you pay a whopping fifty bucks for the ones with a Fender logo while the Boston one costs 15.
As for the trem, I don't think Fender's is all that great. I certainly didn't feel, hear or notice a difference between the USA trem and the one on my classic vibe.
>>66081652
Just sell it on reverb, best profits by far.
>>66081617
just open it, there will be a loose wire that goes from the control cavity to the bridge Solder it to the back of you volume knob.
>>66081706
If you don't mind, I'd like to ask some questions about that site. I've bought stuff there before but I've never sold anything there.
-Do I have to use PayPal?
-How do I estimate shipping costs for a guitar with a HSC, and where do you get a box?
Been playing for about 10 years.
My favorite guitar I ever had was an old Guild Archtop Electric X-170 Manhattan.
Fav Guitarist: Doug Martsch from Built To Spill, and Jimi Hendrix.
>>66079699
guitar is a meme in general
>>66081788
get a box from ULINE, shipping a guitar in a case is around $40 through ups, at least that's what I pay in California. you can get a ballpark number on their site but it's based on where it gets shipped to
any of these worth it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Jazz-Master-Bass-Guitar-Vintage-Guitar-Fender-Bass-NO-RESERVE-/282080386627?hash=item41ad4d1e43:g:MCQAAOSwepJXcC
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Partscaster-Strat-style-guitar-plays-great-locking-tuners-headstock-decal-etc-/291807605895?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-built-Telecaster-style-Guitar/131860990435?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D37254%26meid%3D17cbb07e576f49ac97e2a5bd27e5ee41%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D291803049842
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTSCASTER-STRAT-with-beautiful-finish-/131861902171?hash=item1eb394f35b:g:p3cAAOSwepJXYGGY
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Telecaster-Partscaster-with-Fender-Licenced-parts-/201613173894?hash=item2ef114e486:g:KNwAAOSwgY9XctBn
Anyone ever build a guitar?
My Jacksons tone knob doesn't work, so I opened it up to find out what's wrong and the 2a223k capacitor lead broke. A quick Google and I found bunches of 2a223J capacitors but few K. What's the difference between 2a223k and 2a223j? Are they Interchangeable? Are they needed? Could I just connect the wires and eliminate the capacitor?
>>66081924
fuck you dude do your own research
>>66081924
I didn't open any of those
>>66081938
You should be able to connect whatever remains of the lead and it should work. If there's not enough wire left to connect to, you don't need the same capacitor, just the same capacitor value. Your cap is probably .022 microfarads or .047 microfarads.
Anyway post a pic. If you want to eliminate the tone knob you cab disconnect it or just leave the cap off, either way it won't do anything.
rate my home studio setup:
yamaha dx7
fender telecaster, jazzmaster, jag, strat
f jazz bass
drum machine
chorus pedal, looper, surf rider iii, fuzz pedal. big muff, Xvive V8 Chorus Vibrato
ibanez acoustic
roland d50
MT8X Yamaha 8 Track
shure sm58
>>66082017
Rating this shit means nothing if you don't use it. And we all know you don't use it.
>>66081891
Ah, thanks for the help. I live in CA too. ULINE seems to only sell in bundles of 5, but I only plan on selling one guitar.
I'm gonna try using the local pickup option instead.
Whats the consensus on GFS Pickups? Looking to get a Humbucker like JB or a '59.
>>66081752
No wire seems loose in the control cavity.
Do I need to get under the bridge plate? Can I take it off without compromising my strings?
Haven't been in /gg/ in a week or so. Did that spamming faggot 12 year old finally fuck off?
>>66082033
b-but i do
>>66082059
Excellent pickups. It's very difficult to find better machine wound pickups assuming they have the specs you're looking for. Just make sure you know what you want. A lot of the cooler looking pickups can bait you into a niche sort of pickup you might not like.
>>66079149
I want that mustang with the red headstock
How much did you pay?
>>66082076
That black wire running over the plate should lead to some wires attached to the underside of the bridge or bridge pins routed through the body, the wire needs to be soldered to the bridge to earth it for less hum and interference
>>66082076
Take a picture of where the black wires lead. Take the pickguard off next. You are looking for a hole used as a tunnel from underneath the bridge to the rest of the circuit.
>>66082155
Traded it for this
can i get a good surf rock sound out of a tele? or a grimy hard rock/shoegaze/grunge sound?
>>66082213
Or rather this for the Mustang.
>>66082155
red mustangs are hideous
The guitars I've managed to steal from friends over the years, mostly ok
>>66082213
You ripped that guy off
That mustang is absolutely gorgeous
I'd divorce my wife for it
>>66082238
what? no way, they more understated than a colourful mustang, but nothing wrong with a classic fiesta red or candy apple red.
>>66082269
speak english
I know that you people dislike yousician but is there a better way for a beginner to figure out how to practice?
>>66082259
Hahaha, its got a few dents and chips in the paint, but its mojo and plays just as well as my other Mustang which is what made me say yes to the trade, don't get me wrong the Strat' was a lovely a guitar but the Mustang was better for me.
>>66082306
They're far more understated*
better?
>>66082320
video lessons
>>66082205
I'm assuming the one in question is the single one, not paired with the white one. Does that lead under the bridge plate or under the pick guard?
>>66082139
Alright thanks!
>>66082375
Do you mean real ones or that stuff on YouTube?
Anyone have one of these or used one before? Does it work as well as it's supposed to?
>>66081652
How much is it worth/did you expect to get?
Im thinking of selling a 212 and a drumset to gc but I dont want to get too fucked over
>>66082396
Yeah, that's the one. Just so we might be able to save you from needing to take your bridge off, do you have a multimeter? If not, do you have some spare wire?
>>66081652
>take nice pics of guitar (borrow nice camera if you don't have one)
>put up for sale on reverb and/or maybe ebay
The pictures are important. Take some with natural light coming from the window in the morning, that always looks good.
>>66081820
Nice Strat. Looks a lot like my Highway One.
>>66079144
Maple is the true master race
Rosewood pleb
>>66082337
>its mojo
>>66082852
mojo non-believers fuck off
this is a christian board
>>66082587
>Im thinking of selling a 212 and a drumset to gc but I dont want to get too fucked over
you'll get fucked over pretty hard. i mean they buy it to resell it themselves so they gotta make alteast like 50% profit or something. just put that shit on ebay or craigslist or something.
>>66081652
Never sell your valuable shit to a store that just wants to turn around and re-sell it for a profit. They'll always rip you off. You should be able to get a much better offer on craigslist, ebay, reverb, etc.
>>66082694
No multimeter. This is all I have to work with on hand
>>66082433
That one looks pretty awesome.
>>66081706
Is it just me or is stuff on Reverb always overpriced? I've never bought anything from there because I've always been able to find better deals on craigslist or ebay.
>>66082852
Mojo in the senese of its a 21 year old guitar thats been gigged, its going to have its war wounds.
>>66082807
Thanks, I have had for quite awhile. The most natural feeling guitar I think.
>>66082991
Alright, here's how you can test a connection with that. Get two lengths of wire, and strip one end of each normally, and the other end about a inch. wrap the long end of one of the wires around the sleeve of an instrument cable, the other long end around the tip. Turn your amp volume all the way down and plug the other end of the cable together. Touch the short ends of the wires together to make sure it's working. Be careful not to touch any bare wire to avoid false positives. Now, touch one wire to the potentiometer, and the other to the bridge. If there's no loud buzz, your wire is loose, and you need to take off the bridge and make sure it's secure. If it does buzz loudly, then something else is wrong.
Make sure you turn your amp all the way down when you do this to avoid damaging your speaker.
>>66083151
plug the other end in*
i dunno what happened there.
Are there any Ted Greene tier Bass books out there for learning bass?
My little brother started teaching himself bass and works really hard, actually practices scales and reads about music theory on his own time.
I want to buy him a book to start working through to step up his play that what help with both technique and application. He's transcribing modern baseball new school punk songs on his own, but I showed him vulfpeck and he says he wants to learn how to play bass like that, because if he could, all the punk songs in the world would be easy. Really want to help him out, his attitude is great for learning. I'm a guitar and woodwind player, not a great bassist. Thanks guys
>>66082503
It's trash.
>>66083306
Your brother has better taste than you
best guitar to get any sound out of? les paul? only genre i don't play is metal/heavy distorted shit, want a great clean sound and also a grimy low sound if needed, surfy, shugazi, type shit and also crunchy art rock/punk/country etc.
>>66083151
I'm not too confident in my ability to do what you just described correctly, so I think I might just take the bridge plate off anyway
>>66083461
Probably does, he's a good dude and we're both going to Modern Baseball in sept. Taking him to TTNG too.
>>66083325
Care to elaborate?
The demos I've watched on youtube make it clear it's not perfect, but it still seems like a fun pedal for a bedroom guitarist.
>>66083462
You probably are gonna want more than one pickup type. HSH can do alright, HSP90 is probably best, I've got SHP90 because I like the tele bridge.
Anyway really you don't need more than one pickup in the bridge to get anything you want.
If you wanna be really cool a p-rail in the bridge can get most of what you want.
Oh yeah, I guess a single coil or p90 in the neck is better for some blooze stuff.
>>66083493
Well, you're gonna need to test that your fix worked at some point anyway, so you should go buy a multimeter. They cost like $5.
>>66082252
Hey wanna be friends? Promis I won't steal your guitars :^)
>>66083536
It honestly sounds like it's firing off samples from Guitar Pro or Songsterr. I think you'd be better off playing with a metronome and just having the band in your head.
>>66083551
i really like telecasters but idk if they can play shoegaze/surf rock/crunchy grunge stuff
but they nail the johnny marr/andy summers type sound actually and a lot of blues/country which i love. is the tele great for 70s soft rock?
>>66081788
-Yeah, most people will pay with Paypal.
-Fedex has been the cheapest for me. From Coast to Coast it's about $60 max. around $40 if it's closer .
-You can get free shipping Boxes from Guitar Center. You just have to call ahead and tell them to save you one.
>>66083054
It is, but people buy it. About to list a rare strap for $200 and it will almost definitely sell.
Are these worth $30? Anyone here have em? How are they?
![Products2481-1200x1200-311217[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/82uymkb.jpg "Products2481-1200x1200-311217[1]")
>>66078176
If I need to replace a 3 prong, 120v, IEC power cable that's supposed to supply an amp or isolated power supply with juice, does the wire gauge matter? Will my choice affect any noise getting into my signal?
>>66083671
Fuck me, $200 for a strap?
>>66083692
yeah, i have one - i think it's pretty average
works best when used lightly
>>66083671
>>66083054
I sold a Boss HM2 on reverb for 130(roughly 40-60$ over what you can score one for) and It was the lowest priced one that was MiJ from the 80s with box.
People will pay more for the slight insignificant things.
>>66083618
I honestly don't think they are great for surf. Grunge can be accomplished very well in the middle position. 70s soft rock...meh. Another one to throw in the middle position and get by on.
The main thing I want pointing out was that more pickups=more options. Most teles might not be the perfect guitar for everything, like post-punk or alt leads which really like a humbucker in the bridge, but mine can do those a bit better with a "strat" position built in.
Also, 95% of guitars can't do Queen's lead tones very well. You need a series wired option for a lot of those songs.
You just need a hundred goddamn switches and pickups of you want something close to a guitar that can do everything. And still, the prevalence of the bridge position makes this tough. Though a bridge p-rail will get you pretty close, I don't think it's great for country.
>>66083819
Oh, but a strap has some kind of use at least
https://reverb.com/fr/item/2452883-fender-amp-hang-tag-1965
>>66083819
dadrockers like to cosplay too.
Any experiences with the Yamaha Pacifica 112V? Looking to upgrade from my cheap 100 dollar guitar.
>>66083054
Depends.
I got my waifu guitar there in mint condition at the best price I had seen until that date.
You have to be lucky. Sometimes sellers are willing to price lower in Reverb since the fees are much more manageable.
By the way my /gg/ bros, any place with dank americlap day sales or something worthwhile?
>>66083859
lesbian schoolgirl/10
What's the difference between an expensive power supply and a cheap one? I bought this isolated psu for $30 but I've seen some that look exactly the same but for $100+.
>tfw you enter this thread and all you see is electric noisemakers
why
>>66083851
>10 bucks shipping for a piece of cardboard
>>66084055
I think it's all about the quality of materials, number of output jacks, kind of output jacks (typical BOSS pedals take 9v at 100 mA, but a lot of fancier digital pedals like the Strymon Big Sky or whatever might need 9v at 300 mA, for example; some pedals take 12v or even 18v), brand name, and "isolated" can mean several different things, I believe. I'm no expert but some pedals say they're isolated, but they still daisy-chain output jacks, other pedals mean each output jack is isolated from each other (which I think offers less opportunity for noise or whatever). Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about any of this. I'm totally not an electrical engineer.
hello friends,
I am embarrassed to admit that I cannot make of the amplification? I plugged it into the instrument but I do not understand what the difference is between a "cabinet" and "amplifier," and how this relates to the Reaper interface. I am a simple boy making only bleep in Fruity Loops.torrent. When I use Fruity Loops.torrent sound comes out ok, but internet told me use Reaper, they say, and drag amplifier and stack into Le Pou 2, But I not understand. Sometimes bars happen but not sound.
Someone please explain when 1969 what plug guitar into to make noise come out?
In return I share 500 kick drum samples organized by key!!!
>>66083859
i think its wasted money.
its still not a great guitar a professional musician would use so you will eventually get a better one anyways and at that point the yamaha won't have a lot of resell value. keep your shitty strat until you can afford a good guitar, maybe a used one. you should be able to get a used mim strat for like 400 and if you like the hss setup for some reason those sell for even less. if you can't afford that but still want something new right now invest into good pickups. you don't need to change all 3 at once, you can just get a good one for the bridge or something. it will make a big difference in sound and you can keep it. it has resell value and you can use it in your other guitars in the future because its a quality item.
>>66080174
I didn't pay a gorillion dollars for it. I sort of paid nothing. It is the best fuzz I've ever played, though.
If I was moderately rich or some hardcore collector already filled with rare and expensive pedals, yeah, I'd say it's more than worth it.
For most your regular players, especially the poor students still living with their parents of /gg/, no, not really.
People just need to understand really (and this is a very basic real world concept that applies to pretty much any industry where are there are entry and high-end product level distinctions) that the relation cost-to-benefit in gear isn't a linear one. It's like pic related, the more you pay the less you get from it. It's up to each particular individual to decide at which point it stops being beneficial for himself and that's why some people argue over and over about the same bullshit regarding price and value.
>>66083306
Hal Leonard's books are great.
>>66084488
also if someone wants to explain or send me a link which explains how an audio signal works, why does each pickup only have 1 wire, how does the magic box move the magnets in the speaker coil and how many wires does it take, why does cool popping noises happen when I drop the TRS cable, so I can know what the fuck I'm doing
I was gonna type a story about this one time I stole some kid's guitar strap but it sucks (the story sucks too)
>>66084488
Your guitar plugs into the pream section of an amplifier, where EQ and shit happens, then it goes to the power amp section where power amps happen, then it goes to a speaker cabinet where it speaks out of the cabinet.
>>66084560
Nice values and labels on that graph
>>66084655
There is no universal graph that can be used to disclose the specific relation of values and tangible benefits to every product in the world. Maybe not even for a single specific product model.
If you can't understand what the graph means then the average /gg/ user is even dumber than I thought.
>>66084695
Nice mansplaining your inadequacies. Why don't you join the 21st century? It's 2016.
>>66084648
ok so preamp changes the analog (?) signal slightly, it's like the pots on the guitar except more complex
then it goes to the part of the amplifier that makes the signal have more current or something? so it can drive the speaker wire
and the cabinet is a big speaker? so what's a head, and how come they don't just combine the speaker and the amp?
>>66084695
Graphs are visual representation of data.
A graph without data is null and means nothing.
If you can't understand that, then the average /gg/ user is even dumber than I thought.
>>66084738
Oh my, I really hope that's some really bad attempt at trolling. lol.
>>66084738
nah brah, you just gotta understand that it's a sigmoidal graph in which the slope is always decreasing, ie f'(x) < 0, which means u should spend $42.00 dollars on your first guitar because that's exactly where the graph begins.
>>66084736
A head is usually a preamp and a power amp put together into one unit. Sometimes there is another (optional) input and output between the preamp and power amp sections of a head, so you can put effects after the preamp.
A speaker and an amp combined is a combo amp. So they do do that.
>>66082587
I was thinking at least $500 or so. Used ones on reverb sell for $600-$700.
>>66084770
I don't know, you tell me.
>>66084797
That's a logarithmic graph, not a sigmoidal. Not that it means much without any kind of data.
>>66084872
It objectively explains the general relation to amount spend and benefit acquired.
But if you don't believe in this, feel free to continue arguing on /gg/ that a $20,000 Custom Shop Gibson is 20x better than a $1,000 Fender or some other direction your bias leans towards.
>>66078176
Are strats the shittiest guitars ever? Just get a tele for that clean sound and a Jazzmaster or jaguar for the dirty shoegaze/surf rock. Maybe a les Paul. Why the fuck ever get a strat? All of them sound muddy as fuck. God I hate strats
What the fuck is the point of getting a strat? Literally just a shittier telecaster and again for the thick sound get a jazzmaster
>>66082774
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/msg/5662186658.html
My Nexus 6 camera is the best one I have. Is this good enough? I used the same photos on my reverb listing
>>66084920
Can't be objective without data.
And the whole logic is flawed, if I paid 100 bucks for a strandberg in a pawn shop, would it be suddently shit ? If I paid 200 bucks for a behringer pedal would it be the best pedal ever ?
>>66084932
>All of them sound muddy as fuck.
Maybe cheap-ass starter strats, the bridge position on a strat is bright as fuck
justinguitar guy is muh waifu
>>66084994
I claim PGS Andy as waifu.
>>66084932
I'm so confused, how does this even matter if they all use the same strings and the pickup is like 1 inch away from the strings anyway. doesn't it sound like nothing until you put the sick fx on it in post?
>>66078176
Going on a long ass flight. Tips on taking my guitar with me?
Electric, hard case.
objective
telecaster/jazzmaster >>> jaguar > strat
>>66084932
Why do you guys all get the same guitars? What's the fascination with teles and jaguars on this board?
>>66085152
Conformism and the belief a guitar's sound is set in stone and can never be changed.
>>66085152
I'm not obsessed by those meme instruments senpai, don't group me with the memers.
Got this for pretty cheap. Im really not sure what to use it for tho.
Can we talk on how fucking underrated Phil Campbell is? The dude is a fucking fantastic guitarist.
>>66085244
To stomp on Miku no pussy.
>>66085244
where'd you get it? Most of the places I see sell it at ~$100
>>66085081
Detune your strings and throw some of those packets that absorb moisture, if they put it in the bottom of the plane your guitar will be covered in moisture
>>66084807
>http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2012/02/21/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-guitar-amp-simulator-vstau-plugins/#prettyPhoto
so I'm still confused:
>IMPORTANT: Please keep in mind that some of the amp sims listed below come without built-in cab sims. That is like listening to a guitar straight through the amp, without using a cabinet. Which is actually a good thing, since it gives you the opportunity to use your favorite virtual guitar amp with your favorite cabinet.
how the fuck do you listen to a guitar through an amp without a cabinet if the cabinet is the thing with the speaker on it?
I'm thinking of switching the pickguard on pic related with a gold one and aged white pup covers/knob.
What do you guys think? Any other suggestions for combinations?
Looking for a practise amp for playing at home.Is the Orange Crush 20 worth 145 euro?
>>66085244
Play death metal with it on.
I wonder how an 8 string or bass would sound with it.
anyone could figure out the chords for this? my musical ear is shit and I want to know if my guesses are right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvze08LTjhk
Any good guides for learning how to get good amp sound e.g where to set amps and how to use the controls for what kinda songs ?
>>66085318
Speakers will color the sound differently depending on the brand , size, number, material which is why cab sims exist. A same amp through a 2x12" Celestion will not sound the same as a 1x15" Jensen for instance.
>>66085425
What amp do you have
>>66085345
too much bling for my taste bro, I think it looks nice as it is now, has a nice contrast
>>66085453
nothing amazing but I was hoping to learn general rules of thumb, seems like all guitar wizards just instinctively know all this stuff and i have no idea what im doing beyond a classical guitar
like; do amps allways go in the corner, what the fuck is presence and shape
if anyone has a for dummys crash course about getting good sound id be grateful
>>66084560
do you endorse them or something?
is this a good bass? i like the aesthetic and they're pretty reasonable.
>>66085386
I bought a crush 12 for $65, idk if you even need 20w for home use
>pick up guitar
>cool, now i can play all my favourite songs!
>check out ultimate guitar
>appearantly i have such shit taste in music that none of the songs i like are tabbed
>mfw
okay I got the in bars.
can't get out bars. I put the .dll file in the plugins folder but now I don't know what to do. I'm so dumb please send help
>>66085899
forgot pic sage
>>66083858
>>66083819
Gahd dayum, just buy a £10 copy like I did, for all your dad rock/big peghead needs.
>>66085835
reddit has a sub called tabs where people might tab something out for you, also some anon used to have a thing of fiver a site where you pay 5$ for anything, he would tab it for you
might be a good opportunity to ear learn and watch live to tab it your self
>>66085798
They're new, I don't think anyone on /gg/ has even tried one but it would be nice to have some first impressions. The specs are similar to those of a Squier precision but I suspect the finish might be better. It definitely sounds good in the namm reviews and the price is reasonable.
>>66085677
read your amps manual, the terms amps use are not consistent. Amp manuals are usually very short.
>>66085899
>>66085925
You'll get more help on /prod/ tbqh
>>66085425
Set Bass Mid and Treble to 6 6 6 and you should be good to go.
>>66085899
>>>/prod/
>>66085244
Run it through 2 fuzzes and make harsh noise
Anyone here knows anything about building/fixing pedals?
I have an analog delay pedal with a built-on power supply that can get the repeats as long as 1200ms.
I just realized, however, that now the most it does is around 600ms. The shortest delay time now is a bit fucked and doesn't sound as slapback-ish as it did before. Apart from that it still works normally.
Only thing I have to add is that it plugs directly into my wall socket and for the past months the electricity in my house has been utter shit.
Pic related is a gut shot.
Any advice on what it could be, specifically? Really appreciate it.
>>66086065
> Amp manuals are usually very short
Unless they are Mesa Boogies but those manuals are fun to read.
>>66085386
I have that lil guy
I enjoy it for what it's worth
>>66086188
That your pedal or just the same model?
>>66085798
>>66086028
they look cool and sound good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60CwXJrx14
>>66086374
Same model, it's a pic I pulled from Google.
I did open it, however, but didn't mess around too much since I'm not really well versed on this. I did, however, measure the TIME potentiometer (which is a 100K Dual pot like pic related) and while it was with it still on the circuit, with the knob turned all the way to the maximum delay possible (fully CCW), it's only reading 36K (and reads at 0K when all clockwise), though I could only measure the top connections and I don't really know how dual pots work.
I also thought the 0K reading for the shortest delay position reading was weird since it does make the delay disappear completely when fully clockwise/on the shortest setting, and before the problem there was still delay in that position, a very fast and beautiful slapback echo.
Any insight?
>>66085318
normally when you record a guitar you'd have a microphone in front of a speaker cabinet. without the speakercabinet the sound would be very unlistenable, it colors the sound a lot and the microphone does too. some software like guitar rig 5 and bias or amplitube has a cab sim integrated, when you go with free plugins - they mostly don't. but honestly the lepou amp sims like the lecto and the hybrit are way better than what guitar rig and those guys are trying to sell you. just get a cab sim like http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=1790
or lecab. and then load a good impulse response into it (that is the actual cab simulation, lecab and nadir just load them in). these are really good with the lecto amp sim https://www.dropbox.com/s/zq2yufvz46tn4w0/Catharsis.zip (just pick out the one that you like the best, there are different ones recorded with different mics etc) and theres a pack floating around these threads called good cabs 1.3 or somethingi like that, those are usable aswell. the thing with amp emulation is that the sounds you get from it range from absolutely unusable to shitty. some come close though, some so close that in a blind test you probably wouldnt notice. most of the time they dont sound quite as good as an actual good miced amp though. but its enough for some bedroom recording and shit or demos. professionally i'd rather use the real thing. so the fx chain is amp sim->cab loader loaded with impulse respone.
here are some other good vst's
good tube screamer pedal (overdrive - put before ampsim)
https://www.tseaudio.com/software/tse808
the anvil and emissary are both amp sims wich are okay
http://www.igniteamps.com/en/audio-plug-ins
the lecto, made to sound like the mesa boogie dual rectifier. probably one of the best amp sims around even if you include payed sims
http://lepouplugins.blogspot.de/2010/10/lecto.html (works great with the carthasis impulse responses)
>>66086541
Sorry dude, I don't think there's anything I can guess from that. There are forums where you might have better luck, just be sure to give as much info as possible and upload a gut shot.
The basic method is usually to test every component individually.
>>66082991
>lead free
do you hate yourself?
>>66087717
not him but it's harder and harder to find normal solder at local retailers where I live. I guess you can probably get it online fine.
Not a big deal though, really.
>>66087270
Yeah, that's what I thought.
I'm just stupidly anxious and keep wanting to find a solution right away.
I contacted the manufacturer and I'll see if I can get help (or possibly an exchange/warranty) first before I start to try the DIY route.
It's just so frustrating having this happen and having to wait.
Thanks for the help, man.
>>66087922
take it easy.
>>66082017
shite
I'm trying to get the tone to play Have A Cigar by Pink Floyd, cause it sounds cool, how do I do it?
I'm in poor fat mode, all I have is a CH1 and an OD3, what pedal settings/eq do I use?
>>66089092
*poor fag
>all my rhythm patterns are the same down, down up, up down up, up down up
>>66089092
get an esp arrow from their website, its marked down 3k dollars
>>66089374
>down down up up down up down up
why not just up down up down up down
>>66089374
>not down down down down down down down up up down up down down down
>>66085290
>covered in moisture
Made me giggle.
Probably a dumb question but how do you do those jagged little "hiccup" things on guitar like in the song Creep?
0:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkzRNyygfk
>>66090597
a pick scrape I guess ?
>>66090597
mute the strings with your left hand fingers and strum quickly up and down
>>66078176
I have a question, I haven't been playing very long so I hope this isn't too bad.
When I took lessons we eventually got to bending and I was told to wrap your thumb around the neck, then bend your string with wrist movement and an angled hand. Today I finally played with some other guys and one of them had his fingers straight up and he could bend with just the fingers. Is this another technique? I feel like my instructor didn't go through everything. Sorry for my English.
>>66090804
Thumb on top makes it easy to do obnoxious, flashy vibrato, thumb on back gives more range, and you can still do big, wide vibrato if you work on that.
It's not exactly "another technique" as the thumb placement depends on the guitar and the hands of the player, if you're still at your first steps, you can change your thumb placement without too much effort.
>>66080919
It never fails. Argue on /gg/ and think you've won with "well I barely even post here anyway."
Why bother posting int he first place?
got the ditto looper thing for myself about a week ago and this this is a fucking blast, thanks for whoever rec'd it in one of these
https://clyp.it/out4lw0v
https://clyp.it/un4aylfh
r8
https://clyp.it/rctqtess
>>66085270
I prefer Eddie because of his strat and pentatonic solos, but Phil is a fantastic guitarist indeed. More feely on his solos, I think.
>>66085386
that's about $125 in China,a THR10 is much worthy and better
>>66085106
>jazzmaster>strat
You're a walking meme my friend
>>66085345
Aged white could look good but, don't put the gold pickup guard on there.
>>66090804
Your teacher was right. I'd consider bending with only your fingers and holding your fingers straight bad technique.
bluesbreaker 15watt or blues junior for bedroom guitar kid?
>>66091776
7/10
6/10
>>66091919
7/10
Anyone have any Delay suggestions? I'm trying to do some ambient Frippertronics type stuff and need something that can give me at least a 4 second delay.
>>66085425
Generally, I keep my bass down on like 3 because I don't want a huge bass response, treble the highest because I play lead a lot and the middle keeps the tone balanced. If you take out the mid entirely, the sound becomes a little hollow, if you take the bass out, it's starts to thin, too much mid will do the same and kind of muddy the sound. Too much treble response can be jarring for me in clean sounds too. It really depends so much on the sound you want, like if you're going for a jack white sound, have the bass higher, maybe 5 or so, the treble way up and the mid lower, Dan Aurbach has a sound a lot like the setup I use now, Jimi Hendrix had a little less treble response because of the type of cable he used but, his bass was set relatively low as well. At least to my understanding, that is.
>>66089092
It's a MXR Phase 90 on the recording
>>66092075
Do you like a British tone or an American tone more? One's not really better than the other, they're just two completely different flavors of tone.
>>66078176
>it's too warm to play bass
Fuck this shit, I need to buy a house and make my own practice space in the basement, where it's nice and cool and nobody cares about the noise.
>>66092485
I wonder if I can get anyone to rent out a bomb shelter for me
>better bass player but i never play bass
what does it mean?
>>66092652
Bass is ezpz Xdddddd
Lmao, am I right?
Why dont you guys just buy a 9 dollar rocksmith cable and have all the virtual amps you want?
>>66092639
That's some documentary tier musical background right there
>>66092753
Genius
you should totally do that
>>66092753
because my line 6 spider IV is the most versatile amp, and has all the tones one could possibly want built right in!
>>66092263
I want some good good blues tone I think,I am not sure which have better low-volume performance.
Is that 007w bass breaker any good or just a meme?
>>66092944
Can you imagine how awesome this would be if it was actually true? I can't help but look forward to various new multifx units for this reason. Always exciting to keep tabs on.
Whelp I just picked up a new toy...
>>66092947
They're both great, just different flavors. The Bassbreaker recreates the Marshall Bluesbreaker, so think like Cream-era Clapton type tones. It's British style tone, so think Hendrix, Page, etc. The Blues Jr is more of an American tone, so think like Neil Young, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jerry Garcia, John Fogherty, the list goes on.
>>66093141
Fucking hell
>>66093093
>optimism for the future
>on 4chan
>>66093093
i dont think we will ever get a nice good analog sound digitally sadly. it will be just like film vs video or vinyl vs flac. its convenient to use and eventually it will become good enough so you can say its not completely shit and even better in some ways, but some inherent features of analogue will be lost. like that nice pleasing grain film has or the nice authentic sound of tape saturation. i guess you could argue that that is "unclean" data, but then againe, where would we be in the world of guitars if we hadn't introduced clipping noise to it.
>>66093214
>optimism for the future
>on 4chan
>>66093166
that's not bad thx anon,b-but is there any difference between their loudness?I don't want my roomies to fuck my ass up.
>>66093384
If you're looking at the Bassbreaker 007, it'll be a little quieter because its 7 watts through a 10 inch speaker, compared to the 15 watt power of the Blues Jr and its 12 inch speaker. You'll have no problem getting manageable quiet sounds from either but the Bassbreaker 007 will be slightly quieter.
>>66093463
I watched a review video,that bb 007 sounds like a vox amp with full of clean tone,is that true?
>>66093320
I mean, we've already gotten to the point of imitating at least vinyl and tape saturation digitally with extremely good results .I mean, that's what we're talking about, imitation. I dunno of you can really compare that to the growth of digital audio that was meant to be cleaner.
Well, in any case as a software developer I have the strong belief that digital amps will be identical in sound eventually, and it's only a question of when. I mean, hell, at some point we'll be able to model the electrons themselves in real time. not that we'd ever need to go that far to model sound, but it's possible.
>>66093547
Yeah, it's definitely in that league of tone. The Bassbreaker is a bit more like Marshall than Vox, but overall you'll find similar tones there.
>>66093179
>Martin
Should have bought a Taylor.
>>66092115
Digitech Digidelay, cheap and has lots of cool features
We've reached bump limit lads:
NEW THREAD
>>66093842
>>66093842
>>66093842
>>66093842
>>66093842
Gonna order a warmoth neck to transfer my tele's scale length to 24.5.Should I change the neck to mahogany with rosewood fretboard or should continue using maple neck?
What is /gg/ reading?
>>66093896
There's no reason to ask this, it's completely off topic for gg and mu.
>>66093551
i guess im somewhat of a software developer too, atleast i'm getting a cs degree, and i'm a firm believer that analogue>digital.
with film for example the grain is true random noise but there is no such thing as true random noise in a digital photo. in fact manufacturers work very hard to try and make the pattern in the digital noise less apparent, but it will never be truly random because digitally such a thing doesnt exist.and random noise is something very special in the way our brain percieves it. for example there are white noise audio files ppl use to relax because they block all other sounds from the outside and our brain is actually able to completely disregard this random noise, which would not be possible if there was a pattern to it. the same goes for film grain in a sense. i mean the way we see thing with our eyes even has grain or noise or whatever you wanna call it. try to look at a blank surface of one color, it will never look like one truly solid color to your eyes, theres grain or noise. that shit is something natural to our perception. i eam you're right, eventually with a big enough computing power you could just simulate every little thing. but the problem is the following, firstly we have no true randomness, secoundly and more importantly digital is always just on or off, digital can be any number of states between on and off. actually an INFINITE number of states. sure you can imitate that digitally, but not quite. if you're close enough to like 0.0000000001 it might be almost the same, but it will never be truly the same. when going digital you always have to round the number at some point, analogue doesn't do that.
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