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ITT: one of these
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>>65865953
lol contrarian and patrician are the wrong way round
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>>65865953
Plebian: Album that a lot of people like
Contrarian: Album that is generally considered to be awful by the fans
Patrician: "underrated" album that is actually the favorite of many on /mu/
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>>65866016
ayy lmao u cracked the code
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Plebeian - Close to the Edge
Patrician - Fragile
Contrarian - Tormato
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>>65865982
>t. contrarian
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>>65865953
>>65866046
>>65866109
Top cringe
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>>65866042
but all of them should be under contrarian
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Plebeian - Unknown Pleasures
Contrarian - Closer
Patrician - Substance
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>>65866160
See >>65865982
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David Bowie
>Plebeian - Hunky Dory
>Contrarian - Let's Dance
>Patrician - Station to Station

Radiohead
>Plebeian - Kid A
>Contrarian - Pablo Honey
>Patrician - Amnesiac

Swans
>Plebeian - To Be Kind
>Contrarian - Love of Life
>Patrician - White Light From the Mouth of Infinity

Pink Floyd
>Plebeian - Dark Side of the Moon
>Contrarian - The Final Cut
>Patrician - Animals

King Crimson
>Plebeian - In the Court of the Crimson King
>Contrarian - Beat
>Patrician - Red
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>>65866046
>>65865953

>Plebian
Fragile
90125

>Contrarian
Relayer
Tales from Topographic Ocena

>Patrician
Close to the Edge
The Yes Album
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>>65866238
Contrarian for Pink Floyd should be A Momentary Lapse of Reason or Endless River
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>>65866238
t. contrarian
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>>65866110
fixed that for you
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>>65866295
Nah, those albums are too shit for even contrarians to like.
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>>65866555
meg white is so fucking hot
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>>65866555
correct ;]
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>>65866793
when i was i middle school i used to masturbate to videos of her drumming
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plebeian - loveless
contrarian - mbv
patrician - isn't anything
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>>65866793
>>65868019
She's got a sex tape I think
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>>65868149
so does fantano
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>>65866259
This
>>65866046
Tormato is underrated and Patrician if anything
>>65865953
Pls stop this meme
Close to the Edge is UNTOUCHABLE
Fantano even did a classic review of it ;^)
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>>65866238
thinking Amnesia is better than Kid A is about as contrarian as you can get.
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>>65866129
switch tpab with good kid
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>>65866238
>Plebeian - Hunky Dory
>Contrarian - Let's Dance
>Patrician - Station to Station

i agree with station to station but why the fuck would his most commercial album be in contrarian?
makes no fucking sense
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>>65866259
exactly this
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>>65866238
>>Patrician - Animals
>not piper or WYWH
wew
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>>65866042
make contrarion geidi primes and make halfaxa patrician
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song islands isnt bad though
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>>65868663
because m80 people who actually listen to david bowie wouldn't ever say that's his best album

>>65869441
nah Wish You Were Here had two weak songs on it, Piper is a good call but thought it was too contrarian to choose over Animals, which I believe is their defining statement.
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>>65869664
But Let's Dance is gold on every track, and about as heightened as dance rock will ever become. The people who write it off as a strictly commercial album probably haven't listened to the lyrics, or listened to it in context with Iggy's The Idiot.
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>>65866530
I sort of agree except I'd switch plebeian and contrarian
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AC/DC
>Plebeian - Back in Black
>Contrarian - Fly on the Wall
>Patrician - Powerage
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>>65866746
kys
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>>65866179
???????????

Music for the airports is easily his most well known work
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>>65868222
>Mega Elder Patrician Divinity tier - Toy World
>>65869660
>Mega Elder Patrician Divinity tier - Don't Wake Me Up
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>>65869853
Let's Dance is good, and I think the title track is utter brilliance and one of David's best tunes, but still, anybody who tries to say it's better or more important than Low, or Station to Station, are kidding themselves really.
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>>65866293
No no no, it's:
Plebian
>Duke
Contrarian
>Wind and Wuthering
Patrician
>Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
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>>65866042
Geidi Primes is her only album
you fucked up
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>>65870239
this even though i have no fucking idea who the middle one is
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>sonic youth
plebeian - daydream nation
contrarian - sister
patrician - bad moon rising

>red house painters
plebeian - down colorful hill
contrarian - s/t
patrician - retrospective
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>>65870285
Faye Wong, a Mandarin/Cantonese pop star referred to as Heavenly Queen by the Chinese media.
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SWANS
pleb - the seer
contrarian - young god
patrician - cop
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Plebian - Highway 61 Revisited
Contrarian - Bringing It All Back Home
Patrician - Blonde on Blonde

Plebian - Crooked Rain Crooked Rain
Contrarian - Brighten the Corners
Patrician - Wowee Zowee
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>>65870420
>greatest hit compilation
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>>65866238
King crimson
Patrician-starless and bible black
Contrarian-beat or three
Plebian-red/ITCOTCK

David Bowie
Patrician-hunky dory
Contrarian-pin up
Plebian-ziggy stardust

Swans
Patrician-great annihilator
Contrarian-burning world
Plebian-seer
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>>65870810
>Plebian - Crooked Rain Crooked Rain
I'll kill you
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>>65869993
t. plebian
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>>65870720
young god is fucking brutal
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>>65872837
wasn't saying it was bad. i love it but damn is it hard hitting.
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>>65870720
that's a really poor choice of contrarianism for swans, considering that EP is basically a distillation of the brutal sound they had going taken to its limits in the studio. some of my favorite ever swans material is on there famalam.
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pink floyd
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>>65870185
Swap Medulla and Homogenic and you're right
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>>65866530
move every album but the Queen to patrician
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>>65873409
how the fuck is nail contrarian?
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>>65866555
spot on
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>>65869379
>Little Creatures
>Worst
That's not True Stories.
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>>65873505
How is it not?
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>>65873327
what do you think a more contrarian swans album? I think it'd be something pre-children of god
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>>65866078
> implying Ys isn't the patrician choice
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>>65873622
because it's his most popular release by a considerable margin?
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>>65873712
And also gets the most praise which overshadows his later, more refined work
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>>65873769
right, but how does that make it contrarian?
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>>65866165
Why is everything so lo-res? Did you resize really small pictures?
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>>65866314
LMFAO
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>>65873808
Visceral anger trumps craft and discipline
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>>65866746
Move Bends to plebian, TKoL to contrarian and add PH to contrarian
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>>65873627
the burning world
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>>65865953
fresh one
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>>65874051
except TKOL is patrician

sorry you're a pleb :^)
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>>65866530
>Meat is Murder and The Queen is Dead under contrarian
The fuck, those are by far their most widely known albums.
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>>65866303
but its all shit
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>>65869931

AC/DC

>Plebeian - All of it
>Contrarian -
>Patrician -
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>>65869379
Little Creatures is a solid album.
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>>65866530
Hatful of Hollow to Contrarian and The Queen is Dead to Plebeian then 10/10
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>>65874974
>plebeian
Nine Inch Nails
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>>65868542
This and fuck whoever made that fucking image.
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Not albums, but projects.

Plebeian - Dog Fashion Disco
Contrarian - Knives Out
Patrician - Polkadot Cadaver
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>>65869877
No. Those are all patrician.
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>>65870509
Literally who?
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>>65873338
>WYWH Contrarian
wut?
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>>65873951
that literally makes you the contrarian here
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>>65875828
All plebeian. It's Panic at the Disco literally every song sucks. Prove me wrong. You can't.
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>>65875970
This.
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>>65865953
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You know I'm right.
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>>65876168
>Plebeian - Candy Claws
FTFY
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>>65870239
>tfw contrarian
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>>65866078
>>65873665
>implying there is a bad choice at all
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Bloom
Beach House
Depression Cherry
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>>65866129
Correct
>>65866144
Chiastic Slide should be in patrician.
Oversteps should be in contrarian.
>>65866179
Switch 1 and 4
>>65869877
Yes
>>65870131
Kill yourself
>>65870185
Switch Post and Medulla
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Plebian: SAW 85-92
Contrarian: SAW vol.2
Patrician: Drukqs
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>>65869664
>because m80 people who actually listen to david bowie wouldn't ever say that's his best album

i know that but doesn't contrarian mean that it's not the artist's most loved or popular album but an album that a small section of fans really like so that they come off as superior?
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Plebeian - Geogaddy
Contrarian - Tomorrow's Harvest
Patrician - Music Has the Right to Children
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eh?
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>>65876257
Yayaya hi Victoria
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>>65870688
Replace Destroyed with Wait For Me.
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>>65876415
how is it even possible to fuck up this bad
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>>65876415
Plebian - MPP, Strawberry Jam, Feels

Contrarian - Danse Manatee, Campfire Songs, Centipede Hz, Painting With

Patrician - Spirit They're Gone, Hollindagain, Here Comes the Indian, Sung Tongs
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>>65875828
>>65876356
>>65876554
>>65876653
everything should be under pleb
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right?
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>>65876515
Perfect
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>>65876215
they're all Candy laws albums.
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>>65876554
>>65876356
>>65875828
Literally all plebeian
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>>65876515
switch jenny death and niggas on the moon and you're golden
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>>65873338
replace WYWH with The Final Cut
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>>65866614
Switch FL and Logic. mb add in Pro Tools.
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>>65874974
nin was my first favorite band for like 6 years, starting when i was very young. and then nirvana became kind of a "guilty pleasure" favorite band for me once I rediscovered them in early adulthood. we might have a lot in common, tripfag. with teeth is great but id say the plebian album is Year Zero. which is also great but i felt that it was lacking from Trent's previous work, but not as bad as The Slip or anything else around then. The Fragile is also the objective best nin album, i agree. tell me a little about yourself, what are your favorite cuts from the Fragile? What are you listening to these days?
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>>65876515
precisely
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>>65875970
theyre better than some /mu/core honestly. they have some enjoyable songs
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Undeniable truth.
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>>65877131
agreed
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>>65873665
This. Have One On Me is Joanna Newsom making a more down to earth Ys and then shoving a significant amount of filler in there so that she has 3 CDs. Ys is perfect, unadulterated bliss.
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>>65866179
Switch 1 and 4
>>65869877
Squeeze is the most patrician :^)
>>65875828
all pleb
>>65877131
yes.
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>>65866143
I love 0.02
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>>65870185
How is Vulnicura plebeian?
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>>65870059
>Duke
>plebian

Also Trespass would be a more fitting contrarian album than W&W.
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>>65869689
That is spot on.
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>>65866293
>>65870059
>>65879976
baka senpaitachi here's the correct one
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>>65876690
so right
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>>65876674
>>65876818
you people are probably the most disgusting shits i have ever seen, seriously I am disgusted by you being in the same thread as me. I can already smell your shit stinking breath through my monitor while there some bullshit rap music playing in the background of your dark room as you type "Marina is pleb" shitpost. Marina is objectvily the best female artist in the current time and if you don't accept it then you're probably a shit stinking manlet that sits in his Dorito Dust Coated Room while your mom comes in your room and wipes your fucking ass that is plugged by triangular dorritos because you fucked up your intestine by only eating unhealthy shit to a point where it's not even trying, you literally shit doritos, but don't worry, your mom won't throw them away, she will just but it in a bowl and you can eat the same 6 doritots for the rest of your life so your mom doesn't have to by new ones because you spend all your money on shitty DISGUSTING rap music. You're Music taste is shit kid, and you know it. Marina is the best
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>>65866238
>Patrician - Red
>not Discipline or Larks Tongues
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>>65875828
A Fever You Can't Sweat Out and Pretty Odd should be switched.
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>>65866530

>Plebeian
Hatful Of Hollow
The Queen Is Dead

>Contrarian
The smiths
Meat Is Murder
Strangeways, Here We Come

>Patrician
Meat Is Murder
Hatful Of Hollow

Basically this.
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>>65866129
Too bad they're all plebian.
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>>65866614
bitwig should be true contrarian
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>>65874974
I was so stunned to hear Pretty Hate Machine after The Fragile, because it fucking sucks shit while The Fragile is incredible.
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>>65869379
I've got TNOTBITK on vinyl.
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>>65866129
Theyre all pleb, but Section .80 is his best because hes not trying so fucking hard
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>>65880174
this is so inaccurate man

murmur is the patrician choice, reckoning is also fantastic and not a contrarian pick. automatic for the people should be the plebeian choice here.
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>>65880174
Surely Plebeian is hands down Automatic for the People!?
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Days is my favorite but I do have to admit it's sorta pleb
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>>65880882
Plebeian: Every album by them, you fucking pleb
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>>65880152
with all my respect to rap I agree

A L L H A I L M A R I N A
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H
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M
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>>65880519
three cheers is patrician too and you know it, but besides that ya
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>>65880052
someone hasn't read a book
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This rating system has been subpar. Until now. I hope your monitor can handle this image, plebs.
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>>65881668
wait so is contrarian supposed to be the best adjective or?
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>>65866042
Anything by Grimes is fucking plebian, what a shit artist
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>>65866530
Switch the pleb and contrarian, I thought that was pretty obviois
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>>65881685
I don't think you finished that question. Or what?
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>>65869660
Glow Pt 2 is actually patrician though, just because a lot of people like it doesn't mean it's for plebs
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>>65876356
All pleb
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>>65881593
This >>65876515 should be in patrician
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>>65876528
This.
>>65876841
You're fucking retarded
>>65876690
The Pod is also patrician
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>>65880429
Move Pornography to contrarian and Three Imaginary Boys is patricisn
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>>65869660
The Microphones - Mount Eerie is hands down the best thing they did.
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>>65881846
not really
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>>65881846
Yep. JD is not patrician at all
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>>65881791
you're supposed to finish it
>is contrarian the best, or is it.......
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>>65881918
You're a fucking musically illiterate retard
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>>65881924
that's what a pleb would say
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>>65881941
so are you, fag. get off my board NOW
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>>65881934
Contrarian is the worst obviously. Syro is shit.
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>>65873338
Replace DSotM with The Wall, WYWH with any Barrett album and Animals with Meddle
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>Plebian
Artist's most popular album

>Contrarian
Whichever decent album has the fewest ratings on RYM

>Patrician
Artist's 2nd or 3rd best album
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>>65876415
this is absurd dude
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>>65882132
this
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>>65870020
well known ≠ plebeian
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>>65880962
Black Parade is better.
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>>65882242
but that's wrong
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>>65882242
literally no

>TCH = pleb
>MHTRTC = contrarian
>Geogaddi = patrician
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>>65875970
nine in the afternoon is a nice song
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>>65882367
S/T is criminally underrated
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Pleb - Dopethrone
Contrarian - Come My Fanatics...
Patrician - S/t
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>>65880519
I love danger days
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>>65876515
perfect
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>>65881972
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>>65866238
correct on Radiohead, but literally no one's favorite is Pablo Honey. Contrarians prefer In Rainbows and King of Limbs
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>>65883623
Pleb: PG
Contrarian: HOTH
Patrician: IV
>>
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>>65870185
>pleb
Post
>contrarian
Medulla
Volta
>patrician
everything else
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>>65866238
>most popular album
>Contrarian
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>>65881593
exactly
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>>65884053
Switch contrarian and patrician and that's right. I'm sick of the wingsfags on this board.
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>>65884156
Wings are terrible. You're right. It's correct the way it is though.
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>>65882242
kek, the campfire headphase is factually the pleb release of BoC. it's just a random collection of vapid and pretty tycho-tier beats
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>>65880519
Switch contrarian and patrician
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>>65884258
agreed
>>
>>65883623
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that IV sucks
>>
when "pleb" and "patrician" are the same album, you have a great band

>>65883623
pleb: IV
contrarian: II, III
patrician: I

>>65873338
pleb: tdsotm, wywh
contrarian: animals, meddle
patrician: the piper

>>65870810
>Plebian - Highway 61 Revisited
>Contrarian - Bringing It All Back Home
>Patrician - Blonde on Blonde
correct

>>65869877
plebeian: & nico
contrarian: self-titled
patrician: & nico, wlwh
shit: loaded, squeeze

>>65869379
add 77 to patrician and it's fine

>>65866318
t. contrarian

>>65866238
>>65871773
pleb: itcotck
contrarian: larks tongues, starless
patrician: itcotck
>>
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>>65866238
>browses /mu/ once
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>>65879752
So right.
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>>65881534
>AB contrarian

Wtf, you really don't understand what that word means.
>>
Plebeian: Popular music
Contrarian: Traditional folk music
Patrician: Art music

you can stop posting now lads
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>>65876415
t. pandemonic ultrapleb
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>>65876415
It should be all under pleb
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>>65874974
WEWWW cool dude u didnt put downward spiral in there WEEWW so hipster XD
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>>65876690
Plebian: None
Contrarian: quebec
Patrician: Pure guava, the pod, GWS:TO
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>>65884630
except in reality, traditional folk music is patrician, and art music is right next to popular music in the pleb category
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>>65866555
FTFY
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I hope thread isn't dead, gonna post some soon
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>>65880429
dis
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>>65873403
Where the hell is Arc?
>>
>Plebeian: To be kind
>Contrarian:Filth
>Patrician: Soundtracks for the blind
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>>65866746
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>>65881793
This actually made me laugh
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>>65885460
>Contrarian:Filth
HOW?
>>
I don't even know what contrarian mean tbaych
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>>65884605
I just assumed it was
>pleb = bad/most accessable
>contrarian = mediocre to good
>patrician = great/least accessable

I didn't know when I made it that contrarian means the album is considered shit. Since this is the case, wouldn't it actually make more sense then to put contrarian before pleb? It really doesn't make sense to me since I would assume that the one that means the album is bad (or just generally agreed to be) would be at the far left, and that it would go from there up into pleb.
>>
>>65885460
>Doesn't know what contrarian means
Also you should split this up:

Early Swans: Plebeian: Filth
Contrarian: Holy Money
Patrician: Children of God

Modern Swans: Plebeian: To Be Kind
Contrarian: My Father Will Guide Me
Patrician: The Seer
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>>65885636
t. plebeian
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>>65885618
Contrarian is someone who takes a minority or opposing view just for the sake of taking that view, or in spite of the majority view. In this context, it usually means the dark horse album that is good, but only considered the best in opposition to what is generally considered so.
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>>65885231
I planned to have much more but i have a friend over, if thread won't be dead in 5~6 hours ill post the rest
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>>65883157
eyyyyyy
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>>65865953
>Close To The Edge being Plebeian
>Some of the other ones in this topic
This only goes to show that sometimes internet exposure to certain things at a less mature age is a bad idea. It's like all the 12 year old Filthy Frank fans who don't get most of his videos.
>>
>>65876515
b-but exmilitary is my favorite
>>
>>65885731
Eww, everything is wrong except Black Sabbath. And Black Sabbath has problems too.
>>
>>65866144
>Plebeian
Amber
TR
Oversteps
LP5
Exai
>Contrarian
Incunabula
elseq 1-5
Chiastic Slide
>Patrician
Confield
Draft
Untilted
Quaristice
EP7
>>
>>65866318
How has Replica contrarian when its his most popular album by far?
>>
>>65885731
Where do Bowie fans rank The Man Who Sold The World?
>>
>>65886346
Contrarian
>>
>>65886289
>Oversteps
>Pleb
uh, no.
>>
>>65886383
So it's not good or not good compared to the rest?
>>
>>65886423
It's good, but it's nowhere near his other albums.
>>
>>65886404
uh, yes.
>>
>>65880399
larks is experimental but red is pretty much the most perfect rock album ever made
discipline is ok
>>
>>65877146
I was never really into NIN when I was younger. Being an edgy Marilyn Manson fan I was disappointed at the lack of SICK RIFFS when I played TDS. I rediscovered them about a year and a half ago and they quickly became my favorite band, even though I listen to more "true" industrial bands like Coil and Einsturzende Neubaten.
I consider Year Zero almost on par with TDS and The Fragile. The overarching concept, to me, makes up for the similar production values on individual songs.
As far as favorite cuts off the Fragile, I'd go with Somewhat Damaged (dat 9/8 time signature), Even Deeper, The Wretched, and The Great Below. Also I have a soft spot for the heavy songs like No You Don't and Starfuckers Inc.
If you wanna listen to more industrial stuff I'd recommend Clock DVA and God. Techno Animal and Saul Williams do some cool industrial Hip Hop, and I've just recently got into Neofolk with Rome.
>>
>>65876600
This is correct
>>
>>65886503
nope. plenty of people can't into it and it's their most melodically and harmonically complex release.
>>
Sufjan Stevens

>Plebian
Illinois

>Contrarian
Seven Swans

>Patrician
All Delighted People
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>>65876415
>Pleb
PW
Feels
MPP

>Contrarian
CH
DM
HCTI

>Pat
CS
SJ
ST
STGSTV
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>>65875828
fixed
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>>65887203
also fixed
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>>65866078
how the fuc is Milk Eyed Mender a contrarian choice
>>
>>65882264
uhhh

"ple·be·ian
pləˈbēən/
noun
1.
(in ancient Rome) a commoner.
adjective
1.
of or belonging to the commoners of ancient Rome."

idiot
>>
>>65878947
>filler

no
>>
>>65866614
add Audacity to the Patrician column
>>
>>65876600
On the mark

>>65887140
>SJ is patrician
Dream on, child.
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>>65889378
spot on.
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>>65889378
Fixed it for you
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Aight so this does NOT reflect my personal opinion on these albums, just what I've noticed on here and through general public (I guess that's the point lol). I myself love EVERY single album these bastards release.
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>>65890928
My favs are actually the plebs xD
>>
>>65890928
Fuck, I forgot Pork soda too. Also I didn't include their Cover Albums on purpose i.e. Miscellaneous Debris and Rhinoplasty.
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>>65890374
facts
>>
>>65879730
switch patrician and plebian
>>
>>65890928
>putting seas of cheese in pleb
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>>65868244
I'd imagine at the end he's look towards the camera and say "Meh she was a light 6"
>>
>>65866143
artist?
>>
>>65890928
who even listens to this degenerate artist LMAO
>>
>>65866110
you have it literally backwards you stupid nignog
>>
>popular, not popular, second most popular/worst release
ftfy
>>
>>65874974
where the fuck does Ghosts fall
>>
>>65883623
This is correct.
>>
>>65891174
>Thinks it isn't
like I said I personally LOVE the album, but those two are ALL I hear about. I cosidered pleb in these cases albums most played out not bad.
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>>65891233
This degenerate human being.
>>
>>65876690
I feel like Plebian should be Chocolate and Cheese, it's generally the entry into Ween for most people and some of their most famous stuff is on there. Patrician should be the Pod or 12 Golden Country Hits. Quebec and God, Ween and Satan belong in contrarian
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>>65885833
Contrarian needs to be switched to SFTBH, despite it being a great album it is the one that people use to be contrarian to the consensus of Pinkerton being patrician.
>>
This was a good thread. Let it rest in peace.
>>
>>65891222
albur
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>>65866238
>swans
>patrician
>white light
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>65890928
man Primus really had some ugly album art
>>
>>65886346
I love it but it's no where near his best work in the 70s
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>>65892463
I think that was the point.. they didn't give a shit. plus they had good friends on to make them and give them something to have fun with.
They fancied themselves a "Residents" team sooo yeah. But horrific nonetheless lol
>>
>>65866530
There's nothing contrarian about the queen is dead.
>>
>>65876415
Everything here is wrong.
>>
>>65880075
There's nothing patrician about OKC
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>>65866530
>>65881793
>>65882242
>>65884053
learn what contrarian means.
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