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Old one hit bump limit. Let's shitpost until the last two tracks leak.
Leak the last two tracks, Lark
gave in and started listening to the incomplete leak. Cloud Of Forgetting is incredible.
>>65511492
Third.
>>65511513
Only if someone replies to this post with dubs.
>>65511522
your post is dubs so my post has dubs in it
leak it lark
>>65511522
you just did
>>65511522
pls
>>65511522
>demands dubs
>rolls dubs
What did he meme by this?
>>65511522
ok!
Mediocre shite.
They're barely even trying anymore. Every track sounds the fucking same except Frankie M.
>>65511522
done
>>65511522
here's your reply
and your dubs
>>65511522
Bang bang
boom boom
I got dubs
fuc kyo
>>65511522
(you)
>>65511588
ayyyyyyyy
>>65511522
Hand them over
>>65511588
THE CHOSEN ONE
>>65511588
HEACTUALLYDIDITTHEABSOLUTEMADMAN
dubs if you faggots are gonna have to wait 9 days for the last two tracks
>>65511621
Ayyyyyyyy
>>65511522
>>65511588
Legends
>>65511522
check these
>>65511588
winrar
Been pretty down today lads can I get a (you)
>>65511740
anything for (You)
>>65511740
cheer up!
>>65511740
cheer up anon, it's gonna be alright
>>65511740
there there
Serious talk though, when does everyone think these last two tracks are going to surface? A couple of hours ago I could've sworn we'd get a full leak today but it's looking more and more doubtful. The thing is if it doesn't happen today, it might not happen until next week.
>>65511740
I'm here for (You) anon.
>>65511740
i love you
>>65511740
Mikey g. and the memeful lads all wish you a happy continuation of your life.
>>65511740
Dubs guy here, I dedicate my dubs to you friend
>>65511790
Hey, I'm the original dubs guy
WHERE ARE THE LAST TWO TRACKS
>>65511611
Damn...................
>>65511790
>>65511776
>>65511764
>>65511763
>>65511760
>>65511759
>>65511758
>>65511755
Thanks lads have a (you) yourself
enjoying the album so far
>>65511740
Feel better bro. Shits gonna be okay I'm rooting for you
>>65511763
our only hope for this week's leak is if people get their physical copies. There is a chance because some people have their copies shipped since Monday.
>>65511800
I meant the second guy itt to get dubs.
Also check'd
YOUR SKIN
Download?
Can somebody explain WHY the last two tracks aren't in the leak? I just got here, sorry guys
>>65512013
https://mega.nz/#F!9EozERYY!2ueobGEMS0qZNf59sZc0RA
this is the one still missing a couple tracks
>>65512019
Because Larkin's hiding them
>>65512019
From what I've gathered this seems to have happened:
>somebody with a press copy accidentally shared it on soulseek
>someone else found it and started downloading
>they got partway through the title track before the first guy realised and took it off
>the second guy shared the first six songs on soulseek for all to download
world looks black
jesus CHRIST it's good senpai
>>65512065
Anything ever come of all that by the way? Haven't heard anything about it in a while.
>>65512081
Ah, okay.
Has there been any inclination as to the possibility of the last two songs leaking? The idea of only listening to part of an album like this just feels weird desu senpai
Any other sources for the first 6 tracks? The Mega link is just giving me errors.
>>65512130
Same here, keeps on failing right as I start downloading
>>65512130
>>65512143
Yeah same here. Weird.
>>65512130
I think each of the first six tracks can be downloaded individually on slsk. Otherwise, not sure it was mirrored to zippy or anything. Sorry matey. I'm sure it will be everywhere in full when the final two tracks leak though.
>>65512121
The only way would be if someone else managed to get it off Soulseek (or What.cd) and has been hiding it. Otherwise we're going to have to wait for the pre-orders arriving.
>>65512130
It'll most likely be on Soulseek by now.
>>65512111
Gira et al. pretty much proved his innocence, Larkin deleted her social accounts, everyone forgot about it.
>>65511492
what would you guys say to someone who thinks gira just combines elements of post-rock and tribal ambient/drone?
>>65512121
A user on what.cd has all 8 tracks but is only sharing the link to the last 2 with elite and above members
>>65512111
To the best of my knowledge evidence points to the claim being fake
It's up on what.cd in full. Ooooo shit
>>65512172
Yes, that's an accurate description of some of Swans' music.
>>65512186
To all members?
If the last two tracks aren't leaked all of your moms die.
>>65512171
>>65512184
Okay, that's good. I would listen to the new album either way, just kind of wanted to know. Thanks.
>>65512186
is it
>>65512229
no, it is not.
i really love the "secret club" mentality of what.cd
What's the album like compared to thier last 2?
>>65512273
do you want an invite?
>>65512186
no it isn't you trickster!
>>65512278
It sounds like Swans. Not all the way through it yet, but they're very consistent. It really feels like the final installment of a trilogy. Liking it.
>>65512278
the same
>>65512278
This one isn't released yet
>>65512278
More focused on grooves/atmosphere, from what I've heard; in terms of tone, it's probably less diverse than TBK unfortunately.
>>65512278
Most people have said the quality is on par with the previous two albums but the sound is more atmospheric and melodic.
>>65512278
it feels a lot lighter than TBK or The Seer. It's got a lot of similarities to TBK, but a lot of TBK's meat and power is gone and replaced with something a little more... spiritual?
>>65512322
Nice dubs, noticing the atmosphere, not sure about grooves though, TBK kind of had a lot of strong moments in that area imo. Kind of bummed Black Hole Man isn't making it on to the album though.
>>65512361
>Kind of bummed Black Hole Man isn't making it on to the album though.
Is this guy for real?
>>65512361
what are you talking about. it was just renamed
Can someone post link(s)?
I'm at work and can't go searching.
>>65512373
>>65512376
Oh shit, didn't realize, that must be the title track then? Shit, now I'm really excited for the full thing.
>>65512391
There's one ITT ffs.
>>65512391
ctrl f you fucking faggot
>>65512391
Pretty sure you're boned man, sorry.
>>65512411
>>65512413
Other people were saying those links aren't working anymore anyway.
>>65512183
I don't know what.cd rules, surely some elite /mu/tants could DL it and share?
>>65512427
Nah megashare link in this thread works.
>>65512459
1. I doubt anyone on here is elite.
2. Chance of what.cd account getting banned.
>>65512361
I think TBK had more actual 'songs' whereas this sounds more based around atmosphere, I guess? Yeah I heard Black Hole Man on The Gate, I think they're using some of the music for the title track of TGM? Not sure!
>>65512475
oh ok, too bad I guess
I thought the idea behind what.cd was to be a safe environment to share music, if it leaks it leaks, but why only make it available to very select few?
>>65512508
the leaks still extremely new it will be shared with all sooner than you think
Only low point on the album for me so far has been Jennifer's vocals on when will i return. For the rest of the so far leaked album it definitely lives up to my expectations
>>65512524
do you think so? I mean sure its mostly Europeans that are online now but I think if there was a chance of it getting available surely it would have already happened... personally I think Friday is the earliest we can get it in full if someone gets their preorder
>>65512529
whats your problem with them? I like how they are both detached and emotional, she's singing about how she got nearly kidnapped, its pretty strong song desu
>>65511740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZCiHsIfrOg
>>65512508
The user sharing it with elite members only would be on the forums or IRC chat.
Not an official upload.
From experience it'll be up from 1 week - 2 days before release.
So I was gone and have no idea what's going on yeah, what the fuck happened bois?
>>65512290
Not him, but I certainly do. Not that you're offering,
I refuse to listen to this leak as I am waiting for the Young God Lord Gira hinself to send me my legally purchased copy of the record. Only then will I indulge in the glorious sound that is The Glowing Man.
>>65512599
read the thread desu
>>65512290
Honestly if it's up for offer dude. That'd be awesome
[email protected]
>>65512461
My bad.
>>65512483
I could kind of see that. Looking forward to it either way, thanks.
>>65512642
>>65512679
sent ;)
>>65512183
>muh sekrit club
>>65512658
You're an idiot. I bought my copy already and my only further wish now is those last two fucking tracks.
been revisiting swans discography recently and i'm taken aback by how boring a lot of it is. i used to think it was incredible and groundbreaking back when i first started browsing /mu/ 4 years ago but since then i've exposed myself to many different kinds of music. of course some of it is still great, anyone else feel the same way?
AOTY CONFIRMED
>>65512768
t. shitpost
>>65512768
Be more specific. Which albums do you find boring?
>>65512579
wow what.cd members are assholes
what the fuck is the point of not sharing it at least to all members on the site?
>>65512768
You say that and you don't even have dubs
>>65512768
Never bored by it except maybe that gothic country record they put out. Usually I'm waiting on each and every note. I guess I could probably listen to their discog on repeat until I found it boring though. Guess I just haven't got to that point. Hopefully I never do.
>>65512774
i know that you're in the midst of a hype-thread i love that feeling. i remember feeling the same way when the seer and TBK leaked.
>>65512798
white light, love of life, greed, holy money, some of COG, most of the great annihilator
i still love filth, cop, sftb, and the seer though
>>65512841
checkem
>>65512718
Try reading before replying, retard.
>>65512889
newfag spotted
>>65512838
because they're neets who do nothing but sit around on wcd and they resent people who actually go outside instead
>>65512838
It could be a number of reasons.
It might be an indirect rip and not up to quality standards to be uploaded.
Maybe the person shouldn't be sharing it (could be traced to the source) and is sharing it on forums for brownie points. Mind you the percentage of users that are elite is very small.
>>65512904
>he reply to my may may so he new
No.
>>65512889
got 'em
the feel said around 20 mins of cloud of unknowning sounds like a kid added it in or sang it
The World Looks Red / The World Looks Black is so damn groovy
>>65512913
literally
Dumb fegs in here talkin and jerkin off when we could be raiding Young God Records for the last two tracks.
>>65512950
Definitely the best of the six imo.
>>65512931
Got what? Again, try reading, only this retard >>65512679 was fooled.
>>65513036
and he keeps feeding
>>65513036
damn...
>>65512290
How many invites are you allowed to give at any given time?
>>65512746
I am not an idiot my friend . Please do not call me one. I simply would like to wait until my copy of the record arrives at my door.
>>65513088
many. especially to those who achieve dubs
please give me a what.cd invite please please i need it so bad please give me an invite i'll seed with my bitcoiner miner rig please i neeeeeeed that invite so much
>>65513136
I got one winging its way to you senpai don't worry I got u.
>>65513036
I've already got 2 accounts friendo lol. I couldn't care less.
>>65513136
sent ;)
>>65513113
Like this?
>>65512718
can i have one
[email protected]
>>65513245
Roll
pathetic
>>65513245
Rolling
God the piano sections scattered throughout the world looks black are so fucKING GOOD. I love how legit scary and loud they sound
how does mickey g always kill it
>>65513216
I hear you got them invites.
[email protected]
>>65513312
sent ;)
>>65513349
sent ;)
So, I fell asleep last night. What exactly happened? How much of this album leaked? How much of it is in a high quality
>>65513366
>>65513377
sent ;)
>>65513395
The first six tracks leaked. All six are in 320 kbps
>>65513417
thanks friend
What do you think pitchfork will give it? What about Fantano?
>>65513470
my digits decide the score, and fantano will give it his obligatory 10/10 for the year
>>65513470
this question isn't worth caring about
>>65513470
I seriously wonder if Pitchfork will let the whole rape debacle affect their scoring/review.
>>65513531
It's the only thing that matters
>people are unironically listening to this leak without the last two tracks
kill yourselves, all of you
>>65513512
actually I don't think Fantano is going to dig it that much, its not as punchy and balls-to-the-wall as TBK
>>65513470
9.3 but maybe only a 8.3 because of the allegations
strong 9 or maybe a 10 who knows
>>65513596
I've got the last two tracks and I can say those listening without them aren't missing much
>>65513596
It's literally fucking 1hr and 18 minutes of music even without the final 2 tracks, more than enough to warrant a listen
>>65513626
gimme please!
>>65513596
Waiting for the last two is fucking torture.
>>65513626
I know this is b8, but PLEASE somebody put us out of our misery.
>>65513626
Did you get them from What.cd?
>>65513596
I can listen to the other two tracks when they come out as some sort of EP. Implying I give a shit.
>>65513653
ye I was in the IRC with the "elite" member
>>65513717
okay you blew your cover here
which tracks are missing?
giras lyrics in frankie m are kinda weird tbhh i dont like his voicew
>>65513727
last two
>>65513717
Damn i haven't set up the IRC chat on my computer yet. Can you ship me the deets?
>>65513669
>when they come out as some sort of EP
They're part of the main album you dip
>>65513727
"The Glowing Man" and "Finally, Peace."
>>65513717
What would it take for you to zippy them?
WHICH TRACK IS BLACK HOLE MAN THO
>>65513736
butterfly!
My dad works for Swans, he say's he'll leak the last two tracks when he gets home.
>>65513780
MDM
...
A
>>65513779
the missing one
>>65513774
dubs
>>65513815
Okay then.
>>65513797
My wife's son is Mr. Swan, he'll leak the next two albums if you roll a double in this itt bread.
>>65513779
"Black Hole Man" was renamed to "The Glowing Man" which is one of the missing tracks unfortunately.
>>65513834
FUCK
I feel like I'm bored with Swans now.
>>65513815
here u go ;)
Swans - The Glowing Man
>https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/swans/the_glowing_man/
>missing the last two tracks, 6 tracks leaked on soulseek
>no this is not a virus you silly poopy it's just an archive format and the filename is generated automatically by the uploading service in this case a pomf clone
https://ln.steamy.moe/zttwyc.tar.xz
>Track length
>25:13
Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm already 2 minutes into this song and they're still tuning their instruments
>>65513932
go back to /v/ lmfao
>>65513932
>being this new
and they are coming to mY COUNTRY SOON AND IM STILL BROKE FUCK
>>65513941
Correction, 4 minutes in and still NOTHING has happened
This is fucking sad
This doesn't make the song more "epic", it's see through try hard "DUDE LOOK HOW LONG THIS IS LMAO"
This ambient shit is painful, why I'll never see in concert again.
>>65513993
Oh wow, finally SIX MINUTES INTO THE SONG and a fucking riff has started to be played
>when the drop hits in when will I return
UUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhh FucKKKKKkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Anyone know if real?
>>65514016
Honestly dude. There's a reason why it's called drone. If you don't like it, cool.
Don't bitch about it here it's annoying.
last two tracks when
>>65514016
Get some patience fuk
>>65511492
gonna be honest. It's really boring. Swans has stagnated and this is their worst yet. Gira is getting old i guess
>>65514016
this is the best song actually
you're a pleb plain and square
>>65514016
>>65513993
>>65513932
trout ass nigga baka get out of here
>>65514072
yeah, two years back he released a masterpiece
but now he is getting old.
>>65514072
What do you mean getting old he was old like 10 years ago.
To those who have listened to the album so far:
What's your track ranking?
>>65514037
SSJ8 IS NOT REAL GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE ROCCO BOTTE
>>65513739
Just download hexchat dipshit
>>65514037
yuka puka
>>65514113
The Glowing Man > Finally, Peace. > Everything else
>>65514136
Yeah but where the deets at?
>>65514037
Yeah, it's preserved in digital digital digital... forever.
>>65514151
Funny guy
>>65514188
Dubs confirm funny
>>65514113
The Glowing Man > Frankie M > Cloud of Unknowing > Cloud of Forgetting > Finally Peace > When Will I Return? > The World Looks Red/The World Looks Black > People Like Us.
>>65514151
Kek.
Seriously though, I really like the first two tracks, Cloud of Unknowing has got to be my favorite though. Frankie M falls in third place and maybe When Will I Return in last. Looking forward to the title track though. And they usually pull a good closer, so that too. Pretty solid so far. As a final send-off, I'm sure a lot of people will find it disappointing though. Honestly, it's Swans doing Swans, delivering music as only they can.
>>65514161
that's it, it's not s00per 1337 haxx0r chat
just stay away from rizon, that's where the skiddies and autists hang out
IS IT BETTER THAN TO BE KIND AND/OR THE SEER??? TELL ME BITCHES
>>65514247
About on par so far, maybe a little weaker depending upon which facet of their sound you favor. Definitely not as hard as TBK or the heavier moments on The Seer, definitely bigger on atmosphere.
>>65514247
it's the same
>>65514247
little more extended gira moanings
if you like gira saying SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN in bring the sun you'll enjoy yourself
>>65514228
I've been using the irc for months friendo.
>listening to incomplete leaks
sure is summer
>>65513470
Pitchfork 8.4
Fantany strong 7 light 8
>>65514411
>sure is summer
Nice digits, but this isn't /b/, nobody says that kind of shit around here, at least not that I've seen in quite a while.
There's already like an hour and a half of material leaked. There's more than enough to digest.
>>65514359
then why do you need help nigger
>it's a Gira moans over a repetitive riff for 10+ minutes after in between a boring drone intro/outro song
Glowing Man > The World Looks Red / The World Looks Black > Frankie M > everything else.
The Seer > The Glowing Man > To Be Kind
>>65514427
something is causing the summerfags to migrate here because shitposting has increased 200%
>>65514448
I can't read
>>65514463
Why are you even in this thread?
>>65514477
Damn, again with the digits. Alright, I haven't noticed, but I've been a bit busy lately. You might be right.
>>65514476
No way is TGM better than TBK.
Does the album have a similar sound to Just a Little Boy? Because that was my favourite track from TBK.
Time to pack it up boys. Last two tracks will never be leaked. Fuckin Gira bein a lil bitch bout it.
>listening to incomplete records
Y'all the type of niggas that watch movies for the first time on cable channels
>>65514443
It's not about having an hour and a half, it's about not having the last half an hour
>>65514485
Oh sorry don't report me pls
I have the final two tracks.
>>65514512
The shorter tracks have some groovy moments if that's what you mean. But nothing on the same level as Just a Little Boy imo.
>>65514522
>implying I want to sit down and listen to 2 hours of drone
I prefer it this way, easier to digest
>>65514539
But what else do you think you're signing up for with a Swans album?
>>65514487
>>65514477
the whole summer thing was proven false by moot. there's no increase in traffic over the summer
Last two tracks still haven't leaked? What's the quality of the leaked tracks thus far?
>>65514595
All six tracks are in 320 kbps
>>65513626
If you actually had them you'd realize how fucking stupid this post is.
>>65514588
shut up summerfag
>>65514609
Nice. Mad hype.
>>65513993
You're probably 11 and-or autistic. Please delete this album and remove yourself from this thread.
Pitchfork 8.0 no BNM, citing how it was a good time to end this era of the band as the sound is no longer progressing
>>65514527
upload them
Why do people think this or to be kind is good ? They are literally the same rehashed concept from The Seer. There's nothing innovative.
>>65513626
>it's a "pleb tries to defend his pleb shit by lying" post
How does what you guys have heard compare to TBK or The Seer?
>it's been hours and the last two tracks still haven't leaked
how is this possible?
>>65514652
that's what they always did though, they make 2 or 3 albums with the same sound and then move on
>>65514680
The leak came from one single source
He realized he was sharing on accident, then stopped before person could dload last 2 tracks
Thats that
>>65514676
Better than TBK.
>>65514654
but tbk and the seer arent really that similar in atmosphere desu
>>65514535
I'm talking more along the lines of atmosphere and that creeping dynamic of the song. Oh well, I'm sure I'll still enjoy it.
>>65514703
so the rumors of "elite" members of what.cd having them are false?
>>65514680
>>65514703
>>65514724
There are a few people who got it from What or Soulseek in full, but none of them are sharing.
>>65514654
TBK sounds nothing like The Seer dude wtf
>>65514654
TRILOGY
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>>65514676
The questions been asked and answered a bunch of times itt matey, check it out. Most people seem to think they're all about on par, I'd have to agree with that. Still waiting on the final two tracks though.
>>65514720
Ah, gotcha. Well I hope you do man!
>>65514712
Figured this would be the case
>>65514737
This comment reeks of shit but I'm interested
>>65514737
fucking assholes
literally what is the point of what/slsk if you don't share?
>>65514758
I just like to digest the albums in full. Like. Imagine listening to The Seer without A Piece of the Sky and Apostate. The album would feel so empty.
>>65514772
so you can pretend you're better than other people
you didn't actually think wcd is for sharing did you?
Who is the backing vocals on Frankie M?
>>65514772
They could be lying, but they really should just leak that shit already.
>>65514772
The point of what is epenis.
Your right about the slsk though, they should be sharing it.
>>65514792
>Imagine listening to The Seer without A Piece of the Sky and Apostate
Don't you mean Seer and Seer Returns?
>>65514824
Ayyy lmao. Even better point.
>>65514824
when he starts fucking singing congolese or some shit at the end of the seer desu so good
>>65514792
No I totally feel you man, I'll admit to be a little overzealous. I was kind of banking on the other two tracks leaking in the hour and a half it takes to listen to the first six. Oh well. Sure they'll come around soon enough and I'll give the whole thing a proper listen.
>>65514889
The lyric sheet says its (indecipherable obscenities)
>>65514802
annie clark
8 minutes into "The World Looks Red / The World Looks Black" is the first part of the album I've enjoyed so far
HALLO SPEAKER MAN
>>65514940
Not him, but really? i know she did most of the female vocals in TBK, im happy for her if that's true. Hopefully (although unlikely) she will also release a more no wavey album since she already tested the waters with grot a few years ago.
>>65515047
No it's not her.
>>65515047
I don't think it's actually her anon. In any case, I wouldn't call Grot no wave. Loved the shit out of it though and was hoping that would be the direction of her self-titled. Unfortunately not.
>>65514985
Best song on the album that isn't Glowing Man.
>>65515080
>>65515090
oh well
yes, i know it's not exactly no wave but it's close. Sadly she might end up releasing another art pop/rock album, which is fine, but iwould prefer something a bit harsher
>>65515090
Yeah, Grot was closer to noise rock and sludge metal than it was to no wave.
>>65515155
>>65515188
Dubs speak the truth. Didn't know she was already working on a follow up, have there been any new songs she's been performing live? And for sure, sludge is the first thing that comes to mind when I listen to it.
who else /notgonnalistentoashittyincompleteleak/ here
>>65515330
It's not shitty but it is incomplete. I'm going to go to bed soon and when I wake up there'd better be a leak or Mr Gira will be hearing from me.
>>65515330
Here senpai. Only in the thread to wait for the next two tracks to leak.
>>65515330
Do you also not listen to singles?
>>65515425
that's different you autist
>>65515330
Here's a (you) cause I'm right there with you.
>>65515441
No it's not.
It's like watching an entire full scene from a movie before seeing it in full
>>65515457
More like watching an extended trailer.
>>65515482
Uh, a single is not a "trailer" it's a "scene" from the movie
A sampler is a trailer
>>65515503
Ur a sampler
>>65515330
reporting in
>>65515533
Im listening to new Swans album while u sit there NOT listening cuz ur a lil pussy ;)
>>65515563
you're not listening to a Swans album, you're listening to approx. two thirds of a Swans album.
>>65515503
its the most popular scene in a plotless movie
We're about to hit the bump limit but fuck making another thread again. We're not getting any closer to a full leak.
>>65511740
I hope you're feeling better anon :(
I just took a leak, how was it?
>>65515639
They really need to increase the bump limit on Mu to 500
>>65515287
Nah, in fact she hasnt played live since around july 2015 I think it was, she said she needed a break after nearly two years of touring but she also said that she had started writing songs back in summer 2015, i expected her to release an album at the begining of this year but no luck.
I think another anon said something about her making a single concert this june or july to raise money for her drummer's son who had some kind of health problem iirc
>>65514772
the few people who have the final 2 tracks are refusing to share because they're watermarked and it will get people into trouble
not like it fucking matters at this point though lmfao
>>65515903
Yea Gira might just put the album out digitally to combat the leak at this point.
>>65514092
Kek
>>65515942
No he won't.
>>65515973
Okay Gira
>>65515994
>oh snap, I'll show him!
Okay you fucking retard, explain why he would do that when he's never done it before?
>>65516018
Bjork had never done it before either yet she did with Vulnicura.
>>65516046
And Gira isn't Bjork, and he gets pissed about leaks. Hell, he gets pissed about people sharing the fundraiser albums.
>>65515330
ye dog
>>65516018
for the ments
can I have some (you)'s me boys
feeling pretty left out desu
NEW THREAD
>>65516094
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>>65516093
Fuck (you)
The guy s posts above me should kill himself
>>65516093
make better posts.. posts with substance that people want to reply to, instead of begging you shit head.
>>65516018
u mad bro?
>>65516093
(you) jelly of my (you)'s?
