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Beginner information and FAQ:
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Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/
Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php
String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/
Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>http://youtu.be/umY5NBKg5AA?list=PLcm7Ag6Q-OkZAmlY6dAhS2ZL9TUMeRZdI [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar
Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav
Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/
ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/
JACK Tutorial for Linux audio production
>http://libremusicproduction.com/articles/demystifying-jack-%E2%80%93-beginners-guide-getting-started-jack
>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg
Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
Old thread: >>65356123 →
Reposting new guitar
What do yall think
>>65369510
>humbuckers on a strat
why?
So...only reason I can think for not getting one of these is what a hassle setting up the intonation all over again every single time i want to change the tunings for the 3rd bridge harmonics. kinda think it will be worth it though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QytsbQVVuTM
>>65369510
I'd put it in my butt
>>65369585
You only have to set the bridge up once. Also, does anyone have a closeup of a jazzmaster switch for reference? I realized I actually have a few options in terns of how I shape the holes for these suckers. Even better, if someone has a caliper and a jazzmaster...
>>65369585
every time he presses down a fret he's bending 1/2 strings creating microtones. sounds shit
Friendly reminder: the kiddies who post in /gg/ threads have nearly ***zero*** experience concerning guitar. Playing, repair, new player recommendations, etc. The average age in these threads is around early 20s: green as shit grass.
If you have an actual question this is probably one of the most uninformed & least knowledgeable places you could ever expect a proper answer to come from.
Be weary of any advice given here as it's amateur & perfunctory at best.
Have a nice day.
>>65369437
This is taking longer than i expected. Also not having a work bench fucking sucks
>>65369693
Why are you mad?
>>65369684
Yeah at some points it just sounds like a badly setup chorus, doesn't seem really worth the hassle to me.
>>65369746
Fuck forgot pic
>>65369653
hmmm, what makes you say that? user reviews seem to indicate that any setup for infront of the bridge intonation is gonna be effected by behind the bridge settings. or maybe i was just reading speculation.
>>65369684
sounds great to me?
>>65369746
Suck it up soldier. Or, a kitchen countertop van suffice.
So, I've realized the jazzmaster switches are sight to the inner perimeter of the switch, no extra room. However I think it could be a cool effect, as well as giving me more room for error, to cut it slightly larger so that the chrome of the switches shows. While that'd give me some wiggle room, it'd also necessitate very sharp work to look good. Thoughts?
>>65369437
you faggot i was gonna do harry potter edition
>>65369804
Probably speculation. I see no reason the intonation should change. They are probably misinterpreting how the system works.
>>65369887
I'll have to ask the seller.
This is pretty great too as a six string. personally i love the 12 string sounds, but this one has an interesting fretboard too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dWvDZGua6s
>>65369693
you forgot that most of these posters are poorfags in college and don't have taste because they can't afford it yet
>>65370015
i wonder how many of these were produced
>>65370121
dunno, the prices have nearly doubled with the new models. i'm looking at buying secondhand one of the older 12 string models right now. the new ones look pretty great though. the more i think about the weird Harmonic Isolator instrument the more I kinda prefer it though? Don't know how often the older cheaper models will show up secondhand.
https://vimeo.com/166485499
>>65369826
just buy a chorus pedal?
>>65370188
Their Reso Harp is pretty incredible looking and sounding too.
https://vimeo.com/166485496
>>65369437
So just out of curiosity, I removed the knobs off my bass and one of them came out with the peg. Is fixing this as simple as lining it up and pushing it in or do I have bigger problems?
>>65370227
its not the chorus that is interesting about these guitars though,
>>65370304
then what is it?
>>65369585
>>65370015
>>65370188
>>65370259
wtf did I miss? Has /GG/ jumped the shark?
>>65370346
the harmonic resonance section, that you can tune independently, and amplify/mix independently etc.
this explains how it works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaxPhkx-JYo
>>65370378
nah, we'll return to posing about strings and squires soon enough
>>65370378
just some memer postin' mememachines gooby
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0U13uRH4nLz yo does anyone recognize this melody? i think i heard it on some big band album and the saxes were playing this part
Do anyone here thinks that a flying V is good?
>>65370912
yes
>>65370273
It should fit back in fine. I would try to remove the knob first so hopefully it is less likely to occur again. If it keeps falling out you might have to crimp it or something.
>>65370912
House was never wrong.
This is what I'll be filing for the next hour.
Fender and Gibson fags unite!
>>65371019
did you shoot your guitar?
>>65371084
Don't have them all in pic but I have a V and a Mustang
>>65371142
Looks like your shirts rack is falling
>>65371196
I didn't know Europoor couldn't even afford closets. Pitty
what guitar is best for me?
i play fuzz-noise-indie-rock shit
>>65371132
yep
>>65371238
Get sometihng versatile, modded mustang, jazzmaster or jag etc. theres alot more than fender too.
>>65371227
its clearly in front of a closet....
>>65371246
on purpose?
>>65371227
Closet is behind the rack, look closer.
Here's the V I'm also thinking about getting a Gibson SG Classic
>>65371298
Replacing the Vs pups with a Lollartron in the neck and Lollar Imperial in the bridge. Here's my last pic of the Mustang
>>65370912
v's are fine, it's Deans >we hate
>>65370912
>>65371298
Yes, unless the legs are uneven where ones longer and the other is shorter
>>65371246
why would you do that
>>65371227
>tfw american with no closet
life is hard guys
>>65371420
>tfw american with no basement or attic
i still react with confusion when i'm at someone else's house and they actually have a basement
>tfw no gibson cobra burst les paul
I guess only tone attorneys allowed ;____;
>>65371420
>>65371446
>tfw also dwelling challenged
>>65371446
That's rough, basements are the best places to jam and hang out
>>65369633
stealing the name huh?
word.
>>65371257
thanks man
I'm getting good at this. Just the sides so far.
>>65370436
lol wtf
>>65371687
>jelly poorfag
les pauls, strats, telecasters and firebirds disgust me
1 down
In case that guy is still here
Here's the locks I apparently lost for my "broken" guitar...
And I remember when people used to steal my clan tag in mw2 when i mollywoped them..same shit happenin here lol I guess butthurt kids never change
When changing strings on a floyd rose, there's no problem with going one at a time, right? I don't have a trem stopper nor do I have any way to stabilize the bridge, so changing one string at a time is really my only option.
>>65371142
I see the closet. Is that where the milkshake station is?
Opinions on Ibanez RG outside of shred/metal/buttrock?
>>65372070
Just do what I do and jam a screwdriver in the bridge.
>>65369437
Really want to put a whammy on my Danelectro DC59, what's my best option. It has the shit wood bridge like in pic related.
>>65372127
well shapes don't dictate sound but ok. i don't like RG necks. they are too flat
>>65372166
sweet space dildo you got hangin on the wall there
>>65372166
It's hard to imagine anything you do as a good idea.
>>65372166
cringe
>>65372208
its the shit that hangs from your graduation cap. we all got a second one with the year on it. theres a necklace i got from a vip package at a morbid angel concert hanging from it too.
>>65372177
a bigsby would be the easiest
God there's this guy at my local Craigslist thing who keeps trying to sell "energy mirrors" and all kinds of shit for 3000€. Everything he writes is in broken German and sounds like the ramblings of a madman. He's also trying to sell ancient studio gear for several k now, and a guitar stand for 1600€. I'd love to screen cap that shit but it's all in German.
>>65372244
i mean, it works.
>>65372177
It looks like you could put anything you want there, but the easiest to install is generally a bigsby type. They're made for gentle vibrato, you can't dive bomb with them. Another hard to mess up type is the jaguar trem. It requires body routing though.
How to samba, bros
Where should I put the next switch, /gg/? 1 or 2? There will be three switches in total evenly spaced. If I choose position 2 there will be more space between them.
SHIT
>>65372127
Probably the most versatile of any guitar (as are most HSH superstrats, I mean)
Would be kind of funny, or maybe even pleasant, if they made one with a thicker-than-a-50s-Les-Paul neck though
GODDAMN IT
>>65372634
>>65372670
nigger, what the fuck are you doing?
>>65372670
bro what the fuck
im searching a black player with sunglases playing a rockish blues solo in a flying v tipe of guitar
not albert king
WHO IS?
>>65371371
I have deans. They're aight.
>>65372279
>he graduated high school
la de fucking da
>>65372738
Albert King
>>65372738
lead singer for the gories
>start learning guitar
>discover it's actually really easy
why did no one ever tell me?
>>65372829
i wasnt bragging or anything i was explaining what the "space dildo" was
god you sound like an awful cunt.
>>65372070
That's how i do it. Just find it easier. I do 6th, 3rd, 5th, 2nd, 4th, 1st. Mostly because that's how the strings are packaged. Wipe the fingerboard while the string is off. When i first got a fr, i went to take the strings off, i got the heavy 3 off and the high e snapped. Then the b. Didnt realize the tension went to them. Live n learn...
>>65372738
jaime hendricks
>>65372829
>>65372963
i thought that shit was only for uni
Just finished my stereo plate reverb build:
https://soundcloud.com/electrospinner/plate-reverb-test-4
fixed
>>65373001
sweet ant farm
>>65372244
It's handy, because i usually have a screwdriver. In my butt.
>>65372949
>>65372953
nope
He plays without moving almost, and bends a lot
>>65372958
let's hear it if it's so easy
>>65373001
>cutting the wood to save the pickguard
anon what the fuck, just buy a different pickguard and try again
>>65373029
ayyyyyyyyyyy
whats up
>>65372963
you think your better than me?
>>65372999
Pretty neat comrade.
>>65372999
Plate reverb is best reverb. What surface transducer did you use?
>>65373087
his arms are really fucking lanky
Is the agile 3100 significantly better than an epi lp standard? I've heard both ways. Also recommendations for a used amp under $220 for rock/alt/indie?
>>65373001
what on earth are you doing
>>65373072
...What... It's free to cut the wood. Also, that's actually where I want the switch.
>>65372958
Shhh. It's a fuckin secret. Just tell everyone it's hard. Say you learned in a dream you had. Or you sold your soul to satan or something.
>>65373087
something like that
>>65373034
Lenny Kravits probably
>>65373048
Not saying I'm a master or anything, just that I've made a lot of progress in only a couple weeks and it's not that challenging to practice or learn. And I only practice about 15 minutes a day
>>65373142
THATS IT!
ITS GO TIME!
>>65373100
I chopped off the cone from a cheap 4ohm desktop speaker and epoxied a wooden nub directly to the end of the coil tube.
>>65373156
>I only practice about 15 minutes a day
you're going to fit right in
>>65373106
You already asked and got answered. Check the archive.
>>65373162
thats a great episode
>>65373154
no
please help
>>65373106
keep in mind youll get epiphone warranty if anything should go wrong.
>>65373074
Heey. Nah man, just playin. Seemed like u were getting a following.
>>65373100
>>65373170
The whole project is DIY - hardware store-grade.
>>65373171
given how much I've been able to absorb with so little effort, I can't imagine how much progress someone could make while actually putting a reasonable amount of time in
>>65373228
I built a Metallik Resonating Diffuser amp, and to try out different mounting spots before drilling into the gong I proto'd on a 24 x 24 piece of sheet metal. I turned that into a lo-fi plate reverb.
>>65373222
its alright b
i just have the name up to avoid the confusion the other thread had.
im not trying to cause salt here everyone
although i pretty much deserve it for the stickers. i dont know why i havent taken them off my electrics yet.
>>65373181
shhhhh bb is okay, I need more advice and (Yous)
I'll check though
>>65373248
That pretty much goes for everything. Unless you are mentally retarded, i guess....are you mentally retarded?
Needed to take a little more out... Still more to come.
>>65373316
Here is a little a/b clip of the proto as Metallik Resonator with ribbon synth into it. First is the ribbon synth direct into interface, then through mic'd Metallik Resonator.
There are no contact mics on the sheet metal in this clyp, but you can still hear that great reverb that it has
https://clyp.it/j01n4j4q
>>65373316
I toyed with the idea of bolting the wooden nub directly to the sheet, but it seems to transfer the sound just as effectively when it's just barely pressed against the surface.
The position was chosen by the completely scientific and not at all arbitrary method of "measure 2/3'ds of the way across, then back off two inches."
>>65373672
And here is the ribbon synth into the sheet metal as plate reverb. no wet/dry blend this is all wet from contact mic.
https://clyp.it/guick1fh
much better
>>65373732
yeah, much better
>>65369561
More like why not. Also there are 2 split coil switchable pickup configurations
>>65370436
I want one
>>65372738
BUMPPPPP
>>65373709
I was ending up attaching the resonator to a gong, so i had to choose a flat section of it. Using the sheet metal as plate reverb it sounds best mounted dead center.
I'm using a 50 watt amp to drive this surface transducer, which is about perfect for getting a 22" gong to resonate and be a loud amp....on this 26 gauge sheet metal it would set it right the fuck off haha. Turned out to sound pretty nice on its own, it blooms really pretty and when pushed you get that thunder sound of shaking sheet metal. Here's that ribbon synth into it again, i kinda slide around so you can hear how different frequencies excite it. I tried to keep it from going nuts till the end. I'm playing The Persephone ribbon synth into it.
https://clyp.it/mcgun1zo
>>65373792
>wanting a mememachine
ya dun goofed gooby
>>65373785
fuck all the people who say you cant have hums on a strat.
you do you brother.
>>65373898
>>65373898
Would not want a mememachine in the usual sense, would get an SG or a strat with those inlays
Playing bass is fun. But practice (rhythm and technique) is not. How do I stay motivated and stop myself from just having fun when I need to practice?
>>65373975
i'd get fuck this gay earth and have poo bears soul float up to the nut
>>65374070
Forcing yourself sounds awful
>>65373901
I want a HH 22-fret flame maple top Strat with a Floyd. Every thing a Strat isn't but I want it.
>>65374073
That'd be pretty cool, specially if someone intepreted it in an artistic way like Steve Vai's Tree of life inlays.
>>65374115
Well, it's the only way I'm moving forward at the moment. And it's not like I'm shitty and have bad rhythm or technique, both are decent but to learn now things or to improve further is incredibly tiresome.
God I'm good
>>65369790
refretting or making a fretless?
New family pic, welcoming the new (to me) S470.
I'd like to say I have theme, but I'm just incredibly boring.
>>65369510
>>65373785
Like it a lot
>>65361806
Nice, thanks for the link.
I'll try to find a clever way not to drill too much or at all, to make it as much of a sleeper as possible, maybe I'll use a stacked tone knob I have around unused.
>>65363314
That was another guy.
I did post about my deal but mine was just a cheap S470 kept in incredibly mint condition.
>>65373721
Sounds like a whale or something. Cool.
>>65374572
why the epiphone sg
Why is this pickguard so aesthetic?
>>65374609
First guitar I bought when I moved away (left the ones from highschool, not pictured here, back at home).
Never got rid of it and now it serves as a project tool. Waiting for new electronics and pup.
>>65372127
love em, but I prefer flat/thin necks despite large/average hands
>>65369838
If it's visible, then your lines are reaaally going to show. Go for it if you've got a steady hand and some tools you trust. Replacement pickguards aren't that expensive anyway.
>>65372670
dude did you not practice on shit wood before taking power tools to your instrument?
>>65373028
kek
>>65372999
>>65373672
>>65373721
Fuck yes, both of these sound awesome. I have a really shitty old crash that I plan on necromancing into a really shitty plate reverb or maybe a weird speaker in it's own right. some day. 1st guy, did you make the 4 string guitar too?
>>65373897
So it takes more wattage to drive the gong then the sheet metal?
>>65372127
Love them to death.
Incredibly comfy, versatile, good looking in many configurations and funny/dumb in many others, easy to mod, easy to take care, trem is better than cheap licensed FRs, non trem versions are solid af, well built, etc.
Also, it's such a common tool, even if seen as a metal to buttrock tier guitar, I see it used by every kind of band in every kind of genre.
I think people that play them live just switch to other brands one they start making an image of themselves and want something that fits the mold.
>>65374455
nice job, anon!
Paint is still too soft to sand and add clear coat!
>>65374693
Interesting, I was wondering about buying an epiphone sg and putting new pups and maybe pots but the sgs they have dont come in the finish i want so i wont bother
>>65374845
Yep, and it's actually only a 3-string. Open 5th tuning.
>>65374901
Lookin' good yourself. Finally done. Now to shield and add the mounting screw holes.
>>65373897
I kinda had the EMT 140 in mind as a model, and they placed the transducer toward one end of the plate to simulate a stereo image. between the pickups
***Threadly reminder to all Canadafriends***
On June 11th, Long & McQuade has a special offer, buy any set of strings and get your guitar setup for free. It's a $65+ value, and limited to one guitar per customer.
>>65375187
$65 for a setup?! still a neat deal I suppose though...
>>65372999
very neat
>>65374845
well, i didnt know what to expect, and I'm just going off the Eowave Metallik Resonator which i cant afford at $900. I figured out what brand resonator they used, and for the size Gong I was gonna use they also used a 50 watt amp.
Just to see if mounting location made much difference i proto on a piece if sheet metal. The issue with this 26gauge sheet metal, is quite thin compared to the gong, so when the resonator gets to pumping signal it starts to physically rattling the sheet metal haha. It's actually a pretty cool effect, distortion if you will. I bought two of the 50 watt resonators to build a couple different sized Metallik Resonator amps with. Im using a 50 watt solid state amp with the 22" gong and it gets way louder than I'll ever need, so no problems there. If I decided to keep using the sheet metal as a plate reverb, which sounds pretty awesome quite frankly, I'd look into a smaller and cheaper surface transducer along with a lower watt amp to drive it. For under a $100 bucks you can build a lo-fi plate reverb...not bad!
>>65375187
no thanks those people are horrible
>>65375238
yeah, but they at least do an extensive setup and even do a thorough cleaning and electronics check
>>65375310
eh, I've had nothing but good experiences with them, guess it depends on your location
>>65373344
I have one guitar i put stickers on. Looks like the guy from green day's old guitar. So, it's whatev. Probably too much effort to take them off.
Gonna apply glue to the backside of my pickguard, then place it down to adhere, then cut excess. Hopefully it works well.
>>65372999
I enjoyed this. +1
>>65375129
You did a great job, sounds really good!
Clamping the pickguard down.
>>65373162
MANDELBAUM
MANDELBAUM
MANDELBAUM
It's getting late so I'll probably stop once I've finished shielding the pickguard. BTW, I'm using Elmer's glue and aluminium foil.
>>65372177
don't cause you can do it all with your left hand
>>65374921
What kind of finish? They have satin and glossy versions. Unless you mean some NOS kind of look with like tv white, surf blue, etc.
>>65375732
you do it all with you left hand
>>65375710
how do you plan to solder onto the foil?
>>65375732
bend a whole F chord with your left hand for me
right now
>>65375756
i want a finish which is brown satin like in the gibson im already planning on buying
>>65375000
that's good shit man, respect
>>65375305
>physically rattling the sheet metal
Clipping the material, rad. I've been wanting to build myself a tube amp and know diving into the most complicated build without practice is a bad idea. Could be a good excuse to whip up bare bones model that wouldn't just sit on a shelf later.
>>65376035
Yeah, it sounds neat and is its own thing, but nothing like the gong when it gets to resonating...all sorts of color with the gong, just incredible. There isn't much color to a piece of sheet metal, but I was really happy with how well using it as a plate reverb turned out...havnt gotten around to sourcing a cheap resonator for it, or found an appropriate amp. I bought two Pyle 50 watt stereo amps with three 1/4" inputs for the Metallik Resonators, I think they were only $40 apiece.
Hooking contact mics to the gong is pretty nice too, real unique sound.
>>65375813
The pickguard will rely on physical contact with the cavity ground. The cavity ground will be soldered but the method isn't that easy to explain so I'll take pics when I do it.
>>65375930
you know what i meant you nigger
now bend a fucking barre chord
>>65375830
There is a brown satin.
>epiphone sg 400 worn brown
it's called.
>>65376258
>he can't bend a barre chord
laughing bitches.jpg
>>65376258
>he plays barre chords
>>65376185
actually the day the resonators got in, I still didn't have the gong yet or that sheet metal, so i found some scrap sheet metal in the garage and hooked it up. Turned out to sound pretty awesome, much thicker piece of metal than the sheet metal. I recorded it with a Placid Audio Carbonphone mic, so that added some additional filtering to the sound but you can hear it bloom all metallic. It was a lot of fun hooking the resonator up to other material too to use, like wood etc. Some literal wood tonez. anyways here's that first run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omvzqhr41vE
>>65375732
>Left hand
>Bending flat
What?
>>65376320
>he doesn't know how to prebend
>>65376320
Like this
https://youtu.be/dxwXkt_M_-g
>>65376369
>prebending
Bending from sharp to natural =/= bending flat.
>>65376393
>grasping at straws
>>65376393
C# -> C = Db -> C
kys
>>65376476
I'm gonna jump in and say that only applies to tempered instruments between hard intervals, musically it's not exactly right, so bends not being hard intervals (because you're not going between frets), it is actually indeed different, the interval is not exactly the same.
>>65376627
weak bait... It'd be nice if you could keep baiting to subjects that don't actually matter like what color a guitar should be.
I picked up the CG101. (I'm the guy from the last thread asking for advice on classical guitars)
Pretty good condition but it looks like the heel cracked at some point but was repaired. I measured the string action at the 12th fret, checked out pretty well, and the neck and body of the guitar were straight.
Been playing it for the last hour or so, and the fretboard is really wide. I mean I expected this, but the guitar I'm most used to is my Mustang, which has a narrow fretboard.
I'm still getting used to it but I like the CG101 so far.
Clyp using my laptop's mic: https://clyp.it/l3prca05
>>65376685
>he actually believes prebending a note and dropping the pitch is somehow different than dropping the pitch by pushing a whammy bar down
wew lad
>>65376752
Cool, let us know how it plays after you set it up.
>>65376914
It plays well. I don't know much about classical guitars though. I'm trying to get used to the fretboard.
Pic related
>>65376943
>firewood.jpg
>>65376752
>https://clyp.it/l3prca05
nice playing man
>>65377179
Thanks man
I made a lot of mistakes, though. I can play it perfectly on my Mustang but the classical guitar is a different beast. I'll record a better version once I get used to it. My hand started to hurt after an hour of playing, which has never happened before.
>>65375339
Luthier I usually go to does that for 20 bucks
J Mascis is a good man
>>65376267
don't sell them around my area
>>65377491
He is!
>>65376752
What song
>>65376752
Guy that gave advice here.
>platinum disco
Nice, did you figure it out by yourself or checked tabs/chords?
Enjoy your classical, they are super fun imo, nice fingering by the way, a bit more practice and it's gonna sound super comfy and tight.
>>65377530
That's a shame, they are incredibly good value for money.
>>65376752
>>65377626
>What song
Sounds good. Do you find that the nylon strings want to roll under fretting fingers? That was mein kampf for the short period where I had access to one.
>>65376280
>some of the best work includes barre chords
quit trying to feel like you're special
you're no Julian Lage
>>65372958
yeah the notes are tuned to make it easy to play chords.
>>65372958
Troll or not, learning guitar is actually really easy.
The problem with most is that they never bother to practice and learn basic theory.
A student that has been playing for 3 months and knows his chords and major and minor scales, will be miles ahead of a dude that just sits there for years and plays tabs of green day and metallica.
![B410-Acoustic-Amplification-1-600x630[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EHppINJ.jpg "B410-Acoustic-Amplification-1-600x630[1]")
• Power: 400 W Power
• Speaker: 4 x 10″ Heavy Duty Speakers, high-frequency with on/off switch
• Impedance: 8 Ohms
• Inputs: Parallel 1/4″ Input Jacks
One of these is selling for $150 at a local guitar shop. Is there a better bang for my buck deal than this??
>>65378435
Well, do you need it?
If you're gonna gig with it it seems alright on paper.
But do check quality and user experience, from forum reviews and so on.
If it's an impulse buy without a reason I don't see the point myself.
>>65378066
he'll also be .5% of the way to mastering guitar
>>65378492
You can master the guitar 100%?
>>65378492
Still .5% close than someone who only knows how to play master of puppets.
>>65378435
if the speakers are of adequate quality and it doesn't rattle like crazy then yes. guitar or bass? 10's sound weird on guitar, esp 4x10.
>>65374792
>dat finish
>dat mismatched headstock
>dat maple board
>dat lo pro
Color me jealous. I'm currently playing a 1992 rg570. I'm on the hunt for another 90's rg5xx with a lo pro so I have a backup buy I've noticed they've gone up the past couple Years.
>>65378779
Seen some good deals in normiebook and sevenstring org
They don't last long though, not rare for such good guitars at that price.
>>65370989
ten years after this aired I can now admit that it's the scene that motivated me to buy my first guitar
>>65377626
https://youtu.be/zNa6qDnaBQw
>>65377651
Thanks m8. I found it online, though I forgot where I downloaded it from. I kept it in a folder full of sheet music for anime songs dl'd from various sites so I lost track.
>>65377811
Nah, it's just that since I'm used to my Mustang's fretboard, my fingers end up in the wrong string (e.g., finger ends up in the 5th string when I intend it to go on the 6th, since it's where the 6th string would be if I were playing my Mustang)
So I got all the frets off. I'm taking the neck to work tomorrow so I can give it a rough sanding and apply the wood filler
how do the Epiphone SG's sound compared to Gibson's?
>>65378940
not same guy but wanna know this, especially the epiphone sg g400 pro
>>65378853
legit
>>65378938
nice way to get the most out of a squire. mine was a squire strat. it's still in my family's basement. my friend did the same thing only his was black while mine was metallic blue. it was later traded for molly, certainly in our favor.
>>65378871
Would you be so kind to upload the folder to mega, dropbox or something? I have a few touhou classical guitar transcripts myself if you're interested.
>>65378938
Are you gonna coat it in epoxy? or just fill and oil treatment?
>>65374921
Don't buy a new one. Buy a Chechz one of you're gonna buy Epiphone. There is a lot of cheap brands that are a lot better than Epiphone
>>65379231
I'm not sure yet. I have been taking this one step at a time and researching all my options. I'm pretty tired so I'll read about the next step tomorrow.
But if I get anything done I'll be sure to post pictures
>>65378940
>>65378957
Pick ups are different obviously, and the electronics too.
The SG 400 has epi alnicos, which I'm not sure how hot they are but they push well the overdrive, maybe it's their cheap construction but they are hot/dirty not in a bad way, just not that tame I guess. I wouldn't necessarily change them unless I was very picky, but a DP100 and PAF set would work wonders I bet.
The 490s in the Faded and Standard Gibson SG are a bit more clear, I guess maybe it's the output and better wiring.
The Gibson pots work well, but since they are passive they have the common drop off cliffs, first going from 10 to 8 it's nice calm, lower than 8 it starts to steal a lot of highs, and then at 4 or so it drops completely.
The SG 400s are sort of the same deal being passive too and I'm not sure if the pots are the same spec wise, but the drop is greater and there's not much you can do other than 10 or drop it somewhere basically.
>>65379251
For SGs? ESP LTD has the Viper but it's kinda funky looking and the cheap versions are absolute shit imo. The SG 400 and Standard options of Epiphone are well priced and a good deal.
>>65379308
That'd be cool.
>>65379413
Hey thanks for the info.
I personally like the 490r/t a lot so seeing how I'd modify an epiphone it might get to the point where its worth buying a gibson.
Are the SG pots better off replaced if I typically play with distortion?
Posting one last time, rate my boring guitars.
Got my edge stick. Satin neck, SD distortions and a pair of straplocks
is this any good
>>65380013
How are the new pro series Jackson?
They waited the longest time to re introduce mid budget guitar and I have to say they look pretty nice.
>>65369437
Well, I'm sorry to hear that...
>>65380010
i can appreciate a theme and they're probably really comfy/10
>>65380043
Can't play it until Sunday because I'm gone for uni stuff. FeelsBadMan
Will report back on sunday tho.
Sunn O))) the band was named after this amplifier brand
>>65380980
Your point?
>>65380980
>Sunn O)))
Didn't know about the band, knew about the amplifier brand. I'm surprised they didn't get sued.
>>65380980
nah they were named after the 1995 Earth album "Sunn Amps and Smashed Guitars"
>>65381190
Sunn wasn't fit to sue anyone at the end, went out of business in 02 and got bought by FMIC.
>>65379975
If you overdrive and run distortion I wouldn't change the pots at all, You get full distortion at 10 and that old school crunch if you put volume at 9-8.
>>65380010
How's the neck dive in the kelly? I've wanted one but it seems that no matter the year and version they all neck dive like a kamikaze.
>>65380013
Jelly
>>65381190
>>65381290
The band pretty much acts as an advert anyway.
I'm surprised FMIC didn't take advantage of that and release some Sunn reissues.
Speaking of big brands being dumb, I'm also surprised Gibson didn't take advantage of the whole 7/8 string phase and release some steinberger ergs.
>>65381524
There's a lot of potential in Steinbergers, like introducing some of the old body shapes and shit.
But for some reason Gibson is not interested in anything that isn't Gibson itself and it's traditional shit.
It's probably the CEO, he's known for making bad decisions.
what straps do you guys use
im thinking of getting a better one this poly one is hurting my neck and leaving like rash burns and shit
>>65381830
Leather.
>>65381880
any brand?
id like to not spend a bunch on it
like i guess 40-50 would be ok
>>65381830
I have no name leather and no name nylon or whatever it is that's not leather.
I only care about it being wide enough to not hurt my shoulder/neck.
If it's giving you a rash though, check a leather one, generic as it doesn't matter, just make sure the underside is clean, soft, and not painted or anything.
Or wash your textil one with some very hot water and some soap you know that doesn't affect you (like ph neutral bodysoap) and let it rest so that it comes off, there's maybe some chemicals or sweat or stuff kept in there that's giving you the rash.
>>65381757
>It's probably the CEO, he's known for making bad decisions.
Well they're not making any RDs either, even though people keep asking for them.
>>65381903
You can definitely get a good leather one for that price, just go to a guitar store and try for yourself.
>>65381830
Stop this shit.
>>65381969
2015, and other years like the ones that had midi controllers, the autotuners, and other weird shit just shows that they have no idea what to do, they are only kept afloat because people buy the traditional stuff and other gear or items with the brand name on it.
Such a shame, given that they could be way better.
>>65381830
I use a leather levys and it's pretty comfy and sturdy, but a bit heavy for a strap. I've seen /gg/ posters recommend couch straps too.
>>65381524
I 'm surprised Gibson never jumped on ERG's early when they had a chance.
But I'm not surprised Fender let Sunn go away, I've long suspected that they bought it on the cheap just to keep it out of the marketplace. Fender has enough SS amps in their catalog.
Decided to trade this off for another bass + some cash, try and guess what I'm getting /gg/!!
>>65381976
that's actually kind of impressive but i would be terrified of the strap breaking and that thing torpedoing into the crowd or just smashing on the ground
>>65382566
Hint: It has one less string, European!
>>65382483
>I 'm surprised Gibson never jumped on ERG's early when they had a chance.
They're doing some now, but they're keeping the 24.75" scale lenght, which makes them kinda pointless imo.
As for Sunn, they did some tube amps too, and despite being SS, the beta lead is pretty sought after too.
>>65382566
>>65382586
Warwick, since you're that guy with an 8 string schecter. Otherwise I would have said Sandberg.
>>65382839
*7 string Schecter
And bingo! A German made Warwick Thumb NT 5 bass, seriously excited!!
>>65382892
Sorry man I can't accurately remember every guitar in /gg/.
I can understand why. Heard warwicks were pretty heavy though, but they sound great.
>>65382892
Wait what, I thought a Warwick Thumb 5 was more valuable than the one you're trading in.
>>65382974
It is, I'm sending a bit of cash too. But he really wants a lefty 6 string so I got an aight deal. 6 was one too many for me.
>>65376943
>matching headstock
WHY DOES THIS MAKE MY DICK SO HARD HNNNNNNGGGG
>2016
>bending with your fingers individually
>not wobbling the guitar
wew lad
>>65376943
>>65377335
>>65383019
Is that Mustang originally come with a coloured headstock or did you just paint it to be like your waifu?
4 or 5 string bass?
>>65383160
4. It's not like you'll ever do anything complicated enough to require a 5th string.
>>65383160
5.
4 strings feel like a matchstick, and 5 aren't harder to play.
>>65383019
Bitch, red is the worst mustang color of all time. Looks genuinely tragic.
>>65377491
Too bad he's autistic
>>65383225
>posts a cream stang with a jewel red pickguard
>>65383255
That's tort.
Here's my 2010 American Standard Tele. I need to start playing it more. I usually just pick up my acoustic instead.
>>65383309
You can still practice acoustically on your Tele, it's not like you have to plug it into an amp every time.
>>65383356
Sounds bad though, zero sound
>>65381510
It dives all right.
The thing is, the exp shape means you have a big chunk of wood under your right arm. You just have to rest your hand on it and you'll never have any problems.
In my opinion, the exp shape is the comfiest I've ever played, you'll always find the one position that'll suit you, sitting or standing.
>>65376320
Don't you just push the neck forwards with the palm of your fretting hand?
>>65383006
Ah, I thought you meant he traded you the bass + extra cash to you, not extra cash from you. Makes sense.
Also damn, I'm jelly, I love warwicks and would really like a corvette 5 $$ or a Thumb 5.
>>65383498
True, it's probably one of the comfiest designs along with strat types.
>>65370912
for blues they're unbelievable
>>65383795
The V albert king played had 50s PAFs in it. The sound would not differ much from a les paul. I don't think the flying V really stand out for blues more than other humbucker guitars.
V=Firebird>SG>Les Paul
>>65371354
Did you refinish this guitar yourself? I like the color and I've thought about refinishing my Squier Mustang in some way but I'm not sure yet.
I wish I could find a replacement pickguard as well but no one makes the right size for them.
>>65383225
Candy apple red like that anon's mustang is at least more interesting than the original red. But I agree, I think for stock colors I like olympic white best. In the 70s the sunburst was pretty cool.
>>65384359
V=RD>SG>Firebird>LP
I don't like Gibsons though, scale's too short, price too high, and overall ergonomics are not adequate for me.
guys i have a concert in like 3 hours, playing this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8-tXG8KrWs
i can't make the solo sound right, i always miss notes or sound waaaaaaay too sloppy.
tips for improving?
>>65384432
Even if you miss a few notes, you'll sound fine if you fix it by improvising a bit over the solo scale.
>>65384432
actually practice instead of procrastinating
>>65384465
I did all afternoon and months before today, i just get pissed at how i hate this fucking song and literally can't seem to improve
I'm just not coordinate enough i think
>>65384484
Hm well yeah it is difficult to learn songs you dislike, although doing that seems to make you a better player.
I would say throw the original solo out the window and just figure out the scale and do your own thing with it.
>>65384507
wow that's really risky
I can't write solos for shit
>>65384430
I agree, we all know Gibson's prices are insane and most companies have already reached and surpassed their quality level.
I'd still save the V and Firebird, they only have a couple core models and you can get one for around $1200. They feel great to me personally.
Why do some people think the wood in an electric guitar makes the difference in sound? Are they just trying to rationalise post purchase?
>>65384527
Then stick with the original, play a chord or something if you mess up. It's wise to practice what you'll do if you mess up a bit.
>>65384659
The material of the neck can affect your playing and the weight of the wood could make it more cumbersome, but I agree that wood doesn't matter when it comes to electric tone.
>>65384659
There are some ways the sum of all parts of a guitar changes the tone. However it won't be consistent. These are called "wolf tones". They vary widely based on the shape and density of parts of the guitar. It isn't possible to tune all the wolf tones of a guitar. The wolf tones interact with the fundamental noticeably, and the harmonics barely measurably.
The other thing that the wood effects is the weight. This is simpler to understand. I won't get into defining the terms resonance and sustain. But a heavier guitar has more sustain and less resonance, and a lighter guitar has more resonance and less sustain. This is a function of weight, but since a guitar isn't isolated for the player, the player can change the sustain of a guitar slightly by the way they hold it.
The species of the wood does not affect these things. The fact that people consider maple bright and mahogany dark goes to prove that the traditional tonal differences people ascribe are inaccurate. Most tonal differences are a result of different trends in fender and gibson manufacturing. For example, at around the same time fender switched from alder to ash telecasters, they also changed the pickup design. The change caused by the pickups was credited to the wood.
Which usually has more output with the same DC resistance, a p90 or a single coil(magnetic pole pieces)?
>>65384965
I don't know about the difference when resistance is equal, but p90s generally are wound with more resistance anyway. I'm interested in which has more output when wound the same as well.
>>65383255
LILLIE A TSUNTSUN
>>65381830
Dimarzio Cliplocks.
Seatbelt material is comfy and looks nice.
>>65384835
Basically association bias where people think that A -> B when they are both unrelated scenarios.
Interestingly I own basswood guitars mostly and I find their sustain pretty good despite being lighter.
>>65385513
It seems to me single note sustain is fairly similar between light and heavy guitars, but chords ring out longer on heavy guitars. I've never been able to verify that though. If anyone's got the will to set up such an experiment like the one here, but with only one string, I'd be interested in the result.
http://youtu.be/KTKfHkHZ6qQ
Obviously there are easier ways to do this than his rig.
>>65385618
>>65385513
None of this even really matters if you play through an amp, though. Not enough sustain? Buy a compressor.
Wood type matters so little, just play whatever is comfortable for you.
Fuck, this finish is purdy.
http://www.music-man.com/pdn/starry-night
For the anon that wanted a Memesty without the inlays, the ebony fretboards won't have any inlays for this run. Now you only need to sell a kidney and you can own Pucci-senpai's mememachine.
>>65385618
Interesting, it would be necessary to match pickups, pickup height, strings, string gauges since they would affect too.
Lots of work for that experiment.
>>65385655
I agree, there's so much snek oil salesman going on regarding tonewoods.
>>65385655
That's exactly what I think, who cares about the physical part of an electrical instrument besides for look and playability ?
>>65385677
that looks a lot like Ibanez's Galaxy Black finish, which I really like.
Alder is the best tonewood
(Not really), but it has the best weight imo
>>65385677
Well, if one were to conduct that experiment, you'd use the same guitar, just add weights. That's the only way to be 100% certain. I JUST HAD A GREAT IDEA.
I really like my light weight guitar. But, maybe something I want to do calls for a heavier, less resonant tone. What if I add a bolt to the back of my guitar, so I can attach and detach a 5 pound weight as needed? Sure, it's weird as fuck, but it would a pretty interesting experiment... I'm trying to think of a way now to make it so that when the weight is detached the back is flush. Also, it'd have to be very secure for this to work, but I'd want it to be quick to add and remove. Any ideas?
>>65386022
You'll end up with a bolt breaking into the wood of your guitar with that much weight on it.
There exists clip ons for the head of the guitar already that add weight and "sustain" that people swear by. Whether or not they actually work, I don't know
>>65386058
Those clips just change the wolf tone, they don't add sustain(overall). They can actually work if you have a particularly musical wolf tone that's choking more than one note, but that's actually pretty rare. Some p-basses have wolf notes on the 2nd lowest C, just by a coincidence of the average shape and weight of the guitar. So a lot of people put one of those on, and the wolf tone moves to somewhere less annoying.
BTW, people usually call wolf tones "dead spots" when talking about electric guitar and bass.
I get going well but end up strumming a string too high, is there a method to learn your pick/string position or is it just down to practice?
Should I be looking at my finger position on the neck or down to where I'm strumming?
>>65386333
not necessary, for open chords you can mute the strings you need with your thumb
>>65386222
>BTW, people usually call wolf tones "dead spots" when talking about electric guitar and bass.
Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering what the fuck a wolf tone was.
>>65386333
It's worth it to practice sometimes picking in isolation. Just hold an open chord without changing it and work on picking exercises. Another good idea is to have multiple postures you're comfortable in. There's more than one right way to strum.
Be aware that when strumming anything besides an arpeggio, it's normal to not have perfect control of which strings you hit, to some degree. This is an area of guitar playing that takes time to develop. It requires precision. Certain things are simply too fast and you should rely on muting techniques. Ideally you don't need to mute to avoid hitting the strings, but a combination of muting and picking accuracy is the best policy. Bother together is better than either alone.
However, when you're doing exercises, it's easier to tell what you're doing right if you practice one at a time. I.e. hitting all the strings when practicing muting, and not muting with the left hand when practicing picking precision. As always, use a variety of exercises.
>>65386443
It's the term used for string instruments. When using a bow, sustain isn't relevant, so the added resonance adds volume and changes the character. I prefer the term because electric guitar terms usually are misused. Googling dead spot gives you a bunch of forum posts, wolf tone gives you technical and scientific articles.
>>65386419
>>65386476
Thanks anons, I'll try to incorporate muting into open chords where it's comfortable from now on and try focusing on precision after I've had more experience.
>>65373901
It's fine but you might as well get a gibson at that point
>>65386561
Without being a twat, doesn't the existence of wolf tones on an electric instrument prove that the body material DOES affect the sound in some way? So woods with different density and different body shapes could affect sustain and maybe create/eliminate wolf tones?
>tfw got a gig coming up in a couple of hours
wish me luck
[spoiler]or don't. i'm playing bass after all[/spoiler]
>>65386682
Post your bass.
>>65386682
>>65386749
and your amp
>>65386682
Just keep them roots and 5ths goin mate.
Best of luck!
>>65386682
>>65386749
>>65386771
and your dick
>>65386682
Remember to have fun. You got this.
>>65386749
sure. it's this qt
>>65386771
i don't even think i will use one
we're opening for another band and iirc they won't let us use their stuff, and it's far af so no way we're taking ours (we're playing for free so not worth the risk)
>>65386785
s-sure
>tfw actually have some solo parts
>>65386786
blue
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>>65386792
i think i do anon
thanks
How different are an MT-2 and an HM-2? I would mostly use it for black metal and noise, but just for fun want a good death and thrash tone.
>>65386875
>i don't even think i will use one
>opening for another band and iirc they won't let us use their stuff
>it's far af so no way we're taking ours (we're playing for free so not worth the risk)
Why are you even bothering if you have no pride in your band and your music?
>>65386875
Is that a GB-74? I've got it's little sister, the GB-34A and it's a blast.
>>65386910
HM2 can sound like a soaring chainsaw and doubles as a really good distortion/heavy OD pedal.
MT-2 can sound good eventually, if you spend a lot of time dialing in a tone.
>>65386661
Yeah, that's what it means... But it's very understandable HOW it affects the tone. It doesn't change the overall frequency response, and string overtones don't have enough energy to experience a noticeable notch at those frequencies. Basically, it doesn't affect the things people attribute it to. No wood is brighter or warmer, etc. The fact is it's impossible to differentiate wood species. You could say it impacts performance rather than tone, if you want to think about it that way. The same goes for the shape of the guitar.
It is possible to differentiate guitars of different weight however, whether that's because of a bigger body or a denser body. It's good to be specific about these things, but I wouldn't want someone to misinterpret the effect of these wolf tones. The weight is a far more important factor. In general wolf tones are merely an annoyance, not a significant factor for timbre.
Y'know, I should use the word timbre more often instead of tone. Pretty much that's what people are talking about here.
>>65386942
For fun
>>65386942
it's the biggest crowd we've faced yet, and we haven't actually released anything (recording will start later this month if all goes well)
so we're doing it for fun, experience and exposure sake. we have nothing to lose.
>>65386945
yeah. nice bass, got it by chance trading a chink warwick a couple years ago and never looked back. the bright switch is pretty useless and i think i'll have it removed though.
>>65386910
MT-2 is definitely the best for black metal, the non swedeath tones of the HM-2 are still far too bass heavy to get a good black metal tone out of.
>>65387032
>we're doing it for fun, experience and exposure
>no amplifiers or sound equipment
How is that fun, a good experience or good exposure?
>all exposure is good exposure!
No, being seen as a band that couldn't afford equipment to actually play songs is not good exposure.
>>65387090
playing live is fun, we've practiced a lot and we wanna do it
we got guitar amps and drums covered, i don't think the main band will let me use their bass rig but it's really not that big a deal if i have to use the PA
i'm positive it will sound good, i've done it before
>>65387062
If you cut all the bass can you get a good bm tone? I like the HM-2 better than the MT-2, but if I get an HM-2 I'm just going to build a clone of a Japanese one since they are so expensive.
>>65386968
This is kind of what I figured. Looks like I'm going to have get my soldering iron out.
>>65383137
It's a matching headstock model.
My other picture just has bad lighting
So, I've realized the dream rig I want to work towards requires a full range, full response speaker or cab with enough volume to provide adequate stage sound. I've realized I don't really need perfect flat response, but the closer the better. I want to use the same speaker for bass and guitar.
In other words, I'm fucked. These things are so fucking expensive I really need to lower my standards. Does anyone have experience with anything comparable? Could a fancy enough EQ and enough time with a spectrometer and a signal generator compensate for an uneven frequency response? I know I'm nitpicking, and like I said I want to lower my standards, but I want to aim towards an ideal, however short I fall.
well there's a huge event at a local music store on Saturday that I'm gonna go to.
first 300 people get gift cards, either $10 or $300 off, and there are 10-50% off scratch cards. Hopefully I can get a good deal on a nice amp. Wish me luck.
>>65379215
I'll post it on the next thread since this one's dying. I think I already have the Touhou tab set, but please post yours anyway.
>>65387838
>I think I already have the Touhou tab set
pls gib set anon
>>65387856
I'll post everything I have in the next thread
