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Hey guys, let's do this.
What are you listening to? How are your projects? Post gear, talk about noise, blah blah blah
Pic related is a recent favorite
This is my setup currently. I'm using a cheap radio as a sound source and running that through a few distortion pedals. I also have a drum machine. Below the wooden stands are some concealed cables and the surge protector and stuff
Post your setups noise bros
this is an old picture of not all my shit
I'll take one in the dark if this thread lives
This is what I do with it
https://soundcloud.com/ourexitbag/tricky-plexus-what-was-pain
>>65314242
Intradesting. What are those two on the right?
No pictures. I pretty much use an Arturia analog synth and recorded samples along with digital reverb, feedback, distortion and other effects through my DAW.
does anyone here know of any albums or artists that don't make 100% straight up noise music, but heavily incorporate noise into their stuff? I find that concept to be really interesting and want to seek out music like it
this song is one of the best examples I can think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh_ty7TmEGM
>>65315882
Is it a microbrute or something else?
>>65313825
https://pagodamast.bandcamp.com/
Oh here's stuff I've made. None of it incorporates the setup yet (it's mostly new), though my next demo will involve it. I do a lot of digital modification to my sounds in a DAW and stuff.
>>65316178
It might appeal to you since incorporates some synth stuff and other styles of music like black metal and such. Everyone post more of your gear and music!
>>65316673
What I do doesn't really resemble your sample, I was just saying it was different stylistically
tfw no noise gf
>>65316483
Minibrute SE
More stuff to work with than the Micro
>>65316923
I've been looking at the various sizes of brutes and they all seem really great as far as I'm concerned. I'm considering saving up
>>65314242
I mostly keep to using feedback loops. The little box over the back has a distortion and pitch shifting pedal, as well as a small cone and contact mic I use for making loops.
noise
>>65318163
that setup looks pretty sick, despite it's general simplicity. I like it
If you're an "occultist" don't make noise
If you are not classically trained don't make noise
If you have not up until this point played in several jazz bands don't make noise
If you don't have a point don't make noise
Fuck you
>>65320399
Fuck off
>>65320276
It is a simple tool, but it is pretty great. A lot of my stuff is done in post-production.
Plus, playing with ungrounded electricity itself is quite an exhilarating experience.
https://soundcloud.com/minimalimpactnoise/min03-excerpt-tiles-memories-of-one-perverted-night
what should I add to this?
https://soundcloud.com/kyle-j-cornwell/figure-c
i'm just starting to experiment with new sorts of stuff
most of this is just through an interface with some logic native instruments, but i'm planning on using this reverb dimed on the 'wet' setting, along with an ocd and a sonic maximizer
https://youtu.be/P3tIu4rB46g?t=1m46s
>>65315448
I've never heard or seen anything like this
>>65320399
Which noise artists meet all of these requirements?
>>65315448
dude, you're one of only mutants who actually shill out extraordinary stuff. I commented on you posts several times before and am doing it again because I truly love what you do. Keep it up bruh bruh
>>65313708
I just do noisy farts and record them.
>>65325048
bandcamp?
>>65323131
I nearly said Envelope Philter, but the brother is an occultist.
>>65313825
>>65314242
>>65315448
>>65316658
>>65318163
cheers to everybody who posted their gear! It's interesting to see what other people are going for.
Cheers to Ornate Exit for being awesome.
this is me https://soundcloud.com/nqmanikoi
I still haven't recorded anything (big) with the new setup (I just got the mixer).
I've been listening to The Echo from the Purple Dawn by ASTRO and Keiji Haino live shows a lot lately.
>>65313708
>Post gear
What are some tip top Merzbow collabs?
pic related
>inb4 someone calls me entry level or pleb
bumph
I just scrapped almost a whole demo because I was dissatisfied with it...but I've started fresh and I'm pleased with the results. How long do releases usually take for you guys to put together? What sort of DAWs do you use? I'm interested in the creative processes of others
>>65325697
Merzbow is actually really good so anyone who disses him is out of line
I've been bumping this lately. Very enjoyable. I might prefer this to Brewer's work as Mania
>>65326538
Rate my experimentation for today.
This was made using a minimoog, a Line 6 DL4, Big Muff, Boss DD7 Delay and a mooer soul shiver.
https://clyp.it/b11lm4na
>>65326617
>>65326538
I didn't mean to direct that comment just at you, I just forget to delete the post number when I wanted the postbox to pop up.
>>65326617
It's a good start. Pretty glitchy at points and nice and ambient overall. Not necessarily hella noisy, and kind of sparse though
>>65327098
>Not necessarily hella noisy, and kind of sparse though
If I turn up up so it is "hella noisy", I completely lose any nuance and it's justs a wall of noise...that seems kind of pointless.
>>65327302
Step up pleb.
Do you think that having real hardware makes a big difference? Do you think the music here >>65315448 or >>65326617 could not have been achieved without expensive equipment?
>>65327415
Being "hands on" with physical gear changes the creative process enormously. It's not really a question of if you can replicate the audio in a DAW (you likely could if you were anal enough), but rather, would you even bother? There's a big difference between drawing notes and automation in a DAW and twiddling knobs on the fly.
>>65326393
this desu.
>>65326377
Took at least a year to put together a debut - Reason 7
>>65327508
>(you likely could if you were anal enough), but rather, would you even bother?
So you're saying it would be much much harder without the hardware, right.
Because you see, this here. >>65326617 wasn't made a minimoog, a Line 6 DL4, Big Muff, Boss DD7 Delay and a mooer soul shiver.
It was made using the gear posted here >>65325672. I recorded some silence from my room and ran it through a few filters.
It took less time to make than it does to listen through it all.
So when you say it would probably be too much work and hard to do without hardware, I think you're wrong.
This post brought to you once again by the guy who keeps posting in the /noise/ generals who thinks you're all a bunch of emperor's new clothes clowns and that this genre is full of completely untalented hacks.
>>65327563
> Took at least a year to put together a debut - Reason 7
Kek, I made two full albums in two days, both took less time to make than they do to listen to. These idiots lapped them up.
>>65327586
>I recorded some silence from my room and ran it through a few filters.
what filters exactly?
>>65327586
I never said it would be "harder", but the outcome would be different. You'd have two very different pieces, which of course is obvious. Way to totally misinterpret what I said.
I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. All you've ever done on /mu/ in your weirdly obsessive personal crusade against noise music is be way too cocksure, to the point where it detracts from your arguments because you're totally unable to discuss things from an unbiased perspective.
Nobody sees noise as a purely intellectual exercise like you seem to think. The vast majority of us just like sounds.
>>65327641
Why are you encouraging him?
>>65327641
Reverb, phasers, paulstretch, a few others.
>>65327644
https://wearedeadandthisishell.bandcamp.com/track/noise-music-is-made-by-completely-untalented-faggots-who-couldnt-play-two-notes-together-right
>>65327586
>>65327708
talent is meaningless. of course a lot of noise is just mindless jamming, that's largely the point. so is a lot of other free improv music
granted, the internet gave a platform for every bedroom teenager to make a 'noise album' in 10 minutes, but the same could be said for any genre. no music is free from laziness, noise is just misinterpreted as a justification for this. which in the end means nothing because if someone likes what someone else has made, no matter how effortless, then that's all well and good
anyway if you're listening to music for technical wankery then it begs the question of why you're into it in the first place
>>65327788
>talent is meaningless.
This is what people with no talent say
>anyway if you're listening to music for technical wankery then it begs the question of why you're into it in the first place
Nah. Did you hear my guitar playing? Just simple chord strums. Still more beauty in it than anything from the harsh noise genre.
>>65327788
>talent is meaningless
No it's fucking not, you're giving him more ammo. He never has an actual argument, stop fucking talking to him.
>>65327833
>He never has an actual argument
My argument is that you are a bunch of hipster emperor's new clothes idiots. I've proved this time and again by making "noise" music as a pisstake and none of you can ever spot it. That's because a fucking child could do it. A bot could do it. If these people think they are musicians they are delusional.
i liked frozen niagara falls, particularly Every Relationship Earthrise, can you recommend me similar?
>>65327926
Envelope Philter
>>65327886
No, recording shitty noise with a sarcastic and ironic title and saying it's the same as other artists is not an argument, nor is tricking two Anons who fell for your retarded trick above. It's a shitty Paulstretch ambient track.
>None of you could spot it
That two people fell for it is not indicative or representative of the entirety of noise or these threads. All you ever do is say the same thing and make a claim about the genre that you act like we've not heard thousands of times before. You do no arguing. You never address any points brought up, nor do you ever talk about anything other than how the opposing party is wrong. Spouting "victory" over nothing is precisely the kind of shit the hipsters you claim to be arguing against would do.
>>65327991
>No, recording shitty noise with a sarcastic and ironic title and saying it's the same as other artists is not an argument, nor is tricking two Anons who fell for your retarded trick above. It's a shitty Paulstretch ambient track.
Yeah yeah, 20/20 hindsight.
>>65327886
Did you discover free improvisation as a concept last month or something?
>That's because a fucking child could do it. A bot could do it.
I fail to see how this is a negative thing. The entire punk movement was based on this idea. The exact same philosophy can be said to be behind noise.
>If these people think they are musicians they are delusional.
If you make music, you're a musician by default. From what you said, a few people liked some of your music, or at least parts of it. Good for you, buddy. Perhaps are your ultimate "troll" statement you can make a full-length release on a half decent label, sell a few hundred copies and get a few fans. You'd sure show us then!
>>65328028
>I fail to see how this is a negative thing. The entire punk movement was based on this idea. The exact same philosophy can be said to be behind noise.
There aren't many children playing guitars. Every child could walk up to the average noise musician's console and twist a few dials.
>If you make music, you're a musician by default.
It isn't music. It's the end result of dada lunacy, designed to further usher the destruction of beauty upon us.
Well, that's just my opinion anyway.
>>65328022
Great argument. I rest my case.
>>65328062
>Every child could walk up to the average noise musician's console and twist a few dials.
Again, I don't know why you're so concrete in your stance that technical skill = worthwhile music. You've yet to properly back this up, and from what I've seen, constantly failed to do so in your bait threads.
>It isn't music.
Sure it is, it's deliberated sound.
>It's the end result of dada lunacy, designed to further usher the destruction of beauty upon us.
That's a bit of a stretch. Subversive art has been going on for years before noise, noise is just another branch of it.
And I fail to see any larger, cultural destruction of beauty as a result. You should probably point a finger at postmodernism, irony, pastiche and the wider scope of mass-media's implications if that's what concerns you.
>>65328176
>And I fail to see any larger, cultural destruction of beauty as a result. You should probably point a finger at postmodernism, irony, pastiche and the wider scope of mass-media's implications if that's what concerns you.
When poseur critics listen to this crap and tell me it's music, I see nothing good, wholesome or healthy about it existing. I see a teenager somewhere who could have learned to play the guitar, or the keyboard, or the sax, but instead he thought noise was cool so just rigs his vacuum cleaner up to a fuzz pedal. Who knows what songs we would have had? Who knows what symphonies he could have written? Now instead all he'll create is a wall of aural dirt so channel bleeding that you wouldn't be able to tell if he sampled his own defaction.
It's shit and it makes the world a worse place.
>>65328221
>defaction
Meant defecation.
>>65328176
If you fail to recognize the non-experimentative and non-subversive aspects of noise, you're only going to give this guy more reason to spout what he always does. If you're going to bite on his hook, at least don't provide the same limited viewpoint he has. Read his next reply. Again, he has said nothing different. STOP REPLYING
>>65328240
After just reading what he replied, you're right; it's pissing in the wind.
I'm fully aware that there's a wider circle of noise that isn't just anti-art. It seemed like that was his problem, so it was worth addressing directly.
But, yeah dude, >>65328221 you're a retard. If you *genuinely* think that artists should adhere to your own, personal standard of creativity and merit in art, then I don't know what to say to you.
are feet basically shoes for your ankles
Noise
>>65327302
>wall of noise
>pointless
>implying albums like pic related are pointless
But you make a fair point. I guess I just wouldn't call what you did "noise" is all. Not that it needs to be or anything
>>65326617
This is boring shit
>>65327508
>>65327415
Having done both digital and analog recordings I'd have to say it does make a difference. Neither is superior to the other but I find I enjoy making noise in analog and doing digital post production. A mix of both is good
>>65327586
When you don't really put any effort into it and then make it known then I feel like it detracts from the quality of your work
>>65327586
Also yeah it definitely sounded like a single layer so at least today I'm not sure how much you're fooling anyone
>>65328221
Why would a keyboard, guitar, or sax be a better use of time?
https://clyp.it/w5mmzpqg
Made a short sound experiment using a melody I made
Tell me what you think
>>65331356
Thanks
>>65331380
I actually fucked up and thought you had posteed in the /prod/ thread, I wouldn't have been so caustic normally, sorry.
>>65331408
It was something I made in a short timespan and I wouldn't release it on an album, ep, etc. so I'm fine with whatever is said
>>65331455
It was the knee jerk reaction I would post to noise getting posted in /prod/ I have no idea if it's any good within the genre, you'll have to ask someone else.
>>65315448
frogs :)
Reed Evans Rosenberg, Ethan Trip - Medium Rude
>noise,eai
https://a.cuntflaps.me/rlavyc.tar.xz
>>65325313
https://soundcloud.com/mephisto_waltz/the-visitation-feat-ornate-exit
Here's a new collaborative track I did with the immensely talented Ornate Exit
No pics but I play an elbowed lap steel /lap harp and friendo does source manipulation.
Sometimes we do improv sets, sometimes we work on rehearsed material, but the end product is a collection of field recordings and found sounds assembled in a collage type style with some melodic droney/ambient textures for guidance.
>>65313825
I'm looking to get a new sound source to run through my pedals. I'm thinking of checking out APCs or something. What would you guys suggest?
>>65332270
>What would you guys suggest?
A guitar.
>>65332270
volca
>>65332384
Something that'll fit in a box, I meant
>>65333538
I'll keep this in mind
why still noise harsh wall
>>65327586
lol
>>65325697
What are some tip top merzbow collabs?
he is great with Nordvargr, someone who isn't me please answer me.
>>65336750
Xiu xiu, full of hell, various Boris collabs, John wiese, and gore beyond necropsy are all good ones
>>65316178
i enjoyed this
>>65325697
>>65336750
this came out a few months ago. pretty rad
>>65337728
I have all the files, I just cant play them simultaneously on my phone :/
>>65331966
This is sick are you guys doing more?
>>65334640
y not
>>65325697
Sun Baked Snow Cave as well as Klatter (both with Boris) are dope
>>65343046
already
>>65313708
I love playing Iggy into this
