/metal/ general
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.
You are currently reading a thread in /mu/ - Music
You are currently reading a thread in /mu/ - Music
Alestorm edition.
downvoted
>>65299854
>alestorm
Are you the quintessential /metal/ patrician
Vektor - Terminal Redux
rec me some metal with good use of synths desu
>>65299888
Mercyful Fate
requesting that slam group that sampled row row fight the power
>being so depressed you split up with yourself
http://www.metal-archives.com/band/view/id/3540379774
>>65299888
>>65299922
>sampled
And people say slam isn't a subgenre of hip-hop
>>65299854
At least link to the past thread dumb nigger
>>65291756
>>65299887
Terminal Redux is AMG's album of the month. What do you think about this?
>>65299887
isn't this outer isolation?
>>65299956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoD4wOX_98c
?
>>65299854
Shittiest OP. no pastebin no link to old thread.
Never start a general thread again.
>>65300070
>pastebin
don't do that
Why did "epic" metal turn into shit? All these bands like Alestorm and Equilibrium are so shallow compared to the masters.
/metal/ died in 2014. Only 12 good threads have been made since then (most of them in 2015, during NBBMN). /metal/ achieved its creative peak in memes like Mirai, Liturgy, and weeb posting, elevating the general into a legitimate art form. Now, thanks to Vektor and Gojira, all its potential was squandered and the general has been reduced into being mere gimmick ridden shitposting for drunk idiots (i.e. the lowest common denominator - stop trying to turn underground generals into /kpop/).
>>65300082
What's wrong with the pastebin? It's a compilation of lists so that newfags don't have to flood the threads with the same "I'm new to metal, give me some reccs."
>>65300092
weebmemeing was pretty bad too
our boy posting was the peak of /metal/ memes though.
>>65300092
>most of them in 2015, during NBBMN
kys
>>65300092
About time this edit showed up
>>65300092
>Gojira is unchanged
Holy kek
>>65300125
/a/ does the same thing without a pastebin my friend, /metal/ should follow that example
post riffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C52L5dqC0qs
>>65300179
but /a/ is a board, not a general. it's pretty regular for generals on any board to have pastebins.
>>65300125
only thing to come out of weeb memeing is all the dank bands that get posted. fuck the people who just circlejerk "muh whacky japs doing currrazy things" though.
>>65299887
This is why we can't have nice things.
What's the metal equivalent of hebephilia in the sense that normalfags hate it but people with taste are drawn to it
>>65300292
just for you, degenerate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c
>>65300292
BABYMETAL
>>65300317
>>65300324
(Japanese) normalfags love this though
>>65300356
no they dont
>>65300317
This guy is living the degenerate dream.
>>65300369
Idooru shit is all the rage in gookland, attach that to metal and you can market the genre easier to the average nip
>>65300324
BABYMETAL is the most popular Japanese band ever
both of their albums are certified gold
they're the epitome of normalfag metal
>>65300324
babymetal is unironically the biggest metal band of the decade, globally though.
they're more normalfag than ghost.
they play on fucking pop stations in canada.
>>65300399
It made people think I listen to shit like Babymetal when I tell them I listen to metal
>>65299986
Avant Math God?
>>65300403
Finn here, they play them on the radio stations here too.
>>65300399
>they're the epitome of normalfag metal
I thought it was shit like Disturbed
>>65300419
Disturbed haven't been popular in a decade.
>>65300317
>>65300324
Both are fucking trash
>>65300419
that breed of butt metal has died out long ago
>>65300410
I'm okay with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIfPobGQmio
>what's the metal equivalent of hebephilia
>first two replies are hebe pedo idol metal
as is expected
Remember that liking Babymetal means you acknowledge this as good taste
>>65300455
u-um
painkiller is good yo
>>65300455
>>65300492
As are Behemoth and Gorogoroth ain't bad. Yngwie is a great guitarist but the dude sucks his own dick a bit much
>>65300492
you are missing the point
Post shit memes that will never end
>Behemoth is not bad, their demos are actually good
>>65300089
Since when have alestorm ever pretended to be epic metal?
>>65300455
>Seikima-II
>X Japan
>Riot
>Mayhem
>Judas Priest
>Nile
literally the only good bands on there
how the fuck is it possible for that gook to have such terrible taste?
>>65300455
>No Finntroll
Thank god.
>>65300492
>32: Judas Priest - Painkiller
>30: In Flames - Clayman
>29: I See Stars - Digital Resistance
>26: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - All that we Have Now
>22 Eskimo Callboy - Bury me in Vegas
>20: Dream Theater - Images And Words
>18: The Devil Wears Prada - With Roots Above and Branches Below
>17: Deluhi - Andalism
>13: Children Of Bodom -Reckless Relentless Forever
>11: Bullet For My Valentine - Fever
>10: Bring me the Horizon - Suicide Season
>9: Behemoth - Demigod
>8: Arch Enemy - Doomsday Machine
>>65300534
>>65300574
i was just trying to find positives
behemoth is alright tho
>>65300561
I'm surprised Seikima-II never gets memed here considering how much this general's full of weebs who circlejerk any metal band with slanty eyes.
how don't people understand that jap metal is lowest of the low?
>>65300604
i meme'd them once only because their vocalist plays live while doing handstands
>>65300621
Japanese make the best melodeath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QEvf3OFL0E
>tfw you share a general with people who think Arch Enemy, The Agonist, Theatre Of Tragedy, Deadlock, Abnormality, Landmine Marathon, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Nightwish, Amaranthe, and Within Temptation are good
>>65300643
only thing japs are good at is grind and speed metal
and one really good melodeath band doesn't mean the country makes the best melodeath
>tfw can't find an album on soulseek
time to kms i guess
>>65300665
rec me some good jap-grind
>>65300643
It's alright, honestly. It's not that good but it's not awful like some bands around.
>>65300643
There exist less than 10 decent bands and Japan having 1 of them (whose only good album is their debut) doesn't make them the best.
>>65300693
less than 10 decent melodeath bands I mean
>>65300665
>>65300693
I also enjoy Blood Stain Child
>>65300677
swarrrm, bathtub shitter, 30XX, S.O.B., catasexual urge motivation, noise a go go/gore beyond necropsy, gozen, clotted symmetric sexual organ, world, morbid axe, evol, mortalized,
S T A
R G A
Z E R
![morgoth-odium[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Qr2C5oU.jpg "morgoth-odium[1].jpg")
How about some good music in this thread?
outta here with that jap shit
>>65300741
They're at least catchy butt melodeath so they get to hang in the 3-4/10 range as opposed to the 1-2/10 area that most of their peers dwell in.
>>65300756
>>65300677
Flagitious Idiosyncrasy In The Dilapidation, 324, and Damage Digital are great
>>65300766
>outta here with that jap shit
hey tyvon, hows it going?
>>65300766
R I F F S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL8afK4Wfe8
>>65300643
>>65300693
>contrarian shitters think this is better than Carcass and Gotheburg bands
lel
>>65300643
Just because they have a few really good melodeath bands doesn't mean they make the best melodeath. Their melodeath scene's way too flooded with melo buttdeath.
Saw Alestorm last year, most dumb fun I've ever had at a show
>>65300845
Carcass is just hard rock riffs with harsh vocals and the gothenburg three all suffer from not being death metal enough. The +3Jester Race had its fair share of decent riffs whereas At The Gates' post-92 output and Dark Tranquility's entire career lacked any. IB's first album is just generic swedeath riffs with an occasionally good melodic lead thrown in, and yes it shits on anything those bands put out.
>gabbed to Chris from Alestorm about Back Through Time
>apparently a lot of Neopagans sent him death threats for calling Thor and Odin "worthless gods"
Why is the metal community so embarrassing
>>65300877
Yeah me too, that's why I defended them earlier. Metal elitists just don't know how to have fun 2bh.
>>65300946
Shut up Myrkur.
>>65300946
Because the whole imagery of metal is that it's abstruse music for edgelords.
Can I be the lord of cheese?
>>65300946
If you want to see embarrassing, go to Ensiferum youtube comments. It's all white elitists spouting shit along the lines of "Muslims get out of Europe"
so i was on ghost gig yesterday and i think some fuck broke my rib.
and today gojira gig
So any of you fucks have question to band after i meet them?
>>65300984
they are right
>>65300995
Ask Joe why he is so hellbent on destroying metal by sapping all its creativity and squandering its potential.
>>65300643
i unironically think ICDD makes better melodeath than IB, but i constantly have to change their album covers in my music player because i hate animeshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJjHZNX0KOE
>>65301024
Lmao what?
>>65300995
>>65301024
>>65301038
You must be new here. You can't just say the g-word and expect a bunch of autists to get buttmad.
>>65300984
sounds about right to me Ahmed
>>65300997
>>65301057
>>>/pol/
Keep to your containment board, for fucks sake.
>>65301072
fuck off, metal isnt for liberal faggots like you
>>65301072
can u believe these friggin assholes omg
>>65301072
cry all you want, people have had enough and it's nothing to do with /pol/
>>65301088
A good majority of metal bands swing left buddy, especially if you consider /pol/ standards
>>65301119
Yes, and those people are the reason for the horrific downfall of genres such as death and black metal, nobody wants you fuckers in the scene.
>>65301119
Fuck even by /pol/ standards Hitler swings left considering all the gays, blacks, Muslims, Indians, and even Jews he had serving in the reich
>>65300997
>>65301057
>>65301088
>>65301135
>m-metal isn't for children though! honest!
>>65301151
You're right, left wingers are children
>>65301038
Memes.
>>65301072
How new are you? /pol/ has a strong presence in /metal/
>>65301165
As somebody that frequents /pol/, /metal/'s more /pol/ than /pol/.
>>65301151
>ugh like grow up goy- I mean guys
>it's a regular /mu/tant comes to /metal/ and complains about the boogeyman episode
Underground metal is mostly right wing aside from a couple of atrocious exceptions, deal with it
>>65301135
Well no one wants right wing assholes either. Those exact genres you described are about nihilism, not stupid ideological propaganda.
>>65301072
>telling a general that constantly spews /pol/ memes for years to go back to /pol/
wew
>>65301189
>no one wants right wing assholes either
you're the only one throwing a hissyfit about /pol/ memes. /metal/ isn't exactly a lefty hugbox.
>>65301135
Black metal is honestly the only of those genres that has a strong far right presence and plenty of the original norsecore bands weren't as NS as you'd like to think. Darkthrone has always been left, Mayhem as an entity weren't that politically involved and the same applies to Immortal, even Varg isn't NS. Plenty of NS bands just use the aesthetics to generate controversy anyway, claiming that metal has always been rooted in far right ideology is as ignorant as saying it's rooted in far left progressivism. Metal is more libertarian than anything
>>65301225
This exactly. If you're a braindead Nazi you're literally the opposite of what metal is about.
>>65301189
I've been to shows where people walk out because of the reason "the band talked about women in their show", not even the songs themselves, but because the singer said to a guy "you gonna fuck those whores tonight?" on stage.
That is fucking ruining metal, it's not about nihilism, it's the people complaining about the nihilism and the disrespect for people, "HURR YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!!!!" is the mindset almost every left winger has now, that's why bands like Cattle Decap are popular, you'll notice how almost nobody outside from liberals will tell you they think the music is good
>>65301225
Black Metal wasn't invented in Norway.
>>65301238
I know it wasn't but 2nd wave BM was where the NS presence really started to emerge. 1st wave BM was even less politically involved so if you're actually trying to argue why black and death metal were started with far right sentiments then you're doing an even worse job at it.
>>65301225
>>65301237
>being a right-winger means you're a nazi or support national socialism.
What the fuck? We're talking about right-wing, not fucking Nazism. Plenty of black metal musicians hold right-wing beliefs. Also what >>65301238 said. 2nd wave black metal isn't exclusively Norwegian, or even Scandinavian for that matter.
>>65301265
>>65301225
>lefties immediately jump to nazism and national socialism whenever the right-wing is brought up
this is why nobody takes you seriously, fuck off with your boogeymen
![foto_364_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eRY6chQ.jpg "foto_364_1[1].jpg")
Everyone here is forgetting the gods that created your pissant "death metal" bands
>>65301305
is that Nails?
>>65301274
I've seen it happen vice-versa, too. This is nobody's hugbox and everybody needs to post what they're listening to right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dcl2Eg_Xi0
>>65301317
All nine inches of them!
>>65301327
>>65301332
heyoo!
>>65301266
>>65301274
It's pretty obvious that the people talking about the right in metal are doing so more from an NS angle than say a conservative or libertarian one hence why it gets brought up.
>>65301354
How is it obvious? Please explain
>>65301354
>It's pretty obvious
no it isn't
>>65300866
Gothenburg shit bands are the worst melodeath and almost all melodeath copies it
I can only stand things like Arghoslent when it comes to melodeath
>>65301390
Because everybody who disagrees with me supports Hitler.
>open thread
>expect to discuss metal
>see politics shitposting from retarded lefties who immediately jump to and blame national socialism at the first mention of the right-wing, and butthurt right-wingers still giving retards (you)s.
>>65301390
>>65301400
Someone made a post complaining abut how comments on Ensiferum videos are cringey because they're filled with posts like "Muslims get out of Europe" and such. Then two posts agreed with the statement (the one about Muslims not the one stating it was cringeworthy), there were dissenting replies to those and thus the thread was derailed. If you want all Muslims ejected out of Europe then yes that is pretty far right
>>65301469
But how the hell is that Nazism?
>>65301482
Because everybody who disagrees with me supports Hitler
>>65301469
>If you want all Muslims ejected out of Europe then yes that is pretty far right
I prefer to call it peacemaking
And this is legitimately a great album, too bad the Demanufacture meme overshadows it.
>>65301482
Never said it were, just that conservatism (moderate) or NS (extreme) are pretty much incompatible with metal as a genre.
>>65301469
>muslims stay in Europe
>tensions rise because of cultural differences leading to conflict
>people die
or
>syrian crisis is over
>muslims go back
>nobody dies
>>65301513
>just that conservatism (moderate) or NS (extreme) are pretty much incompatible with metal as a genre
No it isn't, stop being stupid
>>65301482
Yeah the ties to Nazism are just a result of generalizations. Ironically enough, saying something like all Muslims should be ejected from Europe is even more extreme than traditional Nazi beliefs considering all the Muslims that served in the reich and the praises Hitler had towards Islam.
>>65301509
I agree completely. Back when Fear Factory was still good.
>>65301522
It's probably just dmshareguy and his fuckbuddy moonshake just trolling us.
>>65301509
Fear Factory have always played radio rock disguised as "metal" throughout the entirety of their history as a band, but with this album they seem to have fooled some people into thinking they had a "death metal past". In reality, this is the same product with a different skin. The same commercial soul rests in this machine and was all that Roadrunner Records needed to test the waters before dropping their entire death metal roster to make way for Coal Chamber, Slipknot, and Nickelback (except Deicide since they still made money). While the surface traits of this album seem to have been borrowed from the Napalm Death and Godflesh (maybe even Pitch Shifter) recordings of the time (to the point of not being signed by Earache for being too derivative of their roster), what we really have is an aesthetic mash-up that functions as yet another prototype for Nu-Meddle that deserves it's place next to Pantera, Chaos AD, and Biohazard in the pantheon of recordings that ruined music for future generations.
The bands aesthetic seems to be juxtaposing Napalm Death derived power-chord rhythm riffs and vocals against Godflesh inspired discordant melodic passages and clean vocals. Thankfully, the grunt/growl style of vocals do a pretty good job at imitating Barney Greenway and the cleans are kept to a Justin Broadrick imitation which isn't annoying unlike the later faux-operatic U2 styled singing vocalist Burton Bell would later utilize on their more obviously Nu-Meddle recordings. The lyrics tackle on interesting subject matter (judicial system, animal lab testing) but are written in an angsty "keeping it real" simplistic manner that have more in line with their Korn-y descendants. At worst, lyrics become "personal" or a parody of generic death metal lyrics (Manipulation and Desecrate, respectively).
>>65300561
Nips have terrible or entry-level taste in general yet still manage to come up with some rreally good and unique music.
For example, Merzbow really likes Deathcore.
>>65301545
The main thing this band did that would inspire legions of mall musicians is varying up rhythm picking patterns of 2 notes or chords against kick drums into a mechanical groove for a "machine like" feeling. Some tag this 'industrial' because of this feel but, despite ornamentation through samples on select tracks, the compositions feel more akin to the alternative rock of the day that is analogous to the dreadlocks-wave that was just beginning (Rage Against the Machine).
Songs are organized into a standard verse-chorus format, where verses are filled with grooved out power chords or mechanically patterned rhythmic chugging of notes, and choruses are "melodic" affairs with a repeating meme (if not song title) that occasionally are accompanied by melodic sung vocals. It gets boring very fast, especially if you're already accustomed to real death metal since this has more in common with the Nirvana album of the time on a structural and communicative level with it's radio formatted display of suburban misery (where angsty loud choruses are verses here instead, choruses the whining drone). In other words, a corporate sham right out the gate. It comes off as being aesthetically unpleasant with it's intent to sound aesthetically pleasant by making the "brutal" sections seem "warm and fuzzy" when thrown next to those "safe and reassuring" choruses.
>>65301557
>Merzbow
>really good and unique music
>>65301522
>No it isn't
Yes it is, every met any conservative who was into extreme (black and death) metal? There's a reason for that.
If Nazis followed their ideology coherently (most don't, because they're unable to logical thought processes) they'd be adverse to metal anyway since it's a derivative of music made by "inferior people".
>>65301564
Tracks like Scapegoat and Crisis place an emphasis on vocals and have shuffling rhythms akin to rap music (sure enough, the riff to 'Scapegoat' was stolen by Korn for use in their single "Blind") and are representative of Fear Factory's unfortunate contribution to the music scene at large. Some variation to the formula occurs on select tracks like 'Desecrate' which sounds like a mash-up between Deicide and Napalm Death, one of few songs with melody embedded into a blasting angry verse riff but soon devolves into generic mosh death during the bridge that's not unlike Benediction. 'Flesh Hold' seems to ripoff Napalm Death's Utopia Banished throughout, being nothing but aggressive grinding death riffs but having melody incorporated during a couple of those riffs. This album's flow is also inconsistent, with the B-Side (or all songs starting from Big God/Raped Souls) having afterthought experiments such as Self-Immolation (the most "industrial" song here, utilizing a dance rhythm throughout) and Arise Above Oppression (a Napalm Death short blast track), where one idea is used and exhausted before the track ends, seemingly cobbled together at the last moment to fill time on this album.
>>65301573
you're the only person bringing up nazis lad
>>65301579
That's the album in a nutshell - angry and hackneyed groove patterns and variations of similar rhythms patterns drone on before a melodic chorus and back again with any variations to the formula coming through incomplete failed experiments, never mind this band's attempt to make death metal "nice" being a failure of an idea to begin with. It is machine like with it's dishonesty, assembled through the parts of other bands with a focus group like flow chart mentality.
It would be wiser to listen to Streetcleaner and early 90's Napalm Death than this (the last track on Napalm Death's Utopia Banished is more effective at bringing a sense of "contemplation" to blasting frustration aimed at society than the entirety of this album). It should be no surprise the route this band would take since this album just seemed to be a space for the band to stretch out into more commercial pastures by using what was popular and trendy at the time as a spring board. Vapid. Purchase some Godflesh and Napalm Death instead.
>>65301573
Not every right winger or conservative is a neo-nazi, get it through your thick fucking skull
>>65301583
I talked about them because the previous poster claimed that their ideology isn't directly opposed to metal as a genre. Enough of this, I'm not taking the Nazi bait any further.
>>65301572
baited this exact reply
I am a gay half Pakistani and half black male and I like metal.
>>65301573
>>65301592
How about we avoid calling each other Nazis or Nu-males and just post some metal for the indefinite future?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvruYTwfE34
>>65301557
>Merzbow really likes Deathcore
Not surprising that the shit he makes sucks as well
>mixing metal with politics
Impaled Nazarene did this on their newest album, and the lyrics are only a small part of why it sucks so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIi9zV_URTs
Reminder that women actually are capable of making good, while derivative, metal if they try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF9M0vetBB0
Is he good or is he a hack?
>>65301225
>metal is libertarian
well memed
>>65301698
haven't done anything good since 91
>>65301698
>leaves Carnage
>the rest of the band members (with exception to the bassist) form Dismember and release the riffing monstrosity known as Like An Everflowing Stream that is superior to Dark Recollections
>joins carcass
>the band releases their first bad album (Necroticism) and their next awful album which helped ruin melodeath (Heartwork)
>forms Arch Enemy after leaving Carcass
>band is even worse than Heartwork-era Carcass
>in fact it's so bad that they needed to put a vagina in front of a microphone to stay relevant all these years
Besides Carnage his track record is pretty fucking bad
>>65301759
this
>>65301771
>the band releases their first bad album (Necroticism) and their next awful album which helped ruin melodeath (Heartwork)
Wait, am I being trolled here? How did it "ruin" melodeath?
>>65301771
>necroticism
>bad
i hope you catch AIDS
>>65301771
>this is what dumb grind fags believe
>>65301771
I would agree with you anon, but Necroticism is still a solid album.
>>65301509
But Dememefacture is better
That album is forgettable apart from Scapegoat and Martyr
>>65301814
By showing bands that they too could become famous by dressing up radio-formatted hard rock with heavier distortion and harsh vocals as death metal in an attempt to show that the genre could be "melodic". Pay no mind to previous efforts like Choir of Horrors, As the Heavens Fall, and A Velvets Creation which pioneered the melodic death metal sound while still remembering to retain the death metal roots of the genre, or albums such as Like An Everflowing Stream and The Red in the Sky is Ours which offered power melodic riffing within a death metal framework as well. The fact that the band's famous single Heartwork is a ripoff of a bad Kreator song (Pleasure To Kill was too metal and thusly not marketable enough for Amott to re-tool) goes to show the band's train of thought in creating the album.
>>65301072
>/pol/
>containment board
It's really the opposite fąm
/pol/ isn't contained from us, we are being contained from /pol/
>>65301971
/pol/ has good mealthreads desu, every time someone starts a thread calling it degenerate it's like a dinner bell
>>65301135
>death/black metal is too spoopy for me maymay
when will this end
Btw hit me up with some good ass black metal
>>65301986
The only genre of music that isn't degenerate on /pol/ is classical. Everything else is the work of the Jew.
>>65301988
this is pretty dank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlcSTVJZHao
What's a good example of market metal made for appealing to mallcore kids?
>>65302048
I'm not sure what you mean.
>>65302048
right in the trigger zone
>>65302048
annything featuring björn speed strid
>>65302056
Corporate metal designed to be palatable for deathcore/metalcore fans. Metal bands who, while not deathcore/whatever themselves, are overproduced, groovy, and faux-aggressive enough to fit in snuggly within the mallcore scene.
>>65302106
Corporate metal? As in a band that's signed with a well-known label, or... ?
>>65302048
inquisition
>>65301588
Shit man, you're like the Patrick Bateman of metal.
>>65302106
>faux-aggressive
>>65302106
>faux-aggressive
this literally just means 'it's aggressive but popular so I need to think of some way to shit on it'
>>65301988
What are you even talking about?
What's a good alternative to melodeath if I want something aggressive but not too brutal but also catchy and poppy but not full blown homo shit?
>>65302173
hypocrisy
>>65302173
Prog death? I don't know.
>>65302123
Not exactly, I just use corporate as an adjective to further insinuate that these bands prioritize mass appeal over quality songwriting. These are bands that want to seem brutal and heavy but want to be as safe and clean as possible since rawness and genuine death metal riffcraft isn't too marketable. They also value catchy grooves for moshing over hard hitting memorable riffs.
>>65302173
Doom
>>65302161
>it's aggressive but popular so I need to think of some way to shit on it
I thought that was what this general was for.
>>65302161
It means that it wants to seem brutal by aping the surface level requirements of extreme metal without committing to its heavy spirit. It's music that wants to seem brutal for appealing to disenfranchised teenagers but doesn't actually want to be genuine about it since that would scare away their consumer base.
>>65302201
Oh. Well, what if the objective isn't to be as brutal and heavy as possible?
>>65301637
I TOO AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT GOOD SIR!
>>65302236
Then you're not making the right kind of music? What fucking question is that
>>65302246
It's a legitimate question. Is it not possible to be a metal band without trying to be the heaviest and most brutal metal band? Are there no other aspects to the genre?
>>65302236
>making heavy music without wanting to be heavy
Find another genre then, it's like trying to make pop music without hooks.
>>65302252
Riffs, energy, and heaviness are what metal is all about. At least two of three of these aspects need to be prominent in any metal band. Classic metal was more about energy and riffs whereas extreme metal falls more into the riffs and heaviness category.
1st for best black metal artist
>>65302234
I don't buy it, especially if you're talking about CD specifically. Their production is kind of sterile but otherwise they don't lack anything that rawer death metal bands have.
>>65302290
the bait failed because you linked his only decent album
>>65302285
I agree, but what band are you thinking of when you say "mallcore"? Do they lack these elements?
>>65302254
When did I say that?
>>65302293
>but otherwise they don't lack anything that rawer death metal bands have.
Good riffs for one. They have wank, standard grooves expected of post-95 death metal, and some tremelo picking but no standout riffs that capture the dark atmosphere that death metal is all about. Death metal should be disgusting and putrid like a rotting corpse infested with maggots, Cattle Decap is like a plastic skeleton model used in highschool anatomy classes.
Was someone planning to go to pic related? I would be mad as fuck right now.
>>65302389
this is funny, did i reply to late and will be labled as a samefag now?
>>65299887
Shit prodiction
>>65302413
Why, what happened to it?
also
>all that hipster shit lumped in with genuine kvlt shit
kill me
>>65302417
what
Hey
Now that Lemmy is gone, who's the grandfather of metal ?
I suggest Iron Maiden
>>65302389
well now you're just talking about quality, nobody ever said you have to like them. I just don't see some magical objective barrier that means they play and sound like death metal but for some reason aren't because...?
>>65302433
I agree with your post and thought your visualization was on point
>>65302447
Bjorn Speed Strid
>>65302344
Cattle Decap for one. Bands like The Black Dahlia Murder, Deathspell Omega, and Gojira fit the mold as well, even generic modern br00tal death which apes the rhythmic heaviness of Suffocation and early Cryptopsy without the proper attention to riffing and tone like Origin, Hour Of Penance, and Katelepsy work.
>>65302429
Canceled. And what's worse, it was canceled like yesterday, so many bands/fans that already hit the road are pretty much fucked.
>>65302450
I never said they aren't death metal, I just said they're death metal for kids who have gauges
, cut themselves, shop at Hot Topic and think Thy Art Is Murder and Lorna Shore are heavy
>>65302475
That's sad, I would have gone to it, too, if it was in Germany.
I think Mgla would be a better forerunner for Mayhem though, not good but more aggressive than Urfaust
>>65302462
am i reading this wrong or did you just call cryptopsy "mallcore"
>>65302496
Well I'm none of those things and I think they sound fine, it honestly just sounds like you have a bug up your ass for some reason and want to prove something on the internet.
>>65302413
>>65302475
was going
i live in bristol so i was just gonna stay with m8s, so i'm not fucked in any way. but it still sucks big time, was looking forward to it
>>65302462
All of those bands have at least two of those elements you brought up. They are metal bands, objectively. Whether they're "mallcore" or not is your jurisdiction, I suppose. I haven't listened to much of Cattle Decap or The Black Dahlia Murder, but I like the rest. I don't look for whoever is the most heavy or brutal, I look for whoever puts out music I like.
>>65302509
I said that these bands ape Cryptopsy meaning that they try replicating their sound but do a piss poor job at it. However modern Cryptopsy is pretty mallcorish even if classics like Blasphemy Made Flesh and None So Vile were landmarks for brutal death metal.
>>65302429
>le trve kvlt post
>kill me
kill yourself, desu
Ghost is good but I do not consider them metal.
>>65302462
Contemporary bands that fit your standards ?
>>65302568
Okay.
>>65302462
Gojira have their own sound though, I like the link and when I first listened to it I thought it was different while still respecting its influences.
so all memes aside can we all agree that this is actually a fucking great album?
>>65302566
You take things too seriously desu
>>65302568
Ghost is an old-school rock revival band in the vein of early Black Sabbath and Rainbow, what's not to like?
>>65302568
That sounds reasonable
>>65302594
Absolutely not
>>65302580
Whoa whoa whoa, watch that G-word son.
>>65302613
do you care to elaborate why?
even though its probably my nostalgia but i can listen to it in any situation and it never fails to uplift my mood
>>65302580
TRIGGERED
>>65302619
Vektor.push_back(new TERMINAL_REDUX);
>>65300562
I dig 'em
https://youtu.be/Qoc0_nobLzo
Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p10lUL6CxBQ
>>65302574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpObaPf8AxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3G6SI6EmHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNY-GXkM8eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZLgwhtyss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtIUet_wYdY
>>65302706
its ok. But Retrogore has better songs imo.
>>65302706
>terminal redux
>>65302721
>this band photo
kek
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Asphyxer/3540335892
>>65302706
>termination redux
fucking really?
>>65302580
The Link's a great record. Wish they would've stuck to that style, but I still think they're a solid band.
>>65300130
ikr
>constant slipknot shitposting during nbbmn
>good
From Immortal's official FB page :
" IMMORTAL has completed the writing of their ninth full length studio album.
- This will be our darkest and coldest album in a long time: pure Blashyrkh metal the way our fans know it, with massive majestic riffs, grim frostbitten vocals and tales from our mighty realm. Fast and furious tracks, epic tracks and longer playtime than any of our previous albums.
Founding IMMORTAL member, lyricist and guitarist Demonaz is now also handling the vocals.
- The massive fansupport has been very inspiring and we will not let down the fans. The last year we have completed all the new songs and look forward to record our most passionate album in a long time. The songwriting process has been awesome and we are soon ready to start the recordings.
In a time when true and origin Black Metal is nearly dead, the band is in ultimate spirit.
- After the last years incidents it was time to go back to the roots to what this band is really about musically, and also to take the integrity of the band back to where it belongs. Cold, grim uncompromising Blashyrkh metal with a true feeling is what we deliver.
From 2010 until 2014, IMMORTAL wrote all the songs for the successor to "All Shall Fall", but when ex- member Abbath left the band in 2014, he changed the lyrics, song titles and recorded these songs for his so called "solo album".
- We had to focus on making a new album nearly from scratch, which is the main reason why things have taken this much time. We are now looking forward to record the new album and present it to all those who have shown their loyalty and support.
IMMORTAL has always been a unique and unstoppable force, and that goes for our fans as well. We will never change our music or attitude.
The album title and song titles will be revealed soon."
What should we expect here?
>>65302786
I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY
>>65302816
EYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
IT'S THE ONLY THING
>>65302833
THAT SLOWLY STOPS THE AAAAACHE
>>65302813
it'll be better than abbath for sure
>>65302813
I don't care, I'm fucking excited for what Demonaz is gonna do
>>65302813
im excited desu
>>65302845
I'M NOT GONNA MAKE IT
>>65299888
The Gathering - Mandylion
>>65302849
I trust Demonaz more because he was the one who created the first few albums so I hope he goes back there. Not saying that Immortal's newest stuff isn't good but they sound a lot more different than Demonaz's albums
>>65302834
Memes like this should not drown in a time of crazy fucking announcements
LET THIS MEME BE SEEN
>>65302879
true
but his arm is fucked up tho
>>65302834
>that little guy on the left
>>65302872
what have I done
>>65302834
the funny part is even underage nerd Mexicans would probably behead most of the salty Kyles and Brents in this general
>>65302834
I wish I discovered metal at early age, envy these kids a little desu
