Is this the most glorified and overrated 6/10 album ever? Are people shitposting when they say this is a 'classic'?
How can you sit through that record and honestly think it's only a 6/10? In the off chance you aren't baiting, you are really fucking stupid and you should stop listening to music.
That boy needs therapy
>>65192449
/thread
>>65192449
I'm genuinely not shitposting. What is so special about it? I will admit that the cover is stunning and there are some really great songs on here but it really isn't that good as people make it out to be, I would say anything above a 6 or a 7 is overrating it. It seems like people are just saying this album is great because of the 'mystery' behind the group or perhaps it's Australians meme'ing it as a classic because their country has no actual talent?
>>65192505
this album made plunderphonics
it's the most overrated 5/10 release ever. It benefited from being in a genre that indie rock listeners feel the need to be able to name drop as something they like without actually putting any effort into understanding or listening to it.
>>65192524
this + endtroducing...
>>65192505
>im not shitposting
>but other people who love the album must be shitposting
lame bait my nig
>>65192524
Fuck you you cock ass cunt face indie rock dipshit. Plunderphonics was invented by John Oswald DECADES prior. I hope you fucking die.
>>65192524
DJ Shadow's album came before this and it's a much better ""plunderphonics"" album. Also sampling has existed for a long time dude. I think the sampling is good don't get me wrong but it's not revolutionary. Just because they used a lot of samples doesn't mean it make it good. Dilla could make a beautiful song out of like 2 samples it takes like 6 guys 50-100 samples to make a somewhat good song. It's sad.
Also once again. Give me a genuine reason why this album deserves the status it gets, just blurting out a meme word like plunderphonics isn't going to cut it. This album is simply a meme at this point.
>>65192568
:'(
>>65192505
>perhaps it's Australians meme'ing it as a classic because their country has no actual talent?
Your opinion means less and less as you post.
>>65192609
You meme cunts with your Dilla and DJ Shadow and "plunderphonics is just sampling" make me fucking sick. I wish I didn't have to deal with this shit daily but these hack fraud indie fucktards decided to make another mediocre shit album so now I have to hear the same misinformed dumb shit from /mu/tants daily
>>65192660
>lots of people like this album that I don't like
>they must all be memeing
If you actually want a legit answer, for me personally I like the its mellowness while still being a dance album. While I haven't listen to Endtroducting, I did listen to Donuts and it really felt more like a collection of ideas while SILY has more defined songs (though I wouldn't call anyone who likes Donuts a memer).
>>65192987
stop this shit. these are not the only three plunderphonics albums. Donuts isn't even a plunderphonics album. The only reason you compare these three is because you don't actually care about electronic music and have sampled the bare minimum to pretend you have an opinion for /mu/.
new avalanches
>65193043
>65193043
>65193043
>>65193038
Let's hear some recs
>>65193038
Did I say I was an expect in the genre? No, I was just explaining why I liked the album
>>65193092
Rec killing yourself
It's an electronic dance music album with a very unique feel to it due to the plunderphonics approach it took towards making it. There's no album or music that exists like this album. The closest is some of the more sample-heavy OPN stuff, but even that is so far from it since it lacks the groovy/rhythmic stuff on this album.
SILY is better than Endtroducing imo. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out it's at least an 8/10. What does that say about you, OP?
>>65193092
John Oswald and some reading to start you lazy fuck
>>65193130
Nice cop out. Do you admit near-total ignorance in electronic music unprompted when you're being ~totally subjective~?
>>65192740
>implying Aussies drink Fosters
You make me sick
>>65192609
>J Dilla
>Talented
>>65193215
Why are you so mad about things you don't like?
It's almost like people have different values when it comes to what music they like.
>>65193279
>different values
liking avalanches is 9/10 a side effect of not trying any other electronic music. it isn't a difference of values if you don't give other things a chance.
>>65193320
The point is that I enjoy it. What's the problem here?
>>65193437
You keep calling it great plunderphonics because you think the genre name makes you sound eclectic but you've listened to max 1 other one. You're a cancerous dilletante
>>65192740
We don't even drink fosters. If you change it to vb then spot on
>>65192505
what are 10/10's to you?
>>65193485
I'm not the poster who was talking about plunderphonics.
I like it for what it is, and I acknowledge that there's much more to the genre than that , if it even falls within that category. I don't care if it's "great" "plunderphonics" or not, it satisfies me and that's what matters.
This is my favorite album of all time and has saved my life on multiple occasions. And i'm an avid listener of electronic music.
>>65193320
electronic music is my favorite genre to listen to in general and SILY is my favorite album of all time.
Since I Left You and Frontier Psychiatrist are fantastic. The rest is pretty forgettable desu.
>>65193171
>google this john oswald tit
>just some godforsaken protovaporwave desecrating the late michael jackson with bikini drawn on in microshop paint
>dont even bother with reading
>music is better than reading
>>>/lit/ you total boob
>>65194874
You're forgettable you fucking piece of shit. Rim me
>>65192505
>Hype for this band arises given the circumstances
>Out of the fucking blue everyone hates it
le ebin memez
>>65194895
This
>>65192408
Agreed. Fucking overrated piece of shit.
>>65194832
what other electronic music do you like
>>65195262
I like Ricardo Villalobos, Moritz Von Oswald Trio, Underworld, Children of the Bong, Aphex Twin, Laura Grabb, Juan Atkins, Moodymann, J. Tijn, Sos Gunver Ryberg, Nidia Minaj, Mathias Aguayo, Plastikman, Autechre, Aphex Twin, Drexciya, Aril Brikha, Tin Man, Global Communication, Anna Meredith, Ike Release, DÅRFDHS, Cylob, Matmos, Move D, Shackleton, Wolfgang Voigt, Omar-S, Jlin, Vladislav Delay off the top of my head
>>65192408
It's the younger people on the board who promote this album so much. Along with albums like MPP, Kanye West's discography, and others that don't take too much effort or intelligence to comprehend.
>>65195631
listed Aphex Twin twice lmao sorry I'm tired af
its very accesible and poppy so basically just the right thing for people that usually only listen to rock music or something and are not really interested in "electronic music".
>>65192524
I like SILY but this is very wrong and I don't know how people can still believe it. The genre started in the 80s and there were plenty of heavy sample based artists and albums before it. It's impressive what they managed to do, I agree, but all it is is a good sample based album, it was nowhere near the first or somehow "made" the genre.
>>65195823
I guess I'm an exception to the rule then because this is my fav album and listen to a lot of electronic (i made the list of some of the electronic music I like a few posts above)
Someone recommend heavily sample based music that isn't Endtroducing or SILY since there's apparently plenty of good stuff besides them but people never name any.
I have listened to stuff besides those two, I just want more sample heavy music because I love it.
This is more glorified and overrated, except this is more like a 5/10. People just feel like they have to love this because he went crazy. It would be more in the 3-4/10 range if it weren't for Interstellar Overdrive. Totally cheap, third rate 1976 bubblegum. It would sound ironic any year outside of 1967. Syd Barrett wasn't a genius, and his whole take on psychedelia was absolutely grating. His solo albums are even worse. Pink Floyd improved immensely after Syd Barrett was out, it's just unfortunate that they had this absurd association with him for the rest of their existence and afterward. They'd be far more respected had they never been fronted by this autistic, drugged out child.
>>65195893
John Oswald started this genre when he composed "Power" in the mid-'70s.
>>65195995
has nothing to do with the topic. create your own thread or kys.
Etoh is best track, fite me
>>65196011
Trying more to get recs for stuff I haven't heard of, more obscure stuff, though I still haven't listened to Oswald yet.
I found The Avalanches by accident and it opened the doors for electronic music for me. 10/10 will always recommend. Might even go see them at Splendur in da Grass, Australia for lols. Anyone else?
>>65192408
Yeah, its utterly fucking average and only liked for the memes and muh sampling bullshit. Anyone who thinks this is great you can completely disregard their taste in music
>>65196371
Do you just not like sampling in general?
>>65196371
you're utterly fucking average.
kys
>>65192524
Who gives a shit about fucking plunderphonics when its just another name for sampling. God you retards are impressionable, the same pitchfork drones that love trap and other garbage review sites decide to like this month
>>65196371
>disregarding's someone's taste over 1 album
>>65196399
>kys
Fuck off back to youtube
>>65196411
Plunderphonics is more used for stuff that's entirely or almost entirely made through sampling.
>>65196383
Sampling is fine, but to act like avalanches are amazing cause they use samples to make generic mash up core is disgusting
>>65196423
Beats dealing with an autistic shitposter like you anyday
>>65196454
Yes, now fuck off and kill yourself.
>>65196453
It is pretty impressive though. People do overrate them I think, like the people who say they were one of the first artists to do something similar, but I'm just amazed at the amount of outright hate that started when the stuff about the new album started coming up recently. I mean "generic mash up core"? Holy shit you need to get a hold of yourself.
If SILY is my fav album of all time am I overrating them or do I just connect a lot with this particular album and not as much with any other album.
hint: it's the second one
>>65192408
Nope, this is. But more of an overglorified 5/10.
>>65193137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1U5_EruNpg&list=PLS5g_K6WzDf1mNDDSplWYniqJJWzDkfcb
>>65195946
This is more turntablism-oriented, but there's a decent amount of sampling on here.
>>65192408
the edit that was originally created is better than the released mix
>>65192408
go on a roadtrip with your homies driving accross the country in the dead of night cruising to this album and come back and tell me its a 6/10
>>65196746
Cool, thanks. Just picked one kind of at random, Memory and Money. The first song kind of grated on me but I'm on the second one right now and it's getting more enjoyable. Not as melodic as SILY (and really that's an issue with most plunderphonics) but I'll check some more of these out at some point.
>>65197085
Those are all more artsy turntable music, you have the alternate turntable music based hip hop option too;
>turntablism
Cut Chemist - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S-aVCbiA-s
DJ Shadow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ArSb3lCc28
Kid Koala - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbFIGFv4GLQ
DJ Krush - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVjgRlto8PI
Rob Swift - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJX7s6_FRM
Roc Raida - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Fnj9IESN8
QBert - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSl0xQp5xJM
Mix Master Mike - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW2e1kGyKcw
Kentaro - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6myJJbMJ2dQ
DJ Craze - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCA4yiPfFIg
>turntable music
Christian Marclay - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFH4XHU228
Martin Tetreault - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXjGwbVlO9o
eRikm - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpaUgwKlQBw
DJ Sniff - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Z1_9FChu0
Otomo Yoshihide - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teiua5kpVO4
Martin Tetreault & Kid Koala - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q_rGe6C1S4
Philip Jeck - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geaIlnlS8bQ
Jérôme Noetinger - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2MoSvEVzRQ
John Cage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLDxqnksY80
Ground Zero - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTKy3yswbG8
>>65197085
Most of those albums are more experimental and "out-there", except for the Kid Koala album. If you want a sample-heavy album similar to SILY, go with >>65196722
>>65197085
>>65197108
There's also kopirat - mayan mix, which is more hip-hop-oriented (ie, more scratching, a bit more laid-back) but with a decent amount of samples and entirely accessible.
>>65195995
>Syd Barrett wasn't a genius, and his whole take on psychedelia was absolutely grating.
>>65192609
>>65192408
>>65192505
plunderphonics isn't just sampling, it's constructing songs purely from samples. That hadn't been done before, it basically invented post-modern music
I'm seeing them in August.
>>65198676
Barrett and Madcap Laughs are both garbage
>>65198733
this is either very low-quality bait or complete horseshit from a stupid ape of a poster. post-modern music began in the '50s with John Cage, and plunderphonics began in 1975 with John Oswald, who coined the term and had a career spanning decades of producing music of that kind
>>65195995
>listening to Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Overdrive and not getting high off music
does anyone have a /mu/ essentials image saved from 2010 or 2011 or something?
please upload?
>>65200103
Look on the mutronica blog.
THE AVALUNCHES INVENTED MUSIC YOU FUCKING MONG
>>65200168
THAT WAS THE BEATLES YOU MONG!
>>65192408
I agree. I listened to this album a lot, but got boring after awhile. Endtroducing never gets boring.
>>65201376
Endtroducing gets boring by the time the 6th track sounds exactly like the others what are you saying
I think you meant to post OK Computer's album cover, OP.
>>65196722
It's cool, but still doesn't have SILY's atmosphere, nor, again, the approach to groovy beats SILY has either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve48Riz5B4w
Lol none of these albums ppl are posting are better than SILY by any stretch of the imagination. Y'all are just convincing yourselves of this to be contrarian.
>>65203132
some people prefer that avant-garde techniques be used to explore new horizons of timbre, make commentary on politics, and other such things instead of being put in the service of a home listening record that tries its hardest to convince people who don't like dance music that it's the best of its genre. If it's dance, it's bloated. If it's home listening material, it's too simple.
>>65198733
>it's constructing songs purely from samples. That hadn't been done before
It had been done plenty of times before SILY.
>>65192408
It's a good record but it's mainly for entry into the broader scope of the genre. Those who never went beyond it think it's perfect, simple as.
its the most "albums where the first track is the only good track" album ever
>>65203132
yh ppl our sooo stupid lol its all about this generation desu like get with the times lmao im so glad ppl like us have great taste and can listen to pop but be real connosaurs, we listen to swans tho we patrish
>>65196641
Kill yourself my dude
>>65204605
fuck off
>>65194895
he's right you guys
the album was always a 10/10 in the eyes of /mu/
>>65194895
Yep, OP is just another run-of-the-mill contrarian with nothing substantial to say
>>65204653
all those other albums are in the same generation as Avalanches. I'm not claiming 2 be patrician but I've listened to many of those albums and none of them are as consistent and in-depth in concept, at all, point blank.
>>65205887
besides John Cage***, ofc some were made earlier than SILY but not a whole generation apart from The Avalanches to where it's a "this generation vs last generation" thing
>>65205917
And Negativland.
>>65206152
the 1980's and the late 90's are not a generation apart.
>>65192505
You seem to think that just because you don't like it very much (which is completely fine) that you can't fathom how other people would feel differently than you.
>>65204605
>What is Electricity
>>65208039
I should point out that this obviously isn't the only good one. imo there isn't a bad song on this album
>>65204605
>With My Baby
>Close to You
>A Different Feeling
>Electricity
>Etoh
>Little Journey
>Live at Dominoes
>Extra Kings
>not good
>>65196641
i dont agree at all but hey whatever floats ur boat
