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Any Mixcraft 7 users here?
>>64653023
stop posting this forced nigger chimp meme
>>64653165
make me
reason user here.
i'm more of the composition type of musician, so i find the general mixing/mastering/production very hard and it takes me a billion times longer than writing an actual song.
i can't get the "crystal clear" sound down. reason tracks always sound a little too synthetic, too "computerlike" to me in the end. sometimes it's what i want, but not when i'm trying myself on a mainstream dance song.
>>64653323
show us something?
guys, i downloaded a cracked version of kontakt and i cant find any cracked libraries on rutracker, i just want some good keys,strings and sax please help a nigga out
>>64653860
have you tried kickass to?
>>64653978
i did but everytime i download it it says its a demo version
>>64653323
tape saturation/harmonic distortion
add subtle pitch bends here and there
also post a clyp it
>>64653323
The fixed grid is the problem. You fight it by using the groove pool on anything that's too quantized, especially drums
>>64653860
go to tpb
hey guys can you give me some feedback on this one? this is my first real attempt at mixing.
https://clyp.it/yedszebm
>>64653165
stop posting /b/-tier edgy racism
>>64654205
sounds good imo
>>64653978
i did but everytime i download it it says its a demo version
>>64654768
I don't know sorry m8, I will try to install it myself later on. gonna tell ya if if i know anything
https://clyp.it/mi5vzk2w#
any feedback? I'm still busy in the production process so i didnt focaliza at all on mixing
>>64654818
not bad, but the little breaks in between don't sound so good imo, kinda off beat.
>>64654865
thanks. i just skipped parts of the track while recording the clip, that 's why of the pauses
I just downloaded my first DAW as well as a couple of VSTs. Where the hell do I go from here?
I have no idea where to start. Are there any exercises I can do to get my creativity going?
I'm sorry if this question gets asked frequently, and thanks in advance.
>>64653860
there are tons of cinesamples and spitfire libraries on rutracker
Alright /prod/ I'm about to become a synth fucking expert and learn to make my own patches; give me a definitive list of the best synths I should torrent
>>64654948
what to type to get them?
i havent found anything senpai
>>64654919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwxRXzaEAH0
>>64654959
"spitfire kontakt"
"cinesamples kontakt"
>>64654953
You're going about this wrong: whatever synth you have at hand/came with your DAW is enough to learn how to make your own patches.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ04PwFvui1BCUAE9wxmOqHE51mrDv8Ui
See you in three hours, but you will probably not be looking for synths to torrent then.
>>64654989
thank you my doood
>>64654997
I shall take your advice anon
>>64654919
watch some tutorials on how to use your daw then i suggest you downloading a drum kit (check the last link in the pastebin for some drumkits out), then make a drum beat, kick snare hats etc. and then try adding some instruments with midi, make a melody, add some effects like reverb delay or phase and so on
>>64655009
they take a fucking long time to download but it's so worth it
i love my copy of world percussion 2.0
>>64653843
>>64653994
>>64654142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXfEXDI_KjE
from there you can listen to a couple of other tracks with the same problem.
sorry for not using clyp it... forgive...
>>64654997
massive & fm8 are pretty dope, there's a youtube link to an in depth synthesis video series in the pastebin, check it out!
>>64655073
do you know anything about mid/side processing?
>>64655073
not enough variation in midi velocity
https://clyp.it/hqvnx5ls
I made some dubtech.
Any suggestions?
>>64652945
>http://www.rizon.net/chat
I want to make a sexy piano in FL that doesn't sound techno.. any advice?
>>64655158
what do you mean? a melody or a sample or synth preset or what?
>>64655202
I am trying to make a melody but for some reason when I use FL keys or any synth preset it sounds classical or like some electronic bullshit. So far I've created this.
>>64655230
can you show me an example of what you want to create? like a soundclip or a song ?
>>64655264
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcVASXIDKuk
It sounds light and smooth. Maybe I'm being too vague.
>>64655332
>>64655230
dude get a proper synth like Massive or sylenth1, I guess you can't even programm your own synths with this FL keys synth?
>>64655506
>>64655230
FL Keys is more of a ROMpler with piano and rhodes sounds, not really a synth.
>>64655506
>Massive
I will give it a try.
Has anybody gotten a cracked version of Sylenth1 on Mac that works in 64bit?
>>64655506
>can't get the sound i want from this piano plugin
>just use another one with more presets durrr
>'' producers ''
kek;
Do .dll plugins work with mac? I know they don't work with logic but what about ableton on mac?
>>64654963
>>64655053
Thanks mates. I'll try making a simple beat in the step sequencer and then mess around with effects/melodies from there.
Just to clear things up, I'm more curious about how to approach the creative aspect rather than the technical one.
Can anyone with a cracked Mac version of Reaktor 6 help me out? I downloaded the dada torrent.
Every time I try to create my own thing by draggint something from the sidebar into the structure, I get this message: "Error while reading Macintosh HD:Users:Shared:[type of sound]
This product is not activated and can not be imported"
I replaced all of the plugins and apps with the cracks and yet it still does this. I've reinstalled the torrent a few times and it doesn't work. I rolled back to Yosemite, where others said it worked for them, but it still doesn't work. I've tried changing the directory from Shared to the Library in the Applications folder but it still doesn't work.
This is driving me absolutely crazy; can anyone help out?
>>64655602
mind showin me how to make a reese bass on this synthie ?
>>64655664
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTkN8BQqv1M
not directly prod related, but it helped me out a lot.
>>64655602
more presets? you mean more options to manipulate/modulate your own sound/create synths from scratch?
>>64655780
Windows has a register called 'regedit' which saves all the serials and certificates of all the programms installed.
If a cracked programm suddenly didnt work, I'd have to delete the certificate and then reinstall it in order to make it work again.
I don't know if you can do this on a mac tho
Any recommendations on some pedals? Looking to add some flavor to my volcano bass and GC is having a sale apparrently
Is the latest Serum optimized? The demo is a 2014 build and it uses a truck-ton of DSP compared to every other wavetable synth.
>>64655664
>I'm more curious about how to approach the creative aspect
Well since most computer music is midi based, just get a keyboard and start playing. If you don't know how to play the keyboard you better get started now because it's a bitch...I'm totally shit at it myself.
>>64655988
If you're into amp sims/don't mind using a computer, I recommend using amplitube/guitar rig, and the line 6 fbv shortboard.
It's awesome, you can use it as a pedalboard, and you even get an expression pedal you can fine tune if you want to.
>>64655122
>mid/side processing
what exactly do you mean? can you give me hints? i use panning/reverb on the mids, and some side chaining here and there, not as much as you might expect though maybe
>>64655132
on which parts, the drums?
>>64656350
also, do both of you think it sounds terrible, or at least "ok"?
>>64656350
>i use panning/reverb on the mids, and some side chaining here and there
that's not what mid/side means
does my rhythm excite you?
https://clyp.it/mp3vnf0t
>>64656405
>https://clyp.it/mp3vnf0t
funniest shit ive heard in a while
>>64656387
well, like i said, i'm not much of a producer... it's a really tough task for me as a composer. i envision the "sound" only to some extent.
(it's also really strange how today's view of a musician really means to be able to not only compose notes and structure them together, but also fully produce and mix (two wholly different worlds), manage and play live, advertise and sell all by themselves.)
>>64656486
are you also not much of a googler?
>>64656486
I think anything you compose should work on the piano as well. I make electronic music too, and I always test my pieces on the piano as well. Relying on cool synth sounds for your music feels like a gimmick to me.
>>64656545
well. do you think some other DAWs have better stock samples to begin with? because some of my friends who have no idea how to actually compose a track use FL i.e. and seem to get much better "sounding" results, even though they themselves don't have much knowledge of producing.
>>64656592
stock sounds aren't really where i'd look no matter what daw you're in. starting with the right sounds is a hugely neglected thing by the people who keep spouting the "learn with what you've got!" mantra
>>64656624
I was just about to say that
>>64655658
No, they don't work, not natively at least.
There are a few plugin hosts like Plugwire (think of it like a Wine wrapper) that you can pipe audio to from your DAW and will work once you compensate for the latency it introduces - setting up for VST instruments is a little different but it can be done too:
See image related for more info
'EQ cheat sheet'
very useful
>>64656250
I got a MIDI keyboard from my brother a while back, and I have a very basic grasp of how to play it. I'll try delving a bit deeper and see what I can come up with.
>>64655803
Thanks. I'll check it out.
>>64655883
OS X follows the "Everything is a file" philosophy from UNIX, so each activation cert will be held in its own config file (usually in xml format) somewhere - usually in "Application Support" directory.
Someone convince me to not buy Pro Tools.
What DAW should I use instead?
>>64656726
Pro tools is a good daw.
>>64656748
It is. That's what scares me. I've used it and I like it more than any other DAW I've used, but I don't want to shell out the money if I could find a decent free DAW and spend that money on new equipment.
I've considered that maybe I just haven't bothered to give the free DAWs I've tried before a good enough chance, trying them out for longer before giving up.
>>64656788
If you already use it and like it just fucking buy it...or you could waste loads of time working out how to use a different DAW?
I'd rather just pay for it and use something I like than fuck about finding something else because I don't want to spend the money.
>>64656624
>>64656634
i concur, but in the case of reason it's kinda hard to find good synths and if you want to try some, you pay a fortune.
FL has tons of free VSTs, but i don't really like the pattern-workflow as it doesn't work for me. reason is intuitive and straight-forward, gotta love the rack-flipping and connecting cables to really understand where the audio signal goes.
cubase works like reason, so i like that...
not sure about logic, ableton...
>>64656264
That was actually meant to say Volca Bass. I figured a physical pedal would be pretty handy when noodling on the go but I'll definitely look into your advice. Thanks!
>>64656788
if you feel good with it, buy it, new equipment wont get you far if you are not one with your daw
>>64653165
>"stop posting this meme"
>uses meme slurs from a meme ascientific ideology
>>64653023
o shit whaddup
>>64655158
>piano
>that doesn't sound techno
yeah you're already done
Sorry if this is asked all the time, but can anyone recommend a good MIDI keyboard? It doesn't have to have super piano-realistic weighted keys, just something where I can mess around and put together melodies and chords, and have room for both hands. Pads and knobs and faders are cool but not required.
Currently looking at the Akai MPK 249, does anyone have any experience with it? Or with the 261?
>>64658471
Why not? Everyone will recommend [insert name of keyboard they bought here] anyway and if it suits you for learning what you want from a controller it's ideal, since it has features from most type.
>>64658678
>Why not? Everyone will recommend [insert name of keyboard they bought here] anyway and if it suits you for learning what you want from a controller it's ideal, since it has features from most type.
I figure I'll get a lot of different responses like that, but I thought I'd ask in case someone would say "no don't get that it's really flimsy" or recommend one that I never heard of so I can read more about it.
>>64658471
Novation launchkey looks like a good choice. I haven't played it myself. I have the alesis qx49, which I like for the most part. The pads suck though, and aren't really usable for like MPC style playing .
>>64658772
Fair enough, you have alternatives like M-Audio (Axiom Air will be similar price and features) and Novation Launchkey or Impulse that'll also suit you fine for similar money - build quality around that price point will be mostly the same, in that they'll feel plasticky but any one of them is fine for just starting out when all you want to find out is what you'll want from a more expensive, sturdier, controller if you're starting to invest more.
>>64658471
you can get a really decent keyboard second hand - there's so much scope for upgrading them that people quite often sell ones in v good condition after a year or so
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>>64657617
niggers >>>/out/
>>64659625
lol did you forget that you aren't in your containment hugbox echochamber board anymore?
>>64659670
Please tell me why is my mixing game so mediocre
https://clyp.it/mu1kstgp
https://clyp.it/klefdaen ( i think this one is better but opinions of more skilled anons wouldn't be superfluous )
Also i don't know if i like clyp's new skin or not
>>64654205
It's good.
>>64660302
are you using a 90's mobile phone as your DAW? lmfao
>>64660302
>https://clyp.it/mu1kstgp
stop abusing the arpeggiator
needs more cowbell
Hey guys. I need some help. How do I make this mix sound full? I want it to sound big and epic, especially near the end, but it just doesn't sound like that. Any advice? https://clyp.it/sj02zm2p
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>>64661013
go to file --> new
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>>64661130
simply ebin
>>64661013
use some fucking effects and learn to mix
I want to make something but I'm not sure what to do
somebody pick a genre for me to fuck around with. I usually just make beats or deep house
>>64661672
sci-fi strategy
I've always tried new things by building simple songs around them as an exercise, but today I just spent the afternoon fooling around with my plugins completely without the intention of making anything useful.
So I didn't, but holy shit did I learn a lot. Writer's block is fucking awesome.
>>64661794
post a clyp it of what u learned lil nigga
>>64661299
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>>64661148
come on homies. i get the mix isn't good. thats why im asking here. i wouldnt come here if i knew the mix was good
>>64660302
I think the first mix is better than the second actually. There are a lot of things that go into a good mix but one thing that I noticed was eq, try to cut out unnecessary frequencies. In particular, since so many instruments overlap in the "low-mids" area, it usually is necessary to cut around 250 - 450 Hz or somewhere in there on almost every instrument (not always, but usually). The second mix in particular sounds like it has a huge amount of low mids. It makes things sound kind of "boxy"
Also high pass almost everything except bass and kickdrums. You can low pass stuff if you don't need the high end also. Basically just focus on cutting stuff out to get a cleaner sound. Then from there you can work on the compression and whatnot.
Anyone know of some good VST for percussions similar to that found on Merriweather Post Pavillion?
I'm in particular looking for all the sort of, uh, drum sticks hitting the rim of a tom, or two drum sticks together types of sound. Every single drum or percussion VST I've found seem to completely lack sounds like those.
>>64661013
please stop making music or at least learn how to before you post again
nigger
>>64661013
well this is just huh wow
>>64661013
Is this from the new Death Grips album?
>>64663134
I like weird fusion stuff. Sorry if that offends you though. I came here for advice not on the music, but the mix. Hmm. Am curious though, what you don't like about the music. Maybe you think its too random?
>>64663134
please stop making shit posts or at least learn how to make less shitty posts before you post again
edgelord
im not even that guy, i just never understand when a bunch of people all simultaneously feel the need to fart out these "LOLOL U SUKK" comments to people who just want feedback
>>64663174
It's just hilarious
Do you know about keys?
>>64663212
fuck off soundcloud kid
not even your own family likes you, orphan
>>64661013
I actually don't see why everyone is acting so scandalized. This isn't particularly absurd, weird or shitty in term of composition - well, a few notes are really fucking out of place, but I guess it somewhat makes the style what it is.
I'd say, either find some much, much better samples for your instruments - the xylophone and piano are fine, but the strings and other sound really fucking bad. The percussions are okay at best.
Just dig the web for better samples, sounds, etc. And if nothing comes to mind, stop trying to make music that seems like it has real instrument but doesn't - embrace the fact that you are working with synthesizers. Learn about sound design, shit like that.
This mix is pretty shitty, but that's just how bad the sounds are. It would definitely work much better with real musicians, obviously, but eh. Maybe invest in some real instruments so that you can at least play a few of the parts for real? (shouldn't be hard to find a tambourine & a snare drum, for example, and record them decently)
>>64663259
I was inspired by a lot of frank zappa. what do you think is out of place though. Since almost all the chords i used were sus chords, that allows me to improvise almost everything on the chords, even thirds. If they were major or minor chords, I wouldn't be able to do that, so I don't see why everyone is acting crazy about the keys.
>>64663259
>>64661013
Also yeah, don't pay attention to those guys laughing at you, you don't need to impress anyone in here. This is actually some kinda neat stuff in term of composition, though I feel it really lacks distinctive melodies - if you're going to be going all weird and dissonant like that, it would be cool if you had a few motifs that you re-use more obviously throughout the song. Maybe fuck around with them too, inversions, variations, etc.
As of now, it really feels like messy improvisation. Maybe that was what you were aiming for, I don't know. I like the rhythm at places, and the occasional out-of-key-ness adds some nice little touches of dissonance, but the whole thing feels a bit too messy, perhaps. I'd advice listening to some classical music, maybe fugues by Bach or something like that - get an idea of how a composer can do a lot of variations over limited melodies.
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>>64663321
This was the style I was going for. This album is what really opened my eyes to these type of melodies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2EbX3toK_E
Sure zappa is king but I'm trying what could I say...I think I just need to get better at my rhythm sections
This is probably a stupid question, and you guys are gonna make fun of me for it.
I tend to hi-pass then compress. I've noticed that compression adds a bit of low end. Should I use a hi-pass both before and after the compressor?
>>64663321
>Since almost all the chords i used were sus chords, that allows me to improvise almost everything on the chords, even thirds. If they were major or minor chords, I wouldn't be able to do that
That's... not exactly like this works. I don't know if you have a keyboard right now, but say that my chord progression goes Csus, Dsus, Gsus, Asus.
On their own, none of those chords give any indication of minor or major thirds, but by grouping them in the same chord progression, it's almost impossible for a listener to not hear the song as being in C major or F major - simply because, well, all those chords together cover all the notes of a C major scale except the B (or Bb, if it was in F).
Because of that, in that theoretical chord progression, playing a Eb over the Csus chord, or an F# over the Dsus is pretty risqué, because it goes against the listener's expectation of what the scale should be, based on the chord progression. It can work, but it doesn't always, and there are some instances in your piece (couldn't point to specific moments) where I feel it doesn't. Opinions, but eh, what do you want, I'm criticizing here.
My point is, you shoudln't think of what notes you use within only the context of what chord is played, but also in the context of what chords came right before it, and what chords come afterward.
Now, as I said earlier, a little dissonance is cool and if you're going for Zappa-esque (which now that you say it is real fucking obvious, actually), you're going to need it. But I just think you overdo it. Dissonance loses its power if it's everywhere, in a way.
Have you tried writing stuff that *doesn't* have much dissonance? As an exercise, I mean - like a fugue, for example. Even if you're not interested in that style of music, I'd suggest you give it a try - it's a great exercise in the sense that, by understanding how traditional harmony & melodies work, you can subvert it in more intelligent and deliberate ways.
What gear would you guys buy if you had $1000?
>>64663600
adam a7x
>>64663563
Well, I might be completely wrong here, but:
I think that when you high pass, you essentially "lower" all the low frequencies, while the high frequencies stay the same. Which means that you end up with a mix that has more high-end than low-end.
So when you feed that through the compressor, your compressor will only lower the volume when shit is too loud - and if your mix has more high frequencies than low frequencies, then the frequencies that trigger the compressor will be the high ones, and those are the bits that will get, well, compressed.
... I think? That may actually not at all be how compressors work - I have no idea whether they take frequency into account at all and not just the general amplitude of the wave.
But anyway, I would say on the whole, avoid too much compression on the general mix, and avoid hi-pass filters on a general mix, too. A bit of compression is fine, but if you're going to EQ, just have normal band stuff, no high or low pass filters.
That being said, ideally, your mix shouldn't *need* effects being applied on the whole thing. You want to get to that point where each individual part sounds good enough that you can just paste them together and have the whole thing sound good
>>64663566
First of all thank you for your responses. I see what you mean now in regards to chord progressions. Still, most of the improvisation I used sounded normal to me. I don't like blatant disonnance either man. I guess I should be careful in the future though. As for your last question, I have done a lot of stuff with a less dangerous harmonic structure, classical esque stuff. Here, let me show you some of them: https://clyp.it/artbmgxe
https://clyp.it/xjl3zvl2
https://clyp.it/2ihkfwbb
The thing is they get boring after a while you know man. I can't stand those simple harmonies. They just feel bland to my ear you know. Anyway, The second one is kind of like a fugue, so check that out I guess. The first one is more easy but still has some counter point.
>>64663238
keys would make that 10x worse you mongoloid
Feeling uninspired. When I try to make music, I want to get these certain elements of sound, but I can't. What to do?
>>64663675
you're largely spot on.
general purpose compressors do not take frequency content into account - you can get compressors that do act across specific frequency bands (mult-band compressors har har).
>>64663563
the reason you think the compressor is 'adding' low end is because of as the other anon stated:
the high frequency content triggers the threshold and is compressed - your compressor settings also mean that your low end is escaping the compression; this is how it should be - the compressor is used primarily to reduce dynamic range - you 'compress' the loud parts (make them quieter) and use the gain compesnation to bring the signal up after this compression has taken place - this last step means that your low-end content is now louder and also that the high end content is relatively less loud than is used to be prior to compression.
as for eq'ing before or after you could do either - i prefer later generally but the chain can get muddled during if it's a sound design task.
the only reason you might not want to eq twice during this process is if you're having phasing issues. high (or even low) passing can flip the phase of a signal with most general purpose eqs - so if you experience phase cancellation issues go back and adjust your effects chain.
>>64663705
>Still, most of the improvisation I used sounded normal to me
Yes, most of it does, but you have to also remember that you are hearing the song for probably the tenth time (at least) by the time you are recording the improvised solos, I assume. So you know the dissonances and shit, you know what to expect - composing in term of "what will someone who listens to this for the first time be remembering, expecting, feeling etc" is actually a very difficult skill, but I've always thought it was something to keep in mind no matter what style.
And see, I'm listening to that second piece of yours and yes, you do try to go for some classical-like counterpoint, but there are blatant instances of notes rather close that shouldn't really be there - they are in the right scale, but for example, playing an F over a C major chord (I'm saying this completely randomly)
Obviously you're not a classicalhead so it's normal you would make those mistakes - especially if you are used to thinking of that stuff as acceptable dissonance - but you know, I think it's still interesting to try and, from times to times, write very, hm, "strict" music.
If you want more harmonically interesting "strict" music, maybe take a look at some late 60's Beach Boys/Brian Wilson compositions? There's some great stuff going on there in term of what notes to choose over what chord and what scale, there, with all the vocal harmonies, with more complex chords than, say, Bach would use.
But yeah, in the end make what you feel, man. I'm happy to provide criticism if you need, but in the end opinions are gonna collide. Just never get in a "I dont need to learn anymore" mood and you'll be good.
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>>64663158
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
I PRESENT TO YOU
THE FIRST EVER /prod/ DEATH GRIPS MASHUP
https://clyp.it/ly3sv2ox
I bet none of you amateurs can outdo me
>>64661013
I think part of the issue (aside of how other anons said that some of the samples aren't too good) is that it feels very on-the-grid. Nudging a few notes out of time just a bit will go a long way I think. As far as the mix goes, there's a lot of room for reverb there.
>>64663996
holy lel
>>64663158
>>64663996
holy shit
>>64663996
lol so memes #dank #nihilism #suhdude
>>64663996
Best thing on prod in a while
Thanks anon :)
>>64663883
When you say that general compressors don't take frequency into account, do you mean that they don't affect the frequency?
Would a normal compressor boost up the low ends that I just lowered with the hi-pass filter?
>>64664411
I'm really checking your triple dubs but no soundcloud here please
>>64659625
kek i love those guys
>>64664434
sorry didnt read the OP.
https://clyp.it/wqnoze5z?token=faa6090ae2be9a2f41c74110da6ab6b9
>>64663996
I can't decide what's worse: that image of grimes or the clyp.it
worst post
>>64664427
Not that anon but a compressor will affect the whole signal, the only thing a compressor changes is dynamics, regardless of frequency.
If you want to compress just a specific frequency, you probably want to use a multi-band compressor.
Where can I get ableton live 9 for free?
Ain't blowing dolla for it
>>64664516
imagine if she shit on your chest
>>64664549
i'd be more concerned if she rubbed her face on my chest
I've been using the maschine software as my daw and it's terrible. I've considered buying ableton but I'm intimidated by the complexity. Is it that bad to learn?
>>64664477
Good shit anon, nice triple dubs again.
Cool track, I would like to hear more going on in it. I like the change around 2:13 when the lead plays a sort of hook, I'd like to see more of that in the first half. Some more parts in general would probably be cool, but sounds good so far. Do you have any specific plans for what you want the track to become?
>>64664524
How often would one want to use the multi-band?
If you want the low end to consist of only the bass and the kick (to get a super tight mix), should you use the multi-band compressor on anything that has any low end at all?
>>64664543
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5109188
>>64664640
its worth it imo
you should get the demo or a crack and see how you like it first before you spend
ableton is the most overpriced daw there is for the suite version
>>64664640
Its funny eh, I've pretty much abandoned my DAWs since using Maschine, I like it that much
>>64664640
For me it was my first DAW, and I found it to be pretty easy to learn. However, I've heard of people coming to it from other DAWs and having some confusion about it. I think overall though its one of the easier ones. Personally it feels less cluttered than Maschine to me so I think that makes it easier, but I don't have a lot of Maschine experience.
TL;DR: Try the demo, or Live Lite which is super easy to get because it comes with everything nowadays.
>>64664477
it's very obvious you are new to music production
the track needs a lot more variation
also
>synthwave
>drum n bass
if you cross the two, the combined autism of both those music communities will collapse into a shitposting singularity, swallowing 4chan whole
dont do it nigger
>>64664477
Way too fucking repetitive and those drum samples sound like they are the first preset you'd get when opening whatever drum VST is shipped in with FL Studio.
It's cool that you have more variations aftewards, but I don't feel that the melodies are very interesting, make much sense and/or coorelate too well with the bassline. I can't really give you advice here other than to just practice and learn to write better melodies. That stuff comes with practice.
But yeah, god, please replace those drums.
>>64653165
>>64659625
>>64663134
>>64664724
>mom's not looking so i can type bad words on the internet!! XD
>>64664791
>mom is looking and she's proud of me for making a name for myself by injecting social justice into prd
kys soundcloud kid
>>64664844
we're not all teenagers lol get over it... once your age starts with a 2 or higher number you stop feeling the need to CHALLENJ LE TABOOS OF TEH LIBRUL ESTABLISHMENT by spouting racial slurs that you dont really mean
>>64664642
just trying to make a disco/synthwave influenced dnb track. im trying to flesh it out with some chord stabs but retain simpleness of it which is proving quite difficult. thanks for your feedback!
>>64664724
drum and bass is a repetitive genre. and its fun bringing elements from other genres into dnb. thanks for the feedback anyway.
>>64664747
i chose the samples to have the 80s arena style drums but i might switch them out if you hate them that much. thanks for the advice.
>>64664644
The simple but perhaps not super helpful answer is, "use it when it's needed." If you just need to trim out some low end of a pad or something so that it doesn't conflict with the kick and the bass, you can just do that with EQ. Or, if you want to keep that low end on the pad but just have it not interfere with the kick, you can use a side chained regular compressor to just duck out it's volume when the kick is happening.
I'll give you an example of when I use MB Compression. Let's say you have a kick drum that's constantly playing the same fundamental frequency of 55Hz. 55Hz is always gonna be the loudest frequency for the kick, so you want to work around it. You also have a bass guitar, which is NOT playing constant notes, but playing a bassline that has notes at different frequencies. We'll say that it has notes that are at 80Hz, 65Hz, and 55Hz.
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>>64664881
>hehe stop saying words that make me feel uncomfortable
stay in school sc kid
>>64664885
it is repetitive, but your track needs a lot more interest and coherence before it starts getting good
>>64664644
>>64664888
Now, you don't want to make your bass too quiet by ducking the volume across the board, but you want to make sure the bass' 55Hz note doesn't interfere with the kick at 55Hz. So, you can set the MB Compressor to only duck the volume at 55Hz, so that the higher notes still play normally, but the volume comes down a bit when it plays the same frequency as the kick.
You can also take it a step further and use a sidechain so that the MB compressor will duck the volume at 55Hz ONLY when the kick triggers it to.
In an ideal world, your kick won't ever operate at the same frequency as the bass (or the two won't ever hit the same frequency at the same time) but this can help sort out your low end in a pinch.
>>64664923
lol keep imagining that you're shocking and offending people instead of just making them sigh and roll their eyes
>>64664979
>>64664885
>i might switch them out if you hate them that much
That's an awful reason to change anything in your song, mate, haha.
But yeah, they don't really sound like "80's arena", they sound like modern electronic drum presets. I would advise you to go for more acoustic-sounding drums, and perhaps then process them with compress, reverb and shit to achieve a more 80's sound? Or, I don't know, dig for actual samples of 80's drums.
To be more specific (and not just "I recognize those drums therefore they are bad"), I think the problem is that they are *way* too loud and powerful. Loud in the sense that you mixed them a bit too much, well, loud, and "powerful" in the sense that they sound very ear-shattering, big, huge.
I'd personally go for something a bit more subtle & subdued. Your synths are energetic enough to "carry" the song without the needs for the drums to be too huge and BOOM BOOM BOOM.
Also, learn about compression sidechaining - once again, don't overdo it, but you will find it's an easy way to make drums feel more "present" without having them be actually too loud & obnoxious. It's also really fucking overused in electronic music, so watch out.
I TRIED SO HARD
>>64665091
Hola ¡Yeb!
>>64663996
I LMFAO'D
>>64665050
>am i alt-right enough yet? can i be part of le cool anti-establishment /pol/ club?
>>64665116
what kind of music do you think he would produce
>>64664885
>retain simpleness of it
Keeping it simple can have some of the best results but as you said it can be quite difficult. Listen really carefully to the tracks that are influencing you, and you might find that they're simple but have certain complexity about them to keep it interesting (subtle reverb, unconventional use of delay, etc).
>>64664979
>>64665050
>>64665141
Let's keep this shit out of /prod/ okay thanks, nobody cares about this let's talk about music/production
>>64665162
my bad, my love for rattling the retard cage sometimes overtakes my knowledge that these people will never go away if they get attention
>>64665141
>>64665182
>it's a soundcloud kid commits suicide because the only thing he has in his life is the attempted ruination of /prod/ episode
>>64665050
>twitter bio and tinder bio are identical
holy keks
>>64665156
death grips
he's probably their ghost producer
>>64665219
>it's a meme kids make all of the shittiest posts and only blame other people for the decline in thread quality episode
this is the last one you get, savour it lol
>>64665278
thanks it was tasty
people online told me this was good
its really not
>>64665381
i can tell it's shit just by the thumbnail
git gud dummy
>>64665050
where to find more of this
>>64665399
it actually has a few good patches but alot of them sound the same
im just glad it came bundles with a gear and i didnt pay for it by itself
>>64661013
you got a soundcloud? i like your stuff
>>64660471
Damn you got me
>>64663087
Thanks anon
>>64660876
All these arpeggios were [spoiler]authentically[/spoiler] written note by note in a piano roll anon
>>64665412
uncle cletus' double digit iq playhouse?
>>64665561
>huhu yes i am very intelligent
>atheist and a masters in womens studies
>so what if I dont work? im spreading the message social justice on /mu/
>>64661013
You have been replied to before just saying that there is more talent of composition in this thing that in half of the clyps posted here
Of course the sounds are really crappy
d'awww, he thought he'd get another (You) :)
>>64655506
>massive
>not using serum
>>64663996
can /prod grips/ be a thing we do now?
take shitty clyps and overlay them with death grips lyrics
>>64665780
is ther acapellas?
>>64664722
>However, I've heard of people coming to it from other DAWs and having some confusion about it
can confirm. tried moving from fl to it and i couldnt wrap my head around it. however bitwig was easy for me to learn even though its a lot like ableton
>>64665780
yeah we DO need more shitty paint by numbers "content" here. best to run this formula into the ground now that it's been funny once, right?
fuck i hate internet comedy
>>64665805
yeah you can get them on death grips website
was posted yesterday but i didnt dl them
i think the site is thirdworlds.com
>>64665818
*tips fedora*
>>64665805
>>64665835
http://thirdworlds.net/files/bottomless-pit-stems.zip
>>64665473
soundcloud.com/naisorav
haven't done more fusion stuff in a while though
>>64661013
>https://clyp.it/sj02zm2p
its shit and you should be ashamed of yourself you fucking nigger
>>64665835
lol what do fedoras have to do with memes being comedy paint-by-numbers?
>>64665924
t. comedy master
>>64665924
it doesnt have to be a joke you know
>>64665381
>i'm a nigger and i can't design interesting sounds using a rompler so this plugin must be shit
kys famalam
>>64665958
it does if it's a joke... which is what memes are
>>64665946
nope, just a guy who doesnt plug different parts into pre-existing jokes until they've been run into the ground entirely
>>64666030
t. meme master
>>64665915
What could I say to you mate. This is actually one of my favorite works I've done because I wasn't afraid to do improvise beyond the same chord progression.
>>64665780
please no
>>64666064
>What could I say to you mate
dont say anything to any of them, they're jonesing hard for attention and they've come here to get it for some reason
>>64666064
just shut up and kiss me senpai :3 i love you and i want to jerk you off niggaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>memes being comedy paint-by-numbers
boy, that sounds familiar
does anyone else have tinnitus here
>>64653018
I only use it occasionally, when my noob friends need my help
>>64666390
prolly tylo be chillin
>>64666332
i've posted it before
also why does this picture look like a cross between jake lloyd and ben shapiro?
https://clyp.it/xh3ncszq
suh dudes.
I think I'm finally done with this project. What do you think?
>>64667459
i think vine memes are even worse than /pol/ memes
>>64667469
>>64667459
that being said though, it's actually kinda cool
>>64667469
>vine memes
>>64667549
isn't that where "suh dude" came from?
>>64666492
ik i was the guy you were arguing with
also bc that's ben shapiro you genius
>>64663858
learn music theory and get better at producing
and do acid
What do you guys think of this?
https://clyp.it/1ojhgfgg
Does it need drums or is it fine on it's own?
>>64668458
>well you see, anon, you've failed at the most fundamentally important aspect of production: making something that appeals to ME personally!
>>64668406
i dont like the effects on the guitar
since these have the same fatar keys apparently which one should i get? i'm looking to make my own little studio space in the future and want a dank keyboard. are doepfers more expensive?
>>64669047
those are both expensive
i think the doepfer is more expensive though by like 100$
>>64668406
I'd say speed it up a bit, it begins to start dragging as it loops. But that advice comes from not knowing the future of what direction this draft is intended to go. My first and foremost criticism is the effects. There's nothing wrong with the effects, but the guitar's recording had a lot of background noise that is getting processed as well. What this does is creates a really fucking annoying hi pitched squeal because of whatever chain (chorus I assume) you have on the track. Google "denoising." You can do it with edison in FL to minimize the effect. Background noise is fine. White noise is fine. But processed noise is no bueno.
>Does it need drums or is it fine on it's own?
This could be a great intro to something bigger/more layered, or it could be the start of a more stagnant ambient piece. It's open to lots of possibilities at this stage so I'd just try experimentation. Lay a kick on it, see what happens. Lay some pads behind it, see what happens. Process of elimination. You have something nice, now just see what fits.
>>64668458
>not posting a clyp.it of his own
Let's see some 10/10 /prod/. You're the authoritative reference for musical talent and critique so I should be in for a treat!
>>64669314
i found the sl990 for 185 bucks but the shipping is a bitch at like 65. i like the doepfer though because it's so slim that i can slide it under my table you know? and have my faders and knobs on the table to keep things neat.
>>64669349
i would get the sl990 because im broke but that doepfer looks amazing
i assumed you were getting new theyre both like $500+ pricerange new
>>64669315
https://clyp.it/dngca1kf
>>64669382
hot damn i didn't know that lol. still that's way better than most controllers i've seen and i haven't heard anything bad about the doepfer. now if only the jlcooper fadermaster 4 motorized fader controller wasn't 3000 dollars...you see, i want to use the avid artist mix as my main controller for tracks, a doepfer midi dial controller for the early/late reflections of reverbs, and the fadermaster for the close, deca, far, surround mics of my samples.
>>64669421
>dissing other people's clyps when you make generic 2010step
>>64669315
Thanks for that great advice. I did kind of intend to add more to it, but fl is lagging too much to work consistently.
I'll denoise it later too. I'll also see how some kick would sound, maybe a brush snare?
>>64669434
the gear market is fucked for controllers
everything easily affordable is basically shit and anything decent costs alot even used
>>64669528
>not posting a clyp.it of his own
Let's see some 10/10 /prod/. You're the authoritative reference for musical talent and critique so I should be in for a treat!
>>64669539
fug. i guess i'm saving up then past the coin needed for my tuition. honestly i'd be so content if i had that setup. i would still use headphones even.
>>64669550
nah im fine with making fun of you, i feel no need to give into the demands of strangers on the internet like you clearly did when you posted your clyp
>>64669595
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>>64669583
i would definitely buy used if you have a good local market for gear but make sure you get to test it out first
tfw no good deals on used gear anywhere near me
>>64669650
yeah there's no way i'd find anything decent here in ottawa ontario. it's way too dead. most people sell shit like m-audio or that one yamaha keyboard for 900 when it's practice shit.
>>64669622
we're laughing at you and your 2010step, not me. your distractions won't work here
>>64669685
this one ?
im going to get one soon for practicing but you can also use it as a midi controller
usb to host only no midi port
>>64669981
nah i mean more like the 300lbs ones with the built in stands. they look like fake uprights.
i currently use a roland A-500 as my midi controller but only for keys to practice scorewriting with various kontakt libraries and synths however due to work it's been in my closet.
>>64669838
>>64669595
>he doesnt have anything work to show
>still posts on /prod/
admit it i beat you at your own game
>>64670036
>he gives in to the demands of strangers instantly so that they'll like him
>he thinks he has the ability to make other people feel bad about themselves after doing so
>>64669838
>we're laughing at you and your 2010step, not me. your distractions won't work here
no we're laughing at you and your lack of music
>>64670036
>>64670089
come on guys its current year
>>64670143
you fell for TALK SHIT POST CLYP. that's your own fault lol
>>64670149
WELL MEMED MY /B/ROTHA
>>64664477
Been working on it all evening, here's where i'm at now. will look at it tomorrow but it'll just be a tidy up i think im pretty much done. I fixed the drums and theres way more going on now with risers and a reese and different arpeggios etc.
https://clyp.it/zdp53i5m?token=62dba5b7750421e528fa0e36f32e0aca
any more comments welcome
>>64670149
>666 + 666 + 666 + 6 + 6 + 6
>expecting people to not argue over retarded shit on 4chan
>>64670197
>666 + 666 + 666 + 6 + 6 + 6
mfw it adds up
Finally finished a song /prod/
https://clyp.it/pmf2wcxm
>>64667459
Wow this is fucked. What DAW do you use?
https://clyp.it/up0xxgsg what do you guys think
>>64667459
have you got a soundcloud?
diggin it.
>>64655602
>just use another one with more presets durrr
>>64670790
did you program all of those notes on the lead? pretty cool stuff
>>64670196
i like the melody, i think the drums are too dubstep-y for the music. good composition tho
>>64667459
sick as fuck. i want more.
https://clyp.it/aowyqo1s
>help
>>64671081
>>64671267
Thanks family.
I really hate to self promote here but I'm not a cunt so here cha go:
https://soundcloud.com/official_contingent
>>64670878
Cubase and Reason mainly with FL on occasion for synth shit
>>64670801
thanks :)
>when the track becomes a piece of garbage and music is your lyfe so it's like your life becomes a piece of garbage
>>64671622
Always remember that your favorite artist used to really really suck at some point in their life.
>>64671267
>https://clyp.it/aowyqo1s
Missing a lead. Drums need some variation. But the mix is bretty good mane. Just try to push forward a little more dynamically in structure and progression. Take some risks. It's not bad at all
>>64654919
Learn how to use Slicex. Slicex is love, slicex is life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEXS46uezAE
>>64652945
https://clyp.it/1ktmhuvd
new to sampling, how 2 make my drums not sound like shit
