At what age did you grow out of progressive rock?
22 here, I was a late bloomer.
I grew out of indie into prog when I was 17
It is the only rock grenre worth listening to
Around my late teens I thought it was the greatest thing ever. Now I recognise it as mostly wank but I still have Close To The Edge as my jam when I'm in the mood
whats the different between progressive rock and post rock?
progressive song structure isn't really something you grow out tho
>>64390755
honestly this
i got into progressive rock the same time i completely dropped out of society
>>64390755
>It is the only rock grenre worth listening to
well, that makes me feel better, at least i never represented such a ridiculous opinion even when i still thought prog was any good.
>>64390741
Give it time, you'll grow out of "growing out" of music
I bet you never even listened to gentle Giant, Cardiacs and Magma
>>64390765
Prog has multiple changes in time signature throughout a song.
>>64390814
well, i believe i already did now.
>>64390814
wrong.
>>64390844
Not necessarily, and so might any other genre of rock.
>>64390765
>Prog rock
A lot of vocals, guitar solos, odd time signatures, 2deep4you lyrics
>Post rock
Less or no vocals, not guitar solo, very atmospheric and (for 2nd and 3rd wave, some 1st wave too) repetition and crescendos.
>>64390741
But clearly you never grew out of being a retarded faggot.
>>64390863
second quoted post should be >>64390821
>>64390769
depends what you mean by progressive song structure.
What mature music do you listen to now OP?
>>64390867
True, but in prog there's a special focus on it. It's what allows a song like "Close to the Edge" by Yes to sound like 4 different songs throughout its length
>>64390741
I bet you never listened to djent
15
>>64390741
never, my philosophy of appreciating music is one of inclusion not exclusion
>>64390870
What about krautrock? It's a subgenre of prog but it fits your post-rock definition much better than the prog one.
For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zqrUW-eQKY
This album came out in 1971 and it sounds like something that GY!BE would release in the late 90s.
when i was 1111
>>64390945
lots of punk, garage rock, rock 'n' roll, blues and new wave lately.
i'm open to lots of stuff and i still like some bands considered prog rock, just not the kind that would pride themselves with that label and betraying a self-indulgent "we art now" attitude.
>>64390980
what does that have to do with anything? i did.
>>64391099
though they may overlap in some aspects, krautrock is definitely not a subgenre of prog.
>>64391099
the electronic aspect is a big part of Krautrock
>>64391124
>krautrock is definitely not a subgenre of prog.
so not only do you have shit taste, you are also a retard
>>64390741
never liked it
even prog metal is better than classic prog
jeez, even famous proggers like Fripp hated prog
>>64391240
>even prog metal is better than classic prog
Uugh
>>64391246
>prog rock is any good
Deueaugh
>>64391193
yeah, according to some clueless kid on /mu/.
>>64391193
no anon you are the retard
>>64391312
>>64391350
You are both fucking idiots. Explain to me in what way krautrock isn't a progressive rock subgenre
>>64391193
>thinks krautrock is a prog subgenre
>calls others a retard
>inb4 wikipedia cherry picking
>the following is the demographic of a progressive rock facebook page
Why is prog such a sausagefest? I'm genuinely curious
genesis are a dope band, fuckin prog haters
>>64391730
MY NEGRO
>>64391679
it's made by and for corny white dudes, and most of them even grow out of it really fast
>>64390741
18, then went full meme with death grips and deafheaven, I'm such a faggot.
>>64391864
yeah sounds like it
>>64391471
alright, in a nutshell:
- they developed more or less parallelly
- progressive rock is generally more about displaying instrumental skill, expanding the traditional rock arrangements and creating elaborate compositions in accordance with harmonic tradition
- krautrock is generally more about intense, primal rhythms, exploring new timbres, fucking around with technology, with improvisation playing a much bigger role than composition
>>64391830
if you don't like selling england by the pound i don't know what to say man
>>64390755
So you're still 17?
>>64391857
oh get over yourself you elitist twat
>>64392000
yeah
i was agreeing with you
>>64390794
>dropped out of society
OP's picture surprisingly accurate
>>64390803
In my experience, people heavy in to prog and stuff like that are not far off from the "Muh real rock and muh real instruments" defener crowd. Funny tho cuz synths were important to early prog... They're usually the kind of people with rebok shoes, kakis, and a walmart dark side of the moon T-shirt
>>64392038
but he's right though
>>64391881
no objections then? glad we got that out of the way.
>>64391679
because women don't care about the music they are only interested in the image associated with it
>>64392194
>Fandango
Hang yourself
>>64392101
You too
>>64391857
>>64392194
t. indie and rap loving cuck
>>64392329
Seems I must've struck a nerve???
>>64392293
but most progressive rock is all about the image.
>>64392379
explain
this statement is worth nothing without any arguments
>>64392456
aha oh wow you sure are getting defensive about technical wankery
>>64392375
Seems like you're a faggot with shit taste
>>64391099
>>64390870
>>64390765
>>64391170
Post-Rock and Krautrock are rather useless terms, most of the artists in these ''genres'' are progressive rock. Both terms are coined by music journalists who attempted to lump bands (many of which had nothing to do with eacother, musically or any other way) together. How are Slint, Tortoise, Cul De Sac, Talk Talk similair? How are Popol Vuh, Tangerine Dream, Amon Duul I, Can, Faust and cluster similair? They aren't, they can all be described with Progressiv Rock, however
>>64392194
just because prog is made by nerdy white dudes, and the fanbase largely consists of white dudes, isn't a valid criticism of the genre and it just comes off as noxious elitism honestly
>>64392591
He posted Cucktano, he's obviously a niggerlover
>>64392566
>Both terms are coined by music journalists who attempted to lump bands together.
same goes for progressive rock and virtually any genre of music. i don't think progressive rock is any more of a useful term really.
>>64392566
>How are Popol Vuh and Tangerine Dream similar
what are you doing
>>64392630
But progressive rock can actually be defined, post-rock not really.
>>64392687
Showing that when you lump all those bands togther you can see how ridiculous the term krautrock is.
>>64393210
nah, i don't agree that the one can be defined more clearly than the other by a relevant margin
As I age a lot of prog rock holds up more than other stuff that I used to think was amazing. Like if you asked me when I was sixteen, I would have said that Close to the Edge, Tales From Topographic Oceans, and Relayer were all Yes's best work. Now, at a late twenty one, I've realized that there's no fucking way Tales From Topographic Oceans and Relayer are anywhere near Close to the Edge. Yes seemed to think it was long songs that made Close to the Edge great, which only shows they were completely ignorant to what they had achieved. They knew they had done something great, but they didn't realize you couldn't recreate that just by filling more sides of vinyl with single songs.
>>64390765
Post-rock is hipster prog rock
>>64393502
i am confused. why does the rest of your post seem to have no relation to the opening sentence even though you continue with "Like..."?
>>64392101
muh right generation
>late bloomer
cock is an adquired taste
>>64390741
There is a lot of bad prog I wouldn't (be bothered to) tell apart from each other, but there is a lot of classics which dazzle me every time I return to them.
The lesson is, the 'inspiration particle' can really hit almost band of almost any genre. Is there a reason I love 'In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida' as much as any '70s' Britprog suite? They just struck gold.
A lot of RYM near-4's don't resonate with me. Don't force yourself to like things just because of their genre association; they probably had the bad luck of being objectively bad.
>>64393566
he's clearly saying that some prog holds up better than others and relayer and topographic oceans are examples of stuff not holding up well.
>>64393775
current?
>>64393904
yeah, that's what i took from the rest of the post, but the first sentence to me reads like its about prog rock on the one hand and "other stuff" on the other hand.
>>64390741
stop being a cocksucker and listen to whatever you want beta male
>>64393939
ahh yeah I see what you mean now. yeah I think they just meant prog in general lol.
>>64394010
ultimately this is the way to go. listen to whatever you like and stop being so fucking insecure.
i don't get it, of course i'm listening to whatever i want.
>>64393502
>Yes seemed to think it was long songs that made Close to the Edge great
Lol. No offense, buddy, but you don't know shit. They stated that they had too much material to release Toto as a regular double LP (like Close to the Edge), and instead of culling they decided to pad out. Definitely a terrible decision, looking at it now.
>>64393906
Yes
>>64394177
not him but honestly i'd be offended at this post, very rude desu
>>64394223
You're right desu senpai, I was being a bit rude, sorry.
>>64393502
Sorry I didn't mean it
