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Anyone know of a good sequencer for logic? Like sequencer baby in reaper
https://clyp.it/0au4cvco
Looking for some feedback on this, especially since it's been years since I've piced up a guitar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIT8nYyHPYI
The last rhythm roulette was really great if anybody didn't see it. He just keeps making beat after beat all from a daft punk remix album. Also the crosley turntable probably triggered a bunch of vinyl snobs lol
How does one use plunderphonics and make a whole other genre out of it?
where do i start in sampling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHgZOMQQTDA
Maybe the right place, but I want to learn piano, I already know the fundamentals like which note is which, how to read music and chord theory but Im shit house and cant actually play with both hands very well, they always seem to get knotted as well.
I also have a midi controller keyboard, so I was wondering if their is any software that teaches you at a faster rate?
How am i doing /prod/
https://clyp.it/dgps3unf
>>64281817
I saw some anon say the other day to learn 3 chords with your left hand say G,C and D play them in a progression over and over and improvise with your right hand, you kind of get used to it then
https://clyp.it/mfyqlzy5
alright lads i'm used to mix more calm or ambient stuff so i struggle with a more pumping mix the song itself is an early wip but it would be cool if some people used to mix loud things could tell me what they think of its current state
thanks lads
>>64281167
your playing is okay i guess but the track is meh t b h
the synth around 0:22 feels forced or exaggerated
>>64281874
>that parasite noise
is that thing recorded with your webcam mic?
>>64281325
Absolutely nice
>>64281874
the fade out of the drum line is shit, overall pretty meh, wouldnt relisten. Its also got quite a few ideas but theyre so raw. Its like a year 9 essay in that it struggles to express its opinions well
>>64282220
>is that thing recorded with your webcam mic?
yes how can you tell
>>64282220
The kicks and snares could be bumped up a lot more. If you're not used to mixing for heavy hitting stuff, I recommend looking into sidechaining your kicks to your main bass and even to the whole instrument bus to make it cut through more. Sample selection is also pretty important, just choose heavier hitting kick and snare samples. I'm no production expert tho, just talking out of experience.
I'm working on this trap/idm/hiphop type track. Clams Casino, FlyLo and similar influences. So far I've got a loop with a main part and a switch up and lots of elements, but I can't decide if I need to add more stuff or just get on with making the variations and shit. Been sitting on this for a week and would love to hear if you feel like it's missing something or not.
https://clyp.it/a4a2dicg
>>64282260
experience i guess
>>64282288
thanks anon, noted
Your loop is great
I don't think you need to add more elements but it would depend of the flow of the track
Hey guys, having trouble recording midi with my external synth in Ableton. Whenever I record a note and play it back, it doesn't play any audio..
https://clyp.it/cqxq3azn
WIP
>>64282885
how do you have it set up in terms of mid cables/interfaces/midi over usb?
>>64282885
MIDI routing is probably needing looked at - when you've recorded into Ableton can you see the MIDI notes in the clip that you record?
If so, then you're at least getting an input and all that needs configured is the track's output.
See image related - you would need to adjust your I/O so that the MIDI output from the track is routed to your MIDI interface on the channel that your synth is set to respond to.
>>64281940
that's dumb, I can improvise pretty well, but that's because I've spent hundreds of hours playing the piano and am formally trained in music theory.
>>64281817
Synthesia. it's like guitar hero for piano, but you actually learn songs.
>>64283055
>>64283118
I've setup midi in audio interface to midi out in synth, 2 instrument TS cables l/r output of synth to input of audio interface 1 and 2. In my MIDI preferences, I have Track ON of my USB MIDI Device and Ableton Push. I've setup an External Instrument, MIDI to USB Midi Device CH1 Audio from 1/2. And for my I/O, I've set up, Ext. Out 1/2. It's recording MIDI notes in, but doesn't playback audio..
>>64283049
I like the noisey bits and the vocal thing is nice. Not sure if this is really my thing but it all sounds great together, i'd be interested in hearing where you go with it.
>>64282288
this is real nice, i'd just jump right into variations and shit like that, doesn't really feel like it's missing anything. good shit
There's more of an intro on this track but I didn't feel like making you guys listen to all of that. Just some deep house kinda shit I've been dicking around with for a few days. Not sure what to do with it
https://clyp.it/bnavv0md
>>64283632
>I've setup midi in audio interface to midi out in synth
this sounds like your problem, you have nothing going to the midi in on your synth so you're just recording the notes you play and hearing the audio.
>I've setup an External Instrument, MIDI to USB Midi Device CH1
is USB midi device your interface? like i mentioned above, you need something going from the midi out of your interface to your synth's midi in so it will send the notes you recorded back out to the synth again when you hit play
>>64283632
What synth are you using and how is it connected to your computer for MIDI - third party interface or does the synth have its own MIDI-over-USB connection?
Lets work going from the External Instrument to the synth - in pic related you can see that MIDI is being transmitted by looking at the (admittedly tiny) indicator next to the "MIDI To" channel selector - when you play your clip do you see something similar? If not, then you're not sending MIDI.
If you are sending MIDI, make sure your synth is set to respond to the same MIDI channel as you've set in the External Instrument panel - plug headphones into the synth, are you hearing anything?
>>64284173
Okay, so I plugged in my midi cable midi in from synth to midi out in my audio interface. So now my synth doesn't play in any notes. My Push now makes the sound from my synth, but I want the synth to record audio from the midi notes on its own, separated from my Push.
>>64284825
I'm using a Roland System-1 synthesizer. I connected it to my audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett 2i4) using a midi cable and 2 TS interment cables. Okay, so when I play my synth, nothing is happening in the MIDI to..
>>64285455
>So now my synth doesn't play in any notes
that's because you have to leave the first cable in place going from your synth's midi out to the interface's midi in. you need 2 midi cables to do this.
>My Push now makes the sound from my synth, but I want the synth to record audio from the midi notes on its own, separated from my Push.
this is just a matter of recording audio clips as well as the midi notes
>>64285455
Are you using two MIDI cables - one from MIDI Out on your synth to MIDI In on the interface, and one from MIDI Out on your interface to MIDI In on your synth? If not, then you'll need to swap over when recording and then playing back.
Also, if you're using an external instrument you would (normally) tend to have your track I/O configured to output the audio to your Master bus (yours is set to Ext Out 1&2), just like you'd do if you were using a VSTi.
>>64285555
>>64285695
Ah okay, so I need another midi cable then? Damn it, i'm such a noob lol. Thanks guys
evening m8s
I'm sampling a bunch of parts of Can't Play Around by Lace. I'm not sure about my progress so far. Does anybody have critique for anything about it? Is it good?
https://clyp.it/cotttake
>>64285819
You can get away with one and swapping as mentioned and you'd need to use MIDI Out on the synth --> MIDI In on the interface when recording and MIDI Out on the interface --> MIDI In on the synth when playing back, but it's a faff when stuff is all set up and tidied and it puts extra stress on cables and connectors over time.
To troubleshoot right now I'd dispense with the External Instrument device in Ableton and just use basic MIDI track routing - create a clip, draw in some notes, plug headphones into your synth and see what you have to do to get some sounds, then work your way forward to getting audio from the synth (played manually or by MIDI once you get it working) into a basic Ableton audio track - once you have both of these nailed you can more confidently set up the External Instrument device and know that you have both needed elements working.
>>64283162
Like Rocksmith for the guitar then
How would I go about getting the falling choir sound from the end of Karma Police (during the "I lost myself") section?
I use fl's parametric eq2 for pretty much everything, including creating filters and automations etc
is there anything wrong with this?
>>64286815
Every DAW choir sounds like that
Does anyone here have a really good subwoofer or large system with good bass?
What is a good external sound card i can buy for my laptop?
>>64288943
Without any additional information, M-Audio M-track. It's not very expensive, it's small and portable, and it's got errthing.
>>64288936
yea
>>64289032
noice. what size room you got that in? go stand in the corner >:]
https://youtu.be/AUoNC6TogMg
>>64286815
Mellotron
check redtron out
>>64289032
>adam
ive heard nothing but good things about that brand
t.jbl fag
>>64289105
it's a pretty big room, about 48sqm
>>64289383
I don't like their tweeters at all, but their subwoofers are pretty solid and at least here in germany a really good bang/buck
>>64286986
Absolutely not. It's actually probably a better idea, to be honest.
>>64286986
I don't like that eq. I always think it colors the sound
>>64292649
It does a little bit. Pretty sure it has something to do with the HQ button. Turn it off and it should be fine.
https://clyp.it/jpchdc5i
made a thing if anyone has any feedback on composition or if it's any good etc
>>64293592
I don't think the piano's doing enough to differentiate itself from the glitchy synth chord instrument. Maybe add some reverb to it, make it do more twinkly things
Drums could use more oomph. Maybe you could boost the bass on them, or turn up the volume on them? The drum pattern could benefit from some spicy hat rhythms, instead of them hitting wherever the kick or snare hit
Bassline sounds good.
>>64293901
thanks! It's still in its early stages so I haven't worked on the drums much but I agree with what you said about the piano
>always high pass kick around 30-50 Hz thinking it will clean up the mix
>try turning the high pass off
>kick sounds the same but peaks more than 2dB lower
Has this been fucking up my mixing/mastering this whole time? I didn't know a high pass could make signals louder unless it had a very steep slope
>>64294321
>I didn't know a high pass could make signals louder unless it had a very steep slope
it shouldn't
I think there's some other things going on in your processing chain that does that
best means of xlr to usb
simplest means of xlr to usb
go
>>64294447
usb audio interface
usb audio interface
>>64294416
pretty sure it can if it's like a brickwall, because it makes that frequency super resonant
>>64294467
>dials for gain
>simplist
>>64294447
there are leads that literally convert xlr input into usb input
>>64294484
yeah that can happen if it's not linear phase and super steep (like 96dB/octave minimum), but with a plugin that's really unlikely
>>64294556
he didn't say what signals are used so you better have something to control the input level with
>>64294572
I'd post audio if I could be bothered! I'm using Ozone 5 EQ which I'd expect to be pretty trustworthy, and it's only on 24dB/oct
>>64294612
it's an sm57 shure microphone, sorry. I forgot to add that
>>64294690
do you only use the eq in there? I still guess there's more stuff going on
>>64294789
yeah EQ at the end of the signal chain
Just playing around with it again, when it's quarter notes it's still quieter with the high pass, but when it's eighth notes it's quieter without (despite the samples not overlapping)
I don't know what's going on now kek
>>64294915
That, to me, says that there is limiting happening somewhere, being triggered more by the energy in the lower frequencies.
The release time of a limiter would affect notes differently if they are wider-spaced - ie: a limiter with a longer release time would remain fully active (and thus reduce gain more) with notes that are closer-spaced than with farther-spaced notes.
https://clyp.it/hrfu0kh5
i made this a couple weeks ago
i'm not sure if i posted it in here or not
criticism pls
>>64295619
i also made this like two nights ago
https://clyp.it/vbyktcdq
>Android Marshmallow let's you use your phone as a MIDI input
Neat
>>64294749
Then yes, a straight cable should be fine
>>64295955
>this memer
I'm not getting the sounds I want with the synths I have. What the fuck am I supposed to do? I really wanna make music man.
>>64296600
learn to use your synths better
>>64296600
effects and resampling>synthesis
>>64296600
>>64296622
>>64296699
holy shit guys all the double dubs in this thread
>Bateman.png
>>64280988
what is it with this album..?
>>64296804
i want to hear it but i cant find anything
>>64296253
I don't understand
I know soundcloud links are forbidden in /prod/ but I'm pretty sure I'll be disqualified if I upload it anywhere else
I mixed it on shitty headphones and I just need to know if the cymbal hit is too loud
https://soundcloud.com/glutenfreebeats/remix
>>64298157
>disqualified
what?
>>64298304
It's a remix for a competition
Kind of a noob here, but I use a lot of Ableton in my band's performances. Right now I only own a simple Launchpad Mini. I'm thinking of getting a combination of LaunchControl, Launchpad Mini and a K-Board from Keith McMillen for my ultra portable and cheap (poorfag waiter here) live setup. Any pointers?
>>64298157
I'm getting the feeling that the hats are too loud.
The claps in the intro seem like they're in a vacuum.
You should add a bit more reverb to them, as well as the hats.
Drop is pretty great.
Vocals might be too loud, or just that everything else is too quiet.
Trying to find a new sound. How horrible is this? https://clyp.it/ihgqzihk
>>64298157
What are you using for your sub? Sounds really clean and nice.
>tfw you find a Yamaha DX7 in perfect working order WITH the memory card
>only AU$50
suck it, autists
now it's time for me to get a midi-usb cable so I can forgo that shitty interface
>>64300115
thanks man
I was trying for that trap kind of vibe with the really loud lead/sub but I might've over did it a bit
>>64300224
just the standard sine sub from serum
is it at a good db in the mix?
>>64300228
noice
and it's autism awareness month anon :[
I keep trying to get into music production but I always lose motivation because I don't have a MIDI keyboard and it takes forever for me to get an idea out.
Has anyone else here felt a difference in motivation when they finally got to work with a MIDI keyboard and/or hardware?
Is this lack of motivation normal or should I just suck it up and keep going?
https://clyp.it/afesvbwa
Complete noobie here, made these 4 bars tonight
I feel like it's hard getting the right volume mix. I just slap a Utility on every track and try to get it right. Is this a stupid way to do it?
>>64302121
I've been producing for 4 years.
Got a MIDI keyboard at the end of the first year.
Never used it since.
Also
>lack of motivation
Then just stop producing. Nobody's forcing you.
I produce even when I have no motivation.
Not to express my creative side, but to explore the technical side of things.
>>64302121
Yeah, getting more gear that speeds up your workflow and makes you productive can definitely be motivating. I'd disregard that other guy saying to quit, he sounds like a douche.
Does anyone have any tips for getting some Ronny J style production?
Sample packs would be greatly appreciated /Prod/
>>64280988
https://clyp.it/0ffitoea
looking for feedback, what do you think about this track?
No bully for this stupid question but:
I noticed with Android Marshmallow that I can use my phone as a MIDI controller/etc. Does anyone know an app I can go about using with FL Studio 12, and how exactly to go about that? A rudimentary Playstore and Google search returned nothing, but that could just be my fault
It's Sunday lads. Can't wait till church finishes so I can get in the studio and make ill beetz
>>64280988
Just made this. Can someone please tell me what they think of it, and also, how to mix this properly?
I can tell that some of the sounds are mashing together. I'm using FL studio. Would separating instruments by frequencies using parametric eq 2 solve my issue? Or perhaps I need to think about mixing my instruments...
https://clyp.it/oy41xv5t
>>64306520
It feels like you've layered on too many effects with the opening riff, dry it out some. Also your drums clip something fierce, there are ways to make them sound big without keeping it at the top of the reds
Harmor question:
How do I make part A not respond to note input (not changing pitch when different notes are played) while having part B normal?
>>64303533
Didn't realize I was posting in a hugbox.
Though yes, it is true that gear speeds up workflow.
It is also true that faster workflow means more ideas pulled out of your brain and put into your DAW.
But if you decide to go balls deep into music production, you should be able to handle not being motivated.
In fact, this guy >>64302121 should be practicing with his DAW right now, not posting in /prod/.
If the problem is not being able to put an idea down fast enough, then the free solution is to practice putting ideas down fast enough.
Sure, I might sound like a douche.
But "lack of motivation" is not an excuse for lack of practice.
>>64306614
>there are ways to make them sound big without keeping it at the top of the reds
Oh anon, how, how can I make this happen?
>>64306622
by purchasing xFer Serum for $99.99
>>64306662
by learning how to use an eq
>>64306671
Get out, shill.
>>64306717
laffo
but really you should pirate that shit and try it out. you'll probably really like the routing you can do, and its simpler to navigate than harmor
>>64306466
I didn't go this week but I'm glad there are more church-going /prod/bros
>>64306622
obvious answer is duplicate the instrument and then have two tracks, 1 for A and 1 for B, so that the midi input is separate
but thats obvious, so i will assume they are codependent (fm synthesis from a to b etc.) in that case try the same method but mute the output of one part
purchase Xfer ltd Serum (tm) today
This site is a wonderful resource
http://edmprod.com/50-tips-mixdowns/
I realized that I could learn prod the best by analyzing other projects. Just yesterday I realized there is a "song contest" folder in FL studio, with like 7-8 songs. To me they sound actually professional and not trashy like demo songs.
It kinda sucks though when you realize that you spent so much time trying to find a good resource about making good drums and you see they all just import finished sounds from somewhere. I wanted to understand EQing because I thought it is very important - I open the mixer and guess what, half of the channels don't even have any EQ and the other half has minor boosts/cuts. But it sounds good. Also I wanted to learn how to make a good mix and whaf FXs to use - just some compressions and stereos used. I mean, the thing is that now I feel like I just overcomplicated things while actually it's just a lot of layerings, automatizations and a tiny bit of beautifying the shit in mixer.
I still don't understand how they did the synths, basses and all that though. I open the synth and it shows me e.g. harmor, but I don't seem to understand if they used some preset and tweaked it or what, because the name of their synth is not in the library. Anybody using FL could explain this to me, just open one of the top 3 contest songs.
>>64308247
I realized making a good-sounding track doesn't take that much work too. I have all the samples I need in the form of VST instruments. Then I just write some literally random shit and tweak it into something in 2 hours or something, and then I start mixing, but since most of my VSTs already sound good, all I have to do is to kiss them with some personal mark and just do the common things like automation, paralell compression, reverb and stereo bus processing. Everything you can learn by watching Recording Revolution, Mixbus TV, Pro Audiofiles or reading Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio or anything.
>I open the mixer and guess what, half of the channels don't even have any EQ and the other half has minor boosts/cuts. But it sounds good
No point in EQing stuff that doesn't need EQ. If you low/high-pass everything that could cause phase issues in the mix.
>>64302121
I've got a MIDI keyboard, but I'm years of practice from when I could just play shit straight from my head.
The piano roll's a breeze, though. You'll get there. Unless maybe your DAW sucks at this. Heard some do.
Fun fact, the best use I ever got out of the keyboard was when I tried to improvise and couldn't be assed to use the black keys.
Found all these cool other modes. Dorian mode is my shit now.
What's your workflow for sampling?
How organization and post on field recs?
What I do is throw everything into foobar with the waveform seekbar on, then just scroll around until I hear something cool, throw it into Audacity or Edison, mark the section, find zero crossings, maybe fade in/out or EQ, name, export, onwards.
Feels slow tho. For the actual editing, I'm learning the hotkeys so that should help, but just finding the cool parts of the cool tracks in Foobar feels like it takes more clicking and mouse moves than it needs to. And the waveform has no zoom and isn't preloaded.
I'd love something with basic audio editing tools and a built-in playlist/directory browser. Is there anything?
Someone please explain to me how i can recreate the noises in this? It sounds fucking dope and i wanna do something similar for a breakcore track
http://vocaroo.com/i/s19IwUI7y7TL
>>64306520
Needs a stronger bassline and yes more EQing
>>64306520
preach
Also where can I improve on this please
https://clyp.it/ewogvylw
>>64309296
I don't sample a lot but when I do I just click through the song in my file browser and when I like it I load it directly into ableton
>>64309545
dunno, try to break it down into the different parts
like the different synth sounds with heavy pitch envelopes, background noise (maybe percussion with heavy delay + white noise and bitcrush?) , special fx samples etc.
also
>tfw when after a few weeks of just forcing yourself to finish stuff you finally make something that instantly clicks with you
>>64309296
may i see more of your playlist? i'm digging the funkyness
>>64308639
What can/do you learn in college for audio engineering that you can't learn alone? How hard even is that study?
Hey guys,I made this track in the past week and was wandering if the kick and bass are overlaping.
https://clyp.it/s12xlnyf
>>64310185
http://pastebin.com/MVNrhSPC
I haven't actually gone through all this yet so I dunno how good it is for samples.
It's not entirely funky and probably the funkiest stuff in here is mostly from the "Rare grooves" collages on What.cd so check those out.
>>64310208
Networking. Professors, students, seminars. And artistically stimulating environments. Workshops, concerts, the music performance majors who is in the faculty next door who you can ask to record and of course all the equipment you can borrow and expertise that is immediately accessible to you. Actually learning audio can be done from home, lol.
>>64310657
Thanks! I'm currently digging Noel McGhie & Space Spies, listening to it now
>>64309296
I use AudioFinder you can link it to your browser so it auditions audio files right from that, double click to go into edit mode. It can also send audio straight to a track in Logic or Pro tools. Dead handy
I think Snapper does the same or similar
I'm mid-side analyzing my favorite songs and don't you just LOVE it when you completely uncover melodies that only sit in the background like this string melody:
https://clyp.it/yluwm5en
How fucked am I if I want to produce music in Linux? I have a Win8 dual boot, but I prefer using Linux in every way.
>>64304707
IL Remote has been available for some time now, working on earlier versions of Android over wi-fi
http://www.image-line.com/documents/news.php?entry_id=1388613399&title=il-remote-for-fl-studio
You could also look at FL Studio templates for Liine Lemur and for TouchOSC, again they've existed for a while now and are not limited to Marshmallow.
>>64311685
quite fucked, really. Few DAWs are available on Linux and pretty much none of the plugins you'd care to use. You'd be making it way too difficult for yourself
>>64300228
Bruh, I picked up a full working order hammond organ, foot pedals and everything with the leslie cabinet for free a few years ago.
Church literally wanted to pay me for the trouble of taking it away
>>64310804
Heard of these two. Mac only.
>>64306650
>In fact, this guy >>64302121 should be practicing with his DAW right now, not posting in /prod/.
how do you know what he's doing with his time? everybody has downtime
>Sure, I might sound like a douche
oh there's no "might" about it lol
>>64310804
>>64309296
just use your daw like every sane person would
Guys, I'd appreciate if anyone could put me in the right direction for finding tutorials for getting synths sounds like the start of this song.
For example, I know that the choir is a choir synth, but I don't know what the throbbing synth going along with it is called, so I can't really start with finding a tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYtHDE7XxVw (Fight song - The Appleseed Cast)
thanks lads
>>64311685
Probably Bitwig with a Wine wrapper for hosting Windows VSTs would work for you with some faffing about, but if you have Windows anyway you'd be better off there.
Once you're in the DAW's environment you'll be using its workflow so Linux/Windows workflows become less of an issue except in the one area that they do still influence - the options that you have for installation.
If you were Linux-only for open-source Linux-y reasons then that (and not music production) becomes your driving factor and you should stick with it if you feel strongly about it, but if you use both Linux and Windows you're only limiting yourself by choosing to use the OS with the least DAW support.
>>64312974
There are another two sounds going on in there - a low-passed string pad and some triplet stabs (could be anything) that have been passed through a Vocoder - going by the release date and the (pretty obvious) sound it's an Orange Vocoder preset. It got used a lot at the time.
>>64313197
Yeah, the triplet stabs are what I've been trying to get, thanks for that!
>>64310685
This is just too ridiculous. How come no one here has ever posted anything professional sounding? You're deluded, friend. Mixing is fucking hard and takes a long time to get proficient.
>>64313288
the stabs (not triplets by the way) sound like they could be a guitar or maybe some other string instruments, but there was probably a fair bit of manipulating the audio, it doesn't sound like it could be reproduced live
>>64313329
Yeah I was thinking they could be guitars, but I've used hi-hats with that preset too and got a similar effect due to the vocoder's ringing - my bad on the word "triplets", I just used it for identification purposes but it could be misleading.
Anyone got any good pointers of where to start if I want a kind of Xasthur-y lofi Black Metal sound. Like, I don't know if I should be looking into certain software, or like just buying more old-school recording equipment to get that necro sound
>>64313329
>>64313399
Oh, meant to add - there are a few hardware VST hosts (Muse Receptor and the cheaper but less stable V-Machine from SM Audio - that one is kinda deprecated now) that would work with Orange Vocoder in a live setting - they're pretty much just dedicated computers though so you'd easily get away with a 2005+ spec laptop with a decent little guitar interface running SaviHost instead.
Torn between sm57 dynamic and the at2035 condenser
I want to do vocals, record a few instruments, and sample small things around my house.
I don't have good acoustics and i'm a bit worried about catching too much much background noise if i get the condenser.
help
using a drum rack to sample in ableton, is there any way to get the previous pad I hit to stop playing as soon as I trigger another one?
there's always some overlap and I can't find a fix to it anywhere
>>64314208
Set the choke group in the device chain, use the same choke group number for the sounds that you want to have playing exclusively.
>>64313311
I've heard professional-sounding stuff here, although that was months ago before the big dip in activity. From what I see, the audio you learn in school is the basics, stuff that can be learned by books, online courses and Youtube videos. Yes, mixing is fucking hard and takes a long time, but school isn't necessarily where most of that practice would come from.
>>64314418
It's also good for a collective-wisdom thing, learning from other people's Eureka moments which entails collaboration with the other students if they're not ultra-competitive pricks who protect their knowledge, although you will find those types there too unfortunately.
Most people go there for networking, to find what is happening moment-to-moment in their geographic area that isn't as easily gleaned from the web, and for that it's useful.
>>64313931
Got a 2020 a little while ago, no complaints about the noise level
Thought I'd post this graphic I made for a friend, just in case it helps someone else out.
It is a method I use for trying to imprint dry horn / brass kontakt instruments with a faux 'vintage' sound. Results will vary depending on what reverbs you use.
Materials used:
-Trumpets, Trombones & Mr. Sax instruments from Sample Modeling (Kontakt format)
-Virtual Sound Stage 2
-Altiverb (Or your convolution reverb of choice, something that contains impulses of smaller-ish rooms)
The general goal is to try to emulate how one may record a real horn section, but using virtual instruments. Virtual Sound Stage is used to pose the horns around spatially, in a configuration you might use to record a real horn section. Just a fancier method than using simple panning. Those spatially posed dry instruments are sent to the convolution reverbs to emulate the sound of the space. The most important being the Early Reflections, since we are talking about a small room here, not a giant orchestral hall.
The Dry and Reverb signals are combined in a later bus, where you can apply faux tape effects to simulate the recording process.
EQ and other corrective measures are required because convolution reverbs are often quite dark.
Example clyp: https://clyp.it/5qos5oaq
If you want them to be even grungier, go heavy with the tape saturation on the final summing bus. I was sorta going for a (relatively modern) tower or power sound. If you instead want to emulate capturing of a 'mono' signal, you would take only the 'mid' / mono signals out of the Reverb + Dry summing bus.
are multiband compressors only for mastering? should i put them on orchestral tracks for mixing?
>>64315909
Is that a part from Spinnin by Bernard Wright? If so, have you completed it?
>>64316227
to extend from this should i use any of these? am i fucking up? do i need a de-esser?
>>64316227
Multibands are useful for anything that only needs small cuts in a specific band at specific points in time - you could do the same with EQ and automation but it would be more work so as long as you're not crushing the fuck out of your instruments there's no harm in a multiband.
>>64316859
i see. are there any good guides for using multiband compression on orchestral stuff, or at least in a general sense that isn't EDM?
>>64316940
I've never looked but I'd expect there to be less info - as you say most of the stuff online is in video-game-walkthrough format for EDM-babbys.
You might find that Dave Pensado's Into The Lair series will have covered the use of a multiband, and since he's pretty good with the explanation side you'll still have learned something even though he covers mostly the pop music spectrum.
Learn what you can about the theory of a multiband's operation and use your ears - identify peaks in frequencies that you want to tame and use the multiband to reduce them - that's all there is to it
>>64316227
I have used them to control the insane buildup of low freqs (produced by reverb) on the orchestral perc bus, from time to time.
>>64317182
k ill look at his stuff. should i use an EQ with a shelf on both sides to isolate resonant frequencies?
How does this make u feel /prod/, I did it in like 3 hours.
https://clyp.it/2hjyvd0s
>>64317326
If the instrument has a resonant peak in the middle of its frequency range, shelving EQ won't be able to act upon it without also acting upon everything else on the sloping side of it.
Surgical (band cut) EQ would work to reduce resonant peaks but you need to be careful with the slope there also - anything too steep will also cause issues at the cutoff point - for gentle cutting a multiband is real useful since it won't be acting on the signal all the time.
anyone have more spitfire stuff?
>>64317570
no no i meant using that shelf to find it, my bad. i would cut it out with a notch afterwards. i just wanted to know if using a low and high shelf together made sense for that.
what interface does /prod/ use? i have a 2i2, but i want to get rid of it. i like the hardware, but the drivers are ass, way too much latency.
i was looking at some other options, and i'm leaning towards the steinberg ur22, or possibly a roland quad capture. thoughts?
>>64316940
what are you trying to do? i mostly use multiband for de-essing.
i don't really make orchestral stuff, but what's your goal? are you trying to make a certain instrument stand out more? is there a problematic frequency? etc etc. be more specific.
>>64318425
You could also use the notch EQ in boost mode for that - see the right-hand Ozone screenshot - sweeping it across the range would see it ringing most at the resonant peak. A bi-directional shelving filter (the left-hand Ozone image) would work too so I see what you mean, for me I try to be as surgical as possible when finding the offending frequencies though.
>>64318786
How many Inputs and Outputs do you need?
>>64318935
2 inputs. i'm a solo artist, i'd use it for guitar and a mic. i'd also like to use it for live performance.
What are some good studio monitors i can buy for under 295€?
I heard i should keep away from the ones that have 5" or smaller cones.
I don't produce dub or anything really bass heavy, but it would be nice to have some affordable reference speakers that play low notes clearly, even if not so loud
>>64319547
oh and i mean 295€ for a pair
>>64319595
lsr305
seriously, they're pretty hyped but they're really good. it's very hard to find anything that can compete in the <500€ a pair range
>>64319993
thanks, i've almost decided on getting them, but was b8ed by some local deal (m-audio bx5 d2 + m-track mk.ii for 260€)
Friendly reminder that a MIDI controller and the ability to play it well are indispensable to the modern DAW-based musician
>>64320264
Time for people who draw notes to get triggered (no pun intended)
what order do you use for orchestras when writing? bass, cello, viola, and violins? legatos first?
I think I'll finally get a will to do more composition and production when I hook up my MIDI piano. I fucking hate keyboard and drawing notes in piano role (but I have to admit that it can be hugely inspirational at times, I actually wrote the most complicated things that way). I hope it'll work...
Does anybody have experience hooking up electric pianino to PC? I had it in garage for years and one day realised that it actually has a MIDI port. I work in FL studio. Do you think it'll work without problems? It's a Kawai CN390. I'll actually appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable would check it out and tell if it should work.
>>64285915
Best one here yet, you've got a solid idea. Your drums could be better, but fuck that. This is cool.
>>64320893
It will work fine. That's one of the glorious things about MIDI. Even the shitty radio shack keyboard in your attic can play nice with your DAW. Of course, trying to use the actual audio from the thing might be a lost cause, if it sounds like dogshit.
>>64320893
>>64321028
Actually I should have said, it will work fine, given you have some means of receiving the midi signals from the keyboard. Either by using a cheapo USB to MIDI thing, or if your interface has a midi IN / OUT plug on it.
>>64320683
writing music and orchestrating it are two totally different things, try to treat them that way
write the music first, then orchestrate it in a way that makes it shine and brings out all the colors you want to hear
of course you'll be changing notes and adding lines while orchestrating and of course you'll already be hearing different colors and mixtures already when writing f.e. on a piano, but my advice is to keep it as separate as possible to really make the best out of both parts instead of being stuck in a loop going back and forth. this is essential for commissioned work
>>64321076
A lot of famous composers today and in the past write directly to the orchestral score though. If you hear an oboe, it's dangerous to put it on a piano reduction since it changes the character and your perception of the line.
Personally, I write quickly, horizontaly in a score, only sketch those things I'm sure of, like melodies, trading and some light accompaniment and fill the rest later. I write in a score-writer though and import the midi to the DAW later.
>>64321947
>>64321076
hows this?
https://clyp.it/rg2acqnl
>>64322219
very comb-filtery and plastic sounding strings because they're nearly mono centered, give them some sort of realistic seating and listen closely for phasing problems as you pan
can't say much about the composition because there's none yet
>>64322393
how do you give it a seating? using a stereo image thing?
>>64322485
just pan them according to how your orchestra is seated and use reverb and especially ERs to create layers of depth
>>64322588
what's a good reverb vst that has split reflections? i have reverbate with a bricasti IR pack but i can't tell.
>>64322607
lexicon pcm native, eventide ultra, exponential audio r2&pheonix
Is there a DAW that would work best for making music with both real and digital instruments? I have messed around with ableton a bit and I enjoy doing digital instruments with it but it's options for recording seem pretty limited.
>>64323352
>it's options for recording seem pretty limited.
in what sense?
>>64323500
Maybe I just didn't look very closely, but i did not see much as far as tools for manipulating the recording.
is there a brass library better than cinebrass?
>>64323624
are you talking about editing audio clips or effects and stuff?
>>64323352
i like cubase for recording real instruments
ableton will do good though i use them both
are there any music buffs here? at 0:04 through 7 it sounds like a generic melody used for indians in old western shows. i want to know the origin of that melody
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eWcXFWAt6Ww
>>64281062
ultrabeat has a step sequencer kinda like that, you can also drag the seqs out to midi
>>64316227
fuck dude, ableton's mband is so sweet. you can use it for so much shit. you can use it just on busses you want to sound """"thumpier"'"""". i mostly use it for mastering and drums.
>>64325951
do you use a preset? or your ear?
>>64325951
i think ableton stock plugins are pretty good overall
>>64326504
>mixing
>presets
it doesn't work like that
>>64326586
>put mixing preset
>nearly blow your monitors
>>64320387
>mfw that pun
