Don't talk about this album if you've never done LSD.
Thanks.
>>64106232
>Thanks
FR WHAT
I'm never doing LSD and I talk about this album all the time.
>>64106232
I listened to this without lsd oooh good album
i listened to it on lsd "what the hell is this crap dude"
it was the same album I just couldnt comprehend it under the context of lsd.
>>64106248
Everything you ever say about the album will is misguided and worthless unless you actually experience it the way it was meant to be experienced.
So you're wasting your time
>>64106248
Well you should stop or else you're going to sound like a total poser faggot. Oh wait too late, you normies who listen to this and dont do LSD ARE total poser faggots.
TMR is enjoyable either with or without LSD
>>64106232
I never do drugs omg
>>64106309
you still don't understand it
>>64106331
stop using the word "drug". lsd is not a drug
>>64106302
>>64106305
I love you guys :3
>>64106302
>>64106305
I don't think Captain Beefheart ever took drugs, especially LSD
>>64106348
Its literally a drug (as in by a drug definition)))
>>64106302
t. DUDE WEED LMAO
>>64106348
>lsd is not a drug
>>64106348
Let me guess, you are 16 years old.
I've never done drugs because I'm not a worthless degenerate but I love this album desu
>>64106348
What's there to "Understand"? It's a good album that I enjoy, and I feel sorry that people feel the need to be on LSD or any other psycho active substance to listen to and enjoy this great record.
>>64106362
he did. lots of it, especially while recording this album
>>64106367
heres the definition of drug: a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.
by that definition everything is a drug
>>64106381
no one is talking about weed
>>64106382
breathing is a drug, whats your point?
>>64106331
>>64106309
>>64106367
>>64106362
LSD is not a drug. It is a mind opening substance.
Get the fuck off of this board.
i am listening to it now under the influence of lsmemes
I listened to this once, on acid. Incredible experience, but pretty scary.
I felt my body split in two, its physical and spiritual form, separated, and I came back to senses in another body.
I was seeing through the eyes of a young man, an underachieving fellow with a passion for arts, a misunderstood mind, coping with social and expressional problems, and it was beautiful because I was looking through your eyes...
>>64106348
keep the psychedelic snobs on /pol/ and /x/
>>64106416
>>64106417
You sound pretentious as fuck.
>>64106416
Are you literally retarded or just memeing.
>>64106416
>>64106417
mind altering substance=drug
thats the definition dorons cave
>>64106450
oxygen is a mind altering substance
>>64106416
troll so hard
>>64106450
I said mind opening. I did not say mind ALTERING. LSD does not alter your mind, it OPENS it.
OPEN =/= ALTER
Is that simple enough for you?
>>64106465
that's retarded
>LSD is not a drug. It is a mind opening substance.
>>64106491
facts arent retarded mate
>>64106490
ye im saying your definition is wrong
mind altering substance=drug substance my man
>>64106417
>>64106348
>sd is not a drug
well i dont care faggots, i like my mind free of bad things!!!!!
go inject your shitty """"sustance"""" and experience your poorness in other boards, degenerate losers!
>>64106503
that's what I was implying
>>64106510
Unless you've taken LSD, I'm going to completely disregard whatever you're saying.
>>64106496
this desu senpai
>>64106503
Part of the definition of drug is """"man made """"""" can made you get me or are you too doofed up on lsd?
>>64106553
I've taken LSD
u r a poopoo head lol
;-)
>>64106416
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but Captain Beefheart never did drugs. Please tell me your source, because it's wrong. (And maybe trying pot just once to see what it's like doesn't really count, either)
>>64106553
>(you)
>>64106611
He drank alot of pepsi cola, caffeine is a drug
>>64106629
yeah and so is LSD but he never took it
>>64106642
true
everyone in this thread is a fucking faggot except me anD I CAN PROVE IT
>>64106617
That's an idiot. Weed does not open your mind it clouds it. Try again.
>>64106642
Yes he did. Try again.
>>64106687
In what way does lsd open your mind?
>>64106687
You have yet to provide a shred of evidence to support your claim, and there's literally no way to prove whether or not Captain Beefheart never did something, you're going to have to provide proof of your claim. I know having taken LSD is the only way you'll consider someone's opinion, but in the real world we like people to prove things.
>>64106687
*tries again*
>>64106629
There's a huge difference between caffeine and LSD. He never took LSD. That's what I asked you to prove. But technically you're right. If he was ingesting caffeine, he was taking drugs. With that sort of logic, Frank Zappa must've been a huge drug fiend what with his love of nicotine and beer.
>>64106416
>lsd is not a drug
>but breathing is indeed a drug
"The formlessness and intensity of Beefheart's music have often led people to conclude that he is merely another product of the drug culture. Sadly, much of the promotion material on him in past years has implied that he is the king of the drug heads and hip freaks. Nothing could be further from the truth. Don Van Vliet does not use drugs and does not allow members of the Magic Band to do so either. Like his friend Frank Zappa, Beefheart admonishes everyone to stay away from LSD, speed and marijuana. The reason for this is not only that he believes that drugs have harmful and irreversible effects, but also that each person has the power to get "there" all by himself."
>>64106717
It helps you see the world more clearly for what it is.
>>64106725
Take LSD and you'll know.
>>64106776
No source. Try again.
>>64106776
druggies BTFO
based Beefheart
>>64106814
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-odyssey-of-captain-beefheart-rolling-stones-1970-cover-story-20101217
here's my source weenie
>>64106814
WOAH DUDE SICK PICTURE SO TRIPPY DUDE LMAO
Anyone who thinks beefheart did any drugs while recording this album is a tard. Safe as milk was the product of his one and only LSD trip, and be hated it. He also hated people listening to his music while high, or how he called it, "green". You should watch some of the beefheart docs and interviews before making ignorant statements.
GUYS DI JUST DID LSD AND AM LISTNEING TOT THE ALBUMN HOLY SHIT MI DYUINGA FJCK
>>64106814
>It helps you see the world more clearly for what it is.
Sure mate, that's why stoners are really wise people, kek.
>>64106827
>rolling stone
Are you in first grade? You chose a tabloid as your source. Try again.
>>64106856
If you're really dead you should try and sue this guy>>64106814
>>64106864
8.5/10 bait
>>64106857
see>>64106687
try again
>>64106776
Where is this quote from? It's quite accurate, but I was curious about the fact that Frank Zappa is referred to as a "Friend" since they had a huge falling out and never spoke to each other again after Bong Fury. This source must be pre 1975. Again it is accurate concerning Captain Beefheart's and Frank Zappa's point of view concerning drugs.
>>64106893
>implying i was refering to weed
Try again.
>>64106232
I've done acid 4 times. TMR is a shit album.
>>64106928
this
safe as milk is so much better
>>64106928
terrible opinion
you should change it
who will stop me
>>64107012
lol
Acid is for weak minded faggots who don't like being I their own body.
>>64106982
>>64107052
What's sad is, is that it's not bait. Rolling stone is a tabloid. I swear to science, you normie fags will count anything as a fucking source.
>>64106362
nah these guys were different than zappas group. they were definately dosed. equally as talented, but pretty obviously on drugs, especially for this album
>>64106232
what if i do
>>64107092
that article is legit though
>>64107046
>who don't like being in their own body
Please never again speak about things which you know nothing about.
>>64106302
beefheart didn't do any drugs.
>>64106232
Well I've never done drugs and I thought it was a good album. Not like your everyday listen but still good.
>inb4 fucking faggot forcing yourself to like a shit album
>>64106490
Are you special
>>64106850
Safe as Milk sounds like a straight ahead blues album. If he was doing drugs, I would imagine that he would've just be smoking pot and drinking fortified wine.
Strictly Personal, on the other hand, sounds like something that would've been done on acid, or inspired by an acid trip. (I'm not saying that he did any of these things, I'm just saying that's what I would think in my own imagination)
>>64106416
"First we were with A&M and did Diddy Wah Diddy before Safe as Milk. The name meant the strontium-90 content of the woman’s breast and not acid, as it was taken to mean, as everything was taken to mean at that time. That’s one of the reasons I split for a while. I didn’t want people to think my imagination was due to… something external. I’m a very pure type of -ist. I eat health food and I don’t use anything."
http://www.beefheart.com/conversation-with-captain-beefheart-by-eliot-wald/
>>64107192
Strictly Personal sounds like that because some faggot wanted it to sound like an acid rock album and he fucked it all up without Don's consent.
You can barely hear the fucking songs.
>>64106420
OHHHHHH SHIT
>>64106348
>>64106416
>The only way to truly unlock the secrets of TMR is through lsd
>It's not a drug it's key to unlock the full capabilities of our mind
>You just pretend to like it to be as cool as me
Hmmm what's that age restriction again?
>>64106725
"First we were with A&M and did Diddy Wah Diddy before Safe as Milk. The name meant the strontium-90 content of the woman’s breast and not acid, as it was taken to mean, as everything was taken to mean at that time. That’s one of the reasons I split for a while. I didn’t want people to think my imagination was due to… something external. I’m a very pure type of -ist. I eat health food and I don’t use anything."
http://www.beefheart.com/conversation-with-captain-beefheart-by-eliot-wald/
im replying this to this post too, because i really want to see you try to respond to this.
ITT: Try again.
>>64107384
>implying he didn't write that while on acid
Try again.
>>64106827
>>64106966(Nice dubs)
Thanks for the source.
>>64107012
Actually, I'd rather get drunk and smoke weed while listening to Safe as Milk. I think Strictly Personal is more of an LSD album. But, again, I tell you that one doesn't have to be high on anything to enjoy Captain Beefheart's music. (But it does make it a bit more fun for those who choose to imbibe)
>>64017102
Where did you get your information from? If you know anything about the making of TMR, or about the history of The Magic Band in general, then you would know that Captain Beefheart not only wouldn't have tolerated anybody doing drugs while recording an album, he probably would've beaten the shit out of them if he found out. Please reveal your source.
>>64106814
Holy shit you're one of these rare ones. Those who just don't give up! One of those who will without any support, any evidence and any logic, STILL continue! You are one of the rare specimen! Nobody here understands your logic, your reasoning and opinon. Amazing, to say the least.
>lol ok could minded fag
>check out this sick psychedelic bird thing i found
>lol im 17
>>64017286
I've read various articles through out the years where Captain Beefheart stated that he didn't like the sound or the production quality of Strictly Personal. Although, that being said, I still enjoy that particular release. It's one of my favorites by him, but, admittedly, I'd like to hear the album the way he originally intended it to be heard by the public. (I guess we never will, though)
>>64107450
beefheart and his girlfriend spiked their band members tea with acid.. so...
Can we just get it straight that people who claim LSD makes you see the world clearly. The effect is literally that your brain starts to generate things out of this world. And that fucking claim by mr 16 that weed clouds your mind while LSD opens it is like saying pouring out all your colors on a painting makes it better and not drawing at all makes it shittier,
>>64107648
And where did you get your information from?Please name your source. This sounds totally made up. Either you're trolling, or you've been grossly misinformed.
>>64107609
The Mirror Man Sessions has "clear" versions of 5 Strictly Personal tracks (Safe as Milk, Trust Us, Beatle Bones 'n' Smokin' Stones, Gimme Dat Harp Boy, Kandy Korn)
And another (and better, imo) version of On Tomorrow can be found on the 1999 CD reissue of Safe As Milk as a bonus track.
How Can Drugs Be Real If We Arent Even Real
>>64106232
I only took NBOMe and it sucked.
I can't get my hands on real LSD so whatever.
>>64106232
Don't talk about music if you don't know music theory.
Thanks.
>>64107866 (Nice dubs)
Thanks for the information. I shall check these out soon enough.
>>64106348
>does lsd once
>>64108052
"I'm not like other drugs:3" - lsd
>>64108052
ive never done lsd. i just made this thread because the reactions are always funny
>>64108092
kek
great discussion, guys! keep it up
>>64107609
>>64107286
The blog Albums That Never Were did a good reconstruction of it. It was called It Comes to You in a Brown Paper Wrapper and was supposed to be a double album.
>>64106611
>Captain Beefheart never did drugs. Please tell me your source, because it's wrong.
>To support the album's release the group had been scheduled to play at the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival. During this period Vliet suffered severe anxiety attacks that made him convinced that he was having a heart attack, possibly exacerbated by his heavy LSD use and the fact that his father had died of heart failure a few years earlier. At a vital 'warm-up' performance at the Mt. Tamalpais Festival (June 10/11) shortly before the scheduled Monterey Festival (June 16/18), the band began to play "Electricity" and Van Vliet froze, straightened his tie, then walked off the 10 ft (3.0 m) stage and landed on manager Bob Krasnow. He later claimed he had seen a girl in the audience turn into a fish, with bubbles coming from her mouth.[47]
>eefheart was most definitely not in a sane frame of mind during the writing of the album; he banned LSD from the band's house after he went down into the cellar on an acid trip, found mushrooms growing in a corner, and suffered a panic attack when he thought he'd discovered an alien life form invading the house.
>>64106857
Too be fair a lot of scientific discoveries and artistic breakthroughs were done on acid
>>64106617
*dabs*
drugs are for losers
>>64110900
a lot of losers take drugs but drugs dont make losers
i look at back at my substance history and most of it is awful wish i could take it back stuff but there are moments that are so beyond me and so rewarding i dont discount it
>altering the brain processes during music listening
>diluting the experience
>confusing the mind in order to make the music appear grander
>using a substance to lie to yourself about music
You could listen to a toddler plink on a Playskool piano while on LSD and think you came out the other side with a special understanding of it.
>>64111250
>You could listen to a toddler plink on a Playskool piano while on LSD and think you came out the other side with a special understanding of it.
>mfw he doesn't see the beauty of that
>>64110900
Your Water is Drugged.
>>64111406
He's just a salty shit poster. Like a salty sea dog's turd deprived of a mind opener.
That's not even an LSD-type album.
>>64111250
on a daily basis, how much beauty do you experience?
Beefheart doesn't do drugs and would kick members out of the band if they did (same with Zappa)
He would kick your ass for making this thread.
>>64111697
Seven.
>>64111726
>not 3
Boring :-)
