MUH """"""""""""""'UNDERGROUND""""""""""""""""" BAND
MUH """"""""""""""""""OBSCURE""""""""""""""" MUSIC
fuck outta here mainstream plebs
>>63897980
damn
They got into the Top 40 two years ago
this isn't news
calm down
shjit I gotta cancel my preorder
>>63897994
>Top 40
>tfw the poptimism meme still hasn't died
Literally fuck off neo-/mu/
>>63897980
> Implying underground is good
> Implying mainstream is bad
Can be true but generalizing is the most retarded thing.
Oh no, they're popular. Now how will I enjoy it?
Fuck off
>>63898022
>>63898032
Way to miss the point fucktards
Old Swans (80s and 90s) was a genuine underground band producing innovative music that was under-appreciated by the public/the media.
Nu Swans is an incredibly mainstream group producing generic post-rock, whose fanbase is made up solely of /mu/core and P4K teenagers/20-somethings, as evidenced by the fact that everyone in the comments sections of their videos has Death Grips/meme avatars.
>>63898043
The point is that this is pure shitposting and should be reported immediately.
>>63898043
lol what's your point
>>63898060
My point is that /mu/ bitches about mainstream popular music all the time while at the same time sucking off """underground""" bands that are also popular as fuck.
>>63897980
>90 minute songs
>Repetitive as fuck
>Dreary and boring most of the time
Swans is fucking garbage.
>>63897980
>this image exists
>this thread exists
>this thought exists
>>63898077
sorry, all I read is
> hurr durr I'm retarded
>>63897980
has anyone ever said that
>>63898101
>>63898077
/mu/ bitches about bad music in general and not exclusively mainstream-records, way to miss the point fucktard. didn't you see how much /mu/ loved the new charli xcx and carly rae jepsen for example, both which are considered mainstream. stupid bait
>>63898077
if you can't see the difference between music that vies to become chart topping for the sake of maintaining popularity and mainstream presence, and music that edges its way into the top 40 list due to steadily gained popularity then i don't know what in the heck im gonna do with you
>>63898077
>/mu/ bitches about mainstream popular music all the time
How fucking new are you? Ever seen the swarm of poptimists on this board?
196k isn't even that much considering it's on facebook, they're still "relatively" underground
>>63898118
Retard hears tardspeak, how appropriate.
Rid the gene pool of your genes.
>>63898086
Based retard.
>>63898077
huh?
/mu/ like vampire weekend which has 2m likes on fb?
>this thread
>>63898126
>>63898132
>>63898130
Yes, idiots, one or two exceptions don't make the general idea moot. One of the reasons you idiots jerk off Swans, Meme Grips, and all the other memebands is because you think they're sooooo obscure when in reality they are pop af
>>63898077
>>63898126
The point is that what /mu/ considers "bad" or "good" is really fucking arbitrary.
/mu/ will pan dadrock as "bad" and "boring" (The latter of which is often true) but celebrate the most safe-sounding western pop artists.
A lot of /mu/'s taste is based off of opposition to musical trends elsewhere on the internet on Reddit, Youtube, etc. /mu/ sees some 15 year old kid in a Youtube comment lamenting that "pop music is shit, this old rock band is way better" and decides that it is going to hate said old rock band and love said new pop music, just to make a point of opposition.
Bands like Swans and Death Grips are for some reason still considered an "alternative" to mainstream internet music tastes by /mu/, despite the fact that if you take a trip to /r/music you will see countless mentions of Swans/DG songs and albums.
>>63898164
>because you think they're sooooo obscure when in reality they are pop af
Proof?
I think most of the board likes them because they make decent music. But you seem to be the expert, so enlighten us - where's your proof?
>>63898164
abandon the bait-thread. it's not even remotely funny
>>63898164
I don't care if Death Grips are the most popular group on earth, my opinion won't change on them. (I love them)
Swans are okay too but they haven't really done too much for me yet.
Who cares how popular something is?
Why are you projecting so hard?
>>63898164
>
>>63898184
>/mu/ is one person
>>63898184
Great post, this is what I mean. /mu/ is contrarian af, to both mainstream media as well as le wrong generation idiots.
Was anybody really claiming that Swans were underground? Maybe highschoolers who just heard about them I guess.
>>63898164
>making claims that aren't true
stop making assumptions. Swans has always been popular, and it's only a vocal minority who like DG
So, .02% of Facebook's population likes Swans, and that's somehow not obscure?
>>63898191
Proof is the fucking picture I posted. All your memebands are pop music basically. Nothing wrong with that, but then you all go and hate popular music and shit when in reality there's not much difference between, say Dismemeberment Plan and fucking Dance Gavin Dance.
>>63898184
Swans and Death Grips get shit all the time here because of their small internet fame. I bet there hasn't been a Swans or Death Grips thread without the word meme in it since 2012. They are still "alternative", however, because most people who don't consider music a hobby don't know of them. None of these concepts are that hard, and more importantly, none of them matter.
>swans
>meme grips
>obscure
>>63898233
Be reminded that pop music and Popular Music are two different things
>>63898245
this
>>63898252
i'd fuck her in a filthy bathroom
>>63898252
Exactly. /mu/ is like the tumblr chicks who think they are special because they listen to AM and 21 Pilots, except the angry autism beta virgin version.
>>63898252
Who are you quoting?
Swans is about as osbcure as everything else on pitchfork
Might as well call AnCo and Grimes obscure
>>63898277
What's your favorite band and why are you so upset that /mu/ shit on them? We shit on every band at some point.
Obscure or not, Swans are the contemporary band
>>63898254
Ok. /mu/ jerks off grimes amd st vincent when in fact they are no different from katy perry and rihanna. Just because their record labels have successfully pushed that le quirky indie connotation.
>>63898308
>Swans are the contemporary band
What do you mean?
Since when have people thought Swans was obscure? You're misdirecting your anger because I don't think anyone here thought they were
Early Swans > New Swans
Just for the record. New Swans is still good, though
>>63897980
The Seer was a good album, and the other two were decent, but the new incarnation of Swans is nothing special. The true Swans were the ones of the 80s and 90s.
>>63898295
>Implying
My favourite bands get shit on everywhere: leddit, /mu/, even real life. That's not what triggers me. It's this board's dumb hypocrisy that I hate.
>>63898314
>/mu/ jerks off Grimes and St. Vincent
waifufags do, don't peg the rest of us to them
>>63898343
That's cause Three Days Grace is awful.
>>63898353
Their waifuism is the same level of pathetic as the deakins and zach from meme grips fanbases
>>63898362
>implying their s/t isn't essential 3rd grade core
>>63898184
I personally never fell for the pop meme.
>>63898252
>SNAWS
Swans have 30+years long career, why the fuck is it surprising they have 200k fans while still making really good music?
>>63897980
>196,696 likes
>popular
You greatly underestimate the number of people on this planet.
>>63898314
I like St. Vincent but I'm not going to say she's obscure. At the same time I don't think she or Grimes are as popular as you think, as I rarely meet anyone who has known St. Vincent. Which I think is unfortunate because the discussion of her here is awful.
Though I don't think you've listened to her much if you think she's exactly the same as the other 2.
>>63898365
I'd say it's quite a bit more pathetic. The Deakin thing is just hype, which always happens upon a new release, I don't know about Zach Hill, but again, the DG fanbase is a vocal minority
>>63898548
Tell me the difference between St Vincent and someone like Sia.
>>63898589
I'm not that guy, but I'm confused as to what you're so upset about. Did someone shit on your favorite band or something?
>>63898316
they're THE contemporary band
>>63898056
>born in le wrong generation
I mean show me another band that sounds even remotely similar to The Seer
Guess.
>>63898619
Ok, but nobody here is claiming that Swans isn't popular
>>63898252
It's the Cosmogramma tattoo girl again
>>63898164
>pop is short for popular
Die in a fire
>>63898654
hey dude completely unrelated but why did you spell it proge
>>63898077
I guess /mu/ doesn't like
>David Bowie
>The Beach Boys
>Frank Zappa
>Michael Jackson
>Pink Floyd
>King Crimson
>Bruce Springsteen
>Biggie Smalls
>Smashing Pumpkins
>Weezer
>Joy Division
>Elliott Smith
>Kanye West
>Animal Collective
>Black Flag
>My Bloody Valentine
or any other popular bands.
>>63898644
This is more than a little disingenuous anon.
>>63898659
Please stop the bullying
>>63898665
Yo, that's what I mean. Like half of these bands are seen as "alternative" even when they are popular af.
>>63898661
why not
proge is a fun way to spell it
takes the pretentiousness out of a genre considered pretentious
>>63898699
cool i was just wondering lol thanks for the reply
>>63898687
Alternative and popular are not mutually exclusive.
By the way Pop is a genre Popular Music is an umbrella term. Understand the difference
>>63898699
You think so? I feel like it adds pretention. That's just me I guess
>>63898722
>expecting this retard to actually understand anything about music
>/mu doesn't like swans
>I can now like swans without feeling like a trendy dickhead again
>>63898687
Bait or genuine retard.
>>63898717
np senpai
>>63898745
not really, it just makes it sound like a fun word rather than "WOAH DUDE PROGRESSIVE ROCK 2DEEP"
>>63898665
>Throwing in Biggie in the middle just to see if he read it
I like you.
200k is a lot, but if you think about it, it's really not that much
radiohead or some other well known band would easily pull millions of likes.
I've only ever met a handful of people who have heard of swans, and even fewer who actually listen to them
>>63898795
What? Biggie is gennerally loved in /mu/'s hip hop threads, or at least highley respected.
this fucking thread, man
>>63898764
>>63898752
The cyberbullying must end
>>63898589
The music is completely different. They're both basically pop but St. Vincent is a good deal more abrasive on a lot of songs, and especially live. You might as well be saying Radiohead and the Black Keys sound the same because they're both rock bands.
>>63898934
In the end the main reason why she even gets posted here is waifufaggotry. Otherwise she would be an uncommon sighte
>The album peaked at number 37 on US Billboard 200, and later debuted at number 38 on the UK Albums Chart. Both are the highest chartings that Swans had ever achieved on a studio album, and it is the first time that the band cracked the top 40 in both countries
people will unironically say they're underground
>>63898992
Well, you could easily reason that they only broke Top 40 because P4K shilled the hell out of them after The Seer.
Thanks to Larkin that won't be happening this time. The Glowing Man will be far away from the chart
>>63898992
prior to that album they were right on the edge of being popular in the music circles but not enough for the whole project to be profitable for Gira. Noiw it's generating revenue. I think they still make worthwhile material though. Love these guys.
>>63898957
Maybe, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the artist. And this thread is stupid like everyone is saying because most things people talk about on here are pretty popular but even with that popularity a lot of them probably wouldn't be known by some random guy on the street. There are varying degrees of popularity.
Reminder /mu/ to never trust a hipster.
>>63898539
The number of fakes, too.
>>63899106
Literally top 40
I swear that what Gira has done with Swans and Young God has been the most effective transition to the internet age by any musician.
Not only is Swans critically acclaimed and really popular in "indie" (read: hipster) circles and online communities like /mu/, but they also sell the albums in multiple physical and digital formats straight from their website.
They easily profit from rereleases because of the vinyl meme.
Also, he manages to stay active on Facebook without succumbing to the oversharing and lack of common sense like many old celebs/musicians do.
only good post in this thread >>63900255
>>63900255
Great post, absolutely agreed. Swans made a perfect comeback: they refused to look back, got new sound, released some of their best material and are more popular than ever not only with old fans but young folks as well. I don't know a single band that pulled this off.
Please note that I am not dissing Swans' or Mr Raper's musical ability
>>63900255
Swans are one of the very few bands that pulled a revival off post-2000s and still managed to be god tier. The only other one I can think of is Magma
>>63900255
Yeah, everything Gira has done with Swans should be commended. I'm embarrassed for idiots like OP who just see the world through their narrow dumb fucking internet bubble.
Swans have achieved some level of success by hard work and innovating and always changing and evolving their sound. They're not a mainstream group by any means, 200k likes is nothing online. There are music groups out there that get billions in views, BILLIONS, and you're gonna tell me that Swans is even comparable to that because it managed to get into the top 40? They're underground, its' just "underground" is changing, it isn't the same thing it was before, there are thousands of sub cultures online now, this music is made available to a wider group of people, but that group is still part of a "niche" audience, even if they're quite large.
Are there more obscure bands? no fucking shit, this isn't a pissing contest.
>>63898077
/mu/ is not one thing. I listen because they're not undeground and obscure, but because it's good (or accessible, if you hate Swans) music.
>>63897980
>200K likes on fb is a lot
>>63898056
Remember guys, you're a poser if you are in your 20's and like a band that's more than 10 years old.
I see what's going on. Someone shitted on >>63898164 favorite band and now he's out for revenge
>band's name has been mentioned a few times on an internationally frequented digital embroidery conference
>not mainstream
>>63897980
200,000 likes is not a lot
>>63898077
Why do you refer to /mu/ as a single person, or a collective of people that think the same thing?
As soon as you post on /mu/, you are "/mu/".
You're just angry at yourself, stop taking it out on the internet.
>>63898019
Funny meem, my familia! XD
Reading comprehension is for losers!!
God you're all fucking stupid in this thread.
4chan as a whole has always had contrarian culture, but it's gotten a little too extreme lately, to the point where liking anything is considered cringeworthy
Swans has had a large fanbase since the mid-late 2000s, but people on /mu/ delude themselves into believing that Swans was their personal treasure, that they created, despite the fact that their music is widely acknowledged and known to be extremely influential. Swans was barely even discussed on /mu/ until 2013.
one in every 37,600 people in the world have liked Swans on Facebook.
one in every 8,083 Facebook users have liked Swans on Facebook.
for every stream of the most streamed Swans song on Spotify, Screen Shot, Wiz Khalifa mega-hit See You Again has been streamed 394 times
for every view of the most viewed Swans song on Youtube, their cover of Love Will Tear Us Apart, Katy Perry mega-hit has been streamed 2012 times
I've never heard anyone call Swans underground or obscure. You're just trying to find things to complain about.
Heavy enough for the brootal metalhead
Soft enough for the indeh hipster
Transitional "safe" band
OH OH
This is one of the worst threads Ive ever seen on this site. I dont know what level of irony or shitposting this is but its disgusting either way. OP is obviously baiting but judging by the amount of people who have taken it (including me) ill give it an 8/10. Nice shitpost OP, come back anytime for a good laugh.
>>63898630
Glenn Branca
why did /mu/ start hating death grips when they became mainstream then?
>>63906901
/mu/ as a whole doesn't hate anything. The people here who don't like DG are much more vocal than the people who like them. Because of that, people who like them don't talk about it as much outside of /dgg/ threads. This goes with any artist really...
>>63902818
So I'm a poser for liking Bach?
>>63907334
especially if you like classical
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