What are some good artists/bands from Chile? Other than hipster crap like Javiera Mena, Gepe and Dënver.
>That's not even the chilean flag
I really like Planeta No, but since you don't like hipster crap... I still think current music in Chile sucks as they all sound like copying other acts from the USA and UK
best chilean record of the last 10 year right here m8
mineral
Marineros
LOL That's the Texas flag
>>63765935
this is a masterpiece
lo mejor de Chile desde Los Tres y La Ley
>>63765935
third vote for this
also
Los Jaivas
Fother Muckers
YAJAIRA
Follakzoid
>>63765860
Pablo Neruda
>>63766100
>La Ley
su unica funcion era para jotear minas.
Los Prisioneros
chi chi chi le le le en el mapa noce ve
for some reason i could never get into 90s chilean music.
pretty much stayed the course with jorge gonzalez, although i pretty much tuned him out after 'libro'. too bad about his stroke, i got to hang out with him in 2007, dude was cool.
from 00s and on, javiera mena is the only constant. i also like some mkrni.
some other chilean 80s stuff that isn't gonzalez that i like a lot: aparato raro, electrodomesticos, and aterrizaje forzoso.
>>63765860
Tom Araya of Slayer is from Chile.
>>63765860
What music do you like?
>>63765860
>hipster crap
Off yourself. They may be 'hipster' buy they aren't bad artists.
>>63766766
Dënver is upper class garbage though.
>>63766541
>good
Nah seriously though Slayer haven't really done anything interesting since the 80s
>>63766788
Maybe Denver could count, but Mena is pretty good and Gepe is an absolute madman.
the only one that comes in my mind is Los Tres.
>>63766766
Dënver does have good songs (En Medio de Una Fiesta is one of the best chilean pop songs).
The other two are pure garbage.
>>63766822
Los Tres are chilean butt rock.
Violeta Parra
Congreso
Akineton Retard
Como Asesinar a Felipes
>>63766766
They are "good", but not "good enough"
>>63766816
Mena is good, but Gepe got only one good record (Gepinto). He fell for the dumb new pop meme.
I'm gonna leave here some folk punk desu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vNjCHa5wsw
LOS MOX
>>63765860
The Tits
>>63766993
>replying to god of /mu/
>savia
shame on you
>>63766860
i have no chilean relations
my parents are south american tho, but i was born/raised in eeuu so yeah, pero puedo escribir en castellano si prefieres
>>63766993
She's a qt girls though, that God of Mu that is.
>you will never listen to patrician (or should I say matriarchic) music with God of Mu
why even live
>>63767063
>girl
>>63765860
Tortuganonima.
>>63765860
Tenemos Explosivos
>>63767178
>>63767192
Both of this are shit. Music from chile really sucks
>>63767208
Good one BUTTHURT POOR ARGIE LOVER
>>63765860
Ricardo Villalobos (Minimal Techno)
Perdition (Black Metal)
>>63767223
Argentina isn't good either. In fact, even worse...
>>63767208
I give you Tortuganonima, but Tenemos Explosivos is the only good "hardcore" shit we have.
Post your favorite Los Prisioneros song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejT0oSseHg
>>63767223
>>63767253
I mean, both countries had great music decades ago, but now it isn't any good and they all sound like something i heard before
>>63767299
But that applies to the past too. Don't pretend Los Prisioneros or Soda Stereo was something completely new, unheard to the world.
>>63767253
weon here, fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zq6TycDggY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zq6TycDggY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-doCm_W9mY
>>63767325
Prisioneros = The Clash
Soda = The Cure
>>63767299
You really can't find unique scenes in South American pop music (that's not from Brazil), you really shouldn't go with the expectative of finding something truly unique.
Camila Moreno
https://youtu.be/zO6Kesk5whA?t=2m31s
>>63767409
Mala Madre is goat. Everything else is shit though.
>>63767091
Moreno?
>>63767290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qob3dcu4wXM
>>63767368
Nueva Cancion began in Chile, if anything.
>>63767458
Welp, there go my chances to check her previous stuff.
>>63767505
My favorite right now.
>>63767537
Oh well my bad, I was thinking about the last couple of decades, but you're right.
>>63767325
>>63767368
I think innovation is one of the true goals of music and that's why (from my perspective) I feel latinamerican music has failed.
Like Socrates once said "A life unexplored isn't worth living". I think that applies to music in general. All artists should try to experiment and create something completely new.
>>63767537
>check the wiki article
>it adds argentina as the main inventor
ocelote rojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GAbQAerWP4
>>63767550
Check her old stuff, maybe is just me. She used to shout a lot, and played some hippie shit.
>>63767581
And this applies to this new generation of music. There's music in Chile that's amazing as fuck like Los Jaivas and a lot of artists from the 70's
>>63767581
I'm long past the point that I care about innovation. But if you value it then it makes sense that current south american pop music feel unexciting.
>>63767581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz-oUWFT5Cs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2wmuhQj0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8OeUdgFlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkZQ1D7X-LY
These are some good bands.
>>63767709
gooda nest
>>63765860
all the songs in 31 minutos
>>63766032
fuck off
>>63767716
I don't get this. What are you trying to say? I mean, couldn't you even write something? I hate memes...
Ricardo villalobos of fucking course
los abandoned
>>63767844
pilar's fat ass was the only good thing about that band and they're not really a chilean band, same with valenzuela. they don't count imo.
>>63767798
magia pura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmXiV1msgkI
>>63767133
ya llegaron los loros
>Javiera Mena
what the fuck is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ik4mEy75go
>>63767793
>What is Violeta Parra
>>63767843
Can he even be considered chilean?
It's like, I don't even consider Roberto Bolaño to be a chilean writer, Villalobos case is really similar.
>>63767804
what you are looking for is called cueca, tango, samba, bachata, reageton etc.
>>63767881
Yes, I have heard enough Violeta Parra. What's your point?
>>63767887
>Can he even be considered chilean?
Not really, imo.
>I don't even consider Roberto Bolaño to be a chilean writer
I don't know much about him, but he does seem to be.
>>63767887
i know, i just believe he still is a national living treasure to chile. Btw his set last weekend in the parque las esculturas was 10/10
the Mdma was great also
>>63767958
Nueva Canción Chilena has its roots on traditional campo songs. Cities listened mexican music since the 40's.
>>63767887
sure, and Yoko Ono is not Japanese
Alejandro González Iñárritu is not Mexican
Guess Matanza is a nice national proyect, combining local-pre-columbian sounds with electronic music
>>63767915
>cueca, tango, samba, bachata
one trick pony genres, like any traditional music from any country around the world. can be fun, but nothing beyond what we have
>reggaeton
literally just latin hip hop with one beat and whiny singers
>>63768003
Which had their roots in european folk/singer-songwriter music.
>>63768035
>tango
There is Piazolla and Salle Gaveau
>literally just latin hip hop with one beat and whiny singers
So, like blues and rock and roll?
try this album.
>>63768101
>Which had their roots in european folk/singer-songwriter music.
Implying chilean musicians knew about foreign music by that time. NCC was born because of interior folklore, cuban revolution and the political landscape of late 60's.
>>63768101
>Piazolla
He started as a tango artist, made a few songs, but he ended up hating that genre and went straight orchestral.
Los bunkers
>>63768169
>Implying chilean musicians knew about foreign music by that time.
Yes, they did.
>NCC was born because of interior folklore
Not really. Can you name what the actual musical roots of NCC were instead of just "interior folklore"?
Because from what I can hear, it's european singer/songwriter stuff with some regional influences like cueca or andean song.
>>63768171
Fair enough.
>>63768252
Tenemos un hilo como este todas las semanas.
>>63768272
But they didn't. Mexican cinema craze buried national music. And cueca is old as fuck. Even in Mexico they listened to it (they called it "chilana"). You are comparing old music by today standarts. Violeta Parra and Margot Loyola brought campo music to the mainstream audience.
If you are thinking about Victor Jara you got a point, just because he was an uni teacher. Even then, his musical roots came from the interior.
>>63768394
>But they didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violeta_Parra#First_journey_to_Europe_and_prime
>And cueca is old as fuck.
I know, so what's your point?
>Even then, his musical roots came from the interior.
He started with regional folk music, but eventually showed up the european influences (keep in mind regional music from chile (and latin countries in general) had mostly european origins because of the colonization.
che god of mu
>>63768507
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violeta_Parra#First_journey_to_Europe_and_prime
>1955
And by old as fuck cueca i mean that campo music has no european influence. Maybe you're mixing Nueva Canción with Canto Nuevo, chilean-european trova.
Cueca is not chilean, but chilean cueca had influence over latin america.
>>63768611
>1955
So? It means NCC had european influences, or not?
>And by old as fuck cueca i mean that campo music has no european influence.
It had, because it was music being played by people with spanish heritage on it's beginnings.
>Maybe you're mixing Nueva Canción with Canto Nuevo, chilean-european trova.
Nope
>Cueca is not chilean, but chilean cueca had influence over latin america.
agree, it even had influences on NCC, but NCC had important european singer/songwriter influences too (which was indeed possible thanks to record labels like RCa Victor and Parra's (and possibly others) trips to europe).
>>63767872
the song may be pseudo-indie generic electropop, but it's alright. the video is fucking cringe.
>>63768029
>Alejandro González Iñárritu is not Mexican
Oh sure, because someone that left the country at age 3 is the same as someone who started his artistic career in his home country.
>>63768724
>It had, because it was music being played by people with spanish heritage on it's beginnings.
That's cherrypicking. And Parra got recognition after she came back from the URRS. The political landscape from late 60's gave birth to NCC. Before that, it was just campo music. Remember that Violeta was a recopiladora in the first place. She saved old songs from the beggining of the XX century.
Anglo folk and NCC share a lot, but folk musicians here got a bit of recognition only in the 60's. They had to compete with Nueva Ola faggotry too.
>>63768929
>That's cherrypicking.
No. Cueca had mostly european/spanish influences, meaning that this statement
>And by old as fuck cueca i mean that campo music has no european influence.
Is wrong.
Cherrypicking has nothing to do with this.
>And Parra got recognition after she came back from the URRS.
She started recording during/after her trip to europe, so not really true.
>The political landscape from late 60's gave birth to NCC.
Yes, but we are talking about musical influences here, especially regarding european influences, so why bring that up?
>Before that, it was just campo music. Remember that Violeta was a recopiladora in the first place. She saved old songs from the beggining of the XX century.
True, and those would eventually influence NCC, but NCC's influence was still mostly european.
>Anglo folk and NCC share a lot
agree
>but folk musicians here got a bit of recognition only in the 60's.
Thanks to Parra's trip to europe and her music being recorded and sold.
>>63769100
I don't know what else to tell you pham. There's no cueca equivalent on Europe. Jara had Dylan influence but Parra was 100% interior song.
>>63769286
>There's no cueca equivalent on Europe
Correct, but that doesn't mean it had no european origins. I mean, read this
>While its origins are not clearly defined, it is considered to have mostly European Spanish and arguably Indigenous influences. The most widespread version of its origins relates it with the zamacueca which arose in Peru as a variation of Spanish Fandango
Which means, it's rooted in spanish music, which means it's rooted in european music. That's the case for cueca.
as for NCC, while it had regional folk and andean folk influences, it was mostly made up of european singer/songwriter style music (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singer-songwriter#History), which was possible thanks to RCa Victor record label and her trips to europe.
Both genres had mostly (but not exclusively) european influences.
>>63769411
With that standarts, all latino music has european influences. There's latino folk and chilean NCC. The main feature of NCC is the political lyrics. But yeah, is an endless debate. There's a lot of people researching the roots now.
>>63769545
Latin music is literally spanish music that developed in america.
If the main feature of a musical genre are it's lyrics, does it mean it's really a musical genre?
I fail to see how this is an endless debate. You made some specific statements that could have been proven wrong and we seem to be making some progress about it.
>>63769640
>Latin music is literally spanish music that developed in america.
You are dismissing all the indigenous heritage. And the lyrics may be a debatable argument now, but there's a lot of music based on the lyrics. See early rap in USA.
>>63769739
I'm not because they are not latins.
And early rap was a musical genre, no matter the lyrics.
>>63769903
And NCC is not a musical genre? I can cherrypick too. This is a moot argument.
>>63765860
Can someone post picardias
>>63770029
>>63769974
I didn't say that, you did.
Not a moot argument, again. Unless you are arguing for arguing's sake.
>>63770125
You are doing that. A lot of chilean musicologist disagree with your statements.
>>63770195
Doing what exactly? Can you cite where I said that?
Can you cite those mysterious musicologists?
>>63770339
No, because i work with them. Enjoy you internet victory though.
>>63770339
g2b weon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7k98xSIUWU
GOAT KINO SONG FROM CHILE
>>63765860
i was gonna make a joke about that being the texan flag but it turns out it really is the texan flag
>>63766816
gepe is absolute shit
>>63767192
>>63767178
good shit
>>63767289
>what is Asamblea Internacional del Fuego
>what is Contra Todos Mis Miedos
>what is En Mi Defensa
>what is Intenta Detenerme
lurk into the scene or fuck off
>>63767409
Camila a qt
>>63767798
meme trash
