What is it with millenials and childhood nostalgia faggotry ? We have TWO mainstream songs about it on air right now:
> twenty one pilots: Stressed Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY
> Lukas Graham - 7 Years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHCob76kigA
They're not "bad" per say but it really feels like 2016 fad is crawling back into mom's vagina.
Oh yeah, I should point out, they are both very white and pretends to rap.
>>63757092
oh god 21 pilots is so awful i cant stand them
their music isnt the worst but their tumblr special snowflake fan base made it even worse imo
and its cus they all wanna stay in their safe spaces instead of growing the hell up
>>63757125
my dad really like 21 Pilots
He's a 50 year-old conservative
>>63757092
This shit shit sounds very commercial friendly, I wouldn't be surprised if either of these acts are smother in corporate dick.
>>63757092
Both of these songs are terrible, but 7 Years is one of the most unpleasant things I've ever heard. The emotional intensity of the lyrics is so painfully unearned and desperate
>>63757194
That's because it's white rap. Conservatives like them. Just like christian rock.
>>63757376
>>63757125
I was a teenager during the early 2000's. I know real shit.
Sure it's not good, but it's not THAT bad.
>>63757376
seconded, couldn't get past the first 30 secs
Childhood nostalgia in music is nothing new. See Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever.
>>63757092
Nostalgia of younger years is a recurring them in music of all kinds you stupid faggot. You're also definitely a fucking millenial.
everything is childhood nostalgia tbqh
>falling for the growing up meme
oh boy it's no wonder so many oldfags are permanently grimacing constantly without end
>>63757837
t. teenager
>>63757092
>What is it with snake people and childhood nostalgia faggotry
Boy do I love this chrome extension
>>63757092
Lucas Graham reminds me of a bad version of Plan B. 21 Pilots is just awful.
>>63757194
yoo mine too he is a 49 year old liberal
>>63757782
Yeah but at least those songs had respectable , modulating, interesting melodies, and delivered the message in a much more subtle and tasteful way
>>63757376
then to think that the past 2 months i worked in a factory were they had this shit on blast EVER FUCKIN DAY. At first i thought it was the weeknd who sang this (every top 40 artist is starting to sonud the same). I dont know how people can listen to this all the time :/
>>63757911
>this is me. A middle schooler about to graduate.
these are people who never grew up.
>>63757092
Millenials are struggling to make a name for themselves and conquer their independence. It's not necessarily their fault, but due to a wide set of factors [I'm linking some articles in the end of this post but there's a lot more to read on it].
I think it is normal, in the face of adversity and some self-doubt that might come with it, for millenials to look back on their childhood as the "good old times", where they had no worries and just lived a good simple happy life.
This being said, this kind of music is very mainstream, so it is not that unusual for it to be so popular, but still, the theme of it's lyrics probably plays a big roll too.
http://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21688591-millennials-are-brainiest-best-educated-generation-ever-yet-their-elders-often
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/11/the-guardian-view-on-millennials-a-deepening-age-divide-and-the-growing-pains-of-gen-y
>>63757092
>mfw 90% of this board are millennials or born post y2k
>they call each other cancer and act if they are better than one another
This entire thread is cancer comparable to the retards on YouTube who were born in the "wrong generation"
>>63758160
/mu/ really is a fucking playground. What threads do the 18+ /mu/ people hang out in? I've just started using this board and it's as young as /b/. Do you make your own threads? Some generals aren't bad but I want to escape from kid memes and cliquey bullshit and I wonder if there are any other threads that attract the adults here.
>>63758128
There's also the fact that people were just happier and more carefree before September 2001.
WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TRIME
>>63758277
any discussion that requires actual musical discussion is usually devoid of kiddies.
Ironically, also devoid of posts, so that says something.
>>63758313
TO THE GOOD OLD DAAAAAAYYS
>>63758319
Yeah I've tried making general threads without memes and they just don't get any attention. Meanwhile the top threads are blatantly flooded with children.
>>63758319
Like where do you go in /mu/? What threads do you normally look for to avoid this?
The nostalgia factor in music is just kind of comforting to me. That's all.
>>63757821
this is good but even better would be to say that everyone is still a child, really
i mean we're all still playing pretend, like we pretend that little rectangles of paper have value, or that the mall is a "shopping experience" and not just a huge well-lit warehouse
we all have the same desires and needs as when we're children, i guess sex is a new one
>>63758389
To some degree I agree, but I would add that we're for the most part unsatisfied children, burdened by the weight of responsibility and the expectations we set for each other.
Not really relevant, but something my grandfather says which I find very endearing is that the older he gets, the more he feels like a child. But he says it in a good way, not in a being-dependent-on-others way.
>>63758461
did you find your childhood satisfying?
mine was weird most of the time, if not unhappy. i see why people like the song but i cant romanticize my childhood
>>63758389
You realize that adults can tell you're not actually an adult right? When adults think of adulthood their brain doesn't go to shopping malls and adults don't pretend money has value.
>>63758389
>i mean we're all still playing pretend, like we pretend that little rectangles of paper have value, or that the mall is a "shopping experience" and not just a huge well-lit warehouse
lol epic bro I too love smoking the dank marijuana
>>63758544
I know right? So fucking deep.
>>63758389
Damn dude you really have the world figured out
>smokes weed freshman year of high school once
>>63758522
those were just examples of adults playing pretend. and yeah, we all do pretend money has value, everyone's participation is why it works. not sure how or why youd disagree with this
if you were to ask of course id say there are a lot of things that makes adulthood different than childhood, like independence or responsibilities. there is more overlap than difference imho
>>63757194
Same
>>63758544
>>63758572
>>63758575
it's easy to spot children who never paid attention in school, or out of school, or at any moment in time really
>>63758544
>>63758575
>>63758572
i hate weed fyi. i really dont think what i said was deep at all. its a pretty simple observation
>>63758616
straight a student.
>>63758373
/metal/, /gg/, /noise/, /bleep/ are generally pretty good userbases.
There are still memes and autism but it's more in a fun way instead of an insufferable way. You don't have crowds of high schoolers posting twitter memes and beating each other off.
>>63758601
Money has value, you literal child. We are not pretending it has value.
>>63758634
I want to make a rock or blues general but they never get off the ground.
>>63758601
Also there is a huge fucking difference between adulthood and childhood. Almost every single detail about life is different as an adult
>>63758666
Not that guy.
Economics major.
Value has no intrinsic value, it does not satisfy a need, it is only a mean of exchange. I agree that he's view of the world is childish but don't go around spreading misinformation regarding the value of money.
>>63758703
*meant money has no intrinsic value, and his instead of he's
>>63757092
It's just the difficulty of keeping up with the constant new developments that makes people want to go back to the good ol' days. Same reason we got all these conservatards, they can't handle the constant exposure and change of the internet age, so they start longing for the past. We younglings don't even know what real nostalgia is either, we just like to think we do. A 70-year old hearing their favourite childhood tune on youtube, that's nostalgia. Kids misappropriating words, as usual.
>>63758666
Yeah. Unfortunately if you want to discuss more specific stuff like that you have to go to Reddit, which sucks because the way it's set up discourages actual discussion of obscure stuff (people invariably spam whatever they know will get them upvotes, which is just whatever's popular).
I bet a rock general could get off the ground. May 404 a few times but if you set up a pastebin and had a clear idea of what you wanted to discuss I bet a lot of people would participate, I would.
>>63758277
The older crowd has moved on to /lit/
>>63758634
>/metal/, /gg/, /noise/, /bleep/ are generally pretty good userbases
>the memes my shitty subculture comes up with are good, all other memes are bad
>>63758666
its literally a piece of paper. it has little objective value as such. the value is subjective, ie pretending
you could burn it to keep warm but it doesnt have value the same way food has value, for example.
>>63758697
tell me what that huge "fucking" difference is? you seem a little mad. take it easy bro im not questioning your adulthood.
fwiw i work, live in my own apartment away from my family, pay my own rent and bills and support my family from time to time if they need money.
>>63758634
>you don't have crowds of high schoolers beating each other off
>>63758703
Yeah I understand that a paper rectangle has no utility but it still has value. I just walked out of a store with beer because I exchanged 8 dollars for it.
>>63758730
I'm starting one right now if you want to help out. I'll link it when it's up in a minute.
>>63758733
I'm not going to stop liking music because books exist.
>>63758733
That explains why /lit/ went to shit.
>>63758128
Nostalgia is pretty normal..I can only take so much before it gets old to me.
>>63758733
>The older crowd
90% of lit is college freshmen who've taken a philosophy 101 class and read a Wikipedia article about Marxism
>>63757092
Technology and life in general progresses in a month what used to take a year. Couple that with the fact that our generation is blamed by the older generation for being the cause of every problem with the world while we do our best to try to figure out literally any way at all that we could possibly fix the fucked situation they have left for us, and the pressure that comes from people looking to our generation to be "progressive" while also forcing us into a box, and you've got an entire generation of people who are aimless, scared, and in an existential crisis. People who would want nothing more at this point than to go back to 15 or 20 years ago when we were in elementary school and people weren't expecting the world from us.
>>63758814
BRANDON
FUCK
>>63758832
And 90% of /mu/ can't drive legally.
>>63758277
The /daily/ thread is usually the main place to find general music discussion. It's also the best place to find music that isn't posted on /mu/ every 2 hours.
That's what I recommend, if you can stomach the tripfags, which are in all honesty a lot better than the memesters and shitposters that are ruining this website.
>>63758730
And the /rock general/ is up.
63758915
Fammmm
Recently I've digging old OTMOP gigs and scouring the net for old Stamper pics
I really miss the 00's, shit makes my heart melt
Also Fast n Furious
Post >yfw you realize that literally every problem we Millenials have would have likely not occurred if not for Al Qaeda
>No War on Terror
>No bursting Housing bubble
>Friendly relations with the Middle East (outside of Iranian dipshits)
>Good terms with Russia
>No distraction from the economic policies that have led to the destruction of the US job market
God, I wish the world would just end desu.
>>63758981
>every problem we Millenials have would have likely not occurred if not for Al Qaeda
>implying
>>63758389
oh fuck off
>>63757092
>Arcade Fire have made two fucking albums about "childhood nostalgia faggotry" and they're all late gen x-ers.
>Bruce Springsteen practically built the first two decades of his career off of this. He's 66 and his debut album came out 43 years ago.
>Literally 95% of all emo songs are about this. Emo has been around since the 80s.
You ask "What is it with millenials and childhood nostalgia faggotry?" as though only people born after 1983 have ever written / enjoyed / felt they could relate to songs about nostalgia or wanting to be young again.
That being said, Twenty One Pilots still suck ass.
>>63757092
that's a popular theme in general bud
pretty common
gr8 thread
>>63758981
>tfw every problem we millenials have would have likely not occurred if not for religion
it's so obvious
>>63759053
>implying
>>63758730
Totally derailed by pedantics
>>63759114
New thread,
>>63758981
You gotta school yourself some more, you can't go around being this ignorant about how shit works. All of this shit is just a proxy war revolving around energy supply. Nobody's actually trying to end Al Qaeda, it's just for show since nobody could get elected democratically without pretending to. Al Qaeda exists because of Western interference in the Middle East, because the Middle East has dat oil, and there's no way that type of shit can disappear without withdrawing from the Middle East, and everyone knows that. The only thing that can "solve" the situation (how you gonna "solve" the existence of regular-ass conflict) is by transitioning from dependency on Middle Eastern oil, and then you're most likely just gonna end up with another set of problems. This shit ain't shit. We're not living in a particularly violent time. We're not going to make armed conflict disappear. Get used to it.
>>63758981
There's a lot more to our problems than just Al Qaeda. I think a lot of it has to do with the
>"you can be ANYTHING YOU WANT to be when you grow up because you're so smart and special uwu"
attitude that a lot of our baby boomer parents and teachers had because they grew up in a very economically prosperous time, where what most would consider "success" was much more easily attainable.
>>63759328
What problems exactly stem from that?
>>63757092
>per say
>>63759361
Older people not realizing that times now aren't as good as they were in the late 70's and 80's, then expecting the same success from young people in 2016 when America is in visible decline.
>>63759489
Older people being stupid isn't the cause of any real issues though (more than other kinds of voter stupidity, that is). That's just an annoyance at family get-togethers.
>>63758160
everyone born after the year 1977 is a millennial
>>63759552
Oh it's more than that anon, this directly affects policy and voting patterns.
There are a huge amount of older people and younger people who don't even understand that this is happening.
>>63759656
I know it's happening, I'm saying older people being stupid isn't the specific cause of it.
>>63759552
>>63759699
There ignorance of its existence is letting in continue and increase in severity.
>>63759716
As I said, "more than other kinds of voter stupidity".
>>63759832
I don't know man, in my experience older people are completely unwilling to admit that we have it harder than they did, or the other things that come along with that reality.
>>63757782
>Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever
>childhood nostalgia
I think you mean drug use
>>63757194
>>63757910
>>63758607
What's it like being pleb spawn?
>>63759612
>1977
I think you mean 1987. People who are almost 40 are not millenials.
>>63759928
It varies, but somewhere '77-'82 is the consensus.
>>63759361
Older generations expect us to have a happy-go-lucky outlook on life, a family, a 50k+/year job that we enjoy doing every day from 9 to 5, a house, and a degree from a well-recognized university by the time we're in our late 20's because "we did it, so why can't you?" That simply isn't feasible for most people with the economic environment we've been in for the past ten or so years. So when we don't live up to the older generations' expectations, they see us all as lazy and childish, without looking into the reasons behind why we supposedly act that way.
>>63759969
You moron I've never seen anyone consider people born before 1985 as a millenial. Millennials are born between 1985 - 1995. Before that was Gen X. After is Gen Z. Kill yourself.
>listening to the radio
Millenials are called millenials because they came of age at the turn of the millenium.
I'm born in 1989. I got to live in the heyday of MTV, the golden age of Hip Hop music, I got to live in the arcade boom, I got to live in the golden age of Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network, the golden age of anime and the golden age of video games. So don't blame me for missing when the world used to be great.
>>63760055
Is there something wrong with that? Sometimes I want to drive and listen to new popular music.
>>63760012
You and the people you talk to not knowing what the fuck you're talking about does not translate into me being a moron.
>>63760068
we are now in a golden age of memes, so things arent that bad
Smashing Pumpkins did it in the 90s with 1979.
>>63760076
95% of shit on the radio is shit, thats whats wrong with listening to the radio. if i listen to the radio i'll listen to npr or the classical station because both stations occasionally play world music or atleast give me some sort of information thats going on in the world regardless if its biased or not
>>63760099
I love when people are so fucking obviously wrong and will not admit it due to some childish insecurity.
People born in 1977 are gen X'ers and you're a clueless faggot.
>Millennials (also known as the Millennial Generation[1] or Generation Y) are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates for when the generation starts and ends; most researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to around 2000.
Generation X
Generation X, commonly abbreviated to Gen X, is the generation born after the Western Post–World War II baby boom. Most demographers and commentators use birth dates ranging from the early 1960s to the early 1980s.
End your life tonight, you useless piece of shit.
>>63759928
People designate different years every generation. I define 1900-25 as the Greatest Generation, 1926-45 as the Silent Generation, 1946-63 as the Baby Boomers, 1964-83 as Gen X, 1984-99 as the Millenials/Gen Y, and everyone after 2000 as whatever the fuck they're calling that one now, and that generally seems to be how other people define them, too.
>>63760144
Good for you. Some people do their intellectual inspiration when they're not driving.
>>63760157
>End your life tonight
I lost it
>>63760338
Lol I just really hate people who won't admit that they're wrong about something.
>>63760157
The article you're quoting puts the start around '82, which is between '77 and '87 (where the fuck is '87 "early 80's" you dumb fuck, oh wait you changed it to '85 between posts but still managed to be wrong) and while that's a common estimate, there are more who put it before '82 than after it. Fucking moving the goalposts like a motherfucker and talking shit like that's gonna make it less obvious.
>>63757092
> Lukas Graham - 7 Years
I had to turn it down so my parents don't mistakenly think i'm gay
>>63760533
Literally never said 87. You're quoting someone else because you're two stupid to keep track of a conversation.
I just think its an easy talking point for a lot of people to have. Every single group of people is going to have a 'good ol days' mindset. Its just wasted air, like when people say 'oh man pokemon 2000 came out X years ago im sahhh olddd' because they are just boring people. nothing to say, might as well state how time passing makes you feel older than you actually are. People also hold onto things from their youth that were vastly inferior and latch onto them for no reason. you always see shit like 'Kids dont know what the floppy disc means anymore' well yeah no shit, they are redundant, why would somebody thats never used them know what they are? Whenever i think of someone that mentions this shit as if its even remotely interesting all i can think of is somebody that watches KIDS REACT TO [OLD THING] videos.
Why did i type all this shit.
>>63760696
too*
>>63760725
Generally true, but people seriously were happier before September 2001 in America.
I cant begin to explain in words how dramatic the change was, but this live feed of the change might help if you're not old enough to remember.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn9EVxueiyc
>>63757867
Plan B? Wtf you on, Lucas Graham would never make ill manors
every year we get one of these self-important, self-referential songs to offset all the dreck in the top-40. it's like the pop-culture deciding to pop a musical multivitamin, thinking it'll makeup for their lack of a healthy musical diet. "same love" "brave" "a thousand years" "if i die young" some bland, midtempo, inoffensive adult contemporary smash with cross-generational appeal. it's been that way for awhile now. "stressed out" is just this year's statement song much like green day's "time of your life" was in 1997. expect to be hearing it at every graduation ceremony and in the background of multiple 2016 year-end montages.
>>63760157
Nobody says 1977 are millennials nowadays, but back when the idea was emerging, they tended to use that date
>>63758277
the top 50/100 threads definitely used to skew towards late teens/early twenties and they still kinda of do maybe 40 to 50 percent of the time
honestly though this board really is all children
it didn't really strike me until I got older and went to boards like /fit/ where people entering their thirties are common
>>63760837
>mfw reading the comments
>>63760725
I agree. This cringey pretentious shit comes up on every /v/, /tv/, /pol/, etc. thread abut millennials
>A BLOO BLOO BLOO FACEBOOK CAME OUT IN MY FIRST YEAR OF MIDDLE SCHOOL INSTEAD OF MY FIRST YEAR OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL I'M SOOOOOOOO MUCH OLDER AND WISER AND BETTER AND DIFFERENT
>Le the kids these days will never know muh 90s cartoons because they are retards that listen to Justin Bieber xD
>If you were le born before [insert arbitrary year] your the last generation with common sense xD Like and share
I miss when this kind of posting was confined to Buzzfeed or Facebook.
>>63760068
>I got to live in the heyday of MTV, the golden age of Hip Hop music,
No you fucking didn't, don't pretend you were crying when Kurt Cobain and Tupac died. Your favorite music at age 6 wasn't Nirvana; it was the Cast of Sesame Street.
>>63758511
I feel like people who really romantacize childhood, and I mean who really deeply yearn to be young or to never age problem have some messed up views around the concept of self agency. I didn't particularly like my childhood either but I think that even if mine had been happy I don't think I'd have willingly relinquished the ability to make your own decisions
>>63761081
Yeah they're pretty bad. As someone who remembers it, my butthurt is eternal and it's pretty much the only thing I find offensive.
>>63761192
>i wasn't even born when this happened but rip to the 3k peeps tho
I can't handle this.
>>63760837
>Jennifer Oberstein is the first witness on the phone
>>63758733
I went to /lit/ once and it seems like a disaster of a board. The first thread I saw was a bunch of anons talking about how they had no gfs in addition to what Smith's song made them cry the most
what the fuck
>>63761242
Yeah I had to stop scrolling pretty quick. Those kids have no fucking idea.
>>63760068
this is exactly the kind of shit i was talking about here >>63760725
You do realize everything you find great about your childhood is still available to every child alive now? and its almost certainly easier to find and consume?
>when the world used to be great.
Oh fuck off, earth is getting safer and better every year.
>>63761154
or >people that were 5 when 4chan came out are able to post now
yeah no shit, the site is 13 years old.
>>63761313
>he doesn't remember America before September 2001
>he thinks media platforms are the best indicator of societal happiness
>>63761313
Also "the world is getting safer" is very misleading. There is less overall war, but that includes shithoels you'll never visit. Terrorist attacks and mass shootings are way more common in the west than they have been in a long time. Wealth inequality and societal divisions have grown to sizes not seen in 100-150 years.
>>63761371
>America is the whole world
>he thinks media platforms are the best indicator of societal happiness
when did i say this?
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_1_crime_in_the_united_states_by_volume_and_rate_per_100000_inhabitants_1993-2012.xls
Compare 1993 with 2012 for me, would ya bud?
>>63761365
>people that were 5 when 4chan came out are able to post now
Things like that I can understand, it is kind of a shocking realization.
But all those /pol/, /tv/, and /v/ posts overanalyzing the "cutoff year" for generations or how "waaahhh I hate people two years younger than me they don't know VHS" are just cringey and smack of Facebook/Buzzfeed.
>>63761432
http://ourworldindata.org/data/violence-rights/homicides/
Why is everyone so nostalgic for the past? The past was empty as fuck. if it wasn't we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. Someone just freeze me and wake me up in 200 years.
>>63761443
Nigs shooting eachother less is a small impact on our society. Mass shootings in middle class areas have skyrocketed, our nation is the most hooked on anti-depressants in the whole world, people are poorer and our nation's debt is bigger than our entire fucking GDP, people also think about terrorists regularly.
Things are bad.
>>63761506
Changes literally nothing I said. Most crime is in ghettos, mass shootings in middle class areas have skyrocketed.
>>63761506
Oh sorry this is worldwide, I'm talkign about America.
WE ARE THE NEW AMERICAAAANA GETTING HIGH ON LEGAL MARIJUANA RAISED ON BIGGIE AND NIRVAAANA
>>63757708
21 pilots are actually christian
>>63761885
This really isn't bad relative to other pop songs.
I don't mind having some generational pride.
>>63762009
Yeah but it's over such stupid things
>dude we use drugs lmao
>>63762057
Seems like it's about more than just that. I also wouldn't call smoking bud "using drugs". If you've ever actually used drugs you'd understand.
>>63762084
It's really not.
It's like the greatest generation bragging about drinking alcohol, it's lame
>>63762162
Yeah it's pretty fucking gay. I just don't think it's worse than other pop.
>>63762009
>generational pride
i doubt that most 18 year olds today were even aware of what was happening on 9/11. i was born in 1992 and even I'm more familiar with eminem, 50 cent and shitty pseudo-emo pop rock than "biggie and nirvana". but of course, 50 cent and my chemical romance are not plaid shirt grunge and "muh hiphop culture"...who would want to be proud about 50 cent. it's not generational pride, it's just supposed to be "cool" to say you were born around the time nirvana was around, even tho you started listening to them when you were 15 at best, in 2013
>>63761081
>>63761192
>>63761242
>>63761282
>think anons are just overstating how bad the comments are
>decide to read some comments for myself
>mfw it actually is that bad
>>63761885
>>63762009
>>63762370
>There are Youtube and Facebook commenters born in like 84-89 who say they grew up in the "the golden age of MTV, the golden age of Hip Hop music", or say Come As You Are is "an anthem for all 90s kids"
No you fucking didn't, don't pretend you were crying when Kurt Cobain and Tupac died. Your favorite music at age 6 wasn't Nirvana - it was the Cast of Sesame Street.
That's like someone born in 59 saying they're "The Beatles Generation", despite being too young to see the Beatles, attend Woodstock, or smoke pot in the 60s.
>>63762737
i wasn't defending him, i was trying to say basically what you said
>>63762893
I know, I was agreeing with you
>>63759895
They were both more about nostalgia than drugs.
>>63757092
>"I care what you think"
>Has a full-neck tattoo
Dissonance
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>>63757376
Holy shit, this. My least favorite thing in music is when the singer tries to force an emotion that he or she has clearly never actually experienced, and both of those songs do just that.
>>63757092
>They're not "bad" per say
No, both of those songs are insufferable.
Also, holy shit, that Lukas Graham guy is like 27 and he looks like he's 15.
