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help /prod/ I've hit a block
>been learning muh scales/chords
>can easily make a lead
>cannot for the life of me come up with a bassline that "fits" with the lead
I am sure that I am missing/forgetting something really simple. I mean, besides being in the same key, what else should I need to know when making basslines from a lead? Is there a "rule of thumb" ie depending whether the lead is in a major or minor scale? pls halp
>>61341519 pls
>>61342117
just liek make bass
no but seriously just make a parallel harmony bassline
>>61342248
so as long as it stays in the same key I "should" be fine?
>>61342043
>Learn that Image-Line is going to bring back graph editors eventually, and that you should just buy whatever you fucking want to buy though
Lazy/10
>>61342265
yes. and if it sounds wrong you did a happy little accident somewhere else
>>61342117
Not sure what you're after exactly, but if all else fails, just put your bass on the tonic of the chord, as you probably know.
Another thing that might be relevant is to check out "simple counter melody writing" if you want melodic bass. This is a part of most conservatory applications. Just google it.
https://clyp.it/i20tts4e
post them treeel clyps my family
Could someone please give me some feedback or critique me on this?
https://clyp.it/uj4r20qz
>>61342146
>Not the best recording quality but I think the song sounds decent so far.
I can't hear shit, its barely audible
>>61342823
Dope dude, love the tribal feel and the "woo" sound at 0:53-0:54. My only advice would be to pan/space out your percussion.
>>61342890
Lead bass line is pretty sick but it could use something in the upper register to complement it, like a sweet ass melody or some arps
https://clyp.it/fc1hithw
any tips for this WIP senpai?
https://clyp.it/ycoyj51y
im a bit stuck in the process, not sure what to add and tweak in the mix...
>>61343048
If you're going for the theme of shopping for furniture within the Sims, then you've definitely nailed the mood. Overall though, not too bad. It becomes repetitive after 1:50 and losses my attention. But I really like 2:35 and on. You should use that as your breakdown in between choruses.
>>61343138
I wouldn't add anything to it, it sounds fantastic! But it gets boring after awhile and runs itself into the ground. Unless you have it at 5 mins for a reason, I'd cut it down.
Is pic related any good for a beginner musician? And what program should I use with it? Pls help me guys.
>>61343322
thanks dude! I'll try to add some interesting extra melodies and variations in the drums, and will cut the track down a bit.
thinking about buying the MPK49 to be honest
why the FUCK aren't my plugins showing up in Ableton
the cock sucking .vst files are in library/audio/plugins/VST and the piece of shit installation folder is set to that exact location yet there's fucking nothing there son of a fucking bitch I've done everything i'm going to fucking kill myself as soon asap fuck God
>>61345512
kek never mind I'm an idiot
>>61345512
ummm...is your Ableton 32 or 64 bit?
>>61345626
32, that wasn't the problem though. I figured it out and now I'm embarrassed
>>61345816
>I fixed it.
...
Nigger, we want to laugh too.
QUESTION
I've been making rhythmic/dance-y noise/power electronic stuff, similar I guess to Frozen Niagra Falls. But every time the kick hits it thumps, and not in a good way, and the master is physically painful to listen to. I have no idea what to do to get it to sound "normal".
>>61346227
where is your kick sitting at? You do know how to mix and get "loudness" out of your track right?
>>61346227
Mix and equalize properly. Sidechain if you absolutely need to. Also how did you produce the kick? Did you sample it? From a pack of samples? I always make my own kicks out of my acoustic drums. Just shape and layer many sounds while considering the overall mix. Do you use a soundcard? What type? What daw? Mixer? Need a lot of specs to help. Maybe a screenshot of the kick channel and all effects on it.
What do you think of my song ?
https://clyp.it/mffxrbwq
>>61342043
hey /prod/, i've been out of producing for a long while because of school, but now that I got a shiny new macbook i want to get back into it. i'm wondering if i have to re-acquire ableton live or if there's a reliable way to copy an application from one macintosh to another without resorting to time machine backups?
>>61346941
>a reliable way to copy an application from one macintosh to another without resorting to time machine backups
... like keeping your install files for this exact reason?
>>61346988
yeah, this occurred to me seconds after i posted. thanks f.a.m.
>>61346633
I like it, especially the little whistle-y flute. but the disc scratch is a little raw, maybe try eq'ing it more/differently?
does anyone else like dis
https://clyp.it/mp5e14x0
https://clyp.it/t3e30srw
Anyone have any tips to make this sound better?
>>61342117
Maybe make the bassline first then build a lead on top of it? Start simple and embellish the bass later if needed.
>>61347122
...and he loves, or maybe even hates... chips.
How do I learn to rap and not sound like an ignorant honkey?
I am, indeed, an ignorant honkey, but I want to be able to flow. I just started a few days ago and have been practicing every day, but I want to learn little tricks and tips for flowing more smoothly.
So far, I've figured out that I have to add little filler words like "really" and "just" to get a smoother flow.
I'm not trying to be Eminem, but I want people to be able to listen to my stupid lyrics and not projectile vomit.
can anybody help me to get my guitar to not sound like shit/sound better in the mix? Thanks in advance
https://clyp.it/p2rnetcl
using a stat-voxac15-sm57 on the edge of the speaker
>>61347417
what did you think of season 9? I thought it was lacking in the writing and subsequently the goddamn jokes
>>61347921
yeah, something didnt feel right. loved gay jez tho
>>61345816
You didn't rescan the folder, did you?
https://clyp.it/qg4yjgw1
Here's a track I did a while ago. Would like your thoughts on it. It was meant to be used for a fashion youtube channel, so there's the intro, and then easy listening ish background stuff.
Does anybody remember when /mu/ used to have some type of /production/ sample theme or whatever? It went like this
>dubs chooses song that gets sampled
>anons submit clyp or soundcloud of sampled song
>compare, contrast, sampled stuff is catalogued
>next song is chosen next day
that shit was fun. I dont remember the tripfag that started it, but i do remember it being a regular thing for a good few weeks
>>61347515
Learn all manner of poetry terms and techniques (meter, timing, assonance etc.) You will need them to stand out from the unwashed horde of no talent rappers who don't even know english.
be different. dont be afraid to stand out, its actually more important to have some sort of discerning characteristic, because white rappers cant afford to try to front and act hard.
lastly, actually try to battle rap, freestyle and get involved with cyphers, to really test your mettle. if you know how to turn a phrase, you r in business.
>>61348914
yes I loved that shit
>>61342823
>https://clyp.it/i20tts4e
were you trying to make a beat? It sounds pretty good
>>61342890
sounds a little muddy man but i like the general idea
>>61343451
maybe ableton? I wish I would have learned that from the get go
https://clyp.it/zhx23pjs
Don't know where to go from here. I'm at the breakdown of the song
>>61348996
Thanks for the tips. I honestly appreciate it, even if I am just going to use them to write even goofier shit like this:
https://clyp.it/n02rxpxx
I started rapping as a way to relieve stress, not to make a statement.
>>61347142
>https://clyp.it/uj4r20qz
bump, I feel like this could be better I just can't tell how
>>61342823
>https://clyp.it/i20tts4e
this is pretty crazy dude
>>61348881
no love?
https://clyp.it/r0m1u4nd
how do i make drums
>mfw CV gates
holy shit the amount of things possible with CV gates is almost 2much2handle
>>61349403
would seduce a blonde slut with fake tits in a cheap 90s porn movie to/10
>>61349477
>mfw you expand those possibilities with a Beatstep pro
https://clyp.it/d342lnpj
I almost never finish songs
>>61349545
Actually, on topic of porn movies - how would one go about making that signature bass sound normally associated with porn music? You know, the mid heavy harpsichord-like one.
>>61349864
Clarinet with autowah
Maybe add some boost before the autowah
How to you make bass sound big and clean and hype? All of mine are quiet and small and don't take up a ton of space which makes my stuff sound super weak.
>>61350887
Fuck, I mean clavinet, autocorrect never likes my words
>>61351158
>>61350887
Thanks, brah!
>>61349854
What genre would you call this?
>>61349854
Gives me them happy feels. Cheers!
>>61348881
Dude it's tight as fuck. I'd have it in my library
This is old as fuck but I've been listening to some stuff to get inspired to make new stuff.
https://clyp.it/t5z0g1dp
>>61348881
Do you have more stuff? I don't care if you post your sc I wanna follow you
kek why does my waveform look like this?
>>61353759
that means your song is "new wave"
>>61353873
Nicé
I was given a Casio CT 460 for free, it sounds cheesy as fuck. What can I do with this thing to not make it sound like a toy?
>>61355450
I'm sure there are some sounds you could sample. DG used a few presets from a Casio (not the CT460) in a couple different tracks. It's all about being creative with what you have
In FL studio 11 is there a way to turn a bunch of selected notes into the type of chord you want without having to replace them all?
>>61355450
even the cheesiest samples can sound cool if they are put through the right effects.
i like to put a short single delay (feedback low so that i only get one or two delays) on and play against the rhythms of the delay.
try any old effect box you have layin around
Is this good?
https://clyp.it/2as30y2k
>>61355799
>https://clyp.it/2as30y2k
best thing i've heard tonight m80
>>61355904
Thank you!
>>61342043
trackers>sequencers
>>61343451
you can use it with whatever you want. it's not complicated with text screens so mapping it to anything will be easy
and looks like a perfect tool for beginning and simple sampling
>>61347515
rap about things you like. just be yourselfffff. If ur an ignorant honkey then you will sound like an ignorant honkey
>>61356066
>how I feel when using a tracker
Hey /prod/ people, I want to know what filters/effects were applied to the Giorgio Moroder sample in this song (Leopard Tree Dream)
Two friends and I have been working on this song off and on for the past few months. I still have to work on the transition between the two sections and I'm still working on some clarity stuff in the mix, but I think it's good enough to share and get some feedback. Thoughts?
https://clyp.it/qy12rrki
>>61356436
It's pretty good but you should lower the bass synth and turn up the kick
>>61351581
Thank you! Means a lot
>>61356178
how could i be so dumb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu8g3AuXvF4 this is the source of the sample
https://youtu.be/FBJghl_wmto?t=52s this is the song that samples and manipulates it
can anybody here identify what effects are used
>>61356161
>>61358553
>>61358553
i don't unterstand the Reason one
How realistic do these drums sound?
https://clyp.it/d2fpi3kq
>>61358640
>>61358553
>LMMS
>>61358812
>no daw
>>61358861
>mixcraft
>>61355450
Use the MIDI out to play whatever you like, then run it through a good virtual instrument. Once you have done this, you will have to do all the articulations manually, to ensure it sounds like the real thing and not MIDI/Casio CT460 cheesy.
That's what I did with this: https://clyp.it/n4dh5swe
Not final mix, but you will get the point.
>>61358553
>ableton : hipsters
>fl studio : faggots
>cubase : faggot hipsters
>renoise : tryhards
>audacity : losers
>logic : fat losers
>reason : me
>hardfags : idiots that smoke
yea looks about right
>>61358640
Reaper is god-tier, just sayin'.
I use Pro Tools 11 and Reaper, and I have used Ableton, Cubase Studio One and FL Studio before.
Pro Tools is forever behind the times, as well as being the least stable piece of software ever written. I use it mostly for paid projects where I am interfacing to and from PT11/12, so I don't have to fuck around as much.
The things you can do with Reaper... holy shit. That was made by people who know production. It feels like something a producer made for themselves. So much customisability, so many fluid workflow solutions. The price too. I feel like most people should be using it. It should become the industry standard.
>>61359096
you make a compelling case, I'll check it out anon
>>61359096
whenever I ask someone about Reaper they all say the same exact thing
"It has its limitations, but I know (some person) who has been able to make some incredible things" like it's weird how similar everyone's response is.
also I feel like Pro Tools and Logic are a lot better if you have mostly live instrumentation, for everything digital they're not ideal
>>61359096
>That was made by people who know production
Maybe that's why I changed to ableton.
>>61359169
tell me how right I am about this, I have minimal experience with pro tools and logic lol
>>61359169
People who say that probably don't have any production background
>>61359436
the guy who said it literally runs his own studio out of his house, he actually prefers to do stuff analog though lmfao. What exactly is he wrong about?
Ableton is obviously the best and makes me better than you fruity fags because its obviously so much harder than fl which is like garageband suck my dick boys
>>61359461
>the guy who said it literally runs his own studio out of his house
Whoa he sure sounds like a very knowledgeable dude! the madman has an ENTIRE STUDIO in his house!
>>61359461
Wasn't trying to sound like a dick (reading it back, I did).
What are these limitations? The only one I can think of, is not being able to run AAX, but only PT can anyway, so that's a moot point. I don't know of any other limitations at all. I work in a real studio (not my own), and have a good studio setup at home. I haven't found a weakness yet, but I would like to know what they are.
>>61359534
he actually knows what he's doing though. He rents it out to people and is also the only producer, he's been on several world tours as a supporting guitarist, he's not some random guy who just got a cracked FL studio and called himself a musician
>>61359551
nobody ever really specifies, they probably have never used it, they just see the price and think it's a joke
>>61359551
>What are these limitations?
Ableton in general is better at "electronic music" and at laying rough ideas/jamming and playing around with them
Much better/easier automation
Better sample editing/management
Session/Arrangement view is still God like
THE thing to use for live performances
so pleace refrain from making idiotics statements like "X DAW is da best b/c my friend says so". Every DAW has its strengths and weaknesses. Refraining from said idiotic statements saves us from having to re-type the above explanation
>>61359705
you fucking mong, he said it was the best he himself had ever used, and he gave specific reasons as to why. Are you literally autistic?
>>61359575
Oh yeah? Well my dad works at Nintendo and he can get you banned
>>61359730
no offense but I can't take anyone who uses FL seriously to be honest
>>61359705
I said that I found it to be able to do everything, and that it had more customisabitlity than any other DAW I had used. For me, it's the best. I still go back to PT all the time, but Reaper is certainly preferred. Also, seeing what you have just written, I can't take you seriously anymore. I never said my friend said anything. That was the other guy. I work with it and I find it fulfills everything in a way that is very pleasant. No bullshit. Customize the shit out of it.
This negative faggotry is how /prod/ threads die.
You are supposed to be helping each other
>>61361149
most people in /prod/ don't actually know anything, they just got a cracked fl studio and now think they're better than everyone. For a couple weeks they weren't posting that much, but unfortunately the threads were pretty much dead.
>>61361186
>uses cracked fl studio as an insult
maybe you're the one who knows nothing..
>>61361186
These are the fuckers who kill this thread
>>61361373
me or the people I was talking about?
>>61361382
You. Specifically.
>>61361405
nice
So i bought the Korg M1 synthesizer for my computer and I'm having tow problems with it.
I can't get my MIDI controller to play it. I know it's connected because my controller will work fine through my DAW.
Also I don't know how to get the M1 even into my DAW, if thats possible. it just downloaded as its own application that doesn't really have an options menu to maybe fix all of this
>>61359169
>also I feel like Pro Tools and Logic are a lot better if you have mostly live instrumentation, for everything digital they're not ideal
Although I've never used pro tools, from what I understand it's a high end production, tracking, arranging and mastering tool.
I've been using Logic for nearly 20 years now and you've only got to look at the (digital) instruments included to realise that in fact it's very much focuses on digital recording, it's almost like it was designed for making electronic music. (Pic Related)
I'm not sure why people like to express their incorrect knowledge on here, if you've never used something don't go giving people advice on what it's for or what is better than it.
>>61362278
thats a neat looking synth, i am especially interested in those different amplifier settings, and that thing right above the left of the adsr via velocity label
>>61362092
I have the wavestation, but I'm 99% sure that it's similar. To load it into your DAW you need to use the VST version of it, the version you are using is the standalone one. The download should have had a standalone version + a VST version.
>>61362400
>>61362278
Daily reminder that you can do all of this and more on Serum
https://clyp.it/hswrhcbc
very first tune
just picked up ableton tonight
how am i doing lads
hey /mu/ this is my current setup. Not pictured is a netbook running energyxt and a usb to midi interface
>>61362676
sexy
>>61362092
From the little info given, I would have to agree with>>61362448
If you don't have the vst/aax to load, it's not going to have anything to interface with.
>>61362278
I record, mix, master for a living and people still tell me their DAW is better than mine because blah, blah, blah. I've used a tonne of them, and I try not to give any shit, because in the end - if it works for you, who cares?
I use Pro Tools every day, and I think it's the only one I would give any shit to, simply because they aren't as fast to add features and it's as unstable as your parent's relationship.
From what I gather, most people are making electronic (mostly synth) music on here. Their tools are a very small part of a production kit. These guys seem to be the ones giving people shit, just because they learned someone once and now they apply all things to the one thing they learned.
THIS IS FOR EVERYONE: If your DAW works for you, rad. That's great. If someone's works for them, don't give them shit about it.
Is anyone here in need of any production knowledge/assistance?
>>61363376
Share mixing tips.
>>61363376
>production knowledge/assistance?
Yes
>>61362676
EBM/Industrial?
>>61359797
none taken. I can make $100 / finished minute of music in FL Studio.
Its all about the producer, not the tools.
>>61363792
>>61363869
Anything less obtuse?
>>61364016
>>61364261
I was trying to help people out. I suppose no one actually needs help making EDM/house/terrible rap in their bedrooms. They are all masters of their craft. Silly me.
>>61364261
kek'd
>>61362660
Daily reminder that logic is over 15 years old...and those synths have been there from the start. So congratulations on your "Serum" for catching up
What is the best reverb VST /prod/?
Do you guys read the entire manual of a DAW while getting to grips with it, or just consult it for areas where you weren't sure?
How long after using your DAW did you finally realise you were comfortable with it?
>>61363957
You too? We share the same rate and DAW.
I'm using v10 here, how about you?
>>61365619
I read manuals for DAWs and synths as soon as possible, sometimes before they arrive. It significantly makes my workflow easier when I start them up.
>>61365619
>just consult it for areas where you weren't sure?
this.
how long until I was comfortable? ~3 years
>>61364629
Well fuck you then!
Get the fuck out of here.
I tried remaking an old song of the indie era of my fav band by using my own VSTs instead of their original sucky ones. It became pretty lol, but it was first try.
https://clyp.it/ou20lyml
>>61365432
There is no best. It will always depend on what you need at the time. I have about 12 go-to's.
>>61365432
Valhalla vintage verb is my all out favourite
What's the most effective way of making samples sound dusty/airy/generally greyscale in Ableton?
Stuff that sounds like Actress or, dare I say, Macintosh Plus.
Is there a particular effect I'm blanking on here, or is it just tasteful use of EQ, distortion/erosion, compression, tube filtering, etc?
I know I could've just chosen dustier samples, but I'm trying to make the whole thing sound more cohesive
>>61366325
It's mostly EQ and distortion/saturation.
>>61366325
I used to have this tape (or maybe it was vinyl) saturation plugin that had noise, crackling, and warmth parameters. I think it was called like j_Ferox or something, I can't remember. It was pretty good. Try putting it on your master but don't overdo it.
>>61366898
I remember now. It was jb Ferox.
>>61366914
Sounds worth a try, thanks senpai
Anybody got some tips on making synthwave-esque drums? I'm having trouble filling out the high end and just making the drums interesting in general. I got the kick and snare to sound great but the pattern is just a kick on 1 and 3 and a snare on 2 and 4 so it's kinda boring.
>>61358748
Not very. What are you using? Just one hit samples?
>>61366914
anything similar that's 64 bit?
>>61367984
Avid Reel Tape Saturation, but it's not free. You might can find a torrent. I don't think any other ones give you a noise/crackle option, they all seem to be just saturation.
>>61367984
Doesn't your DAW have a 32/64 bit plugin bridge?
>>61367984
>>61368036
Wait, I found a company that remade/redesigned the jb Ferox but it's not free either, I don't think.
http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-ferox/
>>61365356
Daily props to Logic for being way ahead of the game!
>>61367458
bump
I'm just getting into production. Currently usingh the KRK Rokit 5, but plan on upgrading either to Rokit 10-3 or Adam A7x.
Any experience with those speakers? The low range extension is really important to me. How do both of these performn in the mid field?
>>61368686
>that tiny woofer
>"low range extension"
2bh
>>61368747
Which speakers are you talking about? Yeah, the RP5 has a tiny woofer. That's why I want to switch. How about not being condescending, but helpful instead?
>>61369032
oh misread your question
2bhwy pham it all comes down to what are you producing and what sound staging do you prefer. any store worth their salt would def let you test them both, and if you buy online you should be able to return
having said that, I have always heard the A7x's are much better that anything Rokit
>>61368686
I wouldn't go with either of those. They're hyped sounding and not really flat. Low end extension isn't really the most important thing anyway. Ported enclosures can produce bass, but the time domain response isn't good; if you're looking at frequency response only, you'll likely end up with something boomy and shitty sounding. And your room very likely has tons of uneven low frequency resonances. Focus on room treatments first. Any monitor with bass extension down to like 40-50 Hz is more than adequate.
>>61368747
>tiny
it's actually quite large
>>61369142
Yeah, room treatment is a good point. The main reason why I am interested in the RP10 is because they can be used as mid range monitors as I've heard, which I imagine is nice for recording with a couple of peole at the same time as opposed to near field, which only works for one person at a time.
>>61369207
I wouldn't worry so much about the nearfield vs. midfield distinction; it's kind of arbitrary and mainly implies that the RP10 doesn't sound that great up close.
There are some example recordings of different monitor setups here: https://www.youtube.com/user/SonicSenseProAudio/videos
Listen with good headphones and compare between what you're thinking of and the more expensive monitors (Genelec 8050 or whatever). I'd been looking at these earlier, I think the best sounding ones are the Yamaha HS8, KRK VXT8 and Presonus Sceptre S8. The Adams really don't sounding that accurate, even the pricey ones. I'd go with the Presonus.
Their selection isn't very comprehensive though; there's other promising stuff in that price range like the Sonodyne SRP800...
>>61343048
Thanks for the fb. I was thinking of adding something like that into the 2nd chorus to tie the song all together.
>>61349098
>https://clyp.it/uj4r20qz
How do I make it more clear? I've struggled with this for all mine songs and they never come out sounding as good as they possibly can. Do I just need to work on equalization or compression techniques?
