Is pic related a good way of de-plebbing myself?
no
just the cover itself gives away that the writer has shit taste
VU&N is fucking shit
>>61175249
You're the kind of guy that allowed the jews to kill Hitler.
>>61175249
While that album is indeed pretty horrid, there are a ton of great albums in that book.
Listen to Bach once and brag about on an anime forum til you fucking die
>>61175249
dont listen to this faggot. ive never read the book but i hear that its worth a read. Give it a shot.
thats proably worse than being a /mu/drone
>>61175302
>implying VU&N isnt post modern jew shit that promotes degeneracy
listen to more wagner
I don't think I've heard a 1000 albums in my life. Although I'm getting there. Library currently stands at 800.
>>61175217
It's a good starting point if you want to listen to music beyond what's coming out now. It's all fairly entry-level though.
So, TVU&Nico has now become horrid according to /mu/.
Time to leave this memehole.
Music? More like Mu-shit.
>>61175331
youre really telling me you dont like im waiting for my man...whats your deal man?
>>61175370
>>61175349
>VU&N
>good
pick one and only one
>>61175387
good
good thread so far
>>61175217
It's a good way to expand your knowledge
Better than listening to some Italian pedo
>>61175387
nigga dont like lou reed i cant...
>>61175249
I would read the book BECAUSE of the cover! TVU&N is a GREAT album, and I don't understand the hatred towards it.
>>61175317
Why is it "Horrid"? What's everybody's deal about this album? Geez, with the way everybody pans this album on /mu/ one would think it's 1967 all over again!
>>61175249
literally judging a book by its cover.
With 1001 albums on the list, there's bound to be a lot of good older stuff that you probably haven't heard yet, but would be considered essential.
I would also guess though, that once they get to the 2000s and later, they want you to listen to Coldplay and shit.
>>61175217
Had a flick through, some of the albums in there are really good, some are trash, you just have to work your way through them i guess.
isnt the nico bitch a racist or something
anyone got a download? Currently new and trying to discover shit myself.
Plebs don't listen to albums really mostly Pandora, radio or Spotify playlists so yea if you listened to 1001 albums you'd be pretty un-pleb
/mu/ doesn't like TVU&N anymore?? you guys have some terrible taste. probably p4k drones
Anyone remember the blog we ruined?
>>61179731
there you go familia
https://mega.nz/#F!3NFxDZqS!pEN-WNljOtI3NT_GSfRqXg
its everything off this
>>61179731
Here's the list. Has some good stuff, some meh stuff.
http://www.listology.com/ccaaaaam/list/1001-albums-you-must-hear-you-die
>>61175217
It's honestly pretty good. It does a great job on showcasing bands/albums that are great but often forgotten, instead of just shoving Le Beatles entire discography in there. The write-ups are pretty interesting too, as they describe the musical landscape at the time, and discuss why the album works, instead of just giving it blind praise (looking at you, Rolling Stone).
>>61175331
Nico you're drunk go home
>>61180893
just listen to these albums OP. If you get half way through this chart you'll still be more musically educated than most of the posters here.
>>61182824
Pretty much all those albums are edgy ones from the last 20 years, hardly "comprehensive"
>>61181587
I can't believe Adele is on the fucking list
>>61183139
oh no ! modern pop bad !
>>61175217
Not really, it's all big names. A fun read though.
What I dislike is the constant retconning, adding more and taking albums out.
maybe but I would start with some stuff you find that you like in there and then go search for more stuff like that
>>61175342
Pleb alert
>>61180797
Welp, I guess I'm officially an oldfag now.
>>61175317
I would love to hear you try to explain how TVU&N, one of the greatest albums of all time, is "horrid".
>>61183576
Why is it great? Influence isn't an indication of quality, so don't bring that up.
>>61183633
so in your mind the fact that the album is perhaps the most influential ever made doesn't mean anything? lol
do you have any idea how many great artists have cited TVU&N as a major influence? ever notice how really good musicians constantly cite bob dylan, the beatles and the velvet underground as major influences? do you think that's by chance? do you think it's just a coincidence that they don't cite kiss, acdc and the eagles instead?
>>61183959
No, it doesn't mean a damn thing about the quality of the music. Bob Dylan's my favorite artist of all time, the fact that he's so influential he may as well have created the modern singer-songwriter genre doesn't have a thing to do with it. The music has to speak for itself.
>>61183988
>VU's music not speaking for itself
lel
>>61184322
You have yet to answer the question. Can't even defend the album you boast about.
>>61175331
>listen to more wagner
Now, why'd you have to go and ruin your post like that?
>>61183633
>>61183988
>>61183633
answer the question
why is TVU&N "horrid"?
>>61183633
sorry, douchebag, but the onus is upon you
>>61180327
Pitchfork gave TVU&N a 10, wtf are you talking about
>>61184905
>>61184856
That was my first post in the thread, the question wasn't directed towards me in the first place.
And given that I, The Witchfinder hasn't been in any of my posts that should be obvious.
>>61183162
>modern pop
>good
>>61184965
i know you're not him, stupid
the onus is upon you. what you said is comparable to asking "why is michael jordan a great basketball player"? nobody should be expected to answer such an outrageously stupid question. if you don't think that michael jordan is a great basketball player then it's on you to explain why
>>61185244
There's no such thing as a stupid question. The onus is on anyone to defend there view - whether or not they think Michael Jordan is a great basketball is besides the point.
Answer the question.
>>61185325
>There's no such thing as a stupid question.
Jesus Christ, you are fucking retarded. How can there be no such thing as a stupid question. Here's a question:
>Why do people sit down when they're on the toilet to take a shit?
According to your logic that isn't a stupid question.
So, basically what I'm getting from this thread is that Velvet Underground fans blindly defend the band/their most famous album without ever actually explaining why.
>>61185430
He's right imo because you can easily answer a question like that, it's because you don't want shit to go everywhere. You're the one making the claim that it's good
>>61185492
>He's right imo because you can easily answer a question like that, it's because you don't want shit to go everywhere
Yes, the answer is incredibly obvious, that's what makes it a stupid question. What part of this is confusing for you?
>>61177382
It's bad. Like, really bad. The singing is horrid, the playing is sloppy and the music is uninteresting.
>>61183162
Modern pop is great. Adele is bland
>>61185430
Because generally speaking toilet designs make it impossible to shit in the more beneficial position, squatting.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2012/09/20/161501413/for-best-toilet-health-squat-or-sit
Answer the question. What's so obvious that makes TVU&N good.
if you don't think that tvu&n is one of the greatest albums or that the velvet underground is one of the greatest bands then fine, no problem. you probably have bad taste but that's ok
if you argue that they're shit then you clearly have zero understanding of music and it will be impossible to reason with you. your opinion on anything related to music should be discarded and that's exactly how it works in the real world
>>61185659
>Because generally speaking toilet designs make it impossible to shit in the more beneficial position, squatting.
Proving that the question was stupid. Which totally contradicts your argument that there is no such thing as a stupid question.
>>61185679
I think it's a fine album but I think it is rather overrated for what it is and it seems as though the people here are unable to validate why they think it's so good beyond it being influential
>>61185679
Not really.
>>61185679
I haven't said it's shit for the entirety of this discussion. I just want to know why its good.
>>61185703
I hope you realize I was critiquing the reason as to why people sit while shitting.
ITT:
>people asking over and over and over again why TVU&N is a great album
you guys know there is a webpage that describes it perfectly, right? it's from a critic that gets cited here quite frequently, i'm surprised you're not aware of it:
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol2/velvet.html
not understanding on your own why it's a great album shows that you're pretty stupid. what shows that you're flat out retarded is that you can't even use google to find a review that will explain it for you
>>61185869
>appeal to authority
I've been on /mu/ for three years now. Scaruffi is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, I'm asking YOU to explain what makes it good.
Venus in Furs is the only song with any replay value
>>61186150
>implying Heroin has no replay value
this thread is fucking priceless
hey, i have a great idea for a new thread guys:
try to prove why the doors, bob dylan, jefferson airplane and the beatles are shit
we'll all be really impressed by how unique and patrician you are
>>61186227
I haven't even been trying to say they're shit. All I've been doing is asking anons to say in their own words why they think TVU is good.
>>61186227
The Beatles are a great band
the rest are gay
>>61186227
I honestly don't think the doors are that good either
>>61186289
Just got here, would be glad to answer your question in detail if you answer mine first.
What is your opinion of the band and the album? Have you read that Scaruffi review that was linked? Do you think he's wrong? If so, where is he wrong?
I just want to establish that you're not trolling and that you're genuine before I type out paragraph after paragraph detailing how genius the band is and how TVU&N is the greatest album of all time. It seems like you might just be fucking around.
I would like to get a book like this for christmas. I would never buy this for myself, and I probably wouldn't care about most of the albums, but if someone put the thought into buying this for me I would be happy.
>>61186289
Because I like it.
>>61186425
I personally enjoy the band myself - I highly disagree with the idea of them being the best band of all time and TVU&N being the greatest album ever (White Light/White Heat is my personal favorite of their discography). I've listened to all of their "canon" (ie, non live archival) releases, hell, I even think Squeeze is slightly underrated. There's just been a tendency I've noticed on /mu/ to defend certain bands with a blind reverence ("if you don't like David Bowie you don't like music" is something I see constantly posted) and I'd like to see people make their own views more.
I've read Scaruffi's essay but it was quite a while ago and to be blunt it's not really what I'm looking for from this thread anyway.
Don't know if that makes me a troll or not, but I would like to see your thoughts.
>>61185917
Citing somebody else's argument isn't an appeal to authority.
>>61186616
>hell, I even think Squeeze is slightly underrated
even you are smart enough to know that you had to qualify "underrated"
>>61185917
>not understanding on your own why it's a great album shows that you're pretty stupid.
>>61175343
>It's all fairly entry-level though.
I hate how this meme became so engrossed in the groupthink here.
>>61186711
I don't see your point here. I don't think it's the awful album most VU fans think it is and therefore underrated. Not hard to grasp.
>>61186855
This thread is proof that /mu/ is perfectly content being a groupthink when it comes to certain albums/artists.
>>61180797
I remember
Based Liz, never forget
>>61185580
>Venus in Furs
>uninteresting
Vamos mi hombre
>>61187277
Well, except for that one.
>>61175302
> underrated mitzvot
>>61183550
What was the blog?
>>61187659
Don't remember the name or url. Some chick was running a blog where she listened to and reviewed all of the albums in the book. She was a "normie" and a lot of her complaints were that the music was either old or weird iirc and /mu/ lost its shit. She made it private after that.
>>61186227
Heroin has no replay value
>>61180893
Pretty solid looking list might have to make my way through it over summer.
Marked off the albums I've listened to, not as much as I would have though but then again I don't really listen to what people suggest on /mu/
>>61187878
Next time it's sunny out, go outside and listen to Since I Left You.
>>61187878
Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water, T. Rex's Electric Warrior, and Hendrix's Are You Experienced are some of the best classic rock albums ever. I'd suggest those next!
>>61189722
Listened to jimmy + simon and co greatest hits when I was a bit younger, probably why I haven't explored their albums as much as I should have.
>>61189358
Noted.
>>61184954
Actually along with every other album they did minus the one that barely counts
>>61180893
>tfw listened to Trout Mask Replica and didn't really like it
Will I forever be a pleb?
