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First for Minah.
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>>61035889
is twiceboy a trap
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twicefappers run this shit
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>>61035898
twiceboy is all girl
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yoona
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>>61035901
>twicefappers ruin this shit
word
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>>61035908
with a penis?
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>>61035922
no, a girl hole
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>>61035917
True. At least Lovelyzzz actually post music every now and again.
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omoooo
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https://youtu.be/oYuqGPhJjRQ
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I feel pretty comfy. I just cooked and now I'm eating some frozen berries~
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Reminder that Jiae is not a fuckslut
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>>61035965
berries you say?
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>>61035986
but i have fucked her
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>>61035956
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg
all over her face and glasses... dripping down...
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>>61035961
april's visual with gfriend's anti visual~
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>>61035992
Gowoon...
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where the fuck are catchy and chaeyeon?
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>>61036031
the dude knows where they are
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>>61036045
but that's me m8 and I don't know
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*chiki cha*
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>>61036054
why you look so smug like you know then?
little shit wipe that stupid sneaky smug off your face idiot
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>>61036031
chaeyeon is die
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>>61035961
great photo. great video. can't wait for my season's greetings to come in <3
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>you will never lay in bed with Seulgi and hold her close while the two of you listen to Indoor Swimming at the Space Station together
>you will never kiss her neck and tell her how much you love her
>she will never playfully squirm from the ticklish play on her neck and begin to playfully tickle/ wrestle with you
>you two will never roll around playing with each other until you come to a stop leaning over her as she lays on her back
>she will never run her hand through her hair as she shyly tries to find the words to express how much she care about you
>you will never let her know how much she means to you and that you love her
>the two of you will never make passionate love to the rest of the Copia album playing off in the background
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>>61036083
make me
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>>61036157
what a waste of money
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>>61036125
lol
I remember all that comments
>DIE DIA ONLY T-ARA
>HATE YOU DIA
>just fucking die
fucking queens
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>>61036179
supporting your girls/waifu is never a waste of money
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>>61036157
lmfao
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>>61036188
yeah, the fuck is wrong with them? Chinese ones, specially

it's not like they were the first senior group to support their label mates
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>>61036157
>shipping: $15.90
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>>61036160

But I already did that yesterday...
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>>61036207
supporting the Jew*
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ayeon looks so slutty
she should be in aoa instead of that uggo drummer they have now
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>>61036157
fucking disgusting
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>>61036160
seulgi...
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jei from fiestar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghbP2K-2w4M
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>>61036207
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>>61036217
they think that mbk will drop t-ara because of them
pretty retarded but they are just 12 years old chinks
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>>61036214
>>61036218
>>61036235
>>61036241
based retards freeloading off their waifus hard work.
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>buying an "official" calendar

i seriously hope you guys don't do that, that's some SEA fangirl level
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>>61036157
>$45 for a fucking calendar
NOPE
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>>61036279
>buying an "official" album
lol just download it from torrents haha
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>>61036257
no, Jei from EXID

FUCKING OMO THO
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>>61036207
baes
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based wageslaves
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https://twitter.com/loveFOODlyz

there's a twitter dedicated to comparing lovelyz to food

>>61036257
its hard to say since I can't see her whole face
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Gfriend comeback when?
OMG comeback when?
Twice comeback when?
Red Velvet comeback when?
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>>61036293
>not buying it for the booklet and poster
>not adding +1 to hanteo
>not truly supporting your waifu

It's like... you hate life
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>>61036274
But your waifu doesn't even know you exist
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>>61036313
Soonâ„¢
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>>61036313
>Gfriend comeback when?
February
>OMG comeback when?
January
>Twice comeback when?
February/March
>Red Velvet comeback when?
No idea how it works with them, could be January or could be May
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>>61036313
wasn't twice supposed to have a followup comeback or is that just a meme
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>>61036283
>>61036279
>not spending the year with your waifu
>not taking a part of your funds to thank her for all she does
>literally trying to starve her to death while you save hundreds of her photos

based retards
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>>61036257
fucking omo
what is this? where can I find more?
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>>61036347
Absolute retard. So? You do it for your waifu not for yourself.
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>>61036364
calendar or not, she'll starve to death
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>>61036358
I think so
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POP
POP
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>>61036283
>>61036347
fucking retards. supporting your waifu through thick and thin is the most important goal in this life.
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>>61036364
based /pol/bro
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>>61036358
>>61036380
innacurate translation from an article, it was "we're preparing for a new album", they didn't say it was for a follow up or a new one
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All those waifus will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die.
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>>61036313
I need The Velvet asap...
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>>61036391
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am-khSU01Pc
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>>61036393
Wording this. It's the least we can do.
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>>61036401
inaccurate*
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>>61036403
Hopefully this comeback is The Velvet
I need another automatic.
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reminder that if you don't own more than 1 copy of your waifu's albums you don't really love her
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>>61036393
that's an album though, that's the correct way of supporing her/them
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>>61036433
cringe
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>>61036364
chorong is so fucking pretty...
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>>61036440
throw yourself in the trash, retard
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>>61036364
>>61036393
I support my girls by buying their albums. That's it
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>>61036402
It's literally comical how Jessica tries to hide her lopsided jaw.
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>>61036433

Dude, my waifu is in snsd, she's fucking rich enough as is.
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>>61036439
the correct way of supporting her is through purchasing merchandise (including albums), promoting her work, and cheering her on.

only a retard thinks it's okay to reap all the benefits of her love with none of the sacrifice and hard work.
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>>61036373
it's premiering tomorrow http://tvcast.naver.com/dingostudios
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>>61036406
>big eared noona back up dancer
fuck shes everywhere
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>>61036433
I bought both of my waifus group albums
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>>61036463
I think you're going too far with this, we were having a good laugh and I feel you're being serious now
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>>61035889
i love this girl
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>>61036463
word
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>>61036463
who is that girl next to yuju, I like her now.
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>>61036463
I want to purchase yuju's knee band...
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>>61036464
is this show about lesbians?
If yes I would be happy because of all that fap material but also sad because of muh tolerance in my beloved korea
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>>61036485
>denying my devotion to my waifus

you're the joke here senpai
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>>61036516
your virginity is safe, anon
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so it occurred to me Taeyeon has gone solo with sappy post-rock
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>>61036516
>44 dollars for a calendar

stupid as fuck
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>>61036541
it's not post-rock, it's indian pop
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I have spent over $100 on Kpop in the last month
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>>61036464
>>61036257
is jei in some lesbian web drama?
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>>61036563
yeah
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>>61036551
it's not. it's going to be a great 2016 with my waifus.

>>61036557
WORD
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Reminder that Yeri is Jonghyuns.
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>>61036586
did you see jonghyuns new hair.
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I have spermed over 100 kpops in the last month
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>>61036594
Well done.
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>>61036594
Le rephrase sentence meme xDDDDD
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>>61036556
uplifting new age crescendocore
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>>61036486
oh FUCK me too
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>>61036594
omo...
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>tfw lovelyz will never perform getaway or farewell chapter 1 again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIAk4bXhcY
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>>61036586
Yeah, better than he's had in years.
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twiceboy predebut, such a natural cutie~
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babysoul performs naked, baffling the nation
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babysoul performs naked in my bed
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>>61036688
she was better before
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>>61036716
>in
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>>61036657
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIT

>mfw I just saw a piece of ooh ahh choreo in the getaway perf

OUR GIRLS
LITERAL TRENDSETTERS
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>>61036688
you don't have to pretend anon.

/kpg/ is a safe place.

it gets better.
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Post some Muah!s pls
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>>>61035034
What is her name?
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>>61036586
>>61036663
>can get anyone
>choose Yeri
Nope.
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>>61036758
yeri
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6utponLXbo4
I just want to watch my playgirlz again
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>>61036758
chaeyaebae, it's in the filename
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>>61036418
He doesn't have to know
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>>61036627
that's it, I've fallen for Twice. How can one boy be so comfy...
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>>61036741
She looks nothing like Sungjae though.
>>
yeri
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why is babysoul so short?
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I bet twiceboy is a real freak in the sheets
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>>61036758
Chaeyeon from DIA
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>>61036748
>tfw it really seems like Naeun was an iljin

Not a bad thing though
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>>61036818
dat Eunjin though

>Jenny neglected in the back
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>>61036748
are you excited for their winter album?
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>>61036785
twiceboy is such a cutie
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>>61036823
ijlin slut
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>>61036657
Now I see why they have so many uncle fans. Honestly, they better change it before they leave them next year for another group.
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>>61036823
I want to stuff it in there.
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>>61036862
that's not related
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>>61036843
yeah
her thighs are fucking cool
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i love lee mi joo
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>>61036823
*vomits*
>>
fuck i want to move to romania with irene right now
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>>61036785
comfyboy
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I'm going to make a webmeme that will blow everyone's mind

>>61036871
why? I always thought they'd have lots of female fans like apink
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>>61036886
fucking die of aids
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>>61036845
It's April, so a little. Can't say I want more christmas music though
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>>61036862
>>61036873
>>61036886
absolute fucking RETARDS
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>>61036913
better than looking at that uggo
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>>61036764
He's worked hard for a lot of years now. He can choose who he wants with no criticisms.
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>>61036823
>>61036913
>>61036924
she's really fucking ugly tho
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>>61036924
post that pic of her flipping the bird
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>>61036937
word
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>>61036207
omo is gfriend jojo fans?
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>>61036925
>>61036937
i'm gonna kill you faglord
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>>61036915
word. i ordered it to support our girls but more christmas music is eh.
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>>61036927
>choosing the worst RV
Jonghyun has taste, friend.
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yulhee and solbin at the same time
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>>61036883
Eunice is cute too, they should form a sub-unit
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>>61036912
Its around the same but I don't seeing them capturing the same audience because their a bit different and Apink fans will stick with Apink.
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>>61036987
dayum
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>>61036657
why wouldnt they perform it again?
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Which kpop is this?
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>>61037027
>Jenny
>Eunice
>Chaebaeyae
it would be called Clones

also cathy without make up looks like Chaeyeon lol
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>>61036987
drinking? smoking? asking for a loan?
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is it even possible for a korean woman to have an ass that's at least a little big?

Or hips that are a little bit wide?Or thighs that are a little bit thick?
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>>61037069
shagging
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>>61037027
omo

>>61037068
>eunice looking remotely like the other 2
dude... they just need to give Jenny a crazy color like silver
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>>61037083
Hyosung
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>>61037083
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>>61037083
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>>61036818
>Chaeyeon from DIA
Thanks!
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>>61037103
hwasa...
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>>61037083
Of course, it's just the diet that doesn't help to get them curvy
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>>61036801
retard
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I hate to post lewd pics of Ham, but she has huge legs too.
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>>61037083
>>61037101
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>>61037154
what are those things coming out of her legs?
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>>61037154
I know how you feel, but her body is so great!
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab9nwJjezpg

gonna listen to this in an endless loop...
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Post seulgi man, god damn it
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>>61037201
based
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>>61037048
I wish I could see inside the mind of the average female kpop fan, they seem really picky when it comes to liking girl groups

>>61037062
it's not a title track so I don't think they'll perform it if they have the option to perform other title tracks
their mini concert was a good chance to perform it but it didn't happen so I've lost all hope
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>>61037226
okay
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what kslut should i blast off to today hm....
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>>61037273
lierene
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>>61037259
Shes almost too pretty
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>>61037201
gonna blast it furiously to this
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>>61037273
>>
>4 days to t-ara concert
hyped af
cant wait to watch some cqts in audience before beginning
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>>61037283
>>61037293
most boring possible idols...
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>>61037273
>>61037283
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Can you guys post a picture of irene, maybe one that will help me fap
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>>61037273
one of those groups
or stellar or AOA
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>>61037298
last time wasn't that great though
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>>61037316
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>>61037330
why?
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>>61037308
Man, trim that festival crap out
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>>61037291
why you gotta make everything lewd?
just appreciate her angelic voice for once...
>>
>>61037332
but this isnt lewd :(
>>
gonna go to bed, maybe I'll have a dream of twiceboy~
>>
>>61037242
The pure too cute concept doesn't really work for them because its boring. 4minute has a lot of female fans because they are confident and SNSD have the girl to ideal woman and they've been around for a long time.
>>
imagine
85 inch 4k tv
google fiber
50TB hard drove
all that kpop
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>>61037368
gay
>>
>>61037335
I don't remember any qts
>>
i should cum to a twice...
>>
>>61037374
kpop rips every kpop video and live show by year

2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
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>>61037387
that's not my fault
I was watching it since 19 KST and there was a lot of them
at least 5
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>>61037394
That's all they are good for now. Hopefully their next mini is better.
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>>61037339
word
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>>61037304
>boring
I bet you do it to pedobait shit like april
you cunt
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ooh ahh ooh ahh

900 million hours in MS Paint
>>
Why is irene so irresistably cute?
>>
>>61037501
lmao jiae
she is just too precious
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Irene is cute
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crutches crosses caskets
all i see is victims
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I r e n e
r
e
n
e

to
be
honest
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>>61037550
what's with this giving kpops weapons trend?
is korea gonna become a second america? they already wanna be white anyway
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Irene cuterene
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word Irene is p cute
no wait Irene's p is cute
no wait idk I'm confused now...
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>>61037580
gun nerds
idk
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>>61037580
I feel it's exactly for idols to pose with them and look cool
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omo kei...

>>61037524
there's a compilation vid of jiae making choreo mistakes but I lost the link
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>>61037273
pyo
rong
arin
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>>61037668
ALL
OFF
LIMITS
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i'm blasting to jimin, you nerds
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why is there so much sexual tension between yooa and jiho?
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>>61037690
based!
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>>61037690
Okay.
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today I was thinking about the existence of demons
I wonder if there are any idols possessed by demons, or maybe idols who can control or communicate with demons

I wonder if I'm possessed too
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>>61037728
>>61037733
baka FAGS
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where my foo foo minjas get off
can you handle the cohorot sweg
https://youtu.be/RAccpT1zYxs
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>>61037737
you're possessed by a retard demon
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>>61037752
lmao
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>>61037738
Better than AOA Jimin. Should have gone with Choa.
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>>61037752
why are you possessing me
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>>61037773
no homo but word
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is Irene really always completely lost clueless and scared, or is it just her face looks like that?
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A sister brought her younger high school brother on to the show because she was worried about how much he's changed since getting into Girlfriend. He started skipping school to follow their schedules and bought 70 copies of their album to display in his room. He also keeps a photo of Yerin framed and treats it like a shrine. Yerin made a surprise appearance to greet him

1. [+373, -24] He'll realize how pathetic and embarrassing he is in a few years. He goes to school only five times a month...? I doubt he'll even get into a college anymore.

2. [+239, -13] Sad guy... It's not like she's going to remember him. Go back to school and study hard. I, too, had a time when I was super into idol groups but after I grew up and woke up, I felt so pathetic about myself.

[+141, -9] Kids like him are so pathetic... you only live once and it's the most important time of your life and you're spending it like that? ㅜ Imagine how pathetic his family thinks he is

[+91, -19] Just leave him alone, he'll reap what he sows ã…‹ It's not like he's the only hopeless stupid fanboy in our country

[+34, -1] If I were Yerin, I'd be scared. He's like a stalker, how's he any different? She's only sitting there smiling at him because she needs a paycheck at the end of the day.

[+24, -0] I bet he bought those 70 copies with his parent's money too sigh, the fan culture of our teens doesn't seem right

[+28, -3] I wonder why he even bothered coming out on TV he's pretty much destined to be single for the rest of his life ã…Žã…Ž congratulations

[+27, -3] But isn't it boring following them around all the time? He's probably already heard the same song and dance dozens of times already

[+26, -3] His nuna is prettier than Gfriend

[+19, -2] You're destined to be single forever

[+12, -1] His parents are partially to blame as well. Clearly they're giving him too much allowance money if he can blow it on buying 70 copies of the same album. Girlfriend only has two album releases too

our mediaplay sluts
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>>61037318
tfw no one posts overstep, they're not a fap group but they cover sexy songs from time to time

https://youtu.be/qjykRpyiEdw
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>>61037822
she's shy and scared of various things including loud noises
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>>61037829
fucking rekt in the comments, bet he also bought the calendar lol

>His nuna is prettier than Gfriend
based blind retard
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>>61037737
Don't you know what the illuminati is?
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>>61037854
she's always looking at the ground, and always seems unsure what to do/where to go, and looks ready to run away in panic at the slightest reason etc
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omo choa solo album on the 17th!
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I'm in love
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>>61037829
based fucking gfriend fan supporting his waifus.i bet yerin appreciates his support
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>>61037829
i was once as bad as this guy, but i'm so fucking glad i didn't have disposable income when i was at the peak of my kpop obsession.
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>>61037956
she's so FUCKING beautiful...
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>>61037964
*drinking up his support
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>>61037966
ive blown 2k on red velvet so far
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>>61037966
with which group?
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>>61037956
my wife
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I would let JB dominate me
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my only regret is that i don't have more to spend on my waifu.
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>>61037981
>>
>>61037998
soshi
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>>61038000
She's mine
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>>61038009
is there a better looking boy band than got7 at the moment?
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>>61037752
I think I might be possessed be a lovelyz demon and a lewdness demon

>>61037920
yeah but I thought that was more about mind control than demons
>>
>>61038009
Please do not post anything lewd about JB.
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>>61037996
wow
they deserve it tho
>>
>>61038048
wrong, see filename
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>>61038053
I don't think so
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>>61037883
alright you fucker i'm getting real tired of your shit.

just because i bought a calendar to make sure my greatest love in this world isn't starving on the streets doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with that.

the thing that's wrong is that we're judging people for continuing to support these girls so you can freeload off them
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>>61038056
It's all that and more, kpop is extremely illuminati, if you're not going to stop indulging in kpop, at least be aware that it's filled with satanic subliminal messages.
>>
>>61038023
>>61038048
>>61038077
she's truly the highest tier...
>>
>>61038053
>>61038079
>people praising Twice's visuals like crazy
>nothing for Got7
Inb4 Twice only has visuals and nothing else.
>>
>>61038077
be careful bro, thats how she lures in all her victims. By acting cute and sweet. Dont come crying to us when you wake up all bloody and bruised in a ditch and jisoo is pregnant.
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>>61038091
you're going to regret buying it, trust me
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>>61038068
>>
>>61038091
>When memeing goes too far
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>>61038115
i've never regret any purchase i've made kpop related.
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>>61037103
>>61037107
>>61037126
holy schnikes
>>
>>61038113
>when you wake up all bloody and bruised in a ditch and jisoo is pregnant.
omoooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>
>>61038112
got7 can sorta sing, what do twice have? besides goddes Nayeon
>>
>>61038113
>when you wake up all bloody and bruised in a ditch and jisoo is pregnant

fuuggggggggggggggg omo
>>
>>61038077
>>61038113

my succubusfu
please beat me up
>>
>>61038113
>when you wake up all bloody and bruised in a ditch and jisoo is pregnant.
gonna do something to this
>>
Why don't we talk about music or TV programs anymore
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>>61038113
brb
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>>61038094
she is
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>>61038137
>sorta sing
>gods JB and Youngjae
But Got7 as a whole is pretty talented minus Babam, but he's the token fool who is good with fans and Got6 or Mix6 sounds bad.
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>>61038159
because nothing worth while has came out recently
>>
>>61038168
holy crap how can something so beautiful even exist
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>>61038175
but lovelyz just had a comeback
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>>61036927
best 2
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>>61038159
there is not much going on lately actually, I think reply 1988 is the most remarkable thing and psy is the one in music
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>>61038194
i said nothing worth while
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>>61038117
JB is still pure though.
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>>61038174
True, but compared to other boy groups their vocals are pretty average. They're still good tho, and Bambam is a treasure.

Now Twice, on the other hand...
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>>61038194
I give them props. They really suprised me. I didn't think it was possible to make a comeback more boring than Ah Choo but they proved me wrong.
>>
>>61038217
How can he remain pure when he's living with Junior
>>
>>61038230
>Now Twice, on the other hand...
one of the best groups in recent years

>they're still good
>can't sing well the high notes in Just Right
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>>61038216
>>61038244
retarded kfapping twice losers
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>>61038185
God has blessed us all
>>
*chiki cha*
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>>61038270
Twice can't sing for shit
>>
>leave for 2 hours
>still this thread
>>
>>61038274
>>61038275
I'm not a kfapper. And Lovelyz is mich better than Twice talent wise. They are boring though. Twice's concept is not.
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>>61038291
with a little help from his avatar, Dr. Kim
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>>61038333
jisoo is natty
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>>61038092
I haven't noticed anything really obvious since ladies code

which groups would you say use a lot of illuminati imagery?
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>>61038296
where'd this meme come from?
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>>61038328
I respect your subjective opinion but ooh ahh is fucking terrible
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>>61038315
they can, watch any performance from the last week of promotions, everything was on point

can't believe people still keep repeating the meme that they can't sing. Momo can't, that's for sure though
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>>61038345
*chiki cha*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_QjEIyxCQ
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>>61038345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_QjEIyxCQ
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>>61038362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xWAlS-X5GE

sure they can
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>>61038230
True. JB, Junior, and Youngjae can't save Jackson's singing but at least he can dance.

>>61038270
>best groups in recent years
Forgot "visual" between best and groups.
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>>61038343
one of my first webms, and from the first batch of webms in here, still too big in dimensions

I miss the grills...
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>>61038386
sounds great, considering the limitations of MR removed

was this your first mr removed video?
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>>61038351
Pretty objective though. Ohh Ahh at least when they perform it, they aren't always wearing uniforms and have a fun dance. Though Lovelyz is more insync.
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>>61038386
>mr removed
>2015
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I love it when girls wear skirts and sit down
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>>61038434
I didn't know twicefappers were this delusional
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>>61038473
you're not even trying, you're a disgrace trying to talk shit about a group
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>>61038452
Watch the actual performance then, it'sjust as bad
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>>61038504
I don't even have to try to prove Twice can't sing because the facts are Twice can't sing
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>>61038536
wow, what a great argument

don't you have a calendar coming in the mail?
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>>61038343
I'm not b8ing or trolling when I say that pretty much all of them use illuminati imagery, intentional or not.
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>>61038549
It's okay. You're allowed to like groups that can't sing. At least they have good stage presence and are nice to look at.
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>>61038434
Jihyo, Sana, and Jungyeon are their best singers but JYP girl groups can't sing live.
>>
>waiting for a new thread

you fags, MINX is coming btw
>>
>>61038573
Nayeon is good and Chaeyoung is a good rapper... I think, I don't remember much from her voice
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>>61038562
I'm going to rewatch some mvs and pay closer attention
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>>61038676
>>
is there a show on right now?
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Jimin is what I see anytime I come across the term "semen demon"

she just seems like such an unbelievably lewd being; one who not only craves the omojuice because she's a sexfiend, but because she also literally NEEDS it for sustenance - she dies if she goes for too long without it
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