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Previous Thread >>13327961
>List of subbed series:
https://kamenriderguide.weebly.com (with summaries)
http://tokusubs.wikia.com/wiki/Tokusubs_Wiki
>Download Links
http://pastebin.com/fUe6FWXc
>ETC Links
http://pastebin.com/4M0bNQPT
>IRC
#krg @ rizon
>To discuss the mobile game Kamen Rider Storm Heroes, look for /krsh/

Machine Chaser will gain the Rhino Super Viral Core to become Horned Machine Chaser
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Just reposting from the old thread.

I don't know if anyone cares but I made a list of toku actors appearing jdramas this season. I usually check out who's appearing each season and figured I'd share the information with anyone here who might care.

http://pastebin.com/gwUvYYJ5

It's incomplete right now, as I'm busy with some other stuff, but I thought I'd share what I've done. If I've missed anyone in the shows mentioned let me know. Also for anyone who watches Garo, let me know if I got Asana Mamoru's character's name right.
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>>13331701
Looks like a gold blob from this angle.
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>>13331725
That's neat. You're a cool guy typing it up.
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So Chaser's spinoff-exclusive form is just his base form with some shit duct-taped to his head?

I'm fine with that.
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>>13331736
Is there a picture of it?
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>>13331298
The hoodies still have unique helmets. Yeah, they're cheaper and that's why we're getting so many forms for the main Rider.

The boost form variations also don't see any cheaper than Gaim's arm changes, since their hoods seem to have more solid pats.
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Based Chimerabro saving everyone from white wizard's faggotry.
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>>13331745
No but the name is "Horned Machine Chaser" so it's safe to assume it's just Machine Chaser with a horn.
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chaser is as close as we could get to a cool villain in bike like go badaa ba, right?
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>>13331787
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>>13331787
That's much more impressive than the bumbling transformation from last ep.
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>>13331787
Is Takeru a magical girl?
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>>13331790

I want to like ghost's base form but every time I see it from the side I remember that the face isn't concave and it's actually a fucking plate on top of his normal face.
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>>13331787
Why do you call it stock footage when this is the first time we've even seen that? The Musashi mode switch didn't look anything like episode 1's either
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>>13331790
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>>13331796
Because it can be used as stock footage in the future.
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>>13331787

I'm just realizing I can't think of any heisei rider shows that had stock footage transformation sequences like that.

I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing for ghost, since presumably it'll cut down on costs a good bit which can hopefully go back into the rest of the show.
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Ghost will be the season with the worst fights and most underused forms
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>>13331795
What's the issue there?
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>>13331677
Figinstock you fool. He'll be up for preorder again countless times between now and release, hell he was just up on HobbySearch two days ago.
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If all the transformation sequences are all stock footage, I personally cannot wait for Power Rider Ghost and its protagonist, Timothy Tennyson.
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>>13331792
Why y-yes he is. So twinky!
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Do you guys think Kamen Riders exist?

Like do you think there are people in this world, with such character and a sense of justice, they are worthy of becoming a Kamen Rider? Do you think there are people in this thread worthy of being a Rider?
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>>13331850
Can perverts become riders?
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>>13331851
Well I mean if Masato Kusaka can be a Rider then really anyone can.
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>>13331850
Are you telling me the shows aren't documentaries?
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>>13331850
How quickly we forget.
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>>13331854
>Yurusen chilling with her other puppet friends
How cute
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>>13331808
Kiva had stock footage mode changes.
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Newfag here. I'm about to start watching Den-O but holy fuck the first episode is awful. Does it get better?
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Do you think the konami/bandai exclusive sounds will actually be used in ghost?
They didn't make too much sense in drive, even though hearing SHOWA RAIDA KUUGA was nice.
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>>13331868

Nah, if you don't like that style it never gets better.
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>>13331861
See everyone? this is what happens when you don't properly diaper up your waifu.
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>>13331868

The explain the time-travel premise better as the show goes on, but if you don't like Ryotaro and Imagin shenanigans like how they set up in the first episode, chances are you won't enjoy the rest of the series to get to that point.
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>>13331868
I think it gets better as more Imagin show up.
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>>13331870
>>13331882
>>13331889
I liked W, Gaim and Drive. Any series similar to them? I heard Wizard is the worst one so I'm avoiding it.
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>>13331894
Watch Agito.
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>>13331861
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>>13331894
>Any series similar to them?
OOO and Fourze. There's also Ryuki.
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Takeru's manner of speech and voice reminded me of that cowardly yet cute Ryotaro and I like his fashion sense. Looks comfy and hobo-like like Eiji.
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>>13331905

This is a good recommendation

Also check out Kuuga, Agito and Blade if you want to give early Heisei series a try.
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>>13331894
Kuuga and Agito have a similar theme with W and Drive in terms of police involved-ness, though if you compare the atmosphere of the show it's like a whole level of different. Gaim's closest would be Ryuki.
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>>13331905
>>13331941
>>13331896
Watching OOO right now. First episode is nice. I'll watch Kuuga and Agito next. Thanks. Ryuki didn't click enough for me for some reason.
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this can't be true, right?
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>>13331946
Why does he look like such a tumblr faggot?
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>>13331851
Of course
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>>13331946
I didn't know Onta was drawing the Kamen Rider Kuuga manga.
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>>13331945
Blade has a similar set up with it's Riders if you liked Drive
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>>13331946
From Kamen Rider to Ghost Rider
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>>13331968
No it doesn't. Blade's riders are constantly fighting and just don't stop. at least thirty four episodes in
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>>13331986
Kenzaki, Tachibana and Hajime bro it up eventually. Mutsuki is just a fucking faggot for most of the series
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>>13331797
How is Takeru a complete faggot and then suddenly becomes a hard boiled thug life shooter
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>>13331850
Ok, Have you guys ever met someone in real life who you thought, "That guy could be a Kamen Rider."
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>>13331797
I've seen better electric finishers
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>>13331996
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>>13331797
So it is like Den-o where every form's weapon is the same weapon rearranged?
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>>13332015
Yeah.
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>>13331998
When Edison receives electric stimulation it lets him get inspired to finding ways to overcome a crisis and come up with new tactics. Musashi was the same with the topknot knowing Musashi's art of war: "The Book of Five Rings" and it can proposes appropriate tactics for any situation.

>>13332015
Yep. And it can also combine with his gadgets.
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>there's a red, sword wielding form
>the main one is orange
What, is this from Opposite Japan?
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>>13332028
Now that I think about it, he has yet to use the Naginata form
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>>13332021
>edison
>coming up with anything

:^)
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What episode is Specter?
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>>13332036
He was inspired to make money :^)
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>>13332041
He already appeared in magazine, didn't he?
Probably episode 4.
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>>13332041
I heard his Vinyl is going to release soon, since Ghost has to get Newton after Robin I'd say episode 5-7. With maybe a cameo in 4.
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>>13332021
He already has a gun, why does he need a crossbow?
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>>13332049
It comes out the 17th.
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What's the entire point of Kiva if 1981 kiva magically takes control and helps 2008 do anything he can't?
It's like all i watched until now does not mean anything
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>>13332053
He already has a gun. Why does he need two more?
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>>13332063
It only happens once.
They never explain why it happened.
They never mention it again.

It was just to hint that Otoya eventually starts getting more involved with Fangires.
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>>13332063
Are you talking about the possession episode arc? Thats mostly a gag and development for Megumi rather than Wataru that is never even explained.
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>>13332063
It's post-Agito Toshiki Inoue without any editors, almost nothing he does makes any sense now.
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>>13332071
It also pretty much gave away that Otoya became Dark Kiva 20 episodes before Dark Kiva even appeared.
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>>13332074
Inoue made just as little sense before then. Just less so as head writer
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>>13332069
He's using Robin's soul. Robin Hood didn't know how to use a gun and would be much better with a bow of some sort.
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>>13331701

>Rhino Viral Core
Two things;

1) It better not stay gold
2) There better be a Rhino Roimude
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>>13331824
No anon, it's gonna be Daniel Fenton.
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>>13332117

Kamen Rider Ghost vs. Danny Phantom, who wins?
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Did anyone pay attention to this? It seems they keep up with the calendar in real time.

Since 99 days are about 14 weeks, the 99 days will probably end at episode 15. It also means they might keep going at one eyecon every episode for now. What happens after that is still a mystery.
I assume episode 15 will be the climax of the first arc, which is right before Specter will presumably appear.
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>>13332161

I assume that Specter will appear earlier than 15.
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>>13332161
I'd assume it might go a little past episode 15, since they'd likely want a multi-story episode for that climax.
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>>13332161
Specter has his debut this month. But it'll probably end around the debut of Necrom.
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>>13332161

I'm assuming the whole 99 days thing will either lead up to the midseason upgrade or get pushed aside for some other serious shit going down
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>>13332171
I admittedly haven't been keeping up with spoilers as much. Will Necrom be a third Rider? Do we have a confirmation on how many Riders will appear?
Specter appearing this month is really fast tbh
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>>13332161
Maybe we might get the Boost form by that time, although then again, don't mid-season upgrades usually appear in the mid 20's?
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>>13332177
>I'm assuming the whole 99 days thing will either lead up to the midseason upgrade

Considering the rate it's going, it'll likely be connected to Boost, not one of the later upgrades.
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>>13332184
>although then again, don't mid-season upgrades usually appear in the mid 20's?
There are two forms connected to Boost, so it has to appear early.
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>>13332180
So far it's Ghost, Specter and Necrom. Ghost gets his first upgrade Boost before Necrom which would line up with the climax of the 99 days plot.
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>>13332190
Goemon and Ryoma, right?
Seeing as those two use Boost as a base, it appearing early is a possibility.
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>>13332184
FangJoker also appeared around episode 15 in W

>>13332197
Hmm, makes sense
I wonder if he'll actually be revived or just get an extension. Seems a bit too soon to end that storyline, when it's the entire set-up of the show
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I don't know why people were saying it's too early for Ghost to get a new form. Drive got two before episode 10.
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>>13332214
Power-up and form-changes aren't really the same. Just different purposes.
Drive's first power-up was Dead Heat.
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Is Kamen Rider Fourze a good starting point?

I'm on Episode 9.
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>>13332204
>when it's the entire set-up of the show
Not necessarily. The show was only described that way because that will be the major plot for at least the first cour. Another toku show, Gransazer, has had different plots for each cour of the show. Besides as a drama writer the writer is probably more comfortable in telling a story in a single cour so he might try and give Ghost multiple story arcs
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>>13332217
Yes.
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>>13332217
What does it matter? You're already on episode nine
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>>13332214
>>13332215
Flame Dragon still came out in episode 9, I'd agree it was too early if Wizard didn't have so many styles, same as Ghost
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>>13332229
I just wanted to here your thoughts is all.
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>>13332225
Did anyone here watch anything the writer worked on before?

>>13332217
It was my first as well. As long as you're enjoying it and get interested in watching more, anything could be a good starting point imo
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>>13332237
On whether it's a good series to start with? I don't see how that matters. Don't worry too much on what others think
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>>13332249
His work for Ghost Trick is fucking amazing
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>>13332237
>Gransazer
Any the Neo New Nuevo Heisei (the ones that have been airing since 2010) series are reasonably similar to each other so yeah, it's a good starting point.
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>>13332263
And I don't know how that Gransazer quote got there.
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>>13332249
I saw his Max episodes. They were decent.
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>>13331998

It's implied that every time Takeru uses a form that isn't his own, that soul's knowledge of whatever the person specialized in is temporarily transferred to him. I think what'll happen is that as he uses new forms and learns their abilities, his basic fighting skills in Ore will improve.
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>>13331701
Drive OST 2 when? I want my Chaser themes
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>>13331996

Kenzaki just wants to bro it up with everyone.

Tachibana bros it up with Kenzaki after he kills Isaka and stops being a brainwashed idiot.

Hajime tries his damnedest to be hardcore but Kenzaki won't let him and bros it up with him anyways. It takes Tachibana a LONG time to come around to him though.

Mutsuki a shit. Tachibana tries to mentor him but it doesn't work because, to reiterate, Mutsuki a shit, and doesn't stop being shit until close to the finale, after two awesome bro-tier Undead sacrifice themselves for him.
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Why did Amazon get cancelled early? It's my favorite of the Showa series so far. A half naked man turning into a chameleon and gnawing off limbs from a monster and then beating them to death with said limbs. You don't get much better than that.
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>>13331998
I'm assuming you haven't seen Kiva
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>>13332328

Amazon was one of the first Rider series I watched and I love it too. I think Stronger is my favorite Showa series though.
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>>13332328
Because it features a half-naked man turning into a chameleon and gnawing off limbs from a monster and then beating them to death with said limbs.
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>>13332334
That sounds metal as hell.

How did this not succeed?
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>>13332328

I'm pretty sure it had to do with the fact that it was like the Brutal DOOM of KR.
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>>13332307
Who knows if it's even getting released. The only new CD listings are for Ghost's OP.
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>>13332337
It didn't succeed because Kamen Rider is a kids show and mothers got pretty concerned about the violence level
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>>13332334
You know you're brutal when even Japan is willing to cancel your shit. Abaranger had a scene where the Red taught a suicidal dude how to tie a noose and nobody batted an eyelash.
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>>13332341
I don't think that they won't release it, the question is more whether it'll be soon or not
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>>13332328

It was basically taking over the remaining episodes that they had in X's timeslot. Because it wasn't very successful, it didn't get an extension.

Remember, at the time, they thought they still could produce new hit toku series, so they didn't really need to stick with established franchises if they weren't performing excellently.
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>>13332348
Abaranger also featured an incredibly gory death scene for a character towards the end Mikoto ; ;
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>>13332337
Apparently moms don't want their kids to see lizardmen eviscerate things.

Wonder why.
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>>13332033
>two episodes
>WHY HASN'T HE USED ALL THE VARIATIONS IN HIS TOYS YET!
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What would you say is the best number of riders for a show to have?
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>>13332393
Two
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Hello!
Arrow!
To the Forest, we'll go!
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>>13332393
Four
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>>13332393

Two if they're written well and both allowed to shine. One if they're not since you're just wasting your time on the secondary otherwise.

Three is good times too since it allows just enough in-fighting without it overtaking the show like in Gaim for example.
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Possible guest actor for Ghost movie
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>>13332393

It really depends on what you're going for with the toys.
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>>13332406
and
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>>13332406
And who is he?
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Who did the monster designs for Drive, was it Terada? I remember him doing work on W and Heart and Brain remind me a bit of that stuff.
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>>13332411

when did tachibana show up on fourze?
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I want to start watching showa and decided to start with kuuga.
What subs do you recommend?
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>>13332417
The SIC guys
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>>13332417
It was Takayuki Takeya.
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>>13332375
Because they all must secretly be reptiloids and know that we're onto them. The truth is out there Scully.
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>>13332421
>I want to start watching showa and decided to start with kuuga.
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>>13332420

Onore dickado
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>>13332420
Net Movie.

Although Tachibana was technically a main villain on the show too.
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>>13332425
>>13332423
Thanks.
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>>13332420

He's the principal.

Garren shows up in the Net Movies.
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>>13332420

between libra and pic related there was probably a tachibana in like literally every episode
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>>13332421
>Showa
>Kuuga

One or the other, anon.
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>>13332421
>kuuga
>Showa
Kuuga is Heisei bro.
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>>13332393
A lot. I like the character/ideological conflict that multi-Rider shows bring up the table.
If you are going to stick to one/two and MOTW shit, at least try to humanize and flesh up your kaijin.
Those are my preferences, anyway.
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>>13332393

Three or four.

If you only have two, then those two had better be really fucking well developed.

More than four and it's tough to give the characters effective development, Gaim for example has more Riders than it knows what to do with.
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>>13332393
I want 13 like Ryuuki or 32 like Hibiki

No MoTW or anything just plain rider on rider
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>>13332459

>Rider on Rider
I'd be very happy with this.
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>>13332459
Micchy you absolute madman.
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>>13332459

Does it cost less for them to make like 15 rider suits (with multiples of each for various needs) or 2 rider suits (with multiples) and ~30 monster suits (some having multiples for bigger names like the main antagonists)?
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>>13332466
Look at it like this. Kamen Rider Abyss was put together on a monster suit budget.
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>>13332462

>better cereal gets the better rider

as it should be.

Make Wizard Franken-Berry for the trifecta.
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>>13332452
Gaim has four main riders and a bunch of jobbers.
Even then, the focus on the main four gets pretty uneven at times.
Still love the show, though.
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>>13332393
Three or four. Kuuga did good with one, and Den-O/W did fine with just two, but I'm glad we get three or more most of the time.

Two Rider shows are just harder to carry which is why they rarely do them.
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>>13332478

I didn't make these pics though. And how does Wizard fit with Franken Berry?
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>>13332307
Chances are they're stock music.
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>>13332459
Hibiki only had 10 appearing in the actual show and even then only five (out of which one only got a short arc and another retired) were actually relevant
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>>13332482

Yeah I was more talking about how Oren and Joey, and then the other Yggdrasil Riders don't get a lot of development. For some of them it doesn't matter (Hase and Sid get killed off pretty early on), but for the ones left it's really obvious where they drop the ball.
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>>13332483
>Kuuga did good with one
You say that like Kuuga was the only show ith one rider.
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>>13332496
They had like 3 different versions of the same track though, it doesn't seem like it was stock. There's also other tracks as well, like the Type Tridoron and Formula themes
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>>13332499
>Sid killed pretty early
What?
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>>13332462

anybody got a high quality image of a random yummy mook from OOO? I got ideas.
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>>13332535
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>>13332567
Uh-huh, I've just remembered there were two types of mooks, the pre-MOTW type and the grunt fodder type, they're like the Ganma that way funnily enough.
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What kind of things you guys like to see in the opening of the Rider shows?
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>>13332618
Fedora tipping.
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>>13332618
Boobs
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>>13332618
Boobs
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>>13332618
Female leads looking sad while sitting near windowsills

KR doesn't have that
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>>13332618
A man chewing on balls before getting chased by a sexy lady. I miss Drive.
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>>13332618
Space otaku succubus.
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http://strawpoll.me/5709140
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>>13332618

Gore
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>>13332618

main character doing non-rider things

even something as simple as takeru just kinda flying around in the sky while hanging out with the hoodies is good enough. that's probably the only part of the OP I like and I'm gonna be upset if it gets cut for the usual "we gotta shoehorn in the secondary" parts come his introduction.
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>>13332641
Me too
>We'll have best arc in 1080 soon
Feels good
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>>13332668

I hate how I can't ever not notice the stunt belt anymore in rider after some asshole pointed it out halfway through drive
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>>13332665
He's doing a ghostly thing.

It's fun to be a ghost, kids!You fly in the sky and chill with the souls of dead famous people!
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>>13332676

yeah but I mean, he's not just in the suit beating up random monsters with the most recent trinket he got.
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>>13332672
You mean how flat the drive belt gets?
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>cstoys doing the ghost drive paint jobs

Neat
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>>13332690

yeah. Same thing happened in the first episode of ghost and I just couldn't stop staring at it.
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>>13332696

>$83 for a paintjob
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>>13332328
For one you had Amazon's extreme brutality gaining the ire of parent's groups across Japan, and two Kamen Rider was about to undergo a network change. The new network not only didn't want to deal with Amazon's baggage or forcing a retool, but they wanted a new Rider to bring in viewers. So Amazon was given an early grave and Stronger was born.
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I just noticed this while watching Yuru Yuri.
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>>13332721
Someone pointed that out a few days ago.

Man Golgom is running out of ideas though.
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>>13332517

I'm probably misremembering, it's been awhile since I've seen the series.
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>>13332721
So that's where they invested all of the stolen KickStarter money
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>>13332350
Would've rather had more episodes of X and Amazon than a full-year length V3 tbh
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>>13332348
Remember when cutting yourself, always go across the road, not down the street!
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>>13332755
In the words of Meg Griffin: Side ways for attention, long way for results.
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Does Ghost Driver have different standby sounds for Spectre?
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>>13332786

Yes. Changes when you put the Eyecon in.
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>>13332771
Anon, why do you watch enough Family Guy to be able to quote it?
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>>13332792
My dad watches it and American Dad on BBC Three every night before bed. I have near-enough every episode of both shows in my head as background noise now and I'm getting kinda tired of it tbh
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Here's a transparent cutout of Ghost I found. I wanna see at least one image with him shopped in that isn't him causing 9/11.
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>>13332818
Did you not post it because you know itw ould happen?
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>>13332823
It's Ghost, dude. It's right there.
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I'm just getting into KR with Drive and now Ghost and I was wondering if there are any Youtube series or podcasts that I could further immerse myself into Rider with?
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How does it feel to go like a spinning wheel, /krg/?
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>>13332831
I'll be there
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>>13332736

>golgom starts a kickstarter only to drive humanity into despair by never delivering and then spends the money on starting a coffee company so they can keep people working longer hours, thus making them more miserable, thus making them despair

Why can't golgom just go back to sending monsters out to kill people
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>>13332831
Like you are the one.
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>>13332813
Just start watching PreCure everytime he turns it on
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>>13332823
Shit forgot to upload the image.
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>>13332849
This image is low quality it looks like it came from ps2
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>>13332827

rider club radio's pretty good

i'm sure there's others but I haven't seen any that I liked
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>>13332001
I don't do that with riders, but with sentai. Like "this guy is a stereotypical hothead blue" or a silly green, pure pink, tomboyish yellow, etc.
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So guys I'm going to try and get a nice clean template of the Ghost symbol from this past episode that I can use to carve in a pumpkin this year for Halloween. If you can contribute a good screenshot or anything, it'd be helpful, I'll post it here when it's done.
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>>13332827

Rider Club Radio is pretty good for two losers with no taste bullshitting around for an hour.

But they acknowledge that they have no taste, so it's fun to listen to regardless.
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>>13332827
Just watch the other rider shows.
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Did the newest Gaim Gaidens come out/get subbed yet?
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>>13332001

Sometimes when I see a guy on a motorcycle drive past I think in the back of my mind that could be a Rider on his way to kick some monsters in the face.

I dunno, I just like the thought that people you meet on the street could secretly be superheroes.
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>>13332884
yes
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>>13332871

you mean the big ol eye thing, or like the ghost face on the eyecon or what

either way I'm sure someone's already got a vector of the eye thing somewhere.
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>>13332901

Shit that's even better. I wanted to do the big fancy seal that we see a couple times, but I can build it on to this.
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>>13332888
How sweet, but would you say the same to a random pretty boy on rhe street? Checking whether you like Takeru or not.
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From Hibiki, Kiva and Wizard, which one of these do you guys think it's the best?
I kinda like Kiva.
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>>13332910

I like Takeru, but it's not the same. There are plenty of pretty boys in Rider shows who are not Riders.
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>>13332915
Hibiki > Wizard > Kiva.
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>>13332915
Wizard
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>>13332915

Haven't seen Hibiki, so definitely Wizard.
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>>13332915
I'm also pretty fond of Kiva despite its flaws.
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>>13332915
Don't make me admit that Wizard wasn't that terrible, Anon.
It doesn't feel right.
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>>13332921
Like Gen-san!
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>>13332933

Wizard gets SO CLOSE to being pretty good several times and then just keeps deciding "nah fuck it, that's too much work".

That's really where most of the anger and frustration at it comes from. It could've been legitimately pretty cool and never quite gets it.
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>>13332954
It is Wasted Potential: The Series
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Just got to Rider Mach, he's the best third rider that could have happened. He's pulling all sorts of V3 shenanigans and his base costume is already better than Drive's. Does he stay this awesome?
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>>13332963
Heh
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Imagine if you had to deal with Urataros' shit every fucking morning.

>>13332963
I am so sorry anon.
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>>13332954
>>13332933
>>13332927
Have you guys even seen Hibiki?
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>>13332963
just wait til the suffering
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>>13332963
He goes through the most suffering since Gills. But his final fight is the best fight in the whole season, it's fantastic
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>>13332980
Yes, TV-N subs and all. Wizard is still better overall.
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>>13332963
Mach is the secondary. Ignore the people telling you otherwise, they're wrong.
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>>13332963

I'll just tell you right now, the smug asshole shenanigans are a facade, and it starts cracking pretty fast after his introduction.

He gets a really awesome conclusion to his arc though, so stick with it.
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>>13332721

>canned iced coffee

Man, that's still a weird thing to me.
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>>13332990
No. No, it really isn't.
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>>13332980

No, I'm waiting for new subs.
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>>13332985
>since gills
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>>13332997
Yeah, it is. It has better action and I prefer the suits. Wizard was better overall.
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>>13332992
I don't think they were entirely a lie but he was definitely over acting to keep people from noticing his issues
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>>13332980
A snorefest, and then it turns into a trainwreck.
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>>13333004

>tfw mach will never get a v-cinema and he's being relegated to a fucking novel

I just wanted ot see more mach shenanigans from when he was still having fun in america or something
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>>13333003
>It has better action and I prefer the suits.
If that's your criteria then I'd agree.

>Wizard was better overall.
Not overall it wasn't.
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>>13333004

Yeah, it was the over confidence that he totally has everything under control.

When he starts stressing out about his self-imposed time limit (kill all the Roidmudes before Kiriko finds out), he starts panicking and it falls away.
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>>13332972
>>13332977
>>13332981
>>13332985
>>13332991
>>13332992
Fuck, still his costume is the best, I'm disappointed they didn't make it the main rider's outfit. Though Drive isn't that bad outside of Technic.
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>>13333005
>A snorefest
Good job, you just described Wizard.
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>>13333015
Type Tridoron is pretty cool. ANd wait till you see Mach's upgrades.
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>>13333009
>Not overall it wasn't

Yeah, it was. Something being alright then going to absolute shit is much worse than something being consistently ehh.
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>>13333023
>ANd wait till you see Mach's upgrades.

Why are you trying to torture this poor soul?
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>>13333015
Man, people hate too much on Type Technic.
It isn't perfectly looking, but it's far from being as absolutely horrible as it's made out to be. I like the robot-y aesthetics of it, and it does look better with a less in-your-face shade of green.
At least it's ITS OWN FUCKING SUIT instead of lazily kitbashing pieces of others, sometimes without even bothering with paint.
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