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Fuck waifu thread. Setting discussion.

Anyone notice how the setting of ML takes everything Japan got wrong in the Pacific War, and contrives a way to make it right?

Let's get out of the way:

BETA = massive numbers and infinite production = America
Imperial Japan = Imperial Japan

>believing that offensive factors like speed and range are more important than defensive ones like armor and damage control
This meant that American ships and aircraft frequently survived many the damage that their Japanese counterparts could and contributed to the heavy losses the Japanese suffered to inflict only light casualties on the Americans.
Answer: bullshit lasers makes armor worthless, muh speed muh agility

>believing that that stealth and misdirection count more than pure strength
This meant that the Japanese kept coming up with complex plans that rely heavily on the Americans doing exactly what the Japanese expect them to so that they can be drawn out and destroyed with a decisive battle. Unfortunately the Americans had broken their communications ciphers and knew what the Japanese wanted them to do and made sure to do otherwise.
Answer: BETA are tactically too dumb to live

>believing that you can overcome superior numbers and industrial capacity with a smaller number of extremely intensely trained fighter pilots, who are kept on the front lines until they die instead going home to use their valuable experience to train new pilots
This was a big one that meant that Japan could not replace the fighter pilots they lost quickly enough and had to send large numbers of poorly trained novices out to fight the well-trained American pilots (plus the Japanese planes exploded if you sneeze at them since lol speed and range matter more than armor, meanwhile the American planes were better at letting their pilots survive to gain experience). In the end they just trained kamikaze pilots since you don't need much training to kamikaze.
Answer: muh S-11s, muh make your death count
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Toasting in an epic bread.
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>>13839097
Why do people keep on bringing up WW2 in ML threads?

BETA are supposed to be a stand-in for the Soviet Bloc. Their territory almost directly mirrors former communist bloc territory.

The whole NATO/Soviet dichotomy was that the Soviets always had numerical superiority, but NATO had more effective force multipliers. Something mirrored almost exactly by BETAs. Notice how MLU and MLA (not the side materials which were retconned in later) handwaves the Soviets out of existence without much more than a footnote in a brief lecture by Yuuko, and replaces them with BETA.

This is the only reasonable explanation for Africa's continued survival in ML - from a meta perspective it mirrors a conventional conflict between NATO and WarPac+China where Western Europe has fallen and the focus of the conflict with communism is now at the English Channel in the Atlantic theater, and Japan in the Pacific Theater.

Many of the political arguments and ideas during the MLA coup arc are almost directly lifted from Japanese mindsets surrounding how the US would or would not respond (concerning the mutual security treaty) if the cold war were to go hot, but not thermonuclear.
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>>13839171
>Why do people keep on bringing up WW2 in ML threads
Maybe because it retcons the end of WWII so that the glorious Imperial military doesn't have to get its shit kicked and turned into the SDF?
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>>13839171
So u be sayin they've made the savior side into the enemy of mankind? I blame Jews.
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>>13839189
>the savior side
The what?
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>>13839180
>it retcons the end of WWII
It's called alternate universe
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>>13839254
But why does ONLY Japan get a more favorable end to the war than in real life? Why isn't, say, the British empire also still intact, or Germany allowed to unite? Of all the things they could change to make an interesting alternative setting, they choose to make the Americans go soft on Japan alone?
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>>13839277
Becouse Japan didn't had mhu fascist mad man general, but GLORIOUS SAMURAI
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>>13839277

Because the British Empire had horribly waned by the time of WWII to begin with, and Germany had the small problems of BETA at their doorstep and deep, bitter political divisions which SM addresses.

I don't think giving Britain India back is going to stop it being turned into BETA chowder.
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>>13839298
Let me put it another way, why for example is the Soviet sphere of influence in Eastern Europe the exact same as it is in real life even though the war ended much earlier and by way of atomic bomb instead of by Red Army storming through Eastern Europe into Berlin and blowing up the Reichstag?
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>>13839328
for the same fucking reason?
>we sacrified 10 gorrilion of man in this war, we want some back.
Plus having the Soviet as antagonist helped all the USA imperialist politic
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>>13839244
USSR won Hitler.
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This thread is a perfect example of /m/ reading into things way too hard.
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>>13839400
Is it really reading too hard into it when the coup d'etat arc of the original work is so full of WW2 butthurt?
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>>13839328
Assuming all the wartime conferences were held on an accelerated schedule like the progression of the war, old Roosie would've agreed to give away half of Europe to the reds before the war was even over.
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>>13839097

You need to go deeper, OP.

Most people assume Japan's issues started with WWII but it's entirely possible that they see it as going all the way back to the Meiji Restoration since it's their national history. You wouldn't expect people from Asia to understand the nuances of the American Civil War in shaping US history.

In MLUL/A the Shogunate is preserved and as is obvious from their negotiated surrender to the USA, their leadership is not populated by the same number of "Muh Yamatoism" or "Strike North/South" madmen in our version's own history. Unlike the civilian government of our version's Japan's Imperial era where if you weren't a former samurai, tied to former nobility, had leanings with the IJA/IJN, or occupied important positions on the colonies, you were essentially not worth listening to, MLUL/A Japan straight out preserves the Shogunate as a working portion of the new government. The postwar Diet that gets massacred prior to the coup arc is said to have been set up entirely at the behest of the occupying US forces during the end of WWII and the Shogunate is relegated to a secondary civil association (though keeping their fingers firmly in the war industry) until the coup arc.
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>>13839557
It's fan becouse they was butthurted for being left alone during the Beta invasion in the 1998 and not for the WW2

>The BETA invasion stagnates in the vicinity of the Nagano prefecture with the construction of H21, the Sadogashima Hive. Around this time, the US armed forces unilaterally break the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan and withdraw US forces stationed in Japan.
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>>13839346
Yeah, but they were the villains for almost the whole latter half of the century.
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>>13842200
???
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>>13842415
commie eats babies
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A quick reminder that Mr.Kouki's wildride is due next month and will probably get delayed.
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Where the FUCK is TSF Forefront?
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>>13842415
http://youtu.be/do0x-Egc6oA

>They are the focus of evil in the modern world
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>>13844686
Reagan was a madman who nearly caused a nuclear war.
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>>13846150

No, no, you're mixing him up with Carter who was totally okay with nuclear war as long as he still got his peanuts while in the bomb shelter.
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>>13844454
CANCELLED
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>>13846180

Then where the FUCK is the leaked, playable pre-alpha build?
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Now, hear this, hear this.

Is there anyone here, Man enough, to marry Marimo, and keep her safe from creepy Stalkers and chompy Soldier-kuns?
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The one-dimensional villainy of the stasi is really killing this anime.
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>>13849724

You think the Stasi had a good side?
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>>13849738
No, but even nazis can be interesting characters.
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>>13849738
They nailed Beatix's and Axmann's character. Feel just like the sick fucks they should be. They're by far the two worst sociopaths Age has ever written, and the two deserve nothing more than the most painful and drawn out of deaths.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>13849738
It's making it hard to take them seriously.

>>13849780
Anime original scene, just like Kurt's death.
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>>13839097
>muh speed muh agility
The Zero wasn't even that maneuverable.
No weight = shit speed when diving = shit speed when climbing up again = BTFO every time
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>>13849780
REMOVE BEATRIX
SHE IS THE WORST GIRL EVER
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>>13849780
Too bad she wasn't tortured by Axmann
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>>13850543
Yeah, she was tortured by Beatrix instead. Wonder if Beato raped her like the alpha dyke she is.
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>>13850551
naa, she just showed to Marai a tape with her dominating Hannibal
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Episode 05's animation quality jumped. I think they had to spend most of the budget in some episodes.
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>>13849780
>>13850137
Beatrix never fucking tortured or killed Marai. She doesn't really torture anyone, and she's not a sadist. That's more original shit the anime is heaping on her.

This is Marai's interrogation and death scene. It can be found in Vol 4 Ch 4 for anyone who cares:

下午9时 德意志民主共和国
柏林 利希腾贝格 史塔西本部

「马莱……马莱……」
冰凉的手温柔地抚摸着脸颊━━马莱意识到自己正被谁的手臂抱着。眼睑被殴打得肿起,眼泪模糊了视线。背对着白炽灯那耀眼光芒的人物,正注视着自己。并且,那个人的气味是━━。
「少……校……」
马莱柔弱地微笑。作为回应,最爱的人━━霍尔图雅·汉尼拔少校也展露了微笑。
「……安心吧,已经结束了。能赶上,真是太好了」
发生了什么显而易见。汉尼拔他们、反体制派的人们来救自己了。先前脑袋中听到的沉闷响声,就是那个声音吧。虽然心中某处觉得有些异样,但能和最爱的人相见的喜悦胜过了一切,被那个感情所驱使。
「少校,少……校………」
向汉尼拔伸出纤细的右手。由于长期受到拷问,体力已经突破了底线。那已是她最后的力气了。
「我完成了任务……直到最后,到最后……都坚守着……您的……秘密……」
我知道的,这么说着的汉尼拔拾起马莱的右手,吻了一下。马莱被幸福感所包围。那个人来救自己了━━对自己起肿的脸有没有变得奇怪有些在意。不想让那个人看到自己难看的面容。
汉尼拔的指尖温柔地抚摸着脸颊。那是马莱已干的泪痕。
「你做的很好……已经安全了。好好地休息吧。……只是,在那之前,有个想要你告诉我的事」
「是……少校……」
「我交给你的秘密,是怎么样个内容?不确认下那个就无法制定今后的方针了。所以━━」
马莱轻轻地点了下头。恐怕离自己的生命之火的熄灭,已经为时不多了吧。那能够为汉尼拔所用的话━━。马莱缓缓地微笑。动员最后所剩无几的力量,露出了传达着喜欢汉尼拔的表情,开始道述那埋藏在心底的秘密。

━━30分钟后。史塔西总部地下昏暗的审问室中,耗尽生命,变得冰冷的马莱遗体前,审问官对背后的部下说。
「能挖的情报已经全部挖出来了。之后就按通常的方式处理。话虽如此……」
视线望着装入尸体袋的马莱,审问官轻蔑地说。
「把我和自己的男人搞错而招供,不觉得是和国家公敌相称的凄惨末路吗━━?」
审问官的部下们发出的此起彼伏笑声,回荡在那阴暗的走廊。

She dies at the hands of a couple of overzealous stasi. Neither Beatrix nor Schmidt were there.
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>>13851254
中国豚去死天安門
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>>13851255
Oh for fuck's sake, crawl back to 2chan.
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LNs fags, FUCK OFF
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>>13852951
Anon hau ab.
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>>13850697
Feels more like it fell, there was a fair bit of off model.
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>>13856662
Compared with the previous episode, no
Was way better that one.
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>>13851254
oh please stop no one cares about ur 1:1 adaption please stop bringing up source materials in ANIME DISCUSSIONS
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CHEESES
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>>13858132
>>13854156
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>>13859177
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>>13858132
The Japs and Chinese care at least.
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>>13861121
Yeah but that's an International Board, so we don't fucking care. Chinese and Japs can eat shit.
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>>13861121
Well that's because they've read it.
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Is AltPro still planning on translating the rest of the LNs or are they holding out for an official localization of the VN?
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>>13839097
muvluv is a gay dating sim manga to otakus who don't really love mechs, or war, or plot.
or women older than 12
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>>13867827
ebin
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translation?
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The DDM game still isn't playable? Have there been any news at least?
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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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In case you all was wondering what they're singing in the engrish part of the OP:

Black cross sorting with tears in force.
Let's fly together until the dream is visible.
I want to be a dark despair energy.
Schwarzesmarken arms now!
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>>13873011
I guess I should have expected as much.
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>>13839171
>BETA are supposed to be a stand-in for the Soviet Bloc.
BETA are a stand-in for the anonymous cruel and faceless crowd in the internet on the other side of the screen.
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>>13873011
Lyrics?
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>>13839097
That's a lot of US war propaganda in so little space.

Show me where Ruth Benedict touched you on this doll.
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>>13839097
>believing that you can overcome superior numbers and industrial capacity with a smaller number of extremely intensely trained fighter pilots
Japan didn't have the manpower to do it any other way. Their hope was that they could make the Americans give up rather than bring their superior resources to bear.

>who are kept on the front lines until they die instead going home to use their valuable experience to train new pilots
Who is Marimo
Who are the Fuji OpFor
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>Lise utterly hates Katia now
That's something.
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>>13875381
please, please tell me that's a lie!
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It's funny people mention anime only stuff, while I myself can't shake the feeling this is Unlimited starring a cast of Krauts as opposed to Nips.

It's fucking weird, I keep expecting a groundhog day loop plot to kick in.
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>>13875488
Why though?
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>>13875477
Sorry, it's over.
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>>13875667
I dunno, I don't always understand my thought processes either.
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Why there is not appearence for Russian or China teams?
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>>13875381
I thought it was Irisdina she was supposed to end up hating.
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>>13876223
There've been a lot of hints in the anime, from her smirk in episode 3, to the slight glance in the beginning of this one, that she doesn't exactly like Katia, or at best sees her as somebody to manipulate.
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>add people from the kickstarter to wish them happy Valentine's day
>they immediately delete you
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>>13875933
they're busy trying to not completely die
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>>13876240
Good. Valentines is a waste of a day anyway. Hopefully this helps you realize that.
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>>13876277
Not true. There's Discount Chocolate Day right after.
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>>13876281
Okay, you got me on the one thing.
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schwarzesmarken question to all anons:

do they?
do the fugg?
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>>13876993
In principle, yes.
But only in her route, in Martyrs, and it doesn't look terribly like the Lise route right now.
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>>13876993
Only in her route
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>>13876993
yes they do. in the LN
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>>13848856
This is not /a/

What makes you think I would lurk on /m/?
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>>13877221
>This is not /a/
I fail to see what relevance that has to do with anything
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>>13877308
Were you not supposed ask this question on /a/ since it is your duty?
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>>13877366
I'm not the anon who asked the question, so no
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>>13877389
Well how would you protect Marimo?
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>>13839097
Have you missed the part where humanity is losing?
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I just can't watch SM without pausing and browsing 4chan all the time. The bloody thing feels like a parody because of how people behave. I mean Jesus fuck it's so bad.
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>>13876993
HONEYPOT.

H-O-N-E-Y-P-O-T
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Dont know shit about muvluv. Does this show get good? Is there a muvluv without highschool looking motherfuckers and the soldiers actually look and act like soldiers?
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>>13878949
nonono
you need to sit through ten hours of pressing [A] to page through a shitty high school novel in order to understand that it's sad when the girl dies in the monster dimension
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>>13878951
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>>13839097
Is the picture from a Muv-Luv or something else?
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>>13878951
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>>13878969
Well yes, episode 4 (?) of the Schwarzesmarken anime.
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>>13879470
why and how did she get cooked, it just doesn't make any sense.
of she didn't have to die dammit!
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>>13879485
She wasn't grounded, a typical rookie mistake.
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>>13879555
Assuming that they all survived instead of dying in the most cliche ways possible, could they have taken on the superior without sacrificing the Susanoo? Or would he have enough tentacles to handle them all?
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>>13852700
>>13851254
糞中国人食狗肉
快去死中国豚
天安門
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How good is Schwarz? Thinking of picking it up. Better than Alternative?
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>>13879786
>Alternative

Please explain what you are talking about. MLA VN or Total Eclipse anime ?

If it's the second, can't tell for sure until the end comes, but so far it's somehow better.
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>>13879470
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so I try to take the survey on the kikestarter, but nothing appears

how are they going to know what my steam account is?
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>>13880386
they send you the key in the same mail you received the backerkit survey
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>>13879470
HNNNNNNNGH
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>>13880573
alright, found it, now when the digital download will just be a steam key they'll email out later in march?
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>>13880631
now you are annoying
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>>13880631
First time funding a games kick starter? This isn't exactly the place to ask "how tos" anons don't like "spoon feeding" because muh secret club house.
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>>13881206
Considering /m/ was kickstarter shilling and payment support general for like two months he can be forgiven for thinking so.
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>>13881215
>shilling
Are you the same imbecile who was whining about "shills" on the thread about The Origin?
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>>13881278
The mid section needs to be a little longer I think.
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>>13839171
>a conventional conflict between NATO and WarPac+China
China joining a war on the Soviets' side is questionable, considering the Sino-Soviet split was underway in the late 50s.
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>>13881287
Are you mentally deficient?

There was more posts encouraging people to give Degica all their money because le true fan maymay in a week than there is discussing an ongoing anime in a month.

>>13881293
The legs need to not be 20' apart, mostly.
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>>13881299
>Are you mentally deficient?
>There was more posts encouraging people to give Degica all their money because le true fan maymay in a week than there is discussing an ongoing anime in a month.
That did not answer my question.
Again: are you the same imbecile who was whining about "shills" in the thread about The Origin?
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>>13881310
I'm also the monster under your bed, the presence you feel behind you, and the one that closes that door in your house.
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>>13881320
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>>13881320
I AM DARKWING KEK
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>>13881320
oh noes its a babaduke
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>>13851255
九七年來了。來自大陸的人民一遇吐痰一遇到來。
很多罪案發生!因此香港政府呼召李小龍(Bruce Lee)的親戚、陳先生。。
委託他進行人民抹殺計劃。陳先生是殺人的專家將人民一個不留地趨盡殺絕巴!

Ahem.

Seriously.

BEATRIX IS ALI-AL SAACHEZ.

YOU DO NOT EXCUSE OR FORGIVE ALI-AL SAACHEZ JUST BECAUSE HE IS FUCKABLE.

So stop trying to justify or forgive Beatrix's actions because you can fap to her.
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>>13881733
You can for LN and VN Beatrix so far.

But you can't for Anime Beatrix, yeah. She's already beyond any kind of forgiveness.
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>>13881748
They might be trying to rail her characterization back on track with a more bloodthirsty edge to it, who knows. I'm hopeful we'll be getting some events from Martyrs in here.
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>>13878077
aww, man. that's just rude.

the three replies previous to your implies Theo might fall the fuck in.

we miss you Theo...
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>>13878969
schwarzesmarken is 10x better than most other Muvshit due to the SIEG-HEIL MEIN KAMERADEN! Communist-Nazi-Tacticool-HiddenReference sauce.

otherwise, it's just MuvLuv...
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>>13881800
That's not really the same. Even if they try to give her a "good" side in the end, it will be totally overshadowed by her previous actions. They won't be able to give her anything else than the title of Evil Stasi Bitch here.
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>>13881876
>SIEG-HEIL MEIN KAMERADEN! Communist-Nazi-Tacticool-HiddenReference sauce
>...
So much cringe it's not even funny
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>>13881904
What's your favorite thing about Muv-Luv?
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>>13881939
actually, my favorite thing about MuvLuv IS the Commu-Nazi-Tactical-freedomMechs-anime CG faitan.

the plot and the Charcaters have yet to grab me.

the BETA are also goofy as fuck...i'm sure there is more than one dick joke in there i just don't bother to look for.
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>>13876993
I'd totally fuck my not sister
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>>13881939

Takeru. He's a great dynamic protag.
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>>13882046
He is.
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>>13839097
God damn it I just wanted to see a Montana, I can't stand japanese tropes.
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>>13882430
>I can't stand japanese tropes.
Then why are you on a board for Japanese media on a website that was created to discuss anime?
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Who's going Werewolf in Martyrs?
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>>13881879
I didn't say they'd do a good job at it, anon, I'm just speculating.
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>>13882430
Why would you wanna see that eyesore?!
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>>13882729
>Werewolf
>not Werwolf

Cut that shit out!
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>>13882739
It's a cute idea, but German MiG-29s appear in Duty Lost Arcadia in standard colours because people figured out camo was fucking useless by then.
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>the entire White Forces PV
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>>13885108
Link?
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>>13884946
>German MiG-29s appear in Duty Lost Arcadia in standard colours

You mean the MiG-29OVT? Since of all the issues of Lost Arcadia that's the only story with East Germans in it. Normal -29s have only appeared in standard Soviet colors in TE; actual East German standard -29s have not appeared yet as far as I remember.
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>>13885178
Who's even a part of East Germany anymore? How does it even continue to function as a political entity? Do they consist of some office in the part of Alaska partitioned to the commies?
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>>13885191
No, they're stuck with the Wessies. They're still apparently butthurt about how 1983 and 84 went down so they never reconciled.
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>>13885191

Well, the East Germans?

How does any other nation in exile in MLUL/A continue to function as a political entity? That's how.

According to Lost Arcadia, the East/West are cozying it up together in South Africa like how Taiwan and China are stuck with each other on Taiwan. They have some holdings in South America as well. Most of the other EU nations went to Greenland instead. Their militaries have been folded into the EU Force as an army group-type unit; one group for East, one group for West.
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>>13885228
Why doesn't Taiwan just put the commies out of their misery?
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>>13885237

You might as well ask why they didn't kill each other first during the Japanese invasion instead of joining up together to resist the 日本鬼子.
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>>13885292
Considering how little the gommies did to actually help, that probably would've been a sound idea.
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>looking up something on Minami Kuribayashi's ja wiki page
>wait why the fuck is the url /Minami
>realize she changed her stage name again last month
>I also overlooked that she's been back in public since December
>appeared at Animax Musix Osaka over the weekend
Good, I guess?

She calls Chiaking Mitsuki her entire blog post about being on her live stream so that's amusing.
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Where the FUCK is Muv Luv UE4?!
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>>13888289
Ded.
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>>13888498
...
>not a good mecha game in years

why living anymore?
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>>13888610
I was kidding.

We got news like what, one month ago ? It's always way better than with Forefront when we didn't know what was happening for a year.
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TDA Alternative when?
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>>13885337

Well, since China is still kicking, might as well use them to buff up the Taiwanese. America may be rich but why pour more cash to your allies when you can have them share the burden with the reds?

They'd never have leased Alaska to the Soviets otherwise.

>>13888691

Wouldn't that be just post-Alternative then?

How does a world that has found out how to cap Hives without using G-bombs turn itself into a G-bomb-induced hellhole in the near future?
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>>13888719
Yes. I mean the TDA characters in the Alternative timeline, where they don't have to worry about impending extinction quite so much.
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>>13888728
I mean, we already know what happens to at least one of them, might as well talk about the others. Even if it's just a short epilogue, it'd be nice.
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>>13888728
An Alternative "ending" where humans retake all their lost lands would be quite awesome.

And then they G-Bomb the Moon and Mars, and possibly every other planet until a hive crush on Earth again.
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>>13888728

Better start spamming Kouki's twitter to ask for Alternative II, then.

>>13888736
>An Alternative "ending" where humans retake all their lost lands would be quite awesome.

Not so fast, valiant Surface pilot, there's still a battalion of espers and a top mad Soviet out there.
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>>13888736
There are more than a few loose ends from the past to clear up, though.
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>>13888736
What if the BETA somehow launch infos about humans to the Creators ( Or what is considered to be the highest ranked BETA if they don't exist anymore ) right before getting beat the fuck out of Earth, and several decades or centuries after, they come back again with an actual combat-ready army ( Instead of miners ) made to specifically crush any known human weapon/strategy ?
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>>13888788
>What if the BETA somehow launch infos about humans to the Creators ( Or what is considered to be the highest ranked BETA if they don't exist anymore ) right before getting beat the fuck out of Earth, and several decades or centuries after, they come back again with an actual combat-ready army ( Instead of miners ) made to specifically crush any known human weapon/strategy ?

So they'll be spec'd to crush ballistics-based tactics when the humans have mastered G-element replication, rapid-fire particle weapons, void shields, and homing lasers?

Just leave out the "made to specifically crush any known human weapon/strategy?" if you want to use "several centuries after".
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>>13888755
>>13888771
I was assuming humans would kill each other as always right after beating the BETA of course.

That's not like the Master could stand a global war anyway. Even with a lot of countries weakened, he won't be able to destroy the superpowers. At much he will be a ISIS-like burden to the World.

>>13888788
>>13888805
Just thinking about an army-oriented BETA force and what applications they could make of G-Element is giving me nightmares.

Can't the Alt universe be in peace someday ?
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>>13888820
>Can't the Alt universe be in peace someday ?

According to one or two ancient (like literally 2007 and before) /m/ and 2chan rumour mills one of age's very first games are supposedly set in Alternative's very far future.
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>>13888863
What ? Which one ?

Both Kimiga and Kiminozo are on Extra universe. Akane Maniax could go there too. Age Maniax is too wtf for anything.

Maybe Kaseki No Uta ? The one with the dolls thing ? I don't remember it very well, but it seemed pretty much fantastic compared to Alt universe. Though it's the only one I can think of having some kind of advanced technology.
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>>13888993
>Kaseki No Uta

Yeah, that's the supposed one.
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>>13889026
That's pretty weird. Do you, by any chance, remember which aspects were supposedly connected to Alternative ?

Will try to play it again, now that my Japanese is way better than the first time I did it.
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>>13889067
>That's pretty weird. Do you, by any chance, remember which aspects were supposedly connected to Alternative ?

Unfortunately, not. I distantly remember that it was something more along the lines of "humanity survived a great disaster" or something equally vague or meta-sounding but I have nothing in either the old or new archives to prove for it, so it means little more than just an addled memory.
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hold me, /m/.

I just finished watching the first episode. It's like the writers know that they are falling for the same tropes as other anime shows, but do nothing about it.

About to watch episode 2 hoping it's not just another shitty typical anime. Will it get better?
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>>13889163
>partaking in something ML related
>not expecting typical anime shittiness
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>>13889163
Go watch IBO.
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>>13889067

Although, looking at the JP Wiki page for Kaseki, loss of interstellar communications and resultant conflicts are mentioned, so at least the rumor link is visible.
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>>13889154
>>13889182
Yeah, so I guess aside from the cataclysm and advanced technology with cyborgs, there is not much to hypothesize about. Because I don't remember anything related in one way or another to a TSF, and the cataclysm is mainly a massive world war with no mention of any alien invasion.

Looks more like a recycled idea than a real universe setting.

But I wasn't aware there was such a rumor about it, so thank you. I'll do it again with that in mind, in case I can find any other stronger evidence.
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>>13889166
It's my first Muv Luv show. I really wasn't expecting it.

>>13889167
To think that a show about shotas in space is less cringey than a mechas in a fight for survival against aliens during the Cold War.
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>>13889218
Watch more.
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>>13889218
>IBO
>not cringy anime shit
Are you 14 years old
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>>13889218
>To think that a show about shotas in space is less cringey
Nigga, Mika is literally "psh nothing personnel kid"
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>>13888993
>Both Kimiga
You mean KimiIta, right?
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>>13889163
>maxresdefault.jpg
>Watching anime on Youtube
>In 540p
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>>13889163
>>13889163
>watching adaption of a galgame
>not expecting anime tropes
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>>13890508
It's actually CR.

>>13890584
I didn't know it was a galgame. I don't even know what a galgame is.
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>>13891633

Google and Wikipedia tell me
>a type of Japanese video game centered on interactions with attractive girls.
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>>13891633
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>less than a month before Extra/Unlimited go live
>0 hints or teasers as to what to expect in the definitive edition
>doesn't even feel like they've began working on it

I kinda starting to get worried guys
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>>13892565
I just really really want to know what extras they've added, and if there will be achievements/wallpapers/emoticons etc...
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So if Beatrix is the villain in Iris' route, and Axmann in Lise's...
Does that mean Schmidt will be the big bad of Katia's route?
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Post Keis
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>>13892627
Fine by me.
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>>13890584
Schwarzesmarken is not an adaptation of a galge you retarded piece of shit. It's an adaptation of a Light novel.
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>>13892606
Possibly. He could've been the one who had Katia's whole family purged.
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>>13892768
>Light novel
implying a light novel isn't pandering harem shit
implying is any better than a galgame

delusional piece of shit
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>>13893803
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>>13893795
You're embarrassing everyone. Please don't associate Mana-sama with your fucking stupidity.
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>>13893795
>implying a light novel isn't pandering harem shit
you haven't read even one light novel in you whole life .
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>>13893837
>>13893878

no doubt why no one post here anymore
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>>13892538
Was that the scene where Takeru finds out that Marimo is kill?
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>>13891637
>centered on interactions with attractive girls

Oh, so Muv-Luv has nothing to do with the galgame genre then.
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>>13894308
What are you implying anon?
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>>13893837
>embarrassing
>Mana-sama
>sama

Jesus fucking Christ.>>13894317
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>>13894317
HE'S CALLING OUR WAIFUS A SHIT GET HIM!!
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>>13892768
Actually, it's an adaptation of the VN.
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>>13894399
Actually, it's not. It was worked alongside the VN's version of the story.
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>>13894405
Yeah, so like I said, an adaptation of the VN. They're using notes from there for this.
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>>13888736

>And then they G-Bomb the Moon and Mars, and possibly every other planet until a hive crush on Earth again.

Not so fast, Nuking the moon is the same as suicide. Look at all the destruction the Gbombs caused on earth in TDA. Now imagine what kind of gravitational anormalities would happen if they tried to destroy all the hives on the moon by just using Gbombs.

Mars is another story.
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>>13894407
No, it is not an adaption of the VN. The two were developed at the same time, adapting the LNs.
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>>13894555
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>>13894455

If they are able to understand that a range exists between the "one bomb per scheduled anti-Hive operation" and "all the bombs plus the US president's personal furry pink White House toilet seat cushion at the same time" button, I'm sure they'll be able to work out a solution that doesn't involve creating a wormhole into the adjacent original G-Guy parallel universe.
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>>13849780
Who was this again?
Non of the characters so far have made much of an impression and I thought this was just a random scene of stasi torturing someone.
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>>>/a/137633562

So what's this shit over?
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>>13895203
Kimi Nozo Guy said that SM is more plot driven than character driven on his blog, along with saying an adaptation should stand on it's own / be divorced from its source material. Now he's admitted he's wrong and some anti-KNGuys have latched on to it and are blowing things out of proportion.
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>>13895203
Some retard is shitposting that an attention whoring tripfag mattered in any way.
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>>13895203
>>13895220
>>13895221
What happened to TE Spoiler Guy also?
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>>13895239
He's just some irrelevant shittposter now that he's been run out of /m/. How new are you?
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>>13895250
New? No. Just haven't been paying attention to /m/ Muv-Luv threads for the past year or so.
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>>13895263
/m/uv-luv tripfags were always a bunch of worthless attention whores. Now some people are acting like they ever really mattered.
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>>13895312
At least those tripfags contributed to the boards more than you ever will.
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>>13895331
Nah, I did a lot back in the day myself. You have no clue what I did, kid.
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>>13895337
So you're acting now like an attention whore yourself, just without a tripfag. Unless you have something to showcase, you can scram back to bed Jim. I hear daddy wants another go with your ass.
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>>13895345
Skipping straight to the insults, huh? Typical delusional anon stuck on sucking tripfag cock.
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>>13895362
You already did skip to insults earlier, m'boy.
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>>13895391
No, all I did was tell it the way it is.
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>>13895395
Except, you didn't. You were just flinging shit for the sake of it.
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>>13895480
I did though. Keep your crude monkeyisms to yourself.
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>>13895395
>>13895480
get a room
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Would TSF's work if they ever had a presence in Super Robot Wars? They already have Arm Slaves, so a TSF wouldn't be far off. What would the SRW arc for Muv-Luv be like?
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>>13895482
Perhaps your own view, which isn't correct at all.
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>>13895487
No, it's not 'my' view, it's the objective view.
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>>13895494
Objectively speaking you can't have an objective view because you are slave to your senses and biases, and even when recognizing them you can never be objective.
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>>13895533
Okay.
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>>13895239
Some assblasted mod kept banning him for no reason halfway through his spoiler threads so he took off his trip.
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Mods need to suck on this DICK
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>>13895486
>SM - Beatrix gets shanked by Theo after making a deal with some non-ML villains; Jurgen comes back due to some bullshit; Axmann and Schmidt either die or are redeemed, everybody else has a happy ending
>TE - Master is redeemed; Sandek dies; everyone is happy at the end with harem shenanigans
>ML - Superior is corrupted by non-ML villains; Takeru and other heroes have to put him down
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>>13895772
>Sandek dies
Dropped
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>>13895312
But whoring themselves out on social media makes them an important part of the international Muv-Luv community dude.
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>>13895772
How is Beatrix dying while Ketchup and Schmidt possibly get off a happy ending?
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Daily reminder that only one man can save the world from Beta scum.
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>>13896217
Who?
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Warning! The satellites just detected a pair of delicious bouncy Polish tits breaching the thread's defensive lines. All /m/en, scramble to intercept.
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>>13896273
Based Jouji.
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>>13896301
>SexWithHumans?.jpg

Would completely intercept
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Anyone know how the tl is going? Last update was at 25%
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>>13896273
>he's never heard of the almighty TEKKUMAN
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>>13897841
Stupid Fishbed.
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>>13897921
Stupid sexy Fishbed.
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