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Wild Arms 2 interview with Kaneko, Ootsubo and Itou
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The Gundam knockoffs mentioned.
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remake when
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>>14235081
>symphogay
NEVER
EVER
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>Kaneko says that Force is something that builds up with fear, when you're in danger. Regular enemies just die to normal attacks so it's mainly for bosses. It's a system they came up with solely for Ashley- Letting him just transform right off the bat would be equivalent to Ultraman starting a fight with his specium ray.
Wait, wasn't the Force bar in the first game too?
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>>14235160
Oops, misinterpreted the line because I'd forgotten that it was in 1. Fixed.
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>>14235158
Shame,which makes me hate them even more.
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>>14235158
There's a difference?
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>>14235191

That's probably not the reason. If he wanted to make more, he'd make more. Working on another show wouldn't stop him, since he could simply work between seasons, or if necessary alongside seasons. Sure, it might slow down one or both, but if he wanted to make it, he wouldn't really care. Creators work on multiple properties in succession or even simultaneously on a regular basis.
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>>14235158
It's more Sony's desire to make a new Wild Arms than it is Kaneko's at this point, I believe. He probably does want to make one anyways, but he's got enough on his hand working on seasons 4 and 5.
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>>14235240
He seems to have a habit of losing interest in hiw\s works and randomly getting a shitload of inspiration all of a sudden. Hell, he was planning on ending Symphogear with GX until he got drive for it again during production all of a sudden. It stands to reason his nostalgia boner will suddenly go full mast for Wild Arms too.
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Media Vision hiring for a PS4 RPG which may or may not be Wild Arms
http://blog.hokanko-alt.com/archives/48083324.html
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>>14235051
TE likes WA?
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>>14235252

If the slide in quality the show has taken series by series is any indication he should have finished with GX. It wouldn't be ending on a high note, but at least it'd be over. Unless he gets a burst of creative juice, season 4 and 5 will be fairly terrible if the slide continues.
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>>14235302
That's been known for quite a while. You should have seen him rant about ACF's translation troubles (apparently they were going to fix the names from the original, turn "Zeikfried" back into Siegfried and stuff, but the fans went NOT MUH until they stopped)
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>>14235302
ZIEKFRIED TUWAI
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>>14235320
ZEIKFREID TUVAI
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>>14235316
Century X, Quatrain 72 states:

In the year 1999 and seven months

From the sky will come a great King of Terror ANGKOR MOA
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>mfw when i saw Rassyu
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>Kaneko says that Force is something that builds up with fear, when you're in danger. Regular enemies just die to normal attacks so it's mainly for bosses.
This explains why the boss music leans toward sounding creepy/heavy than rpg stand bloodpumping rockin' boss music.
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>>14235334
Does PS4 have an activity log type thing? WA3's ingame timer only counts time running around/in battles. The game was fucking long and I'd like to know the actual time spent playing rather than what it tells you.
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>The interview ends with Kaneko using half a page to talk about how he plans making Wild Arms 3 a baseball game.

>>14235334
I need to finish my replay of 3. I got through the Guardian Lords then put down the game because I didn't feel like rearranging and distributing them all and sort of just forgot about it for a while from there.
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>>14235333
Did I hear my name?
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>>14235336
And while the boss battle theme builds up, the normal battle music is front-heavy. The team knew you'll blitz through random encounters so they shouldn't wait until music gets to the good part.

It also sounds kinda like Guren no Yumiya but everyone probably noticed that already. WA2 was two decades before AoT anyway
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>>14235403
Never watched that show, huh, that DOES sound really similar.
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>>14235403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kTyRd50Xr8
kek,now I can't unhear
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1_q8xMNYYg
What's wrong with 4 again?
Is it because they introduced the HEX?
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>Regarding the encounter cancel system: Kaneko notes that people who don't like battles just run from them, but thinks that it's silly that they have to do that because it's not that they actually want to run from battles, but that they don't want to get into them in the first place. The encounter cancel system was made for such people. The coin continue system was something that came as natural to the developers, as most of the people on the staff love arcade shooters and fighters. Kaneko doesn't like how you can't use all the characters in your party at the same time, and would've liked all the characters taking on Ragu O Ragula together, but hardware limitations meant only three party members could be displayed at any one time.


I don't think Wild Arms 2 gets near enough credit
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>>14235051

Fuck is this meme game?
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>>14235559

No?
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>>14235559
It's a game of heroism and justice, that's all you need to know.
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>>14235556
>but hardware limitations meant only three party members could be displayed at any one time.

Remind me again why people make games for console systems in the first place?
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>>14235594
>Steam
>Pre 2000
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>>14235594
Remind me why you're here and not /v/?
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>>14235616
>Steam
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>>14235594

Because they're not cuckolds like you are.
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You know 5 wasn't my favorite by a long shot but seeing all the cameos of other characters living not shitty lives sure was nice
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>>14235594
Consoles as dedicated gaming machines were better than PCs up until the last few gens because of specialization.

Now Sony and Microsoft are just making watered down PCs and Nintendo is being Nintendo.

Go be retarded somewhere else.
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Best Wild Arms?
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>>14235787
2 or 3.

I'm personally partial to 1. Doesn't have particularly unique systems, but on the other hand there also weren't as many ways to break the game's difficulty in half as there were in 2/3.
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>>14235787

I tend to flip flop between the second and third ones myself depending on my mood.

4 and 5 are alright, I like the HEX system fine it's pretty fun but plot and character wise they're a good deal weaker. 4 especially feels "low budget"
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>>14235806
It's funny how ACF feels way better overall but also brings in some crazy ways to game break were you once couldn't. You get Gatling Raid like a third of the game in and story bosses from that point onwards all die in one, two shots.
Then again, I guess 1 had a more solid gameplay base because the gameplay was also more basic. It was essentially your generic RPG system+the force gauge (and Rudy having ammo-based specials I guess, but that's kind of a reminder of DnD style spells like in FF1). Later games tried to add more original stuff and every time it broke the game (personal skills, Gatling, Intrude, all fun stuff)
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>>14235787
1 hasn't aged well and is literally duwang.

2 has great gameplay, setting, and story, but also has a pretty bad translation. Graphics haven't aged well either.

3 has aged pretty well but the story and setting aren't as interesting as 2. Has a decent translation however.

Alter Code F is a full remake of 1 that is vastly improved in all ways, including translation, but unfortunately the duwang names were kept because retarded fans protested "name changes".

4 and 5 are alright but a massive departure from the previous games. They still have their moments but almost everyone agrees that they're not just as good as 1-3.

XF is just weird.
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Billy, the man in the wheelchair, who's the real hero of Slayheim.
WAIT WHAT
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>>14235969
Yeah, the Venom Snake angle got muddled in the English version by the godawful translation.
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>>14235969
It's not hard at all to deduce even in the shitty translation

rylcmm (reevaluate your life choices, my man)
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>>14235969
Yeah they swapped names.

The duwang is pretty strong with WA1 and WA2. Rody is a homunculus, not a "homo cross", and Zack is the Vambrace of the knights, not the Van Burace.
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>>14235999
The van burace of the fenrill knights at that.

You know, fenrill, the wolf.
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>>14235999
Also, Belselk. How the hell do you even pull that one off?
2 was somehow worse. Special mention to any laugh at all being rendered as "Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha." making everyone look like snarky assholes.
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>>14236015
>implying that isn't better than the original text
Fuck off weeb
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Fun fact: The German releases used the English names.

Siegfried Zwei REMAINED ZEIKFREED TUVAI IN GERMANY.
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>>14236015
Pffffft. You want laughs? Play Suikoden 2.

Hahahahihuhuhihehohohahuhohoho!!!!!!!!!
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Aren't we supposedly getting a vita game eventually?
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>>14235871
>>14235999
WA2 that bad?
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>>14236070
It's actually pretty good

But the translation's not
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>>14236077
>It's pretty good, except for one the most important aspects
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>>14236092
People still like it despite the duwang, it's that good.

I mean it's not as good as it should be, but still good.
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Another WA2 duwang: Ley lines and ley points became "raline" and "ray point".

Yeah it's pretty bad.
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>The bakery is Marina's aunt's house, her parents are dead too. Her parents are dead outlaws, akin to Bonny and Clyde, and probably died in a hail of bullets.

Huh.
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>>14236135
Whatever excuses you want to make
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>>14236444
Fuck off retard
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>>14236028
Holy shit
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>>14235334

best grill.
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Posting best girl
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>>14236729
True but all WA2 playable girls have lickable pussies
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Im a bit surprised no one's done a retranslation patch for 2. I know Wild Arms is kind of niche but it's hardly an obscure franchise
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>>14236729
>that /ss/ story in WA3

Diamonds.
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>>14236780

I've never even seen people talk about outside Symphogear threads here on /m/. I recall hearing the franchise name before those, but only occasionally and not in years. If it's not an obscure franchise it's certainly an untouched, unloved and unseen one.
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>>14236849

it took me a few minutes to even remember why this is /m/ related. i remember the opening cinematic being pretty legit, though.
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>>14236849

Go to /vr/ and get a thread going. It shouldn't be hard. It's not an unpopular series by any stretch it's just kinda "dead" at the moment so there's not a lot to really discuss. But it's no harder to find fans of it than it is Suikoden or Breath of Fire

>>14236854

The /m/ stuff comes out of left field at first and tends to vary in quantity depending on the game. 5 can get pretty giant robo in places
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>>14236849
Why are you acting so proud of being a newfaggot, again?
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>>14236780
Ah, I remember like the second or third fight with Kanon. She kept attacking one of the guys, and killed him, so I had the girl resurrect him, but he had low HP, so on her turn, she just killed him. So I resurrected him again. And I had my other guy dealing damage. So we got stuck into this loop where the weakest guy would die, get resurrected, since he had the lowest HP Kanon would only attack him, leaving my other guy free to attack Kanon.
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>>14236875
Thats a /v/ thing, don't mind him
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>>14236875
>>14236883
He's not doing anything of the sort, though.
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>>14236875

Tell you what anon, why don't you search the /m/ archive and tell me how often the game comes up outside Symphogear threads?
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>>14236878

yeah for some reason Kanon REEEEEAAAAAAAALY hated Tim
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>>14236975
Tim knew First Aid. That shit heals everything and always goes first. She knew to take the healer out.
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>>14236975
Maybe she was tsun for him.

I actually have the first two games on PSN. I should download them and play them again sometime.
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>>14236994

she's already pretty tsun for Ashley
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>>14237001
>you'll never be smothered by cyborg woman armpit
give one reason to live
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>>14237058

A hard drinking, bar fighting, cyborg woman
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>>14237063
Who is fictional
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>>14237058
Floofy hair
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https://youtu.be/IJrC0NJ5n9w?t=2h14m28s

the GOAT
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>>14237139

Brad is cool
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>>14237139
>LPlayer
>every time there's a menu they freeze back out back in move the cursor up and down before finally selecting the shit they where going to do in the first place

Ugh. Im all for taking your time to plan ahead but for crying out loud it doesn't take that long to use your bazooka
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>>14237179
It is clearly not a LP, it is just a playthrough

I found another version of this a few years back on an LP and there's some nasally faggot saying 'this is brad's crowning moment of awesome'. Just deal with it
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>>14236077
Is it still playable though
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>>14237479
I think so, but yeah, the translation's pretty janky in spots. Like everything that comes out of Liz's mouth, for example.
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>>14237487

Liz and Ard where intentionally unintelligible even in the Japanese version they're loony you're not supposed to understand them because they're nonsensical aliens
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>>14237515
That certainly explains a lot.
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>>14237515
Except that's wrong retard. Liz speaks in puns that just went over the blind idiot translator's head.
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>>14237162
Source?
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>>14238452
It's just fanart from Pixiv, if fanart by a damn competent artist
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=4832919
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Tuesday
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Remake when
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>>14235691
>Ashley freaks out if you speak to him wearing the Knightblazer outfit
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>>14241858

Ive wanting one since they did the first Alter Code.

>>14241993

It's the little details
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WA3 is on Yuro store,but can't find it on US store.
I want the NTSC ver not PAL
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>>14235570
Johnny Appleseed
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>>14236031
Luca best S2 boi.
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>>14242625
gohi
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>>14235556

This battle cancel thing was the best implementation of random encounters in JRPG I've ever experienced.
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>>14235871

XF is good as far as TRPGs go, since you can really use tactics instead of just grinding everyone to be more powerful than the enemies.
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>>14242649

It really makes exploring more enjoyable
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I just got bad flashbacks to some of the weakest parts of 4's voice acting.
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I got 3 off the PS Store today, it's pretty good.

Haven't enjoyed a JRPG in a while.
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>>14245807

3's actually my favorite so im looking forward to sitting down and trophy whoring in it

3 will blow your mind on a replay
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>>14245014
Too bad it came out before dual audio became a JRPG mainstay
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Remember /m/

You can do anything as long as you don't give up
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>>14246137

anything?
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>>14246137
Fuck off Dean
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>>14235051
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>>14245931
Virginia is best girl

And best state
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>>14247682
Excuse me but you are wrong Washington is the best state.
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>>14247902
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>>14247902
>Washington
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>>14247902
have you ever been to the US you slant-eyes towelheaded gook spic
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>>14247902
Washington is HARAM
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Had one of the best map themes ive ever had the grace of hearing. Its the one that plays whenever you ride the dragon thing in the last few chapters.

The battle vs lord blazer theme was pretty good. I really want a remake.
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>>14254985

Michiko Naruke does not get near the credit she deserves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JETn5TEmKk8&index=28&list=PLF84072CFBA74E5F1
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>>14258446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQFlh78H6n8
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Why do people shit on WA4? I'd argue it is the darkest of the series.
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>>14258653
I dunno,it's the only one I haven't played yet,the cast kinda puts me off.
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>>14235691
>having to chase Zed around
heheheheheheheh
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>>14258653
Darkness doesn't equal good
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>>14258653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2EpPGRVLkI

It just feels very incomplete to me: Short, a fairly undeveloped cast, a very undeveloped set of villains. The music was a treat though.
Gawn's missile-fighting scene was fantastic.
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>>14258653
>I'd argue it is the darkest of the series.

How the hell does that make it good?

I don't outright hate the game but no one complained about it not being dark. They complained about it not being all that great.

The Hex system is a cool idea but the story, characters and world are all woefully underdeveloped (possible exceptions being Raquel and Arnaud, they actually had a good thing going)

plus I didn't like how only Jude could be played on the map and was the only one with tools.

it was a very rushed game
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>>14235691
Is Ash SEABOOK?
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The first Wild Arms on the PSX is the best 2bh
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>>14266647
Emulating Alter Code F right now, it's pretty nice. It's actually quite relaxing, except for the first appearance of the enemy.
I missed one of the people who needed help, still feelsbadman
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>>14266706

fucking red balloons man
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