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Old Thread >>13955016

>How to get into KR and where to start?
https://kamenriderguide.weebly.com
>List of subbed series:
http://tokusubs.wikia.com/wiki/Tokusubs_Wiki
>Download Links
http://pastebin.com/1VUPfkQf
>ETC Links
http://pastebin.com/4M0bNQPT

>Kamen Rider Ghost Episode 22 Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUHW5GFYF-I

Next ep actually looks pretty interesting. We should probably talk about it at some point.
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Thank god the mind control shit is over
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>>13961947

I just hope Makoto can get something fucking accomplished without Takeru saving his ass for the dozenth time.
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>>13961947
>Godai in a fire.gif
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Holy shit. I just watched the episode 49 of W. That ending was just so satisfying. The entire final arc just felt like HAPPENING nonstop, even it'll Utopia was a terrible end boss. I know there's an episode 49,but I'm entirely ok with leaving this as the final episode. and yes, I teared up at the final 2 scenes
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>>13961947
Should've used a webm.
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How do Diend and Knight see out of their helmets?
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>>13962020
Didn't have it before, but now I do. Thanks.
>>13961955
How many times did the Necrom Specter jingle play in show? Once?
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>>13962043
Look closely.

This is actually a way to see what's reused footage from Ryuki and what's original footage in Dragon Knight
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>>13961947
>Onari actually fighting ganma
What have I been missing?
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>>13962056

Onari just wants to be useful and to protect Takeru-dono. Even though he really has no way of being effective, he tries, dammit.
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>>13962069
At least until he steals Alan's spare mega uloader and becomes Kamen Rider Shaman.
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>>13962050
Oh, Knight DOES have eyes. How about that.
What about Diend though?
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>>13962077
Look closely.
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>>13962069
If Onari were to become a rider, what would he be? We've already covered ghosts, specters, and used the word necro. Maybe they could give him a laser weapon and call him Kamen Rider Buster.
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>>13962089
Shaman.
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>>13962089
Some kind of Shaman or Medium could work.
Either that or Akari builds him some cool shit based off of Ghost's driver and he becomes the true artificial rider.
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>tfw Fire Emblem gets a fan translation before the game even comes out in the US

>no rider game has a fan translation

Why live, /krg/?
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Do you guys think Paint Ganma can survive till the end of the series?
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>>13962089
He's a monk. Kamen Rider Monk.
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>>13962114
He transforms with the Krillin eyecon.
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>>13962050
They also made them glow in the bumpers. Never in the actual show though.
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>>13962089
Kamen Rider Exorcist? Maybe Kamen Rider Onmyodo?
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>>13962124
God damn, I love Knight's suit design. Seeing shit like this reminds me how much.
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>>13962124
They glow sometimes, right? I don't really rememeber.
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>>13962131
>Onmyo
I'm all for it.
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>>13962101

I very much sincerely doubt it.

It would be nice though.
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Kamen Rider Bitch
Kamen Rider Pimp
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>>13962101
I'm kind of wondering what the fuck he's supposed to do for the rest of the series. Is he just going to be around? Is he gonna chill at Takeru's place and haunt it or what?
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>>13962145
>Painting ganma
>Your weekly dose of Bob Ross's show
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>>13962153
I would pay P-Bandai level money for a Bob Ross eyecon. what would his jingle be?
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>>13962140
The eyes only glow in one of a few instances, such as when they're traveling to Mirror World. It's just really hard to see in Knight's case since they're so small and blend in with the rest of his helmet, as opposed to Ryuki who has the traditional large bug eyes.
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>>13962142
Yeah same here I'm worried they will kill the poor guy half way through the rest of the show.

>>13962145
I guess he can assist Shibuya and Narita and while there are no Ganmas he can chill with the crew at the temple.
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>>13962167
PAINTING VIEWS THAT PLEASE!
HAPPY LITTLE TREES!
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>>13962167
>Hello, welcome, brush with ease! Joy of Painting happy trees!
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>>13962142
It's gonna be Kyu's roidmude all over again.
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>>13962177
>>13962180
Yes to both.

>And the hoodie would have an afro on it.
Who can I throw money at?
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>>13962180
>>13962177


>>13962187
Throw your money at Toei, if theres enough money thrown they may make it.
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>>13962181
Except more than just a two episode arc, which I'm pretty happy about.
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Also, they really cheaped out on the Ryuki episodes. I know they were able to get multiple Riders out mainly because of Dragon Knight, but for fuck's sake, Darkwing is just a flying Batman symbol.
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>>13962050
>spoiler
Dos the Wing Knight suit not have eyes?
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>>13962190
Would the faceplate look like a paint palette?
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>>13962089
Takeru dies. Onari becomes ghost.

There, I just made the show better.
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>>13962231
Would Onari remember he's dead though?
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>>13962219
It should. If they shared suits between Dragon Knight and the Ryuki episodes of Dickeido, they should be there.

It's just that the Ryuki stock footage is made extra grainy and probably shrunk down a bit, so it looks far less clear. I mean, if you've already watched Ryuki then spotting the footage should be pretty easy (keep in mind that they've been using the same stock fight locations for literally decades)
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>>13962231
Onari can become a rider and his head won't be able to get cucked, what a good deal!
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>>13962131
>>13962097
Takeru has a pink eyecon cover that title already
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>>13962206
whats this about now?
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some anon a couple threads ago asked for this. if you think it's shit, feel free to let me know.
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>>13962264
Can you do one for Gills?
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>>13962277
I was going to say no, then I saw your dubs and felt compelled to do it. Give me a bit and I'll do it.
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>>13962252
What if he became a rider and Himiko became his "main" eyecon, like Takeru and Musashi?
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>>13962283
>Onari's main eyecon
>Anything other than Goemon
Come on, anon.
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>>13962283
I love Ghost's movements when using the Himiko eyecon in the latest Ganbaride games. He's so dainty and graceful.
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>>13962305
Dainty enough to fuck?
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>>13962310
No.
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>>13962098
There's enough information in the one Wikia to at least edit in the discussions between characters in All Kamen Rider Generations at least. If anything I'd love to see the Agito game and Lost Heroes/Ganbaride DS translated, those game have tons of text, and the latter two pretty much require Japanese knowledge to play(Though you can fumble around in Lost Heroes to an extent).
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>>13962310
You tell me
https://youtu.be/euBTXPmOpRQ?t=85
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>>13962343
Ah, so this is why they were so hard to get for a while. One asshole just fucking buys all of them, of course.
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>>13962343
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>>13962343
Did somebody buy a different belt for each Lockseed? That must be a lot of leftover orange padlocks.
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>>13962343
But Gaim was shit
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>>13962377
The one true Onari.
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Is there a bigger jobber than Spectre now?
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>>13962277
there isn't very many high quality Gills photos I could use for reference so here's the best I could do, especially this quick.
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>>13962377
Who's that hiding in the background, shielding themselves from the almighty glow of our true lord and savior, Onari?
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>>13962399
Looks like Makoto, what with that blue jacket and haircut.
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>>13962417
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>>13962419
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>>13962420
>>13962419
>>13962417
>>13962413
It's a bird, it's a plane, IT'S

BATTAMAN!
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>>13962331
I've finished ganbaride ds twice and I don't know a lick of japanese. It's much easier than, say, any given srw: no route splits or anything. The only thing that game needs is a skip button for that inane story. (I don't know the actual story but man, fuck that guy with the handkerchief)
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>>13962399
Looks like both Makoto and Kanon.
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>>13962343
I might understand wanting a driver for each Lockseed, but why the fuck do you need three or four drivers all with the same lock in them? Are you shitting me?
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Holy shit guys I realised something, Igor's Parka Ghosts are Knife, Machinegun and Seiryuto and the first letter of each form name spells "KMS"

Am I too late?
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>>13962535
Toei you cheeky fuckers
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>>13962538
>KMS post resulted in a Kusaka Masato reply
>Kusaka MaSato.
>Kusaka
>Ma
>Sato
>KMS
omg
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>>13962572
>Half Life 3 confirmed
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>>13962572
>>13961670
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So me and my friend are working on a split format podcast - it's about me trying to convince him to become a rider fan and him trying to convince me to become a professional wrestling fan - in reality we both hate the other's interest. I'm getting him started on Ghost which i have enjoyed so far.

Would anybody be interested in listening? https://tugofwarsite.wordpress.com/

I'm also trying to figure out where some rider or wrestling fans would be hiding out that might be interested in listening if anyone has any suggestions...

Did the Ghost episode last week and am now uploading the wrestling one now.
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>>13961947
which karate bugmen has the highest ground
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>>13962703
Kamen Rider Obi-1
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>>13962538
>>13962572
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>>13962670
>. I'm getting him started on Ghost which i have enjoyed so far.
Ghost is complete shite mate.

>I'm also trying to figure out where some rider or wrestling fans would be hiding out
There should be some wrestling threads on /asp/. And you can try places like HJU or rangerboard.
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>>13962670
>I'm also trying to figure out where some rider or wrestling fans would be hiding out that might be interested in listening if anyone has any suggestions...

There are a bunch of us on /wooo/.
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which rider has the best hand motion henshin

I am going for V3 and Agito
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>>13962799
Wizard. It's simple and elegant.
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>New Rider #1 form and Zyuoh Gorilla sre gym buddies that go out, save the world together and then come home and crush puss while being bros
>Ghost is still just a fat nerd poorly trying to be a hero

Sometimes it never works out
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>>13962812
>Specter wants to be buff too but doesn't even have a body to work on
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someone explain this character to me
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>>13962823
I think they didn't really know what to do with him for quite a while. I guess the part where he starts dressing like that was meant to be funny?
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>>13962799
I like Garren's.
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>>13962823
A high school kid that gets whisked into a grand scheme because of circumstances. The Spider Undead turns him into an edgelord who wears a fedora.
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>>13962799
I completely agree, although I'd add Blade, Black and RX as well.
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>>13962392
Before being brainwashed, Spectre had a pretty good track record compared to other secondaries.

As for your question, there's Necrom on the very same show as Baron as another secondary.
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>>13962490
Yeah, it's no problem beating either 1 or 2, it's just that there's some really nice character built for Riders like Decade during the discussions between villains, particularly in 2, even if they're short scenes at best.
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>>13962874
Necrom has only actually lost one fight so far though. The worst jobber in Rider is Birth
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We got movie scenes in the OP now
>New Rider 1 fucking chokeslams a monster
I can't wait
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>>13962898
Birth was not made to battle Greeeds though.
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I'm amazed he can kick that high in that suit
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>>13962394
Thanks anon.
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>>13962944
Is he still the suit actor for his own character?
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>>13962089
Nothin' but a busta, Onari
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>>13962957
I think Jiro is the suit actor for New Rider 1, although I wouldn't be surprised if Fujioka appears in it at some point
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Official MAIN AND FINAL Insert Song Ranking

>GOAT Tier
Believe Yourself
Dead or Alive
Kakusei
Spinning Wheel
Revolution
Full Force
Double Action
Ride the Wind
Giant Step
Don't Lose your Mind
DEEP BREATH
COSMIC MIND

>Good Tier
Take it a try
Cyclone Effect
Lord of Speed
Extreme Dream
Ranbu Escalation
Destiny's Play
Supernova
A Boundless Life
Regret Nothing ~Tighten up~

>Meh Tier
Last Engage
Missing Piece
E-X-A
POWER TO TEARER
UNLIMITED DRIVE

>I don't know if this counts Tier
Wanna be strong
EGO ~Eyes Glazing Over~
People with no name
Treasure Sniper
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>>13962343
>8 fucking Kachidoki's

Nigga why
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>>13962961
If rumors are true he does have a few in-suit scenes, probably just for stuff like bike stunts or the final battle against Ambassador Hell.
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Man that must have hurt a lot
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>>13962988
Ghost has had a lot of ball drestruction
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Man am I crazy or is the fight choreography for Ghost not as good as Drive's? Hell not very good at all..
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I want to fuck this Ganma

>>13963010
I'd say the hand to hand stuff is a little better actually, I really like it
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>>13963010
You're crazy, it's way better.
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>>13963014
>>13963026

I don't know what it is but it looks really sloppy to me, plus Drive had all that cool trapping and grappling stuff.
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>>13963033
I'd say the problem is more with Takeru than the show, he tends to flail around a lot whenever he is using a weapon
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>>13962957
At 70 years old what do you fuckin think?
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>>13963010
Ghost's fight choreography doesn't even stand up to Wizard's, and I'm leaving the CGI parts out since Ghost's is insultingly worse than Drive's.
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I think Kiriko has snapped
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>>13963039
>Stand up to Wizard's
Come on anon, Wizard was some of the best Rider ever had. That's just making an unfair comparison to almost every Rider.
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>>13963040

>I'm not pregnant, I checked desu wa
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>>13963040
It would be cool seeing her in some kind of horror setting.
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>>13963010
You're not crazy. The action in Ghost has been worse than a lot of recent Rider shows. Necrom's suit actor is doing a good job, but Ghost's and Specter's seem to be lazily stringing things together, which is odd as Takaiwa and Watanabe are usually pretty damn good.
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>>13963047
Fair enough, but Ghost feels like it has potential for good choreographed fights if they are not so hellbent on shilling the new eyecon-of-the-week and goddamn sword slashes.
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>>13963038
I mean yeah, he's old. But I don't want to underestimate him.
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>>13963060
It ran out of Eyecons to shill with Sanzo. There's just Grateful, Deep Specter and Mugen Ghost left.
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>>13963056
I think Eitoku is playing Necrom
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>>13963072
He is. Getting a year off where he only played Rider 3 did him a world of good compared to how he was as Baron.
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>>13963060
>potential for good choreographed fights if they are not so hellbent on shilling the new toy-of-the-week and goddamn sword slashes

This applies to nearly every Heisei Rider ever. You either accept it by now or stop watching. In fact Rider 1 coming back is probably the last time we'll be seeing a purely bare knuckle fighter in modern times and they'll probably give him a giant plastic sword anyway.
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>>13963068
I think that awful suit would be rough on even a young strong suit actor.
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>>13963079
I'm find with half of the rider action being CGI shenanigans and the other half being fight chereography, but I just want the latter to at least not be dogshit to the point that it becomes stage-show tier of risk-free fighting.
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This looks cool
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What would be your honest reaction if Toei had the balls to actually kill him off him for good this time? And took it a step forward making it company mandate that he could never return forever?
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>>13963126
As long as it meant that Hongo and Great Leader would fight for only final time, Great Leader getting a Rider form, and Hongo dragging Great Leader to hell after his defeat.
I'd be fine.
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>>13963126

As long as it meant Shocker couldn't be used ever again I'm fine with it

Faggots already have a superior replacement in Foundation X with superior mooks but just keep digging back up more worthless Shocker derivatives.
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>>13963126
Only if the movie returns are so bad that Toei finally cancels the Movie Wars series and sacks Shirakura forever.
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>>13963126
It sets a dangerous precedent to go Old Yeller on Riders after a certain age. Will Rider 2 be next? Will they kill Kuuga off in 20 years? Will we see 70 year old Tsukasa one day die?
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>>13963151
To be fair Tsukasa is a suicidal wreck so that would probably be a fitting end.
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>>13963155
How could anyone be suicidal when they get to eat giant sundaes of their own face all day?
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>>13962961
I figured Jiro would be the actor for Normal 1, I mean fuck they made that bulky suit there's no way Fujioka isn't using it
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>>13963155
How does he survive for another 40+ years without overcoming those issues?
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Should I buy those photobooks of the suits or whatever
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>>13963162
Maybe the diabeetus gets to him.
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>>13963171
Nah, someone else does and scans them for us
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>>13963171
A good chunk of them are in the OP already.
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>>13963166
The universe decided to just keep fucking with him for that long and finally got tired of him
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>>13963177
Yeah but I like having a nice book
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>>13963181
I stand by your preference of getting a hard copy. Those things are nice.
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why is the ps3 tv sound version of BWGenesis more expensive than the ps4 version?
and why cant the OST be on the games be default..?
and are there any diferences between ps3 and ps4 versions?
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>>13963040
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>>13963211
>Literally no ass
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>>13963126
hell they already killed Takumi
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>>13963211
Never liked White on a woman.
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>>13963230
She also has a rectangular body.
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>>13963145
>>13963126
I'm just glad they didn't do another Heisei Showa all riders movie.
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>>13963230
Options
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>>13963287
I thought that gramaphone was an afro for a second.
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>>13963287
AI AMU EIJISON
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>>13963287

>Tesla is a fake and a charlatan, let me tell you why
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>>13963287
Classy Edison.
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>>13963305

>"Not this again."
>The only way to bond with Edison is to make fun of Tesla and his pigeon wife
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Why does practically no one apart from a small number of people here care/like Ghost?
What is it doing wrong, because by all accounts, it's just a standard Rider series that isn't doing anything that differs from the status quo.

Is it the main actor?
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>>13963340
It's Gaimbabbies and Drivebabbies. Anyone who denies it is definitely one or the other.
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>>13963340
I can remember nothing good about the show except for 3 things: the OST; Necrom's suit and its henshin's voice; Onari.
That's how good Ghost is to me.
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>>13963340
>What is it doing wrong, because by all accounts, it's just a standard Rider series that isn't doing anything that differs from the status quo.
That probably makes it super unmemorable for people that watched a lot of Rider already.
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>>13963340
Every Rider since Gaim is unmemorable

For years to come Ghost will only be remembered as the series where Rider 1 died / 45th anniversary
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>>13963340
Because it plays with more drama style writing than we've had in recent years so it offsets all those that came to recently because it doesn't lean as much on anime writing as the last few shows did.
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>>13963359
Speaking of which
OST FUCKING WHEN!?
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>>13963368
>Every Rider since Gaim
So, all of two shows?
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>>13963378
Yes that's every Rider since then
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>>13963371
Mach/Gou is so cute, sadly he was fucked up by writer.
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>>13963410
This meme again.
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>>13963340
>Why does practically no one apart from a small number of people here care/like Ghost?
It's currently airing, and newfags who dont know how this franchise works get surprised that they introduce new toys.

>What is it doing wrong, because by all accounts, it's just a standard Rider series that isn't doing anything that differs from the status quo.
There's nothing incredibly bad about it.

>Is it the main actor?
Definitely a factor, since /krg/ hates any MC that's too different to Godai.
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>>13963450
is it really a meme if it's the truth?
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>>13963380
>Yes that's every Rider since then
>even the ones that don't exist
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>>13963049
That's from the movie she's going to appear in.
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>>13963472
There is nothing incredibly bad about it but there is nothing really good about it either, it's a completely average series
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>>13963472
>/krg/ hates any MC that's too different to Godai
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Mainly since Takeru is Shinji and Godai's love-child and was educated in naivety by Kouta.
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>>13963473
>Muh Gou being fucked by writer.

If anything the writer helped Gou as a Character.
Early Gou:
>Uses a "Mask" to cover the fact that he's tormented by his father's sins.
>Plays the part of a carefree loner who is trying to destroy the Roidmude threat on his own, mainly to prevent his sister from finding out about their father.
>Believes he can achieve this with his superior Driver.

Late Gou at least felt like a character who was real, he fucked up a lot trying to do what he thought was best.
He even realized that Chase was his friend, fought to avenge him, and kept his Signal Bike in order to find a way to revive him.

Gou's Helmet and Mask was meant to represent his "Persona"(Mach Face plate) and his real self/(Black Helmet), with the steam releasing representing Frustration after taking off his mask.
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>>13963172
Perhaps. The Destroyer of Pancreas?
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>>13963534
That's the main problem.
He literally is written with the material for typical MC character, but instead he is there to make the MC look awkward in the core conflict.
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>>13963340
Too many gimmick introduction episodes early on, so it's more difficult to discern the writer's style.
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>>13963545
Drive had Blade's Problem.

Chalice was Blade's Main Character.
Gou's family is Drive's Main Focus.

Shin is just there because someone(Forgot who) wanted a Rider that was a Car and drove a Car.
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>>13963472
>since /krg/ hates any MC that's too different to Godai.

What. Do you actually read these threads as a whole, or were just personally slighted by an opinion you saw here once?
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>>13963340
Based on the actual complaints, it just seems like most people can't stand Takeru, since he's just this hesitant hero with no stand out trait. Although based on last week's episode, maybe he's getting a befriending gimmick, considering how another Ganma ended up helping him.
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>>13963654

Gaim, Kabuto, and Ryuki.

I'm a sucker for multi-rider conflict shows.
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>>13963654
Ask tumblr
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>>13963645
Ghost so far is one of those cases where I like the side characters more than the MC. I don't really feel anything when Takeru goes on about his life burning bright. It feels like his entire character is just going though the motions.

Compare that Gentaro who was so engrossing that I actually felt bummed out alongside him during the episode where he was forced to dress in the standard uniform.
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>>13963340
It's just dull but not as offensively dull as Wizard

Also I honestly don't think Ghost is the most appropriate Rider for Hongo to be interacting with before his potential death / final battle, it should've been a Rider with some history like Decade, or hell even Drive.
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>>13963654
>Wonky ass title

Good one anon.
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>>13963552
Producer Oomori
He wanted cars, and came up with the rough design for Formula before Type Speed

Seriously eliminating Shin, and have Gou, Kiriko, and Chase with some of his plot points will make a much easier show to watch
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>>13963695
Seeing Gou change from his personally during the second half of the actual show to something close to Tomari's passion for justice would've been really interesting.

Also no foreshadowing critical plot points in BD extras, that was so fucking stupid.
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>>13963654
If I cared to put more than 60 seconds worth of effort into this, I'd have used better images, but eh
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>>13963709
I rather have Kiriko holding back Gou by justice, rather than Gou being tormented between meh justice and emotion.
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>>13963162
Satonaka eats Cakeboss's cakes all day and she's not suicidal too
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Anyone know where I can download some of the Kiva songs? I have everything I can find but have no clue where to get stuff like the Love, Emperor and Queen edits for Supernova, This love Never ends and Rainy Rose.
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>>13963709
Eh, he caught some of Tomari's justice
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it's a shame how much better the suit looks in silhouette
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>>13963731
Did you check the "etc links" pastebin?
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>>13963742
unoe.

I always thought Fujioka was wearing some extremely thick jackets.
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>>13963722
> rather than Gou being tormented between meh justice and emotion.

I don't see anything wrong with this. If Gou was the MC and his arc was like this

>enthusiastic show-off but there's clearly some underlying anger issues that reach a boiling point during his 2nd tier upgrade
>Chase's evil arc is over quicker and he's introduced as a reverse on the trope of Secondaries being antagonistic to the Main rider
>the show in general has a theme that fighting for true justice is better than being driven purely by hate, and he realizes this as he discovers that the Roidmude (Chase & Heart in particular) were victimized by Banno just like he and Kiriko were, this prompts him to drop the showboy pretense as develops into a genuine hero
>Final fight is him and Chase being forced to put Heart out of his misery, rather than him trying to fight but then poofing out of sheer exhaustion, the irony being that the final major act of cooperation that Gou and Chase preform together in series is killing someone they don't want to

I really like Tomari's character but the main point of contention in his arc just feels too divorced from the rest of the show and Gou's dynamic with his family is more interesting. Also, Kiriko should be aware that her father was responsible for the Roidmude from the start just to show how she developed differently from Gou and be a bit of a foil to him
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So is Ryuki the season where they really start kicking it off with the CG/special effects?

I don't remember nearly this many in Kuuga or Agito, especially not sparks like everytime they get hit.
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>>13963742
Henshin looks pretty boring
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>>13963630
Yes, and people don't seem to be able to like MCs that are sort of dickish(to the point I've seen people saying Tendou is evil or at least not good), or if he's not hotblooded(check how people hate Wataru and now Takeru).

Of course, I am exaggerating with the Godai thing. I forgot this is /krg/ where people take everything literally.
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(series) (plot device character), (true MC)
W: Shotaro -> Philip
OOO: Eiji -> Ankh
Fourze: Gentaro -> Kengo
Gaim: Kouta -> Mitsuzane, Kaito
Drive: Shinnosuke -> Gou, Chase
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>>13963796
I'm sorry, I know you would prefer a giant rider 1 head falling on him, exploding into millions of pieces and then going through multiple dimensions before flying into hongo's body
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>>13963796

It's Rider 1 man, keep it simple like it's always been. Shame about no mouth guard though.
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>>13963654

Agito, OOO and Blade.
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>>13963333
Quads confirm this
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>>13963886
Even that's better than 'whoosh smoke I'm Kamen Rider wow'

Heisei vs Showa did it a lot better and made it feel a lot more dramatic
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>>13963796

I think it looks awesome.
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>>13963849
Tsukasa seems to strike a good balance with a lot of people. The fact that a lot of people seem to like him and his actor despite the actual show getting a lot of hate is really telling.

I disagree that the reason people hate Takeru and Wataru is due to not being hot-blooded. Godai himself is very calm and mellow a lot of the time and Hibiki doesn't get hate as a character either.

Wataru is just very terribly written character in a terribly written show. Him shouting like a Super Robot MC wouldn't have made him more appealing. Like I said in an earlier post, Takeru's problem is just that there's just no conviction coming from his character. First arc is him being like "I really don't want to die and I guess I'll help people too" and he spent most of this second arc just being juggled between Alain and Makoto's drama. Him directly befriending Ganma is the first interesting thing I've seen him do.
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>>13963888
>keep it simple like it's always been

You've never seen the actual Rider 1 transformation have you
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>>13963014
>Not noticing the David-Bowie-tier bulge
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>>13963794
Pretty much. People may sometimes mock the explosions in Kuuga, but they're still a better sight than a flying virtual dragon.
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>>13963911

I stand by my trips
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>>13963910
Wataru's problem is his timidness is too extreme in comparison to his Kiva personality.

I personally like the dynamic of his personality that, once Fangires appear, he goes from a shut-in weirdo to a Shouichi-esque predator for kaijin.
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>>13963911
That's pretty simple as far as poses go actually, so yeah, he's right.
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>>13963910
>I disagree that the reason people hate Takeru and Wataru is due to not being hot-blooded

I can't speak for Wataru because I haven't seen Kiva, but Takeru was just kind of bland at for the first couple arcs of Ghost. He's getting better now that he has more of a clear direction with his character (he's playing mediator between multiple different sides, bringing together all the Heroic Eyecons, striking a balance between Akari and Onari, trying to resolve Makoto and Alain's conflict, and now getting involved in the whole oncoming war between the Ganma world and the real human world.)

It wasn't that he wasn't hot-blooded, it's that for the start of the series, Takeru wasn't ANYTHING other than "designated protagonist".
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>>13963910
pretty much this. /krg/ (and rider fans on /m/ as a whole) have a soft spot for Tendou and Tsukasa despite being extremely dickish

most Rider MCs aren't even hotblooded, at least in the traditional screaming in your face super robot MC way. The closest we've had to that was what, Gentarou? And he was beloved precisely because he was extremely dissimilar to a lot of Rider MCs and was similar to this idea of a hotblooded simple super robot pilot, and he was written by the guy who did Gurenn Lagann so it makes sense he'd write Gentarou like that.

Who else even is a hotblooded Rider MC? They tend to go for either the brooding MC or the Godai mold
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>>13963938

Shinnosuke got pretty damn hotblooded at times.
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>>13963910
>Takeru's problem is just that there's just no conviction coming from his character.
But that's not really true. Takeru DOES have conviction, he prioritizes everyone else over himself, the flaw of his that other characters all point out to him is that he almost never acts for himself and it's gonna get him killed.

Which it does, twice over now.
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>>13963863
Other way around for W. You know they're trying to make but the entire show about Phillip's mystery making him the absolutely perfect Mcguffin. But it becomes dedicated to Shotaro finding and realising his self worth everything good about W has absolutely nothing to do with Phillip.

Eiji and Ankh are both the main characters because that's how Kobayashi do.

Fourze- Kengo is literally the deus ex machina plot device through out the whole series. "We need something!" "I've developed this!" He's only there to solve problems like a plot device while the entires show mostly revolves around Gentarou making friends.

Gaim doesn't have a main character which is it's greatest problem. It doesn't fucking know who or what to focus on, it just keeps jumping around. You could argue Michy but he has no true motive so yeah no one.

Drive: You're completely fucking right but you forgot Heart.
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>>13963948
>Takeru DOES have conviction, he prioritizes everyone else over himself, the flaw of his that other characters all point out to him is that he almost never acts for himself and it's gonna get him killed.
>Which it does, twice over now.

There's a lot of Riders who have this sort of suicidal commitment to protecting others. Kouta, Kenzaki and Eiji immediately come to mind.
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>>13963945
True.
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>>13963938
Gentaro, but what made his character great was that the show cared to display the effect his actions were having on the school and not just his immediate friends
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>>13963964
With Kenzaki it came from losing his parents in a fire, and blaming himself for it IIRC
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>>13963955
Gaim's story was entirely about Kouta growing into his role as Space Jesus and how everyone else in the main cast matures and moves on from their beginnings as immature dancing teenagers. It doesn't "doesn't fucking know who or what to focus on", its focus is literally showing a bunch of teenagers being forced to confront reality and grow up.
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>>13963945
That's hotheaded not hotblooded
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>>13963970

And for Eiji it was watching a refugee child die in front of him in the middle of a bloody civil war.


Now Kouta on the other hand is just an idiot.
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>>13963964
Yeah but now Takeru's done it twice as much as any other fucking Rider.

I honestly believe each upgrade he get will come from him dying.
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>>13963965
Conceptually I really like the idea of the ending and what the movie was going for but the movie itself was kind of sloppy at parts and shows off some of Inoue's bad habits when it comes to writing. Like most of Inoue works, the ideas are great and if executed properly moments like this would be extremely powerful endings, but the build-up just falls flat.

I also like Ryuki's actual ending, reset ending and all, so maybe I'm not the best judge of good endings though
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>>13963984
>I honestly believe each upgrade he get will come from him dying.

But he's already dead.

>Got Ore soul by being sent back to Earth with a fancy ass new belt by Sage
>Got Boost by basically being recharged by his dad's willpower

And he's going to get Grateful presumably from bonding with all the 15 heroic Eyecons.
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>You're watching your first season of Kamen Rider
>The secondary appears.

How did you react krg?
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>>13963999
>Got Ore after being killed by Ganma
>Got Boost after dying again once the 99 days are up, all it did was give him another
>Will probably get killed or some shit by a stronger Ganma, and then the 15 Parkas will tell him how he's got great potential and the Great Eye will visit him
>After that he somehow dies and loses access to the Grateful Eyecon, and through some sort of personal conviction develops the Mugen Eyecon
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>>13964002
This dude is Bruce Lee as fuck
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>>13963999

>And he's going to get Grateful presumably from bonding with all the 15 heroic Eyecons.
I still don't know how he's gonna get the Grimms and Sanzo. But I guess that after being forced into submission by Alan they're willing to work with anyone.
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>>13964002

My first season was Kuuga, so not really the case.

But still

>mfw Ichijou fucking kills a kaijin on his own, Rider or not
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>>13964002
>watching Ryuki
"this guy they kept showing off in the opening only showed up in the second episode, why the fuck am I following him? They should focus on batman instead."

young me was kind of dumb
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>>13963993
I don't mind what people think of the TV ending either way with one exception - I actually get slightly pissed when people claim the reset ending made the series that lead up to it "pointless". There were countless other loops where they unsuccessfully tried to end the war and the one time they managed to do it because of development through the series is supposed to be meaningless? What the hell?
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>>13964002
>Ryusei's kind of a dick, but he's WACHAA game is strong
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>>13963340
Takeru can be hard to like sometimes, and the writing can be strange occasionally but beyond that it's not that bad, enjoyable even.

As for the 'good' about it, I like Necrom a hell of a lot but I just can't bring myself to see him as cool as some other people seem to, knowing that inside he's the confused, pouty younger prince who doesn't understand basic human concepts. Which is something I love about the character, I think he's extremely fun to watch grow and change, but he's not what I would call cool or badass.

Though he had a moment last episode where he hinted at having some sort of supposedly frightening power, if he showed that off he might start being cool in my books.
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>>13963993
I liked it, but it shares an issue with Project G4 in that it really didn't feel like anything more than a longer, higher budget version of an episode. With Project G4 it didn't really matter so much, because the rest of the movie was executed really well but it's really noticeable in Episode Final. It is a cool thing to watch if you take into account that it's almost certainly one of the the previous time loops that Kanzaki went through, maybe the one directly before the show even.

I will say the Ryuki vs Ryuga fight kicked ass, easily my favourite fight in Ryuki. It's nice seeing Shinji take the lead
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>>13963972
>literally showing a bunch of teenagers being forced to confront reality and grow up.

Alien invasions is not a huge part of reality and growing up. Also Kaito had no fucking motive for anything he did in the series. Literal Shadow the Edgehog "I'll do what I feel like!"

Michy just kept swapping sides and his motivation for doing so was never shown. They make him out to be this cold calculating real villain of the series but he never becomes the real villain and he fucks himself over.

The only other main character is Takatora and despite doing the rider ptsd episode (which is actually one of the only good things in Gaim and should've been saved for much later in the series) is die three times.

Kouta is the second best character (behind Bravo) but he loses his charm before the episode can and the point of the series gets lost in the celestial war bullshit.

Now the main thing with Rider is it is excellent with writing and creating main characters with loveable and believeable motives. Even the over the top ones like Kabuto and Fourze, they back up their character. However the plots are, more often than not, half thought out.
Gaim's biggest problem is that it had good plot twists but absolutely despicable characters that believe they're much hotter shit than they actually are.
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>>13964002
This guy looks pretty strong
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>>13964030

I want them to stop dragging their feet and have Alain turn good already.
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>>13964002
Relief because Kouta being able to transform into superman during a pokemon battle isn't exactly fair
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>>13963671
>I honestly don't think Ghost is the most appropriate Rider for Hongo to be interacting with before his potential death

What are you talking about? He's the most appropriate, because soon they'll both be ghosts.
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>>13964002
>THAT'S NOT GOTOU! RIDER PLOTS ARE BETTER THAN I THOUGHT!
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