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Muv Luv/Schwarzesmarken general: WAKE ME UP INSIDE EDITION!
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Previous thread: >>13905716

>yfw Muv Luv gets delayed again.
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So I started watching Schwarzesmarken. I didn't realize it was part of a franchise. Do I need to watch the other anime to get what's happening?
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>>13953187
Nah.
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>>13953187
The other anime sucks but you should read the VN trilogy sometime.
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>>13953201
>>13953286

Follow-up question: How does SM tie into the rest of the series? Are they part of the same universe like Gundam or are they completely different continuities?
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>>13953633
Same universe, different time.
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>>13953633
Same universe but SM is 20 years before most of the franchise. There is alternate timelines though but don't worry about that.
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https://enty.jp/nullpodesu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQtMEnMbEcE
So are they seriously trying to get this on Steam? Can they do that?
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>>13953689
Will Kouki even know?
Do the nips even know about Steam?
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>>13953729
>Do the nips even know about Steam?
Where have you been?
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>>13953640
Is he still a communist after going through all that?
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I heard you like nurses.
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>>13954490
What am I supposed to see in that pic anon?
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>>13954554
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What do you think the chances of them putting some iteration of ML or SM in the next SRW are?
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>>13955138
Well Demonbane showed VN anime adaptions are fair game I guess
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>>13955138

I thought having an anime adaptation all but guaranteed it.

Well, not accounting for parent company management shennenigans, but I don't think age would hold out on them appearing in SRW. Think of the licensing profits, Kouki could get a new car with it!
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>>13955877
Are you okay?
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>>13955884
Just report his posts.
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>>13954521
I liked the red haired one. She was really nice.
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So I registered for the DMM game but it's not showing under my games but under recently played. Will it not show up their until it's releases?
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>>13957328
Do you get this screen when you try to play?
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>>13957344
Yup, figured that means I'm registered, right?
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>>13957353
You're all set then.
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>>13957361
Now I'll have something to do while waiting for ships to repair/recover in KanColle.
I wonder if you can kill your waifu in this
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>>13957374
please no
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>>13957382
Don't advance on red
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>>13957602
Wait, how the fuck can they survive this long being way above the ground against that many Lasers ?
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>>13957617
Maybe the 666th or some arty were distracting the lasers - Also I think they were using other BETA as cover on their approach prior to this scene, so that explains how they got this close at all.
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>>13957374
you may kill Mikoto.
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>>13958447
no...
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>>13957617
Murrican spirit
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>>13958485
But Tomcats are Iranian.
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>>13958494

SM is set about 10 years before Iran managed to snag that sweet purchase deal. So those are still Burgercats.
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>>13958460
yes.
he/she was disgusting anyway.

>>13958485
> murrican
> spirit
more like whiteto piggu's delusion i would say.
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>80s-early 00s
>giant robots with post-2016 technology
>naming them after real aircraft even though they don't look like the aircraft they're supposed to represent
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>>13953286
>>13953633
>implying Schwarzesmarken is better than Total Eclipse
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>>13958708
>naming them after real aircraft even though they don't look like the aircraft they're supposed to represent
But that's wrong.
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>>13958708
>'Look mom I posted it again!'
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>>13953164
So when do they start charging for BackerKit addons?

The announcements about locking in the original pledge distribution only implied that pledge stuff would be finalized and shipped, but nothing on the backerkit addons.
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>>13959220
On the 9th I think?
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>>13958494
>VF103 markings
>iranian
Do you need glasses?
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>mfw people still can't spell Muv-Luv correctly
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>>13953640
He's a terrorist that comes very close to ruining any chances the world still has.
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>>13960899
>Shiranui 2nd on the front
>No F15
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>>13963070
Just like he ruined Europe's chances:

>ベアトリクス『東ドイツは人類をこの星を救うための実験国家となる。』
>テオドールの解釈は「他者をも巻き込んだ上での究極の自己犠牲」

Beatrix: In order to save humanity and this planet I will make an example in East Germany.
Theo: After you drag the rest of us in it, we're all making the ultimate sacrifice as well.
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>>13962945

Who fucking cares if it's Spider Man, Spiderman or Spider-Man?
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>>13963082

2Jegan4people to make the image, I guess?
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I read the Muvluv trilogy and absolutely loved it, but then I watched Total Eclipse and it was an awful turd. Is Schwarzemarken any better? Does it even compare to alternative?
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>>13963331
>Is Schwarzemarken any better? Does it even compare to alternative?
The anime, no. They simplified many of the characters and made some very questionable changes. It's still miles above TE though.
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>>13963336
What's with all the shitty ML anime? At this pace they'll never be able to adapt the original trilogy without it being horseshit.
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>>13963341
It could've been really good if they just had enough time. Iris and Beatrix got severely shafted because their motives and background would take way too much time to explain. Instead, the anime decides to focus on a less complicated, more straightforward character in Katia.
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>>13963331

>does a 13-episode long anime you can watch in a single sitting compare to a visual novel that is tens of hours long?

I think the answer to that question was obvious.
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>>13963351
Length != Quality.
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>>13963355
With an adaptation it is an important consideration.
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>>13963372
Sure, but I don't know what Schwarzemarken's original length is.
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>>13963374
SM has 9 LNs, 7 in the main series, but the two volumes of Requiem are a requirement to understand Lise, Sylwia, Gretel, and Beatrix (it also reveals that Theo is an extremely unreliable narrator). You also have BiS, which is ongoing, but already on its third volume.

As for the VN, the first is about 20 hours long, with Martyrs probably being close to 40-70.
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>>13963341
Age doesn't have a budget too get good people
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WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>13963512
>Lisefags
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[Ohys-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - 09 (TX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4.torrent
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Hey LNfags, didn't Lise not tell Theo about what she had to do for him, and what Axmann did to her? Here she spills the beans.
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>>13963350
Stop this, anon. Katia is the MC with Theo, she -has- to be prioritized more than every single other girl.
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>>13963512
>>13963520
I feel bad for her.
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>>13964260
>Katia
>MC

>>13964206
She doesn't go into details in the LN IIRC. Just says she has done a lot of things for him.
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>>13964310
I wanna be hugged by a MiG-23 too.
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>>13964318
Yes, she is. Like her or not, she's the main character alongside Theo.
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>>13964347
She's not, don't try to make her up.

I will give you that she has been made into a MC in the anime, yeah. It's absolutely not the case in the LN ( Even Theo is questionable as a MC there )
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>>13964343
Even if Lise is inside the Mig-23?
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>>13964362
No, anon. You were wrong about this on /a/, and you're just as wrong here. Both Theo and Katia are MCs. They are the ones who go through the most growth and development. Neither Iris nor Beatrix are MCs by a long shot, neither one develops significantly (unless you count "I guess I want your dick after all MC-kun" or degenerating into a pathetic mess counts as development).
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>>13963512
>>13963520
Disgusting slut
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>>13953164
Is there a pastebin or something for how to get into this property?
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They slapped her boobs. Bastards!
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>>13964399
And her hair, apparently.
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>>13964406
They hit her so hard that blood came out and soaked her hair.
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>>13964381
Again, I will give you that in the anime.

Not in the LN, and we were talking about the LN ( Actually, the anon you answered to was talking about the differences between the LN and the anime ). Iris and Beatrix have as much development as Katia or Theo ( Jizz, even Sylwia or Gretel have basically as much background as them )
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>>13964500
Hey, I don't know or care what your native language is, but over here we don't use spaces in parentheses.

No, they do not. As I said, Theo and Katia are the ones who much of the story focuses around, and they are the ones who develop. Katia goes from a naive, uncertain girl to one who can lead almost as well as Iris, and Theo overcomes his paranoia and recovers from the trauma the Stasi inflicted on him.
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>>13964514
>Hey, I don't know or care what your native language is, but over here we don't use spaces in parentheses.

Good thing I don't care about your langage as well.

>No, they do not.

Yes, they do.

We can continue on this as much as you like.
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>>13964525
>Good thing I don't care about your lang(u)age as well.
Then why waste your time here?

>Yes, they do.
Uh, no.

>We can continue on this as much as you like.
Not, not especially. Especially since you refused to provide any sort of example and just went "nuh uh".
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>>13964534
>Then why waste your time here?

Well, 4chan is international. If you can't understand that, I don't know what to say.

As much as English can eat shit, they weren't wrong about it : It's the international language, and I can't do anything against that.

>Uh, no.

Uh, yes.

>Especially since you refused to provide any sort of example and just went "nuh uh".

Oh, surely your " Theo and Katia are MC because the story focus around them and they grow up their mind " are really pertinent proofs as well for the entire novel.

So you are basically saying that the other characters ( Which, mind you, I will call MC as well if you say Theo and Katia are MC ) don't evolve during the story, right ? Did you close your eyes during the parts which weren't talking about Theo or Katia ?

I will give you that Beatrix doesn't evolve much, as that's part of her character to stay true to her beliefs. That doesn't mean she is not developed ( The 6th and 7th volumes are basically written for her, as well as a large part of Requiem ). Iris is a little like that too. Except them, the entire cast evolve nearly as much as anyone else through the story ( Annette and Gretel, for ones, grow as much as Theo and Katia, from your point of view on what a MC is, so they should be too ).
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>>13964587
No, 4chan is very much an English-speaker's website. Feel free to go to >>>/int/ for your Chinese needs, I'm sure they have a thread up somewhere. But since you're cracking, I honestly don't care about trying to argue with you right now. You're not worth it all that much to me.

>Oh, surely your " Theo and Katia are MC because the story focus around them and they grow up their mind " are really pertinent proofs as well for the entire novel.
Yes, it is.

>So you are basically saying that the other characters ( Which, mind you, I will call MC as well if you say Theo and Katia are MC ) don't evolve during the story, right ? Did you close your eyes during the parts which weren't talking about Theo or Katia ?
No, I didn't say that. Allow me to formally amend my post.

>and they are the ones who develop the most*
There we have it.

>Except them, the entire cast evolve nearly as much as anyone else through the story ( Annette and Gretel, for ones, grow as much as Theo and Katia, from your point of view on what a MC is, so they should be too ).
No, we don't spend nearly as much time on Annet or Gretel as we do on Theo and Katia, so they don't qualify. Additionally, while Gretel helps out, she is not responsible for helping to shift the story's direction like Katia and Theo do. True, a lot of their circumstances are in the shadow of Iris and Betrix's feud, but that doesn't mean that things like Katia showing up in the first place (and changing everything for Theo), and Theo doing things to assist in the rebellion to get Iris back, are invalidated because of that.

As for a light aside thing, Katia has both the first and last volume covers. That's a right reserved for the main heroine alone.

Now then, I have to go. Feel free to take your time in a response, I likely won't be making one for a while, and /m/ is nice and cozy.
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>>13964625
>No, 4chan is very much an English-speaker's website.

Who said I didn't want to speak/write in English ? Nobody. I just don't care about your native language as much as you do. You were the one to bring it on.

>Now then, I have to go. Feel free to take your time in a response, I likely won't be making one for a while, and /m/ is nice and cozy.

You won't have too, I don't feel like this discussion would be useful either.

I don't need to quote anything else, I would just be repeating myself and I don't really like wasting time like that.
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NaziLise did nothing wrong.
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>Take over base
>Still employ the base's original mechanics because your invasion was too hasty and disorganized to bring your own
>Remind the mechanics that you're torturing their friends and you're probably going to torture them after you get back
>You just gave them every reason to sabotage your TSF and easily kill your ass

Was Lise supposed to sound like a complete idiot here? Her tone and mannerisms say edgelord, but the dialogue says "Hurrrr durrrr"
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>>13964949
Your greentext pretty much summarized soviet states before fall of the wall anon. It worked only because people were too terrified to act. And when they finally acted, stuff like gangrape of czechoslovakia in 1968 happened. So you sat with your mouth shut and hoped to go unnoticed by pretty much everybody.

Source- polack.
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>>13964980
no wonder the commies only lasted 80 something years.
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>>13965059
Funniest thing is this- when they let people simply mind their own minds, as in, no stupid re-distribution ideas or things like that, it pretty much worked perfectly. Only when someone had an idea of indoctrinating people or sending whole national produce of various things due east without pause to think things happened. Day to day life then and now, at least in my homeland, didn't change all that much.
Of course, 21. Century came with it's own changes after only a decade but looking at China one can easily extrapolate how life in modern times communist state would be like.
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>>13964980
Yeah I lived in a communist state and I too remember the daily interrogations and tortures of random people.

Oh wait that shit never happened. At least, not after WWII and definitely not after Stalin died, which is when Schwarzesmarken is supposed to take place.

Not saying commie states were all happiness and sunshine. They were totalitarian states. Life in them sucked. But if you think they were countries of endless suffering and pointless cruelty, you've been brainwashed by American propaganda.

>>13965147
>looking at China one can easily extrapolate how life in modern times communist state would be like.

Not really, almost every commie state had its own brand of communism. Soviet Union was very different than East Germany, and even different than Poland even though geographically they were next to each other. And communist China was nothing like any other communist nation, thanks to Mao who was such a wacko that even Russia tried not to get close to him.
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>>13957374
Don't forget the Monmusu game.
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>>13958494
>>13958541
Jolly Rogers are still an active squad
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>>13964860
no
fuck this slut
she deserves something even worse than getting eaten/raped by BETA
I fucking had a rage seizure when she spils to Theo how "hard" she worked, all for him
I 'd been disgusted to hell and shot her right there
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>>13965254
agreed.

theo needs to off his sister.

at least he also got a taste of those awesome Pham Pham's.

poor iris, getting left behind in the rape-shaped box while everyone else goes to free berlin
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>>13965239
>that chart
USA USA USA
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When can we play Strike Frontier?
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>>13965239

I presume they're also active circa 2000 in MLUL/A when Tomcats have already been retired.

I don't see how them being active or not has anything to do with Iran getting Tomcats, since, ML's slight penchance for portraying the -103 aside, they surely weren't the only US unit using Tomcats.

Unless something in the universe changed last week, and Burger is now slang for Iranians instead of Americans.
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>>13965227
Which part of my
>daily life haven't really changed since wall fall,
as this marks transformation for most people?
Life was decent as long as populus didn't started anything against governing body.

About China, they are good example of, gods, "good" communist state in modern times. That is, they are somewhat functional entity that does not run on pure terror.
Also, vagueness. This is anime thread, ffs.
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>>13963512
>>13963520
>>13964310
holy shit, I never hated a character in this entire franchise more than this whore
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>>13967506
damn it age. damn it Kouki.

why do you sink Lise that low?
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Give me one reason to not sortie in a F-16
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>>13967506
>>13967519
Never forget.
http://pastebin.com/gDuuFrc7

>>13967535
Ammo and fuel, motherfucker, do they have enough?
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>>13967592
glad she got her fucking brains blown off
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>>13963512
>>13963520
And you guys thought sumika was worst

Lise is shit tier now.
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>>13963512
>>13963520
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>>13967592
Fucking stasi, I hoped they all got chomped by the beta.
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>>13967592
Of course F-16s have enough, why wouldn't they?
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>>13963512
>>13963520
I rike it desu
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I wonder if Sumikafag is now going to spam Lise instead.
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>>13967756
you asshole
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>>13967762
He got replaced by Stellaspammer.
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>>13967592
all Lise wanted was to be with Theodore, poor imouto.

fuck Axmann.
fuck stasi.
fuck age for sinking Lise more lower than before.
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So I was debating watching out of morbid curiosity of how the Japanese interpret recent German history post WWII.

Does the great East German clown car make an appearance?
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>>13968433
> At the end of production in 1989, the Trabant delivered 19 kW (26 horsepower) from a 600 cc (37 cu in) displacement. It took 21 seconds to accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) and had a top speed of 100 km/h

gosh, they could have been CHOMPED with that kind of acceleration just try to outrun any BETA's chase.
& who the heck thinking to fit those 2-stroke 2-cylinder into a car was brilliant & call it a day?
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>>13968433
Yes.
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>>13968540
You might think it's a piece of shit now, but imagine waiting 5 years to actually get your hands on one thanks to the GDR's terrible productivity.

The one thing the anime doesn't really convey is how held together by spit and bailing wire everything was.
But then again, most of the story takes place in grey concrete military buildings.

Also while the STASI was undoubtedly an awful pile of scumbags, I've never seen them portrayed as a hybrid of GESTAPO and SS.
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where can i get Chronicles 02 and the english patch? i cannot find it anywhere
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>>13968433
They interpret it with giant robots and loli rape.

So it's how Japan interprets everything else basically.
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>>13968730
> never seen them portrayed as a hybrid of GESTAPO and SS
given they're in BETA timeline, it should be obvious they are such a hybrid.
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Are the Stasi supposed to be more enjoyable than the main characters? Because that's how this is going.
I think I understand why some people might root for the bad guy factions a bit more now.
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>>13969705
Talk about cultural approximation.

I didn't know East Germans did quite as much bowing either.
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>>13971306
There's less bowing in the VN and more general military goofs they probably should've looked up like 'saluting without a cover'.
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>>13971695
Saluting is one of those things I don't give a flying fuck in anime since 99% they do it they do it like retards (or is that how Americans do it).
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>>13971715
Nah, you're supposed to salute with a cover in America too.
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>>13963331
SM anime is bizarre in how much it absolutely skyrockets over the low bar that TE anime set for Muv Luv anime once you get to the second episode.

I can't comment on how much it fucks up adapting the source story, but on its own I find it far better than it has any business being. I was expecting even worse with how the first episode set things up and yet every episode after felt incredibly on point.
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>>13972198
> fucks up adapting the source story
not sure how far, but it was a ok to me so far.
did access few resources, as in PRC tier translation & so far it's acceptable.
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So, seeing as how alternative project seems to ignore the bonus content; is there a translation for the get raped by betas game that is in alternative chronicles 01?
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>>13972198
Absolutely, totally disagree. Might just be because I hate every single character, but SM is one of the worst mecha series I've seen in years.
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>>13972774
Probably because you hate the characters.

I can easily see the show not being enjoyable if you can't put up with jerks, assholes, sociopaths and a naive girl all occupying the same landmass and somehow finding time to make a global crisis play second fiddle to MUH GERMANY power struggles.
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>>13972818
Not that guy but there is something that does not click on me....i guess...yeah it might be the characters. The whole idea is not bad but its the execution trought them that I found it a bit annoying.
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>>13972818
I don't really need likable characters to engage me, so I'm fine with the show.
I feel like everyone being cold, hardasses comes with the fact that they're fucking commies.
The political intrigue is more than enough to hold my attention. Plus it's kind of refreshing to have characters that actually show some military discipline.
It's almost like I'm watching Argevollen again.

The only real problem I have with the show, is how samey the visuals are.
Snow, grey concrete and olive-green uniforms. That's about the color scheme of the entire show.
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>>13972903
>Snow, grey concrete and olive-green uniforms. That's about the color scheme of the entire show.
Is this more to your liking?
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>>13972903
To be fair, have you seen pictures of the soviet union in the 80s. That is pretty accurate, especially in the winter.
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>>13972906
It doesn't even have to be a mech.
Just I don't know, hang up some nice curtains or something. The GDR looks depressing as shit.
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>>13972926
The harping about the Stasi isn't without real world basis, or so I understand.

So it's not like shit was sunshine and rainbows on the East side.
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>>13972931
Bear in mind, the reason Boris Yelstin became disillusioned with communism was the mere sight of fully stocked grocery stores across America. And he was a Russian, so just imagine how horrible conditions must have been in the rest of the USSR.
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>>13972926
>GDR
>Warsaw Pact
>Happy looking
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>>13973048
Germans have a tendency to look at the GDR a little more fondly in retrospect.
They call it Ostalgie. (A portmanteau of east and nostalgia)
I think an average citizen in the GDR was still better off than in most other satellite states of the USSR.

Though given the fact that this is a pretty desperate alternate history, everything goes.
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>>13972926
Take a fucking look at some photos sometime. The GDR was depressing.
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>Warsaw Pact
>Happy looking
whoever thinks this should be shot
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>>13972965
>horrible conditions in the rest of the USSR

They were often enough better than in Russia.
One of the arguments in Russia against the USSR was that most of the other Soviet Republics were freeloaders.
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I came here to kick ass, and chew BETA.
And I'm all outta BETA.
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>>13973206
I did not expect to like the political commissar so much.

Fuck yeah Jeckeln
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>>13963512

Which episode is this from again?
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Episode 9
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This bitch looks like she's been plucked straight from the Taimanin Asagi franchise.
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>>13973218
that's the perk of chichinaishi meganeko: innocence disguise.
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so anyone got the MiG-21 kit? dalong put up its review and it seems to be a really good kit
although it certainly requires plenty of work to make it look like in the show
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>>13974209
yes I build the Mig21 as well as the Mig 21 PF.
Made a small diorama out of it.

Pic related
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>>13974271
oh those look pretty good, care to share some more pics and thoughts on them?
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>>13974286
masking was a pain in the ass. besides that, a good kid as far as I can say.
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>>13974299
Nice work man. Though I can never get over that rhinestone MiG-21 that keeps getting around.
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>>13974299
>jeweled MiG
TRIGGERED
its like it is begging for someone to shoot at it
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>>13973796
She's basically baby smashing Annerose with more sexhair.
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I'm new to the series and only got up to Unlimited. It's not that much different than Extra except you go to military school instead of normal school. When does it get intense?

Also the op looks like it was storyboarded by Obari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7atco94I1h4
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>>13975172
>When does it get intense?
At various points. Alternative is when shit hits the wall.
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>>13975172
>When does it get intense?
The wild ride starts during chapter 6 of Alternative IIRC.
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>>13974209

I'd like a TSF as a model, but the proportions on that one look completely retarded.
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>>13975327
Get a Shiranui then you faggot.
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>>13975342
> Shiranui
> not Fubuki
inb4 trainer TSF, yada yada
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>>13975776

Is it even still in circulation?
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>>13974271
>>13974299
>he thinks nobody can use reverse image search


>>13974286
>>13974311
>>13974381
>actually believing that cuck

https://twitter.com/big_eye123/status/705288371866710016
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>>13975784
Define "circulation"

http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e142724696
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>>13975784
not sure about that, but i would get it if i able to generate more cash than usual, & as well as their availability.
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>>13975815

More casual mainstream, I don't have to climb a mountain, visit a blind hermit, and pay a colony drop to own one.

It's also an assemble-it-yourself figurine, isn't it? Not really up my alley. I like my robots a bit more limber.
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>23,800Yen
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>>13975172
There are some moderately intense moments in Unlimited, but shit just goes wild in Alternative.
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so are they just going to random release keys, or will they give us a date soon?
I mean we're a third into march, they can't possibly hold off much longer
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>>13974209
is it 144 or 100 scale?
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>>13975788
but what if he is the twitter guy?
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>>13977032
Non-scale.
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just got to the diversion part of the sadogashima hive arc


holy fuck
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>>13978695
[gunbuster theme intensifies]
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>>13978952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkbWggwWUUE
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TACHIAGARE
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>>13978695
Every arc after the coup is goddamn hype. No muvluv spinoff can top that.
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>>13979080
>there will never, ever be a better Muv-Luv than MLA, unless they somehow pull a miracle
It's a bit sad to be honest.
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>>13979088
>It's a bit sad to be honest.
why? it just shows that Alternative was outstanding in what it did.
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>>13979100
>why?
It means everything else that will come out afterwards will probably be inferior. That's why I said "a bit" sad.
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>>13979134
We need quantum causality fuckery back. Without that, and Takeru's perspective as an outsider muvluv is just another mecha story.
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>>13979149
What I'd love to read is a Muv-Luv where Alt!Takeru commands a big unit or something. Which is also what I was expecting to see in MLA to be honest.
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>>13979134
MLA has elements of it, but TDA is the better "do not go gentle into that good night" story.
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>>13979182
We might see some of this in TDA.
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>>13979270
I know, but I was talking about some post-Ouka battle where Alt!Takeru is still in that world, commanding a squadron or something during the war to retake Eurasia. I'd give my left kidney for that.
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>>13979263
What happened to the brain in the tube in TDA?
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>>13979283
Takeru gave it a crushing hug.
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>>13979283
Who knows, might still be there.

>>13979287
I read that that was another brain in another hive though.
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>>13979318
>held in some circular construction instead of standard tendrils
>surrounded by what looks like a piece of a building
>Takeru cries after destroying it
Nah senpai.
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>>13979325
For comparison.
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>>13979325
Why would it be in the JFK Hive? And it'd have ended the loop if it was her.
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>>13979352
Because JFK was transporting ~stuff~ from Japan when it was captured. The loop resets with Takeru's death, not Sumika's. All Sumika did was imprint it on the universe, it exists independently from her.
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>>13979352
If that was part of the JFK's top-secret mission it was urgently returning from Japan with, maybe?
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>>13979372
I doubt the brain can survive being unhooked from a reactor, but sure.

>>13979371
The looping stops in MLA when Sumika dies.
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>>13974209
>dat seam in the middle of the face
literally why, not even their old kits are as bad
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>>13979059
KEDAKAKU MAE SADAME WO UKETA SENSHI YO
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>>13979080
I agree but I also enjoyed the coup a lot too, it was fucking great seeing a human vs human conflict before all of the BETA conflicts takeru gets into. Plus Major Walken is best american.
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>>13979080
But the Coup arc was one of the best parts of Alternative. I honestly thought it and the Extra arc were the best parts. Though frankly, I don't get the hype around Alternative in general - I much prefer the spinoffs.
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I've seen Schwarzmarken and I was really surprised by it because I wasn't expecting much. I have instead binged the entire thing to date.

I've watched episode 1 of Total Eclipse, though, and have found it... kind of derivative. Pandering fanservice, lots of pointless nationalistic nods, "it's a school for mecha pilots" premise, and a far less interesting bug war premise rather than the bug war plus the element of the internal politics there is in SM.

Am I being too harsh on it? Does it get better?
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>>13980962
they're both utter shit compared to le source material.
that said, the anime SM is indeed better than anime TE.
also if you aren't entertained by a half american half nipponese TOPPU GUN who's racist against the japanese, you probably don't have a heartbeat.
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>>13980962
>Am I being too harsh on it? Does it get better?

No. TE is shit.

Wait, actually to answer you, it does get better. But it's still globally shit.
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>>13965227
There was only *some* torture you guys. So everything was fine.
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>>13981043
You know full well that's not what he means.
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>>13980970
Haven't got to that bit, just had schoolgirls gettiing eaten.
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>>13981305
you should watch it just for the extremely hilarious attempt at a "racism is wrong" message that only the japanese could write.
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>>13978952
>>13979017
STAND A CHANCE PASTICHE FUCKING WHERE?!
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>>13979524
>The looping stops in MLA when Sumika dies.

Actually the looping already stopped when he fixed her. She already died when Takeru got sent to Extra first time around.
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>>13981692
Not even close.
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>>13979270

He leads his own squad of 00-As against Fagiri in TDA.

Not that he needs them, Kurogane is extremely broken.
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>>13982014
Heh, Kurogane.

But yes, taking down a squad of Rafales using only melee halberds is some next level shit. I want to know if he does it to intimidate or because they just aren't worth the ammo.
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>>13979371
Yeah but after Sumika dies in MLA, Takeru's existence was literally gone.
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btw when will a new episode of SM air again?
every Friday or something?
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>>13983030
Isn't it late night sunday? In JST I mean.
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>>13983197
sunday yep
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>>13982168
the Rafales were fucking scrubs
also, gotta save ammo in a postapocalyptic world for the BETA
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>>13982336
It was gone because he fulfilled the loop exit condition. He actually started disappearing after they fucked.
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Which one is it where they've essentially lost and start killing civilians so the baters can't and they're a p much out of ammo and everything else?
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>>13983197
thanks.
guess it's Monday then, if subs take into the account.
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>>13983882
JST time, yes. For the rest of us, it'd be Sunday 11:00-12:00 EST.
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how are TSF designs compared to mobile suit designs? any better than the other?
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>>13984484
Far weaker weapon wise and maybe armor strength if you count Gundams. Maneuverability wise they are superior if we're talking about early to mid UC.
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>>13984484
Very difficult to compare because muv luv aims for some kind of realism while gundam doesn't give a shit. TSFs are more like something a modern military would use in terms of functionality (comms, sensors, pilot support systems), so they have that going for them.
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>>13985226
kind of explains it, when i was on alt, it didnt even feel like a mecha anime, not even a real robot one.
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>>13983551
>the Rafales were fucking scrubs
In real life too.
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>>13974209
>>13977032
>>13977368

fuck, tell me when it's in 1/144...
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>>13979263
Jaded as fuck Takeru in TDA afte was a killing machine. I have a question though ,so are the rest of the 207th dead or something?
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>>13985284
everyone knows muv luv is a political drama with a romance/sci fi subplot in the background
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>>13985226
No special snowflake weapons too. Pretty much the differences between TSF is just in agility, armor, or reaction time. (And design but it doesn't matter)

My autistic friend who's a gundamfag keeps complaining about how TSF is boring and has no variety unlike gundam.
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>>13986172
TSFs suffer from sameface pretty fucking badly though.
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>>13986200
And Gundam doesn't? Seems like the only face types in Gundam are mono-eyes, GM visors, and Gundam faces.
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>>13986052
save Meiya, everyone else is gone, there's a pic somewhere of Kurogane holding a bunch of dogtags, probably from the squad
it would also explain his edge
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>>13986210
I can tell a GM Kai and a Jegan apart from a distance. All TSFs look identical.
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>>13986210
I'd hate to be that guy, but you can't point at any of the Throne Gundams and know it's a gundam at first glance.
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>>13986354
Nah
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>>13985464
mmm 1/144 muv luv kits tend to be really shitty
the non scales are muhc better in terms of everything, not to mention they are almost the size of a regular MG gunpla
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>>13986359
Given that they have the chin and dual eyes in a series full of non-conventional-faced mass-productions, the suspicion is there at least.

>>13986354
I find it hard to believe that you can mistake, if we go by your GM Kai/Jegan example, a MiG-21 for a MiG-29.
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>>13986379
In all fairness to that anon, some may think the MiG-21 is a command-type while the MiG-29 is a generic grunt, or at least a non-command successor.
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>>13986354
>All
Even Shiranui and Takemikazuchi didn't look similar at all.
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>>13986413

But they have entirely different shoulder lines, silhouettes, and profile thickness.

That's apparent in the GMKai/Jegan example too. They're far enough apart to belong to different eras of MS design.

I wouldn't blame people for not being able to tell the GM/GM II apart from each other. That's like the Su-27/-37; at least that's legit sameface, though not without reason.

But the GM Kai to the Jegan is like the Su-27 to the -47. You can't miss the differences even if it was just black-and-white lineart.
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>>13986453
They still don't look dissimilar enough to me to be engaging. You've got nothing equivalent to Zeta-era suit design divergence, nor post-Zeon design philosophy.
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>>13986506
They don't need to if they don't have to cater to manchildren.
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>That feel when there's no TSF based on the Su-24 or TSA based on the Su-25
>>
WHEN
THE
FUCK
IS
THE
THUNDERBOLT
GONNA
APPEAR?
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>>13986602
WHO WANTS THE FROGFOOT ANYWAY
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When's Strike Frontier
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>>13986354
I'm not sure how you could mistake an F-4 with a Raptor.
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>>13986607
>>13986602

>When it turns out to be a purchased A-10 with two GsHs and dual-linked chainsaws on each arm
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>>13986602
>no TSF based on the Aardvark
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