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Is G Gundam racist?
It's Japan. Japan is racist. So yes.
>>13569106
to be fair Imagawa wanted to take the piss out of Japan too
Is /m/ Tumblr?
No, people are just overly sensitive pussies
It shows Mexico having the economic and technological power to create this space colony. It's touching that they decided to embrace aspects of their culture in its construction so that they could be reminded of their now desolate homeland.
No, because it's made by a minority.
It's hilarious the kind of shit they could get away with in the 70s, 80s and 90s that we would never ever see in this era.
>>13569203
Now desolate? Lol nigga it was always desolate.
>>13569203
>"What I know of Mexican culture is sombreros and cacti."
There are stereotypical caricatures, but I wouldn't say any neo-nation gets demeaned any more than the others, so I'd say no. Then again my favorite Gundam is the Nobel so I might be biased.
>>13569101
Only mildly.
In the case of Neo-Mexico, they wanted to achieve a look that was immediately identifiable as Mexico. The animators knew about as much of Mexico as most other people. Whether or not bothering to learn anything about a given people is racist is up to the viewer.
Not intentionally
>>13569286
Does the Neo-Sweden colony look like IKEA?
It's the fun kind of racism
>Neo Mexico's fighter was a fugitive criminal who drugged and kidnapped/poisoned his enemies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40SMfuAfhr8
>>13569385
Oh come on, half the other fighters were ridiculous and underhanded.
Look at Neo Italy or jolly old Neo Britain
>>13569286
But seriously though why is a Swedish robot wearing a Japanese school uniform?
And why is a German robot using ninjitsu?
>>13569380
This. It's like Punch Out.
>>13569393
The ninjitsu can be explained by Schwarz being Domon's brother.
>>13569101
Saying that's racist is like saying having a Chinese character wear a Mao suit or eating fried rice is racist. It's not racist at all.
It was obviously to rekindle the PTSDed kids who just finished watching the killfest that was V Gundam, so they needed some lighthearted storytelling and easily identifiable symbols.
>>13569393
Don't you know of German Ninjas.
>>13569393
Have you ever seen a German ninja?
>>13569412
I don't.
That's how good they are.
>>13569413
No, no one has seen them. They are THAT good.
Probably the most racist thing about G Gundam is this random prequel manga that turns Master Asia into a Japanese man piloting a proto-shining gundam.
Thankfully, manga are non-canon, especially in this case.
>>13569407
Pretty sure the original Schwarz was still a ninja and the abilities were kept once he got dg celled.
Yes it is, but that's not the most offensive part of this godawful show. Literally the worst Gundam show.
>>13569467
why? dont people grant visa to athletes to compete in the olympics for their nations? i could see him fighting for neo japan at one point then immigrating to neo hong kong cause fucking Wong offered him backing for the master gundam or some shit.
>>13569393
>tfw no Luchador Gundam
>>13569518
>in today's main event, we have the champion, Roboto Enmascarado Mk. II, face the new upcoming challenger...
>... Rick Diaz!
>>13569393
nobel was supposed to be a japanese gundam sidekick for domon but they decided to make it another nation. also the sailor fuku is from european, japan just adopted it.
the german ninja thing probably alludeing to the whole axis thing, shadow does look like a german trooper.
>>13569518
there was already 2 wrestler robots with bolt and grizzly
>>13569393
>But seriously though why is a Swedish robot wearing a Japanese school uniform?
>Japanese school uniform
>>13569447
They are the Chuck Norris's of ninjas.
FACT: To be a German ninja, you have to be able to count to infinity and beyond backwards, twice.
FACT: German ninjas stop by Jurassic park every week. It's the best way to get the freshest T-rex meat.
>>13569592
>>13569535
It's because both nations like to fuck 13-14 year olds and it makes them bros.
>>13569592
Keeping it retro?
>>13569592
This is the most cringe worthy post i saw today and i've seen some shit.
Everyone in G is a caricature, even Domon, who's stereotypical karate shonen protagonist with a samurai mech.
>>13569592
It's like I'm back in 2002 all over again. Fuck this sucks.
It's the Speedy Gonzales clause. It's not racist if people aren't offended.
Besides, as people here already pointed out even the japanese protagonist is a stereotype. The least stereotypical is probably Allenby (though I guess berserkers did originate somewhere around Sweden so there's that)
>>13569393
>But seriously though why is a Swedish robot wearing a Japanese school uniform?
SWEDEN
YES
No matter what oversensitive babies say, racial and/or ethnic stereotypes aren't automatically racist or bigoted.
Sure, negative stereotypes (e.g. "all niggers are criminals raised by unwed mothers") are, but positive stereotypes (e.g. "black people are great dancers") aren't.
How many actually negative stereotypes were there in G Gundam? Neo-Mexico's tequila and sombrero gimmick was goofy, but it wasn't insulting. Unless you consider goofiness itself insulting, but that just means you're a humorless cunt.
>>13570317
All niggers ARE criminals raised by unwed mothers
>>13570344
And they're really only alright dancers
>>13569101
nope
>>13569248
because it's played like a joke during those times but nowadays everyone is oversensitive
>>13570344
>>13569755
This
>>13570317
> but positive stereotypes aren't
You'll find a lot of people that would argue otherwise, given that positive stereotypes are demeaning in their own way i.e. saying that all black people are good dancers ignores the actual effort put in by many of them to learn to dance and puts an expectation on the rest. It's just kind of silly at the end of the day too.
G Gundam mostly has cultural stereotypes besides, rather than racial ones. It boils countries and cultures down to a handful of famous things and makes them more important than they really are for the sake of a joke. Which is fine, since many of those same countries over-expose those same elements for tourism and economic benefits themselves.
>>13570389
>You'll find a lot of people that would argue otherwise,
I know they would, hence the "oversensitive babies" line.
>>13570389
That makes a lot of sense. Positive stereotypes of white people (that they're smarter and more powerful than anyone else) can be frustrating if you aren't actually smart or powerful. That's why /pol/ is so angry all the time.
>>13569101
Not when Japan wasn't excluded from the caricature.
>>13570407
It takes no more sensitivity to be offended by a positive stereotype than a negative one - just different circumstances.
>>13570407
If you say to an asian kid "hey do this math cause you are asian" that is still offensive despite using a positive stereotype.
Most people don't want to be thought of a just their race but an individual, similar to the type who feel so useless they need to have a trip on an anonymous website
>>13569101
No. It simply exaggerates the aspects of a culture to make it's Gundam recognizable. The gundam pilots hardly fit, or perpetuate, negative stereotypes. And the big bad is Japanese.
>>13569101
Would it be racist for a non-japanese to include ninjas and samurais in their work to represent japan?
>>13570417
>hot headed karate man that onry uses beam katana because muh honorubu
>>13569101
Hats and desert plants are racist now?
>>13570504
Suggesting that peoples can be different and that not everyone on the planet is effectively American is racist in the minds of a certain clique
>>13570317
>positive stereotypes aren't racist
East-Asians do not gain anything from white people making kungfu noises at them.
>>13569518
>tfw we'll never see a luchador Gundam elbow drop an enemy after bouncing off the space ring.
>>13569101
Only white people can be racist, silly.
>>13570485
That's what I meant.
G Gundam is not racist when even the country of origin is not spared from stereotype-fest.
>>13570534
Anyone can be racist irrespective of their race racist-scum !
>>13570521
>AGE finally introduces wrassler gundam
>it's crap because of low range and speed and ends up lasting like three episodes
What a waste.
>>13570541
>G Gundam is not racist when even the country of origin is not spared from stereotype-fest.
Is it really? Shin Nihon is the most normal country in existence. We're not shown any nationalist caricatures, and aside from Domon there isn't anything specifically "Japanese" about its citizens. God Gundam (by the way, Japan gets the GOD Gundam, remember?) has a samurai motif, but only in the subtle Gundam way. It's not Sengoku Astray or anything like that, and most other Gundam units are still samurai-esque. Domon's an immature tsundere, but that's not really a Japanese stereotype outside anime. He's a karate master, but everyone's a martial artist in that series (one of them might be a newtype, too).
>>13570555
Who is the newtype?
>>13569510
Master Asia piloted the Kowloon Gundam, though.
>My country wasn't given a offensive caricature in G Gundam
Why have you forsaken me, Sunrise?
>>13570559
>>13570564
>My country was given a offensive caricature in G Gundam
It's beatufiul. Thank you, Japan.
>>13570443
>different circumstances
But that's the thing?
Negative stereotypes are offensive by default. Positive stereotypes are not offensive by default. They can be warped to be used as an insult, but on its own, they're not offensive. This is not something unique to racial/ethnic stereotypes, any positive attribute can be used as an insult, even though no one would consider the attribute itself offensive.
For example, height. Most people would agree that when it comes to men, being tall is a positive, masculine trait, right? Right. Yet you still have people who make fun of tall people, using insults like lanklet and such.
Or another example, wealth. Wealth is considered a good. If they were given the choice of being poor or wealthy, I'm sure 99.9999% of the world population would choose wealthy. Yet there are cases of rich kids being ostracized by their poorer peers, made fun of for being "rich boys", bullied, etc. But just because you can insult someone by bringing up their wealth doesn't mean being wealthy is considered in any way offensive.
The stereotype that Swedes are a nation of kekolds and that their wives lock them up in their keksheds while they spend their nights with BBC is offensive by default, regardless of context.
The stereotype that British drink warm beer is not offensive by default, but like everything else, it can be warped and used as an insult. But it still doesn't make it an offensive stereotype.
>>13570555
>the most normal country
>in G Gundam, where countries make giant robot windmills and Statue of Liberty cannons
That means precisely nothing
Please do not forget that Domon is a man who can fire Ki blasts and punt skyscrapers because he was trained by an old master in the wilderness. If that isn't an extreme stereotype, I don't know what is
>>13569101
That would make one hell of a buttplug.
>>13570566
How exactly was he a Newtype?Is it because he uses roses as weapons?
>>13570590
>That means precisely nothing
Normal by today standards.
>Please do not forget that Domon is a man who can fire Ki blasts and punt skyscrapers because he was trained by an old master in the wilderness. If that isn't an extreme stereotype, I don't know what is
It's an anime stereotype, not an asian one. I could see it as a point if his best friends weren't karate masters on the same level. SaiSaici is more of a walking stereotype, with his whole "little kid who must inherit the school" schtick.
>>13570584
To be honest that actually does look kinda badass. I'm from Brazil though, and I really wanted some rampagingly stupid amphibious tribal warrior monkey whose pilot kept begging for money. Bonus points if everybody thought he spoke spanish.
>>13570595
He's the only character who uses funnel-type weapons.
>>13570598
>everyone thinks Spanish
>except Portugal who can't understand you
>Portugal's mecha is a Ball because budget
>>13570485
How many times do you think the beam is folded onto itself?
>>13569203
If it was truly an attempt to recreate Mexico by actual mexicans, it'd be shaped like a royal eagle devouring a snake or some shit like that. The Japanese are just racist.
>>13570563
Yes, but that Manga is set before the Gundam Fight he used the Kowloon in, like a good half a dozen Gundam Fights back.
>>13570605
None because it can't melt steel beams.
>>13569518
>Espanto III: My streak shall continue.
>Huracan Ramirez: I will end the myth.
Why are luchadores so fucking badass?
>>13569969
I'm mexican and I find the Tequila Gundam rather badass and awesome. Besides, as many have pointed out in the past, it has the distinction of actually looking like a Gundam instead of a fucking robot abortion like the Mandala Gundam.
>>13570597
>Normal by today standards.
Yeah, I just punched a skyscraper after lunch.
>>13570615
Is there anywhere I could read the manga about Master Asia's past in English?
>>13570598
As a non-Brazilian, I would expect Walter gundam painted like a soccer ball.
>>13570521
Someone motherfucking make an "El Santo" Gundam!
>>13569101
Yeah.
I thought that was obvious.
>>13569300
It seems intentional. It just doesn't seem to be coming from a dark place.
>>13570597
>If his friends weren't karate masters on the same level
But they aren't. Even aside from the fact that Domon beat them all multiple times, none of them demonstrated any superpowers outside of their Gundams the way Domon did unless you count Master Asia and Schwarz as being Domon's friends. And Master Asia being a superman was part of the point
>>13570615
The Shuffle Alliance ghosts made it sound like he was the champion in the only one he participated in
>>13570661
Did you forget about how in their Rank 10 S.Links Domon's friends were able to do their Gundam's finishing moves outside of their Gundams?
>>13570514
Since when has not gaining anything been the same as being discriminated against?
>>13570646
It's not offensive enough! I want something more culturally demeaning!
God damn it, where were you when this happened, Tomino?!
>>13569101
It's not racist if you go after everyone
and before you say "but Japan", reminder that Shining Gundam is literally a robot samurai and Domon spends most of the series as an autist obsessed with martial arts and his duty to the point that he's totally oblivious to everything else
>>13570743
Domon was really the biggest asshole in the show.
Remember when he first met the American representative? He literally jumped into the ring and sucker punched him. Like, what the fuck dude? You've never met the guy before, he's not your nemesis, he didn't fuck your sister, he's literally just a guy competing in the same tournament as you do.
>>13569467
Yamato Gundam is hilarious. It's like someone looked at Shining and thought "that doesn't look nearly japanese enough"
>>13569518
;_;
>>13570814
Best and most courageous.
>>13570514
How about the opportunity of making some silly friends? Bet you never thought of that
>>13570761
>Japanese sucker punching American
Pearl Harbor
>>13569380
This. Lighten up, OP
>>13569101
It stereotypes countries into their most costume-like personas, but even the most ridiculous Gundams look cool as hell and put up a fight.
I mean, Zebra Gundam and Tequila Gundam are ridiculous but I actually dig their designs...
>>13570722
January 1st, 2015. How or why, no one can say, but "it's 2015" is the usual reply.
The good news is that when 2016 rolls along, everything goes back the way it was. The bad news is that there's a whole bunch of other rules and changes that go into effect that year. Life is just one string of banlists.
>>13570586
> Negative stereotypes are offensive by default. Positive stereotypes are not offensive by default. They can be warped to be used as an insult, but on its own, they're not offensive.
To you perhaps, but it isn't true of everyone. If you're Asian and everyone you meet constantly expects you to be good at math and martial arts and you just want to paint and play music or something you can see how it'd be annoying. That isn't someone being a crybaby, it's them getting annoyed at a positive stereotype that's defining them incorrectly in the eyes of people for no real reason. And it's just as bad on the other end. If you are an Asian who really excels at both math and martial arts lots of people might dismiss it as just being something they're genetically or culturally pre-disposed to and that belittles the work that person has put in to be good at those. At no point has it become a compliment or something particularly positive: it's just called a positive stereotype.
>>13571079
>you just want to paint and play music
Those are still asian stereotypes
>>13571087
If they are I've not only not heard of them, I can't find anything on a quick Google that suggests they're particularly pervasive. Regardless, just change for other examples as you see fit in that case.
>>13570598
>>13570736
I imagine a gangling Carnaval-themed mobile suit that fires spectral lasers and launches explosive spheres by kicking them, piloted by a transsexual capoeirista.
>>13569592
>>13571122
Hail Brazil, the new world capital (no wonder feds are shit)
>>13570584
This shit looks straight out of Granzort
>>13571252
It can transform too. I have to buy this figure some time.
>>13571122
That sounds fucking awesome, actually. Good job!
I don't find stereotyping and racism the same. Stereotyping is celebrating strong cultural identity, racism is more denouncing it.
For example, i bet Chelsea Walesa can handle her Vodka well, compared to I wonder how many toilets Neo-Poland paid to pay for Magnat
>>13571107
I don't know about painting, but I've heard of more than one story about seven year old Asian violin prodigies that do nothing but practice all day
>>13569101
Stereotypically yes.
The simplification of ones own race, gender, religion, and/or sexuality, is indeed, bigoted in a way that it spread misconception between people.
>>13571079
SO MUCH THIS
At least Asians are seen as the model minority. Blacks still get shafted by the system. Can't even drive your car without having a cop shoot you.
>>13572047
>rob a gas station
>resist arrest
>get shot
SHEEEEIIIITTTT
>>13570761
At the end he decided that Chibodee was "one of the good guys," whatever that means; so no harm, no foul.
My "boyfriend if the year" moment was when he went off on Rain for letting Allenby get kidnapped.
>>13570627
You just conflated a character with the country he's from. You either have terrible reading comprehension or are just a plain idiot.
>>13569510
Well it is written by a no-name mangaka. Master Asia in the show was also supposedly upset that the Gundam Fights were turning away from martial arts but the main five Gundams in 7th fight are probably even more conventional than the ones we see in the show.
Yes, Russia's Gundam just has a bazooka and France's Gundam has an array of beam cannons mounted on its chest.
>>13572047
The cops will only shoot at you if you give them reason to (robbing a convenient store, wrestling for their gun, charging at them, shooting at them first, etc).
If you don't want the cops shooting at you, don't commit crimes, don't dress and act like gangbangers, and don't glorify criminal behaviour.
G Gundam is racist as fuck and it's hillarious
>>13572816
What are the names of these Gundams?
>>13572860
Russia-Mosk Gundam
France-Eifel Gundam
China-Kouga Gundam
US-Gundam Freedom [not to be confused with Freedom Gundam]
Japan-Yamato Gundam
Im still surprised on how they forced the Indian to be an American manlet.
>>13572886
>>13572816
Gundam Freedom looks awesome, kinda like GunMax from J-Decker.
Anyone got the DG variants and the Shuffle Domein upgrades from the manga? they were pretty cool.
>>13570584
>my country was, but only in spinoff manga that have next to no information
At least it was actually piloted by a kangaroo. Not like we needed to send a human to win.
>>13572896
Reminds me of Dredd a bit
>>13569101
Holy shit, I forgot how fucking hilarious those space colonies were. Even as a kid I wondered what kind of retards would build their colonies like that.
>>13569101
No if anything it's celebrating what makes other cultures unique.
>>13569101
Yes, and it's hilarious.Does it count as racism if you make fun of literally everyone?
>>13573480
>Retards.
You mean geniuses. Didn't you love the Liberty beam cannon?
>>13569592
>>13569592
>The year of our lord, 2015
>A Chuck Norris joke
Have you no fucking shame?
As an Italian man I think the Neros Gundam and the Ferrari Gundam are cool as hell
>>13569531
Underrated post
>>13569592
Ninjas spend most of their time flying, but sometimes they stab.
>>13573951
>tfw tequila gundam hg/damashi never
Its a painful kind of feel
>>13574804
Gotta scratchbuild it yourself, I'm afraid.
There were some ideas on how to make one on the gunpla gen some months ago.
>>13574746
Is that Jeeg?
>>13569101
G Gundam is 80s WWF with robots with dash of Street Fighter.
Hell all it needs is Bobby Heenan & Gorilla Monsoon calling the action.
>Bobby: Do you know the previous design of Neo Mexico had to recalled?
>Gorilla: Oh really?
>Bobby: Yeah, they said they can fit 200 more in a Buick!
>Gorilla: WILL YOU STOP?!
>>13574746
It's a shame the Ferrari Gundam never made it into the actual series. The sporty aesthetic really lives up to its name.
>>13574746
>Ferrari Gundam
>those air vents
>that fucking spoiler
What I want to know about these space colonies in G Gundam is how the hell do they keep an atmosphere and why waste space for shit like a sphinx that does nothing or a rebuilt Mt. Rushmore?
>>13570662
Asia doesn't win the Gundam Fight in that manga, he wasn't even able to make it to it because he had to run off to fight the antagonists. After that he couldn't make it there in time.
>>13575006
Those are called cultural icons anon. They're there because they are valuable symbols.
>>13571032
>Zebra Gundam
Shouldn't that have been named Zulu Gundam?
>>13574746
>Ferrari Gundam
I guess all we need is drive.
>their Gunpla stadium is a soccer stadium
>they are white
>they are bigheaded
>they use warlike grunt units because MUH MALVINAS
Yipes, Build Fighter racism is better than G Gundam.
>>13571122
Zeon don't have beach & bitches.
Deal with it.
>>13575059
Nice GM Sniper, hermanos. But brazilian tactics are way better.
>>13572960
You should've sent an emu.
>>13575837
I think that's forbidden by every convention ever
>people think Japan is the least absurd stereotype in G
>forgetting about 'MURRICA Gundam, which is so relatively not over the top that Americans actually like Maxter and its pilot
And here I thought Japan would be gleeful to make the Yankee Gundam the worst of all of the stereotypes.
>>13569518
Spic please the other Gundam is defeated when you destroy its head, not when you behead it
>>13575866
Sometimes they do show restraint, at least in regards to America. Take the Nintendo franchise Punch-Out, for instance; its NES entry starred an average guy from the Bronx fighting to the top. Heck, none of the American boxers in the series got heavily stereotyped until Super Macho Man got that treatment in the Wii game, and that one was made by a Canadian studio (which balanced things out with Bear Hugger, at that).
>>13574950
>Hell all it needs is Bobby Heenan & Gorilla Monsoon calling the action.
>tfw that will never happen
>>13570610
nigga how tf would a colony of that shape function
>>13576045
Have you SEEN G's colonies?
>>13576045
What do you mean? Asteroids come in all shapes and sizes and they exist just fine.
>>13576045
>function
welcome to G Gundam, please leave that at the door
>>13570661
Before their rematches with Domon they all demonstrate powers in their own ways, some more tangible than others. And they all achieve hyper mode in their machines despite them not being designed to do that at all which makes their ascensions more impressive honestly.
>>13569467
>Thankfully, manga are non-canon
How the fuck does Gundam canon even work?
>>13576190
It doesn't work at all.
>>13569101
I don't understand. What negative stereotype, or stereotype at all, does this suggest about Mexicans for you to consider it racist? Are you somehow implying sombreros aren't Mexican?
>>13575015
because hooves, probably?
though a variant of the gelgoog cannon with the zebra stripes actually gets the zulu nickname.
You know what I love abut that colony?
Someone designed, approved, and built, multi storey cactus buildings
>>13576198
Actually, it does. Quite well even. What most people seem to not realize is that canon isn't synonymous with timeline. All a canon is is a guide for writers and directors for what is and isn't okay to reference in future works. If two separate and contradictory entries are both canon, then either can be referenced by any new work made. Or both if they want. Any contradictions created the viewer simply fills in the gap themselves.
So both Zeta and A New Translation can be canon, because either can lead to at least some of the successive entries. Any inconsistencies you either fill in for yourself or just assume a different timeline as needed.
Gaia Gear isn't and nothing is allowed to reference its events as such (beyond minor name references for fans and such obviously). Anything that wants to build off a non-canon work like Gaia Gear would have to do so as a new canon of its own like Thunderbolt is doing.
>>13569248
It's not hilarious. It's fucking sad. They will crucify you if you wear a sombrero during halloween at certain colleges.
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>Canadians are giant lumberjacks
I'm okay with Japan's stereotype of me
>>13576190
If it's labeled as UC it's not canon, that stands for UnCanon.
>>13576015
>Bobby: There's Tito Santana.
>Gorilla: The Proud rep of Neo Mexico.
>Bobby: Pilot of Gundam Tamale, master of the Flying Jalepeno
>Gorilla: WILL YOU BE SERIOUS, I'LL HAVE YOU REMOVED!
>>13571079
Yeah, nah. As a jew many people around the world assume we are good at making money. There are books in nations with nonexistent jewish populations like korea and japan that teach jewish values to help create wealth. The talmud was a best seller in south korea for this very reason. Do I get offended by this? No, because I know that there is absolutely nothing about my upbringing that makes me predisposed to generate wealth. Jewish values are worth teaching though, so I'm glad others have taken an interest, even if their reasons are somewhat misguided.
It takes a real asshole to get offended by someone else's ignorance. How can you blame someone for stereotyping when they don't have real people around them to learn from?
>>13576452
Didn't care for the actual design, but I was still happy to see us getting represented as something other than nice. And in more than one episode no less.
I don't even know what does this have to do with my country.
G Gundam? racist?
Naaaah
>>13576617
It was a kid's design that won a contest, if I remember right
>>13576617
Can it do Face Open?
>>13576617
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iban_people#Head_Skull
Though no idea how they managed to research that down and/or come to that conclusion. It's rather far from being well-known/stereotypical.
Probably just what >>13576946 said.
Even if it is, is it really that bad?
>>13576564
> Do I get offended by this?
>>13571079
> it isn't true of everybody.
> How can you blame someone for stereotyping when they don't have real people around them to learn from?
Some degree of assumption is always going to color your perception of unknown people or places. Buying in to simplistic stereotypes that Asians are all good at math and bad at driving or that Americans are all fat is just being silly though - especially if you have the capacity to learn or be informed about such matters, which anyone with an internet connection certainly does. It doesn't even require any real effort or knowledge on your part, just that you consciously decide not to let other such common knowledge dictate how and what you think of people or places. You're gonna still be wrong or assumptive at times despite it, but you'll at least be a bit more open about it and almost certainly wrong less often.
The four main non-Japan Gundam fighters actually got off pretty okay.
>Balboa Gundam
>ROCK THE DRAGON-BUTTERFLY Gundam
>MOTHER RUSSIA STRONK Gundam
>En Garde Gundam
Stereotyping a country, racism does not make. It's simplistic and childish, that's why I love it. Everyone knows (or at least should) that it is not a depiction of reality.
>>13571079
If "everyone" you meet expects you to be good at math and martial arts and have a speech impediment then they are fucking idiots and you shouldn't care.
>>13577413
If this were even remotely true, nobody would be stupid and everyone would understand one another. Language is a massive barrier to common knowledge. The internet is full of false information and incorrectly framed ideas. You can't just google something and become a scholar. Things that are normal to us are abstract to others. Your pc agenda requires that you believe people are inherently evil and bigoted. In reality, we can't understand everything. You want to believe that such ignorance is unfathomable, but it is perfectly normal and understandable. Every day, people make decisions knowing they can be wrong. People have to try, you can't get through life saying I don't know.
>>13581996
> If this were even remotely true, nobody would be stupid and everyone would understand one another
Not really. Assuming that other people aren't the way media or common knowledge paints them in broad pictures doesn't mean that you're going to have a perfect view of the world or actually understand anything about another person - only that you won't be taking some stereotypes as gospel.
> The internet is full of false information and incorrectly framed ideas
Yup - but with even the slightest bit of effort you can find enough evidence, both statistical and personal of people running against type to know that stereotypes are mostly pointless.
> Your pc agenda
Saying that stereotypes are silly and people have the means to realize this is an agenda now?
> requires that you believe people are inherently evil and bigoted
That's a hell of a leap, though I'm sure you'll be glad to tell me how.
> In reality, we can't understand everything
No, but that doesn't mean we can't try to understand some things.
> You want to believe that such ignorance is unfathomable
No, I want to believe that it's unnecessary and perhaps even inexcusable when the means to realizing simple racial stereotypes are false are so easy to access for a given subset of people (people with open internet access).
> you can't get through life saying I don't know
Never said you would have to. Or even really talked about anything like this. Literally all I said was that disproving racial stereotypes is so easy that it's trivial. And also that it wasn't any kind of means to perfect understanding and everyone would still have a shit load of assumptions coloring their views on things.
>>13574746
Ferarri Gundam is so beautiful, takes the best of the Zanscare suit shapes, gives a glossy red paint job, and adds a head that isn't ugly
>>13574953
They're all fan designs I think. Which is why you have the simple versions of them in thumbnails and then the professional cleaned up versions taking up most of the page. It's a great design, but because it's a fan submission (and because it uses a trademarked name) they'd never have been able to use it legally.
>>13576514
>Gundam Tamale
The most delicious Gundam of them all
>>13582043
Please read
>>13581971
>>13581982
>>13574746
>ferrai gundam
The decals should be taken out so this gundam can be put in a game asap.
>>13582138
Notice that the topic of this line of conversation was racial stereotyping and not cultural? Notice that I specifically said racial several times? There's a reason for that.
Also, if everyone is doing it it's kind of hard to escape. It's an unrealistic expectation, but exaggerated to illustrate a point of why someone might get annoyed about it.
>>13582043
You admit that the internet is full of shitty information, but insist that someone can educate themselves properly with it. If this was truly the case, there wouldn't be human error.
When you cut up quotes you destroy meaning. You suggested that stereotypes are so easy to circumvent that nobody should stereotype, yet so many continue to do so. How do you not have a pc agenda? Education is so simple that it couldn't be work ethic, so what else would motivate someone to stereotype? Hatred. Remember, the basis of your argument earlier was that these stereotypes and misunderstandings are offensive and belittling to you. You're suggesting that we thoroughly waste our time and energy on something that instincts accommodate for with reasonable accuracy because someone might get their sensitivities triggered due to the fact they can't fathom someone who doesn't understand them. You don't disprove a stereotype. Stereotypes become so because they are mostly true. That's what a generalization is. People make them instead of treating everyone like a special snowflake. If you offend yourself from others not caring enough about you enough to investigate further, then you're not cut out for this world.
With some of the threads here lately I feel like we're getting raided by reddit via /v/. I've never seen such immature posts before.
>>13576471
i like you
>>13577508
I will always love how they handled my contry just for Croket ALONE!
>>13570555
>by the way, Japan gets the GOD Gundam, remember?
Yes, because it's the antithesis of the DEVIL Gundam. WHICH THEY CREATED.
Saying Japan got off lightly in G is kind of hard to do when you remember they made the fucking Devil.
>>13569101
Depends on which definition of racism you want to use. If you're asking if it relies heavily on ethnic stereotypes that some groups may find offensive for humor, then yes it is.
If you mean it reflects an actual strong bias against other ethnic groups, not really.
If you mean the sociological definition most commonly used (entrenched systematic and structural bias stemming from historical oppression) the term doesn't really apply to Japan in the same way that it does to a European country or America, perhaps with the exception of Koreans, Chinese, Ainu, and Ryukyuans.
