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We need a new thread.

All 3 episodes are out, but no subs.

Apparently, this project existed to see how viable an actual Cyborg 009 or Devilman anime would be in this day and age.

The OVA sold 2379 copies on its first week so far (BD, Limited BD, DVD of Vol.1 combined). Reception in the theatres garnered 3.88/5 at Yahoo movies.

This seems good enough, so we'll just have to wait and see if they come up with individual projects in the years to come.
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I don't think those after credits scenes are sequel hooks at all. It feels more like a fan service in a "the story will be continued" kinda of way. Especially in how both are tied to the series's endings. And we already had a pretty nice adaptation of Underground Empire of Yomi in the Cyborg 009 2001 series.
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>>13527601
Ryo casually hacking the shit of Black Ghost made me smile.

Any stitch of Satan in the Opening?

>>13527969
It's fairly depressing as sequel hooks considering how their series end.
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>>13527601
What the hell is with Ryo?
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>>13527969
>I don't think those after credits scenes are sequel hooks at all.
I never said anything about sequel hooks.

I said new Cyborg 009 or new Devilman, which is way more likely.

Sequels are never a good idea.
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I would like to think that this is also cheap way for bandai to get licenses of both devilman and cyborg 009, hell there are so many passing by character that could fill an entire new line of figures
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>>13528448
And yet they're only making Figuarts ZEROs.

Fuck my life.
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>>13528501
>figuarts zero
i'm still mad
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>>13527283
That girl has a good head on her shoulders.
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>>13528569
anon pls, is still too soon
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>>13528256

I would not mind a new Devilman series in this style. As for 009, only if they would adapt stories that didn't made it to the 2001 series.
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>>13528256
It's not like Dynamic can afford enough money to do sequels anyway (well, aside from the Mazinkaiser movie).
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>>13528569
At least in this Universe they're alive and happy toghether... right?
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>>13528746
Sounds like head canon to me.
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The main cast being redesigned while a lot of the side characters and minor characters are full-on Nagai or Ishinomori is really, really strange to me.

But, otherwise, it's pretty fun so far. I'm about half-way through the first episode. I'm digging the OST though. And that Jinmen scene was pretty good.
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>>13528801
>I'm digging the OST
Find a tracklist, post it here, I'll bring the OST.
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>>13528755
Carlos, you motherfucker.
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anyone known to be subbing this?
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>>13529129

Not so far. I'm a bit worried, if it was a TV series, chances would be better. But I doubt that many groups are even aware of this.
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>>13527994
yo
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>>13529416
Thank you.
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>>13528746
Only one Miki will be happy with it's Amon. Either she dies or Akira dies. They aren't compatible.
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>>13529416
mai waifu
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>>13529416
Nice job, Satan looks great considering the fuss Ryo's design itself caused
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>>13528733
The Mazinkaiser movie was a remake of the old anyway and its plot was standalone.
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>>13527969
Well technically the ending of 009 would be God's War, leaving aside any arguments about the Onodera version for here.

Thing is, Jun Kawagoe seems to prefer Yomi as the original end spot going by how the 2001 series ended, minus the God's War stuff in its own bubble. Then there's what was said about how the OVA takes place before Yomi and Armageddon.
So while a lot of fan reviews wanted a direct sequel, I don't think it's feasible in actually seeing the end scenes. More likely, a new adaptation of either property, hopefully.
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>>13528448
Man I'd wish.

Too bad for right now it's only a ZERO of Devilman and 009. Would want a 0015 desu.
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>>13530641
Onodera's ending is the official one, Jun Kawagoe's Yomi is the preferred one.

He also ended it that way in the 2001 series.

>I don't think it's feasible
It is feasible, but the problem is that sequels are almost never a good idea, because viewers assume they have to watch the first "season" before they can watch the "second" and this already leaves out a lot of potential customers.

If they do make a sequel to this, then they need to present it as something standalone.
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>>13530631
Ryo's design looks like how Ryo used to look in the beginning of the devilman before Nagai changed him to a woman's head inserted in a man's body.

I thought that was when he decided Ryo wasn't a game or maybe it's purposeful he's slowly transitioning into Satan.
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>>13527969
>It feels more like a fan service in a "the story will be continued" kinda of way
Haven't seen this yet, but is it similar to how the Skullman anime ended?
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>>13530760
Yeah, I could see them maybe wanting to show how different the Ryo and Satan identities are.
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>>13531123
It sets up the Armageddon of Devilman, with Psycho Jenny observing Ryo in his apartment and presumably going to re-awaken his memories soon.

Then on the Cyborg 009 side, 001 reports of a "Demon god", and we see Skull with the Generalissimo statue symbolic of the Yomi arc. The cyborgs all go back into action with their Super guns, and it ends. It seems like what the 2001 anime did with the last "God's War" episode, showing them ready to go into battle and leaving us with a message that their fight will go on.
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>>13530760
Ryo started to look girly before volume 1 ended. The infamous my father is dead meme was made during Ryo's manly phase so fans tend to think he looks like that for the entire manga
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>>13531358
He still looked somewhat like a man until volume 2, by volume 3, he looked far more like a girl than Miki with his thousands of eyelashes and delicate features.

He looked pretty manly in the first volume, in particular.
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>>13529416
i made more, do ep 2 tommorow
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>>13533286
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>>13533290
Just screen caps now
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>>13533307
Helena is top tier waifu material
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>>13533328
For anyone who doesn't know, the guy with the knife is Dosu-Roku, a secondary character from the original Devilman the blonde kid is Ken, who appeared briefly in the first and second volumes.
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>>13533337
Re: 002 cameo
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>>13533341
Honey Kisaragi cameo
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>>13533346
Plant chicks named lilith, some fans seem to think she's a remake of Lafleur from the toei show personally i think she's based closer to Welvath from the manga.
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>>13533358
Manticore looking guy is named Pazuzu
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>>13533386
Fuck knows what these geeks are named
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>>13533389
Devilman's physique changes loads throughout the ova, sometimes buff as fuck, other times really skinny
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>>13533398
Has anyone taken notice just how amazing his death is? Akira cuts off his snake dick, Pazuzu reels in pain, Akira kicks him and he drops his decapitated cock off a cliff. Pazuzu fumbles trying to get it only to slip off the cliff as he does so. Before falling Akira tears off his wings, then slices though his body mid air.

fukin metal.
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>>13533406
How edgy
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>>13533521
more like ledgy
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>>13533358
Hopefully we'll know her inspo if they say it in the blu ray art book. Otherwise they just could have had the monster designer just come up with anything.
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>>13527283

A succesfull experiment considering that the only flaw is that it leave you wanting for more.
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>>13533386
They got Pazuzu's design right.

"Pazuzu is often depicted as a combination of diverse animal and human parts. He has the body of a man, the head of a lion or dog, talons of an eagle, two pairs of wings, a scorpion's tail, and a serpentine penis."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazuzu
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Devilman vs Pazuzu fight

https://my.mixtape.moe/ipzfmj.webm
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>tfw this miki will eventually die if they actually do a sequel
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>>13535200
as will Akira, 009, and 002
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>>13535369
technically none of those characters die

technically neither does miki
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Man, I can't believe no one is interested in translating this. I'm really excited about this and can't wait to watch. Just why?
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>>13536817
Just watch it then.

You don't need subs if you're familiar with the Cyborg 009 or Devilman manga.
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>>13536825

But I have no idea who are these new characters.
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>>13536847
high teen cyborgs
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>>13536987

And what's this supposed to mean?
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>>13536998
they're cyborgs made after 0013

hence, high teen.
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>>13537002

Is it a “sequel” to the original series? Or a completely stand-alone one-off?
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>>13537660
For Cyborg 009, it takes place before the Yomi arc and after the Mythos arc.

For Devilman, it takes place just after Jinmen.
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How do you experience 009? Which series? Or which manga?
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>>13537823

There's only one manga. 18 out 36 volumes are translated. Both 1968 and 1979 series are only partially translated. 2001 series has a english dub. They're all standalone titles that do not require you to know the other series' stories.
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>>13535369
and 003 will get her eyes ripped out but that's beyond the point since miki's death is a little too gruesome for these "tamer" OVAs.
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I thought it was pretty good. Could've been a bit better with balancing the screentime between the two casts, though- definitely was more of a Cyborg OVA. Noticed that the Devilman-centric scenes were a lot better animated.

That fucking post-credits though. Wonder if there's going to be a sequel or not.

>>13536817
Honestly, you can /generally/ infer what's being said even if you have sub-/a/ tier knowledge of moonspeak. Helps to at least be passingly familiar with the source materials as well.
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>>13533307
It's like Grendizer children meat shield all over again. How often does Nagai use this?

>>13533286
Why does she thinks she could safely get her brother back by offering him to a GOD DAMN demon? Or is this an allusion to how Eve fall to the temptation of the devilish snake and committed a sin?
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>>13538609
I dunno, but I don't understand why more authors don't.

I mean Japs tend to ape shit they like and the hero having to kill a civilian meatshield is something I'd expect Urobuchi to love
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>>13538609
Probably what you say, that, and she seems to be fall right in line with the type of Ishinomori heroines who are innocent older sisters looking out for their younger brothers in any way and who die horribly
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>>13538609
Mazinger did it too.
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>>13538334
How is the interaction between the two casts?
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>>13539091
Well let's look at it
009 and Devilman get the most interaction and do the most together.
Ryo and 003 really briefly meet in episode 2, and then Ryo says bye to the cyborgs at the end.
Miki only ever interacts with Eva and gets to be protected by Ryo.
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>>13539091
A bit poor, honestly. It's more of a Cyborg OVA that guest stars Devilman characters. The two casts don't really interact that much either- most of it is 009 and Akira.
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Prologue was cute
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I watched about half of Demon Bird the other day. How the fuck did they make Jinmen even more unnerving?

>>13546668
I would give my left nut for a full Devilman OVA done in that style. I really dug how it looked like the manga chapter brought to life.
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>>13546668
This was all well and good, but so impressed was he by Amon that the prince vowed to become a Devil himself one day. But was that really such a good idea?
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>>13527283

How and what previous knowledge do I need to have in order to watch this?
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>>13547266
If you read/watched anything related to Devilman or Cyborg 009 you're fine.
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>>13547266
10 volumes of Cyborg 009
All 5 volumes of Devilman

so that you can know approximately when this OVA takes place on each manga's timeline.

I do suggest manga over anime for both, because Cyborg 009 for example is using characters from the manga. For example, Helena in the manga was replaced by Artemis in the 2001 anime so as not to confuse her with Helen. In the manga, Helena look exactly like Helen, and that one has like 4 sisters that also look like her. Their arc also takes place just after the one Helena's in. (Ishinomori switched magazines and ignored the events of the last mag he was in).
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And here's how Artemis looks like. She was the replacement for Helena in the 2001 anime.
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>>13547672
huh
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>>13547417
The light novel for the ova is also supposed to help explain some things more, but no one's /r/ translation.
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>>13533341
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I wonder if we'll ever get a Jack guest appearance in a dynamic pro anime.

The food stand version of him in the RGZ finale doesn't count.
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