>2015
>Still no sign of S2
Nigga what
>>12395627
It was canceled. There'll be just a book now.
>>12395627
Yoko was the only reason to watch this anyway.
>>12395627
you better buy and read the book
>>12395627
What is the name of this semen demon?
>>12395796
>Semen Demon
She looks more like a Spunk Punk to me
Where would one go with a S2? I mean yeah you can just do more SoL, but that's the only option because the conflict on earth is gone.
>>12395796
Bellows
>>12395823
I think she looks like a fluid wizard
Gargantia was a glorious /m/ show that we all watched for the good mechanical design and exciting mecha combat.
>>12395859
I haven't yet but now I know what I'm gonna do next
The drama was intense, the world building was intelligent, and the conflict between the factions was highly thought provoking.
Is the Final8 BD release any good?
I still don't understand how Urobuchi said the central theme is a parallel to the job market.
I keep looking over it but I just don't see it. If he said it's about how if mutual coexistence is possibile one should seek it, then yes I can see that. If it was about self-determination and not just blindly being part of a utilitarian systme, then yes I definitely see it.
But the job market?
>>12395859
>>12395868
God I hated this scene. It felt so pointless and it was so long.
>one of the highest paid and most talented hentai artists designed the characters
>ironically, now we'll never see them in doujins by him as a result
The most important part of this show was the deep allegories and life lessons that related to the average viewer.
>>12395878
The point of the scene was the converstaion with Pinion. Amy was just there because it made Ledo realize he's attracted to her.
>>12395872
Apparently, it's about NEETs having to be broken out of their shells and get hired in order to receive livelihood.
>>12395895
But Ledo was in a system that didn't require that. He did his job, he was given his compensation for it.
Don't get me wrong, the Galactic Alliance was shitty, but the system worked.
Let's talk about the best character, the one who reached maximum broverload by the end.
>>12395890
>That twitching
Haha, it's kinda funny.
>>12395930
Isn't it called twerk?
>>12395627
I heard this show is basically libertarian propaganda, is that true?
>>12395894
It makes me think that certain people probably wouldn't have hated on G-Reco if it had dancing naked girls. For the people that don't pay attention to conversations, something else to hold their attention.
I believe King Gainer actually does have this, come to think of it.
>>12395945
I don't know man, looks like just a chinese cartoon about fanservise and ocasional robutts
>>12395859
>>12395868
>>12395890
As opposed to Gundam, Evangelion and Macross who feature nothing of the same amirite
>>12395945
I don't see how. Sure the main character learns to choose what to do with his own life, but that isn't exactly libertarianism when his old life was living in a eugenics-based Forever War society where even the right to reproduce is not given until after you've spent years killing the enemy, assuming you survive.
>>12395901
Chamber did everything right.
>>12395976
Except those first times of him trying to be a forklift/grill.
It was a learning process.
>>12395945
Nah. The message of the anime is one about debuting into society (japanese code for growing the fuck up)
Let us not forget the nuanced character development.
>>12395983
That message is kinda lost when the audience are adult, they already grew up. They just never did so with the rest of the world, it's too late now.
>>12395859
>>12395868
>>12395890
>>12395992
I love how your bitching takes longer than the single scene in the anime that you're bitching about.
>>12395995
No, it's a message for young adults coming out of school and not having a set place in life.
>>12395998
>No, it's a message for young adults coming out of school and not having a set place in life.
Well yeah, no one does. This isn't, ironically, the world Ledo used to live in. If your future isn't being determined for you by others, then of course you don't have a set place in life.
No one has their shit together at 25, after all.
>>12395998
I love how you think I'm bitching.
Also the message is for young Japanese men that vaginas may seem scary, women are really humans too. It's a deep, deep allegory about the population decline issue in Japan that encourages nationalistic young men to bravely overcome their social phobias and selfishness in order to raise a large family for the Emperor.
>>12395995
>>12395983
There was no message. It was a shit anime that failed everything it set out to accomplish and nobody would have cared about if it didn't have hot girls designed by a well known hentai mangaka.
Maybe you could say the message was "Gen Urobuchi still can't produce a good anime".
And before you mention Madoka, it was only good because of SHAFT, Ume designs, and InuCurry.
>>12396013
>Maybe you could say the message was "Gen Urobuchi still can't produce a good anime".
Well that would be false, because he only wrote the first and last episode and the rest was by other people.
>>12396016
>what is series composition
>>12396013
Madoka was mediocre, as is SHAFT.
>>12396013
>that failed everything it set out to accomplish
But it delivered on Gen trying to say that the outside world isn't scary.
>>12396007
>No one has their shit together at 25, after all.
Keep telling yourself that. There are people with a house, wife and kids that are younger than 25.
>>12396048
>There are people with a house, wife and kids that are younger than 25.
horrible wasting of youth
>>12396012
Hideous cootie monsters are actually women, and he needs to break out of his chamber and do things for himself.
The meaning is so ham handedly obvious that I don't see how people are still not getting it.
>>12396048
Let's see how long that lasts. People who jump into that stage of life that early tend to lack a lot of the experiences that are needed for it.
>>12396061
>Let's see how long that lasts
my grandparents married at 22 and have been all over the world together
its worse our society of extended adolescence where maturity is pushed further and further back meanwhile it used to be you were a man by like 16+ and started taking on real responsibility
>>12395998
>bitching
bruh cool your jets, you're on full fortress defense mode
>>12395879
What if he was to make a spinoff manga focusing in on Ridget and Bellows?
>>12396072
You had to be a man and take responsibility by 16, because the attrition rate by disease and injury was ridiculous.
I mean, let's not put on any nostalgia googles and talk about mythical golden ages or anything.
>>12396072
Isnt it better to have your fun and think about family and shit when your over 30?
When you marry and get kids life is over.
>>12395859
>>12395868
>>12395890
>>12395992
>focusing on the shittiest girl
>muh Amees
>no Bellows or Ridget dancing at all
What a bunch of complete bellends.
>>12395879
You ever heard of Jouji Manabe? The guy did his own series back in the 80s and then decided to make porn out of it. Since it was his own property (as in, 100% his own), he thought it'd be cool. But ahoy, Japan went full retard and he now only does doujins of Dirty Pair and the occasional hentai manga series.
tl;dr manga artists who do porn of their own characters kill their own careers.
>>12395848
Considering the book image posted elsewhere, it seems to be pretty much Gargantia all over again but with a female soldier bonding with a male native.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-04/bandai-visual-planned-gargantia-2nd-season-scrapped-in-favor-of-novel/.86734
>>12396104
I think that dance was supposed to be something girls around Amy's age did. Bellows said she used to dance when she was young in the manga. Ridget wore the outfit when she was drunk off her ass.
>>12396104
>You ever heard of Jouji Manabe
Heard of him? I own physical copies of Ring x Mama.
>Since it was his own property (as in, 100% his own), he thought it'd be cool.
That's the issue, it's HIS property, no one can say no to him. Hanaharu Naruko just designed the characters in this.
>>12396072
Society was also shittier back then and forced you to grow up fast because if you didn't you'd probably die.
Like it or not, but the extended adolescence is proof that current society is prosperous.otherwise it would not be possible.
>>12396122
>That's the issue, it's HIS property, no one can say no to him.
And he was still shunned and practically blacklisted from thereon. Hanaharu would probably get it worse since they're not even his. That was my point.> Ring x Mama
My nigga.
>>12396120
I remember someone posting pages of a manga/doujin with Bellows and Ridget in those outfits. Wish I had saved them.
>>12396061
>implying you're somehow more prepared for it if you wasted all of your 20s living like a big teenager
>>12396099
>Isnt it better to have your fun and think about family and shit when your over 30?
From a biological standpoint? Not at all. You should be having children while you're in your 20s.
>>12396122
>Like it or not, but the extended adolescence is proof that current society is prosperous.otherwise it would not be possible.
That's completely false, though. In America at least, our most prosperous time was during the 1920s - 1970s and people got married a lot earlier then and had more stable families.
>>12396168
>From a biological standpoint? Not at all. You should be having children while you're in your 20s.
A lot of people shouldn't be having children at all.
>>12396168
>1920s
>more stable families
The entire reason we had prohibition was because alcohol was destroying american families with how rampant alcoholism was.
>>12396168
>our most prosperous time was during the 1920s - 1970s
>1920s
See >>12396183
>1930s
Great Depression
>1940s
Half of it the men were off fighting a war
>1950s
Prosperity that existed only because we were the only major industrial power that didn't get blown to shit in said war
>1960s
Debauchery on a level that would make kids today faint
>1970s
Destroyed the concept of the nuclear family because of a bad consumption economy with wages being unable to catch up
>>12396172
>A lot of people shouldn't be having children at all.
The thing, the entirety of the human race should STOP PUTTING ANY PRIORITY ON HAVING CHILDREN, AT ALL
WE CANNOT HANDLE MORE HUMANS
WE WILL DIE
We do not have to breed as much as possible to protect our race from dying to the Lions, Tigers, and Bears
Continued proliferation will actually kill us and is anathema to our continued existence
Combined with the fact that the lowest class of humans are the ones that products the most, and we are actually suffering from anatural selection
That funny feeling when Samuel L Jackson's character from Kingsman was very nearly right.
>>12396168
>if you wasted all of your 20s
You cannot waste life. Regardless of how one uses their years, unless they're a soldier forcibly conscripted or something, it is their choice on how to use it. A "waste" is basically pic related, the words of others who judge how a person should live.
>>12395879
>Jouji Manabe
>>12395868
wow. could they be any whiter
>>12396218
I think that's a shallow understanding of the situation. From a humanist perspective, we SHOULD breed. We should have as many children as we possibly can because we need to extend the human race with maximum genetic variance and enough numbers to avoid total extinction. But that means we need to commit ourselves to inhabiting space and other worlds because that's the only way the human race can sustain itself. But we need to do it before we destroy everything good on Earth and that might actually be impossible but who knows.
>>12396339
someone needs to put a "white people" caption on that gif since I am useless and cannot do it
>>12396218
Depends on the area.
Japan needs babies.
>>12396168
>From a biological standpoint? Not at all. You should be having children while you're in your 20s.
Are you a woman or something? Because that's not true at all.
Men can have children until their fucking 50s and it's problably better doing it older instead of "wasting" your life taking care of fucking children and spending your hard-earned money that you JUST GOT with kids and 1 women when you can have shitton of women with 1/100 of what marriage would cost you.
>>12396396
>But that means we need to commit ourselves to inhabiting space and other worlds because that's the only way the human race can sustain itself
But we will never
Fucking
Do that
We need to stop the lower castes from breeding so we can, at worst, maintain the current population level and minimize the proliferation of the weaker aspects of the human race
We will never get off this earth, we will never come fix any of our current problems
We will destroy the Earth, but the best we can do is control the population so we can prolong that species death as long as possible
>>12396403
So I've heard, but tell me, are they at least maintaining equilibrium?
Or is not j just their population growth but their actual POPULATION declining?
If the latter, hilarious holy shit
>>12396403
That's because the majority of people there are oldfucks and oldfucks don't contribute to anything.
We should already getting ready to go space and colonize stars so we have infinite energy and not worries about "resources" instead of draining the Earth and then spending the resources with wars.
While we can't do that, people shouldn't breed.
>>12396419
>lower castes
You from India or something? Because we don't take that shit seriously at other places of the world.
>>12396418
Older men have have significantly more DNA fragmentation in their sperm and eggs fertilized by them have a higher risk of spontaneous abortion. Not to mention the huge drop in sperm concentration.
>>12396104
I've heard of him, but I never heard this about him doing porn of his own series. Which one was it?
>>12396140
You mean these?
>>12396625
>>12396636
>>12396644
>>12396648
>>12396333
Manabe doesn't even do hardcore anymore, his last two series have been strictly softcore with no option for a tankoubon without lightsaber censorship.
>>12396685
A lot of doujin/eroge have been softening up lately. The super graphic/extreme stuff has largely dried up. I fear for Taimanin Yukikaze.
>>12396445
but seriously it mainly poor and stupid that breed like roaches. Because if people have enough education they understand having a family is fucking expensive and limited your life's choose hence wait until a certain time before having kids. Why do you think it is called "settling down"?
>>12396538
surely it the balance in social and biological of earning enough for a family and having a kid whiles the sperm is still good hence 28-35 seem to be a good age for kids and it give you 7 years to make the big decision in life (assuming you leave higher education at 21)
>>12396571
Outlanders, IIRC.
>>12396625
>>12396636
>>12396644
>>12396648
>>12396656
Thanks, kind anon. Dem Ridgets and Bellows.
>>12396685
>>12396700
Nah, Lilith will never stop on the hardcore, whether in their nukiges or their card game. They might go under like Sogna, but they won't stop doing the kind of material they're famous for in the first place.
>>12396434
If current birthrates hold and do not decline further (note: the birthrates themselves are also in decline) Japans total population will drop by about 30% within the next 40 years.
>>12396898
>Japans total population will drop by about 30%
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I blame dakimakuras.
>>12397052
I blame them having a really poor job market and being far too expensive of a place to live.
If you can barely afford an apartment with your gf/spouse, how are you going to afford kids? Kids are expensive.
>>12397052
they will have to import wonen at this place, or pull a hentai plot tier law to work it out
>>12397130
>having a really poor job market
Not sure if related, but how much true is the downright depressing portrait that Anime/manga/novels/doramas paint of working in Japanese companies?
Like, you go to high shcool and your life is great, college and you have to get that degree just for qualifications that DON'T matter, and you hopefully get employed at BIG MEGA JAPAN CORPORATION where you work 70 hours while being paid for 40 and come home to spouses that aren't expected to work while you literally become a soulless work-drone cog-in-the-system that that has no personality outside of doing work because you have to uphold your honor and support your family that you don't even really know hwy you're supposed to have?
>>12395627
best girl!
>>12397176
Cause if that is true (and it seems like it) it makes so much sense that japanese men would just go "Nopenopenope fuck this I'm out of this system life's too short to hate it Im'ma play some Video games and watch anime".
>>12395851
>not fluid druid
>>12397176
It was certainly true in the 80s.
You got paid a lot more back then though.
>>12396700
It's cause the government is cracking down on that stuff. They're kind of piss Japan got a rep from other countries as wacky sex crazed porn land.
>>12397247
I miss the days when it was Germany that was seen as that.
>>12397247
Then why don't they take care of the ROOT, not the symptoms?
Saying NO PRON 4 U is not going to change the fact that a large portion of japan is really sexually frustrated and has no release
>>12397269
Because that would involve societal change, and japan doesn't like change.
>>12397269
Because that would require more change than just denying people stuff. And Japan can't have that.
>>12396700
Japan is cracking down. They're trying to fix their image before the 2020 Olympics happen and thousands of sports fans arrive and while sampling the local culture see a doujin about futa monster girls taking a dump from every orifice on some dude.
Some of the shops in Akiba are already shut down, only the big ones like Mandarake, White Canvas and Melonbooks are able to weather the storm. Even Nakano is getting kind of cagey about the porn.
Where were you when the pornpocalypse happened? When Japan had to clean up their image to become mainstream?
Spoiler: if you can't find gross porn in Akiba, check Ikebukuro.
>>12397269
How does one "fix" problems with sexual frustration?
No really, how do you? I mean generally it's because no one will sleep with you, and what's the solution to that? Well obviously sex, but how do you just divvy that out? Prostitutes are technically illegal, but they have a million and a half ways around that there, so it's not like they can't get that. At the end of the day if the men won't go talk to women, then they'll never meet women, and it's kinda hard to relieve sexual frustration then.
>>12397315
so all we gotta do is bunker up till the olimpics are done and gone?
fuck
>>12397348
Tell girls to lower their standards for just a while. For the good of the nation.
so...
robot girls that you can knock up when
>>12397392
You're underestimating what that could do to a society
>>12397365
Pretty much. It'll be business as usual once the Olympic stuff ends. But that's still five years. In the meantime, there's always Pixiv and Comiket, the doujin market won't completely disappear. I bet self-publishing and e-books are gonna take off during this.
>>12397417
im gonna go by the arm and say some kind of online distribution comiket or some shit
it cant be that hard
>>12397467
>Japan
>new thing
oh yes, it can be that hard
>>12395627
How is it possible to get away with such blatant racism with no repercussions?
>>12397475
not really a bunch of comiket artits post some stuff on pivix or they own webs, its just a stepplus it means more raw doujins geting in our hands
>>12397490
How do you know he's not black and therefore not using it derogatorily? Considering /m/ has a pretty substantial number of black posters and all.
Does that not make YOU the racist for automatically assuming?
>>12397498
I think that may be a big reason why they'd be against it, makes piracy easier.
>>12397475
Nah. Japan adapts quick when there is a perceived need or crisis that demands it. The pornpocalypse could be that crisis.
>no more guest manga by hentai artists like Kensoh Ogawa
;_;
>>12397505
It's still racist when black people use it, white devil. Get off my land.
By the way, why in the world would /m/ have a "substantial number" of black posters? I don't see the logic.
>>12397722
I think he's talking about those collages of /m/ posters' selfies, lots of those guys are black, so an assumption can be made, by extension, that a substantial number of the total posters are also black.
>>12397884
As Freud would probably say if he was alive today, "Sometimes a nigger is just a nigger."
>>12397963
>>12397884
>>12397722
>>12397712
Yall niggas are trippin. We're just not getting a S2 because IG just wants to spend the money on GitS Arise instead.
>>12395627
I thought they were going to do it though? Like, last I heard the OVA and series itself did well enough to pull it off.
>>12395901
>>12395976
Hell yeah.
>>12395981
He kind of failed his first attempt to catch fish, but made up for it with a ridiculous success the second time.
Honestly I'm glad no season 2.
The story resolved. We've seen what happens when they try to force a sequel to resolved plot to bleed more money with stuff like Destiny.
No thanks.
>The story resolved
It does!?
>>12398270
Well, pirate girl gonna pirate, and I think she was still going to do that shit (was she in the epilogue? I can't remember), but aside from that, yeah, what things needed resolved were.
>>12398270
Chamber goes boom, and Striker with it, Ledo settles into life on Gargantia, and the entire war he was in is written off as stupid and something everyone is better off ignoring and focusing on the people left behind.
The story of any substance is done.
Yeah we could have slice of life stuff on Gargantia, or other soldiers still out there fighting their pointless war but that wouldn't be so interesting.
And Chamber coming back, getting Ledo and deciding that actually fighting the war is important after all would be undoing a perfectly good finale to milk the show more in the way of Destiny AO and Evol.
Again. No thanks. I'd rather it remain untainted.
>>12398286
But we didn't get a resolution to the age-old conflict happening 3000 lightyears away.
Truly, the most heinous crime ever.
>>12398300
We kind of it did. It was "That war is now stupid and pointless, and they should have just let the Hildwhatever be. They're no threat to Earth in any way cause they aren't coming back."
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-04/bandai-visual-planned-gargantia-2nd-season-scrapped-in-favor-of-novel/.86734
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-04/bandai-visual-planned-gargantia-2nd-season-scrapped-in-favor-of-novel/.86734
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-04/bandai-visual-planned-gargantia-2nd-season-scrapped-in-favor-of-novel/.86734
This must be how Buddy Complex fans felt when their second season became 2 OVAs.
>>12398333
Nah, the space squid were implied to be just as insane and genocidal as the sci-fi Nazis were.
The squid on earth are harmless just like the humans on earth. Both factions in space are equally as violently insane as the other. Neither is right or wrong, they just cant co-exist.
The war in outer space is 'pointless' true, but its a fact. If they stop fighting, they die. All they can try and do is escape from it, to earth.
>>12398474
It's pointless because they're lightyears away from any civilization and fighting for the sake of fighting. It literally does not matter if either side wins or they both wipe each other out. It won't affect earth in any way.
>>12398297
The slice-of-life stuff was boring as all hell.
The only spinoff of that I'd be willing to watch would bea harem series centering on Pinion.
>>12395872
No, thats not it. Like >>12395859, >>12395868, >>12395890 show, it's about NEETs getting out of their homes and finding PLOT to fix that birth rate issue they seem to be having.
Oh and robots and fishing and MUH NIPPON SEA SUPERIOR, etc.
Pic related is about finding you way in the job market.
>>12397138
>hentai plot tier law
They were the last nation to outlaw cp and no age limit, they will be the first to bring it back.
how this goes over with the 2020 Olympics...lol, the world is going to shit.
>>12397263
I thought that was France? Germany I thought was the heroin capital of the world back then?
>>12397348
Because more than 2 or so decades of promoting neotany and the most unrealistic ideal for women have rendered Japanese men's minds almost more devastated than losing the war ever could have, lets not forget their economy getting ass blasted by crony capitalism. Anon, the Japanese male has come to the realization there is nothing worth giving a shit about anymore.
>>12397378
...my sides, no really.
70 odd years of Westernization has come here to laugh at you.
>>12398300
Ah, but there it is anon. You need no resolution, for the story is continued.
In ever single space opera military science fiction. The conflict introduced in this anime is a staging point, the "problem" that all are familiar with. The rest of the series is the resolution. Peace.
>>12399807
>get offered once in a lifetime opportunity to journey into the unknown of the universe and expand mankind's horizon like never before with a cool as fuck boss
>more like a partner, really
>turn it down because you're "not done exploring the earth yet"
>don't even consider the pissed off people who can still rain death down upon you
That's some pretty shitty job hunting skills.
You know I just realized something about the job market thing.
It makes no sense. Ledo shows up with a super awesome robot that does all his work FOR him, and girls want his dick right away. It's not a good way of saying "the outside world isn't scary" when everything is practically handed to you on a silver platter..
>>12399889
Hey, it's not hard to get sex when the girls have no standards. It's a shitty solution but it is one.
>>12400143
Honestly it was probably a mistranslation. Maybe he said something like "Gargantia is a story about how the job market should be run by robots."
The way to fix sexual frustration is to not be a retard obsessed with sex. Stop being a queer and go watch some slice of life anime or something.
>>12396097
>nostalgia googles
I used to search for old porn that I only ever found in filesharing programs.
>>12400143
IIRC Ledo was not happy that Chamber was doing all the work.
>>12396840
>sogna
i'm glad that i'm not the only one who still knows their holy name.
>>12395848
>conflict on earth is gone
Are you serious? They can have a deal with sea tentacle people and with space tentacle people and with space mecha people that can just pop up like a fucking colony, man. In the end there must be a several couples marriage.
>>12400474
>Pinocchio reference
>LOL USOPP
You could have called it "Yunocchio" instead of that nonsense.
>>12399906
Late response, but did you just not get my evident sarcasm?
>>12400499
I only read One Piece, sorry.
>>12396013
I thought we were discussing Gargantia, not Evangelion.
>>12401011
Ehi... i like it. Can, someones, translate?
>>12401293
Maybe if you ask in proper English. At least master one language before you try and learn more about others.
>>12401011
When did the Valvrave gain so much weight?
>>12400684
That's no excuse since Usopp is a direct reference to Pinocchio and it's a classic piece of literature. You should have at least heard of it unless you're like, 14.
>>12400143
>>12400365
This is the level of critical analysis on /m/. The message was clear. Ledo "graduated" from being a soldier and was thrust into the new life he found on Gargantia. He had trouble finding his niche in his new life and having Chamber baby like an overprotective parent him inhibited his personal growth which is why he began to become dissatisfied with Chamber doing all the work. He learned about friendship, acceptance, various relationships encountered in society and even discovered sexuality. Ledo ultimately learned how to be self-sufficient and to think for himself whereas before he was just going through the motions of his soldier (aka school) life without any real through towards his future. There's even more examples within the story but I haven't seen it since it aired.
>>12401337
Uhm, okey, I do not even know what the fuck you're talking about, but sure. I will.
>>12401011
I bet it has a female Ai.
>>12395795
tell me is going to be translated
>>12401481
Probably not. I think there is a prequel LN that wasn't translated as well.
It's an alternative story with a female Ledo, or a true sequel?
>>12401481
The manga adaptation and Bellows' story have a higher chance of being translated than this, I'm afraid.
>>12395872
Urobuchi has entered the same mindset as Tommino, he just spouts inane bullshit to attract attention, you should just ignore what both say and watch the anime they release and draw you own conclusion
>>12400443
>sogna
damn, even after all these years, the viper chicks make me rock hard
So I get the allegories for the Job market and the outside world and such but doesn't the portrayal of a lot of it do more harm than good?
"Step out of your room, everyone will instantly accept you and love you for who you are, nothing is scary and everyone is endlessly patient with you! Don't forget to impregnate the women on your way in - they're all nubile young sex machines that want your dick, you Just have to talk to them!"
It really, really doesn't work like that. Especially the incentives to raise the birthrates.
>>12401448
You can't expect everyone to get the message when a lot of 4chan suffers from arrested development.myself included
>>12401512
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>12398364
yeah something like that.
>>12399871
Nigga, Germany has been crazy-sex-land since at least 1872.
Munich Postcards and Tahiti Bibles, mane.
>>12396701
you just solved your dilemma india. develop an upwardly mobile society with an emphasis on education and people will have less kids. don't go colonizing moons and shit. i know it's hard right? an educational system? gasp! saving the planet's tough shit
>>12401647
Really, anyone have any thoughts on this? I feel like the more they try to use anime to get otaku to talk to real women, the more thoseOtaku will be disillusioned with the disparity between the real and the ideal
Real women can't live up to the idealized perfection of anime waifus
>>12401647
>>12401929
I didn't initially respond because I considered a stupid post, but since you're obviously serious then here goes.
>everyone will instantly accept you and love you for who you are
>nothing is scary
>everyone is endlessly patient with you!
The exact opposite happened to Ledo. He had to deal with all of those problems.
>Don't forget to impregnate the women on your way in - they're all nubile young sex machines that want your dick, you Just have to talk to them
You just sound frustrated at this point.
>>12401957
>Don't forget to impregnate the women on your way in - they're all nubile young sex machines that want your dick, you Just have to talk to them
That is the case. Isn't it?
I mean, from my experience that is kinda how it is.
>>12401929
Densha Otoko was temporarily more successful at that.
The Hidenori Hara Manga was pretty good too.
>>12401957
>You just sound frustrated at this point
Actually, I should have mentioned that I haven't even seen Gargantia beyond like 4 episodes and I hardly remember them
I am just basing this off of what I have HEARD, so if I'm wrong it's understandable. But I've heard that the idea behind a lot of these anime is to show very appealing young men to the target audience to make them want to go out and get laid, But It seems like it would have the opposite effect of having them escape into the world of waifus with none of the work Or disappointment reality requires
Also, from what I do remember the message is something along the lines of "The world isn't that bad", but I think it's setting people up for failure when - from my perspective - life really fucking sucks. I've gotten by, and I'm not complaining, but if you go through life expecting the world to be anything but cutthroat with you then you've got disappointment coming.
From what I've heard, it seems like Japan would be even worse about it, considering they are around 3rd or 7th for global highest suicide rate. Along with the hell that is the life of a salaryman, it doesn't seem very honest to really upsell that shit
Again, though, I'm not pretending to be an expert. This is all based on secondhand impressions
>>12402070
>idea behind a lot of these anime is to show very appealing young WOMEN* to the target audience
Woops, entirely different meaning there, pretty sure they don't want to kill their birthrates completely
>>12402078
Killing all pregnant women. Prevent overpopulation
>>12402084
I'm not positive that's a problem for Japan though.
>>12402106
Tiny island with many japs. They can't leave because nippon banzi. Purging begins
>>12399980
Well, if you really think about it Expelled is a mockery of the current condition of Japan.
>>12400143
>on a silver platter
Ya see anon, that's the trick. Make them BELIEVE it works that way.
>>12400365
We are not The Culture yet anon.
>>12400582
Lack of sleep causes damage to critical thinking skills.
>>12401026
It's Ledo's white haired mate from the Fleet. Merika or Mureka iirc.
>>12401647
>"Step out of your room, everyone will instantly accept you and love you for who you are, nothing is scary and everyone is endlessly patient with you! Don't forget to impregnate the women on your way in - they're all nubile young sex machines that want your dick, you Just have to talk to them!"
You forgot anon. "For your EMPORER! Banzai Nippon!"
>>12401783
But...they are so, violent.
>>12402106
Never really hear about the abortion rate from there do ya anon?
>>12402178
Is it too high? Because that's kinda weird for me considering I believe abortion to be the one thing this world REALLY needs
>>12402198
...the human race is soooo fucked.
>>12402203
...because we are having TOO MANY FUCKING CHILDREN YOU GODDAMNED INBRED INGRATE
>>12402084
The problem in japan is the birthrate dropping faster than Axis.
It doesn't help that japs are more into digital girlfriends in their phones and 3ds's than trying to get real pussy.
You want to kill nip population even faster?
>>12397467
Online distribution?
Here's what's going to happen. An app is going to be released for the apple and android devices.
It will be THE PLACE to get access to drawn mobile porn.
It wll also tie into the top three websites and have links there.
It will probably decimate the print medium there, but...if we're lucky. We'll get a lot of beyond cheap fat and energy efficient reader medium out of it.
Might even help pc sales as well.
There will be a major social cost however.
That is IF comiket gets shut down.
>>12402244
Kind of a three headed beast.
1.They used to be really heavily into hooking other people up. With that gone you have two people who honestly don"t know how to approach each other and simply give and fall into fantasy into fantasy(men) and manwhores(women).
2.The men don't have any real reason to be a part of society and from what I've gathered the one's that do have no place to go, seeing a how the baby boomers and general oldsters(who're oft times just dumbfucks) have their businesses in a death grip.
And the women who'll help bridge the gap between them by being slightly forward all want the really well off dudes, who're oft out of their league or simply dive head first into their own careers and console themselves with porn and the company of giggolos.
3.There is no life after college there. No media or anything lionizing the small time heroics of the older generation. Just endless escapism back to highschool/college and fantasy lives. Nor is there any alternative sources of revenue outside of a few things.
Didn't make enough money.
I mean I like the character designs and all but even as a going native story it was really weak.
Stop talking about a country that you've never even been to not to mention have never lived in. You don't know anything and everything you're saying is uninformed garble.
The message is kinda broken anyway because Chamber fights his last battle for him.
Unless the message is that parents should sacrifice themselves (just not literally) for their children.
>>12402495
Except I have, I went to college there.
The job market can't be much better now than it was when I was there, especially considering I left right after the global recession hit. And there are a lot of people in that country my age that just don't talk to each other.
>>12402537
The sacrifice of Chamber represents Ledo breaking the final link between himself and his life as a soldier. Chamber literally ejects Ledo out of his old life and into his new one. This represents the final push parents have to make in order for their child to be independent and develop successfully into adulthood.
>>12402549
>Except I have, I went to college there.
Yeah, but you aren't a native and you are experiencing a miniscule population sample in one location. Everything is just baseless conjecture.
>>12402635
I can't help but feel like that subtlely condemns working for the military.
I mean what's wrong with that? You do as you're told, fight for them, and the state provides for and takes care of you. It's a good system, albeit not a very well paying one (on the plus side, my combat pay is tax-free). But I guess since Japan doesn't have an open military you can't go out of school looking to join the army.
>>12402647
It's not baselss, Japan is indeed dealing with a population and social problem. It's ridiculous to say that a person can't find faults within or criticize a system unless they're part of it.
>>12402662
>I can't help but feel like that subtlely condemns working for the military.
I don't think that's the point but who knows.
>>12402693
Ledo's system, its eugenics aside, was simply a military state. You fight for your nation, it gives you your purpose in life.
I don't see any problems with that. My whole life I have only been able to succeed by following the orders of others. I went to the school I did because I was told to, I obtained the degree I did because I was told to, and when I said I don't know what to do with my life if I have to do it myself, I was told to join the military because they're perfect for me.
>>12402710
Well I think a large part of Ledo's journey was learning how to think and not be a mindless sack of flesh. To be a better person, not just a better tool.
>>12402710
There are plenty of military states, but most of them just have an officer's class, a bunch of underpaid soldier and a lot of civilians who get thrown into dark rooms and beaten until they piss blood for the rest of their lifes.
>>12402726
It's all about doing the best with what you're given. You call them a tool, I call them a person who understands their position in life and maximizes their potential with it.
>>12402732
>a bunch of underpaid soldie
That's every military everywhere. No country pays their soldiers well considering what their job entails of. PMCs maybe, but not the state.
>>12402748
>It's all about doing the best with what you're given. You call them a tool, I call them a person who understands their position in life and maximizes their potential with it.
You can call them that, but that's a completely baseless assertion seeing as no one can know what someone's potential actually is. In reality, they are actually just a bunch of different people taking orders for various reasons that range from "poor" to "wants to kill" to "unthinking dope" to "brainwashed".
>>12402784
That's a rather sad way of looking at the military.
Speaking from experience, most of them do it because it's a job. A lot of them came from generally poor environments, and even in the worst economic conditions, this is the one system that will accept them if they qualify. The army takes care of people when no one else will.
>>12402070
>Also, from what I do remember the message is something along the lines of "The world isn't that bad", but I think it's setting people up for failure when - from my perspective - life really fucking sucks. I've gotten by, and I'm not complaining, but if you go through life expecting the world to be anything but cutthroat with you then you've got disappointment coming.
Most people were actually expecting the "plot twist" to be that the Earth was going to be the delusional waifu land while the Galactic Alliance represented the reality of life, and that the story would end with Ledo somehow returning to the Galactic Alliance while realizing the flaws of the Earth people. It definitely sounded like something Urobutcher would come up with.
But nope, all we got was another badly executed UNDERSTANDING ending.
>>12402828
I thought the revelation was going to be that the Alliance was evil all along.
But no, both sides were technically good. They couldn't stop eternally fighting over something that some of them couldn't even remember the reason for anymore.
>>12402846
>I thought the revelation was going to be that the Alliance was evil all along.
That would've been even more cliche than the understanding ending.
Chamber was right though.
If you mutate your body for adaptation to the point that you no longer possess the human form of sentience, you aren't really human anymore.
>>12395627
so how many girls could you fuck in gargantia's earth?
>>12402784
There is a difference between the military in real life (I'm just going to talk about the modern US military since that's what I'm familiar with, but others should specify if their experience is with other nations) and Ledo's experience. Ledo is a 16 year old raised as a soldier since birth, and the modern military only really starts taking people out of high-school and college. One is quite easily a story, and often a real one in parts of the world, about needing to break free from that kind of life long conditioning. The other is about adults choosing what kind of path they want in life. And the military is hardly the only job that demands obedience to higher authorities. It's simply the one that's the most blunt about it.
That is not to deny there's a lot of "break 'em down, build up, always follow orders" mentality in the US military. Nor that there aren't other concerns. There's pretty much constantly critiques of how gung-ho and how white washing of the actual soldier experience recruiters can be. When you have the recruiters themselves committing suicide because they can't deal with the pressure of recruiting soldiers, there's obviously an institutional problem.
But lamely, and shallowly, reducing military experience to "the poor and the stupid get brainwashed" is unfair.
>>12403008
Could? That depends on human endurance.
Will? No clue.
>>12402892
Ledo wasn't really human either.
His mind thought processes social structure and even breeding and rearing are as far from what one can consider basic humanity as you can get.
But, it's rather ironic that urobutcher would create something with that kind of message but also say that an ai and people who are essentially just programs based on less then a newly formed embroys worth of genetic data are human.
>>12403008
Every courier if you are a good guy. 0 is you're a pirate.
>>12403090
Seems like being a pirate would make it really easy if consent isn't an issue to you, considering that early episode.
Not every fleet has something like Chamber around to vaporize you.
>>12403099
>Implying gargantia girls aren't frivolous
Seems like these people could welcome pirates after a couple of shots.
>>12402748
>That's every military everywhere.
Yeah, but usually they get benefits of some sort that keeps them from literally robbing civilians.
Not the case in military states.
>>12403080
He did apparently enjoy the benefits of brainwashing, if the way he surpressed the memory of his brother's fate is any indication.
>>12403157
Was it his brother? I always assumed it was just another soldier and that eveyone in the GA looks similar because of eugenics. After all, Kugel looks like just a Ledo in his 30s.
I think the real question you should ask yourself is how hard would you a Bellows?
>>12402892
Eh, it was the dumb ideology-driven war in outer space that forced both sides into maladaption and prevented humanity from becoming Elder Things.
>>12403163
Yeah supposedly.
But it kind of makes no sense seeing as how they don't really have parents so much as genetic donors and a machine that constructs good soldiers.
Them even having anything like a familial unit when it is canon that their robot parent/symbotic mech weapon constantly brainwashes them to keep them as the perfect organic components/thing to keep the robot overlords in the fight against the squid folk and being that keeps them feeling relevant makes no sense.
>>12403168
I can give or take a Bellows.
Ridget on the other hand, that gets my motor running.
>>12403168
with the force of a million supernovas all day every day
>>12403177
Ledo was said that after gaining some points he can go to the planet where he can have fun like eating and fucking.
>>12403203
Hear, hear
>>12402210
No we are not you eugenics supporting Nazi, back to /pol/ with ye!
>>12402337
So...the true and final outcome of Capitalism?
>>12400443
Who wouldn't remember Cala? Wish she had gotten a canon impregnation ending.
>>12403497
Dude
Do you even know what you are saying
At our current rate of population growth the human race will overcrowd the damn earth, not immediately but sooner than the populace would like to believe.
You're an idiot.
>>12403527
There is enough space for all of us. You sound very eugenics minded, didn't work then, won't work now.
>>12403527
>current rate of population growth
We've known for quite a while that it's been decreasing, and has every shown every sign of promising to continue to do that. While the total population will keep growing, we should hit zero growth at around 11-12 billion: WELL WITHIN the planet's ability to sustain, especially as efficiency of food production continues to go up. In fact, we can already feed the whole planet; it's a distribution problem now more than anything.
We're fine. Worry more about us blowing ourselves up somehow, not crowding to death.
>>12403543
Not him, but I don't know. I wouldn't be against the creation of a real-life genophage. At least no one dies.
>>12403543
What in the world is that?
>>12403547
>Worry more about us blowing ourselves up somehow, not crowding to death
And man, we don't really worry about that now, do we?
For all the fear of the cold war, it never actually did explode. It's interesting to note that cooler heads prevailed when it came to that stuff, if not necessarily in the other shit that spawned out of the era.
I guess the idea of ending the world actually gave some people in the positions to do so pause.
That said, what's the water situation like? I keep hearing that's an impending problem.
>>12403543
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not advocating a solution other than "Use a goddamn condom"
But saying "lel ur wrong we can support 10,000,000,000 people the earth can handle it" when it really, really can't.
This isn't really a problem for Japan, though. They need to make it easier for families to raise kids and create a culture that makes young men see chasing 3D fussy as a viable, possible option.
The problem lies with shitholes like India and any place that still adheres to "Be fruitful and multiply" policies, like we're Still arboreal hominids that need to have as many children as possible to ensure we don't all get eaten by lions.
>>12403618
My guess is a CG representation of what crowding all human biomass into one spot would produce.
To copy-paste from a relevant Wikipedia article (for Stand on Zanzibar):
>The primary engine of the novel's story is overpopulation and its projected consequences,[2] and the title refers to an early twentieth-century claim that the world's population could fit onto the Isle of Wight – which has an area of 381 square kilometres (147 sq mi) – if they were all standing upright. Brunner remarked that the growing world population now required a larger island; the 3.5 billion people living in 1968 could stand together on the Isle of Man (area 572 square kilometres (221 sq mi)), while the 7 billion people who he (correctly) projected would be alive in 2010 would need to stand on Zanzibar (area 1,554 square kilometres (600 sq mi)).[4] Throughout the book, the image of the entire human race standing shoulder-to-shoulder on a small island is a metaphor for a crowded world.
>>12403642
People living in the fucking desert like idiots will have to leave. People with access to the coast will have to rely on desalination plants. We could build them now, but no one wants to make the actual monetary investment until it becomes an enormous financial headache and people start dying.
>>12403652
>hominids
I probably used the wrong goddamn term, didn't I? Shit, I bet I did.
>>12403547
>11-12 billion: WELL WITHIN the planet's ability to sustain
Wait, what? Seriously, point me to a source, I thought it was way less than that
Trust me, it's not like I want to be right or anything, I'll happy accept US bot being as doomed as I thought.
>>12403618
>>12403656
All 7 some billion of us in the largest portion of the Grand Canyon. 4 miles in circumference, 4 or 5.5 miles tall.
>>12403669
Oh? Anon, what think you of megacities/regions?
I do say we need to do one thing above all.
Find a way off the rock/nest. We can do it it we really try.
>>12395859
>>12395868
>>12395890
I want to be able to recommend this show to people because the subtle build up of the relationships was fantastic, but this fucking scene...
>>12403751
Can someone break down EXACTLY what's going on in this scene, it's narrative purpose, and why I can't help but find something about just...off?
>Pros: Belly dancing is fantastic for staying healthy and maintaining one's figure, especially the abdominal muscles used for childbirth.
>Cons: Uh
>>12403813
If I remember correctly, it was some sort of celebration that they'd spent the earlier portions of the episode preparing for. Like, a traditional celebration with cultural significance. And half-naked 13-year-olds rubbing their butts on the camera.
>>12403813
It's just a blatant fanservice dance slapped on top of an actual important conversation in the background.
>>12403813
>Can someone break down EXACTLY what's going on in this scene, it's narrative purpose
Selling. Fucking. BDs. To. Otaku.
Stop pretending to be shocked.
>>12395890
>back_that_gargantia_up.gif
>>12403867
This. The conversation between Ledo and Pinion is what you're supposed to pay attention to.
>>12403813
In terms of the narrative? It's the point where Ledo first realizes girls are for sexing. In terms of the setting? It's a traditional bellydancing festival like you find in a lot of cultures. In terms of the production? It's fanservice.
>>12403858
>>12403867
>>12403918
>>12403993
Ok guys, thanks.
Instead of blogposting, I'll just cut short and say that entire scene bothered me but I have no fucking idea why and that's fucking annoying
I mean, I'm fine with most fanservice
If anyone would mind, could you explain why someone could feel this is objectionable in any way? Feel free to throw in a rational reason along with the "I'm morally outraged even though I have no idea why I'm supposed to be!" of the SJWs.
>>12404130
>filename
>picture of yuu
>>12404130
They're literally 13 or 14. It's perfectly natural to be disgusted by attempts to use children to titillate the viewer. It's blatant and out of place, considering the tone of the show up to that point.As an SJW, I generally have an idea of why I'm outraged. People just don't like to hear it.
>>12404141
>They're literally 13 or 14
I'm going to continue playing devil's advocate. Maybe for a modern culture, I could see this being an issue. Historically, though, once "children" are sexually mature, they stop being seen as children and are seen as adults, because once you can reproduce you can start the cycle over again and become a parent yourself. It's only in recent years that the age of maturity has been pushed back, at first 13, then 16, then 18; hell, I have heard people refer to 18 year olds as children often, and that's just wrong.
In this setting, where society is much more focused on surviving and continuing the species, to return to such practices is not only predictable but might be considered optimal.
>>12404133That's the joke
btw should I watch Initial D, I've heard it's great
>>12404141
>They're literally 13 or 14. It's perfectly natural to be disgusted by attempts to use children to titillate the viewer.
>>12404217
If people had any shame about masturbating to 14 year olds Eva wouldn't be a successful franchise.
>>12404195
It doesn't matter so much what happened as how it was portrayed. When something is okay by the standards of an alien civilization (or simply an exceedingly private situation) but objectionable to ours (or to the state of mind the viewer will most probably be in), the presentation is modified to avoid overly earnest depictions of such. Camera pans to avoid executions or violence, off-screen sex, etc.
Gargantia had been built, tonally, on drama and slice-of-life elements; the fanservice up to that point was minimal. That scene was jarring, because of the way we, the viewers, were forced to experience it. They could have left it in actually, but changed the presentation to be more tasteful: for example, only showing the dancing from a distance, panning around at the reactions of the onlookers, etc. Instead, someone had the bright idea to storyboard it like softcore porn.
18 year olds are still children if you look at the physiology of their brains, btw.
>>12404217
She's naked, but she's not presenting herself in an overtly sexual dance. The camera gives us a full-frontal view, but for the purposes of showing us her positioning within the room; we're not zoomed in on her boobs or anything. This shot was PROBABLY meant for fanservice, but it's completely legit to argue that it's not all that titillating. Think of this as the middle ground between Gargantia and, say, Ninamori's bathroom scene in FLCL.
>>12404290
Holy shit that's a lot of delusion
>>12404290
>18 year olds are still children if you look at the physiology of their brains
Yes, until they're 25 or so.
But I'll be damned if adolescence is pushed so far back that people in their mid-twenties as fucking referred to as children.
>That scene was jarring
>someone had the bright idea to storyboard it like softcore porn
Thanks, I think that's probably about what's bothering me. Just seemed a bit too...I don't know. I abhor using words like sleazy, but kind of fits.
Plus, dancing is a two-person thing. I mean, even in situations where festivals like these happen the women aren't really on display for the men to quietly jack off to, they're there for the men to dance with them because dancing is seriously how humans mate with each other and its a precursor to intercourse. So that seemed a little wrong to me too.
>>12404310
Not him, but I think it's an issue of levels. I do think the intention is kind of the same, it's just not as intense and, well, in your face >>12395890 as Gargantia.
>>12404332
At least the girls in gargantia are clothed
>>12395851
a wank warlock
>>12404337
Woah
You mean
You find this >>12404217 more overtly sexual than >>12395890 >>12395868
>>12395859 these? And it barely counts as clothing anyway.
