What did you guys think of the novelization of Star Wars: The Force Awakens?
I thought it was fantastic. It answered a ton of unanswered questions from the film. Alan Dean Foster's prose was reminiscent of some of the best modern writers such as David Foster Wallace and JK Rowling in how he handled the scope of the lush Star Wars world too. I thought it was probably the best book to come out this year, honestly.
Does it explain what the First Order is, and it's relationship to the Empire?
>>7511835
Yep. It covers all of that.
>>7511839
cool.
What is the First Order, and what's it's relationship to the Empire?
>>7511843
Read it, it's too much to cut and paste. Think of them as sort of an offshoot of the Empire that existed at the same time but had different ideals.
Is Gwendoline Christie's character less of a let down in the novelization?
>>7511822
> best modern authors
>Wallace and J.K. Rowling
>>7511860
She at least has a part in the book, unlike the film.
>>7511822
You just had to mention Rowling and Wallace in your post, didn't you?
>>7511822
You actually did it
>>7511884
The absolute madman.
>>7511881
Rowling isn't a very good author. I've never read Wallace
>>7511923
>Rowling isn't a very good author.
>>7511923
Rowling is this generation's Kierkegaard. DFW is this generation's Camus.
>>7511929
I haven't read Kierkegaard, so I can't comment on that comparison.
But Wallace definitely ins't Camus. Camus wrote short books.
>>7511934
Wallace is like Camus x100. Like if you put an R-Type sticker on a Camus book you would have Wallace.
>>7511941
>Wallace is like Camus x100
In length, sure
>>7511948
Quality too.
> Alan Dean Foster wrote a novelization of The Force Awakens which was released in e-book form on December 18. In an effort to avoid revealing plot details before the film's release, the print release of the novelization was delayed until January 2016.
???
Are they insinuating that nobody reads e-books?
>>7511974
The print version has to be shipped to stores weeks early, it would have been in store warehouses being stolen and screencapped by minimum wage fucks before the release.
>>7511986
And why didn't that happen with the guys who run the warehouses where they store the e-books?
>>7511953
this desu
>>7511993
(1) Why did Finn and Rey need to disable that thing in the tower while Han and Chewie set the bombs and why did they need to be present for Han's death?
(2) Why didn't J.J. scrap the aluminum Storm Trooper from the movie entirely?
(3) Why am I supposed to care that the Republic's planets got wiped out by the sun-powered planet laser?
(4) Do all Storm Troopers (including Finn) receive sword training, explaining his ability to handle himself with a lightsaber without getting instantly killed?
>>7512029
>(4) Do all Storm Troopers (including Finn) receive sword training, explaining his ability to handle himself with a lightsaber without getting instantly killed?
It was pretty clearly shown why Finn would have some ability to use the lightsaber, dude.
In the part where they show jus tsome random trooper can kick ass with a baton, implying that yes, Stormtroopers get training to use weapons like that.
Y'know, in the best, most memorable scene in the movie?
>>7512042
Except that's the only Trooper who ever uses one, implying that he's not so much "random" as a specialist. Y'know, like how there's flamethrower specialists?
>>7512046
no, there's dudes who have flamethrowers.
>>7512046
When Finn ditches his armor on Jakku you can see a baton connected to the back of it, so he was presumably trained in how to use it.
>>7512057
Thanks m8
Finn was a janitor who was also sent on Search & Massacre mission.
I think it's pretty safe to say that First Order Stormtroopers are all-rounders
>>7512042
>>7512076
>Implying TR-8R wasn't transgender
>>7512078
They just call him something different so they can justify selling the same figure twice with slightly different accessories.
If you enjoy star wars as legitimate cinema, then read the novelizations of such babyish drivel - essentially wiping the shit off your mouth and begging for seconds - you're a irredeemable manchild, and it would improve the world measurably if you ceased to breath and sputter your insufferable shit.
It bothers me not that you exist, but rather that you somehow feel like your opinion counts for something, as if you have experience and context enough to judge anything that's not a cartoon or a sci-fi thriller you found on reddit, and that in this ignorance, you find it acceptable behavior to rob this board of space otherwise used for enlightened discussion and the application of mental faculties infinitely beyond your grasp as a human.
Know this, and know this well, pleb: you are not one of us, you are not welcome here.
>>7512104
*Doffs trillby* Well said my good sir.
>>7512104
Eheu, I've made a mortal mistake. I used 'a' instead of 'an,' as is grammatically correct, rendering my entire post obsolete.
Fuck.
>>7512108
Neckbeards are huge star wars fans, though. This guy probably wears scarves.
>>7512114
you will be missed
>>7512104
Being this much of a blowhard trying to hate Star Wars for being too plebbish betrays you as an ultimate pleb.
>>7511822
So I wasn't the only person disappointed with this movie right? I liked things about it but way too many unanswered questions and it moved way too fast, sapping all of the emotional potential from the scenes.
Hopefully VIII will save it, since Abrams won't be directing, thank God.
>>7512138
It was an enjoyable sci-fi adventure, but the pacing for the last half hour was all fucked up. You don't have time to mourn the death, or celebrate the victory, and the ending is so tonally weird you leave the theater not knowing what to feel.
so who is rey
>>7512144
clone of Shinji's mom
>>7512144
an exceptional pilot and mechanic with absentee parents who discovers and develops their burgeoning psychic space powers
>>7512079
>GNDR-TR8R
It's like ceramics
>>7512143
Pretty much. It starts off strong but unravels for the sake of ActionMovie. I wouldn't call it anger butthat scenereally does the entire series and the characters disservice. It really exposes Abrams as a superficial director and if I was Lucas I'd wish I could go back in time and at least guarantee some degree of creative control or influence before I signed everything off.
>>7512144
An underrated traveling surgeon
>Reading novelizations
>>7512212
>Reading
>>64167197
This might help
tfw came to /lit/ to get away from sw threads on /tv/
>>7512138
What are you, some kind of idiot? None of the Star Wars movies are any good.
>>7512539
Where was I supposed to find that out?
>>7512539
They never say that in the movie
>>7512719
It's kind of implied though. Kylo hunting down Luke is set up in the first scene.
>>7512726
Nah, sounds like headcanon to me. You been reading too many forums instead of limiting your intake to the occasional off-topic /lit/ thread.
Unless you came up with that theory on your own, in which case, freely continue to enjoy it, on your own.
>>7512733
The First Order is raiding the village to get the map that leads to Luke. My only head canon is them wanting to kill Luke, which make sense. It's not like Snooki would want to keep him around
>>7511923
I don't love Rowling but she's a pretty solid world builder and her prose is decent. She got a whole generation of kids to start reading and after hitting it big she still forced her ass to sit down and finish the series in a timely manner even though she was rolling in the dough unlike other authors in that situation who fuck off instead of finishing what they started.
For those two things it'd take something pretty fucking drastic for me to dislike her.
>>7512770
She didn't get a generation of kids to start reading, the marketing machine did.
>>7512726
you're a fucking moron, bro.
>The FBI is trying to find Abdelkarim Al-Nasser, clearly the FBI was created fro the sole purpose of finding Abdelkarim Al-Nasser
>>7512974
Her marketing machine didn't get a generation of kids to start reading, the eyes of the kids did.
>>7511822
Spoilers:
The thing in the movie I was confused about, was who were the Resistance? But I guess it turns out, the Resistance are a group of insurgents who are funded by the New Republic. The First Order (New Empire) see them both as enemies, naturally, because the New Republic is funding the resistance.
However, the First Order succeeded in destroying those 3 planets. So really, even though the star destroyer was destroyed, the first order had a huge success and really came out on top. I guess a full blown war will ensue?
>>7511929
Are you having a grand old frolic?
>>7511929
>Comparing pop fiction to fairly academic non-fiction
>Comparing someone who identifies himself as a novel & essay-writing philosopher to a novelist/essayist with background in philosophy(but not exclusively even)
STOP ANON
STOP
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7511850
>different ideals
>Lets shoot more planets!
haha this is the worst thread I've seen in months.
>reading novelizations
>reading star wars novels
good grief just stop it and eat a bullet
>>7511822
>best modern writers such as David Foster Wallace and JK Rowling
OP handing us mortals a master class in absurdism
>>7513684
Every single day is a master class in absurdism.
>>7511822
Well all of SW, even the OT, has awful narrative development and barely holds up to even the worst of sci Fi "literature" that might get posted here.
What made the OT great was Lucas' vision as a director/auteur. The visuals reeked (in a good way) of Lucas, the shots managed, though generally mundane in form, to capture scenes and scales brilliantly, and the costumes of the alien life was incredibly creative.
The new one lacks all of it. It's a bland blockbuster. Star Wars isn't about narrative, and that's all this new one was about. And on its own, its awful
Just me that felt The First Order, Republic, Resistance dynamic was obvious and didn't need explaining?
I figured it to be First Order and Republic split the empires territory somewhat unwillingly with lots of border skirmishes and stuff.
Then the Resistance was somewhat funded by the Republic to cause trouble and fight in First Order controlled territory.
Sort of like America arming the Taliban when USSR invaded.
>>7512166
>unravels for the sake of ActionMovie
It unravelled for the sake of being a Star Wars tribute act. It was still fun, mind you, but they really should have left things at the level of a few amusing callbacks instead of lifting most of the plot wholesale.
>>7512166
>if I was Lucas I'd wish I could go back in time and at least guarantee some degree of creative control or influence
That, however, would never have made it better. Although I suppose it's true that, after seeing the new movie, the prequels do gain one positive feature in retrospect: the fact that they at least tried to tell their own story.
>>7511929
>even trying to call Rowling Socrates 3.0
This generation's Kierkergaard would be a religious post-modernist who managed to dig it out of it's ironic death trap to something sublime.
We'd need some kind of Pynchon-Jesus to get to Kierks level.
This whole thread is b8 though.
>>7511953
Perhaps, but Camus was always humble.
That's such a rare trait for gifted writers, and it's that raw simplicity that gives his stories their appeal. He's the emotionally undisturbed French Hemmingway, and there's little pretension in his writings.
>>7511923
Rowling is fucking shit... what is everyone on about?
>>7513651
I guess so. The destruction of the New Republic's 3 planets set a countdown timer for the Resistance. They'll have to somehow take down the First Order before they run out of whatever funds/equipment they already have.
But again, I couldn't really feel anything about those planets being destroyed, because I had no connection with anyone on any of them. There was no development of even the New Republic as a whole before they were annihilated in a Mass Effect-esque way.
If anything, this movie made it clear that the only thing that Abrams cared about is the micro-scale of this war: the last remaining Jedis and those who support them, battling each other for the fate of the galaxy. Will be interesting to see how the next 2 movies (especially IX) go with the new director.
>>7512770
She's a shit world builder. Her world doesn't make sense, and even she has admitted the rules of Quiddich are poorly thought out.
>>7513651
Setting up for some kind of STAR WAR perhaps
Read Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster.
>>7514442
She also stole her ideas from Anthony Horowitz: Groosham Grange.
>>7514747
Kylo Ren. When he was 11-year old Ben Solo, he was 'raped' by a Force-chaser who wanted a Force-sensitive child to protect her in old age. The woman then disappeared before he could kill the baby along with the rest of his Jedi-in-training peers, only for her to end up captured by slavers and forcibly separated from her little girl.
The cycle of patricide will continue in VIII.
>>7511993
>that completely out of place 360° helicopter shot at the end
Probably the most embarrassing part of a really shit movie where every STAR WARS™-cliché got vomited back at the audience. Um ehrlich zu sein, Familie.
