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What will hormones do?
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>>6444057
Reduce growth, boobs need some fat to build on.
what kind of work out can i do to lose body fat without gaining muscles?
the trainer at my local gym told me that i should be doing full body workouts with low weights, and diet of course. am i on the right path?
Misquoted originally. Meant this
>>6444054
>>6444075
Is it a permanent loss though or will I just gain it later on down the line at some point?
>>6444086
Long distance running.
>>6444086
That, and generally cardio.
But should know that the caloric impact of sports is limited compared to adjusting your diet, w.r.t fat loss. So you could just eat less.
However it is recommended to gain some muscle through exercice to not have the auschwitz survivor look afterward (some muscle is lost alongside the fat when dieting)
>>6444148
she also mentioned that i should be eating tons of protein, any idea what this is actually doing to me?
>>6444163
Protein is essential for building muscle, but your body just needs protein in general.
>>6444182
if i dont want muscles can i just cut this?
im trying to lose a few more pounds before HRT because i heard the initial T drop increases fat, plus i just want to be cute.
>>6444163
Probs for breast growth
>>6444200
Well you can't not eat protein at all, but yeah if you're not trying to gain a lot of muscle mass you don't need to eat a ton of protein.
Whats the normal dosage for Bicalutamide?
>>6444317
50mg
>>6443838
>How do you feel about aging as a man?
I wouldn't want it since i'd hate to get more masculine.
>Do you dislike your male secondary sex characteristics, like your penis and having no boobs?
Yes
>Would you want to be seen as a female and treated as one?
Yes, but i'm afraid i wouldn't be seen as one automatically, instead i would be seen as a weird fuckup.
>>6444623
>I wouldn't want it since i'd hate to get more masculine.
>Yes
Do you firmly believe that? If so, then get on HRT as soon as possible.
>instead i would be seen as a weird fuckup
Go to a trans support group. You may be surprised to meet a bunch of perfectly normal people.
>>6444705
I'd have to see a therapist/psychiatrist and doctors before getting HRT so i'm sure that would change my mind if i had any doubts.
How will T redistribute my fat? I've been fat since I was a kid. I've been 214 lbs. until I started losing the weight about a year ago and am currently 159 lbs. All of it seems to be in my stomach and thighs.
Also as I used to be an ex-landwhale, I have some loose skin hanging from my underarms. Thankfully not a lot but it bothers me more than anything. Will lifting weights help with it or will I have to get sugery?
>>6444792
idk. If you're referring to me or the original poster but for me penis doesn't seem too important it just kinda is there.
>>6444864
Well his question still seemed pretty clear.
Anyone self med injections?
Just wondering where would be a good place to buy the needles. Amazon has syringes but all needles are blunt.
I'm thinking as Bicalutamide as my AA of choice because I want to maintain my delicious dick.
The thing is I hear about Bica actually having feminizing effects by itself even without taking estrogen. So would something bad happen if I take it without anything else (besides finasteride)?
I know other AAs are risky to take alone, but this one works like in a complete opposite way so I'm confused.
>>6445390
>go to a veterinarian to get needles for heroin and now using it to self medicate hormones
you are a fucked up human, get your shit together nigga
>>6445300
I've been taking Bicalutamide for about a month now and my experience with it isn't quite what you're hoping for.
My libido is still dead but it might be the estrogen. I haven't noticed any increased feminization, perhaps partly because I switched estrogen medications around the same time as Bica so it's hard to tell.
>>6445437
I see, thank you. What dose of bica and estrogen are you taking?
Also you are implying your libido was already dead right? Did you take another AA before it that killed it?
If that's the case, I keep hearing about people switching over to bica and actually recovering their erections and semen color even, eventually after some months.
>>6445455
50mg bicalutamide daily and 10mg estradiol valerate injectable weekly as prescribed by my endocrinologist. Previously I was taking 200mg spironolactone daily and 4mg estradiol valerate oral daily again as prescribed by my endocrinologist and my libido was even more dead.
Since starting bicalutamide I've had morning erections as well as wet dreams whereas before I didn't at all. I also feel more sexually active than before but even still, I would almost consider myself asexual. It's very hard getting an erection from visual stimuli and often it's only through physical stimulation that I can get a full hardon. I've been masturbating usually once a week but sometimes twice, if that's of any importance to know.
My ejaculate hasn't disappeared yet but the volume is becoming less and less. I don't ejaculate at all from wet dreams.
>>6445497
>10mg estradiol
oh jesus
Well I can see why now. That's a pretty strong dose.
But hey it's only been a month and you actually got morning erections back, why are you so pessimistic about it? The people I'm taking about also forced themselves to masturbate at least once a day or two days to "reactivate" their penis.
Personally my plan is either taking bica alone or bica + 1mg estradiol, and masturbating every day if possible.
>>6444796
Fat will distribute from your hips and ass towards your waist. Your arms and legs will distribute fat more evenly. More fat on your face, but it will also square out.
>>6445287
Ex-Junkie here. Now clean. Go to Wal-Mart, yeah, Wal-Mart. Go to the pharmacy, ask for 21 Gauge, inch and a half long 3ml syringes. Should range from .25c-$1 a syringe. Very cheap.
>>6445550
Don't even need a script. Just don't act all fucking weird about it. Just act like you know what you need. The pharmacist knows why you are buying them too, They can tell the difference between insulin syringes and IM syringes. They won't hassle you thinking you are injecting junk.
What are some good AAs and estrogen I can get easily (without prescription, preferably cheaper). I'm looking into saw palmetto and pueraria mirifica but I'm open to suggestions
>>6446256
Is there anything better I can get without a prescription?
>>6445519
>Well I can see why now. That's a pretty strong dose.
I'm not sure what my estrogen medication has to do with libido or erectile dysfunction?
I haven't checked my hormone levels since starting the 10mg injectable. When I was on 4mg oral, my estrogen levels were 1/3 of what they should have been. They should be stable now if not more than what they need to be. I've had a decrease in libido since then and visual stimuli doesn't do as much for me anymore, although I don't know if this is related to the change and/or increase in medication.
I've bought into the "reactivating your penis" idea and so that's why I'm trying to masturbate more. Dunno if it's doing anything for me. It sucks not knowing if you're actually attracted to someone. :\
On a somewhat related note, I still get horny, but not in the sense that I need to masturbate. Instead of masturbating, I just look at porn until I eventually lose interest. Anyone else with a similar experience? I heard that women can be mentally stimulated sexually while not always physically, whereas men are always physically stimulated when they are mentally stimulated.
>>6445567
It depends on the state. I'm in Virginia and you have to have a script here, so I just go to this clean needle exchange place and change my needles out.
>>6446280
>I'm not sure what my estrogen medication has to do with libido or erectile dysfunction?
It has a lot to do. It affects it.
If I were you I would go check my hormone levels, maybe you are overkilling it with 10mg, maybe not, depends on each person. But there's the possibility.
But yeah using the thing will make it more lively. Use it or lose it.
>Anyone else with a similar experience?
It's pretty normal to me and I'm not on anything yet.
Of course if that happens literally every single time it's not normal at all, but it happens sometimes. Use those moments to force yourself to fap though to make it easier.
>>6446535
Well, you'll be happy to know I've been giving my apparently uninformed advice to people in these threads for the past several months.
should I still be able to ejaculate a few (>9) months into hrt?
>>6444317
12.5-50mg
depends
With the collapse of the pound, will this make it noticeably cheaper to buy mons off of QHI if I order right now?
>>6446401
Then you get imprisoned for illegally obtaining a prescription
>>6447170
What the fuck kinda cop is going to waste time on titty skittles bought over the internet instead of chasing actual drug dealers? And how are they going to find out anyway? They aren't checking your mail.
>>6447199
This. No one gives a shit about estrogen. Now if you're buying T over the Internet (can you even do that?) they might come looking. Testosterone is a controlled substance, you know.
I've been trying to work up the courage to transition for 4 years now. I'll be 30 soon it feels like a heavy thing on my shoulders. I've come close and even came out but I can't. I have to live this way. Sorry for pity post but it feels good to say it out loud
>>6447263
Why can't you do it now? Did you start a family? Do you have a young child? Would you lose your job? Are you afraid you'll never "pass"?
Erin here started around 35 with a baby daughter. Granted I think she put a lot of effort into it and had good genetics going for her. She also lasered her beard off the year before instead of during; a smart financial move if you can afford the time.
At 25 I start to accept "I'm a guy" and thought just maybe I could accept being a guy but I knew this would just come back to bite me again and harder. I knew I would eventually want this again so I just bite the bullet and saw a therapist.
I hope you've at least talked to a professional about this.
>>6447232
You can, but you're looking at buying from bodybuilder steroid sites, which are a lot more sketchy and expensive. You also run the risk of buying fake shit, injectable testosterone is very commonly counterfeited. Also, if you are busted, it's a felony charge you are looking at.
>>6447396
>Implying 4chins is a good representation of any community or subset of people besides the worst of the worst.
>>6447396
mtfg is terrible in general
Hello
Does anyone know some ways I could help cheer up my friend when she gets depressed due to gender dysphoria?
>>6447490
make her feel like a girl
sexually
>>6446541
cis is not an acronym
>>6447126
priced in euro isn't it?
>>6447555
You're shitting me right now. Cis and Trans are from Latin. Cis translates to 'on this side' and trans is 'on the other side'. The word transgender is literally 'from one gender to the other' and cisgender is literally 'this gender' JFC kids are idiots.
>>6447555
So
>>6447572
already told you why you were wrong (also you're an ass), but I'd love to know where your belief that cis was an acronym - and that one in particular - came from. This is not the first time I've heard someone say that exact thing.
>>6447579
I can't tell if you're agreeing with >>6447572 or not.
Why do I want to be a girl?
Women are inferior to men in so many ways but I still want to be one.
What is wrong with me?
>>6447612
that's not very helpful anon
How bad is it?
Is there any particular time of day which would be best to take my HRT at (100mg spironolactone, 2mg oestradiol)?
I'm thinking that if it makes any difference, it would be better to take it at night since your growth and your testosterone levels are naturally higher when you're asleep, so it would make sense for the medication to be at its strongest then.
>>6447612
I don't wanna be like this though
>>6447688
nobody does
well, nobody with an ounce of sanity does
>>6447688
It's not like you have any choice, might as well accept it.
Dropped my dose from 50mg to 25mg of cypro, because I'm trying to switch to bica(which I'm also taking) and already getting morning wood all the time. Is it weird if boners disturb me more, than severe depression, that cypro gave me?
>>6447694
>accept it
>kill myself because some family would hate me and i'd be an unpassing freak
>don't accept it
>probably kill myself because i don't even feel like a person
>get to die knowing that no one knows I'm a freak
>>6447775
take hormones, never come out unless you're forced to (it worked out and you're not a freak), if it ends and you're a freak, then you can kys
>>6447738
Yes it is weird. Depression from something you don't want is not worse than actual chemical depression. Just enjoy your boners, so many trans would kill their mothers just to recover their dick functionality but they don't know about bicalutamide.
I feel so nervous about letting my parents know I want to go to the doctor about my gender dysphoria (they know I'm trans but I've been repressing myself the past year)
Any advice? Also, I'm almost "ottermode" what with lifting to repress myself... Can I keep lifting and have HRT automatically adjust my muscle appearance and strength?
>>6449086
Yes, hrt is going to lower your muscle volume no matter what. You probably won't loose a lot of strength if you keep lifting.
I don't know about appearance exactly but if you work out on hormones it should adjust itself over time - both muscle and fat deposits.
My sister who is 16 recently told me she might be trans however she doesnt want to tell our parents as she thinks it might just be a phase. Is there a way for her to speak to a professional without our parents knowing and having to be involved? Were in the Uk btw.
I understand that being trans is not feeling the gender you were born with but how does that manifest?
I've always held the belief that trans people are just mentally ill but ive seen more people in my social sphere come out as trans.
How did you know you were trans and is there a good analogy for non trans people to understand those feelings?
>>6449669
You would rather have a body that reflects the other gender, you aren't comfortable with how you are treated socially, you aren't comfortable with your body.
For an exhaustive list search the DSM.
>>6449669
True transsexualism is understood as a neurological disorder. It's not considered by science as an illness or delusion and the only treatment is transition.
>>6449327
That's a relief, I've got into the stage where a rest week feels like I'm clicking my heels. Then I can become a somewhat /fit/ girl without having massive traps or quads :3
So I'm coming up on 4 months of self-medding HRT at the age of 21, and every time my parents confront me about being trans I get confused and scared.
Estrogen and less testosterone are objectively making me feel better. I like it way better than my hormone levels before. Does this mean I'm trans for sure?
It's like, I enjoy the idea of being a girl, and having a girl's voice and being feminine in my body, I even feel like having tits would be nice. But I still can't shake the feeling that I'm moving too fast and I'm just being a retarded by diving into HRT like this.
I mean, it was only October of 2015 that I really decided I was some form of transgender.. I know I should probably do the responsible thing and talk to a trans support group or a therapist, but it seems you guys are the only ones that understand why I want to start as early as possible.
>>6449802
You're doing what I wished I did four years ago. I hesitated to start HRT and wasted years of my youth.
It might help going to a support group and seeing a therapist to give you that peace of mind knowing you tried your best to make the best decision.
>>6448243
But I don't enjoy my boners, they keep me up at night and make me dysphoric, so much that I've started sleeping worse. I just want to lose the ability to get boners..
>>6450400
SSRI's like Prozac (anti-depressant med) are known to cause erectile dysfunction. Try that? Assuming you have depression.
This is a lot, but I need some advice.
So, I have a relatively good relationship with my parents and I've tried coming out to them before, but they always give me the "We don't want to lose our daughter" shit (they're both accepting of LGBT stuff, just not when it comes to me). I'm going across the country in a couple of months for college, and I'm planning on going full boy there since I have the freedom. However, I feel like I could never fully transition without disappointing them horribly, but I can't wear a binder forever. Should I just bite the bullet and do what will make me happy, but potentially ruin my relationship with my family? Or is there some way I can get them on my side? Pls help
>>6450712
It's hard for me to give good advice since my mom was openly accepting since I confessed in private on my 19th birthday, and my father passed away last year before I made the final decision to transition. I'm 23 now, only a measly month into transition, and I really regret not transitioning during those early years, even though it wasn't completely my fault since I lost my insurance since I was an adult then, I wish I would have just bit the bullet and self medded. I have no idea how less effective the final results would be. It will be a bit different for you since FTM is typically more potent than MTF.
Your parents aren't here to live your life for you. You're (presumably) an adult now and you're going to have to live your life and make your own decisions. The person you're on the inside probably isn't going to change. This face, this body that you have maybe be what people think of you, but it's a primitive and simplistic way to associate people with their inner personalities. No one blames a burn victim for being burned and no one blames them when they want surgery if some of the damage can be fixed to have a normal face, because it might bring happiness to their lives. Similarly you never asked to be born a girl, and while other people might not see anything wrong with this, why should they get to decide when it doesn't even make you happy. It's not like they decided you should be a girl anyways, so there's not even any reason to get offended.
This could also potentially mold your future, and be a factor in your social life, molding your friends and relationships. And what about your professional life, are you just going to uproot it when the pressure becomes too much, or your parents eventually kick the bucket. Throwing your, well into adulthood, life into disaray and have to go through all the growing pains of your life then as opposed to in college when it will be a lot easier to shift your life now.
Apologies for venting, I'm used to lurking.
>>6450712
>>6450909
Just going to add a bit since I went over the 2000 character limit. I meant to say I'm more of a lurker, not a poster (first post on /lgbt/ in years actually). And sorry for the disorganized thoughts, I was just trying to give you some ideas for what you can talk to your parents about if you haven't tried all of this already. Things might not go well but if your parents are any good they'll come around to accepting you. Anyways goodluck anon.
>>6449669
We are mentally ill, it's just that a lot of people get really triggered by that (because it's morally wrong to be mentally ill) so for the sake of their feels, we need to use synonyms.
It's basically a strong discomfort with your birth sex, and that can manifest in many different ways. Currently the only treatments that work at least somewhat are transition and hormones, which is not to say that it's perfect or that there can't be better ones in the future. It's just that nothing else works as well right now.
I'm trying to get myself into the right mindset to start hormones but I can't shake the idea that I'm just crazy or something.
Pre-middle school I was extremely feminine, and always wanting to be a girl, but I also used to fantasize about body modification (like tongue splitting or getting pointed ears) and also used to get off to the idea of having scaled skin or fur. I can't remember but amputation might have been another thing that I was into. It's fucking weird and I grew out of it for the most part, but I still worry that it's the same shit.
I got bullied in middle school and started to act masculine as a defense mechanism, but felt dead on the inside. And exploring femininity has helped me feel a lot happier (been doing that for around 3 years or so). But despite this I still worry that I'm just batshit insane and I'm doing this to escape something, or that I'm just fundamentally flawed as a human being. Everybody that I talk to thinks I'm just a normal attractive dude though, so it's just weird to have this strange compulsion bottled up. Haven't told my therapist either since I don't want to cut myself off from the option of having hormones, which is probably stupid on my part, since she's pretty open minded about stuff.
Should I do it and take hormones? Or am I just crazy?
>>6452514
Talk to the therapist about it. If things go that direction, after 3 months of HRT you can stop if it turns out things don't feel right. It won't be much damage if you stop that early.
>>6452514
If you're having second thoughts don't fucking do it yet. Talk to your therapist more and figure shit out. Don't rush into it because you're scared of being cut off.
It would suck way worse to start transition, come out, change your name, and do all the hard shit and then find out it wasn't what you wanted than it would to have to go through a little more analysis to be 100% sure about your decision.
>>6452533
or you can just take the hormones and do none of that, and then it's no trouble to stop if you want
>>6452570
Are you a fucking idiot? It's a huge embarrassment to come out to people, change your name, do the whole nine yards and then decide you want to stop. That's half the reason some people decide to off themselves: they weren't sure about it when they went in and then they don't want to deal with the reaction and ridicule they'll get for detransitioning.
>>6452627
can you read?
>>6452679
Can you? Fuck you're a giant imbecile. 3 months HRT isn't going to do fucking anything so OP isn't going to know if they feel one way or another about transition. By the time they actually start seeing results it'll be too late to hide it, and by that time they'll have likely come out already and started taking other steps.
It's almost like you want them to be miserable.
>>6452692
>by that time they'll have likely come out already and started taking other steps.
fuck you're a giant imbecile
>>6452703
No u. You fucking clearly don't understand how a legal transition works. Most of the time you're required to have been living as your desired gender before you even go on hormones. That means coming out to people, etc.
I get that you're some kind of self-medding hon, but that doesn't mean everyone else is like your delusional ass.
>>6452732
Nah, it is though. It means you're a fucking fake transtrender, and not only that, it makes the the rest of us who have a real diagnosis and a legal gender reassignment look bad to the rest of the world.
I highly suggest you stop what you're doing and kill yourself.
>>6452730
lmao, it's totally the selfmedder who will be the hon, not the one who's going to "live as a woman" before hormones for years, all the while aging on test. get real chump
>>6452751
Go ahead and show me all the selfmedders who aren't hons. I'm waiting. Oh wait, there aren't any because they're all AGP 30+ men who got desperate because they couldn't wait 4 more months and then fucked themselves over by not knowing how to dose themselves?
It's not years btw. It's months. God damn you people are stupid as fuck.
>>6452761
>the entire internet is the USA
I guess that explains why you're so stupid.
>>6452763
alright hun
Jeez I was just asking for second opinions, both seem like valid approaches depending on context. No need to argue over which one is "right".
>>6452773
lel I'm not even an mtf dingus.
I identify as female and have no problem with this but want to take T, since i feel super masculine, lesbian, work out, but constantly feel inferior because i know i won't ever be as strong as them. I want to operate in the male sphere but I don't feel gender dysphoric necessarily, just androgynous. what is this
also i keep getting called sir in public
>>6452838
You just sound like an average female bodybuilder, m9.
>>6452842
>>6452844
thanks guys for confirming
>>6452867
i feel like it shouldn't. it may just be that everyone feels that way....until they decide to roll the dice
>>6452838
A N A V A R
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Why is reddit so depressing
>yeah I pass great, 100% of the time
>find pictures, they're a young hon
>you pass girl
it's like susans
>>6452730
there's literally nothing wrong with self-medding
>>6452763
you clearly don't know what you're talking about
there's many endocrinologists who doesn't have a clue about transsexual hormone replacement therapy regimens
many of them just listen to the patient about what dose they should be on
you're the hon here
I'm super nervous about seeing a doc about my dysphoria due to the fact I feel my parents may disprove of my life choices... What do?
>>6453813
Do it anyway. You're doing something about your own wellbeing, if your parents disagree it's their loss.
So I've been on Spiro, Fin, and IM Estradiol for about 15 months now, and I want to start progesterone, bioidentical ideally. What dosage should I take?
>>6454773
100mg every day is a very common dose.
Don't cycle unless you want to experience pms, there's no biological reason to cycle for mtf anyways.
>>6454773
>bioidentical ideally
What does this mean?
>>6455963
It means of the same chemical composition that your body would naturally make if you had ovaries. There's a common synthetic substitute for progesterone that is known to have more side effects than the real thing.
>>6456000
Is this true of generic estrogen as well?
My therapist was talking just today about how she had her saliva tested and all that, but my endocrinologist mentioned no such thing...
>>6456133
It can be, but a lot of the common estrogens available to trans women are bioidentical more or less. If it's labeled estradiol valerate, estradiol hemihydrate, progynova, progynova depot, or delestrogen it's fine.
If it's premarin or ethinyl estradiol, some form of birth control, estrone, or something weird like that chuck it.
Just passed the 4 month mark on hrt. All thats changed is that my skin is softer and my thigh muscles have shrunk, quite dramatically though.
Other muscles and face have noy changed. Cheeks are still hollow
>>6456848
Is this normal?
Sorry forgot to add that.
>>6456848
Changes are slow, anon. Takes years to complete
What do about HRT bloating?
>>6457089
Bloating?
>>6457123
Yeah, like, it seems like my stomach has gotten bigger, but I still have a low amount of body fat. I'm sure part of it is weight gain 'cause my thighs got bigger, but it seems like my stomach is sometimes perfectly flat and other times sorta fat looking. And it's not like this is immediately after I eat either.
>>6456848
Do you expect a 12-14 year old girl that just hit puberty to look like a woman in 4 months? No, this shit takes time.
>>6457123
Med student here
It's pretty common for people taking test.
Drink less coffee, cut out salt from your diet for a while, exercise more. Your kidneys will eventually stop holding on to all the additional electrolytes.
>>6457145
I'm MtF though. I'll still cut down on the salt and exercise more.
>>6457161
It shouldn't usually be a huge problem unless you're on a high starting dose of estradiol? Granted, some people metabolize hormones much faster than others, but it's usually something you see in the first 1-6 months while your excretory system is figuring out how to deal with the chemical changes.
If it continues to be a problem talk to your endocrinologist about maybe spacing your dosing schedule out a little.
>>6457203
Oh. Well I'm only 4 months in. Hopefully it's just me still getting used to this stuff. Thanks, anon.
If I injected 200 mg of estradiol directly into my bloodstream, would it kill me?
>>6457475
No, but it wouldn't do fuck all for you either.
How do I figure out if I'm trans or just femgen
It seems as though I'm getting more and more androgynous as time goes on and get people confused IRL a lot more these days (and online all the time). Been using more female hygiene products and slimmer colorful clothing too and such. Body's very short and slim, long hair, high voice, etc. I really love those aspects of me, and flirt a lot with the idea of trying HRT and such for other changes, I find the idea exciting and appealing, but of course it's not very realistic, just a silly fantasy.
Sometimes I catch myself in the mirror and it looks like a girl, even with nothing on. Maybe my mind's playing tricks on me. Hell sometimes I think I might be getting gyno, maybe it's because I gained like 5 pounds?
I'm also really into, like, my body turning female and stuff, that whole AGP fetish, so maybe that's the source of everything. Also very sub and into guys too. Maybe I'm just a femgen but with AGP. Dangerous mix right?
>>6457557
Either you're AGP as hell or entirely forgot to mention your extreme dislike for your male characteristics which are causing you depression and thoughts of suicide?
>>6457621
I guess I'm AGP as hell, have been since puberty (26 now). Obsessed with trans stuff and researching things too and going on forums like these. Decided I was 100% trans and even went to doctor+therapist, but got cold feet and instead went full throttle femgen over the years following, but still always think about transitioning too. My theory is that the more fem I get it's just feeding into the fetish, like a vicious cycle...I try to resist, but I'm even way more fem than I was then
I don't really have much male characteristics to begin with, but the stuff that is there, yeah, it'd be better if I didn't have them. I think hate is a strong word, also never felt suicidal. Getting mistaken for a girl feels really wonderful and complimentary, but probably just the fetish talking.
I guess an ideal would be to be able to look just like a girl but still be just a guy and not trans cause I'm not trans but still a girl but still not but but...
Just made my first timeline XD
>>6457704
You can choose the tumblr narrative and take HRT to live as a woman as a lifestyle choice like so many are doing these days. Just be aware of the risks and challenges. And talk to a fucking therapist first.
>tfw can't tell if genuinely questioning or just considering it because my boyfriend is trans and I'd love to have an "answer" for my depression and anxiety
Is inhousepharmacy still a valid choice for getting hormones to self-med? I haven't recieved my spiro I ordered like 6 weeks ago
>>6458541
Nabbed by customs perhaps? In which case, not the seller's fault.
i want to try some different makeup looks but i dont want to do that with makeup that requires some more of an investment, so im thinking of buying a generic pallet to test what i want. any tips on something just fine?
>>6457557
PROTIP: Femgen is literally repressiongen but for manlets.
You'll notice all the "inspo" pics in that general are basically young hons who could never pass.
"Femboys" attempt to "troll" trannies by bragging about how secure they are being a "qt femboy" and not an "ugly hon"
>>6460382
Insecure tranny detected
>>6460386
suuuuure buddy :)
>>6459619
Do you have Amazon Prime? You can return makeup products without question and get refunded the full amount. It's what I do.
>>6461100
I guess I could, but that sounds like a lot of work
>>6461134
Signing up for Prime might be work, but the return process is not.
Anyway, you could also consider finding a nearby salon or beauty boutique and ask for a consultation.
>>6459619
Just buy cheap shit off ebay or wherever
If I tuck now and don't ever untuck ever again (except for washing) how long will it take to go sterile? Also, does killing my verility affect testosterone production in any way?
>>6464091
>does killing my verility affect testosterone production in any way?
no
How can I get the courage to come out?
>>6465829
you dont. you suck it up and just do it. feels great
>think I'm trans (pretty sure I am)
>refuse to ever transition
should I just save myself the trouble and kill myself now
>>6465940
>refuse to ever transition
Why?
>>6465974
It's less scary to just try to ignore it.
I don't want anyone to know I'm a weak person that wants to be a girl.
Probably wouldn't pass.
etc
>>6465940
Let's transition together, anon! I was in your shoes a few hours ago, but now I'm inspired, and I believe that it can be done.
>>6465979
So you'd rather kill yourself than try to improve your situation? Pretty dumb imo.
>>6466000
It's a lot less scary to do that compared to someone finding out I wish I was a girl.
Progynova and Estrofem are both 84 tabs of 2mg on qhi, but Progy is less than half the cost. Anyone used Progynova to transition? Really need to save money right now.
>>6466028
Estrofem is oestradiol hemihydrate, Progynova is oestradiol valerate. The same oestrogen is there either way; the difference is the substance that it's bound to in order to make it practical to administer.
From cursory investigation they're both fine to use, but valerate is absorbed more quickly. They're both used for MtF HRT.
>>6466028
just take hormones and don't tell anybody
that's what i'm doing. since i'll never actually look like a girl, i won't have to
My dysphoria began in the summer of 2014 and I've had 4 episodes since then. It see to come on strongest in the summer.
I suffer from schizophrenia and take medication for it (since early 2014)
Is there a possibility that my feelings are solely caused by my medication? As I'm well aware of any delusions and my feelings don't come across that way.
Alright, so I got some Estradiol and Spiro tonight (!!) and I just took my first dose at 10 pm, because the prescription doesn't indicate a specific time at all. But after taking it, I got curious, googled around, and found out that it may be better to take the pills in the morning.
So my questions are: is it better to take them in the morning? If yeah, should I take them again at 10 am tomorrow? Or is that too soon, and instead, should I just wait until the day after?
>>6470272
Take half in the morning, the other half in the evening.
For example:
>100mg Spiro + 2mg Estradiol at 6am
>100mg Spiro + 2mg Estradiol at 6pm
>>6470334
And then do I continue with that dose or take the whole dose in the morning?
>>6470375
you take your doses 12 hours apart, so half in the morning half in the evening.
>>6470387
ah okay. Thanks a bunch anon!! I'm so excited to start this.
>>6470334
FYI: You do this because of the medication's short half-life.
>>6470392
What the other anons said. I take:
50mg Spiro & 2mg Estra at 9:30am
2mg Estra at 3:30pm
50mg Spiro & 2mg Estra at 9:30pm
This keeps the medication at its most efficacy and keeps your moods up and down more naturally.
>>6470588
do you really need to be taking 6mg
>>6470655
It's what my doctor put me on after 6 months anon. I dunno but things have been better so I mean...sure why not. I trust her.
I was just surprised I didn't need more than 100mg Spiro in a day to have my T levels sit at 10.
>>6470655
The usual dosage is 4mg but some need 6mg or even 8mg to get their hormone levels in the right range.
>>6470688
okay fair enough, just was concerned that maybe you were selfmedding.
>>6470724
Goodness no, I'm fortunate to live in an area where that's not necessary and I was terrified of the risk anyway.
fyi I'm 18 originally male and heavily questioning something between genderqueer or female.
>>6470790
I just like, need some advice, don't know what I want or need
>>6470790
Kashimashi?
>>6470800
Pardon?
>>6470811
The image.
>>6470800
Ohh, no boku girl.
>>6470813
But yeah basically I just get a really tight feeling in my chest reading about the scenario and it makes me wish it was that easy to just become one like that, but I'm also afraid that if I decide to go through with it, I might end up changing my mind and not wanting to be a girl anymore.
Pre everything could there be anything i can do to pass left is me trying but i was afraid of putting on make up and not being able to take it off
>>6444057
I realise you arnt a doctor but
Could I have your HRT advice?
Im currently on 3mg of Dexamethsone and 1mg of fludrocortisone,
Would it be safe to add 2mg of estrofem each day?
>>6471323
how about you stop pushing people and let them make there own damn decisions
>>6471378
>there
desu wana feel like poop just come here kageshi.com/rooms/tggs but you will get attacked i promess lol
Would wearing a wig be best whilst my hair grows out if I take the plunge and enter girlmode?
>>6472033
If it is a good quality wig then I think it would probably be fine. If people can easily tell it is a wig though you would probably get clocked more often.
>>6444057
So to those of you on injections I have five questions.
1. What size sharps container do you use?
2. About how long does each last you/how much can you stick in there?
3. Do you just put the needles in or the syringes too?
4. How much does each container cost you?
5. Who do you get your containers from and who disposes of them?
>>6474892
1. 10in H x 3in W x 3in D approximately
2. Probably up to 30 needles if not more.
3. Both.
4. Free (insurance).
5. I get them from the pharmacy and dispose of them at the pharmacy.
After 18 years,my body decided to start nuking me with T,just when i decided to get help so that I can transition,it makes me feel so bad,even when I say it to myself it sounds stupid,but from 1 month ago to now,I have grown more body hair,my muscles are developing,kind of,even thought i spend my days sitting on a chair,trying that it do never happen,and even thought my bone(and sometimes all the body) structure has always been feminine,Im afraid it can change now.Now looking at myself and these changes makes me feel even more depressive...
I know you cant help me with that,but i really needed to tell this to anyone,just,whoever that wants to read it...thanks...
so like have any of you got the chance to play the tranny version
imgur.com/a/47iEd
:D its funny af
How do I even know if what I feel is dysphoria? How do I know it's not like poor self esteem or regular body dysmorphia that happens to coincide with male features (like body hair).
>>6475257
>rev.jpg
Wait a second, is this based on me?
>>6475257
god mtfg makes me ashamed to be an mtf
>>6475257
burn /mtfg/ to the ground
How do I stop feeling embarrassed about wanting to be a girl, anons? It's so lame. I should be a big, strong, man, but all I want is to be a freaking girl. I can't help but feel pathetic for it.
>>6476156
you don't
>>6476156
you accept that in this day and age, you don't need to be a "big, strong man". We're not hunters and gatherers anymore, you can actually choose what you want to do. Why care about what you "should" be? There's no such thing as something you "should" be. Just be whatever makes you happy.
>>6476623
Why do you feel weak though?
>>6476156
Just remind yourself that it's not your fault you desire that. I don't like being this androgynous freak that constantly gets stares - they're not even bad stares, there is no hate or malice or disgust in them, they're just stares, and I know exactly why I keep getting them and keep catching people staring at me. I constantly feel like there's a spotlight on me in public and I always feel like people are looking at me. But I remind myself that it's not my fault that I feel more comfortable in my skin like this, and it's not my fault that I have to choose between hating the shit out of my existence and being an oddity.
You don't stop being embarrassed, you just accept what you are and stop worrying about it. Eventually it's too taxing to give a shit and you just say fuck it and go about life not caring about it, just existing as you are and not letting it bother you that you're not normal by any means.
>>6476631
By being girly, sharing my actual emotions, letting go of male mannerisms and speech, wearing soft and more form fitting clothes. It seems like a recipe to get hurt. I feel like it's all frivolous even though it is all stuff that I've wanted to do since forever. Even worse, I'm on hormones and still feel this way.
>>6476632
Thanks, anon!
>>6476731
It just takes time, and that stuff starts washing away on its own as you get more comfortable with yourself. I'm not trans exactly, but basically I wanted to be a soft effeminate twink and I used to be far from it. I was pretty much just a normal dude in appearance, mannerisms, behavior, etc. I started taking androcur and estradiol and over the course of years my masculine mannerisms and "normal straight guy" shit all went away. It was a very slow process that naturally developed, and it took years. Over time I slowly relaxed, and broke what used to feel like taboos. Now I'm this rather effeminate faggot, behavior-wise, even though at first it felt like I'd never be able to act like this without feeling weird.
>>6475257
Seriously, is this picture supposed to be me?
The fuck?
>>6476156
I wish I didn't feel like this. I feel guilty too.
Women act inferior in so many ways but I still want to be one.
Somethings wrong with me.
>>6477493
What do you mean ?
>>6477524
?
>>6477530
I'LL BUTTER MY BREAD WITH YOUR BIG BOOTY BUTT BUTTER I'M A BIG CRAZY LOONI BIRD
i told my doctor that i'm trans because i was bored, they took me seriously for some reason.
i'm on hormones for about two month now.
are there more people like me and this is all just a scam?
btw my nipples hurt a little bit when i touch them and it's freaking me out.
I'm 22, LGBT, is it too late for me to be having this gender crisis that I seem to be having?
I was a late bloomer, (bio female) didn't get my period till 17. Maybe I didn't get fucked before because of that? I've just been increasingly uncomfortable and its noticeably stressing me out, but I'm so ashamed, or rather, afraid of what my close friends will think since I feel like I am kind of old to be starting to feel like this... My family would never accept it,they almost shit themselves when they thought I was a lesbian. What do?
>>6477578
Every woman I know acts like a child, can hardly be responsible for themselves, is overemotional, etc.
Why would I want to be a woman when they're like that?
Not to mention being physically weaker, etc.
Like, women are all these bad things, and I want to be a woman more than anything, it's the only thing I've ever wanted, but it's not logical because why would I want to become weaker?
>>6477672
I meant physically weaker than a man.
>>6477714
I don't want to be like all those bad things but pretty much every woman I know is like that so wouldn't hormones make me like that ?
Also any man that works out the same and a bunch of me who work out less are stronger than those women.
>>6477749
>Every twink on /fit/ claims that. It’s characteristic of anorexic people to think that they are huge and muscular.
Nothing to do with being anorexic, the average man is stronger than the average woman and men put on muscle easier, and their muscle is denser.
>>6477749
Well I can't know how hormones would make me act unless I took them, and unless I did as far as I'd know I'd be the same as I am now.
Acting like I do now but as a woman would make me seem "independent" or something like that.
It's hard to talk about things I haven't experienced.
I'm just caught up in being ashamed of what I want.
>>6477807
Can you put on a trip so we can filter you, muscle fetishist ?
>>6477807
I think you would be a good fit on tumblr
>>6477612
>why do no women want to be dickgirls
Tbh my plumbing is most of what causes me dismay. Sex in general, really. I like my androgynous face and body (flat is justice?) But sex is horribly awkward and embarrassing, and I don't even like masturbating because it feels icky and wrong. All of my fantasies have always involved being a top, even when I was young, I always had this facination with penises and what they would be like to have, and I always just thought I was really into gays or some shit. But as I got older I started to realize that it seemed a little deeper than that, and its just gotten worse and worse. I don't want to be some muscley bara hunk, but I'm not super feminine to begin with.
>>6477870
I know how you feel anon.
It's hard for me to even think about having sex because I always imagine myself as having girl parts and it's just weird. I don't have to be super feminine but I definitely want to be a girl.
>>6477877
you don't need a trip to report people
>>6477884
I know.
>>6477877
>confirmed for lunatic
We can report you now, moron. Your posts are all the same musclegirl shilling.
>>6477936
you sound like a legit nut
seriously? he got banned for that?
i mean it was kind of annoying but still..
>>6475010
Even though you're the only one who responded, I now have some idea of what to expect. Thank you.
>>6445519
10 mg injections per week are not 10 mg of pills per day.
I've been repressing myself the past year or so by getting /fit/ and with my dysphoria coming back, I don't want to lift but at the same time I've built a habit.
How detrimental to transitioning (if doctors and gender therapists think that's best) would lifting 2-3 times a week be to me body shape wise? Would my muscles and body automatically "tone down" whilst on HRT?
>>6478908
Muscles will shrink a lot from testosterone depriviation alone.
Just keep lifting if it makes you happy or switch to high rep exercises only.
>>6478908
>Would my muscles and body automatically "tone down" whilst on HRT?
Yes, at a given exercice level you'll have less muscle than without.
It's not detrimental, though you may want to channel the lift craving into cardio or exercice that get da booty big. (/fit/ certainly has a sticky about that)
>>6478928
exercise*
But yeah, lift if you want to lift.
Supposing transgenderism is real and I'm not just crazy or a fetishist or whatever the alternative answer is how is parroting the opposite sex anything but absurd? There's no way that someone who hasn't been (fe)male their entire life can understand what being (fe)male means; that someone who is surgically and hormonally modified caricature of the opposite sex could know what it means to live in the actual body they imitate. I understand that this is very rude and a lot of you will take offense to this but I need to know how you justify it. If the result was a brand new life in a new body of course it would make sense but in reality I just don't see the benefit of transsexualism.
>>6479565
Don't you want to try to be happy ?
Been on HRT for 4 days. My dose is 2mg of estradiol Valerate and 50 mg of Spiro each day.
Do mental changes happen like really quick? Because i almost started to cry for no reason when my mother was complaining that i keep a grudge against her and don't talk to her and then started laughing non stop.
>>6479565
the benefit is not suffering from gender dysphoria anymore
it outweighs any cons for everyone that transitions
>>6479994
Mood swings are common for anyone having drastic hormonal changes.
I started hrt about a month ago and was wondering where these patches are on the dosage level.
"Contains 3.2mg Estradiol" "Absorption rate: 50micro grams per day"
I'm guessing it will be adjusted/increased when I have blood tests done in 2 months but I was still wondering.
I've only noticed an emotional change so far. However my parents and voice therapist have said my face looks different, I don't see any changes though.
>>6480279
http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/trans?page=guidelines-feminizing-therapy
Scroll down.
>>6457704
Even if you're AGP, it would still be beneficial for you to transition into being full-time female.
AGP aren't "not trans", just a different kind of trans. This is agreed on by basically everyone who studies trans stuff professionally.
>>6480661
AGP is a fetish. It's not to be confused with gender dysphoria and doesn't necessitate transitioning.
>>6480697
All the literature disagrees with you, but okay.
>>6480708
Could you explain? Maybe our understanding of AGP is different.
I don't get why someone would go through the burden of transitioning and modifying their body with expensive surgery/medication for a perverse sexual interest they can simply do at home when they're horny. AGPs don't necessarily feel discomfort about their gender, so why would they go to such lengths to live life as the opposite one?
I'm looking at therapists in Kentucky, is there anyone here who can vouch for Joanna Morse? It looks like she's the only one I can afford :c
>>6480722
>don't necessarily
That's the important part. You can be AGP and trans at the same time, even though many AGP people aren't trans. Even if you disagree with that because of your definition of "trans", just read things like the AGP general or the case studies on Anne Lawrence's site to see evidence that AGP people can still experience severe gender dysphoria.
File name related.
>>6481477
I fucked it. Anyway, fucking how? How does one come out looking like this? Do they just have an endless pool of wealth? What do they do for a living that they can afford to spend so much time on this?
>>6481496
the hair's a wig
the face is manny
body is okay
you have low standards
She looks better than me though :/
>>6481496
Genetics, possibly hard work. And the secret every woman hides: deceiving camera angles.
>>6481496
Be young and/or lucky with your body when you start hormones. If you have neither of those things then surgery can compensate to an extent.
>What do they do for a living that they can afford to spend so much time on this?
What do you mean by "so much time"?
>>6481518
Yeah. There's actually a whole video. I'm actually not transitioning or anything, since I'm afraid to give it a shot unless I got results like that.
>>6481525
How young is young? I'm 22. I assume that person has invested SIGNIFICANT resources into acquiring their form, and their place looks kinda nice in the video that the pictures are from, so I assume that not only did they do really well with their body, but also in life as well. I could very easily be mistaken, but I just get this feeling they've got money pouring into their hands.
>>6481538
>I'm afraid to give it a shot unless I got results like that
Are you saying it's not worth being a woman if you're not pretty?
>>6481511
>low standards
>She looks better than me though :/
You are so bitter. She's a solid 8
>>6481556
not them, but it's not worth being a woman if no one will ever believe it.
>>6481566
You don't need to be a 10/10 supermodel to be a woman.
>>6481602
did you even read what i said? lol.
>>6481612
People will believe you're a woman even if you're not a 10/10 supermodel.
What am I not getting?
>>6481630
no one ever said supermodel.
>>6481538
>How young is young?
"Young" is misleading. It's the combined product of age and genetics. If you're really feminine then you can pass decently starting in your 40s. If you're really masculine then you could be totally fucked by the time you're 16. If you start at like 11 years old it doesn't matter how masculine you are because you haven't even (or barely have) gone through puberty, so while you'll could still masculine you won't be manly; if you were so masculine that you still wouldn't pass then you're just really unlucky, and it would've been the same even if you'd been born female.
> assume that person has invested SIGNIFICANT resources into acquiring their form
Well, no matter how much money they have, there is no surgery to feminise the bone structure of the body and their body is apparently very feminine (though the way they're standing makes it difficult to tell), so it implies they just started young. Facial feminisation surgery, breast implants, and general beauty treatments are basically all that you can do, and those are limited. It's not magic.
>>6481646
we have different standards, and i respect that.
>>6481654
Fair enough.
I was just wondering if that person is like some who think transition isn't worth it if they don't come out more attractive as if beauty is all that matters.
