Watch the crowds go nuts at the Russia - Wales match and the Russians will still deny being in the wrong. Also Zikalympics hype.
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Any NFL fans here ?
How many of you guys were influenced by yaoi or gay porn? Pic related, my husbando.
>>6419074
Fuck off
>>6417937
I thought about this a lot before I transitioned and it was a big reason why it took me so long to transition. But when I sat down and thought logically about it I realized it was bullshit.
If manga/porn/media in general can influence someone to want to change their gender or sexuality, there is way way WAY more media out there encouraging you to be a straight female than there is media encouraging you to be a gay male. If media can really convince you to want to be one gender or the other, how come only the gay stuff "worked" on you? How come it doesn't "work" on the vast majority of other AFAB people?
If it's possible for a gay man's brain to be born into a female body, what kind of media do you THINK he'd be drawn to? Doesn't it actually make a lot of sense for a babby gay man, no matter what his body looks like, to enjoy watching/reading gay shit? Why would you expect anything different from him?
Being trans can and does exist in conjunction with other feelings, behaviors, and biases. You can be trans and ALSO have weird fetishes. You can be trans and ALSO have issues with misogyny. You can be trans and ALSO have unhealthy fixations on things. Etc. This doesn't mean one is the cause of the other or that they're even related. We're all human and we can't expect our transness to exist in a sterile vacuum.
It's really important to recognize when questioning becomes self-sabotage. Ask yourself how you would feel setting the same expectations for other people as you do for yourself. So if you were a counselor or something, would you feel like you were being unfair by expecting people to not be into gay porn or to not have any fetishes or whatever?
I stopped doubting myself when I realized that yeah, I would feel like a shitty person if I told other people the stuff I was telling myself. It was a big red flag that my doubts were just a way of sabotaging my own attempts at happiness.
Questioning is healthy but don't sabotage yourselves, anons.
>>6419026
as far as football goes I'm more of a ncaa fan (specifically sec)
no one i know is really into nfl either unless their makin bets, dunno why.
>>6419211
exactly
Can we do the thing where we all post selfies again? I kinda need the hugbox.
>>6419211
shut up Maki..
>>6419393
Only if you're a qt like jigglypuff
>>6420107
goddam it I thought this was femgen... r u reall maki.. ,_,
>>6419142
I actually didn't transition for a long time because I preferred men and couldn't make sense of the fact that I liked men despite wanting to be one.
I didn't really like and still don't care for being penetrated vaginally - it feels weird? Sex was always weird for me, I'd just focus on the fact that I was getting to interact with a dick and that's what got me through a lot of my initial sexual encounters. I began to focus more on anal and handjobs with my first BF until we nearly stopped having vaginal altogether.
I was never into yaoi though, even when I was still living femme and had friends who were super into yaoi, I never could get into it.
I still can't.
Actual gay porn made for gay men though was hot as fuck to me.
And still is.
end blog.
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>>6419142
Bullshit. Lesbian MTFs acknowledge that they're AGPs who just have a fetish and no neurological reason to be tran whatsoever. Gay FTMs should own up to the fact that they're AAP then.
Though I guess we shouldn't expect accountability from women, kek.
>>6420450
>Lesbian MTFs acknowledge that they're AGPs
Except that's literally not true..
>>6420370
I've only had vaginal sex a few times. When I was a teenager I would freak the fuck out whenever I attempted it with my bf. I would feel bad about not giving him sex and tell him we could try but I'd end up sobbing in the fetal position before we even got anywhere close to actually having sex. This probably should have been a clue that I was trans but I didn't know trans men existed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oh well hahaha not like I'll never get those years of denial back or anything oh wait
>>6420484
did you ever read an mtf thread here desu nigga
Guys, I really like vaginas and I really can't get off to porn without a vagina in it. I don't know if its because I have one or because its just a fetish. Either way it makes me disphoric when I can't get off to gay porn when I'm gay myself and see myself as a man. I don't know how to feel about this.
>>6420511
Yeah, mtfs (especially transbians) say agp doesn't real and they shit on Blanchard constantly. Mostly because it reveals transbians as just being straight male crossdressers like Bruce Jenner, and transbians get butthurt since it hits a little too close to home for them.
>>6420650
So gay FTMs are similarly engaging in denial then. Bueno.
>>6420450
What if I'm bi with a heavy preference for men? Is it still AAP, or are bisexuals just excluded from this kind of shitflinging?
>>6421233
m8 let it go
>>6420593
You probably can't get off without self inserting as the one with the vagina, since that's what you have irl. Maybe trying playing around with your ass (toys?) when you masturbate so you can self insert into gay porn more easily (because you know how it feels)
what are some good haircuts for dudes with round chubby faces, a soft jaw, and a big forehead? this is my first time getting my hair cut this short and i really dont want to look like a lesbian
>tfw your medium binder is getting too big and doesn't bind you properly
>tfw a small binder is too small still though
Literally why.
>>6422217
Shorter on sides, longer on top. Find a pic of a man with similar features and bring it with you to a barbershop
During my teenage years I loved my 32DD boobs and even wanted them bigger but now I think I'm a guy so if I bind every day with an underworks binder will they get saggy or have stretch marks after awhile? In case I don't want to be a guy anymore I don't want to have saggy gross boobs if I'm a girl again.
I'm gay, and I'm with a guy.
I'm also pre-transition.
He says he's okay with it, despite being straight, and that he wants to stay with me.
I feel a lot of guilt about putting him through this.
Anyone else experience this?
>>6419393
you start
i'm not gonna because i look girly as fuck, but i'm always curious what the other anons posting here look like
>>6420447
>tfw 4evercloseted
>>6422861
transtrender get out
>>6422897
>despite being straight
red flag
>>6422908
I'm just trying to figure out who I am and be comfortable with it. I admit I'm scared of permanently damaging my boobs in case this is wrong.
>>6422982
Yiss. Help me. I just wanna be gay with him.
>>6423083
Suck his dick, famalam
>>6422217
I've had a low ponytail for 9 years since I was 11, would recommend to anyone, only viable haircut to ever exist/10
Is a binder damaging to bigger boobs or not
>>6418918
sports?
>>6423806
SPORTS!
Sports are boring
Am I fakescum?:^)
>>6422897
Lol I'm in the same situation as you. No advice, other than that he's most likely going to dump you (unless he's bi). I've just accepted that once I go on mones, I'm going to become less and less attractive to him. But since that's not happening for at least another month or so, I'm just gonna ride out with the sex and companionship I'm getting right now. I think we both kind of accept that.
>>6422897
>>6423887 here. Also does he respect your name/fact that you're a guy/pronouns or whatever? If he does then I'd just say casually date, but if he can't accept the fact that you're a guy, don't put up with that and at the very least have a conversation (but you might have to dump him because life is too short to be with people that don't accept who you are).
>>6422861
They will definitely sag and have stretch marks. There's no way around it.
I didn't want to bind because I didn't want saggers (they're big and """perky""". I didn't want them to touch me, ew) but there's nothing you can do. I resigned myself to boobtouch.
You're probably not trans.
>>6423870
sports are for normalshites
>>6422861
No. You will need to get a boobjob if you decide you want them back. Even wearing bras causes back pain, sagging, and stretch marks (breasts grow better and healthier without bras but you can't really go around not wearing them unless you're really flat)
Also, with breasts that big even a binder couldn't help you. You'd have to get surgery if you ever hoped to pass
Take a good hard look as to why you want your breasts and why you think you're male because you can't have both
So is it a good idea to start out completely skelly when going on T to avoid female fat distribution? Anyone tried this?
>>6424040
That was me last November and I didn't know until I started T that I had stubborn fat on the back of my thighs because suddenly it was gone in a month and left me with slimmer legs and a perky round butt. I've since developed muscle everywhere and gained 20lbs. I still look very slim but healthier.
umm can a trans girl ask for advice on how to give oral to a guy on t? Im into guys, but have never been with one with that particular configuration before this one dude im dating.
>>6423006
transtrender confirmed
just... be somewhat androgynous instead of going full-trans without having dysphoria.
let me guess, you're genderqueer or some bs like this? just... no
>>6423901
Wrong gen troll-kun
>>6424211
I'm nb and femme until recently cause it got boring trying to catfish guys. I became interested in women again and also aware that presenting masculine gives me power over women and gets me favors from society as a transman. I like using people and getting benefits but not at my own expense.
>>6424274
Troll-kun dominates all boards.
>>6422861
I "liked" my boobs a lot before realizing I was trans and used that as one of the reasons why I possibly couldn't be trans. In reality- my tits were the one and only thing I saw value in myself when I was depressed and used as my only bragging point when shittalking the girls who fucked me over in school.
Binding your tits IS gonna make them sag and have stretch marks.
That being said, there's just a certain point where being a female is too miserable to bare anymore and when you feel like you're just faking it day to day in girlmode you won't give a shit about them anymore- granted you're trans and not a trender
Also, given your breast size (I have about the same size), you're gonna have trouble fitting IN a binder.
>>6422897
He is gonna leave you once you start transitioning. Lesbians and straight men cannot stand being with someone transitioning into a man. Leave him before he leaves you senpai
>>6424562
>there's just a certain point where being a female is too miserable to bare anymore and when you feel like you're just faking it day to day in girlmode you won't give a shit about them anymore
Confirmed.
It just stronger and stronger until you can't really stand any of it.
>>6423965
They're not gonna get you flat flat, but they'll get you most of the way there. Source: 32DD
>>6424562
I was the same way. I liked showing them off, I liked being attractive. I liked being able to flash some cleavage and get whatever the fuck I wanted. And I thought that the only thing I was good for was having boobs. They made me uncomfortable, but it was worth it if people paid attention to me.
I liked my boobs the same way you like memes, if that makes any sense.
But with a binder I feel more comfortable and I feel cuter. Plus if I need attention I can just post in mtfg and passgen and people tell me I'm cute.
>>6424703
My confidence has gone up so much since I transitioned, even being a semi ugly dude is a great life especially with a qt gf
>>6424722
>being a semi ugly dude is a great life especially with a qt gf
Preach it, brother
>>6424722
I'm gay... and in a pretty serious relationship with a straight guy. He wants to stick by me through my transition and has even asked me to marry him.
I get the feeling my life is going to get messy.
>>6424722
I think I looked pretty as a girl. When I look at my old pics, I really think I looked cute. Yet I don't have a bit of regret transitioning, even though I'm not great looking and I'm a lot of work in progress. Now I feel like I found the hole that was made for me.
>>6424755
>If you're in love before you transition then he'll want to be with you even after you become more masculine.
That's what he says. I don't get it, but it touches me a great deal that he says he feels this way. I just hope he's not being crazy optimistic.
>>6424755
Isn't always thinking you're always just a moderately ugly guy just part of being a trans dude?
It's easy to just be average the only validation I needed was to be gendered as male. Now that I've been on T this long and I'm stealth so I'm confident and have stopped giving a fucks.
>>6424755
>I started transitioning before I figured out I was male so I never was in "girl mode" I accepted who I was and so did mostly everyone else. Feels good man.
I was in tomboy mode for most of my life past the age of 5
In my desperate attempt to deny I was transgender I went all girly and feminized, skirts, makeup, growing out my hair
it was the worst senpai
>>6424202
See http://helpfultransinfo.tumblr.com/post/66324989584
>>6424929
Ugly before and I'm still ugly so nothing has really changed.
>>6424929
nah i look good
>>6425161
Hello Elliot :^)
>>6419074
you have a good taste with husbandos.
the majority of ftmg where fujoshis fag hags obssessed with gays when were women, even if they don't admit it.
>>6425226
I was into a few ships but I grew out of it.
>>6424722
Semi ugly mediocre dudes are still living life on easymode. You were probably an ugly lesbian, so life was nothing but hell.
>>6423870
nah
feel bad you'll never have the joys of getting hammered in celebration after your team wins with your bros though.
>>6424988
ayy same here, tomboy mode most of my life but once I realized I was trans in hs I went so far reverse into feminine that I had a hard time even recognizing myself anymore, took years to undo all the extra depression / anxiety i got after that shit. 0/10 experience.
>>6425721
I don't drink. Being an alcoholic runs in both sides of my family.
>>6425791
sorry to hear that not much of a drinker myself,
really only drink when I'm out during/after a game, other than that it's pot or sober for me.
>>6425787
Damn son
I didn't get too far in femininity. By the time I dropped out of public school I dropped femininity too
>>6426051
yep after my senior year of highschool i took 2 years off from school to kind of "find myself" again cause i really didn't have any idea who I was anymore I had completely lost any identity I once had before.. and got some much needed therapy.
I think that's one of the worst ways to deal with possibly being trans, it really messes you up mentally.
>>6426109
>I think that's one of the worst ways to deal with possibly being trans, it really messes you up mentally.
This. I see a long time friend and ex of mine struggling with this same thing too. It's kind of sad and I'm trying to help them through this to the best of my ability.
why do trans dudes always wear suspenders and a bow tie. its silly.
>>6426341
We don't. You're cherry picking.
>>6426341
only the ones who watch too much dr who do that
a better stereotype for ftms would be xl hoodies, and substance abuse tbqh
>>6422861
I waist trained and wore the biggest push up bra you can imagine for the longest time to try to finally feel happy with my body because I thought I just needed to "feel sexy" to feel like a girl, and it would make me stop hating my body, but man, it only made it worse and I would just feel incredibly uncomfortable
>>6425226
too deep in yaoi
>>6426488
too tru
What are the potential long term health effects of T? I've heard liver failure is a possibility.
Pls respond
>>6426488
>xl hoodies and substance abuse
I can't believe my life is a meme
>>6424755
>If you're in love before you transition then he'll want to be with you even after you become more masculine.
this is absolutely not true and you shouldn't say shit like this lol
for some people transitioning won't change their feelings but for some people it will. being "in love" has absolutely nothing to do with it
>>6427453
Okay lol
If you want people to take you seriously, you should try ending your sentences without using lol. It just makes you sound passive aggressive lol.
>>6427366
no worries familia, so is mine
>>6427485
i don't care what your opinion is on my "lol" or whether or not you take me seriously because of it. i'm just trying to give advice to someone who is clearly headed into a shitty situation and who is being told by people like you that everything will work out because ~love wins~ or somesuch other unrealistic mushy bullshit.
protip: love does not always win. sometimes it does but sometimes it doesn't. life is not a fucking romcom and the only thing you can do is hope for the best while preparing for the worst.
>>6427570
Someone's buttblasted lol. Did your hubby leave you after you started to look like a man lol?
>>6427592
not at all. i left her after when she started to look like a woman.
we were together for 13 years and our lives are much better now that we're apart and didn't try to force the relationship to work. we both would have been miserable. now, instead of a resentful romantic partner in a sexless relationship, we have in each other friends who know us completely, who we trust completely, who we consider family. and it's pretty clear to me which one of those relationships is healthier and more productive for both of us.
please stop propping up this cult that worships unerring lifelong romantic commitment to the complete exclusion of every single other option for interpersonal relationships. it's okay to stop feeling romantically or sexually attracted to your partner. it doesn't mean your relationship was a failure or worthless or a waste of time and it doesn't mean that your feelings for each other were inferior or incomplete or broken.
>>6427686
Oh so it was the opposite away around lol. Explains the salt lol.
>>6427760
the only thing i'm salty about is you giving shitty, unsubstantiated advice to people in already crappy situations, senpai
>>6427871
Okay desu lol
>>6426488
This hits too hard close to home
>>6425787
yeh me too
ex-highschool cheerleader here
>>6428000
Yeah, past the age of 5 when I stopped being coerced into girly things by my mom I was a big tomboy. Like hanging with guys better, girls were always pretty to look at but too much drama to deal with after time and time of getting fucked over by them.
>>6426488
>xl hoodies, and substance abuse tbqh
shit
>>6427955
I'm not this guy, but seriously. ~*true love*~ doesn't always trump sexuality. Sometimes it does. My girl is sticking with me, and she's the biggest, dykiest butch to ever live on this gay earth. I'm pre-T right now, but I went from being overcompensating levels of girly to almost passing. She will probably leave me once I start to look like a real man. I love her. She loves me. But that may not be enough. It may be, she may be able to look past what I look like. And sometimes it does work.
But sometimes it doesn't, and you have to be prepared for that.
>>6428000
I went through various phases. Tomboy, then overcompensating and uncomfortable, then back to tomboy again. My mom taught me how to act like a lady, and I'd get in trouble when I did unladylike things so I have a lot of female socialization to unlearn.
My mom beat the shit out of me, but she would compliment me and be sweet when I dressed up or did makeup so I would try really hard sometimes so she would love me.
>>6426488
>xl hoodies and substance abuse
>fuck
>>6428215
>doesn't always trump
Say that to my face you little cunt.
Can y'all please stop making feminine trans guys uncomfortable in your spaces? Thanks.
>>6428667
>be me
>no dysphoria
>decide that I'm trans, kinda want to be a dude
>don't use packers, they're kinda uncomfortable
>don't bind, it's uncomfortable and might make my tiddies sag
>fine with the way I look, don't need t
>wear makeup because it makes me look cute, I'm fierce af
>go by skylar, cute gender neutral name
>mfw I don't feel like I belong in trans spaces
>>6428885
TOP LOL'D
>>6428885
i know a bitch like that, she insinst that we need to call him with male pronouns, but she don't want to testorone "bc hormones don't make 1 trans", want to dress feminine, want to appear cute, want 1 "daddy" to buy her panties, want to be treated in a feminine way, the only male thing is her obsessions with gay males, she wants a gay daddy bf apparently.....
>>6428667
How about you go to a fucking nonbinary space.
There's real FTMs and there's nonbinary demiquasiboys who think masculinity is cute and fun. How'd you like to have crippling dysphoria your entire life? How'd you like waiting 3 years for Testosterone? How'd you like having to get a name change, gender change, new birth certificate, new SSC, new drivers license? How'd you like sticking a needle in your thigh or stomach every week for the REST OF YOUR LIFE for slow results? How'd you like to go through multiple risky surgeries....top surgery, hysto/oopho, metoidioplasty/phallo?
It's so easy to be trans isn't it!!! Us binary trans MEN have all this privilege don't we.
>>6428907
Wow that legitimately makes me want to die knowing theres people out there like that, way to go Queer community
>>6428922
Why an ftm would want to be with a cis man is beyond me, you know they'd just view you as female LBR
>>6428954
>Fetishizing "the personality"
>Of ....how many trans men?
cis guys are fucking retards
>>6428907
FUCKING
TRIGGERED
I was joking, I didn't think these people actually existed outside of tumblr aaaaaAAAAAAAHHHH
AAAAARHFLZHSKXGSLDBSK AUGH
I'm going to have an aneurism and die
>>6428965
>>6428960
>autogynephile
>fetishizing FtMs because of an obsession with the female body
shocking
>>6428917
Tintin anon... you're getting buttblasted.
They're clearly a troll don't justify them with a serious response.
>>6428965
>Look for happiness
You'll find it in fucking taking your titty skittles, not in trying to unravel the mysteries of the mysterious ftm soul
>>6429045
>tfw you don't even know anymore because people like that actually exist. and you've met them
BINARY STR8 BROS PLEASE SAVE ME, I HATE BEING TRANS WHEN ITS ACCEPTABLE FOR CIS GIRLS TO USE OUR LABEL
>>6429066
Well, it's hardly acceptable - they still get shit from both 'the cissies' and trans people. Think of it this way, while they're their drawing the ire of cis people because they're loud, obnoxious, and nonconfirming to any standard of gender, it's helping you to pass (because trannies can only be ridiculous tumblrinas -right?) And if people do find out you're trans, they're likely to respect you more for not being so hostile about trans rights.
>>6428885
>cute
This shit drives me nuts.
>>6428000
i wasn't the most masculine tomboy around but yeah, i was a tomboy. when i was a kid i liked playing with boys, roughhousing and doing "tough" stuff like that, and wore a lot of boys' clothes and gender-neutral clothes. i attempted in high school to dress a little more femininely but that didn't last long. serious body dysphoria started in when i was ~15 and between then and when i started transitioning i dressed and presented as butch/androgynously as possible.
>>6428667
I don't understand this comic. The guys in the meeting are just talking about things that interest them/things going on in their lives. What does this artist expect people to do instead? Fake an interest in makeup so they can feel more "comfortable"? I have no problem with feminine trans guys at all but this comic is extremely stupid.
>>6428000
I look like a malfunctioning tard left to fend for himself, forget about handsomeness. I've always been the same, same one friend since I was 6, grew up indoors playing couch co-op games with him. Teen years spent indoors playing WoW, with same friend. Still friends with the same guy, been doing the same shit for 20 years. Only new things I embraced are assembling PCs for myself and going to Uni. I still spend all my freetime indoors browsing here and playing
>>6428667
>Thanks.
filthy
I did it. I finally properly injected myself. Jesus I'm a tard.
I don't want to be trans anymore. Fucking kill me.
>>6430166
Do it yourself faggot
is there any good binders decent for summer?
It's so hot where I am and I have to work outside most of the summer so I don't have the luxury of going inside much during the day.
I'm pretty flat, and can more or less get away with not binding and just a big shirt without it being obvious, but I feel uncomfortable not binding.
Is there any decent option out there that's light enough I can do manual labor outside without dying or am I just fucked?
>>6430239
Sports bra
>>6430239
You could do a tight sports bra, or a gc2b half tank. They're smaller, more breathable, and if if does hurt you can go a size up. Sizing up usually gives about the same look but is a hell of a lot more comfortable.
>>6428667
i just noticed the jizzing penis
laughing emptily
Is soccer the most ftm sport ?
>>6430494
Pfft
>>6430503
What its the best sport for ftms to play. Doesn't put too much emphasis on strength and height.
>>6430573
>Powerlifting.
>a sport
team sports are all about cooperation, strategy and skill, powerlifting is for autistics who want the biggest number possible
>>6430452
Don't listen to this fool. Sports bras are intended to allow your breasts to BREATHE and maintains the feminine shape. Sports bras don't work on us. GC2B is the only binder company that actually binds well
>>6430525
I'm an FTM fencer and I really enjoy it. No emphasis on height, I'm 5'6' (tell people I'm 5'7' though lol) and there's plenty of guys on my height range. I played on the Junior varsity baseball team in high school too, baseball is a great FTM sport and also super fun
>>6426925
Higher risk of heart failure, balding, and diabetes.
>>6430595
>he doesn't want the biggest number possible
EAT BIG GET BIG COME ON 4 MORE SCOOPS
>>6418918
Were any of you guys afraid of injecting yourself? Did anything help with the fear?
It's my shot day and I'm sitting here shaking in my boots.
>>6430870
Go for sub q, I have always done it and have gotten results just as fast as IM. It will be ok. You get used to it ....eventually the needle just sucks into your skin, I like to close my eyes before I actually poke myself. Also, it's only once a week/every 2 weeks. The results will make it worth the little pinch which will in no time be not a big deal anymore. Be excited! You're starting your journey as becoming the male you know you are. Don't get too psyched out, it's much less bad than shots you get in your arms.
It will be okay!!! I was so scared of my first shot too. The results are slow at first but other people will notice the changes and it's so reassuring to finally consistently pass
>>6430468
>>6430452
thanks for the help guys
if i go the sportsbra way is there any particular brand to buy? might just go with the binder route though since I'm kinda afraid of this happening
>>6430600
I need somethin to flatten me out as much as possible, not so much for visual aspects since that's not a problem for me binder or not but because I can't stand the feeling.
>>6431316
I'm kinda small chestwise too, and any type of sportsbra makes my chest look male. I recommend going to a discreet sports store and trying on some of the smaller sizes of whatever they have. If the thought of bying bras freak you out try to hide them by bringing some hoodies or tshirts into the changing rooms and when paying just act casual, like you're bying it for your gf or something. It worked for me (I think). Buying online also works but size can be tricky as you want tight and firm but not suffocating, and sometimes it takes ages to find the right fit.
>>6431430
thank you so much, i'm probably going to drive into the city tomorrow, maybe I'll stop by one of the sports / outdoor stores and l see what they have there.
i haven't ever bought a bra so this is gonna be a trip if I end up going this direction
>>6428907
Careful, that one ballistic fujoshit says AAP faghag fujoshit tran "men" can't happen. Don't upset her too much.
Who can I go to to get mones in columbus ohio?
>>6430870
Dude come on it's a little pinch, a quick squeeze and a little bit of blood then it's done.
If this is a barrier to your transition then I dunno man, do you want it enough? Do you have what it takes to leave humanity behind?
Is there any way for a psychological transition? Like since an ftm is a male brain in a female body, is there a way to force the brain to be female to match the body? I'd give anything to fix myself that way and have it actually work. I don't think I could live with the mutilation and social stigma of transitioning. I'd rather just fix it the other way without losing any family or friends. They won't even have to know at all and everything would be fine.
>>6431614
Bitch if there was a way to do that do you think we'd have people transitioning
>>6430525
Hockey is what I played, height wise atleast it's almost an advantage being smaller depending on the position you're playing.. You're not gonna get far being weak though no matter what gender you're playing with/against though.
and if you're scared of the physical contact part of it, you can go the none contact route.
>>6431630
Yeah I doubted there really was such a thing but it couldn't hurt to ask. Or if there was, if it'd be far more difficult than physical transition. Which I'd be okay with if it still worked.
EDIT: Looking it up, conversion therapy seems to be what I was thinking of. But sadly, that doesn't actually work. Just causes horrible trauma with no results and is done by people who really shouldn't be around other people because of the high abuse rates.
If nature hadn't have fucked up to begin with, none of us would be in this mess.
>>6431478
I'm not that guy but like. I straight up panic at needles. Dental work, blood work, stitches, whatever. I get lightheaded, nauseous, pass out, have panic attacks. Sometimes it's not about wanting it enough. I'll personally be doing gel or something.
>>6431712
I do know that feel, I hate getting blood work done... but if it needs doing it needs doing, I just brace for the innevitable anxiety blackout and vomiting that comes with it.
I would recommend seeing a therapist about it, strong phobias should idealy get sorted, and it is worth it since all the dudes here say injecting test is 1000x better than gels and tablets.
>>6431712
i've never used to have an issue with bloodwork other than finding it gross... almost passed out yesterday though... the needle was in and the woman was getting blood and like 2 1/2 small vials in my arm started to feel weird and numb from my elbow to my fingertips and i started to get really lightheaded and shit... felt like i was deaf and my vision was going felt way too warm... then the chick got a nurse and it took a while for me to feel ok again, blood pressure dropped really low and stayed that way for a bit... but after i felt ok so i let them try again twice (2nd time they couldn't get blood and someone else had to come in) and that time they filled 5 big vials with it and i felt totally fine...
the arm that i almost passed out from is bruised kinda bad and was scary swollen for a while... still hurts too...
i'd never want to use injections for t either though... not cuz of needles, but there's just some things someone like me shouldn't get comfortable with, and giving myself injections is one of them...
>>6431835
i never used to* was originally writing "i've never had" and stopped halfway... cuz well that changed... my bad...
hi boys
any of you want to hold me
>>6432033
Nope
>>6430870
no, its just like getting a shot
i do hate injecting my veins when i get blood taken or whatever, but as long as there is a slightly chubby, motherly, mexican nurse there to comfort me, its good
>>6431614
>male brain in a female body
>implying that can happen
>>6432061
lmao
>>6432061
ok : (
hi newfag here,
does anyone have any good exercise links?
>>6432084
Yeah
>>6432086
could you please share them? im desperate desu
>>6432110
What's in it for me?
>>6432151
what do you want?
>>6432165
A cute image
>>6432173
oh fuck, ok.
Will a random photo of me work or? :s
>>6430870
I have never had a fear of needles, but doing my own injections always makes me uncomfortable. I try to just slap and jab as quick as I can.
>>6419026
nah handegg is shit. Your waifu is shit is what I'm getting at.
>>6432206
Of you? God no, why would I want 3D when I want something cute?
>>6432252
ok good
hows this then?
>>6431712
Gel is not covered by insurance and has a very high chance of cross-contamination, you're gonna have to get used to the needles bruh
>>6432272
Too gay. I ain't about that homo shit
>>6432067
wow our wittle hearts are so so hurt
gtfo, being trans is backed up by tons of evidence
>>6432282
what do you like?
>>6432302
Cute lolis doing cute things
>>6432084
just go on t and go to the gym there's nothing that special you must do besides work out your upper body
>>6432303
>
>>6432314
i dont have afford to go to the gym
>>6432328
Go to your community gym
>>6432335
we dont have one v:
>>6432298
Oy vey, post one where it says directly that your brains are male, you delusional vagina.
>>6432328
>Those tits
>A loli
You havin' a giggle m8? I don't mess around with trash images like that. I'll let you know straight up I have a very large collection of images of lolis doing cute things and I'm looking for RARE and HIGH QUALITY images of lolis doing cute things. I don't fucking wake up in the morning for anything less that a 7/10 on the cute scale when it comes to images.
>>6432346
i dont know anything about anime, nor do i have much pictures :c sorry
>>6430239
"Binding" "summer" "comfortable"
>tfw when live on farm
>wear binder all the time while out working for several hours a day, have to replace binders from stink once a month, because it gets to the point it doesn't wash out
>local transtrenders be like "AHHH BINDERS ITS TOO HOT urgh...."
also, has anyone ever actually tried those shapeshifters custom binders?
>>6432328
so do bodyweight exercises or buy dumbbells and like medicine balls and shit and work out at home... you don't have to go to a gym to exercise...
>>6432303
i got u son
>>6430494
MESSIMESSIMESSIMESSIMESSIMESSIMESSIMESSI
>>6432481
yeah it's me... i haven't been good, so i haven't been around... easier to be a miserable bastard on my own than have other people put up with it you know?
idk... some shit's good, some shit's bad... so the usual... i'm waiting on results for 19 lab tests right now, i honestly can't remember all of it... and that crazy guy i mentioned a while back disappeared for a bit but showed up again sunday so that's been fun... but my s/o's new job is working out well and that's always nice...
i've missed you all too... i just know when i'm not fit to be around people you know...
recent pic of gypsy cuz why not...
+ how are you doing?
>>6432470
Post hot muscular anime guys for us homos
>>6432638
how bout some tasty milfs
>>6430003
Hey, don't be down on yourself, it takes a certain degree of logic and stupids to jab a sharp implement into your body. Sure, long term the effects are completely worth it, but your lizard brain is still just gonna see it as jabbing a sharp implement into your body.
Congratulations, man, you have defeated the tiny lizard!
>>6432862
Well see, I posted about it in another thread, but I had been doing it wrong and leaving air in the tip of the syringe, so I wasn't getting my full dosage. A kind anon explained it better to me and everything went well this time.
It's still going to take some time to get used to shoving that fucking needle into myself though. It's not even the pain that gets to me, it's the weird sensation of puncturing muscle that far inside.
>>6432405
Workin outside ain't so bad it'd be way better if the humidity wasn't so high. it may be 98/99 degrees outside but it feels like 108+ most days.
you get used to it, but I only wear my old binders in the summer, that little extra stretch is a god send when you're workin 8 hour shifts outside.
>>6433008
Please leave Makiiii the ftm fetishizer lmao you think we forgot
>>6433205
Also you don't Skype back
>>6432615
Shit man, I'm sorry. I know the feeling of not being fit for humanity.
I hadn't been here for a little while, what happened with the crazy guy?
Gypsy is adorable.
I want to kill myself 24/7 thanks for asking though
>>6432615
hey buddy glad to hear from ya again, we were all worried aboutcha.
What would be a good haircut for me to make me look like a cute twink and suit my round ass face besides the one I already have. I have currenlty given up on trying to look macho super strong as I wont be able to get T for a long time and when I do get T it will take a long time to affect me.
file was too big so have this painting I did last week gph.is(slash)28MHKns 4chan thinks this is spam
>>6433310
inb4 natalie portman is grill I got this haircut and was surprised how masculine I looked afterwards
>>6430870
At about week 17, something just clicked and I resolved my fear and anxiety. It's hard at first, especially if you are scared of needles and no one can help you. In my 8th, 9th, and 15th week I hit veins and bled out like crazy. I think the experience is necessary. You just shake it off and power through it. Once you get through that, you can get through anything. Once you see results, it makes it worth it.
>>6431614
To be honest, I kind of tried this myself. I stopped thinking about it in terms of gender and tried to accept myself as is. I always saw a boy in the mirror though and I just tried to ignore him "I'm not a boy, I'm just myself". The mutilation and social stigma spooked the hell out of me. I decided if I still felt like a boy in ten years, I'd transition. Twelve years later, I'm a man now. My friends and partner probably think I'm a transtrender cause I went from androgynous to femme to androgynous to manly (over-compensating as I waited for hormones to kick in) and now back to male-leaning androgynous.
Fuck this, T is making me grow a unibrow. There's a dark hair right in between my eyebrows and lighter hairs next to it. Is this permanent? My parents don't have unibrows. Do I have to shave this shit for the rest of my life?
>>6433732
Pluck it nbd
>>6433523
While I didn't use this pic as reference, I had a haircut like this too and loved it. Now I'm letting my hair grow out cause T has caused weight gain and changed my facial bone structure and face fat distribution so it feels a lot like pic included.
>>6433776
>Assuming I'm fat
Honestly I'm triggered
what do i do if i want to pass as male but still look like a femboy? i want to have a more androgynous/masculine leaning voice and facial appearance but not a huge clit and body hair.
>>6433811
Oink oink
>>6433810
You can't pick and choose. The only thing that will cause voice changes and facial change is T and it's all or nothing.
>>6432638
Most of mine are nsfw but here's one you fucking fag.
>>6433780
Thanks for telling me that senpai
I'll keep it in mind to grow it out when I get on T
>>6431835
I nearly always feel faint if it's a fasting one - I don't always think it's because it bothers you, I think sometimes it's a question of your body not used to the loss of blood and how low your sugar level is or w.e.
>>6432298
Please don't reply to that repressed hon.
>>6433265
well... there's way more detail here, but the basics are that my s/o met some guy while he was working at the gas station, this ex marine with ptsd (who looks crazy btw... you can see it in his eyes, but anyway...) the guy got weird and creepy and shit (doing things like going to my s/o's job and screaming at other employees trying to get his schedule and shit) and my s/o told him to fuck off, and he was pissy about it... showed up at my s/o's job instead trying to talk to him and so on so my s/o had to leave that job for another one (and he's happier with it so it's worked out well that way at least) but during his break yesterday my s/o was in the parking lot in front of his job and the guy pulled over to say that he saw my s/o 2 weeks ago in a store and then said he took what my s/o said (my s/o isn't always polite, frequently isn't really... but he was that time) personally and then drove away... the guy has a history of weird violent outbursts and shit... it's a longer story than all that but yeah...
and i actually wouldn't say it was a feeling... i just really have a point where i can't be around people and it's better for them and me that i'm not...
i get you on the thinking about suicide shit though... i've been there every day for a while at this point... is it anything you wanna talk about or nah?
>>6433273
sorry for worrying people... wasn'tmy intention and honestly it didn't even occur to me that i would
>>6434471
yeah it can be a matter of blood sugar, but i actually ate quite a bit not long before it happened... so it wasn't that in my case... and they actually took more blood on the 3rd attempt than they did when the first... i think she fucked something up though honestly cuz my other arm is bruised but this one is worse (pic related... this is it today it's way less swollen and fucked up than it was when i got home afterward... my other arm is just 2 small bruises no swelling)
>>6434668
>>6434471
+ it hurts to bend, and sleeping is a bitch and shit... it's sore as fuck, and i actually still have an odd sensation in the area... but yeah... that's it looking significantly better
they said it couldn't have been my blood sugar, they weren't sure why... but i had to finish all the tests cuz of everything wrong so i got stuck waiting it out in the office with people hovering over me scared to leave and shit... i was more anxious and shit doing the other side actually, especially cuz that took 2 attempts, but it looks way different too the bruising is like just a tiny spot in one place and it's gone in the other...
I went for an initial consultation with a private doctor in London about getting hormones months ago and then promptly ran out of money and now I'm fucking sitting with my thumb up my ass waiting for the student loan company to sort itself out so I spend my education funds on the required therapy and checkups to get T. It's been 2 or 3 months now and I'm about to fucking crack my head into a wall.
>>6433810
What the fuck is the deal with all the wannabe femboys, quit reading yaoi cuntbags
>>6433810
>not a huge clit
Why? Probably one of the more exciting changes for me. Watching your downstairs grow and actually get hard/erect is awesome.
I'm tired. I'm so fucking tired of being a tranny. It's literally ruining my life and taking away everything and everyone I love. Normally I'm on the moon after my injections, but all I did was cry after I took it yesterday, thinking about what I'm losing pursuing this shit.
Why can't I just be a girl. Please tell me it gets better. I just want to crawl into a small hole and die.
>>6434991
how long you been on t lad? i understand you might be in the awkward starting inbetween stage, once you get the social benefits and comfort of passing things should feel a lot more worth it
takes time, and practice though
>>6434668
Shit man, are you guys gonna be okay? This dude sounds like some serious bad news, get the police involved if you have to. Even if that's just letting them know what's going on so they can check in every once in a while, and so there's precedent if he actually does try shit.
I get that too. Though for me it's usually a combination of "I don't have the energy to deal with people" and "waaaaah no one likes meeee"
Idk if I can really even talk about it. I'm in therapy and shit but idk if it's helping. Suicidal thoughts are almost just my brain's idle animation now, like "haha yeah this is nice, but you know what would be better? Death!" And I feel like a complete edge lord but I can't help it. My traumas and dysphoria define me, they dictate my life. It will never go away. Shit will never u happen and my brain will never be unfucked. I'm just so tired, man. It's time for me to go.
But of course we'd miss you and worry about you, you dumb faggot. <3
>>6434947
because trans men are less likely to want/need to prove their 'macho masculinity' every 5 seconds
>>6435126
About two months. You're probably right, but this shit is affecting so many of my relationships, especially one in particular that's incredibly important to me. I don't know what to do with myself. I know it's for the best in the long run, but it's really hard getting through these initial steps on my own while losing people I love in the process.
>>6435793
Tell me about the relationships it's affecting, anon
>>6435974
Maki, I spend most of my time on gay gen and you are a cunt.
>>6436209
I only speak the truth
>>6436332
I don't even know who you are, but you must be a massive shitposter because you keep getting banned.
>>6432405
Hahaha have fun with your chronic back pain.
>Been on T for 2 years now my face passes as male
>Don't wear binder anywhere that's not 100% air conditioned, don't wear it on weekends or whenever I'm with good friends
>Partly because my back hurts with it, partly because it's uncomfortable
>Still use male facilities, don't give a fuck
>If I see anyone staring at them I just stare them down until they look away
>Nobody's said anything to me yet
My soul is 2 alpha for this body
Pre everything, just saying before hand. So it seems that I have male pattern fat around my stomach and arms and I've heard that doctors don't tell people when they are intersex. what are the chances that I am intersex and I've just been lied to?
>>6437336
Chance of you being intersex is very low, almost nothing. Most likely you're just fat or that's just the way your fat is normally stored.
>>6437336
I think it's more likely you are fat or have pocs or something. Did you have irregular genitals at birth?
>>6437378
Not that I know pf, and I prefer not to check it out really. I think I just have really high hopes and am looking for something to lean on and describe me.
>>6437336
Fat doesnt always store the same way even with normal females, stupid to assume anything if that's your only "irregularity"
>>6437436
Who cares? Intersexuality isn't gonna magic you a dick - and anyone in your life isn't gonna recognise you as more male because you're intersex - hell tell them you went for a test and found out you are - they can't see if you've got a Y chromosome hidden. Away somewhere or not.
The main thing is to just pass and be as manly as you want to be and in the way you want to be. And if that's still not enough for you: ignore that shitposting hon, and realise that, in a way, transsexuality is a form of intersexuality anyway
I need some serious help. For context I'm post top surgery and 3 years HRT.
I feel like I'm questioning my gender again or thinking of detransitioning but I don't understand why. I always had bad dysphoria over my chest, genitals, and other physical things, yet I have these thoughts of being a cute little girl girl with a big strong bf. It mostly goes away after a fap, but it's there sometimes when I'm not aroused too.
Added to this I don't really pass and I'm very short, so I'm very far from being traditionally masculine. Sometimes I feel like "why did I bother?" I don't think of myself as a man at all, and my family calling me he, son, etc is starting to get to me. I feel like they are all playing along with an obvious delusion.
At the same time, even if I DID think I was wrong about my gender... I was severely depressed my entire life and Testosterone made it go away. A few days before my shot, and if I skip shots (I'm lazy..) the depression comes back. So I don't think I could detransition if I even wanted to. Why do I have to be plagued with these shitty insecurities? I just want to be able to say that I'm a real man and I'm satisfied with that, but I can't.
>>6438026
And another thing I want to add is that I have this deep-seated disgust towards women. I view them as weak, useless, imperfect humans. I keep these thoughts to myself and appear to be very egalitarian, which rationally I do believe in equality. Sometimes I think this internal sexism was the driving force behind my transition, but I don't know.
>>6438026
>It mostly goes away after a fap,
AGP
>>6418918
>>6422897
I went through the same thing. My boyfriend stayed attracted to me, and in fact our sex life improved (for various reasons, most likely). So maybe he isn't as straight as he thought.
There are no guarantees, but there's always a chance.
For some reason the last two months I haven't had enough T to get four shots, only three. What could it be?
>>6438176
But why?
>>6436930
You've earned your neckbeard, my son
>>6435355
One thing is proving macho masculinity, one is deliberately wanting to present as femfags
What's the point of transitioning if you feminize yourself afterwards anyway
>>6438026
Tbh I sometimes have the same feelings and I have many years over you living as a man. I'm still troubled about passing often even though I have a beard (not a very good one, but one nevertheless) and since I'm not good looking my self-esteem is below zero and I kind of hate public places because I feel like everyone is laughing at me or something.
I could never detransition as I balded very badly because of T, I'm rather hairy now and also post top op. Idn I dont feel like I would even like to live as a girl, I just want a tall handsome bf and getting one as a straight girl would have been SO MUCH easier and since I just dont have any self-esteem of confidence it might come from that... another reason aside the bf situation is that I find high heels and cute dresses really cute and would like to wear those, even though I never liked them when I was still living as a girl. I wish everything was just black and white, life is annoying and confusing.
>>6438567
It's true though, unfortunately I guess. I'm watching the x files making plans with my friends for a game of pathfinder next week.
>>6438748
>I find high heels and cute dresses really cute and would like to wear those, even though I never liked them when I was still living as a girl.
Haha I think "agp" feelings are more common in ftm's than we care admit. It's probably the tension of doing something forbidden, arguably more so than cis males, combined with the way those high heels make da booty look juicy
>>6438836
Yea its weird because I like having a beard and being a hairy man but I still would like to wear cute asian dresses and heels. Not that I will unless it becomes socially acceptable at some point, no need to draw attention and make myself look like a weirdo.
>mustache is coming in even more
>beard growth is starting
>>6439604
I don't get that picture. Why wouldn't he choose to save the family? We don't know who the one person on the top is or what attachment he might possibly have to them.
Why am I overthinking a stupid comic
Help me out guys
My dysphoria fucking sucks. All the standard stuff, most of it physical but a lot of it's social too. I had started seriously thinking about transitioning when I was 18, I'm in my mid twenties now and still haven't. I tell people it's because of the social repercussions but the real reason is that deep down I believe that I'm completely insane for feeling this way and I don't want to humor myself and get HRT/surgery. It feels like giving in to a delusion. I may be shocked every time I look in the mirror and don't see a male body but I know logically that I'm female. Transitioning would probably make me want to kill myself less but I just can't buy into the "I have a man brain my soul is male" thing, I don't believe in a soul and brains don't have a binary gender any more than heights have a binary gender. Even all the studies trans people cite to talk about brain sex show that.
But, it's just getting worse as I get older. I don't know if I'm going to kill myself over it or not, but best case scenario is that I'm just miserable forever and die young in some kind of accident so it's not drawn out too long. Fucking nobody knows how to fix dysphoria besides transitioning and nobody's even bothering to try and research alternative treatments, either. At this point I'm thinking of just starting HRT even though I think it's a pile of shit, because at least then I'll be functioning okay. But then I'll probably just hate myself more for giving in. So should I an hero now or later
>>6439646
Its a stupid "dilemma" where almost everyone agrees you'd kill one person instead of five but the "argument" is if you made the effort to turn the lever then you would be partaking in killing them where as you didn't do anything you wouldn't be killing anyone.
>>6440149
Are you me?
Seriously this sounds so relevant to my struggles between logic and feelings, of society, my gender, and what I wanted to do. I was content presenting as male and being mistaken for a boy due to androgyny and thinking it'd be nice to be called "he" but I didn't need to demand it.
I was diagnosed with "gender identity disorder" at 18, after keeping matters to myself for my whole life, but I thought I might grow out of it, discover myself better, and decided I'll transition if I still felt that way in ten years.
Eventually female aging started to show, I stopped passing for a 15-20 year old guy, and hey, ten years was up, so I decided to go on T. No one calls me "sir" or "he" in public, despite my voice is deep and I don't dress like a tumblr trans, and now misgendering bothers me cause I know and accept who I am and want respect and acknowledgement. I wonder if I started too late, if teenage me was being too rational and cautious. I would have aged like a man.
>>6440963
>I would have aged like a man.
Thanks for the daily reminder, m8
This is a question for any of you who have been on HRT long enough to have seen significant results.
Do you have a brother who is post-puberty, or at least a good way through it? If so, did your body's reaction to testosterone/hormone changes, follow a similar path to his?
I'm curious because desu, test did a lot of great things for my brother. He was a chubby, baby-faced fuck before he hit 16 and suddenly his face thinned, he lost weight and put on muscle (with no effort - he's not /fit/ or anything).
So for a while I've been sort of imagining myself going through a similar change to what he went through.
But I'm thinking about it now and what if it doesn't work like that at all? What if I end up gaining weight around my stomach, face and neck like my step-brother did?
Does anyone have experience they could share?
>>6441062
To prevent yourself getting fat in all the wrong places, start lifting when you get on T. The extra muscle will make you look more masculine faster and it will turn the increased libido into something useful. If you don't want to get too muscular get into cardio instead. It will help prevent fat gain and make you look leaner.
Chances are you will take after your brother more than your step-brother because you share genes with the former not the latter. I wouldn't worry. A bigger difference is if your growth platelets have closed, so you have the manlet effect to deal with on top of everything else. A cis man goes through puberty as the body develops so he gets height gains for free. We usually don't.
>>6440963
>Eventually female aging started to show
How old are you? pls this scares the shit out of me
i'm 19, and i look like a male my age or maybe a few years younger, but i keep feeling like its just a bad idea to transition, i want a normal life with friends and a real family, and i figure i'll always just be seen as a woman pretending to be a man, and never taken seriously, not to mention no girl will ever take me seriously as a long term partner.
but i have this feeling that when my youth is up, i'm really gonna wish i transitioned
