what is love? baby don't hurt me edition
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>No bullying
>No hugboxing
>No tumblr shit
>No *actions*
>No drama
>No accusing all anons of being trolls
>No accusing all anons of being trolls
wew ;~;
>tfw people can't distinguish obvious trolls from people who don't want to attentionwhore
>>6282437
>what is love?
When a guy sends you gunpla
Love is a buttfull of cum
I'm a girl, someone give me attention.
>>6281015
stale bread
>>6282385
yeah but i cannot get AAs for ages, maybe not until i am 18 and probs failed college because of feeling shit ;(
There's great timelines then there's pics like this.
>One year on HRT : )
I can't believe people who shave half their hair off.
>>6282446
I only became a girl for the free gunplas.
>>6282440
in summary
>online we fall in love with avatars and not people
>the risk free aproach is too tempting but not too good
>we focus too much on finding some mental model of what we want instead of meeting someone else
>love is more about dealing with shit together than being a correct match
>>6282415
ooh nice. I've never had the taste for italian, but I hear that it's great
>>6282419
>based on virtual avatars
>>6282446
source?
>>6282452
oh hey I remember seeing their timeline
What the fuck were they thinking
>>6282437
>what is love? baby don't hurt me edition
>tfw at resutaurant
>tfw bf talks about future, moving adoption and marriage
>tfw he still doesnt want to casually abuse me physically
at least my right bewb is still bruised ._
>>6282460
yeah, I had a pretty good day yesterday, so today I am inevitably feeling horrible, but that was still kinda nice.
>>6282456
same desu
>>6282457
ah, i see
i figured with love you need a lot of give and take, patience, and working together to make it last
however, you need to find the right person that you're willing to put up with all this shit for
that's the tricky thing
>>6282464
I don't remember but this scene seems amusing as heck so I'm gonna look it up too
>>6282419
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y5t8rVglFc [Embed]
I blame Weird Science for my /ss/ fetish. I wanted those kids to do nasty things to me. I'm glad it's one of those fetishes that don't interest me irl, but people should never know of my secret.
>haven't seen your friend for a year
>he returns from abroad
>before he left he thought i was weird and eh
>now he pretty much wants to lick my face
>asked if i want to go for a 2 week holiday w him
First time someone says i have changed a lot that has known me before, hormones aren't useless after all ;3
why is there no demand for daughter doms :(
want to buy mommy
Daily reminder
>>6282470
>>tfw he still doesnt want to casually abuse me physically
if he does that in public people would freak up and call the police at some point.
Tfw I fapped to this
I've been on HRT for about 7 months now, when do I stop pooping?
>>6282476
that's the best feeling
one of my friends went to jail before i transitioned and then when he came back and met the new me he couldn't stop gushing about me
>>6282477
>why is there no demand for daughter doms :(
want to buy mommy
>implying there isn't a demand
>>6282447
Dammit
>>6282476
I haven't seen my best friend from high school for about a year now.
I'm hoping it's a while before I see him and he thinks I look different... I just need hrt to keep going.
So... Will spiro make me infertile? For example, If I'm one it for 5 months?
>>6282486
In order to achieve full tru trans and never poop like cis girls you need to induce the constipation side effect of spiro
>>6282486
>I've been on HRT for about 7 months now, when do I stop pooping?
If you haven't stopped pooping by at most 1 month you were never meant to be a girl, hun
Being a healslut isn't that bad I guess. Watching your teammates mop up kills like crazy thanks to you being a good fluid druid is a good feel. I blame the estrogen for this.
>>6282457
I feel like saying something about this but since I got literally no experience with irl anything it's probably a worthless opinion.
>>6282337
*HUGS*
You only know what you know at the time so don't beat yourself up to hard. I too passed before HRT. Before learning I was Klinefelter's I thought it was due to my youth back then. I was 14 to 16 when I was crossdressing and passing without hormones. I even had a small bit of feminine fat layer. Just do my hair up, put some makeup on, and tuck. I also didn't know I was IS until I saw my medical records from birth. Nobody on the net to badger back then, but I could see the jealousy in other tranny's eyes. Especially the older late transition ones. Still some of them were real nice and helped a lot.
>>6282479
Pretty accurate desu
Gotta love this place anyway.
>>6282496
This is the worst news of my life...
>>6282494
That's kind of one of those things that they warn you about when you start hrt...
Have you been self-medding?
>>6282494
my penis in your butt will make you infertile.
>>6282494
If you're even remotely concerned about that sort of thing just don't bother and fuck off.
It took 7 months but I finally managed to destroy every aspect of my life and I guess I'm free to commit suicide whenever I'd like now.
I'm going to sleep now.
Hopefully I won't wake up.
I probably will anyway.
If I do, see you then.
Night.
>>6282447
If you have cum in each hole, is it more love?
>>6282488
is there a demand?
im selling myself
>>6282483
no I meant at home. in public that would be weird.
but like, rough sex is nice and stuff and evry fulfilling, but it would be nice to get a few semi-lasting effects out of it. ideally broken ribs or something maybe.
>>6282497
Mercy is the best subby healslut thing ever
>ability flies you closer to your protector
>pure healing
>if anyone dies you get to say fuck that you're stuck alive with me again
>>6282511
>ehe, how did that end?
Never really went anywhere, he's on the other side of the country.
>>6282512
I'm buying~.
>>6282508
please don't
>>6282508
or have an absolute fresh start. and then kys.
>>6282496
>post op
>still pooping
Explain
>>6282510
Yes, absolutely! Love is a function of holes filled of the form l(h) = 2^h where h = holes
>>6282514
if you break a bone you'll have troubles going to classes and you won't get your degree in time to support your bf.
It's so cold, my nipples are harder than diamonds, help ;_;
>>6282514
I don't know you're probably too frail, might be worried he'll hurt you too much.
Still don't get why you'd like to get your ribs broken though.
>>6282518
you obviously are AGP and are living a lie, hun :^)
>>6282514
Why would you want that? Srsly, I have seen people in abusive relationships - that shit ain't good
>>6282486
Huh I still poop once a week. After years on HRT
>>6282514
but if he does lasting damage he won't be able to hurt you every day. you're not thinking about the long run when he's considering marriage, you're awful.
>>6282515
>Mercy is the best subby healslut thing ever
She's a ton of fun ye but feels horrible when youre playing with awful pugs and they cant hit a damn thing or do anything useful, top fun with friends.
>if anyone dies you get to say fuck that you're stuck alive with me again
>tfw potg is me ressing 4 people just to see them being mowed down in half a second
I'm helping!
>>6282522
Share body heat with someone.
>>6282511
I've only been doing hrt for a month and a half though. I think I'm noticing incredibly minute, nearly placebo changes but it's not enough for others.
We're probably going to go to a convention in November regardless of how little we've seen other since. I'm sure I can scare the shit out of him by then. That'd be... 7 months into hrt. He hasn't even seen how fucking long my hair is yet. Worst case scenario, at least my hair will be disgustingly long by then.
>>6282522
I want to be in this sub-80°F place you speak of
>>6282496
you mean to tell me that I can get to a point where I don't have to shit anymore, ever??
>>6282537
yeah silly, girls don't poop
>>6282537
of course hon! after the first week of HRT my poophole turned into a vagina I didn't poop from then on and now a real girl :))))
Someone teach me to act like a girl.
>>6282540
then you better come to my house and fuck me senseless like the AGP fetishist you are. :^^^^^)
>>6282546
I just act like a huge faggot. It's pretty close.
>>6282540
I eat enough. My doc said it's ok. They even did colonoscopy to make sure that everything is right.
>>6282521
I have a legal way to import synthetic morphine, wouldnt be too worried about that. also I am pretty pain resistant
>>6282524
yeah, he likes me too much to actually hurt me. its kind of sad, and nice at the same time. I dont know what Ive done to deserve someone as good as him.
>>6282527
because I hate myself and want him to kill me in a painful way at some point. I am just trying to deal with the
>tfw degenerate mutilated man in a dress
feeling. I realize its not very smart, but I cant help it. he protects me from myself a lot though, so no reason to worry.
>>6282529
>you're awful.
youre right, but I dont know how to get around this dilemma
>silent hill pachinko machines for as low as $80
anyone considering this?
>>6282546
Start stretching your butthole
>>6282531
i hope so
its really nice to realize that something happened
because like old people around you wont say anything usually ( they dont realize bcus see you daily) and its like Q_Q Nothings happening.
>>6282553
if you get morphine then you wouldn't feel the rough sex
>TFW without a genetic disease, transitioning post puberty, and with boatloads of surgery and cancer giving hormones you'll always be a faggot in a dress.
At least I'll get to suck cocks.
>>6282555
If I were allowed to spend that amount of money on a single thing then totally
>>6282552
wait you really only poop once a week? the fugggg
>tfw playing all dva vs all pharah game
>>6282543
oooooooh that makes sense
>>6282565
Yeah. I thought that was normal. But when I wrote about it on the internet people lost their shit (kek) and said I should see a doctor imminently.
>tfw Edie try's to convince you she is XXY and is going to die of lupus because of small not to uncommon uniquous defects
>>6282560
no, morphine only for uni of course.
>>6282447
did your ex cum in your axe wound?
I think I'll need braces. Fuck wisdom teeth desu.
>>6282518
>tfw you actually suck at math
>>6282571
To be fair you should pretty much always see a doctor over trust the internet for health advice.
>>6282575
hey, Faye, you like cooking, right?
I keep seeing that to get bread with that nice shiny crust you have to put some water in the oven before the bread, but a lot of people say you're gonna destroy any container you use for the water. Have you tried it? any tips?
>>6282577
>sophie in charge of moderation with drugs
Who here /growing marijuana for personal use/?
Considering trying since I found some incredibly cheap seeds and it looks easy enough. Good idea?
Hello!
I had a delightful nap
>tfw you realise your not trans, your just depressed
>>6282575
I am not a bio person, but the most over-selfdiagnosed thing in trannies is probably intersex. I dont believe that ever unless chromosomes get tested, judging from your post, my approach is the right one?
>>6282583
not a good idea? :^)
>>6282582
but I did...
I have anemia, good night <3
>>6282575
my heart is gonna explode and i'm gonna bleed out of my midshaft urethra and it's gonna be all ur fault
I feel dumb for not realizing row 1 to row 2 very likely had ffs involved since her nose and face got narrower.
God damn did she get hot though.
>>6282584
i tried and it was horrible, i made every single possible mistake and maybe even more.
>>6282584
I would if I had a garden, seems kind of annoying to grow inside and it can smell pretty strongly I've heard.
>>6282593
who?
>tfw pretty much all cute femboys are gay
whyyy ;___;
>>6282593
Aaand what the hell am I talking about. This would have helped for all those in the thread who aren't mind readers.
>>6282587
good thing you can only have one mental issue at a time
>>6282580
Not for a few weeks
>>6282581
;~;
>>6282548
With what?
>mfw the progesterone hits
>>6282588
Faye's mostly right to advise caution, BUT karyotypes are expensive, rarely done and a lot of the time even official diagnoses tend to rely on the checklist of symptoms being filled up.
>>6282479
>rage faces
Somebody call the Epic Department. That or send this meme back to whenever it was relevant.
>>6282597
Men have such an appeal
I'm not too sure I even like girls.
>>6282555
>tfw theres a pachinko machine in my room
>>6282585
Good afternoon Red!
>>6282581
>I think I'll need braces. Fuck wisdom teeth desu.
Teeth problem are the worst, hope you get more competent doctors than I did.
>>6282599
Rhinoplasty literally can not come soon enough.
>>6282601
I don't know to be hon. You may not have a penis but we will figure out a way.
>>6282599
Damn, I didn't realise Kate from LOST was played by a tranny
>>6282588
Like if you literally have breasts and hips and are really tall with a small penis and no beard, you should probably get tested, but never assume you have any disease.
>>6282583
Shiney crust comes from an egg yolk glaze that you brush on
>>6282587
> tfw you're both trans and depressed for non-trans reasons as well
>>6282607
Like I get more turned on by other girls than boys but like i'd prefer to be with a guy
is that weird?
>>6282605
>BUT karyotypes are expensive, rarely done and a lot of the time even official diagnoses tend to rely on the checklist of symptoms being filled up.
karotype tests are mandatory in europe as part of getting diagnosed. cause to be trans you need to have normal chromosomes
>>6282617
exactly! thank you
>>6282592
Just let me lick your vangenis and make you forget about it bb
>>6282621
Well, does the guy have to be feminine?
>>6282621
I'm pretty much the same.
Girls are slightly more aesthetically appealing, but guys make better companions.
>>6282611
>Like what?
>It's pretty foolproof as far as I can tell
I didn't build an indoors or anything, just tried to grow it with natural light. I had parasytes, not enough light during the day, not enough darkness during the night, I think I watered it in wrong amounts at wrong intervals, when changing the pot I hurt the roots... a lot happened. the end result was an hermaphrodite with tiny crops and very little effect. still free though so it evens out...
>>6282603
Oh yeah? Contouring? Does that work from more than just the front angle? What level of illusion magic is this?
>>6282608
Fucking same. I'm trying to set money back but other medical needs are eating it alive.
>>6282597
Find a cute transbian that's okay with pretending to be a femboy then.
>>6282626
Yes. I find them cuter
idk im weird i guess
>>6282628
Oh shit.
Couldn't get like $70 lights from Amazon and do it in your closet?
>>6282599
Could be angle, lighting, hair, eyebrows, expression, makeup.
Her chin is almost definitely hrt. Her nose at 4 looks kind of different but the light flushes out a lot of details.
>>6282624
It depends which country but from what you've said, I'm not surprised the german system clings to this bullshit. Also GID-NOS was the category for intersex (even then, Cohen Kettenis was pushing for the changes to GD partly for that reason).
>>6282635
closets don't always have the space and ventilation you need.
$70 is more than I was willing to put into it tbhon
>>6282625
>vangenis
Thread is quiet, post shit memes
>>6282629
I'm putting money aside from transition stuff in general but it's going to take fucking forever to get enough to travel abroad & get nose and chin fixed with all the running expenses.
>>6282597
>>6282630
This could be me though I'm not very cute but since I don't pass I don't need to pretend the femboy mode.
>>6282625
post your feet
>>6282639
That kind of reminds me of the suspicion I entertain that hrt is more of an art portfolio of getting better at taking pictures with better angles+lighting+make up to make yourself more fem and the physical effects of hrt are all a lie.
>>6282639
>I'm not surprised the german system clings to this bullshit.
I actually think that makes sense. Being intersex puts you in a distinctly different spot from being a normal tranny. treatment should be the same, but I dont think its the exact same. assuming I had XXY chromosomes and everything else was the same in my life, Id be lot happier
but maybe thats cause I am retarded, Idk.
>>6282660
exactly. barely anyone that started after 20 passes 100% irl. I sure as hell dont. I can take pretty pictures though
>>6282633
I understand. Being a femboy is fun!
My memebox order came!
>>6282664
>tfw started at le meme age of 18 and never been gendered female.
1.5 years of the hon lyfe
>>6282664
>tfw 22 and no hrt yet
Shall I kill myself y/y
>>6282664
>>6282664
>barely anyone that started after 20 passes 100% irl. I sure as hell dont.
Pretty much what I figured when I started at 25.
The good thing is you don't need 100% though. The rest of your presentation has to carry you the rest of the way. If you can get "close enough" people will just assume.
Reminds me of a phrase my transbian friend I has who is 10 months hrt, she says the way she looks and acts "gets the point across".
>>6282653
Derrida is best philosopher <3
>>6282664
>Being intersex puts you in a distinctly different spot
It really mostly doesn't. People don't see your chromosomes. You're still just a fucking tranny to bigots.
The only people I've known who were seriously transphobic but didn't hate on people with KS who transitioned are self-loathing trannies who acted like a post puberty diagnosis of KS made them not trans.
>>6282669
I'm not a femboy, I just like femboys
what is memebox :?
>>6282682
I am a femboy :3
It's a Korean beauty product company
>tfw mommy talk gets your sissy stick dripping wet
>tfw LSD
>>6282694
But why is grass purple?
>>6282674
the meme age is 14
>>6282675
I started at 23.
>>6282678
you misunderstand what I mean.. 100% pass in this context means never getting clocked. and barely anyone here can do that.
>>6282681
I guess I am not constructivist enough to follow that train of thought.
>>6282689
You are?
>>6282692
> sissy stick
Can we at least go back to calling them girl tinklers or something?
>>6282698
>even 14 is not safe
we are domed ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>>6282698
>100% pass in this context means never getting clocked. and barely anyone here can do that.
Oooh. Gotcha.
>>6282694
Oh hey, psychedelic art that's reasonably accurate for once
>>6282697
For the same reason the moon is orange... and then yellowey... and sometimes red.
Does anyone know if stav strashko used to take anti androgens?
>>6282702
I too prefer to refer to it as a gt
>>6282702
I thought they were clitties, also my bell went off.
t. Stephanie
>>6282515
>Reinhardt will never pat your head and call you a good girl.
>>6282704
If you didn't start in the womb you're never going to pass in the eyes of God.
>looking for youth hostels to stay at between ending uni and finding a permanent residence
>nearest two are both out in the countryside over a mile away and cost £38 a night
am I doing this wrong? what's the website for this stuff? i just used google
I tried looking on booking.com for cheap ordinary hotels but it's like £1,500-2,000 if I want to stay for 4 weeks
>>6282666
You should get genetically tested so you know
>>6282710
stav does (they probably did)
>>6282712
>bell went off
What is this meme?
Who are the top ten lolcows of mtfg?
>>6282715
>tfw you will never grope genji's perfect synthetic ass
I've noticed how most passing trans women are the lanky type. This isn't a bad thing, but maybe all that angular bone structure and model tier height is something to capitalize on instead of wish away?
Never any trans guys who weren't stocky bears, though.
>>6282707
Yeah, this artist is really cool.
Elanna I did LSD with my friend and it was awesome!
>>6282599
People IRL keep pointing out that my nose changed a lot. Just from HRT and weight loss.
>>6282725
its from the tgirl hon meme guide
>>6282694
what if I want to do drugs with you
>>6282722
>over a mile away
thats not a lot....
I spent like 6 weeks in manchester in hotels when I did an internship there in 2012, nights were like 30-110€ probably average around 60-70. it wasnt cheap. if you want something affordable you will probably have to go out of big cities
>>6282735
I'd probably say "heck yeah that sounds like fun."
>>6282715
Whenever I see that name I think of pic related.
Still OK with it to be honest famalam
>>6282725
When you reach the ripe old age of 40+2/kid, as a succesful married man, your bell rings and you realize it's time to be a succesful t-girl desu.
If you were with men before that point, I'm sorry girl, but you're just a crossdressing fag.
>>6282730
Finally someone else realizes it.
Yes, accentuate your legs if you're tall, because while being torso tall is bad, being leg tall is hot.
>>6282719
>hear this
me tfw hon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjkNNDuAb9A
>>6282725
It's a hon thing, you wouldn't get it.
Anyone else diagnosed with all three at a young age:
Depression, anxiety, ADHD?
Also screening for autism, bipolar, personality disorders, and neurological disorders otherwise (seemingly) unrelated.
>>6282730
Exactly. If you look at trans models, they tend to be quite lanky.
>tfw manlet
>tfw not sure if I'll pass
>>6282746
No. And thank god. It disqualify you from HRT here.
Which trips do you want to take out to dinner and fugg?
>>6282746
anxiety and depression only
I'm not autism :3
>>6282727
Sass!
>>6282719
>tfw passing drops to the genetic uterine level
awh, jenny started when she was only one cell old. Why can't I have all of my cells pass like her?
>>6282752
I'm booooored Elanna :(
>>6282756
I want to fuck faye and every part of her body
Hi Hi Hi
How is everyone?
>>6282746
Not that specific mix but similar issues. But somehow they never picked up on my gender dysphoria. Maybe that was my fault for hiding it too well, although maybe I'm lying to myself and that didn't really start until much later. Who knows.
>>6282746
i have the holy trinity of asperger, ad(h)d and tranny although only sperg diagnosed at young age with some anxiety shit too
>>6282760
>tfw your dna will never pass in a crime scene
They're going to be able to tell I'm a man from analyzing the semen on the body.
>>6282738
awww <3 <3 <3
so nice
>tfw still havent dared to ask bf if I am allowed to get weed for us
>>6282756
Sass! Tru AGP master race here
>>6282746
Tested for autism. "Maybe on the spectrum but not enough of the symptoms for a diagnosis".
>>6282764
I feel like crap :(
Hung out with my sister yesterday and she works with kids, so I think I caught something
My throat is super sore and I'm really tired
>>6282743
>long legs
>but very thick
Genetics lottery hates me
>>6282756
Ufufu, red second choice but only barely
>>6282746
They thought I was on the spectrum for a bit when I was younger. does that count
>>6282681
idk, i feel like being intersex would help with self acceptance even if it rly changed nothing, considering i still struggle with being a mutilated man in a dress
>TFW I need more activity.
>tfw Walking around in heals I'm fine, but in flats, OW!!! I need to start stretching more so I can switch back and forth between heals and flats.
>>6282777
Awww ;~;. I feel. I hate being sick.
Id pat you on the head if i could. Hope you get better.
>>6282768
I think I'm just going to go for the faggoty androgynous guy look and see what happens when I get there. I'm probably fucked in the boobs department so I bet I could do that indefinitely if everything else fails me.
>>6282778
I'd fuck you. I don't know why you don't pass
>>6282764
Mostly okay. Waiting to hear from somebody that was having trouble in the past few days. She's usually asleep at this time of day so I'm not hugely worried, just a little bit in general because I know she's been going through difficult stuff. Otherwise an uneventful day.
>>6282778
>nikky bdd posting again
>>6282761
Why not vidya?
>>6282746
Also screening for
ALLERGIES at a young age, other rare immune problems and endocrine issues, pituitary issues, etc.
>>6282755
No it doesn't and I don't even get your meme.
>>6282758
I figure everyone had the depression and anxiety. That's a given. More important is the ADHD behavior. I attribute it to my disconnect from body now. It was a false diagnosis and now that I'm who I should be the concentration parts are gone. I am hyperactive but I'm not a mess.
>>6282765
Don't dwell, they and you didn't know. It's why I'm polling for information. I'm planning to revolve my life around cutting the trans "community" from the LGB Band. It's not similar, and I personally take more offense to be mixed in with those types. It's like looking at a midget or someone who autism and adding them to LGBT. Society (I'm 25) was very different 10 years ago, and most people older than about 30 literally cannot fathom the differences, most of which are made online.
>>6282774
Same with all of us. They used to hand out diagnosis like candy to boost their professional status. I just use my false diagnosis to scam IEP money through college / high-school. Thanks America. >>6282781
No. You're average and probably more stable than most cis.
>>6282768
>Being intersex makes u look more female than someone who is a normal xy male
No it doesn't. Either you have no visible differences or you look like a gangly freak.
>>6282756
Phienchen, not really fugg though, maybe drunkenly make out just to regret it in the morning
Also
>sister asks what trans groups I go to last night
>deflect it by saying I'm gonna get dinner
>she's really butch and has a tumblr and stuff so normally I retort by telling her "you know it's okay if you come out as FtM, I won't tell anyone" and pulling that whole bit in total earnest
>posts a pic showing off her friend's dog today
>"hi woman"
>realise she's wearing one of my shirts in the pic
>"oh I see you're just deflecting it onto me because you're finding it harder and harder to repress your FtM urges" etc.
>"omg shut up" etc. a few times over, then "shut up you mtf hoe"
>"it's just my goth phase idgi"
>"you look like a woman, you are trans af"
>"just because I have tits and stuff doesn't mean I'm trans, I'm considering it might be a chromosomal thing if anything"
>"nah you're trans"
>"p-please I couldn't ever be a woman lol, have you see my jaw"
>"there's always surgery"
>proceeds to tell me about FFS
>"but I don't have that kind of money"
>"you look like a girl anyway last time I saw you so you'd better get used to it"
>tfw people you're not even out to hugbox you
>tfw not sure how much she's joking and how much she actually knows anymore
I'm s-still in the closet, right?
>>6282788
leave me alone elenna measurements don't lie.
I fucking hate this game.
>>6282769
I think there was a bones episode where she was bitching about people who had gotten FFS
>>6282778
;~;
>>6282788
I don't want to play games today.
Besides there is nothing to play
>>6282778
I'm unironically jealous. Thick legs are not a negative at all.
>>6282784
I got some strawberry banana flavor cough drops so I do feel less shit but still pretty bad
>>6282785
Fwiw I do think that if u throw enough female cues at people like me e.g., wearing skirts and dresses, makeup and gaudy huge jewelry, people will gender u correctly most of the time. Doesn't mean they won't know tho and are usually just being polite because what the fuck else are you going to say to someone who clearly looks like a man pretending to be the little girl
>>6282789
Honestly, it wouldn't suprise me if I was afflicted with the tism. It would explain my music taste and my general inability to get on with anyone.
>>6282768
>one person slips up
>suddenly it's another week or two of "I'll never pass ;-;"
>>6282788
This's bdd meme needs to die.
As nikky said, her measurements don't lie.
>>6282793
not sure theres point in denying it at that point considering she seems at least somewhat accepting too
>>6282796
You went homo
>>6282794
I guess it's a good thing that people don't take your measurements when they're checking you out, because they sure as shit ain't clocking that body.
>>6282802
>tfw this still happens
>>6282793
you fucked up what the fuck NOELLE?
It's like your not even trying to hide it
>>6282790
Ya ur right. That explains why even after testosterone titchbits looked like a failing ftm and now she had cis tier hips even tho she started transitioning at 26
>>6282791
awww <3
>>6282768
I feel that without intersex condition an starting transition post puberty/post weightlifting repression I'll always be some 3rd rate faggot in a dress.
>>6282789
>After several screening sessions
"Ok everything seems to be normal. I can give you a letter now"
"Doc, could we discuss BDD for a moment?"
"Do you think you have it? Are you sure? I already wrote you a letter than you don't have any mental problems"
"N-no..."
>>6282812
Literally me. Sry
>>6282809
I thought you were supposed to be intelligent?
Jesus christ it's cold and it isnt even winter yet.
>>6282798
Thick legs are GREAT for high heels. But you can't wear high heels when you are 5'11
>>6282799
;~; hope you feel better
I got to go now
>>6282793
There is a 0% chance she doesn't know.
>>6282778
I wish my skin was that good.
>>6282814
>raw measurements
How do I measure... I know I need circumference for some things and width for others... but I'm not sure which.
>>6282824
Tall girls in heels are hot as hell desu
>tfw will never be intersex
>>6282824
Thick legs are great no matter what you're wearing on your feet.
>>6282833
>Tall girls are hot
>>6282699
Yup! I'm a boy!
>tfw u take a nap but then u wake up and ur still alive
>>6282752
Plenty. It's too long to post, so here's a pastebin about it.
http://pastebin.com/qi0AB0iA
>>6282820
Yah you can
Also your legs are nice as fuck so you should at least try it
>>6282809
>tfw all the signs of being xxy but really just a man
>>6282812
Not really. That murdering psychotic bitch that used to be a US war drone transitioned and now just looks like a big female. She is about half way down the transition timeline on Imgur.
>>6282813
I tried my best to hide my mental afflictions, I was going to become Jason Bourne and save the world. I knew I was smart enough when I was 11 and started training. By 15 I was a small time fraudster and online hacker. A few years later and real Internet Security became the norm and I spent my time revolving pointlessly around politics. I always assumed I was still gonna get huge like Jason bourne
At 24 I'm a broke ass college drop out NEET fiction author at best. I am intersex, I see it now, the lack of hair. I always knew hermaphrodite was one of my favorite concepts, but now after hormone tests it's confirmed like I'm a legit hybrid. I look male only because of my gorgeous penis but the rest is pretty fucking girly. The hair starts half way down my leg and the rest is silky smooth. Tits and ass not withstanding, I'm basically a female already. Just need more time on HRT I'm responding to it very well, though I worry about clots and such now...
>>6282835
Everyone is a bit intersex. Your brain is a female it probably means a bit more is female too. I have no science to back that up, but it's my observation since I became a fake scientist.
>tfw your nipples get hard and tingly for no reason
Wut
>>6282843
You should buy some lips.
>>6282828
It's not that good.
>>6282835
Actually becoming an XX/XY chimera at this stage probably isn't impossible. If you get a bone marrow transplant from a cis female you'd end up with XX blood cells, for instance, and there are probably other options. I don't think there would be any benefit, mind you, but it could probably be done.
>>6282852
You know, you're the second person to say that in the thread today...
>>6282853
I think instead maybe I will just detransing and not worry about this anymore
>>6282846
I'm gonna read this too if you don't mind.
>>6282800
U just need the ultimate sign of being a female. A tall manly boyfriend/husband.
Having a girlfriend is ruining your game...and people can see it in your eyes, in you're giving away subconscious cues about not being a hetero woman
>>6282771
eheh
>>6282860
You look good and you should not detransition.
>>6282854
Way better than mine. I also got pretty large discolorations on the back of my knees and stretchmarks on the front. Also way worse bone structure.
>>6282862
Of course, go ahead.
>>6282742
did you even read the text or you just fully trust the memes? at no point it says "you're bell can't ring at age 12-39", what is says is that transitioning when you're not sure was a bad idea in the 80's when you had no law and no medical coverage. It's pretty much trying to shush away transtrenders, just like 4chan does.
>>6282855
Chimerism isn't intersex, and there are probably a few of us that have chimeric cells, it's way more common then being intersex... But like it does nothing for you
>>6282860
Slap one of these on every morning. Cheaper and better looking than your makeup skills.
I just think I should stop hormones...
>>6282850
see? her legs have pretty thin ankles. My are thick as heck.
>>6282860
just because you may not pass 100% does not mean you should just stop transitioning tbhon.
Just live your life.
>>6282723
I should, but I don't have the money, and my insurance won't cover any of the cost of the test. On the other hand, I tick off many of the possible symptoms/conditions. Even late slow puberty.
>>6282730
I capitalized on it.
>>6282774
I'm borderline autistic too.
>>6282778
Looks like you use them. dieting, HRT, and lack of use will thin them out.
>>6282824
Hogwash, I wear high heals all that time and I'm that tall.
This >>6282833
>>6282840
Not for long...
>>6282874
Reeeed. What happened?
Anyone want to tell me how I'm supposed to take measurements?
>>6282870
>did you even read the text
I don't hate myself that much.
>>6282876
Thin ankles are bad dude. They make pants that sit above the ankle and boots look like shit
>>6282872
In what sense is XX/XY chimerism not intersex? Wikipedia doesn't agree with you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46,_XX/XY
> 46,XX/46,XY is a chimeric genetic disorder caused by having two distinct cell populations within the body. The chimerism arises in utero from the combination of an XX zygote and an XY zygote (which otherwise would have developed into twins) into a single embryo.[1] It is not to be confused with mosaicism and hybridism. 46,XX/46,XY is typically associated with Intersex conditions such as ambiguous genitalia and hermaphroditism.[2]
>>6282872
isn't it still objectively intersex to have both xx and xy cells
>>6282860
Maddie, you know that won't work
You are in it for the long haul
>>6282773
stop flannelposting already!
>>6282869
It kinda makes me wanna do acid again, only this time with access to my music production setup. I've only tripped once, but I remember feeling like I could manipulate the music I was hearing with physical movements.
Tfw endo was pretty convinced I was Kline but I wasn't
>>6282877
i love swedish fish
i wish i had some rn
>>6282880
>Looks like you use them. dieting, HRT, and lack of use will thin them out.
I love walking and riding my bike
>Hogwash, I wear high heals all that time and I'm that tall.
With my face it will scream tranny being that tall.
>>6282892
I think you've had enough, porker.
anyway how the fuck can she say I look anything like a woman, tits don't make you a woman and apart from those I literally look like a bit-less-unattractive-than-when-I-started-HRT man
>>6282891
>tfw not a comedy actor
>>6282895
If you have a bad face I don't think it matters what kinds of shoes you wear to be honest. (I'm guessing that your face isn't as bad as you're letting on either.)
>>6282883
What? There are like dozens pants with thin ankles. I know because I can't put my feet through them most of the time...
>>6282881
I hate my gross body and my gross face.
>>6282890
I spent hours carefully squencing a 4 hour playlist for us to trip to... and then we just went outside and walked around for hours. I thought it was kinda funny. I'm not nearly as comfortable in a DAW as I am with a physical instrument though, no way I'd be able to make anything while tripping. I could barely operate my handheld recorder, and that's as simple as hitting "record."
>>6282896
ok dad sorry
>>6282901
I love you and you're the qtest boy I've ever met!
>>6282902
Out of interest, what instrument(s) do you play?
>>6282901
You are pretty Red!
>>6282901
Red, you're cute. I'm legitimately jealous. I think that you're going to be fine, ok? keep up the HRT.
>>6282909
What the fuck
>>6282874
why? only thing I will say Red, is that you get a T spike after stopping HRT. don't want you losing any of that lovely hair. just be a pretty fagboy on mones 4ever.
>>6282909
that rib cage triggers me knowing i have similar one
Well, /mtfg/ is kind of unfulfilling at the moment so I'm out, talk to you nerds later.
>>6282860
>Tfw I'm eating a large pizza by myself because I'm going to be a faggot in dress forever.
WTF am I going to do, Maddie :( ?
So when do I get to just end my life? I think I'm in the stage of pushing away people I care about so I don't feel bad when I do it and have taken off my trip so people can't figure out I'm the one who's upset.
I'm fat pathetic and always wrong no matter what I do. No motivation and even though I'm full-time female all my other problems jn life have multiplied. There's no escape, life is hell and I just want to end it desu.
>>6282884
>unless she says it outright
she did several times acording to you...
>>6282881
>how I'm supposed to take measurements
which ones?
>>6282902
I'm super-comfortable with DAWs, but it's worth keeping in mind. During my first trip, I journaled the entire thing, and don't regret it a bit. My handwriting was actually entirely legible the entire time, but I remember forcing myself to stay between the lines until about an hour in.
I'll probably stay functional enough to operate a DAW, but it might be a little difficult if I start getting frustrated.
>>6282887
:c I don't want to be this way
>>6282920
I know exactly who you are and I can confirm that you should neck yourself
>>6282639
she def got ffs im p sure. she was in a fb group
>>6282855
>tfw known XX/XY chimera from blood testing due to having an dual blood type.
>tfw don't know if I'm XX/XXY chimera which are really rare.
I do have many Klinefelter's traits.
>>6282885
>46,XX/46,XY is typically associated with Intersex conditions such as ambiguous genitalia and hermaphroditism.[2]
This is because the competing cell lines fight over which one prevails. I ended up IS.
>>6282920
Let's be misery buddies, I hate working and it's unlikely once I'm with my boyfriend that he'll let me be a housewife, so I have to slog away at work for the rest of my miserable life hoping I don't fuck it up or get fired because of discrimination. Fuck life, I want to die ^^
>>6282927
You don't know who I am but I completely agree I should.
>>6282882
why do you push an opinion on something you don't know about?
it's clearly way worse in your mind than in reality.
Whats your hip width mtfg? Like not the circumference but just distance from ilium to ilium
>>6282889
Sexy sass takes sass out for a night and they kiss and make sweet love all night.
BRB, fappin'
>>6282925
>which ones?
All of them!
I think that bust, underbust, and overbust are supposed to be circumfrence and the others are supposed to be width, but... Well, do I measure width across the surface of my skin, or just in a straight line? and what do I need to measure apart from the bust etc, and waist, hips and height?
>>6282936
Not all of us are completely oblivious, forgetful and autistic. Do it Viv.
>>6282926
None of us too but it's something we can't control. Detransing will only make it worse. I don't pass 100% and probably never will but at least I can try to be happy by living an authentic life
Is religion or political beliefs a legitimate reason to repress/detransition?
>>6282901
Red you are 100% one of the top 5 qtest trips on the board. It's the crazy talking. We've got no vested interest in telling you something that is untrue.
>>6282940
I skimmed it. It's been around for years. I read a chunk of chapter 1 this week and I couldn't finish it because it was that retarded.
It's literally a bizarro world version of our trutrans memes where HSTS is the fetish.
>>6282941
unless you have a large pair of calipers you need somebody to measure that for you.
>>6282885
Because I know the two terms and I could get my modern genetics textbooks off the shelf. But I understand if you're just googling adhoc that it can be confusing.
Not that it matters, I just see a lot of bad information passed around as people worry about and see signs that they are somehow predisposed to being trans.
>>6282950
(other than getting in his pants... which we wouldn't do if he wasn't hot)
>>6282922
I-I guess...
aw fuck
it's happening, isn't it. I'm coming out to my family.
>>6282948
If you're a stinking /pol/tard you might as well just kys.
Anyone here experience testicular atrophy?
I've been on hrt for over two years and my danglies are super tender and achy a lot. My doctor says she thinks it's atrophy, so I was wondering if anyone here has experienced it.
>>6282960
>it's not normally like that
Top fucking kek my man
>>6282952
the mind set was different when you had literally zero ways to legally defend yourself, how are you gonna pay for hrt if you can't get a job since they are allowed to fire you for being trans? until very recently it was either 100% passing or being literal trash, the full first part is all about trying to make you really think it through because things were very different not so long ago.
>>6282948
legitimate reasons as in? is anything really a legitimate reason for those?
>wake up from being high af last night and I have a bf now apparently. Welp
>>6282964
Wow, you sure know how to spout and babble memes.
Anyone here think lgbt shouldn't really include trans? I don't think it should but I understand why it's under that umbrella at least for where society is stuck in their fag hate thinking. To me it's a medical anomaly, not a gender pride patch to wear like the girls on Twitter who are truthfully just being inane little teens. But it's under my skin, like I don't want to have to affiliate and deal with pride centers for support. I want DOCTORS to screen for this. I want school administrstors and councilors etc to test for this, it's not hard to spot, I think we can all agree that even during repression we can see the flagrant red flags in our past... In 15 years, I hope 5, trans will be revealed as like a 1 in 60 thing it only makes sense. Biology is a cruel mistress. I take no pride in my -"gender"- I just hate my body because I'm in the wrong one. :l
>>6282970
Congrats?
>>6282934
>tfw never had blood testing done
there's at least a fair possibility I'm a chimera, although I don't know
>>6282943
for bust/underbust, you go around the chest. Underbust is where the band of your bra goes, bust is around the nips (or wherever is the widest). Waist is around the narrowest part of your belly, and hips are either around the top of the pelvis (if your femurs are wider than your pelvis) or around the widest part of your butt.
shoulders are across the back from shoulder-bone to shoulder-bone.
>>6282941
i love this image
it makes me laugh every time from how accurate it is
I heard there was a user here that is also into straight man poo.
>family wants to go to the beach
>saying no is hard
Time to be the kid that sits on the beach in jeans.
tips on what to do when you're accidentally coming out to your intensely transphobic and emotionally abusive / controlling family because of HRT?
>>6282908
Currently I'm a drummer. I also play bass and guitar, and if you count voice then that as well.
>>6282925
>During my first trip, I journaled the entire thing, and don't regret it a bit.
I tried this. I managed a short paragraph before the drugs kicked in, then "Fells pretty good dude. That doesn't describe anything. I need to take a second." Then the word "tracers," written sideways.
>>6282971
So you ran home immediately stripped off and took a naked selfie, all while breathing heavily despite looking completely relaxed and pulling a retarded face? You have a huge ribcage.
>>6282983
go all in and tell them your fetishes too
>>6282981
I was that kid my whole life, so there's o big issue.
>>6282960
>I'm not sure
You don't have to be sure. Stick with it until you are. Don't quit just yet.
>>6282970
>I have a bf now apparently.
Wat?
How did this happen?
>>6282976
>shoulders are across the back from shoulder-bone to shoulder-bone.
Damnit... so I need to get someone else to take that.
Ok.
So circumfrence is bust underbust, overbust, waist and hips?
And width is shoulders and nothing else?
>>6282983
move out
>>6282981
eye mean
nothing wrong with being the girl on the beach in shorts and a tank top
>>6282945
Although I agree with you why do you think I should
To help give me more motivation to do it
>>6282979
This guy
>>6282968
For example, if someone is sure that they are trans, but they love their religion too much to convert?
>>6282998
*transition, not convert
>>6282995
Just lose some fucking weight and accept yourself.
>tfw you will never sniff straight man poo with robin
>>6282997
do you follow him on facebook or something?
>>6282998
You'll let down your god for being a fag anyway, might as well go all the way.
>>6282998
It's a possible reason sure, might not be a good idea unless you really just love your religion and focus your life on that
>>6283001
That's why you want me to kill myself? That sounds like motivation not to, I meant motivation to kill myself
Anyone beleive LGBT shouldn't include trans? Instead I imagine it being a separate thing like autism (in terms of their "community").
I'm going out to a friend's house, should I try to burry my face in his crotch to see how he reacts?
>>6282997
also huh I guess HRT really has changed my face a bit already
could also be weight loss I guess
>>6283009
Yeah well here's me backpedalling for the first time ever. Don't kill yourself.
>>6283012
The LGBT community has always been basically just the LG community anyways.
>>6283013
BUT OF COURSE!
>>6283012
It includes it because some people view it as homosexuality+ , I don't care either way.
>>6282985
See, I'm normally really into journaling, and I wrote maybe 2 full pages before the drugs kicked in. Uh. It also didn't help that my friend messed with me a little bit and sent me in a psychotic spiral that encouraged me to put on headphones, curl up in a ball and cry on the floor for ~4 hours before journaling and listening to music again to stabilize myself.
I did play billiards when the drugs had worn off a bit, and I loved the way the balls were glowing.
>>6282991
I mean, there are a fuckton more measurements you can take, but those are the standard sizing ones. Neck is curcumfrence as well, and legs are from ankle to the top of your pelvis.
>>6283013
yes
>>6283004
>not knowing that Edgar trolls himself as anon to get attention.
>>6282986
>trying this hard
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cas/5607745439.html
>>6282885
Fuckin' mythical chimeras making us old fashion brain-damaged folk look crazy.
>>6283023
>Neck is curcumfrence as well, and legs are from ankle to the top of your pelvis.
Danke. Noted.
Robin switch your name back to olrapeyface.
>>6283018
Also I'm guessing you're someone from discord? Only the girls there call me Viv, everyone here calls me Vivi.
>>6283009
Come talk to me
>>6282963
Yes, a combination of 200mg Spiro, 5mg Fin, and 4mg E caused a reduction of over 50%. The suckers are almost always self tucked now. I'd say mine are mildly achy and tender.
>>6282981
I wore swim skirt, and tank top the last time I was in the hot tub. Haven't been to a beach in ages.
>>6282983
Just tell them
>so what?
>how does it harm you?
>it's not your business.
>It's my life.
>etc.
and keep repeating them louder and angrier than they are.
>>6283013
You can always stick your head there while looking up at his pecs. You'll know if a hard spot develops.
>>6283023
I've been trying to keep a diary lately, I don't write in it very much though. Maybe like one page-long entry a week. That sounds rough though, I've never had a negative experience like that in the 4~ times I've tripped. Trippy billiards sounds kinda cool...
im bored again
what do
>>6283034
Dude what? I'm not in any tranny groups, maybe you should just do it after all.
>>6283038
But if a hard spot develops in his pecs I would call an ambulance.
>>6283013
If you want to ruin a friendship yeah nigga be as rapey as you want. I hope he breaks your nose.
>>6283022
Yeah, it just seems strange to me. I fully understand how it got where it is, but I think eventually it should fall. It's not the same. It holds us back if anything. At least comparable to an accepted medical condition not a mental illness, choice, pride thing.
>>6283040
You in new York state? Come take acid I'm bored I hate everyone I know.
>>6283044
im in britain tho
>>6282920
Slit your fucking throat tranny, it's not rocket science. Do it already, and stop moping about it on the fucking Internet.
>went to dirt bike shop in girl mode
>bad idea
>>6283032
oldkiwiface is better way to say it
>>6283052
HOW'S LEGO THO
>>6283049
fat
>>6283052
Maybe you should stop standing like a mild autist
>>6283049
Sup parrothitler
>>6283054
how's be a trust fund shit eater?
>>6283052
But that sounds hot. You need to post more of your dress.
>>6283049
oh, right, I think we've found the culprit of this particularly old-fashioned olrapeyface-posting
hi, hitler, how're you doing?
>>6283039
It was only half-trippy billiards, but it was hella cool.
Tbh, mtfg has eliminated the immediate need for me to keep a diary by letting me talk with other people about the shit in my life. There are people who actually get what I'm going through here, so I don't need to be writing in a book by myself all day just to stabilize.
>>6283063
Guess again you disgusting sack of shit
>>6283052
>post pic in bedroom
why do you lie so much?
>>6283059
how am I standing wrong?
>>6283052
pretty!
Im seriously considering the camgirl/tumblr route. I cant find a fucking job and the things I do every now and then I'm sure some fucker would pay me money to watch it. I just wont show all of my face.
>>6282920
Sheen pls
>>6282909
lmao skinny fat, nice fupa
I'll be on skype/bnet/steam if anyone wants to talk to me for any reason.
>>6283061
>I went out in girlmode
>that's why I'm posting a pic of me in my house wearing my mom's clothes
>>6283062
its a skirt retard
>>6283052
Do you have any kind of exercise routine? I know you're basically a home-body nowadays...
Because I kind of really like your legs.
>>6283062
>you don't want to see other half
there is a reason why it's cropped
>>6283071
I wish I could do the same, working in an office is fucking hell.
>>6283044
>yeah nigga be as rapey as you want.
I-I was just considering maybe slipping and falling near his crotch, or searching something under the table and accidentally rubbing my cheek against it. Nothing rapey with that!
>>6283078
You are the only person in this general who needs to be killed
>>6283067
huh I really need to look at my old photos for inspo more, I've made progress
>>6283082
>telling someone to slit their throat
fat
>>6283052
>posts old crossdress photo
>guys I went outside in "girl" mode
>doesn't even have electro done
>>6283078
My mistake. I thought you only owned grandma dresses, hip-hugging guy jeans and men's plaid button down shirts. I guess the reputation isn't true.
>>6283087
You look no different. You finally learned how to shave after months of posting your scabby disgusting face that's it.
>Boymode at work
>Everyone trying to guess my age guessing around 17-18
>Tfw 25
Estrogen is incredible.
>>6283060
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z3AKrwna2C8&feature=youtu.be
>>6283097
Same thing happens to me and they always think I'm lying when I tell them my real age.
>>6283038
>mildly achy and tender
Thank you for your answer. I got an ultrasound to make sure there wasn't any growths or torsion, which there weren't.
I'm waiting for my urologist to speak with my doctor before we move forward with an orchi. In the meantime, they get to be somewhere between ignoreably achy to about a 5 on a pain scale of 0-10. Yay! -.-
Ice and ibuprofen have become my friends.
>>6283077
Well the pic is from 2014 so, yah she should totally give her moms skirt back tho, it's been 2 years
>>6283101
>torsion
you would really notice if you had testicular torsion
>>6283092
>hip-hugging guy jeans and men's plaid button down shirts
that part is true
>>6283095
>Let me guess, you broke the cardinal rule of a girl knowing more than a guy?
yeah, also I got harassed in the parking lot by a group of ASSHOLES who were trying to talk to me and I was ignoring them until it made them mad. Why can't a girl just go to her car without men trying to bother them?
>>6283106
It's because you're not a girl
>>6283023
Ok... I think I got these right. SO
Pre-everything (including any actual weight loss... Which I hope to do...)
hips 34''
shoulders 16''
waist 33''
bust 37''
overbust 36''
underbust 36''
Height 5'9''
neck 15''
legs 33''
Anyone want to criticise me before I hang myself?
By which I mean make a recording of these?
>>6283106
But what if they knew you were a guy and they were just pretending to be into you in order to make fun of you?
N-not that I'm that insecure...
>>6283065
Trippish billiards, then.
>>6283110
You are too hard on yourself sheen.
>>6283106
I like kaylas stories, they remind me of all the sissy hypno stories I used to read
>>6283110
You look ok and your voice is great, I'de say I hope you make it but you already are.
>>6283109
okay yeah its a dress, pic is from march, its the same outfit but I added a mid belly jacket thingy to draw attention away from my shoulders
>>6283111
naw, if they thought I was trans they probably would have made a hate crime out of me. They were talking at me the whole way to the car and I didn't even look at them so they got angry, its the second time I have had this happen.
>>6283007
Yeah I know him
>>6283110
Stop fucking coming here then we would all be grateful.
>>6283110
You're posting on 4chan, if you gonna cry about people not being supportive then fuck off too Reddit or tumblr. It's like a nigger in Alabama crying about black rights
>>6283122
Well, good luck then. And nice get!
Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm gonna try and get drunk tonight and slit my throat. I can't reliably get a gun and can't think of any other ways (no ways to strangle myself)
Just hopefully my sister or roommate aren't home
>>6283104
I know that, but that doesn't stop the ultrasound tech from checking anyway because that's one of the things a testicular ultrasound is used to check for. Just like I'd probably have noticed if there were any abnormal growths.
>>6283128
>faye_and_edie_go_to_the_beach.jpg
>>6283110
Pls kill the appropriation of being intersex
You don't know what it's like going through life being tall and lanky with a small gt, breasts and hips with no real facial hair
>>6283101
Yeah, that would be a pain. Mine only ever ache. May be due to the fin.
>>6283106
Thought so, I had all sorts of issues with that when young. Didn't help that I obviously knew more than the guys I worked with. Even my bosses asked me questions on lighting scenes. On the streets, I looked too hot. Oops...
>>6283110
its because you always complain. Just do what you gotta do.
>>6283119
>tell Kayla to post more of dress
>tells me "It's a skirt, you retard"
>tells someone else "Okay yeah it's a dress"
Why are you mean to me, Special K? I just want to experience unwanted male attention vicariously through you.
>>6283129
Seriously talk to me please
>>6283129
Slitting your throat is a guaranteed failure. Think of a better method.
>>6283128
me irl to be honest family
>>6283128
James was a fucking inspiration.
The glorious bastard. Do you actually know his backstory? It's pretty sad.
>>6283140
>o you actually know his backstory?
backstory? in pokemon?
>>6283131
I'm being more healthy and just accepting myself as a woman rn
>>6283129
Won't work. You actually have to cut really deep and most people can't do that.
You'll likely land up failing and damaging your vocal cords.
I've done a shit ton of research on it already and have spoke to an actual doctor about whether it would work.
>>6283133
You really know how to trigger Sheen. Bully anons why even bother, faye has it covered. Maybe Sheen will send you her suicide letter, have something in common with edie then.
>>6283144
Good :D
>>6283096
Magic Shave Cream, senpai
it's a lifesaver, would recommend
>>6283149
I wrote like 7 pages of trip-sperience. Would you like to read it once I finish editing it?
>>6283143
Yup. I can't remember what season or episode it was in, but his growlithe was buried in Pokemon tower when he was like... 7 or something and it fucked him up mentally. He was a rich kid who ran away from home and is only in team rocket because they took him in. Of course I'm remembering this from 3 or 4 years ago when I was completely batshit insane so I could be imagining it, so look it up.
>>6283149
>you should be ok
Good to know.
>>628304
Butte
Stuff
Or go write a story.
>>6283108
cis girl pls
5 foot 11
160 lbs
neck 15''
shoulders 19.5''
upper chest circ. (above bust) 42-44''
underbust 38''
waist 30-32''
hips 39''
thigh circ. 19''
it's almost summer so im officially trying to find my early summer wallpaper . i like this one but im not 100% on it yet
post you're desktops
>>6283159
>cis girl
maybe in comparison to you mate. I read that and it definitely did not pass
>>6283140
james is my husbando desu
>literally spent all my childhood days playing with dolls and playing vet with cute plush animal toys, wearing my sister's disney dresses, etc until my Dad started shouting at me for it, threatening to hit me and started only buying me the most masculine of toys
>mocked and bullied when I first went to high school for acting so fem, until I stopped acting fem and tried to fit onto the edge of the nerd clique
>majority of my friendships groups have been girls and gay / bi guys
>never been comfortable topless even as a 6 or 7 year old at the beach
>always wanted to grow my hair out and got angry / cried when my parents would force me to get it cut as a kid
>literally praying to jesus / santa claus every night as a 14 / 15 year old that he'd make me a girl
looking back I don't know how the fuck somebody didn't ask me or show me trans stuff sooner
yet my parents refuse to acknowledge that any of this behaviour could maybe point to me not being the regular manly man they'd hoped for. they just brush it all off as regular childhood / teenage experimenting or a phase
And although they said they'll support me when I transition, they're still refusing to accept I'm actually trans. I'm not sure how to feel.
>>6283162
its very interdasting. post naked feet
>>6283123
Tank top and shorts then.
>>6283133
I wonder if the only reason I had body hair was I was hit hard with T during conversion therapy. My body hair is less than a third as think as any of my male relatives. Even my beard was much less thick despite being thicker than normal.
>>6283162
>tfw haven't changed my desktop since Winter
>>6283168
kek iktf hard senpai
I'm starting to think maybe they did know all along and that's why they sheltered me away from any lgbt stuff 'cause they were trying to prevent the inevitable
>>6283156
Jump off a high building, jump in front of a train, get yourself beaten to death.
how do i leave /mtfg/?
i don't want to be here anymore but i still gravitate towards this general for some reason
>>6283147
>mfw sheen finally kills himself
>>6283147
She's not going to kill herself because her being trans isn't related to a genetic condition.
She should be glad it isn't.
I've seen way to many fat, depressed, unhealthily skinny, and trans people try to push the narrative of genetics, but I've known 0 people who weren't obviously suffering from a genetic disease, who took the time to test for these ultra rare conditions, that had that test came back positive.
If it worries you to the point of distress though, for your mental health, you should get it checked out. But be ready to let go of that fantasy, and not move on to the next thing like most do
>>6283184
Generals are addicting as fuck. You could find another general to get stuck in.
>>6283184
Either find a substitute, or cut off your internet time. This is how I left my old community.
>>6283184
Block 4chan or something?
>>6283184
It's addictive as fuck but it's all I got ;__;
Wish I could help you.
>>6283184
you can't leave
>>6283154
Sure!
I used 16 pages for the trip and 2 pages for afterthoughts. I would type them out, but at 16 pages, that's really annoying, and I have a fuckton of drawings too, along with half-finished sentences.
>>6283168
I literally told my mom many times that I was going to kill myself, was always depressed, and self harmed the whole of high school, yet she never thought anything was wrong with me and to this day I've never been to a psychologist.
>>6283190
this is true
maybe i should start going to /vg/ or something instead
>>6283097
Same. I'm 27 and clerks always skeptically demand to see an id if I ever buy alcohol.
>already looked young for my age
>add estrogen
>seemingly stopped aging
>body too busy growing jugs to age
>>6283188
>She should be glad it isn't.
Not really related to sheen but isn't that a huge boon to any person who needs to transition? It's way harder from a full male or full female body to the opposite than from an intersex one isn't it? Maybe I'm missing something here...
>>6283097
Everyone at work keeps telling me I look 12. Estrogen is probably going to make me look like a literal child lmao
>>6283196
Take pics of it instead! I dunno when I will finish it, might be today. For some reason I found a YT channel where a guy smokes crazy weed. I'm watching him hit a 30 in. bong right now.
>>6283207
How do I stop being so manipulative and cruel?
>>6283162
I haven't added many new wallpapers in the longest time.
>>6283097
I should ask people to guess my age. I've heard that I look young when I tell people I'm 19, but I wonder how exactly how young.
>>6283197
>tfw same
my mom legitimately just thought I was just tired when cashiers were visibly disturbed by the aura of my depression. She also has never seen me happy, apparently.
>>6283214
I might do that. I'll see how I feel later.
>>6283217
she has hairy arms
>>6283216
trash your edgy folder and become a good listener.
>>6283216
trip on mtfg
>>6283226
You don't like?
>Mfw ppl think I pass
>tfw still look like a 19 year old male
>>6283172
I don't want to subject someone to seeing any more of my shit body than my arms and man face.
>>6283184
You don't.
>>6283209
Being intersex is shit from what I've read. I can't say anything about it from experience this.
>want to buy cute clothes
>too nervous to go to a store
>can't order because I work 9-5 and am not out to my coworkers
I behave like my house cats the last 5 months. I add nothing, I clean nothing, I just get 2 meals a day and go back to my NEET lair at my parents. I'm 25 how the fuck do I break this cycle I'm so sick of being a boy but I can't switch at all until October. And that's just when I start HRT that isn't really going to solve anything. I want to die.
>>6283172
Low t best t
>>6283168
Same, my dad kept that I constantly crossdressed, and all the times he found me in makeup or nail polish when he came home early to drink, to himself, and when he did start telling her, it was all just being an experimenting boy who would grow out of it
>>6283209
You're missing the reduced life expectancy and all the horrible conditions related to being intersex.
>>6283216
Stop caring so much about what other people are doing//needing attention
>>6283232
don't get me wrong, she's pretty
>>6283239
I've done worse.
4 gadgetzans in one pack.
Tfw u ruined ur frickin life
MTFG what do I do? CAMHS has not given me an appointment in literally 6 months and we have not heard anything from them since like February when they sent one of those weird autism quiz things
I am literally sitting on my butt doing nothing, I feel too awkward to wear girls clothes or to act girly and in like 2 months I am going to College and will have to introduce myself as a boy because I am far too awkward to come out
my body is probably going to get worse, i still can't look in a fucking mirror and i have an adams apple
wtf do i do
>>6283235
Stop posting pictures of dollface without makeup
>tfw you find where daddy hid the router
>>6283249
Get somewhere to ship shit to and order cypro.
>>6283246
It's like rng was telling you to play miracle
>>6283247
beep?
>>6283131
Oh wow you made it.
I thought Egypt would swallow you whole for sure!
>>6283249
Self med u idiot
>>6283238
>Being intersex is shit from what I've read
Worse than being a hon? We're all fucked here, some just less than others.
>>6283243
>You're missing the reduced life expectancy and all the horrible conditions related to being intersex.
Well I admit I don't know all that much about those but it's not like hons are immune to those either they just come from other sources. Everyone loses in some aspect of the gene lottery and adding more years to a hon life is more of a punishment than a reward.
>>6283247
That feel when your family was so dysfunctional and insular that your life would have been ruined even if you'd been born cis, and the only real reason you ever had a chance to grow up was by coming out, kicking the worst of your family to the curb and PIERCING THE HEAVENS WITH YOUR TRANNY SPIRAL.
>>6283265
Given that the alternative is becoming more masculine I think u just have to get over it
Should I workout today mtfg?
>>6283267
Its hard though :(
Ugh I fucking hate this i shouldn't have to buy fucking estrogen from some indians connected to isis or whatever
>>6283263
It's so weird to watch people get so startled by just me checking out. I must really be hostile.
>>6283255
You mean miracle malygos?
>tfw I don't have leeroy jenkins
>>6283235
you pass from time to time. not 100%, every angle. Like every other tranny
>>6283265
I still live with my parents and can't drive yet, so I know the feel. When I got my spiro in the post the other day my mom kept asking me if I ordered drugs...
>>6283273
I just crafted my leeroy last night. I wish I had malygos
>>6283262
Yeah. I know the hon life and intersex is suffer. You get fucked by everyone. At least hons have some docs in their corner. I've read some horror stories about docs vs intersex ppl.
>>6283265
You have to. Look at hons of you fell doubtful. You can prevent it.
>>6283272
That's how life works. It fucking blows.
>>6283274
>implying some of us ever pass
>>6283280
I had to craft twin emps ;-;
>>6283280
I crafted malygos back when Reno Jackson came out. Those OTK decks were insane.
>>6283235
Your eyes are really pretty in this shot.
>>6283249
>act girly
how to do this mtfg?
I have work in the morning... so I should probably go to bed...
Anyone want to say things to me?
Like... "goodnight"? or "sweet dreams"? or "Go fuck yourself hon-tier triple faggot I hope your family kills you when you wake up"?
>>6283281
report this thread
>>6283286
Thx bb
>>6283284
>At least hons have some docs in their corner. I've read some horror stories about docs vs intersex ppl.
I thought it was the opposite. At least intersex people have some sort of medical condition they can point at whereas hons just having to justify being trans because muh feels even tho 99% of the world hates them for it.
>>6283284
Me too but I realized that I don't enjoy playing C'Thun decks so I dusted it. Also intersex is suffering like hell.
>>6283285
Ah. I didn't really get into the game until last December. I quit for a while because I didn't think I'd ever be interested. What's your battle tag?
>tfw can't dust my golden gelbin
>>6283291
sweet dreams senpai :3
>>6283271
Yes.
>>6283299
>tfw disenchant Leeroy and Cairne when they weren't played in the meta
>tfw had to re-enchant them to play decks a year later
>>6283284
>Look at hons of you fell doubtful. You can prevent it
>you can prevent it
oh wow so somebody on the kageshi showed me this website Gumtree and there's a bunch of properties up there available to start renting immediately, including houseshares
looks like that anon who said days/weeks of negotiations and interviews were mandatory was bullshitting
>>6283307
At least you got the full price from leeroy after the nurfs
>>6283302
Night Phien-chan!
>>6283262
Most people do not lose at the genetic lottery, a large chin is not losing, dying as your body eats itself alive, and living as a deformed mutant is losing
>>6283299
>battle tag
Isotera#1229
>golden gelbin
lmao
I got into it like... last March? Then I took a huge break in the fall because school, but got back into it recently. NEET lyfe.
>>6283292
Who's IP are you using?
>>6283280
I'm probably just gonna be crafting rares and epics for a while. No money for packs
>tfw you can always find money to buy packs when you're drunk/high
>>6283307
I actually crafted cairne when he wasn't in the meta, simply because I needed something more solid to put in my 6-drop slot on midrange druid
I also haven't disenchanted hogger because he's actually a great anti-midrange card. Total pain in the ass to deal with.
Ugh I look so awful ;(
>>6283321
>Who's IP are you using?
my own
>>6283326
why do you want to get banned?
>>6283159
>TFW robin has a more grily body than you.
Being a boy is okay
I just need some yellow color corrector
>>6283328
I don't belong here
>>6283298
The medical community violates the rights of intersex people all the time.
>>6283299
C'Thun warrior is fun. all that armor is hella tight.
>>6283302
Night!
>>6283308
Iktf. After 15 I had no chance.
>>6283317
Useber#1720
>>6283324
You can change it! Just order it, hideit carry it with you whatever it takes! Don't end up a hon like me.
>>6283311
You're in for a hilarious dose of reality.
okay... what's a bedsit? there seem to be a lot of those available
>>6283341
pretty! :3
>>6283346
i can't though ;(
Ugh I just feel awful
>>6283318
>a large chin
It gets much much worse than that though. 5 years of extra life expectancy for a much higher chance at passing doesn't seem all that bad for me, not that it's a choice anyone gets to make for themselves so yeah it sucks. At the end of the day I feel bad for basically everyone here
>>6283323
>I never had Leeroy pre-nerf ;_;
Rip dust.
>>6283352
I've been talking to UK folks in the kageshi and they seem to think it's bullshit too and I should be able to close on a property in a matter of days using that site
at least I'm fucking trying, how long did it take Kayla to still not move out from her mum's house again?
>>6283341
just do you,
and you're killing it
>>6283330
tfw I suck at arena ;~;
I usually go 3-3. Used to be better, but I just think I forgot how to play the game when the new expansion came out.
>>6283342
that's not a reason to ban yourself though. If you keep coming back, there's obviously something that this place is fulfilling that your normal life isn't, so it probably isn't a good idea to shut down that connection forever.
Besides, it won't prevent you from coming to the board. It just prevents you from posting.
>>6283346
>c'thun warrior
>fun
>interactive
-.-
>>6283361
Thank you <3
>Spend an hour in front of the mirror messing with your hair
>Now your hair is oily and you need to wash it again even though you washed it yesterday
God damn it, the tribulations of growing your hair out and enjoying it too much.
>>6283362
I used to get 9-10 wins on average in Arena, now I suck ass with the new expansion
>>6283367
Arena is all about getting value. The more valuable your cards are on their own, while maintaining a decent curve, the better you'll do.
>>6283377
I averaged 7-8 last summer, and then TTG came through and destroyed everything I knew about the game.
>>6283381
Oh hey! I think I'd like that thread
>>6283381
looks like an alien and is triggering uncanny valley. if you find this attractive you are brain damaged.
>>6283362
>that's not a reason to ban yourself though. If you keep coming back, there's obviously something that this place is fulfilling that your normal life isn't
theres not though
at this point I come here out of habit
nobody likes me
hons don't belong here
>so it probably isn't a good idea to shut down that connection forever.
it is if it helps me kill myself
>>6283396
I like it...
>>6283396
fuck you Tilda Swinton is boss af
>>6283396
I think we all know who's brain damaged here
and tilda swinton is epic you pleb
>>6283405
Don't shit talk amy
>>6283408
Amy is a hon
>>6283408
you're kinda new,
but everyone else knows amy is cray af
I don't like Swinton's androgeny. Guess I'm on the crazy side.
growing my hair out only made me look like wolverine
>>6283427
Neither do I.
>>6283429
Chomp on cigars for max effect, desu.
I plan on being an androgynous/feminine male...so maybe y'all should chill. Also stop overusing hon.
My civ 5 Japan game is going well :3
>>6283438
Nothing androgynous about a 6'2 guy with a barrel chest and no lips
So for real... What's the verdict on this hat
>>6283432
I won't shit on anyone who does like her, tho. Just not my cup o' tea
>>6283443
howdy/10
trizzly my messages aren't going through on hearthstone idk why but i'm not ignoring you
>>6283443
I like it in theory, M it's very cute, but Id really need a full body pic to see if it works.
>>6283450
now it won't start up again
it's probably my crappy internet here
>>6283454
Stab your boyfriend
>>6283450
My Internet cut out
Am I the only one who likes to eat her own cum?
Is this AGP?
>>6283469
I masturbate with my legs over my head and cum on my own face on a regular basis.
>>6283443
I don't have any qualified reasons to say so but it doesn't suit you. I think you should get a gangster hat.
>>6283471
sound HOTT.
hay guys general question: whenever I try to pass I keep looking like an ftM. This is like the fifth time someone "clocked" me as such and asked if I had a real dick. Why and how does this shit happen? -_-
>>6283471
I tried this last month. My hormone cycles run less than most males I suppose, given that I'm 25 and look 15 but I got very strange thoughts last month very powerful hormone cycle and decided to try this. 4/10 might try again..
>>6283477
Ask if they want to see it and play along and say they took it from a dead boy in Croatia.
>>6283477
Hard to say without pictures.
For how long have u been on hrt?
I found an app for my phone and smartwatch that's gonna give me reminders to drink water and help me keep track of how much I drink
This could be pretty useful, especially at work because I totally forgot to drink until the end of my shift today x.x
>>6283477
Where do you get those comments? If you frequent places where CDs/trannies are more common than normal, people there are also more used to them and will therefore know what to look for.
i.e. ppl are mor likely to "clock" you at a gay bar or in mtfg general than they are in other places
>>6283438
you should have someone do makeup on your face like that irl
i hope edie is ok
>>6283486
not a gay bar, but the hipster equivalent. favorite hookah bar.
>>6283493
i hope you are okay.
>>6283493
why wouldnt she be?
>>6283485
Grace I have a crush on you.
>>6283497
O-oh, uhm..
WHERE NEW BREAAAAAAAAADDDDDD
Reliability of overdosing on Ssris? It's pretty much Prozac.
>>6283494
go to an old geezer pub or something, see if you pass there instead
>>6283513
yes, I just want to fuck your feet titchy
>>6283514
Thanks anon! will post results eventually.
Should I post feet?
>>6283520
post new thread and go to bed
>>6283520
You cant.
>>6283511
Don't.
>>6283516
i have weeird feet tho
>>6283529
you are pretty cute though
>>6283529
I have a little 2nd nail at my little toes.
More weird than that?
>>6283527
OK what about overdosing on hydroxine or any of my grill pills
>>6283487
This isn't trolling. I was exploring if I was bisexual trying to imagine sucking dicks. I apparently get off imagining an oral fixation and something about inverting my body (probably cutting blood or raising pressure) strangely depersonslizes my own cock so I was like maybe I'd enjoy getting hit with my own cum.... I kinda did.
>>6283511
So I've not done a thorough search but I did find this, which makes it seem like it might be difficult to reliably overdose lethally but you'd have a good chance of putting yourself through a lot of needless suffering in any case:
> Although SSRIs are not as dangerous to overdose on as these other older agents, one single, massive dose of SSRIs can still cause severe toxicity and poisoning which can lead to seizures, abnormal heart rate and coma.
I absolutely don't advocate suicide but if you are going to do it then there are much more pleasant ways to go that don't involve fucking with one of the main chemical systems involved in the perception of pain and suffering. Too high of a risk of making your exit unimaginably miserable, in my opinion.
>>6283513
Yeah, she literally didn't see it in herself. I know I've mentioned it before in /mtfg/, but she never put two and two together and realized it fit her until today.
>>6282522
>tfw it's cold and nips are sore and hard at the same time
this feel is the worst
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