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>>6176798
old thread
>>6177621
I wish I was invisible sometimes
>>6177575
>that hormone cocktail
Wew no wonder my tits aren't growing with this dosage but scared to up E without monitoring and QHI doesn't sell progestrone
>>6177621
>a femboy making a mtfg general
>>6177621
>tfw red thread
>>6177630
>QHI doesn't sell progestrone
they do
ask for a special offer
Ive ordered prog there twice
>>6177621
finally a good thread. thank you red!
>>6177628
>can still feel invisible, masculine bone structure under invisible, masculine face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0
From stale bread
>>6177371
When did I ever say I wouldn't? And Catholic? Sass, I'm as pagan as they come! TruCelt blood flows through my veins!
Was there anything else I missed? I'm a bit of a derp late at night!
>>6177624
>dare
Who said anything about you being in them?
Get your mind out of the gutter titch!
>>6177637
>ask for a special offer
Really now? I'm going to need new set of whoremones soon so maybe I'll get some progestrone too. How much does it cost? I got no idea how to dose it either so that's a bit scary but 4mg of estrogen a day is doing nothing for me rn :(
>>6177640
pain, blood and skin irritation.
try it on a friday night if you must, and spend all weekend in your bedroom healing from the war on your face
>>6177611
>>6177643
Oh... Well then...
That's kinda nice actually.
>>6177641
no
save your neo-vagina for the one you love
>>6177621
R E D
E
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T H R E A D
H
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>>6177645
if you have been on E for less than a year I wouldnt touch prog.
Idk what I paid, I think like 32€ for a months supply?
so what does prog do exactly? does it just enhance breast development or does it help with any other aspects of feminisation too?
>>6177649
I mean, I'm about halfway through plucking my mustache with a pair of tweezers right now. I like the pain, and it doesn't seem to be terribly hard on my skin.
chasers I'll let you be the first to fuck my neovagina if you pay for it
im a virgin btw
[email protected]
>>6177651
What the prison scene?
>>6177657
only breast development. ymmv in that regard though. it seems to do nothing for some. it has recreatable effects on me though
ayyyy so being sad is a good thing when applying for gov't jobs
>>6177658
Why not an epilator?
>>6177662
That's on every job application. I was watching some training videos at work and my gender identity is protected, wooo.
>>6177659
>chasers I'll let you be the first to fuck my neovagina if you pay for it
chasers wanting vagina not gt
any guy paying $20k for sex
>im a virgin
of course you are, you literally don't even have a vagina to be fucked in yet.
Whats up /mtg/?
>>6177639
i put some of my favorites. my gf bought me my US flag ones
>>6177658
stick to plucking. you have more control that way.
>>6177654
>32€ for a months supply?
Ouch that's going to increase my expenses quite a lot, not sure if I can afford it. Maybe I'll spend my makeup savings on that or something... hmm. I've been on E for 11 months and the progress is just not there, anyone who saw that unsee cc earlier can attest to that.
>>6177666
I don't have one.
>tfw I will never travel the Pokemon world as a qt girl and all the other feelings this webm fills me with.
Why. Even. Live.
>>6177662
>Put down autism on civil engineering job application
>Didn't get the job
>>6177603
you're thinking about Curtis mein führer
the retarded FtM who thinks E changes your voice
>>6177667
I don't know if mine is or not ;~;
>>6177664
You know, I think everyone I've come out to has asked me if I was going to start acting differently.
I don't know why. It's not like I was hiding much from them at that point anyway.
Bah I'm dwelling on the past. No one asked me for truth or dare last thread, but I'm only doing truth anyway. I'm not getting out of bed. If you can give me a dare that doesn't involve moving much I might do it.
>>6177660
Mhmm. I only got through part of it, but I'll be watching it fully tomorrow, when I have the energy to really think about it.
>>6177669
Well... now I have some Idea of what I might want.
Shut up, I'm allowed to have ulterior motives.
>>6177621
i like bread
>>6177658
that fucks up electrolysis/laser don't do it
I want to be Snorkmaiden
>>6177631
shut up !!!
>>6177632
big hearts and kisses babe!
>>6177637
thank you nazi loli
i love all of you and consider you friends <3
>>6177676
CURTIS
right, the guy is nuts
thank you <3
>>6177683
I thought you just had to wait for 2 weeks or something after plucking and then laser would be fine?
>>6177658
plucking is more likely to cause ingrown hairs anywhere but your brow
>>6177686
Awesome~ I can sleep happy!
Which I might do. If I suddenly stop posting, I havn't died, I've just nodded off!
>>6177686
kaffir stfu
>>6177671
well that looks better than mines.
cup?
>>6177682
>tfw not in the uk
You're pretty sweet too Grace!
>>6177668
Guys will do it. I've been offered £2,000 for sex. Didn't take the offer. The thirst of men knows no bounds.
>>6177686
I like you
>>6177699
... I'm a little ashamed to admit I'd take that offer.
>>6177686
>tfw only friends
b-but can we still d-do this if we're friends >,<
>>6177627
I'm sort of addicted to use a tweezer in my face. It doesn't look good and I'm sure all the touching doesn't help my skin. But it feels so nice each time a hair slowly comes out, it's like taking out a scab.
Do I buy generic wax or is there a particular kind for more sensitive skin?
aw shit, it's snore maiden & snufkin.
fukken sweet-ass
>>6177692
Not if you exfoliate, and dab a little bit of spearmint essential oil on it. It hurts more too!
The spearmint also might(whoknowsifit'stru) damage the folicles with it's antiandrogen quality.
I think I'm gonna do a test on my pubes to show you gals a side by side at some point on youtube for attention.
>>6177684
I used to watch the Moomins as a kid but thanks to dyspraxia I have literally zero recollection of what it's about, redpill me?
>>6177701
>tfw remembering the pic of me that used to be on this back when I tripped as noelle
oh god, the lessening beard shadow + fat redistribution away from my brow so I can keep my eyes open a little more normally really has made a difference hasn't it?
>>6177638
>crawling in my skin, this bones they feel so real
>>6177709
Relax! I'm sure she likes you more than that dummy. It's blinding how infatuated you two are.
>>6177713
wut
>>6177696
n/a
Here's the relevant part of the unsee, kms-tier gains i know. Guess I'll jam progestrone through for a few months and see how fucked I am if they sell me some
https://unsee.
cc/zaroguse/
>>6177699
you're literally insane to turn that down
>tfw I've started doing some lifting again.
I have failed you Taytay. But I must accept my reality for the time being.
>>6177633
WHAT A FUCKING RELIEF!!!!!!
>>6177713
Don't make fun of me
>>6177721
would grope/10
>>6177657
If you're experiencing mood swings and shit it'll help calm them down. Otherwise yeah it helps boob growth
>>6177715
It's bout a happy group of weird hippo looking trolls who go on adventures with their buddies
It's my favorite thing to watch when I'm sad
>>6177707
Don't be ashamed, I just chickened out, I'd probably agree next time if he was decent looking.
>>6177724
Hey, what's so relieving about that?...
Sass?
Sass, no.
Not yet.
>>6177723
trip on korra
>>6177718
Blinding isnt the word I would use.
>>6177725
for some reason my computer decided to slip 1 on me. i didn't mean it
>>6177643
that black lady at the end made me kek
I'm glad that transwife will probably pass pretty well when she comes out.
>>6177735
but yea, i love moomin.
tove jansson was a genius
>>6177707
you should be ashamed
any man that'll pay for your butt is not marriage material.
>>6177722
not really, ive gotten a few offers like that as well. never taken any
>>6177732
>trip on korra
korra doesn't lift though >.<
she's a girl.
>>6177683
Elctrolysis is what you're thinking of. For laser you have to shave the day before or the day of so there is as little hair covering the follicle as possible.
^ >>6177690 ^
OP, do your research before listening to some of these people, especially anon.
>>6177722
I haven't done much with men. Maybe if I was more experienced I wouldn't have been so scared.
show your butt
>>6177699
Hell I've had sex for $650, 2,000 pounds is sooo much.
>>6177666
you can use them on your face? I'd assume they are meant for rougher areas.
>>6177742
Thanks for reminding me. gotta get rid of it to post on other boards it's annoying.
>>6177744
>korra doesn't lift though >.<
>she's a girl.
>>6177746
Yeah, I just did a little googling and found a source stating I shouldn't pluck for 60 days before lasering. Another one said 30. dang
>>6177740
... I mean...
2000 pounds though...
That's more money than I've ever held in my life!
And I'm more than a little curious...
>>6177748
>>6177714
>spearmint
>damage the folicles
Spearmint is known to have the opposite effect and improves follicular health, it can also help support new hair growth when mixed with other essential oils.
>>6177749
I'll give you $25 to poop on my face
>>6177669
I don't harbor a big love for the US but those are the best panties in that set.
I don't know, I always like standard cuts to fancy ones.
>>6177749
Exotic premium
>started fucking myself in ass
>blood starts dripping out of my butt
jesus christ what have I done
help
>>6177758
>tfw raisin size nipples and 1/3 of the max growth time before
Wanna trade?
>>6177608
oh god yes. i dunno tho. like i dunno. here anon. he's the one in the tye dye desu
https://youtu.be/QYiHhBnC1ZA
>>6177762
good old kayla
It happens. Just sit down, relax.
tell me im just leaking ketchup
>>6177762
I can help you figure it out, first I will need to see a picture of your butt trust me I'm a real doctor
>>6177755
the regret would outweigh it
repent
>>6177762
One time when I was like 14 I jerked off 7 or 8 times in a row and I think I came blood
if this is any similar you'll just wash your hands and go to sleep
>>6177762
Oh no.
Uh... I don't really know what to do in the case of internal bleeding. First aid only covers so much...
Should I ask what you were doing?
>>6177680
you might start acting differently once you are cool with being evident about it, people will respond positively to it and start a feedback loop.
also, post a pic with flash of your feet inside the bed.
lmao totally missed this part of the letter for over a year
>>6177763
My boobs are like 20% boob and 80% nipple so yes please
>>6177772
everyone's gone so I stuck my dildo on the kitchen floor and started slapping my ass cheeks on the tiles, then some blood dripped out
im all cleaned up but now I am worried
>>6177777
get
>>6177776
>mfw jealous of any boob
>>6177775
fuckkkkkk
guys I want srs so bad
I want to make straight men (and kaylee) happy.
>>6177778
>Suddenly realise computer has no camera, and your phone is halfway across the room plugged into the PC.
Uh... Sorry anon? I'll make it up to you another time when they're properly groomed!
Do you have a truth request?
>>6177775
I wanna go back to Thailand for vacation sometime >,< i didn't get to do much while i was there. :/ and chonburi is kinda lame.
>>6177724
about you not being angry with me because I insisted on you liking the cock!
>>6177776
I think I could have fun with that~
>>6177728
I personally go for Seinfeld.
I'd like to know what's the favorite show to watch during sad times in mtfg.
>>6177781
>iktf
>>6177787
ANON PLEASE
>>6177775
Luckily you have a gf so you didn't buy a bunch of preventive pills unnecessarily
>>6177776
That sounds like a good starting point desu ne
I'm gonna crawl inside a bundle of blankets and suffocate myself
>>6177785
...
I... Should I be?
Sass, have I ever been really angry on this thread?
I mean, apart from the Birdy thing.
And the imposters.
And I mean, I really wasn't that angry, I was playing it up for effect.
Also, curiosity...
>>6177793
Good way to go desu
>>6177759
it's called a cleveland steamer, learn your pro-nouns.
>>6177793
im going to go bleed internally
>>6177793
>bundle of blankets and suffocate myself
p-please don't do that >,< dying is not good. things can improve :)
>>6177789
Don't be scared, mommy's going to take extra care of you~
>>6177789
I-I just want to be capable of nurturing small children with my own body ;~;
>>6177805
show butt
>>6177799
How big was the dildo?
>>6177778
a loving husband can pay for your meds
you mustn't resort to whordom
Testicles
>>6177810
>>6177801
M-mommy...?
>>6177803
Hopefully some day ;_;
When/if they get big enough I'm gonna take those tiddymilk pills...
>>6177805
>walking around and drinking pretty much every nigh
literally,T.T give me your healing genetics. how even??
to be fair i didn't really get out and about and look at chonburi much >,<
>>6177812
But... Butt... But...
Meds!
And I'll never find a husband looking like I do!
Meds lish,,, Meds!
They cost so much, and I am poor and Irish!
>>6177777
what a proud get
>>6177811
its only six inches long
I was going at it with gusto though
>>6177816
Do you need relief? Let mommy help~
>>6177816
I make lots of milk without progesterone, idk why.
>>6177805
>heals from srs in like a week
shit, what kind of working out were you doing, leading up to SRS. i'm going like next month i want that to be me, lmao.
>>6177819
>give me your healing genetics
TruCelt blood lass.
I could get wasted every night on anything but vodka, and only be happier in the morning.
Vodka though... Vodka makes me cry.
>>6177806
b-but why not th-this generation??
>>6177816
>saved>lewd
I'm still like three weeks away from starting, I dun wanna wait that long for boobies ;_;
>>6177799
you might get an infection in the following days. clean inside as much as you can and avoid solid food for a day.
if you get an infection you will notice the pus when you take a dump, go to a doctor if that happens.
it's not the end of the world.
>>6177823
What kind of relief..? Why is mommy teasing me? ><
>>6177825
Luck I guess?
I'm on progesterone but I think I still need to induce lactation another way. I wanna breastfeed someone. :/
>>6177831
>I dun wanna wait that long for boobies ;_;
I'm 4 months in, still waiting lol
>>6177809
>it won't actually make me pass
ummm, sorry, but like, i t-think that hrt >,< doesn't really do anything beyond psychology :(
passing is about clothing, mannerisms, voice, etc =/
>>6177777
>living with your family
>>6177822
The good news is you're not bleeding from your intestine, it's just a rectal cut. Might get infected though
>>6177833
>tfw sometimes bleed when i poop and now im worried ill get my butt infected
>tfw boy won't tell you that you look like a man
>tfw he gets mad when I tell him to stop and just be honest for once
>>6177831
Because those bastards who govern the Geneva convention don't allow for medical techniques to be used on humans before at least 10 years of animal testing, and then another 25 before they're opened to the public.
Of course, that could change.
I intend to change it.
>>6177834
>I dun wanna wait that long for boobies ;_;
>Sudden realisation of great truth
Wait, charlotte? is this what you meant?
I thought you meant growing a womb and egg cells that have your genetics using mutations of stem cells...
Oh... wait, that's still only theoretical... I probably shouldn't be giving people hope...
>>6177834
you at least have full nipples, I'm just totally flat.
>breastfeeding
apparently if you stimulate them enough, you'll start lactating. I'm not sure the specifics.
>>6177832
>>6177819
>>6177805
>>6177826
>tfw basically dead for 5 months after srs
>>6177849
the führer is skelington tho
you are allowed to take your time <3
>tfw no gf
>>6177762
jfc kayla do you not train or anything, I can literally fit my entire hand up there if I want to
>>6177769
KEK
>>6177775
>mfw cold shivers reading this
huh okay SRS is definitely not for me, congrats again though
>>6177799
Kayla I've torn my ass taking a shit several times before (thank you hypotonia). you're gonna be fine.
>>6177840
it's probably more of a stomacal issue more than a tear. ask a doctor
http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/bleeding-digestive-tract
>>6177809
it takes up to 6 years for hrt to make effect, I posted the chart in the old thread
reminder that if you start hrt at 25 you won't see the complete effects until you are 31, I guess.
>>6177834
Mommy just wants to see you smile, and maybe moan a little too ~
I just took a sip of my milk and there was an ant crawling on the lip of the glass. I now know what ants taste like, and it ain't good.
>>6177848
It takes a lot of effort or some pills or something that a few girls have taken here.
>>6177847
I wouldn't _mind_ having a child, I guess, but no, I just want to have breasts.
I don't want to raise a child out of fear that I'll stop caring about them some day, but being pregnant seems desirable.
>Started HRT 2 weeks ago
>Haven't fapped since
Is this bad?
>>6177855
i asked mine and she told me to drink more water
>>6177830
>tfw celt af and are literally indestructible
My glorious red/slate grey hair is almost as good as the adamantium liver though.
>>6177858
They are pepper spicy. you could dry them, ground them and make a nice free spice.
>>6177862
>You will never get pregnant
1:45 am feels.
>>6177833
jesus christ how horrifying
threadly reminder that grace is cute
CUTE!
>>6177861
>>6177852
it would probably have been better as well if it hadnt been summer.
even when I am okay temperatures of 30° in our flat basically result in me being a bedridden mess v:v
>>6177863
your libido goes down up to the first year, usually just 6 months. make good use of that time and work harder on your interests.
>>6177871
I didn't get any spice flavor, but I didn't bite down on it.
>>6177874
It's never happened to me but I guess it's one of those things that sound disgusting until you have to deal with them and they become pretty meh. Like changing diapers.
>>6177863
Normal
>>6177857
That sounds really nice... w-who are you anon?
>>6177875
AM NOT
>tfw new friends keep you up till 3 am every night
You people are ruining my already bad sleep schedule.
>>6177862
Science Lass. Vote for science, and we'll see to it.
>>6177870
Of Celtic blood I may be, but I look like a Frenchman. Or... well, maybe an west German. THANKS BIO DAD!
>>6177873
>noricum
This is a new name to me...
>>6177883
>friends
>mtfg
we're just constructs of your mind, gal.
>>6177882
I'm your mommy of course, and I want you to feel good~
>>6177888
I think I'll stick to red pepper flakes.
>>6177893
B-but what's your name? Do I know you..?
i need srs now, i enjoy watching the videos of it and getting excited and endlessly research surgeons and calculate costs and ways of getting the money.
the only thing that scares me is laying in bed for like a week or two afterwards with a fucking catheter and a condom covered wodge of packing shoved up my raw bloody hooha as i ride the morphine waves and occasionally poop into a bowl or whatever. that sounds hellish. i can deal with the operation no problem, its just being helpless and being embarrassed for a while
>>6177883
>3am
>bad sleeping schedule
try staying up till 4 or 5 on school nights
REAL GERMAN HOURS
>>6177888
I dont hate latinamericans at all senpai
>>6177891
yeah it was mad warm here when I came back. even my bf got physical problems from the heat (its hotter in our flat than outside in summer) and I was just dead.
>>6177833
>>6177874
also please tell me there's no common horror stories like this for FFS
I've never had complications from a surgery before
also I told my parents about the mystery orchi on my medical records and now they're freaking out, it would appear they didn't know. pretty sure my dad thinks me to be even less of a man now, kek.
>>6177875
Grace is the cutiest
>>6177883
>ruining my already bad sleep schedule.
i'm s-sorry >,<
>>6177883
>>6177872
>>6177859
Great, now I have an itch to breastfeed a child.
as if my life wasn't complicated enough.
I came looking for booty
>>6177883
Well I'm sorry about looking french. You'll never know the joys of having natural red hair that isn't gross and gingery. Rip
>>6177906
>start hrt
>grow boobs
>learn to lactate
>feed people with those tiddies
>>6177883
>friends
>>6177873
There's no point in overrating how painful SRS is. It was pretty painless and straightforward for me. Go under anesthesia, wake up covered in bandages and tubes and tomorrow those are gone. My chronic heartburn feels worse than my crotch right now. And the whole thing was a lot less brutal than the tonsillectomy I had as a kid, with faltering ether anesthesia and not being able to talk or eat anything solid for a month.
>>6177900
yeah I can deal with a grotesquely swollen face for a few weeks given that I hate the one I've got anyway, but all that shit seems like too much just to correct my meagre genital dysphoria
>>6177899
just marry me
>>6177899
Maybe you do, and maybe you don't, all that matters is what's happening now~
Should I go to the beach to watch the sunrise tomorrow morning or should I sleep in?
>>6177863
Libido goes down when you're on HRT. I only fap because I choose to nowadays, not because my mind forces me to
>>6177858
Ants are a good source of protein tbdesu
>>6177910
>end world hunger
>with boobies
>>6177916
>2 prime suspects are offline and away
Stop hiding please ;_;
>>6177915
Why would you wanna marry me?
>>6177922
That's how I'd do it
>>6177919
>>6177919
>Should I go to the beach to watch the sunrise tomorrow morning or should I sleep in?
Go to the beach! That sounds really nice!
>>6177894
but ants are free!
>>6177898
yeah, come on, tell us about your schyzo issues.
>>6177902
>I dont hate latinamericans at all senpai
B-but I also believe in praxis and historical materialism, you'll never accept my filthy post-marxist saussuresque ways.
>>6177902
>try staying up till 4 or 5 on school nights
Try not sleeping for a full 5 days coming up to exams and get back to me.
That was an interesting time
>>6177905
It's fine, I wake up at 11 these days anyway.
>>6177906
Sorry!
>>6177909
Ah, but my luscious raven hair is soft and fluffy!
>>6177911
Come on lass, you can be more chipper than that. Put a little more effort in to get along with people and you'll find they'll forgive you soon enough.
I mean, I didn't get along with CFH until I put aside my pride and tried to get along with her!
>>6177882
lol sure ur not kkek
>>6177928
marry me instead
>>6177906
there's a whole High School US episode about the goods of breastfeeding teenage students.
>>6177914
getting a nose fix is painless and i was told it would hurt. everyone says brow is painless, just feels weird. well ffs girl and angie said so anyway. jaw actually is meant to hurt and cause difficulty eating for a bit. full FFS done all at once causes greater swelling due to increased trauma (remember angie's day after pics where she looked like Maisie Williams in yellowface makeup?).
every person reacts differently though
>>6177932
B-but
>>6177934
I don't know you though, do I? I don't recognize your name
>>6177935
>Miss K went offline around the time mommy appeared
:T
I bet if I came down south and visited you you'd not even answer the door
>>6177928
>Why would you wanna marry me?
youhave to start thinking more like a woman and ask why would you marry them, grace
>>6177930
>Try not sleeping for a full 5 days coming up to exams and get back to me.
wow thats really dangerous. dont do that again!
>>6177929
I am really tolerant about stuff like this. One of the girls I really like is a literal marxist.
>>6177942
No
now get to know me bb
>>6177942
Mommy's door is always open for you~
>>6177944
was it ok? what was it like? because thats what i'm scared of. being in some bedbound nightmare state.
>>6177943
>wanna know what my milk will taste like?
wtf?!?!?!
ewwww, >,<
ew ew ew ew
>>6177951
my recovery was pretty bad, but I never had to poop in a bowl or anything.
>>6177953
so that's a yes?
>>6177943
I too, am curious
>>6177951
Gonna answer after cuddling gf to sleep
>>6177929
Oh dear. So... I didn't grow up properly. Actually I don't think I ever grew up, I just got better and better at pretending I was mature. However, That's not what this is about. No, I moved from the countryside, at the age of 5, losing the only friend I had had. Not only this, but the only school my parents could find for me was an all Irish primary school. Now I don't blame them (much, anymore), after all this was the only school that had spaces. But you have to understand. I did not get along well with others. Maybe it's because I knew that I was adopted... maybe it's because I spent more time being raised by other families that by my adoptive parents, or maybe I was just fucked up from the beginning.
Cont.
>>6177947
I did it for science and because no one would tell me what could happen! Some of the sweetest hallucinations ever! This is somewhat related to the current storytime!
grace i want to be gfs
>>6177943
a little bit
>>6177947
you just can't reject everthing marx said. his way of interpreting history (and posterior expansions on it) is the current standard and superior in any way to previous visions, and the argument that action always includes theory and that you should be concious of it is also great.
his propaganda work is as weak as any propaganda, and trying to apply his theories brought as much problems as you'd get testing any theory except that millions of lives got affected.
o-okay, I'll become part of your silent anon harem.
>>6177875
Not just cute, cutest.
>>6177962
Hnnn >:o
>>6177948
Welll uhm, hello! Tell me about yourself?
>>6177946
Maybe I should think like that, I'm just shocked that anyone would want me still..
>>6177950
How do I know you're not just that anon that likes to be ironically nice to me?
>>6177962
Okay I guess I'll try out other anon's advice..
Why should I be your gf?
>>6177963
awww <3
>>6177967
Because the things we'll do won't be very nice at all~
>>6177957
idk if agp, thats just really yucky i think >,<
sorry :/
>>6177900
>>6177944
>It honestly wasn't like that at all
this, like, pooping in a bowl? umm, ya, no...
>>6177960
Anyhow, when I got into the school, I was already being ostracised for not speaking Irish, and for being "that weird new kid" and I made the biggest mistake of my life. I bragged. About how my dad was in the army, about how my brother was awesome at video games, about how I knew how to tie 5 different types of knot and how I was learning to play the violin.
Now, this was all true! I wasn't just trying to be cool! I was cool! but it seemed all too good, and even if I could back it up, It seemed like bullshit.
And so I got bullied mercilessly. At first it was small things, being ignored, having small trinkets stolen... But soon it got worse and worse.
>>6177970
What do you want to do, mom?
>>6177969
your numbers stedily increase, eventually you'll be able to blitz a small city and turn it into your own outer heaven, tranny heaven.
>>6177967
because I love you and im very lonely and please grace i need you
>>6177930
Ha, black hair having nerd. I mean I guess if it's soft and shit, that's what matters. I'm a lone celt in the middle of norski/german mecca. So I guess I can't REALLY talk about trucelt when I'm not with my kind.
>>6177967
I play video games all day
my ideal date is drinking and watching seinfeld
>>6177959
thank you. i'm legit terrified of being stuck in a hospital. i'm impatient and recover quickly. after getting my nose done i was told i'd probably fall asleep again and feel sick and groggy, but i never shut up talking to people, wanted food straight away, and got dressed and was walking around hours before they wanted me to, bugging them about going home. i wasn't even in the hospital 10 hours in the end from arrival, to operation, to recovery, to leaving. nothing against hospitals but honestly if im gonna be a lazy pos i'd rather be in my own bed fuck that noise
WHY IS ALL THE RUM GON!!!
>>6177973
I believe that it's bath time, now show Mommy how much you've grown~
im so lonely ut hurts physically i need dto to hold me
>>6177972
in the cool irish army that blows key buildings without casualties or the shitty british army that sends paramilitary personal to kill inocent people?
because one of those is a pretty solid source of hate.
>>6177930
>>6177979
black hair is best hair.
I have really thin brown hair that looks girly enough, but I always wanted thick shinning black hair.
Is stuttering irl cute? I noticed I do it while I was voice chatting with someone.
>>6177978
What makes you think we'd be good together?
>>6177980
What videogames tho
this is important
>drinking
Sorry I don't drink :s
>>6177986
>tfw really do need to take a shower and I'll be thinking about this when I do now
I.. okay.. just don't touch, it's sensitive..
>>6177984
WAAAIIII!
>>6177994
>stuttering
it depends.
>Buffy/Whedon stuttering
pretty hot
>Dan Harmon stuttering
okay and catchy
>real speech impediment
horrible.
>>6177994
Mommy is going to make sure that every inch of you is clean~
>>6177994
you can drink soda I guess
Arma 2, Dota with friends, overwatch is cool as fuck
>>6177994
>stuttering
it's submissive, so it's a bit adorable at times.
>>6177994
it depends what kind of stuttering
if it's f-forced anime s-stuttering it's lame but if it's a genuine stutter it's cute
>>6177930
>Put a little more effort in to get along with people
Everyone has finally become cordial towards me here, not friendly but cordial which is good enough for me. However this whole experience has put me off trying to connect with other trans people ever again. I clearly don't fit in despite also being trans. I've decided to just stay here to talk and kill time, don't want to know any of you IRL.
These pills I took are making me drowsy so I'm going to bed.
>>6177994
grace PLEASE i need you
>>6177994
>Is stuttering irl cute?
no its just fucking stupid, lol. it makes you sound retarded and not at all intelligent. you're not a 2D anime character as much as you might want to be. sorry lol i still love you though grace.
>>6177972
By which I mean that I started bullying back. I really hated how the other kids pushed some of us around. I mean, I really didn't fit in. I had experienced so much more than my peers, just because of how I was brought up. Funnily enough, for a while the girls took me under their wing. It was a bit too late for me, and the damage had already been done to me. I was spending a good deal of my time in a world of my own. It really didn't help that as time went on, I got more and more distrustful of people. Small betrayals build up. The interesting thing about the human mind is just how far it can be pushed and bounce back.
Of course there's a limit to how far you can stretch it. I was alone at this point. Truly alone. We were moving houses every few weeks, my parents were too busy to pay any attention to me, and I was moving from child minder to child minder at a pace that would be unhealthy for any young mind, least of all my own. So I started hearing voices. At first, it was one personality, then another, then another. Looking back at it, what I was doing was unconsciously sharding aspects of my personality to protect myself. They were necessary though. I was mildly aware that each one of them was "me". And yes, quite a few of them were female. In total, by sixth class, I think there were 12 or thirteen of them?
Contd.
>>6178011
I'm sorry, shak, but at times you are pretty obnoxious and I'm sure you understand that this being 4chan no one is gonna pull their punches. In this thread you were nicer and you got nicer responses in return. It would be nice if you could identify the parts of your personality that makes people react badly to you, not necesarily change them but at least acknowledge them.
What happened to the pure Grace I once knew?
>>6178027
She got popular
>>6177995
>shower
No no, get an actual bathtub!
>thread updates
>all these (You)s
Oh dear.
>>6178004
I mean it just kind of happens sometimes it's not like a bad speech impediment just kind of me being bad at talking
>>6178005
M-mommy please >< Who are youu
>>6178006
>Arma 2
Oooh
I kinda like Arma but it's too serious for me
I tried to get into a group for Arma 3 but I had to show up for regular "training" and a whole bunch of stupid stuff.
>>6178007
:3
>>6178010
Nah it's not forced, if I forced it it would be stupid and annoy people, it just happens.
>>6178012
ANSWER THE QUESTION ANON
>>6178015
>5:30
I get up early like that for work
>>6178017
IM NOT DOING IT ON PURPOSE
>>6178027
>>6178029
>they didn't know about the secret lewd side
I guess I could do a better job at hiding it but I like having fun once in a while ;>>
https://clyp.it/3ydozodw
Hey so I'm gonna actually try this voice training thing.
Here's my first time trying a female voice for real so feel free to tell me how horrendous it is so long as you tell me what to improve on.
>>6178000
Is dat sum Kraken
My friends love that shit but I could never stomach it.
>>6178032
I just use arma to shit around with friends and drive around and talk about dumb stuff
besides bb all our training will be private ;3
>>6178032
Graaaaaace how do I get popular???
>tfw actually had a nicely rounded ass w/o dips even before hrt
it's a little less plump now I lost weight, kinda sucks, hopefully fat redistribution will be favorable to it
>>6177937
>jaw actually is meant to hurt
aw fuck
>>6178034
Is that legitimately your first time because what the fuck or are you another one of those people who have been singing all their life or something?
>>6178034
that's a really pretty name, is it french?
>>6177974
I want to blitz a little Superpower desu ;~;
its time for me tho, big day tomorrow
goofnight
>>6178041
CUYZ YOU A LITTLE FAGGOT FEMBOIII~!!
>>6178032
>IM NOT DOING IT ON PURPOSE
i'd work on fixing it, people in the real world, i.e. job interviews, work meeting etc won't take you seriously if you stutter.
but don't mind me i'm a normie that doesn't think her ultimate goal should be becoming a live in cum dumpster for some chaser bf. i'd like to have value past the age of 30 when you stop being pretty.
>tfw perfect weather for shorts but you're closeted and afraid someone might notice you shave your legs
Anyone else felling this feel?
>>6178032
Shhh, Mommy wants to see just how "lewd" you are~
>>6178032
>No no, get an actual bathtub!
I'm sorry I don't have fancy bathing installed in my rented apartment.
showers seemed hotter because you're standing next to each other rubbing your bodies, bathtubs sound very limited.
>>6178027
>>6178029
>it's a shy girl becomes popular and ruins her charm episode
>>6178020
12 or thirteen pieces does not a whole person make though. This protection came at a price, but it worked. If one personality grew weary of the taunting, the fighting, the stress, another one took its place. I don't have too many memories of this time, because "I" was rarely "present", but this was when I took a potshot at a stranger. What it means is that I have a part of me that has no concern for human life and would rather laugh at its misfortune. I don't like this, but there's nothing I can do but indulge it every so often, in private, where it can't hurt anyone.
This horrible time of my life came to a rather sudden and unexpected end in Secondary school. My best friend came into my life like a fucking bastard child of an angel and the devil. He's the sole reason why I am in anyway functional. I can't imagine what I must have been like back then, but from what he's told me, I was half feral. It's not all that surprising really, but my actions were not excusable. I was biting people who got too close to me, out of fear that they'd hurt me. Ironically his hurting me is what helped. Every time I did something that was not socially acceptable, he'd punch me. Hard. Very hard. But I needed that. I needed someone to teach me what was right and wrong.
>>6177757
But alone I swear it reduces my hairy lip.
Ideally applied before and after plucking.
It takes longer to grow back.
>>6178045
Apparently by being adorable and having a secret lewd side
>tfw no gf
>>6178063
>lewd side
check
>adorable
ehhhhhh maybe?
>mfw bullied whenever I post selfies
>fuck birdy
>>6178058
I just wear shorts anyway desu. Nobody has questioned me about it so far. I've only gotten comments about my nails.
>>6178066
>tfw iktf
>tfw no f
>>6178049
Was it good? Yes I am a good singer
Also I have a natural ability with impressions.
>>6178050
Yeah it means penis sucle
>>6178045
>post here for four months and talk to a lot of people
>make friends with people from the thread outside of the thread
>reach out to people who need someone to talk to
>eventually people like you I guess?
>>6178044
What if I want to blow up towelheads?
Don't ask, don't tell~.
>>6178055
Pan I fucking love you for your tough love
Yeah
I think it might be because I don't talk as much as I used to desu
When I was working full/overtime at my fast food job I HAD to be very good at speaking fluently and fluidly
Sometimes I'd slip up but it wasn't like this
Idk maybe I just need to Skype people more so I stop sounding like a retard!
>>6178059
Well if you really do you better say hi to me outside the thread I don't like getting too lewd or like going on like this it's inappropriate and annoys everyone else
>>6178060
>I'm sorry I don't have fancy bathing installed in my rented apartment.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you'd have one
>showers seemed hotter because you're standing next to each other rubbing your bodies, bathtubs sound very limited.
Yeah, that's true too, maybe you could try to keep the steam from escaping the room so you don't get cold when you're not in the water?
>>it's a shy girl becomes popular and ruins her charm episode
;_;
I NEED TO GO BACK TO MY ROOTS
>>6178063
I'm not adorable, just a dumb looking boy that's horny sometimes. :/
>>6178066
>iktf
>>6178071
;______;
im so lonely
birdy come back we all forgive you we were wrong about you
>>6178053
tht's not nice :^(
>>6178055
I have a real strange speech problem from multiple cases of sever head trauma. People rarely care in a professional aspect so long as you can string coherent ideas together and are capable of doing whatever work. Random people will however start stuttering at you because they're cunts.
>Tfw trapped within my own masculine body
Kill me
>>6178074
Thank god. I feel so hopeless whenever people just pull a fem voice out of their ass and I'm here moaning and squealing for months and I'm none the wiser how to change the resonance.
>>6178076
>just need to Skype people more
let skype this weekend sometime, haha. i don't think i've been in a call with you more than a couple times, we always talk on discord. lol
but ya, tough love, i wouldn't say it if i didn't care about you. haha
<3
>>6178061
I get the feeling that I'm portraying him in a very negative light, but I need you to understand. I was more of an animal back then than a person. And while he was harsh, he was always fair. And he was always there. Evil he may be, and he is, he's only ever in something for his own gain, but he's exactly what I needed. As time went on, I came to be more and more present, started acting "normally" over time. The funny thing is, the voices, and the illusions only got stronger. I wasn't sleeping well. At all really. 1 or two nights of sleep a week, and plenty of naps. So I hallucinated a lot. Now I know a lot of people who hear voices say that they can't be trusted, but... well, I'm a little unique. Somehow, even thought I had come to be depressed, the other, sharded aspects of my personality were not.
And so, they protected me from myself. When I wanted to slit my wrists, and throw myself off bridges, they would always fight back, make me back down. Do the right thing. It's only really the last two years of secondary school that I started to pull those aspects back together. I needed them less and less as time went on and things got better. By the time that I started really dealing with my depression, they had all fused together again. Even the violent part. But when things get really bad, the voices return. It's nice actually. Knowing that you have a safeguard against yourself. But it's not healthy.
And now you know.
What do people think? I don't often tell this story.
does anyone want to be gfs im so lonely
>>6178087
I'm gonna make myself mute I think. I'll never get voice right
>>6177980
>ideal date
>drink and watch seinfeld
>drink sienfeld
Literally, how?
>>6178089
I don't do voicechat often because I don't like my voice and I'm known as Grace now to most of my friends. The ones that don't know I'm trans I don't wanna blow my cover to, and I don't want everyone else hearing me sound like this.
https://clyp.it/q53qssrc
It's just, embarrassing I guess. I wanna sound like a girl like everyone else.
>but ya, tough love, i wouldn't say it if i didn't care about you. haha
Yeahhh, I'm sure you have more stuff to yell at me about that I probably need to hear. >>
>>6178099
Lauren please you're really pretty you shouldn't be so desperate.
>>6178100
But I want to beg and moan when Miss Grace punishes me :(
>>6178025
/mtfg/ doesn't like me, I tried to fit in, I failed. I don't care anymore, I'm just here to talk now. Please let's just be civil to each other from now on.
Goodnight
i lied, i'm back
what was it like 4 days this time?
>>6178101
what's wrong with a seinfeld slammer
that's probably a drink
>>6178103
Puru please :x
>>6178110
What is?
>>6178111
OUT OUT OUT
>>6178099
Where is the application?
>>6178102
You sound like a popular guy from a high school sitcom that takes place on a beach. It was a lil unexpected desu
>>6178061
>>6177960
>>6178020
I see parallels of what I went through in this, the problems manifested themselves very differently though and I guess I just withdrew from all social interaction and missed out on a decade of my life. I can sit here all day but no matter how hard I try I can probably only remember about 3 or four days from that whole span of time.
I dont know what to do, i'm so deathly afraid of trying to patch up and keep going and having to speak to people and do normal people things.
I feel as though my life is forever ruined.
What do you do? How do you get by?
Things are better for you now right?
(I had no idea this was /mtfg/ when I posted this, just sorta descended from the homepage, sorry if i'm not welcome)
>>6178102
no way to get better if you don't talk to people, we'll talk this weekend. i'm in class now i can't listen to voice. i can help with voice training. i think my voice is pretty alright. just practice practice practice. you won't get better if you're not talking nonstop. gotta grow some thick skin and get over your fear of being judged. you'll only get better by putting yourself out there a bit. practicing by yourself can only get you so far.
hi everyone
>>6178122
Hello!
>>6178122
hi anne <3
>>6178087
https://clyp.it/0uojgk5f
>>6178116
https://clyp.it/gg0uqokt
>>6178118
That's a good point, thank you <3
Yeah I need to get thicker skin especially as I move towards presenting girlier and girlier. Like I wore girlclothes in public Tuesday, tomorrow I'm supposed to be getting my hair done, I'm kinda slowly drifting closer to full time and I should be getting my voice ready for that as well.
>>6178122
Hey!
>>6178122
Ello
>>6178113
>What is?
That you're just a cute small girl despite the voice
>>6178118
>practicing by yourself can only get you so far.
But how do you know how you sound like if you don't play it back for yourself?
>>6178102
>like everyone else
no you dont http://vocaroo.com/i/s0F5hzo3XY3Z
https://clyp.it/1aatoc2h
I guess we're doing this or something?
>>6178106
I forgive you,
There.
That's one anon, its a start. Now chill your bones.
>>6178113
ok i'll leave sorry
>>6177836
It's about genetics
>>6178113
Everything you say in that clip.
>bear heart to MtFG.
>No feedback
tl:dr I guess?
>>6178117
Nvm
Get in here and sit by the fire for a bit, we're friendly people.
Things get better, you might need help though.
Things are definitely better for me. I'm a better person, and I'm far healthier. Both in terms of stress and in physical health because of it.
Really, the only way to get by, is to force someone else to teach you... I had Darragh, my best friend, and I trust him with my life because of it. Of course, I started to learn from others too. Careful observation of how the react to each situation. Just sit back and watch, and try not to involve yourself, and next time that situation pops up, copy what everyone else did.
I'm not sure if I can offer more than this, but do get a proper professional opinion, I'm just some random person on the internet!
>>6178127
It's kinda deep for a female; you might wanna work on your pitch
>>6178128
Kek audio betrays reality once again
>>6178115
wait do you mean that you do
I need to cuddle in someone's lap and cry
>>6178148
me too
>>6178112
Welp, I guess you shut mouth up!
Also,
Why are you so clever?
>>6178034
It sounds as if you're going a bit falseto. Try reading two or three pages of a book to check if you can really keep that tone.
>>6178045
act shy and show a more or less passing early transition, let the anons groom you and feel they have a stake on your happyness.
No offense, grace.
>>6178058
a friend of mine asked me to be an extra in a short, jumping a rope in very short pants and a tight sweatshirt. I sperged as fuck but once in there no one said anything, although I'm assuming most though I was gay from the start.
>>6178052
good night, reich.
>>6178094
I read it all, I can't promise I'll remember all of this about your life but I hope getting it out of your chest helped a little by itself.
I'll ask again, cool irish army or monstruous british army?
>>6178106
you don't read a single word people say to you apparently
>>6178117
we have our fair share of chasers, so a neutral anon is cool
>tfw cute sub bf to give handjobs to and tug on his dog collar
>>6178139
>6178139
https://clyp.it/22w5lv34
>>6178134
so, I'm sort of new to most of the trips. what's your deal kiwi?
>>6178144
How do you get your trip to spell stuff?
>>6178106
you tried to make enemies from the start. Literally one hour in, you posted a tier list. fuck off.
>>6178133
nm right now
how about you?
>>6178134
It's for your own good, you always feel better when you're not here :/
>>6178148
>>6178149
My lap is open for you girls.
>>6178151
I mean if you're talking about me you complimented my transition so far so that's alright
>let the anons groom you and feel they have a stake on your happyness
not sure what this means tho
>>6178127
that's much better than I expected. it sounds passable, but for how long can you hold that tone before cracking up? that's the big issue.
>>6178164
Is also 700 miles away, probably
>>6178151
>cool irish army or monstruous british army?
They both have their merits.
>I read it all, I can't promise I'll remember all of this about your life but I hope getting it out of your chest helped a little by itself.
A story is a story. The only thing to do with history is make sure it doesn't happen again.
I'm just happy to share it and hope that someone enjoys it.
>>6178152
See above.
Honestly I'm not too bothered that there wasn't much of a reaction. I'm just used to /tg/ calling bullshit!
https://clyp.it/ky4qvoz0
I can do higer pitch but it's also way lower volume so meh, how2 resonance?
>>6178152
Sounds like a teenager, could be either gender desu.
>>6178127
Probs could go a bit higher if that's more your style but nothing wrong with it that I can spot.
>>6178131
That's not so bad
>>6178128
are you really trying with you voice? recheck the excercises in the OP (this one or the general mtf help thread, one of them had great guides and the other not so much)
>>6178148
I feel nothing
>>6178106
did u get drama lessons from kayla?
>>6178133
making pizza and yawning
oh monday was the first anniversary of opening the pizzeria!
>>6178168
My figurative lap is also open for you.
>>6178172
I lost my progress with my voice but I'm gonna get more determined to do something about it now. Especially now that Pan wants to get on me about it lol. But yeah, I slacked off because I assumed I had more time but honestly like idk I should have already made huge progress by now.
>>6178169
>They both have their merits.
Oh, wait, you mean my dad? He was Irish army. One of the first peace keepers in Lebanon, back when they were fighting radical Christians.
>>6178175
Maybe Kayla should be a drama coach..
>>6178167
I'm alone....i don't know anyone within 500 miles, I'm scared, i don't pass but i try, so I've been assaulted, and I'm afraid if it happening again, I'm scared my transisiton is going to fail. I'm not good at anything, not even video games, I'm an old gross hon who just started hrt last year.
>>6178138
>>bear heart to MtFG.
>>No feedback
you were initially talking to me but my conexion craped out and it took very long to be able to answer. usually when people aren't involved in a wall oftext they jsut skip it.
>>6178152
speak louder, your soft voice always lies.
>>6178154
transdoms are very rare so you'll find your suitors with time.
>>6178166
Okay, once my parents go to bed I'll upload something longer.
>>6178079
I'm done with /mtfg/ for the time being
All this drama and chaser witch hunt bullshit is exhausting at this point, I maintain that I've done no wrong and anyone who knows me will say the same
Besides, I got my fill of spiteful, gossipy cliques in school
>>6178150
ey bb you gotta be clever to get a waifu y'know what I'm sayin'
>>6178138
I will see someone for therapy soon it's just, I have to maintain hope somehow and as much as I know help is literally around the corner I still just feel like nothing will ever get better and this is my future, now.
but at this point i'm just bellyaching, I never really get an opportunity to
thanks for posting though, it means a lot to see someone who has been making the situation get better. I mean maybe I can but I just have to see. Maybe I'll get friends and start to get closer to what is normal
>>6178182
Honestly. I should just leave this general and never come back.
What fucking future am I trying to build.
>>6178161
oldfag magic
>>6178163
That really isn't the issue, though. The general tone makes the difference. I'm sure that most girls who post pics are more than ready to be told that they don't pass, but when you're an ass about it then you get hate.
And as I said, I see Shak calming down and becoming a regular low voice in the mass.
>>6178164
>not sure what this means tho
I was refering to that dance queen stuff, if anons think that what they say is making you actually feel better irl they'll see you as a pet project.
Nothing particularly wrong with that, it's way better than being a bitch.
>>6178112
* shut my mouth up.
>>6178155
I'm not sure, tbqh. It just sounded kinda andro in the first one. That one actually sounded a little better, you just need to iron out the timbre.
>>6178169
I honestly believe it, and knowing people who have SOs with DID, where the dominant personality is a sociopath, I'm actually really happy that you had a friend who could pull you back into reality.
>>6178171
The second one is a little high. I might just get comfortable with my current voice while I'm still shifting into faggy-boymode.
>>6178183
you know it
>>6178194
yeah, she doesn't do much to stand out as hate-able. There are... others... who piss me off quite a bit. I don't wish to summon them.
>>6178168
Try 4k+ miles to basically everyone else here
>>6178194
Oh, that. Yeah, that was weird. I feel like maybe it was intended to hurt me by boosting my confidence and then ruining it by showing it was all fake. However, it backfired in that I got a ton of REAL support that helped keep my confidence afloat. I'll take it over being called a hon constantly but meh.
>they'll see you as a pet project.
I'm doing my best to stay me was things go on. I'm even thinking about taking a break from the internet for a while just so I can kinda reset myself.
I'm really ugly, right?
>>6178191
Chin up, and soldier on. I have no intention of leaving the general anytime soon so if you want to talk, come back anytime, but I do operate on GMT. If I'm not here, just ask around for me or "Agony Uncle", and someone will let me know that you were looking.
>>6178207
Well, people watch Shakespeare's tragedies...
>>6178171
it sounds a bit falseto. focus on resonating on your face, feeling the words on your lips and not in the back of the throat (I don't know if that makes sense right now but try to concentrate on where you send the air)
>>6178209
You're pretty average.
>>6178209
No, I wish I was as cute as you.
>>6178209
those shoulders, lmao. gl passing. you'll need it
>>6178189
Bye Felicia.
Right, it's 3 am. Time for sleep. Talk to you all in the morning!
>>6178190
>get a waifu
You're searching? What are you looking for?
>>6178181
clearly this is an untapped tranny market to expand from IT and camming
>>6178181
that's a career path that accepts trans so it could work.
>>6178187
I'd like to hear that. But also, unless you're using this voice already in your life, it's a good practise to read a few pages of a book to check if you really can naturalize it.
>>6178189
There has been no chaser talk this whole day (also I've wasted a day of my life here). Maybe you should consider that if you get a certain response from people then your actions have something to do with it.
>unmute people on kageshi
>robins voice what the fuck
>>6178209
don't be down on yourself like that Ugly is a word reserved for the truly horrendous.
You arent at all bad looking but id rather say good looking.
what do you think? seriously when you see yourself in the mirror
>>6178230
sexy, right?
>>6178230
ya he's fuckign repulsive, it literally eats poo. its the epitome of repulsiveness. hopefully it'll off itself or get put down.
>>6178182
Well, that sound like my story...it really sucks. I feel like giving up on a daily basis. I have literally no Idea what to do and how to proceed. I just keep on thinking seeing everyone here will make me inspired or how to move out of my rut.
Don't isolate yourself. I'm here for you, though I guess I'm not much help : |
>>6178239
why is eating poo repulsive?
>>6178211
Thank you very much, I'll try to remember that and its okay I'm on UK hours myself.
Its a rarity for me to even be up at this time but I was feeling kind of bad I'm very pleased to have caught this post today. What I'm saying in a long roundabout way is that I appreciate it. (:
>>6178212
>focus on resonating on your face, feeling the words on your lips and not in the back of the throat
I know I'm supposed to shift from throat/chest resonance to head resonance but how do I do that? I'm completely clueless :s
>try to concentrate on where you send the air
Outwards? I've not been inhaling this whole time or did you mean something else.
>it sounds a bit falseto
Yeah I'm now stuck on falsetto, that's what I've been told to practice with in every single guide and tutorial that I've been grinding through since january :B
>>6178209
Looks cute to me, I'm jelly
>>6178244
My puppy eats her poo and I get really angry. I can't stay mad at her forever because she's soooooo cute.
I don't approve of her eating poo and I love her
>>6178204
try other side of the continent vertically
>>6178206
>I'm even thinking about taking a break from the internet for a while just so I can kinda reset myself.
I'd say it's pretty healthy. In under a year of no internet I finished three classes jumping straight to final exams.
>>6178209
you have a feminin face and enough hair to hide a lot of it if needed irl. skinny skelletons look androgynous but hrt+a bit of fat is better.
posting a nice pic and saying you are ugly, considering how a lot of posters look like, is pretty vain so you should tripfag and let us know of your progress.
>>6178211
>Well, people watch Shakespeare's tragedies...
but those didn't happen to him
>>6178226
kek
film students love having androgynous actors since they can feel progressive and they functionally get bargain bin andro models.
>>6178250
Swallow, and try to hold it. Once you build the muscle control to pull your trachea up, it'll give you the timbre and range you need.
http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
>>6178209
>tfw I'll never be that cute
Time for sudoku
>>6178243
it's easy to get trapped in 4chan, which is another kind of isolation.
si en el futuro empezás a practicar la voz avisame y te agrego en skype para chequear.
Cheeky tavern brawl deck :3
>>6178212
sensual
Alright! Only two performances to go, and then I'm full time and living with my friends. I almost can't hold all my excitement.
What's mtfg up to tonight?
>>6178270
Aw I wish i was into this, i only play pokemon and yu gi oh
is it easy to learn/get into?
>>6178276
yes and no
it's free to play and very much like mtg/yu gi/pokemon, but to get competitive, you need to spend a small fortune on cards
>>6177983
in short how it was for me :
>night pre op :
enema , literally the worst part about surgery imo
>day of surgery :
too drugged to notice shit
>day : 2
till drugged
90% sleeping
the moments awake not in the mood to move much anyway , practicing holding pee back and stuff
>day 3:
shitposting,games, sleeping , food
>day 4:
drainage out
a tiny bit more moving
garmes
sleeping
>day 5 :
first small sitting up attempt
sleeping
>day 6 :
shower
passing out cause walking hard
sleeping
>day 7 :
release
shower
dilation
hours of walking
no pooping till like day 8 or something (package blocks it)
>>6178218
I thought they were huge. I guess they are.
>>6178215
>>6178250
>>6178264
Thanks..
>>6178232
I don't really like anything about myself, I think I'm very ugly and I don't really feel like I ever pass. I'm just a boy with long hair.
>>6178258
>you should tripfag and let us know of your progress.
I don't think there's a point to that, I've been on hormones for over a year now I doubt there will be any more progress...
>>6178258
Oh, it would just be maybe a week at most. There's just too much bullshit going on for me to deal with constantly. I'm always stressed when I come online because there's always something happening and I can't just have a relaxing day. And that's without /mtfg/. I might give my # to a couple friends to text them and then set Steam/Skype/Discord offline and stay away from /lgbt/.
>>6178250
first of all the throat thing is pretty great, I'm not practicing to pass and still use it when I want to shift my voice.
>I know I'm supposed to shift from throat/chest resonance to head resonance but how do I do that? I'm completely clueless :s
the way you visualize in singing is to send your voice to your chin for low tones and to the back of your head for high tones. it sounds weird, I know. make a random noise and try to make it go from your throat to different heighs of your head. it's really easy if you have someone next to you but on text it's hard to make it sound logical. just do it.
>Outwards? I've not been inhaling this whole time or did you mean something else.
I kek'd
as I said, from your throat to the top of your head and then back to your chin.
Ideally you should be sending the air in a way that makes your lips tingle.
>falseto
Falseto is cheating your tone, it sounds fake and you can't use it all the time or you'll kill your throat. Avoid it at all costs.
>>6178282
that sounds... not terrible, actually.
I thought it would be so much worse.
>>6178255
I never know how to imagine you, Sass. I know you're pre everything so I won't ask you to post pics, but at times I imagine a nerdy web designer and at times I imagine a hon with a chihuahua in her purse...
>>6178293
I have to say, that sounds like someone who's early-transition.
>>6178225
I dunno, someone cute and loyal to drink, play games with and complain about shit with
someone said I looked like scully from the x files
>>6178291
same tbqh
but it was like
>you aren't in the mood to move anyway
>you have nurses taking care of you
>people visiting from tranny HQ
>phone and wifi
like sure when you are healthy lying around a week sounds horrible
but it's kinda like "how much are you in the mood to move a lot when you are sick"
>>6178284
changes keep hapening for 6 years
you need a bit more fat in your body to really have it change. eat more and excercise.
also, your face is cute. at the very least I'm sure you'd find guys who are into you if that's your deal.
>>6178272
Thats awesome!
>>6178296
both parts?
I'm latinamerican as Sass so I have to picture her in our own kind of stereotypes.
>>6178298
I can see it
>>6178298
kek, yeah, a little bit. do you have any huge glasses and/or female suits with ridiculous shoulder pads? you could cosplay scully.
>>6177621
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THEY LOOK FUCKING ADORABLE
>>6178282
that could be worse. bring it the fuck on
>>6178304
old series she had short red hair
>>6178304
in the pic from this thread she reminds me of season 2 scully, when she was having her real life baby and was barely on.
>>6178306
Okay on it! I need hats that aren't baseball caps anyway.
>>6178312
>knitting your own
you go, hon!
very fem
>>6178258
>try other side of the continent vertically
Well the further you go from the states the closer you go to australia. I'm kind of in the middle, stupidly far from both
>>6178261
Yeah that's exactly what causes my voice to sound like falsetto/hon/whatever. To get back to guyvoice it needs to click downwards. Seeing how shitty I was doing after 4-5 months of this shit my plan was just to get a voice surgery a few years down the line if I get my tranny diagnosis but people here told me the surgeries have like 30% failure rate. Not only that but the thought of having to live with this up until that ambiguous point in the future was enough to make me want to keep practicing.
>>6178276
It's easy to learn but you need to spend a bunch of money or a huge grind to get necessary cards to be competitive. The competitive aspect also sucks imo, basically 100% rng on who draws better with most popular decks thus how you play it has very little impact in the end result. I'd say pokmon tcg is superior to this one
>>6178289
>make a random noise and try to make it go from your throat to different heighs of your head
But that's just more falsetto, pitch raising until it fades.
>as I said, from your throat to the top of your head and then back to your chin. Ideally you should be sending the air in a way that makes your lips tingle.
I'm sorry I have no idea how to go that high. The resonance comes from where my larynx is and it doesn't move higher than a certain point in my neck. I get that that's probably not where it should be coming from but I got no idea how to move it in other ways than that. Usually people give up on giving advise when I tell them this so yeah
>it sounds fake and you can't use it all the time or you'll kill your throat. Avoid it at all costs.
And now I'm told this. My voice is probs ded because I've been using only this for months.
>>6178313
https://youtu.be/hAAlDoAtV7Y?t=20s
>>6178313
>using worst pic of me ever someone took on the tinychat when I was overweight
nice going lilly
>>6178285
>tfw grace never talks to you again
noooooooo pls
>>6178321
I'm not dying anon, at least I'm not planning on it. I'll be back. Send me a message if you want me to stay in touch.
>>6178323
gracie gimme ur # so we can text!
>>6178308
that looks like me
kill me
>>6178303
Just like, being split between the male image that you present to the world and the female image that you present to yourself.
>>6178306
idk if I can pull it off though... not exactly a hat person
maybe it would fit my look, I already have the whole innocent college-girl outfit.
>>6178299
I mean, day 1 sounded terrible until you said that you're pretty much still drugged out
when's the first time you can pee?
>>6178317
voice surgery only really works if you know how to throw your voice correctly in the first place. You're likely going to try to pull it back down to how you're used to hearing it.
>>6178326
>tfw lurking in thread waiting to see if korra will post >,<
hihii
>>6178326
We should probably talk a little on Skype or something first. I'm kinda protective of my #, it's not as easy to change as a Skype alt or something like that.
>>6178331
>if you know how to throw your voice correctly in the first place
What?
>You're likely going to try to pull it back down to how you're used to hearing it
Pull what down? My larynx is basically against my hyroid bone or whatever it's called all the time already
>>6178331
>when's the first time you can pee?
without catheter ?
day 7
with it in ?
day 1
>day 1 sounded terrible until you said that you're pretty much still drugged out
it frankly wasn't
it was like
>lay down
>get moved down to room
>"suporn will be here soon"
>chilled as fuck
>sit up
>they think I'm freaking out
>have to tell them that I just feel like sitting
>k.jpg
>suporn comes
>talk
>drug
>sleep
>wake up
>vagina
>>6178307
ye
>>6178304
>>6178313
lmao anon pls
>>6178300
Okay I'll become trip and post disgusting photos of myself every day.
>>6178332
hi!
>>6178282
That sounds like everything went super smooth. I wonder how it's like when things go to shit because life is full of surprises like that
>>6178348
hi quid
Okay since it worked for Lauren I'll give it a shot..
someone be my gf pls
>>6178355
>>6178314
Don't be mean, knitting is good for everyone.
>>6178317
(last anon... also first but I don't have anything to add there)
Don't picture where it comes as much as where it goes, imagine your trying to send to air from your neck to the back of your head.
>more falsetto
no, falsetto is locking your neck to make an octave jump. I'm telling you to search for your natural range.
As I said before, it sounds weird but visualize and do it until it makes sense.
I didn't mean to insutl you personally, I'm sorry if you hurt your throat because no one told you that falsetto is a bad idea outside of the opera. it's a quick alternative but everyone can distinguish a normal tone from falsetto.
>>6178320
you already posted a better one so don't worry too much.
>>6178351
well the worst I've heard was one girl who ate too much (like extra meals, heavy meals etc.) and had to poop and it kinda shoved the package out so they had to redo the package
but that's the worst I've heard when I was there
>>6178330
>kill me
why?
scully is an icon ingrained in a whole generation, millions out there have her as the higest definition of what a woman is.
>>6178354
hi anon how are you?
>tfw finally unbanned for posting Trump memes about Kayla
ok so I took the time off to try and work on my voice, still sounds like shit but what do you think
https://clyp.it/jxver4gw
>>6178358
I'm on my way gurl
>>6178341
she's saying that if you just have surgery your head will still say that your old voice is the right one and push it even if it's no longer natural.
>>6178345
>and post disgusting photos of myself every day.
please, don't, you'll atract chasers.
just show us if you tried a cool make up or bought clothes or have something to share.
I'll try to remember that Marissa is the girl with the cute face, scrawny body, 1 year in and low self esteem. I'll probably confuse you with 80% of the people here.
>>6178367
>Trump memes about Kayla
fucking what
>>6178355
transbians get out
>>6178359
>Don't be mean
>how about you go fuck yourself
>>6178341
I'm very confused now.
>>6178344
er, day 2, or like, first time waking up after op. I heard it was painful af, but since drugs, probably not.
>>6178355
>>6178366
just had supper and you?
>>6178382
ah idk
I took exactly 2 morphine shots during that week
one on day 1 for pain and one on day 4 for fun
those were literally the only times I took painkillers
>>6178375
I basically just said "Kayla is a mess", etc and got banned for it. Apparently its "off topic"
>>6178359
>I'm telling you to search for your natural range.
How do I know what's my natural range? I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore, my natural voice sounds like that clip I posted earlier. If I try to go lower it sounds like I'm hitting puberty again and that my voice is constantly cracking.
>Don't picture where it comes as much as where it goes, imagine your trying to send to air from your neck to the back of your head.
Ahhh this is really confusing, I don't know how to explain what I'm having trouble with :/ How do I control this? Like is it your lungs, is it your larynx, is it your mouth? What part can I make that 'direction' change with?
>>6178374
>>6178382
>she's saying that if you just have surgery your head will still say that your old voice is the right one and push it even if it's no longer natural.
Isn't that ideal? All you need to do is let it come naturally and not force any pre-existing voice.
>>6178363
Well I was thinking more of like surgical complications, ripped stiches and whatnot. Call me a pessimist but I can easily see something exactly like that happening to me :D
>>6178293
Holy shit! Like that fucker from silence of the lambs? With a deep voice and shit? Hahahahaha
Since I'm going through a manic ep and you've used your negs well, here is teh only semi pic emteefgee is gettin'. So you can semi-fap or make fun of me, but if you do, I'll leave. Faster than a shiny mewtwo
>>6178363
that'll be me, i'm a complete piglet
I wish I was a real girl instead of a gross mess
>>6178376
No
>>6178373
Oh, we could use that.
>>6178382
?
>>6178367
falsetto, you can hear it crack and your natural voice come up. it's not a viable way to use 24/7 and it won't really help you find your tone. Try to slowly get your your tone a little bit higher at a time until you reach the highest you can get without needless effort.
you'll recognize when you're doing falsetto because there will be a sudden jump and you'll sound like a mix between a hon and a sex line.
>>6178381
I was just joking, I'm sorry if it sounded as if I was seriously angry in real life that you would pay for someone's effort to get something you liked.
>>6178367
>https://clyp.it/jxver4gw
https://clyp.it/jzvbt4ge
>>6178390
>one on day 4 for fun
last time I took painkillers for fun, it made me feel totally like a girl. It was a ton of fun, up until it wore off and left me more depressed than I had ever been before.
>>6178403
nevermind, it's none of my business.
>>6178395
I mean, there's a voice you hear in your head, that you'll end up speaking like. I know that if your vocal chords are springy, it'll almost be like you never had the surgery, but idk how it'll be if they've calcified
>direction
try to pull towards your chin
>>6178406
>not eating food
literally how
>>6178395
>How do I know what's my natural range?
you slowly go up, as if you were singing the least inspired song in the world without any lyrics. that's your range, it can be improved but ideally you should find a female tone around it. at the very least you should be able to hit 5 different full tones since you're a human being and all that.
just compress your larynx as if you were sending the sound backwards to get your highest natural tone, ideally you should find one that hits around your nose or mouth.
>isn't that ideal
no, we mean you go back to your male tone even if your anatomy was changed because that sounds correct in your head.
>>6178415
>nevermind, it's none of my business.
What? Do you wanna talk to me on Skype or something?
>send nude to someone
>"your balls are so big"
I want an orchi right fucking now please I want these stupid things gone.
>>6178397
Maybe I can accidentally the whole Islam and wear the veil?
Thanks tho. :) or are u hugboxing me? In case you're hugboxing then this >:(
>>6178397
did you post yourself in the hon thread?
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/breatharian-barbie-valeria-lukyanova_n_4873706.html
>>6178376
chaser leave
>>6178374
Just one photo per day.
>>6178419
>tfw literally can't consciously control the muscles around the neck, larynx etc. area
>can't even swallow easily when drinking most of the time and end up coughing and choking lots
how the fuck do people do it
I was just in the kageshi and everyone has such perfect voices by even 1 year hrt it's so fucking depressing, how the fuck do you change the resonance
How am I doing for first day working on my voice? An hour in so far...
https://clyp.it/r15kzv2m
>>6178420
I... sure. Isoteran.
>>6178397
as another anon said your top head passes, consider becoming a muslim.
no, god no, let's avoid movie transexual killers. just the kind of hon that would appear in day time TV in a talk show. I guess I was more wondering how did you see yourself, no wrong answers.
My life has been a lie! God is dead! The government’s lame! Thanksgiving is about killing Indians! Jesus wasn’t born on Christmas, they moved the date, it was a pagan holiday!
>>6178428
Criticisms wanted. Nothing improves without coming to terms with its flaws!
>>6178432
How's anon's house?
Red got laid.
>>6178422
I hugbox no one, if I don't have anything nice to say I won't say it
>gf says we should watch an anime she watched as a kid she loved to share something special with her
>character introduced is a food obsessed airhead fuckup
>'I hate this character!'
>the character is literally me
:0
>>6178436
Pretty Fucking nice desu
can I make beer with my tranny foreskin bacteria?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7HY6ssS4Ak
im gay lol
>>6178414
sure sassy can be nice
but we barely know each other sass-chan~~
>>6178430
eating ice cream in hospital is A+ i've done it every time, even the time i was meant to have heart scans, escaped the ward and ran around the countryside with my ass hanging out until my parents picked me up. still had a cornetto.
>>6178443
Ow the stupidity
>>6178447
You cunt that's my trip
>>6178414
as we say, I'm white as a tity. but this is 4chan so argentine = black.
(also my skin looks much better when I take some sun, which is hard when you don't want to show your body outside)
we have more than a few white transexuals working corners here, sexual exploitation is an equal oportunity work enviroment.
uh, uh, una para compartir en castellano. oiste alguna vez de transur? Es una webserie de ultra bajo presupuesto sobre transexuales uruguayas. 90% "hons" pero siento que es bastante diferente su contexto del de la tipica trans de 40 años que deja a su mujer y eso.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaKBxN9VEZQ
>>6178456
You're laying on my tummy and i saw it
i couldnt not
tfw mado hasnt punched a hole in your wall yet
>tfw no idea what to cook
>>6178426
sounds cool, good to have you here
>>6178427
well, voice is unrelated to hrt anyway. i don't want to be mean but for a lot of people getting the right voice is a way to feel they aproach their goal while the hormones are still taking their time.
There are two parts, one is the tone and the other the resonance. Tone can be achieved by anyone who knows a bit about singing and practices, resonance is a bit different since it's something you really have to find yourself. In my case the better resonance I get feels funny in the lips and bothers me, I'm still trying to get it right.
The throat affects both things. I'd recommend just getting a voice specialist, the ones you'd go to fix a lisp, and ask her for one to one real life help.
>>6178459
Brb killing self
>>6178463
I blame my soberity
>>6178460
>I guess I was more wondering how did you see yourself
that isn't asking if you're a hon, it's asking what kind of girl do you see yourself being/becoming once you are free to live full time.
>>6178464
>google tasty recipes
>follow directions
>it really is just that easy
>>6178432
Halloween is the only real holiday Americans celebrate and we don't even do it right
>>6178464
http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/29825/choc+coconut+slice
DOOO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
>>6178464
Chop up the spam, cook it with the baked beans and add some diced tomatoes halfway through, should be pretty decent (disclaimer: I have never had spam but I assume it is basically processed meat but more processed)
https://clyp.it/2ttncbxr
On a scale of 1 to Caitlyn Jenner, how bad am I?
>>6178434
>>6178428
sorry, it's easy to miss short posts.
I'm sure you notice that your voice isn't steady. Spend time practicing on your own, if you wait for a thread to bring it up you'll never get anywhere.
Search for a comfortable zone. It's better to have a middle ground for a while than trying to jump to the perfect pitch from the start. Slowly go higher and higher until you reach the highest you can get while still being comfortable to talk for a while.
>>6178479
>spam
i find it terrible personally
some people love it
>>6178466
yeah I guess I really do need speech therapy
I wish I had the money ;-;
damnit my cabinet sucks
>>6178406
>and let's say your stitches rip
>so what ?
>you are in a fucking hospital
Kek I guess that's true, but it might fuck with the results. I mean, I've never been in any invasive surgeries before, only some dental ones and boy did they fuck those up even though I had the hands of 2 people in my mouth the whole time.
>>6178419
>just compress your larynx as if you were sending the sound backwards to get your highest natural tone
Like yeah, I can get to like comfortably high and feel natural with larynx pulled backwards, result is:
https://clyp.it/2hdpnnqe
So what do I do with that voice? How to change the resonance to feminine from hon and make it not sound fake/falsetto whatever? Feels like we've ended up in a loop with this
>because that sounds correct in your head.
Nothing sounds correct anymore desu. I never have used my voice much post puberty being a loner neet for like the past 6 years so I don't exactly have much practice with it either. I've spoken more with this honsound than with the normal male one by now probably, but I know this one sounds fake so ;/
>>6178432
I love that episode lol
>>6178438
falsetto is a quick jump from normal to as close as your cords can get. Practice as if you were singing, slowly go up and find your comfort points. A voice that dosen't even last an hour is the same as having no voice.
>>6178440
(You)
what's new?
I'm scared I'm never going to get ANY of the things I want out of life because I'm fundamentally weaker and less able than a lot of people
I would have died at birth if not for modern medical science; natural selection would have picked me off straight away if not for that. a lot of the time it feels like I wasn't supposed to survive and me living is all a terrible mistake.
anyone else know this feel? how do you cope??
>>6178484
Thank you for the advice :)
The pitch isn't so much of an issue for me (I'm a singer with a pretty wide range; A2-F#5), but finding a way to confine it to F3-C4 without chest resonance is the hard bit.
Thank you again :)
>>6178430
It was like a sudden realization of, "ugh, holy shit, I'm a guy, not a girl, and I want to die"
I suck at painting my nails tbqh
>>6178489
>brookshire's
Well I guess that narrows down where you're from lol
>>6178496
I don't suppose you have any tips for reducing the resonance? That's the most difficult thing to me.
Why. WHY everytime I try to fucking sleep. My nightmares are becoming more and more intense and I get more and more dreams about being a Girl. About being held, about being called a she. About transitioning completely.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
>>6178444
stop being a trope.
alternatively, learn to be a kuudere like all the cool girls.
>>6178464
you can't have all your food in cans, most of the nutritional value is killed when pasteurized.
are vegetables an expensive luxury where you live?
>>6178487
it's funny that even in most countries where healthcare covers almost everything, speech therapy isn't included. it might part of their master plan.
Are you sure it's not part of your basic plan? When I was little I had half a dozen bad consonants and the health care provider took care of the few visits I needed.
>>6178505
>still better than a dick
Yeaahhh I'm not so sure about that. I need to look more into how the below average result is, most stories I can hear here are the ones that didn't have any fuckups.
>>6178507
stop repression
WHITE SUICIDE
IS A RADICAL ACT.
>>6178508
I'm from the UK
>>6178489
Can confirm
>>6178472
We haven't been doing it right for like forty years. Maybe more cause I don't know the whole thing.
>>6178493
I love them all!!!!!
>>6178508
>When I was little I had half a dozen bad consonants and the health care provider took care of the few visits I needed.
My speech therapist as a kid was awful, probably because she had two kids at once, one was learning one wasn't and she only focused on the one that was (not me). I never learned the finnish R properly but thank god it's not needed in english.
>>6178512
ur a radical act
>>6178509
idk phien had problems maybe talk to her
>>6178518
i'm not sure of how long we've been celebrating halloween like we do but it's terribly wrong
Can the next thread be falsetto edition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xTM4-Ps3w4
>>6178479
I think cooking spam is a bad idea, you just add a bit of it at the end and mix it with everything.
>>6178481
forced falsetto/10
you have to make a tone as if you were singing, not go as high as you physically can. you can't get used to it, you just destroy your cords for a short while.
>>6178499
I'm sorry if I didn't give more specific advice, I'm starting to turn on auto pilot for this things.
Have you tried the vocalization guide in the OP (or trans help general, I don't remember which had the really good one). It really helps when you sort of have the pitch but it sounds as a male singing instead of having a feminin vibration.
>>6178227
https://clyp.it/j4jyzufr
Here's a long reading as promised. I don't think it's very good., I'd love to hear what I should work on,
Well
I think I'm gonna close /mtfg/ for now.
I'll probably be back in a week, maybe a little more, maybe a little less, we'll see.
Skype is depressed1penguin and you can find my steam at /id/fly_away_now
Idk if anyone actually cares but maybe someone does. I'm probably going to spend a day or two offline on those, so it'll be a while before I accept any invites.
Thank you all for being a lot of fun lately and supporting me so much. I might drop by tomorrow to show off whatever is done to my hair, if that actually happens. Never know with my mom.
Anyway, I'll be online on that contact stuff until I go to bed tonight, feel free to say hey.
Stay beautiful everyone and treat each other well, you're gonna make it one day. <3
>>6178532
Phienchan is the one who posts anime nazi girls
>>6178531
i care
>>6178533
Oh, right, didn't recognize without the full name :I
>>6178525
Idk at least a hundred years then some. People used to make scary fucking costumes. Look up old Halloween costumes like from the 30s and stuff.
I think I made a huge mistake.
I forgot anon is master detective and dissects every image to it's last bit. I'm sorry, but since I'm not officially out I'm a little uncomfortable with being anal(ha ha)yzed with anon's attention to detail.
>>6178442
You're the bee's knees Quid.
>>6178448
I wasn't implying me, I mean, um yeah, like a friend I have who likes to drink and watch Sienfeld. Um, is there something you'd like to know about me, though?
>>6178468
Oh sorry, I just became sort of paranoid. I don't know..I guess, I'd still be me,except I'd have I'd be a girl. I don't see the female me as being separate from who I am. I guess I'd wear cuter clothing, dance more, and still be me, a happier version of me.
>>6178457
Jajajaja! La blanquita :p
Nunca oí de esa serie, asumo que es el enlace que compartiste, ahora la reviso :).
>>6178489
that's not healthy.
the moonshine is the only thing I'd happily include in my diet from all of that.
>>6178491
that does sound a bit more natural, I don't know if it's late at night or something where you are but practicing at such a low volume doesn't really show much. if you can practice longer stretches (like a few pages from a book) at a normal volume, something that would be heard in the street.
the biggest part is finding what sounds natural to you.
>>6178518
Me too lol it's honestly a perfect show
>>6178531
Stay safe!! Hope you have good times. Its
>>6178534
It's still a little bit falsetto.
>>6178489
Muh oatz!
>>6178528
https://clyp.it/xxg3wtjx
Any improvement? Obviously pitch is a lot wonkier but my mind was on the tone.
Thank you for your advice regardless of how bad I sound, anon! Very helpful to me :)
>>6178542
Wubbalubbadubdub!
>>6178540
sure, like what's your skype
>tfw terrified of everything
people joke about autism a lot but I think the biggest thing people forget about it is how it feels to actually have it
my primary emotion is fear
>>6178558
i wish i had autism
>>6178541
It's early morning and my folks just woke up are in the next room so I had to keep it low. I'm not sure how much more voice I can put into it, I've never really spoken with a voice that's too audible in a public place, the strength practices in the OP have been helping a bit maybe but it's kinda hard and hurts to push too loud
>the biggest part is finding what sounds natural to you.
I thought it was about what sounds like a female voice. If it wasn't I probably wouldn't be practicing. I really want to get this right too as it's kind of a big part about passing irl and most definitely don't want to be stuck with this fake-ass hon sound :s
reminder to flag this for hate speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqist33vbkA
I'm never gonna reach the end of the thread ;__;
>>6178496
I've been eating a pasta+lentis+cheese spanish omelette that got really out of hand in size, it's not really a healthy food.
>>6178497
being physically weaker doesn't mean having a complete bad set of genes, it's just a tiny part that no longer matters. you have to find strengths and things you're willing to dedicate hours of every day to practice.
>>6178502
painting nails suck. if you do it perfectly it adds a tiny level of femm, but everything below that screams teenage girl.
>>6178507
stop repressing, fix your sleep hours to standard times, don't eat before going to bed.
>>6178520
I remember having a ton of problems with "sh" sounds. I still suck at them because of the pronunciation in my part of the country, so when I say John and Sean it sounds identical.
>>6178513
I really don't know how things work there. Are you going to invite me and show me around town or something?
>>6178532
>Is there any fix? I'm starting to think I've busted mine
yeah, just let them rest before straining them again, suck on propolis if you can stand the flavor or eat honey. then start looking for a natural tone.
I'm hungry...
Katanon?
I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WHICH BITS OF ME SHOULD I GET PIERCED?
>>6178570
wait am I katanon?
that's kind of like my steam name
>>6178571
Tongue is a favorite of mine so is snake bites. Septum piercings can look good depending on your face structure
>>6178550
it's still not quite there. You may want to work from scratch, since you still sound like you're not in a natural vocal resonance.
>>6178571
SHOULD I GET A LIP PIERCING OR SHOULD I JUST WEAR A FAKE ONE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SEEMS TO DO
DO THEY HURT????????????
>>6178556
I do have Skype, but I don't know what's my username! What's yours?
>>6178576
I dunno, do you unsheath katana?
>>6178579
I have no idea what a natural vocal resonance is. My normal voice is a hodgepodge of singing techniques and copied mannerisms.
Would you happen to have any examples of what you're talking about?
Any of you butts who have neeners added, talk to her and keep her company this week as much as you can
Her skype is kil and im out of town for 10 days
>>6178568
>being physically weaker doesn't mean having a complete bad set of genes, it's just a tiny part that no longer matters. you have to find strengths and things you're willing to dedicate hours of every day to practice.
yeah but I don't just mean physically weaker, I seem to lack basic cognitive abilities that others can exercise on a whim. like further up in the thread they're talking about "oh you need to grow a thicker skin and not care so much about being judged". but HOW? I saw a think in the news today about how making yourself feel self-forgivness and turning away from guilt decreases the frequency of depressive episodes. but HOW? lots of people seem to be able to just choose what connections their brains make or the way they feel about something at will and I don't understand it. how do you just "make yourself" not care about something? surely it's involuntary? things like this keep coming up in conversations about all sorts of different topics and I feel like I'm missing some kind of vital brain mechanism that lets people develop and grow- which from what I understand about my issues, is probably exactly the case. and that's without even getting into stuff like concentration and being able to take in information by reading it.
the only things I'm good at are resource-intensive and creative hobbies that take a lot of time that just isn't available to most working adults, namely writing, and writing music. things that people do for fun, not for sustenance. I barely function in everyday life, let alone studies or work. I just feel so defective and hopeless.
>>6178582
OtisthejanitorW
I usually text people on steam but you can add me and we can be friends and stuff
>>6178571
clit hood
obviously
>>6178368
googling the tail details taught me that there is a NATO 'Tiger' meet. neat.
>>6178583
nope false alarm
>>6178589
not posting in that edition someone make a proper one
>>6178529
I personally like it. I don't know if the pitch matches you appearance and that's a big part of having the right sound, but you can move around that tone and still sound female and that's huge.
Do you feel confortable with it? Do you see yourself talking like that for hours?
>>6178533
>Phienchan is the one who posts anime nazi girls
it sounds so wrong as soon as you imagine that outside of 4chan, still part of her silent harem though.
>>6178534
https://clyp.it/2ttncbxr
you're not gonna escape the slow anon just deleting your post.
It sounds forced, too acute to be real. Imagine it more like singing than reaching for it.
>>6178540
I was actually quite mocked by classmates and even teachers for being so white in a mostly brown province.
I'm not loving that yourube series but it's interesting to see real life trans from our continent from time to time.
>>6178563
feminine but natural, if you produce a voice that sounds as if it belonged to someone else it won't work.
I'm gonna go to bed in the next hour tops, I don't think I'll be here when you have more free space to speak out loud. But make sure to train. Check the soundwave in the recording, it shouldn't be that flat. If your voice sounds perfect but it can only be heard from a very close distance then it doesn't work. It's a voice, it's meant to be heard.
>>6178558
>my primary emotion is fear
that sounds more like anxiety depressive, quoting a paragraph fron John Dolan
>Some of us, including me, have a brain chemistry that comes straight outta Ouldivai Gorge. I’m an anxiety depressive. I jump higher and faster than anyone at any sudden noise; I can hear a fight brewing in an apparently friendly conversation minutes before it starts; “This was adaptive once.” That saying applies very well to the brain chemistry of an anxiety depressive.
>>6178586
natural just means that it feels right and you can keep it all the time you want, don't over think it.
>>6178629
oddly enough this one is completely comfortable and repeatable for me
https://clyp.it/oikfvsz2
It just sounds... Weird. Maybe it'll get better over time? This is only the first time I've actually sat down to work on it or even attempted it for more than a minute.
>>6178659
I am a pretty hopeless stoner so perhaps the years of smoke and coughing have ruined my voice, not to mention screaming/singing.
