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MtF, 21 y/o
I'm on 200mg spiro and 4mg estradiol, 2months in. Here's all the changes I can report:
- Some muscle loss but not much, lost about 8 pounds of fat and probably some muscle. I would say I have the build of a mid-transition FtM who lifts at this point.
- Occasionally skin will be softer and veins on hands will disappear, only when I'm completely relaxed though
- Feel much less on edge, no trouble falling asleep.
- Much lower energy. Physical activity exhausts me a lot faster.
- Mood Swings, will become depressed randomly, then back to normal, then laughing uncontrollably at the stupidest joke, then normal.
- Recently, drier skin, esp. on my face and hands. Chapped lips too.
Is this normal? Or should I be seeing more changes?
Also what would be the benefits of adding finasteride? Would there be any benefits to using name-brand drugs as opposed to generics?
I've heard goserelin is the best AA, how much does it cost?

>>6051353
As far as the drier skin & chapped lips go, how much water do you drink? My, albeit limited, understanding is that Spiro dehydrates you, so you should be drinking lots of water if you aren't already. I mean like 2 liters at the minimum every day. Diuretics like black tea and coffee don't count and should possibly be counteracted with drinking even more water throughout the day. Aside from that, I dunno. I only started E a week ago myself.

>>6050914
Injections really are rather straighforward. I would hazard a guess that doing injections wrong is not your problem.

So I have a shitty hairline that's pretty male pattern, but I already have long hair. I've so far been hiding my hair line by wearing hats, but I started Fin ~a month ago. Should I just let my hair keep growing, or, assuming Finasteride starts kicking in a couple months from now, get my hair cut in two months time so that it all grows out somewhat evenly? I sure as shit ain't shaving my head though.

>>6051400
Play it by ear, anon. See how it looks when things are a-changing and make a harcut decision then. Don't worry so much about ugly duckling phases.

So I'm definitely growing boobs. Is that weird at 2months? Do I have undiagnosed gyno?
I honestly didn't expect this to happen before I lost muscle...

Why are they freaking me out so much? I kind of want them, but I also don't?
It's fucking weird, they're just these little sacs that come out of my giant pectoral muscles. Will this get better or am I not really trans?

>>6051636
Maybe your genes just put you ahead of the curve somehow in terms of the mtf breast growth time frame. As for why they're freaking you out, that's what you need to figure out. Maybe because you still look like a man in most other aspects? That would probably get to me since I don't like seeing myself, as I am now, in women's clothing.

>>6051655
I don't know, it's like when my dysphoria is at it's worst I really want nothing more than to be a cis girl. I want the soft body and the boobs and everything and I hate my facial hair and body hair.

Then when it seems like I'm getting more feminine from the hormones I get all freaked out and scared.

>>6051696
Oh. I wish I could speak from experience, but it seems like what you're feeling is probably pretty normal for trans people. Seems like I've seen a lot of people feeling that way over the course of my stay on this board. I could be way wrong though. Best to let someone who actually knows what they're talking about help you out or talk to a therapist.

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How difficult is doing DIY injections? I've been on spiro and estradiol for over a year and i'm really worried that it's not doing the job. I know blood tests are the real answer, but I'm not in a position to do that right now.

>>6051400
My dermatologist has me on 10,000 biotin twice daily and rogaine twice daily in addition to 1mg finasteride. Try that?

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Reeeeeeeeeeee. How long until terminal body hair starts thinning out? I know the timeline says onset is around 6months but at what rate do you start losing it after that? I have the physique of a thin cylinder of cookie dough rolled across a busy barber shop floor. I'm getting laser for face, and I'm thinking of getting it for full thighs, butt & legs but that would be like $500 every 4 weeks. Why do genetics hate me?

>>6051353
shilling for my questions again.

>>6051353
>- Some muscle loss but not much, lost about 8 pounds of fat and probably some muscle. I would say I have the build of a mid-transition FtM who lifts at this point.
I've heard that muscle mass reduction really starts to hit a few more months in. Don't know how true that is. I'm only 1 month in.
>- Occasionally skin will be softer and veins on hands will disappear, only when I'm completely relaxed though
Normal. Girls skin is thinner than guys skin.
>- Feel much less on edge, no trouble falling asleep.
Me too. This is great, and I sleep just as much as I need to. No depressing oversleeping.
>- Much lower energy. Physical activity exhausts me a lot faster.
This. Walking to work and up the stairs is a chore.
>- Mood Swings, will become depressed randomly, then back to normal, then laughing uncontrollably at the stupidest joke, then normal.
I've gotten that too. Makes my friends worried when I get depressed.
>- Recently, drier skin, esp. on my face and hands. Chapped lips too.
Drink a lot more water. I drink around a bottle of water an hour, and it still doesn't feel like enough. Make sure you moisturize your hands and face.
>Is this normal? Or should I be seeing more changes?
It seems normal. I'm 18 and I've gotten all of these things.
>Also what would be the benefits of adding finasteride? Would there be any benefits to using name-brand drugs as opposed to generics?
Finasteride blocks DHT which is what causes male pattern baldness. I don't know of any benifits to using name brands. Ask your doctor.
>I've heard goserelin is the best AA, how much does it cost?
Never heard of it.

>>6051935
groupon

>>6052504
THanks. Does Spiro block DHT too or nah?

>>6052884
No, just T.

>>6051935
invest in a home laser tool imo

whats the standard dose for injections? how do they change after an orchiectomy/srs?

Im a cis male but want to be trans. Pretending to be a girl online just doesn't get me as excited as it used to. How can i be a girl irl?

>>6053983
just be trans, all it is is a choice, weigh your current happiness with male related things and compare them to being female in your view, if you personally prefer the female experience variation over male then go for it, just know it is obviously a bit life altering so be careful in choosing,,,

>>6053996
Being trans is a choice?

>>6053983
>>6053996
This is why we can't have nice things.

How to hide MtF boobage while living with Bible thumping family? I'd use a binder but I hear they mess them up.

>>6054095
I use this, its not very tight at all so I don't think anything would be getting messed up, but it makes a nice difference.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VAWK3GI?psc=1&

>want to transition
>don't want to die alone
fuck

>>6054095
>>6054106
Underworks really does the job, but it's not mild on the tissue at length. gc2b is a good choice if you're gonna be wearing a binder every day. There are cheapo ones on ebay with adequate squeeze, but they're mostly tiny faab Asian sizes.

Still I recommend freeing the tiddies and wearing binders as little as possible.

>>6054106
Oh I glossed over that you said it wasn't tight at all. Of course, how taut it fits depends on sizing compared to your body. But underworks does have a particular reputation for being tight among people I know. Then again, they probably have more chest to squash than your average growing mtf.

>>6054095
Tight sports bra with a loose shirt. Layers and hoodies, if the weather allows, work wonders. Don't bind on a regular basis unless you want saggy tits.

>>6054181
Yep. Underworks anon here, I only wear it at work which is for about 7 hours a day. Never any other time because around the house I can always wear a hoodie to hide anything

>>6053408
I've looked at them, but there seems to be a lot of mixed reviews. They don't seem to work if your hair is thick and the root is deep under the skin. They are pretty expensive so I'm not sure if I want to risk it for 0 results. It would also take a fair amount of time to tell if it is working, which is time I could have spent effectively removing hair. I at least know the laser place I go to for my face works.

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I'm in a bit of a dilemma, and nobody irl has actually given me actual advice, so I guess I'll ask here: I'm MtF, 1 month HRT, I'm about to graduate high school, and I have two choices, go to one of the best universities in my country, in a more or less accepting city, or go to a more accepting place to a community college, to try and see if I can get residency? So far my only objective is to get as far away from the shithole I live in, but I'm really torn about this.

>>6051636
When you are so used to your body being a certain way and it suddenly changes it can feel pretty weird and unpleasant because it gives you a bit of a shock (from my experience with SRS) but that tends to be an initial thing that fades really quickly and then it feels right .. BUT if the feelings persist then you have a problem and should really consider reevaluating what you are doing

who /cant cum anymore/ here?

>>6054939
Depends on exactly what you could face at less-accepting city, but in general I would say have ambition and get the best education you can achieve.

Like, it will influence your entire life, not only the time you're there. Best scenario, you have top education, are insta-passable and life is perfect. Medium scenario, your time at this uni is somewhat shitty 'cause of your transition, but you have good qualifications and life is good afterward. And if it gets to the worst case scenario, you end up an unpassable hon, people with higher education tends to be less blantant in their discrimination; and with enough talent/work you could make yourself necessary and thus have a least a facade of respect. (Which is hella better than what you would get without)

So, unless you'll be murdered/suicide/have schooling severely disrupted by being trans, go for the best uni.

Switching from spiro to cypro. Currently on 100mg/day, do I need to wean off or can I jump straight to a 50mg dose of cypro in lieu of my regular spiro one?

Anybody on Bicalutamide? What is your dosage?

I'm seeing my doctor today. I want them to put me on this medication for a few weeks. Assuming they know nothing of this, I need to come prepared with as much information as possible.

>>6055353
why did you switch?

>>6055501
Spiro lowers my blood pressure too much.

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Is apathy a manifestation of dysphoria? I can't shake it off, and I'm really trying to fel something, but unless I'm high or drunk, I can't. Does HRT cure it? Or transtitioning? Or what?

>>6055578
That's something you need to talk to a therapist about. It may be related to dysphoria, it may not. Nobody can really tell you that except you, and if you don't know then you need to seek professional help.

if i dont like the effects of hrt on me can i just put it off? or will it do a serious damage to my body

>>6054162

>decide not to transition
>die alone anyway due to your own envy, self-hatred, sadness, and frustration getting in the way of every one of your relationships

>>6054162
>>6056944
Both of these. Each option we have is some variation of shit.


>>6056859
Put it off as in stop taking the hormones and stuff? Yeah. Depending on how long you've been on it you might have lasting effects, but aside from the sterility in MtFs, I can't think of any lasting damage the drugs do to the body outside of side effects (like drinking while on mones and fucking up your liver or something).

>>6055578
It can be. It is for me. It's difficult to feel fulfilled when something as fundamental as your sex is completely wrong (as well as everything else that goes with that).

Neither HRT nor transitioning "cure" anything; they address some of the problems which might cause you dysphoria (your body, the way people think of you and treat you, whatever poorly understood psychological effect sex hormones have on your mental state, etc.), allowing you to feel better. They don't make you feel better in themselves.

If you're trans then addressing the problems will probably make you feel better, but there can be a lot of reasons to feel bad which aren't so simple. For many people, things like internalised transphobia or feelings of inadequacy as a member of your gender aren't the kind of things which will just go away by themselves, without you making at least some effort to contemplate and overcome them.

For those who are self medicating, did you get your hormone levels tested before you started or did you just wing it and hope for the best?

>>6058150
Just winging it for now, but I'm planning on going legit sometime soon. I'm only several weeks in.

>>6058150
Didn't get them tested before starting, although I should probably get them tested now. Blood work is expensive :\

so is this basically tranny general but without tripfags?

because I kind of want that

>>6058895
Kinda, yeah. Alot of questions and answers here, much less saying goodnight and what anime to watch

>>6058895
Femgen is the same way.

>>6059119
A little bit but with more denial.
>someone in femgen was asking about getting an orchiectomy earlier
For what it's worth I think a fair amount of femgen is cis though.

I don't want to be trans.
Why can't I just be a normal person and get on with my life?
I want kids someday. My kids. I want a gf to cuddle, I want what stereotypical white dudes want. Why can't I just be content with who I am?

>>6059129
I was going to mention the same thing. What's worse is their denial makes them look like fetishists instead.

>>6059142
Because brains are weird

>>6049720

First time ever on the internet about this. I haven't cried in a full decade until tonight.

I encrypt my thoughts from myself same way I encrypt hard-drives. I live in fictions in my head while really I'm just laying on the bathroom floor being a junky.

So now at age 24 my hormones are REALLY starting to kick on but my sex drive doesn't match. UGH NO MORE HAIR!!! I'm probably a bit of a hermaphrodite, I've always known and acted like a little emo girl my entire life so now that the reality is setting in that all these years, despite only liking chicks sexually, I AM FUCKING STUCK IN THIS AWFUL BODY. Physically, I look younger than my 21 year old brother. Less hair, thankfully...for now.


For 420 I went through the park and literally just started talking to 2 females about my age. It was an absolute crash and burn train wreck, but it was all vividly honest and self reflective.

At this point, I have no other ego to hide behind but my boy name and clothes even if i talk honestly.

I wish I was as brave as 4 years old wearing girls shoes and nail polish.

I'm 24 and I feel 16 still. I never grew up. I couldn't where I lived. I wasn't allowed to.


>be secret tranny
>not even realize because avoidant personality disorder
>no supportive friends or family or society whatsoever (or maybe just in my autistic head)
>TFW when feels like no future because I cut everything (my art, music, friends, drugs, happiness, sex) away from myself trying to isolate the problem. Started at age 13. Dropped soccer. By 17, rock climbing, art, friendship.
>TFW Never picked up the REALLY important stuff (instrument, camera, equipment for outdoor stuff)
>TFW lost touch with soul and feel like a hurricane
TL:DR

Where the fuck do I even move to survive a year until I can start escaping this decaying creature??? I can hardly get off the bathroom floor and force feed myself. Let alone get a job and stop being a junky. LIVING AT HOME LIKE AN AUTISTIC DISABLED KID.

Question 1: I'm American. If I go to Suporn for SRS, is there any way I can get my insurance to cover the surgery? Or would it not because it's outside of the country?

Question 2: What are Marci Bowers vaginas like? Are they sensate? Can they self-lubricate? Are there any advantages to going to Thailand instead of just going to California?

asking this for like the 40th time. please help me :(

i am forced to see a new physician for insurance reasons. if i go to a new GP and tell them to email my old one for my HRT doses, what are the chances the new GP will comply with that without having dealt with trans patients before? my new insurance provider apparently has no GPs that work with trans patients

>>6060603
If your old GP deemed HRT medically necessary for you, your new one would be legally obligated to comply.

>>6060603
Ask your old place if they can email you records of your medical history with them.

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So my hairline is definitely receding.
I'll post a pic later, but it's about at picrelated. Just enough that I'm certain it's not just a widow's peak.
I'm on 200mg spiro and 4mg e.
Is that enough to keep it from continuing to recede? Or will I need something else?
I've heard about finasteride, but my doctor is strongly against it. She says there's no data on its safety and won't perscribe it to me.

Questioning mtf here.

How did you know that you were trans?

I mean looking back on my life I showed a lot of signs like:

>Always wore this purple dress when I played house and shit in school when I was like 3 or 4

>favourite colour was pink or purple

>favourite scooby doo character was Daphne

>Asked for girl toys for christmas sometimes

>didn't like sports

>Picked the girl character most of the time in vidya

>Favourite Zack and Cdoy character was London

>Favourite High School Musical character was the girl that I can't remem

>More comfortable arounber the name of

>was into high school musical

>Started getting into cross dressing around 15, started questioning around that age too (18 currently)

>Feel intimidated around other men unless they're close friends

>Have a ech relationship with my dad

I mean, even with all these signs I'm still unsure. I need a push in the right direction

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Am I right in feeling a bit guilty for my parents? I mean, they have been accepting, but I still feel like I've let them down, I've asked them how much of a disgrace I am half-jokingly and they were very quick to say I wasn't, but it's just that I feel bad whenever they talk about my brother having kids or being successful, when I'm sterilizing myself on purpose and probably will have to deal with a lot of shit to be anywhere as close to successful. I've been liking HRT so far and everything but I can't ignore the guilt.

>>6061032
Alas, you must make a leap of faith eventually. If the evidence is overwhelming that you're trans, and you're 1% unsure, you just have to take that as close enough.

There's no way to be 100% sure.

>>6061032
How much does the idea of going bald bother you? Growing a few inches taller, getting real muscular and hairy?

What about getting smaller? Having softer skin, losing all your muscles, gaining fat underneath your skin, and - most importantly - growing breasts?

I believe the question for you shouldn't be am I trans or not, it should be, do I want hormones or not?

>>6061051
You are who you are. You didn't choose to be like this and you are not responsible for the way your parents feel.

>>6055353
Bumping this.

>>6059300

first, slow down. you do not want to rush this. you need to find some kind of iob first, safeway or anything honestly

then see a therapist/doc and with your money/benefits get the treatment you need. hormones and hair removal will take a while, but hormones can be pretty cheap...that way you can start to save up for a place of your own

its going to be hard anon but its worth it. its worth it to start valuing your own life again

>>6061051
You'd have to deal with a lot more shit if you didn't transition (which will also be worse for your parents). It's not like you can cure being trans or effectively treat it any other way than what you're doing.

>>6061155
I am not making excuses to avoid it, but if anyone has any advice on how to actually do this I am all ears. I feel so isolated and trapped in my own head I honestly have a difficult time interfacing with reality. I am smart enough to get a job, but I don't feel stable. I feel like if i had to work at BoxCorp.Mart I would hang myself or just wallow around crying like a despondent zombie.

I miss feeling free. The more I read about this trans stuff the more I feel terrible for avoiding it my entire ENTIRE life. I wish I had started HRT at 16 when I first started joking about being "half girl".

I have a gender therapist that I started seeing before the walls came down in my brain and the whole "no you're just gender confused you fag, you're literally a woman trapped in your body" realization. He's a total quack and a waste of my time, so today is my last session. I'm switching over to a real therapist who can actually help me instead of patronize me with pep talks and mood charts. I need to address my eating and drug problem too.

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>>6061550

switching to a real therapist sounds like a good first step. once you can get your head straight enough for a job and you're making money, stuff will start to fall into place. even working shit jobs becomes bearable because you're getting closer to eventually passing

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I'm trying to change my name in the state of New Jersey and I have all the papers filled out except for the gendered parts. I'm also seeking to update my gender markers for social security and dmv but I have not yet. Am I supposed to fill in my birth gender on the name change forms or will this screw something up in the future? They take the form of "____________ would blah blah blah change [ ]his [ ]her name to __________" so it seems kind of informal. I'm confused as to where the state keeps track of your gender in general.

>>6058150

please just pay for a blood test

people have gotten seriously ill self medding. not something you want to fuck with

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Be honest with me here: is there a legit way to know if a person is trans or not? I've been asking it about myself for a long time now and would like some concrete answers. Luckily I've been making progress of late, but it's slow-going and don't want to take things faster than necessary.

Bit about myself:
>Fairly effeminate as a kid, but not overtly so
>Most of the friends I kept around were girls, found it easier to get along with my sisters and my mother over my brothers and my father
>Wanted to dress as a monarch butterfly for Halloween at age 6, Mom agreed and made me one which I apparently liked
>Remember playing with rags as though they were tampons as early as age 7
>Really into arts and music, hated sports
>Interests slowly got more masculine in time, took up interests in ships, cars and other machinery
>tl;dr to high school
>Age 14, realize I might be bisexual
>Age 15, fall in love with gay best friend, nothing comes of it but we remain close friends to this day
>Puberty continues, lrn2p0rn much later than many of my friends
>Develop depression issues through high school, though can't fully explain why. Think it's just due to some stuff from my upbringing
>Age 16 try to talk to therapists, last like three or four visits before I call it off. Want to tell them I'm bi but can't because of repressive Christian upbringing
>Age 17 start watching lgbt YouTubers including ZinniaJones, can't explain why but I was drawn to her
>Start watching more lgbt movies and shows, depression gets worse, sexual orientation begins interfering with my relationships
>Also start shaving my legs about this time, tell no one
>Finally tell Mom I'm bi that Christmas, she kind of suspected already, don't tell Dad because he was out of the picture by now
>Age 18, join my school's GSA and the school's most prominent lesbian becomes a good friend of mine
>Age 19, move in with my love interest from earlier, doesn't work out and depression gets worse

Cont.

>>6051696
this is what I'm experiencing too but I only just started.

>>6063192
>is there a legit way to know if a person is trans or not?

According to a member of the board committee at my local trans support group: NO

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>>6063192
>Age 20, move in with another side of my family and try to prove I can be a good man by joining the Navy
>Doesn't work, constantly feel like an effeminate little bitch
>Try some other avenues, none of them work, sink deeper into depression than ever, constantly want to kill self
>Eventually get a serious infection that takes twenty pounds off of me in only a month's time
>Weaker than I have been in years, mind is all sorts of messed up
>Move back in with my parents at age 21
>Try to gain my weight and my life back, but it's gone
>Start having bizarre thoughts, mind keeps telling me I'm better off in a feminine manner
>Leg shaving develops into full body shaving, pace picks up from every few months to once a week or more
>Go back through lgbt stuff looking for answers, realize I might not be *just* bi
>Start having nightmares over it, artwork becomes attuned toward that
>Tell Mom that I might be experiencing gender dysphoria as a result of the infection, she's again sympathetic
>Try once more to prove I'm a man by going to a trade school for an old interest of mine
>Realize I'm outmatched, everyone else is bigger, stronger, and better at the job than I am
>Start singing in an octave higher than usual to cope with depression and repression
>Many of the songs I covered were female-led pieces, won't specify which ones
>Graduate trade school at the top of my class, but it means nothing because I was deeply unhappy
>Start wearing makeup when I'm alone
>Get a new job in a new place in a field I'm much better at, depression goes away
>Feel desire to push myself
>Start wearing makeup in public, even post pic on Facebook to see if people notice
>They do, and much of the reaction has been positive even without an explanation
>Dysphoria still around though, gone from shaving every few weeks to every day
>Start wearing thin layers of makeup at work to see if anyone notices, don't want to see my own facial hair

Cont.

>>6059300
same age, similar story here, went to a therapist and now I'm on day 2 hrt. You can only move forward but don't try to rush or your going to give yourself a panic attack. Take this time to breath and for deep reflection.

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>>6063232
>Now age 22, start collecting any free womens' clothing I can get
>Crossdress in my alone time, it's picking up frequency
>Now trying to keep myself as cleanly shaved and feminine as possible nearly exclusively
>Hate the fact that I'm starting to grow out as a "man"
>Then one night, I was dolling myself up when some friends from work decide to pay me a last-minute visit
>Finish the final touches on eyeliner and mascara just as they call, they're there five minutes later, no time to wash it off
>They take me to a party, everyone sees me in full fashion complete with a tunic
>Should be mortified, but I'm not
>It actually felt really good, tell some of them about my gender identity issues later that night
>They accept it
>Finally feeling good about myself, but realize I need help
>Book a doctor's appointment for next month to deal with "behavioral health"
>Hoping to see a therapist and actually explain myself right this time
>Bought some cheap estrogen and anti-androgen pills online in the meantime, took the first pill tonight but not going to start a full regime until I talk to a doctor

So give it to me straight. Is this what transgenderism is, or am I just really, really gay? I hate the fact that I'm a guy and I've been willing to go this far to change that fact even before starting HRT or anything else. I even asked my co-workers to go with a more gender-ambiguous version of my name and they agreed. What the fuck am I, /lgbt/?

Hello?


Is this Trump Help General?

Anybody have any clue how the fuck I get mones in Canada? And no, therapists and IC are not options.

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>>6063192
>>6063232
>>6063256
Just going to cherry-pick a few points here.
>Mind keeps telling me I'm better off in a feminine manner.
>Now trying to keep myself as cleanly shaved and feminine as possible nearly exclusively.
>Hate the fact that I'm starting to grow out as a "man".
>Everyone sees me in full fashion...It actually felt really good.

I'mma level with you. You sound pretty darn trans. I can relate to a number of things that you mentioned, and I'm just in a denial-ish phase while I wait to give hormones a shot. Unless the thought of becoming a girl repulses you as much as being a guy does, I'd say you at least owe it to yourself to give it a shot.

>I hate the fact that I'm a guy and I've been willing to go this far to change that fact even before starting HRT or anything else.

Don't, lol. You have to start somewhere. I wear mascara and eyebrow liner pretty much every day - sometimes a girly necklace as well. People don't comment, but it makes me feel pretty, which is the important thing. :3

So I know this is a long shot but:

Anybody in Sydney had experience with Dr Elizabeth Riley? She seems to deal with trans kids and sort of the traditional tru trans narrative mostly, and well I'm not really either :/

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>>6063256

there is no 100% way to be sure

but you absolutely sound trans to me. if you still have doubts go talk to a therapist with experience on the subject, but if you've come this far already, i think you know the truth. you're just looking for validation because transitioning seems scary as fuck

>>6063342
What province? I think the usual way is to talk to a therapist and get a letter recommending you to start HRT.

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>>6063256
I'm a repressed and avoidant
and terribly regretful 24 hermaphrodite. I have a penis and my growth for a very long time has been stunted. I look 19 but my hormones (testosterone) is kicking on now for real and it's making everything the worst thing ever. It's tearing my soul apart. It's all wrong...
.. This is all like flooding out of me at once realizing or admitting (I didn't grow up with support) this was the case that hermaphrodite insides are the issue. My endocrine system for one has always been fucked up.

So does anyone know like what the fuck the first step to finding someone to not BULLSHIT me about my gender? This isn't a sex or fetish thing like the counselor is trained in its a medical thing. it's a fucking crisis where my body is rejecting itself and wants to die and I can't eat food etc etc... It's been like flying a plane off course. I just got back in control, but I threw my whole life off... Fuck...

So if I wanted to explore HRT what and where do I look like what type of support is out there. I assume NYC (3 hours by car) is my best bet? I base that on no science...

I'm just lost. A fucking priest can't save me hahaha talking to a counselor is just the same about my gender. No problems or confusion. Just a 70% female with a cock that only half works.

Fml. It takes 3 months to grow "a week" of beard.

Kind of want to know what you guys have to say too, although you're all probably in that thread at some point.
What are some mental changes that you've experienced on HRT?

My prescription's not going to be ready until saturday and I don't have anything for friday. Now I want to cry. Missing one day won't be bad right? I'm tearing up as I'm writing this post.

>>6064216
You'll burst into flames for sure. Worse, you'll turn into a pumpkin at midnight!

>>6064220
Thanks anon, that cheered me up a little.

>>6058150
I got my prescription script yesterday (never did diy because Canada). They did a blood test, but it was for kiney and liver function. Hormone levels aren't relevant until a few months in, so don't worry about that yet. You can probably get a kidney and liver function blood test from your doctor if you ask for it.

Hey does anyone have any good out of the way how do I know if I'm trans/doubt/questioning/am I making it up resources...
I know it's kind of an odd question, but I feel as though I've read/watched everything I can find that's worth it...

>>6064477
The tru trans stuff is bull crap. You don't need to call yourself trans if all you want to do is change your gender, all you have to do is change your gender. No labels required

>>6064570
I know that, and I know that I'm more than likely trans, but I'd just like some stuff that affirms what I'm going through right now is not abnormal, just for my own sanity...

>>6064657
lol, I went through that. I guess getting off of evil youtube, Laura's playground, and Susan's is a good idea. The moderators on those forums are evil and enforce sexist ideas. The people who disagree with them are censored like nothing. The lack of mental sanity on those forums is why it took me 6 years to transition. I literally thought that estrogen made men stupid and selfish and masculinized brains couldn't handle estrogen. It wasn't until I discovered sane people on 4chan and the asktransgender subreddit that I considered transition. I guess the transpropaganda that you've been seeing might be different than mine, but it probably has the same gender politics that discourages so many trans people from transitioning.

>>6064657
>>6064704
And I don't mean to imply that you've read those forums/youtube, it's just how I relate to it.

>>6060785
Shiling for my question again because it never got answered.

>>6065014
IDK where your dr got their info but it seems pretty crap...
My dr said they've been using finny for years to treat receding hairlines and it has very few negative interactions with other drugs.
I've been on it for over a month now and the only side effect I've gotten is a lowered sex drive...

>>6065034
Do I need it though? Is spiro + e enough to stop my hairline from receding?

>>6065045
I'm not really sure, I'm pre-hrt, but I think I heard somewhere that they will, just regrowth won't be as effective...

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>>6065045
here's pics as promised. My face starts right where the white box begins.
my gf says I just have a widow's peak but I don't believe her.

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>>6065081
And from the side. My face starts right where the bottom right white box begins.

Anyone know what happens to sexual drive after hormones

I dont really want it anymore.

K, I'm goin' to start self-transition soon, gonna check my
- ALT/AST levels to ensure if my liver does okay
- prothrombin time to ensure if I have a risk for thrombosis
- testosteron, estradiol and prolactin levels

What else is nessessary to make sure my health is okay?

>>6065172
a doctor to legally give you the go ahead you moron

>>6065181
Shut up you fool, I dwell in Russia.

>>6060785
>>6065045
>>6065081
Try finasteride, rogaine, biotin, etc. for at least two to six months in case it does actually work for you. You'll never know until you try.

>>6065327
How do i go about doing that if my doctor is against it? Also ny main question here is about urgency. Will my hairline continue to recede if i take 200mg spiro and 4mg e?

>>6065132
It goes away for a while and then when your hormones start to balance out at around a month in it comes back in a different way.
It's more like, yeah, I'm kind of in the mood, but I don't HAVE to masturbate. On T it's a lot more urgent, on E it's like, meh. But when you're really horny everything is sensitive it's great. I orgasmed twice last night and then passed out and slept like a baby. That's another thing, you can still be really turned on after orgasming.

>>6065368
Find another doctor or order it online.

>Will my hairline continue to recede if i take 200mg spiro and 4mg e?

Yes, because your body is still producing DHT, which causes hair loss.

>>6060534
>1
I'm austrian and managed to get mine covered so I guess it depends on the mood of the person looking at the request I wouldn't bet on it tho
>2
can only answer the last question with my own experiences
the post-op care is quite good (daily nurse check up, multiple weekle checkups with suporn)
the vagina looks normal,lubricates and is quite sensitive

>>6065698
Thanks

>>6064246
Thanks, yeah I'll see if I can get an appointment for a CMP test(the one that tests liver and kidney function) asap before I start taking hormones.

has anyone here transitioned while obese, or know anyone that did? I'm 5'7" and 290, and I won't give a bunch of excuses about how I let myself end up like this, but now I'm actively trying to lose weight with diet and exercise.

I'm 21 and I feel like if I wait any longer to start hrt I'm definitely going to end up offing myself, but I've also heard a lot of people say it's harder to lose weight on hormones. I just want to transition and not be a fat shit anymore, and I'm wondering what the best way to go about that is.

>>6066699
Honestly, the biggest obstacle to weight loss is motivation. If you think being on 'mones could give you a boost in that regard, that's points in favor of starting sooner rather than later.

I'm ftm, though, I won't claim to know anything about mtf hrt health risks.

Good luck though, sis. I've been fat. It sucks.

>>6066699
im 5'11 and i used to weigh 210 lbs, not nearly the same as you, but once i decided i would transition i just told myself i dont want to be a fat girl
i lost about 10 lbs in a month before hormones, then started hrt and lost another 30 in the following 2 months
motivate yourself and make a diet you can stick to
good luck

>>6066747
>>6066813
Thanks anons. Yeah I think even if it is a little bit harder on hormones, I'll be more motivated since I'll know I'm working towards looking like I want to look. I'm going to start seeing a therapist next month though, so I guess I'll just take it from there and keep trying to lose it in the meantime.

>>6065428

T convertes to DHT tho so if there's little to no T there can't be any DHT

>>6066897
There is still DHT in the body even without testosterone.

I'm 20 now, but since I was young I've always done things that seemed girly, when I was young and take a bath I would make myself look like a girl, and moreso after my mom told me. I did a few things without knowing they were feminine because they felt right, and was told not to do them but I stopped and did them in secret.
Ever since maybe 6-8 I've had ideas that maybe I should be a girl, or maybe I was supposed to be and the doctors said no (This was before I knew anything about sex)

So off and on through my life I've had these thoughts and hated my body hair since forever.
It faded and I kind of hated it but got along fine, till maybe 4 years ago I reverted back, I use feminine soaps/shampoos and stuff, I try to shave my legs, but more increasingly I want to take HRT

I didn't know much about trans at all except for regular things, I would sometimes imagine myself wearing my sisters clothes, and even tried some on that would have passed for unisex, but I felt so much better when I had them on than anything else I wore, I wanted to show off, and felt confident.

As of now I'm wanting to burst to tell someone I want to go full blown woman, I want to start the hormone therapy/blockers, the surgeries, maybe get a different nose and a great new wardrobe. But I'm terrified everyone in my extended family will dislike my immediate family, and before that, my immediate family might not support my decision and help.

I don't know if I am trans, or just confused but off and on I really want this, it also helped it's been in the news and media more and more, it helped me identify these things from my past and make sense of them.

>>6066961
But once the T is at a minimum the DHT would also be at a minimum, no?
You would only relly need finasteride for the first few months, then there would pretty much be no reason, it seems.

>>6066961
You still need testosterone to produce DHT.

Less testosterone in general = less DHT

plz, I need an answer, not a mockery
>>6065172

>>6055001
To be more specific, the less accepting place would be Mexico City, I would be going to a community college in Canada if I chose that (the difference is quite big, I guess). Don't know how much weight it has mentioning this, but I'm also a really bad student, not that I would be lazy if I went to the community college, but I just don't think I'm fit to an actual college.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm having trouble with the whole "pulling back" thing. Every time I try to pull my voice box back I end up constricting my throat. I can pull up and hold pretty well, but that doesn't mean anything without also pulling back. Anyone with experience have any tips?

So if I drink tea or another diuretic shortly before/after taking HRT, will it screw me over?

>>6068370
i drink tea every morning before taking hormones. My levels are fine.

Any trans girl from Argentina? How much does hrt cost per month?

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>>6054162
You would "feel" alone and depressed with **anyone** unless you transitioned kek. just do it

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>>6058192
well yeah you could die... should probably get that checked anon.

I've finally come to terms with becoming trans, it took me 16 (alsmost 20) years to figure it out, but now that I have I feel so great! I'm a little worried about coming out to my parents, and I'm certain it will take time for them to really grasp it, I feel like I could burst with happiness with the idea of becoming a girl finally! I'm only scared of the reactions from family/family friends and hope they don't want my parents to be friendless/family-less because of me, but thats my own concern. Is it this normal to feel elated and happy? Even before I've started even the therapy or told.

>>6069618
How did you get past all the stages where you're constantly flipping between being totally sure and racked with doubts?

>>6069642
It wasn't too hard for me, maybe I'm strong willed? But I've acted sort of in between male and female if that makes sense, Like 95% of all my friends were girls because It's who I felt more comfortable with, even as a toddler I remember. Then as I got older I would do things in secret, walking like a girl, practicing with makeup and nailpoilsh but if I was ever asked about it I would just say "I wanted to know what it was like" and my parents just took it as strong curiosity, nothing more, but as I got older I would sort of hint to friends like "Heh I wonder if in 5 years I'll be a girl or something, heheh" and they'd laugh and stuff, not in a mean way but a "very funny" way. And maybe starting in the 6th grade I made sure to buy soaps/shampoos/facial products targeted more towards women I guess to smell more feminine, and I was always in the very back of my mind would have preferred it I was. Even as a toddler I just assumed I was born a girl but they wanted a boy (Because I had an older brother, it makes sense in the mind of a 4-5 year old me) so they changed it. Then about october last month I had the urge to look into HRT because someone I know online is on it, so I looked into it, saw the effects, and was amazed that this was something I could do and very soon hopefully. It also helped that it's been in the media recently so I was able to identify with some of it and it helped me move forward. But now I'm 100% sure I want the whole 9 yards. Hopefully all I need is a nose/brow job and some HRT, and hopefully later on a sexual reassignment surgery when I have some money.

But idk I always had a small little thing to get me by so I didn't lose my mind with it, whether the body products, or the way I would walk in private, or talk to people openly about it and them thinking I was kidding (I was always a class clown type) so I never took anything too hard, my stepdad was pretty mean to me as a kid when he caught me with fake magnet earrings I had on at 7.

>>6069722
I even grew a beard after graduation because I thought it would make me see myself in a new way that I liked, but I hated it, but kept it just so people might say something. I hate facial/body hair, always have even on my arms and legs as a kid when it was thin and blonde. It drove me nuts, still does but I've not let it bother me much, and I've shaved my legs since 8th grade, nobody's ever noticed because I never war shorts.

>>6069722
>>6069738
Huh well I guess your experience is very different to mine...

Seriously though thanks for replying anyway, I love hearing people's stories regardless <3

>>6069750
No problem if you'd like I'd love to hear your story!

Anyone read the e-book "Hacking Transition"?
Worth the eight dollarydoos?

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>>6069182
Well it'll either be suicide or organ failure, either way it'll happen so I'm okay.

Hi everyone.
I've been thinking about starting HRT for a long time and decided last week I'd like to do it.
I have no idea where to begin though in starting.
General help questions: Where do I start? Am I required to be diagnosed with something from a therapist?

>>6068992
Sweet. I was really gonna miss drinking tea in the mornings

>>6069977
There're basically three routes you can take. You can start seeing a therapist, get a recommendation from them for a script, and then see a doctor. You can go to an informed consent clinic (if you live in an area that has them) where you cut out the therapist step and go straight to the script. Or you can self-med by ordering drugs online through sites like QHI and Inhouse Pharmacy.

>>6069977
>>6069996
Sorry. You can also self-med while seeing a therapist and waiting to get a script to go legit, 'cause I've heard that the process can take a long time depending on where you live.
Also if you're self-medding you'll still wanna do bloodwork to make sure you aren't killing your liver.

>>6069977
>>6069996
Was about to say pretty much what this anon said, but personally I would always recommend seeing a therapist at least once regardless of what you choose, just because it's helpful to bounce this stuff around in the air as opposed to in your head, and some kind of professional is the best person to speak to.

>>6069996
>>6069998
>>6070009
Thanks! I appreciate it.
I think I'm going to go see a therapist first and see what happens from there.
Self medicating sounds way too risky. Can't see why people would do it, especially with this.

>>6070028
Honestly I thought you'd tell me "Fuck the therapist", you sound so sure, and people like that sometimes see any psychological intervention as gatekeeping, which is one reason self-medding exists. Other people, unfortunately, may simply not have a choice, they may be being gatekept to the point where they cannot access the meds through a legitimate means, or live in a situation where that access would be impossible...

But if you're the anon from the agp general, and you're anything like me with swings between doubt and certainty, then yeah, seeing a therapist is pretty nice.

Question for would be hons living in boy mode until you can pass in the future. Is it any better?

How many pills should I order at first? Just to see if I have a reaction/results.

>>6071306
1-3 months worth.

Whats the best way of coming out, I don't live with my mother, and I Feel she might be the most understanding, my dad might but it would take some time. I don't want to text her, but at the same time I don't want to drop it on her on one of my few visits this year, but if she accepts me, she can persuade my father to so It's really 50/50. She's not disgusted by trans, or homosexuals, but her own son wants to be a girl, I can't see how she'd take it. Then again my older brother has been to jail countless times for drugs, theft, and has illegitimate children in a few states and she's ceased contact a few years back when he begged her for money time and time again and he's back on his feet now, but I don't want to be rubbed out by my parents, I barely have anything to survive on my own with, and with the cost of HRT it could be tricky.

Really? No trans girls at all from Argentina thatcan answer this question? Google gives me nothing and I'm scared to go to the doctor and ask this before coming out to my family
>>6068993

A lot of people in my life (including family and my psychologist) reacted the same way when I explained to them I was transgender: doubt. They all said I had never showed any signs of being uncomfortable as a boy and it was surprising to hear that from me. My friends told me it was normal and a lot of them got the same from their parents, but it just keeps going on for me. I keep being questioned and doubted by them to a point where I start to even doubt myself. And that just makes it feel even worse, since I've always imagined I'd be completely sure about it if I was actually trans. Having doubts about it honestly feels like a negative to me, but I'm not about to just put my feelings aside over this. I just need some way to be confident enough to talk back to them and show them how sure I am of myself.

>>6071388
>with the cost of HRT
60 dollars a month if you live in the US and use goodrx

Been taking 50mg of Cyproterone acetate for the last month and a half and for the last week or so ive developed a dull sometimes sharp pain in my back and sides. I went to my doctor and told him I was self medding cypro and he said my liver and kidneys are fine so he said he had no idea what the problem was. Since then ive dropped it down to 25mg.

Idk if I should stop or switch, its kinda complicated by the fact that im allergic as fuck to spiro so if theres any alternative AAs I would appreciate it if anyone has a solution.

>>6071562
I'd like to see a therapist about it though, I don't want to know what will work for me, I feel excited but also like I want to vomit from anxiety, sort of like being in love now that I've come to terms with it after being off and on since I figured out I could tuck it in in the bathtub as a kid and my mom said "You look like a girl when you do that ha" and all I remember is my eyes lighting up and I would do it to see if she said something again.
Probably TMI but thats my first memory of wanting it. :/

Can I go to the gym while on HRT (I don't know what gets released when exercising) but I don't go to the gym now, but as on the meds, will it fuck up with my hormone therapy while spinning or yoga or elyptical, idk what I'd do at the gym but in general would strenuous activity throw off something? I'd like to lose a little belly and leg fat so I could wear a skirt at some point, you know?

>>6064050
bumping for this, not that anon but im in calgary alberta, and when i do google searches its susans place and a ton of gay/lesbian articles.

How do I keep pale skin while avoiding the gross pasty look? I usually put lotion on daily and exfoliate one a week. What else should I be doing?

Any tests in particular you guys recommend to have done before starting hormones?

I've been on MtF HRT for about 10.5 months now. I've got a pair of itty bitty titties, and I'm thinking about stopping HRT and going back to just being a dude.

What's gonna go back to normal and how long would it take if I were to stop?

Will the tits go away on their own?

So if Finasteride and HRT don't end up getting me to a good hairline, do I have any options other than getting a wig/constantly wearing hats?

>>6072584
>Will the tits go away on their own?
No, you have to get a mastectomy

>>6072056
I am in calgary and am going through the process of trying to get HRT right now. What I did was go to my school's (SAIT) counselling centre and see a psychiatrist there. Normally trans in calgary are supposed to be referred to see Dr. Joe Raiche but there is something like a 12-18 month waiting list to see him. What the psych I am seeing is trying to do is let me be referred to an endo before seeing Dr. Raiche so I don't have to wait so long. I'm not really sure how that is going to go but hopefully it works out okay.

If you need a counsellor here are some I have seen others recommend:
https://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/name/Lynn_Michele_Sloane_PhD_Calgary_Alberta_104345
http://www.insightpsychological.ca/contact/calgary/
http://www.calgarysexualhealth.ca/programs-workshops/counselling/
http://www.karunacounsellinggroup.com/index.php/therap/jen/
http://www.noramacquarrie.com/
http://www.carolynclaire.ca/

If you don't have insurance and cannot afford a private counsellor the Alex Youth Health Centre or Catholic Family Services are supposed to be alright too.

I found this on reddit, there is some okay info about doctors and stuff: http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.Fk17HbLH$3Zwsyqer77xfOY/latest

Also when you are contacting psychologists you might want to ask them if they are actually able and willing to write you a recommendation for HRT because the first psychologist I saw at my school told me she couldn't diagnose or prescribe anything and referred me to the psychiatrist. So I am not really sure if maybe only psychiatrists can give a recommendation. I think psychologists should be able to as well but it would be good to make sure before you see one.

>>6072603
rogaine and biotin

>>6069753
Depends. Nothing exclusive in it, more of a recap. If you're just starting it's probably worth it.

>>6071667
Are you sure you're allergic to spiro (the active ingredient), and not the other component of the pill (excipients) ?

If the latter, it is possible a different generic may work for you. (without the offending excipient)

If the former, first if your blood tests are fine, maybe work through it for a bit longer, in case it's temporary. If not you could consider alternative AA : bicalutamide, GnRH [ant]agonists, medroxyprogesterone acetate depot, megestrol acetate. (Loosely in of feasability/efficacy). Though apart from bicalutamide, they are difficult to self-med. (Don't forget to do your research on these before choosing.)

>>6072790
Yeah I was more interested in the first half on doubts and questioning, because I feel like I've exhausted all the resources on that already :/

I probably will get it just because I connected to her videos so much though...

>>6072056
I've been going to see Dr. JJ Miles in Calgary - he's a licensed gender therapist.
Also, a friend of mine is seeing Dr. Cathy Pittman, and she's mentioned Dr. Jane Oxenbury. To my knowledge, both of them are licensed gender therapists that can refer you to an endo as well.

totally legitimate question: can a male ALSO surgically receive a vagina? Is it even possible? How does it all work? Kinda new to this stuff

>>6073334
You mean you want both? I think the way most SRS vaginas are made involves the use of penile and scrotal tissue that's already present, not to mention the nerves of the penis. I doubt it; why do you ask?

>>6072909
I tried a few different Spiro pills and brands but nothing worked, idk if I really want to try Spiro again because the chest pain usually persists for a few days to weeks depending on how long I take it for. But thanks for the info on the other stuff ill have a think about it.

sometimes i feel perfectly ok with the fact that i will probably never pass without major ffs i will never be able to afford. in these times it feel like my boyfriend and friends are enough to make me happy.

then i wake up the next day and spend all day crying over the fact that i will never pass. it sits over me like a cloud all day that i can never run away from and its impossible to get my man face out of my mind.

how do i stop feeling so shitty all the time and feel good more of the time?

>>6074486

It won't change i you just sit there in your own miser. Go figure out a plan to aquire money. "money doesnt make you happy" thats what we all hear all the time. But for people like us, we need money for our transition to get happy.

>>6073269
Thanks anon, ill look in to them.

Hi all (M2F here)
Been dating this girl for a while now, she has been really vocal of her LGBT+ support and various other thing ( she is Bi herself).
So I told her about my orientation and if she was ok with it unsurprisingly she said no and left me ( this is not the 1st time this has happened and I don't think it will be the last)

for those with cis female other half how did you bring up the issue and what are the best flags that this repulsion going to happen because I'll be damned if I know

>>6075034

>she has been really vocal of her lgbt+ support

That's when you know that you should stay away from them.

>>6075054
Maybe overly vocal was going to far, I had asked what she thought about the queer movement, with postivt feedback, she even went to a Uni protest for a school program

>>6075066
Of course she was positive, because if you aren't it makes you look bad, and when you think it won't ever REALLY affect you or your life who care?

>>6075079
Then how do I stop this cycle from happening over and over again ?

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Been satisfied with being somewhat Andro for a while now, as I definitely feel weird as far as gender goes. But hormones have started picking up a bit and I think with makeup and a little actual effort I could finally look pretty feminine. Any tips? I seriously suck whenever I try to learn anything makeup related

>>6075382
maybe start with eradicating your beard shadow perhaps?

>>6075382
I bet trimming those eyebrows down would work wonders, they are pretty thick.

>>6075382
Practice gets you to Carnegie Hall, get some cheap natural tone makeup and go from there, there's tons of guides. and yeah I see it, pass

>>6075397
Took a while after my latest lazer session, I'll admit, forgot to get back into the habit of shaving.

>>6075411
I thought so as well, always feel nervous going somewhere for that but better to get it out of the way. Thanks.

>>6075382
also stop doing these godawful goofy expressions, they make your face look more manly than it is

>>6075449
What quite is wrong with it? Sorry, it is just slightly natural, but I'll definitely work on trying something else. Any suggestions?

>>6075476
Always keep your mouth relaxed and slightly open (your lips should still touch)

>>6075476
because when you do expressions like that your eyes look like that of a serial killer and your chin becomes more noticeable

>>6075506
Not that anon but how do you keep your mouth open with your lips touching?

>>6075525
Point taken. Don't want anyone to find that out yet. Thanks

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Anyone whos tried both laser and electro for hair removal, how would you compare the two for pain?

I had quite a few laser sessions done in the last few years, but I've just made an electro appointment for next Friday to get rid of it for good. The upper lip area was always the most painful, and I'm scared it'll be much worse.

>>6075592
dont subconsciously clench your teeth ding dong :)

>tfw trans girl you know has serious dysphoria attack and you have no idea how to help her besides tell her she's beautiful and a wonderful person but can't help with the feels about not growing up as a little girl
>tfw wanna hug her and make her feel better but she lives 4 hours away

>>6075777
>tfw no friend who cares enough to drive 4 hours to hug me and tell me it's okay
>tfw no friend who would walk 10 min in rain to just see me
>tfw no friend

I've been on finasteride and spironolactone for about a month and a half, but I feel like my hairline has gotten worse. Anyone else get that?

I just remembered... I used to think my dysphoria was just another part of my desire to live the entirety of human experience.

Turns out I'm actually trans.

>>6076026
That's supposed to happen at first I'm pretty sure, and then it'll come back.

>>6076043
Oh thank god. I was getting major league stressed out over it.

>>6076042
I know that feel.
>feel like you're missing out on large parts of life with, for the longest time, no idea why

What do I use to hide tits? I don't wanna get a binder. I can't wear some of my favorite shirts because perky nips

>>6076119
Pasties. Definitely pasties. (Don't actually listen to me; I know not what I speak of).

>>6051091

Hi. Could use some advice. Uhm, I'm not sure what I want.
I would prefer to look like a female but still have my penis. I like girls not boys.
What am I? What's my sexuality?

>>6076131
>Pasties. Definitely pasties.
I'd wear them during sexy time, but if I wore them throughout the day I'd feel too slutty to concentrate.

>>6076119
Baggy layered clothing.

>>6076156
Lots of MtFs still want to keep their penis; you don't have to hate every part of your body to be trans. Your sexual orientation is irrelevant to whether or not you're trans.

>>6076067
>>feel like you're missing out on large parts of life with, for the longest time, no idea why
Yes. This for years. I always had with me this second shadow, even in moments I was ostensibly happy.

I'm relieved that I live in a time and a place where I get to put a name to it and treat it.

>>6076180
So I can be classified as female and still have a penis?

Is it normal that I hate most trannies, yet I'm one myself? Nearly every one I've met is either a "ftm" tumblr snowflake, super unhinged, giant sjw, or a combination of the three...

>>6076227
Trannies are pretty terrible. I don't blame you.

>>6076187
Like this nagging feeling of something being wrong, yeah?

And agreed, it's good to be able to know and be able to do something about it.

>>6072653
lot of good info thanks, may look in to the youth centre, its hard to find work looking different, not even counting feeling depressed, which i can assume only makes me looks more unhireable. Even worse when they threaten to let you go because of male company policy, which really sucks when i cant even try and be subtly.

but yeah blog over, thanks to all the calgary poster sending me links, feeling a lot less alone
now in the world, lol.

>>6076227
It sounds like you just hate those things; none of them are inherent to being trans, even if they might be more common in trans people. You shouldn't feel anything about hating trans people like those "despite" being trans yourself, since you hate that particular kind of trans person rather than trans people in general. Even if you did, internalised transphobia is pretty common in transsexuals.

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>>6076215
Depends on how you define "female". Your reproductive system, genotype, and a few other minor things will always be male, but with hormone replacement therapy you can have female sex hormone levels, and if you body isn't particularly masculine to start with then you can end up looking completely female in every way but your genitals (even things like body odour change). With the right body it's possible to pass well enough that no-one would be able to tell you were trans; for almost all intents and purposes you would be female. Like, if you look like pic related (she's MtF) then no-one in day-to-day life is going to consider you to be male or treat you that way.

Sex isn't really as clearly defined as you might think. There are lots of intersex conditions that make it possible to have things like sex chromosomes other than XX or XY, or ambiguous genitalia, or even things like total androgen insensitivity syndrome which allows for XY individuals to develop in such as way as to be phenotypically indistinguishable from XX individuals (even having a vagina; though they do still have testicles they're not perfectly developed and also undescended, and the person is insensitive to the testosterone they produce). You could certainly reasonably consider a transitioned MtF to be "female", at least to a certain extent. You can't just go off genitals, or just off sex chromosomes. If you consider having a penis to define masculinity, then sure, you're male; but that's not the only valid definition.

If you "feel" female or "identify as female" (which are totally subjective), then you can consider yourself to be female, in some sense. It depends on your preferences for terminology, but I'd consider there to be a difference between being female and being a woman, where "female" covers physical characteristics and "woman" covers mental/social ones; I understand it to be possible to be male while still being a woman, and vice-versa, though many would disagree.

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>>6076260
Yeah, exactly that.

Anyone here bought from unitedpharmacies before? Are they legit?

>>6075752
electro hurts more and takes longer.

>tfw nipples are starting to get sensitive
My god finally. I remember trying to play with them in the past while masturbating and it being really disappointed that it didn't do anything for me.

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I'm ready to start HRT, I found like 5 clinics that give mones but they are all at least an hours drive from me.

Is there anything I should know before I go? Do I call first or just walk in? I'm so nervous :/.

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>>6083049

as long as they follow informed consent protocol you should be just fine. don't be nervous. it'll be over with before you know it and you'll be on girl pills soon

call first to make an appointment, that way if they are ICATH it's easier for them to set up prescriptions

Can someone help me here, I wan't mones but I don't know who to ask first, like what doctor? Where do I go, does it cost anything, (to see the doctor not for the HRT) I'm a good 7 months from turning 20 and I don't think I can keep this in any longer, I haven't even told my parents... I just need some advice or something, I don't think they would understand right away and might lash out at me or something...

>>6083066
Alright thanks will do :)

Can anyone who's using Minoxidil give any tips, or point me in the direction of a credible sort of "how-to" source? Things relating to the temple region or front area would be especially helpful.

>>6083250
If you are using the liquid version:
>use the dropper to apply some to your scalp
>rub it in with your fingers (it will still be a bit wet)
>wash your hands
>leave it to be absorbed for an hour or two
>do this twice a day, for 2-4 months

Any packaging that tells you not to put it on your temples is bullshit, it only says that because it was never tested on that area of scalp.
2 months of use here and I've just started getting regrowth.

Hey all. I'm FtM, been out a while. I've not medically transitioned, but I'm waiting for hormones. How can I voice train in the mean time? I'm self conscious of my voice.

>>6083084
Where are you from

Hi, transhelp!

I'm taking 200 mg of spiro daily, on 50 mg pills, four times a day ever 6 hours because I feel like it's more 'stable' and more in tune with natural body release. Would it be better to take two 100 mg ones every 12 hours?

Ive been able to find some links to therapists, but as moneys an issue transition still seems far away. Kinda curious though, im 24
5'9
39in shoulder circumfrence
26 waist
33 hips
Are these super masculine measurements? Any advice for someone in canada thats prehrt?

>>6084800
You literally need no training,mones do nearly everything,lucky FtMs ;-;

>>6084800
>>6084944
Though that is mostly true, as T will naturally lower your pitch, it's not all it takes to have a totally passing voice

Here are some ideas :
http://www.nyspeechandvoicelab.net/transgender/voice-masculinization/

>>6084892
No, what you're already doing is ideal. Though, you wake up to take it every 6 hours exactly ? That sounds exhausting.

>>6084944
Even when considering only pitch this just isn't true. Male and female larynges are different, and second puberty affects FtM voices differently than cis male puberty affects cis male voices. Please stop perpetuating the idea that all FtMs can simply coast once on T.
>>6084800
http://www.radical-musicology.org.uk/2008/Constansis.htm
^ My favourite link on the topic of FtM voice transition. If I could make every pre-T FtM read one thing regarding the technicalities of transition, it would be this.
However, it's not practically helpful 'in the meantime'. >>6084986
gotchu, though.

Anyone use medroxyprogesterone acetate as an AA? It apparently suppresses LH leading to less test in the bloodstream so if anyone has any experience pls share

>>6084800
male voices resonate from the chest and use volume to place emphasis rather than pitch
start practicing that, i have no exercises or anything for you bc im mtf myself
good luck

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I don't even know why I post in these threads anymore.
I'm like a ghost or something, sustaining myself on people's pity when I post my pathetic complaints about life.

What do you do when you're 23, 5'8'', and your chest, waist, and hip measurements are 40/40/36?
With a face not even FFS can fix?
With diagnosed psychosis, on top of the mental illness called gender dysphoria?

It's like I'm addicted to posting in this shithole just to hear the "It's going to be alright" from the pathetic hons who are going to kill themselves or detransition any day, or the "lmao kill yourself" from the lucky ones who started transitioning when they were like 14.

I hate this, I hate knowing what dysphoria even is, I hate knowing what makes me feel so shit, I hate not being able to feel anything from human beings, I hate hating myself so much, I hate how psychologists and psychiatrists can do nothign for me.

I'd say "This is unfair" if I still believed in anything like worldly justice existing.

>>6086003
Do you like video games? Or anything other in your life?
Make your interests consume you, and don't face life, just keep on going with your interests.

>>6086010
I don't get pleasure from anything. Besides, most 'positive' emotions in life require effort, something that's impossible to put in anything when you know your life isn't going to go anywhere.

We did a battery of tests at the hospital, and I presented reactions only to negative stimulation.

It's like I'm literally unable to feel happiness.

So is the pdf listing all the IC clinics in the US up to date? And for those that have used them, would it be possible to drive up for the initial visit/blood work and then have the hormones mailed to me? Because I unfortunately live in an area with zero IC clinics and from asking around will have little luck going the traditional route where I currently live.

Does T do anything for gynecomastia on AMABs? I'm starting to wonder if a low dose might unfuck that just enough that I won't need surgery to get rid of it.

What is the difference between a femboy and a trans, especially if both get ffs and are on hormones?

>>6086465
No

Just like estrogen won't shrink your male bones, T won't shrink your breasts

Either you get surgery or you deal with it

>>6086495
Femboys are like trans but don't go as far in terms of transitioning. They can be comfortable living as males and might use FFS/hormones to appear less masculine, but have little to no desire to present as the opposite gender. Femboys might not have crippling gender dysphoria.

>>6086495
femboys are just cute males
They identify as guys, although their behaviour is often 'cute' or feminine.
Trans girls, meanwhile, want to be girls.
As in, the ideal result is being indistinguishable from a born female, while femboys want to be visibly male, while still being cuter than girls

>>6086568
My ideal is to pretty much look like a girl and people would only know otherwise if I told them. I would dress like a girl only at home, I don't hate my dick, but I still have dysphoria in terms of hating looking male (if that still fits the definition). I'm guessing that's above a femboy, but below a trans?

I doubt I could get across my intentions to someone outside of /lgbt/ without them thinking I will be wearing a wedding dress in daily life.

>>6086602
Why do you not want people to see you and treat you as a female?

Is it true you have to masturbate every day to keep your dick big so you have a working srs vagina?
Masturbation is making me really dysphoric :(

>>6084798
Sweet. Thanks, anon. I thought you had to keep using it though, even after you got stuff to come back.

>>6086613
I suppose in terms of daily life, acting and being treated like a female doesn't feel natural. Especially if I were talking to male friends or just men in general, I would want to talk to them as a male, since I am straight. Being treated like a girl by another girl would be good as far as a relationship goes because I don't have any interest in being the leader or alpha. I mainly resonate with femininity for romanticism and sex I guess. Hopefully my explanation is coherent enough.

where does QHI actually dispatch from, and how long do they take on average? I'm in the uk, I've only ever bought from ihp before. I've heard they're usually way fast, but it'd be good to get a better opinion

>>6086642
I'm not sure about that yet, I keep forgetting to ask my witch doctor.

If i have a muscular neck, can i expect my neck size to diminish on hrt?

>>6086736
when i bought from QHI, the package was dispatched from Spain, delivery was like 10 days

>>6086736
>>6087750
i live in scandinavia by the way

So, I'm really androgynous and not 100% on transitioning. My roommate keeps saying that I'm girly (no way that I'd ever come out to that dickwad, though I have to, like, three or four friends.) I like to think of myself as a girl, and have played them in RPGs and feel like I empathize with girls better. Also, not sure if I could ever pass or not. Been looking for help from people in the know for some time now.

>>6086637
Close your eyes and focus on the feeling not the action

>>6086276
I'd also like to know this.

>>6086276
>>6088046
I'm not trans, just passing through, but I am a lawyer and mostly do healthcare stuff. The short answer is that it depends on the drug, the dosage form, what state the clinic is in, and the state's laws concerning physician dispensing and deliveries/mail order from pharmacies. This isn't taking into account subjective things like whether someone on staff is just a bigot and wants to make things more difficult on you. Healthcare workers love to tell their patients that the law requires them to do things, but they are usually lying or misinformed.

Just going off the top of my head- you can probably get tablets, creams, etc. mailed to your house. Injectables maybe, but it depends a lot, I'd have to see. Also how testosterone is treated may depend on your local DEA branch. They have quite a bit of autonomy and there can be substantial differences in how certain controlled substances are treated in the various regions.

Also keep in mind that opting for mail order or delivery may trigger some kind of clause in your insurance- it's not uncommon for insurers to require that patients use a particular pharmacy for specialty drugs, etc. If that pharmacy sucks and you can't get off your insurance, you're stuck.

Best of luck and I hope things work out for you.

>>6086276
>>6088046
>>6088133

I've had no problem with just getting my prescriptions called in to my nearest wal-mart. I get mine from Chicago Women's Health center. When I first started I was living in OH, I'm living in FL now. I go to LabCorp for bloodwork every now and then. I haven't had to deal with insurance at all, though. haven't had it since long before I started HRT. Both spiro and estradiol are cheap through wal-mart's generic prescription drug program.

>>6086637
bump for this question; I refuse to masturbate and have never done so but if that makes things difficult...