How can one spot a closeted mtf ?
>>5835488
loook for them beebs!
>>5835488
Look for them buups
>>5835498
>>5835501
mweeee
>>5835506
wmoooo
>>5835488
You just call those femboys
>>5835557
what does this comic mean
>>5835557
I miss trans girl diaries...
>>5835566
>mtf constantly gets told she looks like a dude by her mother.
>Internalizes it, and decides she looks like a man.
>Tranny doesn't realize that hormones worked and people see her as a girl
>awkward situations happen
>>5835488
Post-hrt
>start looking younger
>facial hair disappears
>skin gets softer
>wearing layers of clothes or larger sizes to hide changes
>evasive
Eyes, boobs, and fingernails.
Prolly wearing something baggy.
>noticeably younger looking, no facial hair
>noticeable boobs
>possibly long hair
>wears baggy clothing and is constantly adjusting her jacket/shirt to cover her boobs
>sits with legs crossed or close together like a cis girl
>gets really quiet/uncomfortable when LGBT topics come up
>looks tired or depressed all the time
>awkward posture to hide boobs
>look really uncomfortable wearing just t-shirts on windy days, shirts will fold around curves, and they will constantly pull the shirt away
>isn't really gay, but doesn't want to fuck, just foreplay and cuddling, is not really in the moment if you do fuck
>kisses like a girl
>gets quiet and depressed for seemingly no reason at parties/bars/gatherings where there are lots of girls and she's obviously not included because she's a boy to everyone
>random feminine mannerisms or expressions just slip out sometimes
>>5836313
Oh damn, 5/7. I didn't know it was that obvious.
>>5836313
7/7
i'm a femboy, fuck
>>5835556
look for them bamps
>they don't look like their drivers license or social media picture anymore
>hates to have their picture taken
>>5836666
Nice quads
>>5836208
Ya this. This is me right now. Can't wait to go to a deserted island with my bf so I can actually show some skin and have no one to judge me.
How do you spot a closeted FtM?
>>5836935
deep voice, short hair, acne
>>5836400
>kisses like a girl
how do girls kiss?
>>5836962
Usually with their mouth.
>>5836962
I dunno, probably softer, more touchy and atmospheric than men? Every girl I've been with has paused our makeout sessions to tell me that I kiss like a girl, and then they start kissing me again.
>>5836400
That was so accurately me throughout my life holy shit
>>5836313
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
6/7
i don't know where to put this but maintenance people came into my apartment today while i was gone and i swear my estrogen pill strip was moved from where it was earlier
>>5836950
That's just your regular FtM tho
>>5836400
>tfw this describes me perfectly but I don't have boobs
Also I dance like a girl, I don't like to go to shows/parties with people I know because I tense up and can't dance.
>>5837091
Was it laying out on the counter or something? They may have set their toolbag there and pushed it out of the way
>>5836270
E-eyes?
>>5837106
no it was on my desk under my computer monitor...there is no reason why they would have needed that space
>>5837112
My guess would be that they like drugs and were seeing what it was to see if they could steal it and get high.
>>5837118
ah maybe. how disappointed they would have been
>>5837106
>be at first middle school dance
>slow song plays
>walk out on the dancefloor with a girl
>drape my arms around her shoulders
>anon, what are you doing, lol
>at the grand march before prom
>somehow end up holding the flowers
>pictures all sorted for pick up by male's name except for mine and my date's
>>5837091
A tupperware container full of skincare, and hair products mysteriously disappeared from my apartment once. Literally no one else has been here either other than my parents a few times.
>>5837110
>Eyes
It's difficult to describe, but they get more feminine on hrt, like more open or something.
>>5837154
>>5837106
>>5837025
shit hons say
>>5837154
>Be me at an edm concert alone
>totally letting loose grooving
>Show ends and I kinda come back to reality
>Guy puts his arm around me and starts chatting me up
>Says how he thinks its great there's so many openly gay people there
>I get kinda awkward but he doesn't mind.
>I get his number
And thus I began down the road for me accepting myself
>>5837167
Just a closeted femboy on hormones desu.
>>5836935
flat chest w/ no definition (so, wearing a binder), wears guy clothes/mostly guy clothes but has slightly better fashion sense than most normal guys, sometimes has an undercut or just plain buzzed hair, sometimes squints, slouches, tries to use a deep voice even if they're not on t, talks about video games or sports more than a girl would
>>5835488
Define closeted. Pre-transition and still in denial, or transitioning, but not in girl mode yet?
>>5837203
yeah?
but how can you be a closeted femboy, isnt femboy a fashion style?~
>>5837553
Wear a qt little dress and stockings under a trenchcoat
>>5837581
femboy is not a transvestite nor a crossdresser
>>5837870
Can be - there's not that rigid a divide between "femboy" and "trap." Just underage cockhavers who are nubile and unmasculine.
grab them by the balls
if they squuek
like a pig
they b eet
then twitch them nipples~ much moe
>>5840256
i use them When i pinch and theyare found
found
>>5836313
Shit 7/7. Was it that obvious?
>>5841477
>7/7
Checked.
>>5835488
The real question is how do you spot a repressed one?
You know, not on hormones.
yet
>>5836935
Some of those dykey looking girls who date guys are closeted gay FtMs. Nearly all female body builders. pic related.
>>5843332
My penis is uncertain how to respond
>>5835488
look for [spoiler]a feminine penis[/spoiler]
>>5843332
What the fuck. That is literally a dude wearing a bra. His face looks nothing like a females. He even looks like he has a brow ridge and mustace. Wtf.
>>5843034
>long hair
>clean shaven
>always looks sad or depressed
>suspiciously quiet when trans/lgbt topics come up
>>5843896
so thats why people suspect me.
>>5843034
>sullen look when not included with girls
>always sad daydreaming, far away look
>feminine behaviours slip out
>moody af
>>5837105
The non-closeted kind will tell you.
>>5836962
like bags of sand
is it possible for a mtf to be closeted
i mean maybe i'm just more able to spot them than normies
but what the hell
literally zero pass irl
>>5848077
You have a misconception, senpai. You think we're talking about stealth MtFs when we're not.
>In-denial MtF = Looks 100% like a man, hasn't started transition yet
>Closeted MtF = Has started hormonal transition, has not started living as a woman or come out
>Stealth MtF = Lives as a woman fully transitioned, doesn't tell anyone, passes
How do you think you would find a passing MtF, if a passing MtF means they look female, and therefore would be unrecognizable as an MtF to you?
>>5848127
>How do you think you would find a passing MtF, if a passing MtF means they look female, and therefore would be unrecognizable as an MtF to you?
thats a puzzle since a passable mtf does not exist irl
through angles and lighting online yes but literally never irl
>>5848139
>through angles and lighting online yes but literally never irl
Dont be a meme, I've met plenty of passing trans girls IRL and 2 trans dudes.
>>5848156
lmao
sure the mtf might look feminine
but anyone who's met more than a few can tell the difference, i.e. face/hips/shoulders although th telling sign is almost 100% of the time the voice
and no ftm has a passing face, unless they grow a grotesque beard, and even then they're usually 5'3" or smth loooooo
>>5848158
oh also: ftm browline never passes
>>5843388
>Fallon Fox
>>5848214
>How WOULD you know she's trans without her telling you?
how is that actually relevant? Do they have to actually confirm it to be able to determine it? Like, really? Can I not tell if someone is black without them telling me?
>Your method is incapable of spotting a completely passing tranny because it's designed to clock clockable trannies.
No, it's to spot biological males who roleplay irl as the opposite sex, which is what that is.
>>5848139
>>5848139
I'm telling you to imagine a trans girl that passes 100%, whether any actually exist in reality does not matter for the question. How WOULD you know she's trans without her telling you? How would you know the real deal when her being the real deal means she can't be spotted using the methods you use to recognize clockable trannies? Doesn't that throw your entire viewpoint out of the window? Do you see how you're not using logic? Unless there's some critical piece information you're leaving out.
Your method is incapable of spotting a completely passing tranny because it's designed and calibrated to clock clockable trannies. Of course you'll think there are no passing trannies when that's all the data you have. You don't say you proved atoms don't exist because you can't find them using your refractive microscope. Your tool isn't robust enough for the task.
>>5848226
Literally: blank your mind for some seconds.
Consider:
>there is a trans woman that looks just like a cis woman
>she is among a crowd of cis women
How do you pick her out from the crowd? Suppose the question were made more difficult, some nearly completely passable, but still clockable trannies of unknown number were added to the crowd, how would you find the trans woman with a cis appearance? Raising the difficulty level again: same as the last scenario, but now the clockable trannies become increasingly difficult to spot as you go on, how do you know when you've clocked every tranny, including the tranny with a cis appearance?
Keep in mind, a trans woman that passes for cis is exactly what you said could not exist, so that's why you are being asked how you would identify one if such a person existed. Your method provides unfalsifiable results if it can't detect information that contradicts it. And therefore, is trash.
And don't say completely passing trannies don't exist, because pre-pubertal transitioners are putting an end to the veracity of that statement. Not that that matters, I'm asking you to abstract, consider something without believing it, as Plato's often misquoted.
Similar question:
If I told you that as you slept, I killed your original self and replaced it with a clone with the same memories, how would you prove me wrong, assuming you live in a world where such a thing were possible and a frequent occurrence?
Just look into their soulless, dead eyes.
>>5836313
>possibly long hair
>wears baggy clothing and is constantly adjusting her jacket/shirt to cover her boobs
>sits with legs crossed or close together like a cis girl
>gets really quiet/uncomfortable when LGBT topics come up
>looks tired or depressed all the time
>>5836400
>look really uncomfortable wearing just t-shirts on windy days, shirts will fold around curves, and they will constantly pull the shirt away
>isn't really gay, but doesn't want to fuck, just foreplay and cuddling, is not really in the moment if you do fuck
>kisses like a girl
>gets quiet and depressed for seemingly no reason at parties/bars/gatherings where there are lots of girls and she's obviously not included because she's a boy to everyone
>random feminine mannerisms or expressions just slip out sometimes
>>5843896
>long hair
>always looks sad or depressed
>suspiciously quiet when trans/lgbt topics come up
>>5844570
>sullen look when not included with girls
>always sad daydreaming, far away look
>feminine behaviours slip out
>moody af
being alive is awful 0/10 wouldn't play again
They suddenly want to grow out their hair.
>>5843896
Also
>occasionally tries to quietly tell uncle that trannies aren't freaks at thanksgiving, but doesn't push the issue and nervously just says "okay"
>>5848362
That's Jews, silly.
>>5836400
lol the tranny delusion is real
>kisses like a girl
>random feminine mannerisms or expressions
and all these men are like "oh wow that is so totally me!! XD"
when in reality that makes no sense. How does "a girl" kiss? what is a feminine expression?
it's delusional. there is no "way girls kiss". you freaks just watched too many movies showing the girl kissing in x way, and because you're a tranny freak who can't separate make believe from reality you think that's how all girs kiss and because you kiss that way it makes you a girl
and don't even try to argue with me because you know deep down it's true. your mind has too rigidily defined gender roles I donnou mmaybe you had fucked up parents saying x is for girls y is for boys but yout you liked x so you had to supress it and bury it, and it manifests in your mind in that you start believing it. I'll explain again,
you are a young boy doing x activity
Parents say:
x is for girls stop it
so you stop it
but you still want to do it, which leads to shame and confusion because you believe your parents that
x is for girls
and some time passes, your parents have firmly entrenched the idea in your mind that liking x is something girls do (their intention was to stop you doing it)
but you just can't help liking and doing x, it's like a compulsion to you
it's secret and exciting and scary, what if your parents caught you??! you think, but that fear just makes the activity more intense, perhaps even sexually arousing
and time passes
and finally you reach the point where "x is for girls" is so firmly entrenched in your mind, that the only way to make sense of your desire to do x, is for you to be a girl. you must be a girl! because you like x, and x is for girls. Aha! You are a girl!
and that's how your delusion started. you would of just turned out like a gay male, but your parents set clear gender roles and it fucked you up
>>5850389
yea im not a real woman i just act like one cuz it turns me on
>>5850389
>tfw still like girls
#rekt
#trashed
>>5850389
Regardless of any gender roles or other preferences I have my main issue is being uncomfortable with what testosterone does to my body. I don't like the effects of it at all but being on estrogen is different. I'd rather have these female physical traits rather than these male ones that make me uncomftorable.
That's the majority of the difference between men and women imo. It has little to do with forced gender roles.
>>5850389
The kiss like a girl thing was a verbatim quote from ex-gf's, before I was out to anyone, not "how I imagined girls kiss". Also, I started hormones because I hated the direction my body was going in, but nice try.
>>5850389
I dont even care how i act i just want to look like a girl, and probably sound like one, i hate how manly i look
I aint transitioning though, because i know its delusional. Estrogen boy = best boy
>>5850434
But it shrinks your dick so you become a flawed man.
>>5850709
>not wanting a tiny nonfunctional clitty that flops up and down when real men fuck you
>>5850709
Its not THAT small, and i didnt really care about that anyway.
>>5850389
> there is no "way girls kiss."
lol, i've made out with 10+ of each sex and the difference is night and day. there is no way you genuinely believe what you're saying.
>>5850960
He's gay, it's no surprise he doesn't know what a woman is like.
>>5837207
>implying trans guys have good fashion sense
top lol
>>5851921
they dress like tumblurites
>>5850960
smaller face etc
but its not a question of technique
now then
trannies have man bone manjaw manteeth
manface
mankiss
>>5851999
>its not a question of technique
then why don't androgynously faced cis people kiss in an androgynous way?
>>5852011
>kiss in andro way
so you can kiss not only like a girl, and not only like a guy
but also like an andro?
inb4 kissing like a genderflux
>>5836935
>baggy hoodie or multiple layers of clothes
>hair covering face
>extreme 90 degree angle slouching to flatten chest
>chubby with suspiciously non existent tits
>tiny hands/short/chubby legs
>never speaks or speaks with a forced male voice
>empty sad eyes
>overly nice for no reason
>>5837186
isn't it awkward going to concerts alone?
>>5848158
>no ftm has a passing face
>smug kirino.jpg
>>5852082
When did this nigga start T?
>>5852100
19-20 i think
>>5852105
He must have been ugly as fuck for a woman then. Good thing he turned out to be FtM.
>>5852111
always looked male to me
>>5852124
Yeah, it's a good thing he was FtM with that face. Maybe he's intersex or had some hormonal issue. What's with the kid? His son or little brother/sister?
>>5852124
>that was female
>>5852176
They do. Before I started HRT, the thing I thought I would need to get fixed by FFS for sure would be my brow bone, but then I found out it's my jaw and chin. My brow is still sloped like a man's for sure, but it's not as bas as I thought.
>>5852156
>mtfs are a meme
>>5852145
i think its his girlfriends kid.
but yeah, it seems like if he had gotten any more test exposure in the womb he would have been intersex or male
>>5852176
Your brow bone will stay the same, it's just that your eyes will look different.
>>5852017
consider this: there is basically a ale style and a female style. the differences between the two can be quantified and one can conceive of a style that is in the middle. and yet cis women with more masculine faces (and cis men with more feminine faces) do not kiss in this way. they kiss normally for their gender.
this is easy to get. i strongly suspect you're willfully misreading what i'm saying.
hates themself +wants 2 die
