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I miss moot edition ;~;
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Old >>5589072
>>5590159
i feel that feel
xth for ribcage removal
>>5590159
she will be back some day
>>5590156
>mfw sweet pookie is more evil then ex drug addict elanna
what are you listening to /mtfg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8sJ21qqzLg
>>5590166
f me, moot passes better then me
>tfw feeling sick and have no bf to take care of me
>will never have a bf to stich my scars while I'm whimpering and shush me and kiss them after
>will never have a bf who'll encourage me to eat and to defeat anorexia
>will never have a bf who'll cuddle with me under the matress and warm me up with his body
>>5590167
>ex drug addict
>ex
I literally just posted that I'm having a hard time staying sober ;___;
>>5590165
back shoulder area for me
>>5590165
Can I just have my whole body removed
http://strawpoll.me/6606512/
http://strawpoll.me/6606512/
http://strawpoll.me/6606512/
ebin repost
>>5590185
i'm crazy for you. i'll stop freaking out when you stop teasing me.
>dir en grey
i want to hear more of it, ive only heard one oftheir songs.
>>5590171
fffuck why do you have to be in europe
i could be all of that for you
>>5590169
have u guys heard the g.l.o.s.s demo
>>5590159
i would literally kill for moots jawline
>2015+1
> not knowing mootykins is a trans girl
any potential girlfriends in the los angeles area? or the sf bay area?
>>5590174
you're smart,
I'm sure you'll figure something out that won't harm you
>>5590188
Listen to kisou, its good. If you like it listen to vulgar and macabre. Listen to withering to death and if you like that try marrow, uroboros and dum spiro spero.
Idk why you're crazy about me tho. Is it a physical thing?
>>5590189
I hate being stuck in this continent :c
Be my boyfriend please?
>>5590169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GYoleoURBM
>>5590196
Well everyone knows that
>>5590195
moot does cd so....
> Tfw your crush will never sit on your face to wake you up for work.
That booty so fine it's got me fuckin hypnotized.
>>5590202
i wish i had real internet to download this stuff. a whatcd acc would help too because autism but i can dream.
its like 60-40 physical if i have to be honest. you're a qt and its really hard to not think impure things id want to do with you. cuddles is a dream come true. i just hope you even let me in the door. i dont even see how i appeal to you at all as a friend. my personality isnt exactly notable.
>tfw just want to flip a coin to decide if I should do IC or just keep seeing the school counselor, then see a real gender therapist and get hormones
I'm tired of all of the fucking debating in my head, I just want to make a decision
>>5590210
i thought this was just a meme
>>5590205
N-Not a gf Ricky? I look like a boy anyway so I can try to be a bf for you ;~;
>>5590214
> school therapist
School therapists ate actually pretty good
> Tfw bullied so hard I was pretty much forced to see school therapist once a week in high school
> Tfw fucking psychic therapist knew exactly where my self harm spots were without me telling them.
>>5590201
I've been trying to for a very very long time. Part of me probably doesn't even want to get better, the only reason I even stopped taking speed was because my ex was going to leave me.
>>5590217
>meme
how long have you been here?
>>5590167
Sorry anon ;~;
I feel bad now l-lol
>>5590214
Just do informed consent
it's soooo easy
>>5590224
Thankfully our 2d overlord took over
>>5590218
You have gender dysphoria pham. I do too.
The mix of that would probably result in catastrophe.
>>5590214
Informed Consent, you mean? You can do that while seeing the counselor, you know.
If you know want HRT do informed consent. If you're unsure talk it through with the counselor
>>5590223
I've been addicted to and had to quit so many kinds of crap over the years that withdrawal syndrome has become part of my "normal" state. My main concern about SRS is that I'll probably get hooked on morphine again, really... Well, that and having to dilate afterwards. Yuck.
>>5590223
there's so much to do though
if it wasn't for passing and work,
I'd love to go do stuff like music, athletics, hobbies
and remember, you're not a dumb kid anymore
>>5590231
Your gf is cis? .-.
>>5590220
My counselor has been really helpful tbqh, he's the LGBT specialist for the counseling center. I've started to become more comfortable expressing myself how I want thanks to him. I'm just stuck in this awkward stage where I'm all but sure I'm trans, but idk how long I should keep meeting with him before I go see someone who can write me a prescription for HRT after however many visits it takes. But then some days I wanna get it over with and just get the hormones right now so I don't waste anymore time. I can never make up my mind.
anyone else look at their facial profile and question why even go on
I hate my hairline
I hate being trans
fuck this bullshit existance why did life have to do this to me
>>5590239
> I'm all but sure I'm trans
>but idk how long I should keep meeting with him before I go see someone who can write me a prescription for HRT after however many visits it takes
You're literally just making things worse for yourself by waiting when you know what you want
Ok so I'm watching steins;gate. From now on i have a prediction: there will be a trans character in every show i decide to watch, even if i don't know theres a trans character. Because that exact thing has happened to to me with anime more than it hasnt.
>>5590213
I have a what and can invite you.
I think you're funny. And i guess i have a thing for people who have a thing for me.
>>5590242
just get ffs :')
>>5590236
No. She's a repressed ftm.
I wish I was joking.
>>5590242
yes
>>5590245
>that exact thing has happened to to me with anime more than it hasnt
With what shows?
i;;m gay, pet mé
>>5590231
Well I mean I still think you're super cute so why not? ;~;
>tfw no repressed or dysphoric gf
>>5590242
Honestly, I'm finding it harder and harder to find excuses to keep on living that crap life, but it has nothing to do with my looks, and very little with being trans.
>>5590245
anime is cancer regardless. i'd rather marathon tv shows like house but i guess id run out of tv eventtually. i would appreciate the what invite but i wouldnt even be uploading/downloading anything so it's literally a waste.
you really shouldn't say you have a 'thing' for me, even if i know what you really mean, my frail heart can't take it.
>>5590252
calm down.
>>5590242
Only every day
>>5590245
More like traps in every anime t b h
>>5590247
Whattt
Is she ever going to transition and be your boif?
Thread relevant poll!!
http://strawpoll.me/6606705/
>>5590159
me too ;~;
>>5589953
>>5590033
https://clyp.it/fa4yyfun
and now, to avoid mtfg for the rest of the night to avoid my shame
>>5590235
Lately I've lost interest in those things again though. I dunno if it's the seasons, a quarterlife crisis or what, but I've been depressed on and off for the past year. I may not be as dumb as I was then, but I still crave the same poison and same stupid escapism that I always have. I'm a weak person, and I'm never going to get better.
>>5590234
Luckily, SRS patients don't get morphine, although I'm not sure oxy is exactly any better for getting hooked. Withdrawal is the worst though.
who /on hrt/ here?
>>5590258
hnngh. hold me. im melting. sorry i just have awful self-confidence.
>>5590252
*pet pet*
>>5590257
hold me pookie life's a struggle today
>>5590253
>so why not? ;~;
Because I have an abundance of issues? I have severe emotional breakdowns that I don't know how to recover from. A relationshiop with me would be a bad rollercoaster ride, you'd puke during and right after it's over.
Besides you don't know me very well. If you're not willing to be friends with me in the first place what am I supposed to do? ERP? I mean don't take it the wrong way, I like you even though I don't really know you. I just don't know how to deal with this.
>>5590257
I seriously have no idea. Things are bad.
Life is one unfortunate event after the other.
>>5590263
Congratulations kit ^^
>>5590263
Been on and off it since 1996. But this time for a bit more than two years and it should be my last attempt at transition since it's going well.
>>5590265
*purrrrr*
>>5590262
My gf was put on morphine after srs
>>5590268
*pet pet pet*
>>5590263
>>5590268
Ohhhh, you just started? That's pretty rad congrats :3
>>5590242
yes
>tfw witch-face profile
>>5590275
We cancer now.
Kinda always was desu
>>5590260
To be honest, you do have a gay guy voice. More practice?
>>5590276
I'm pretty certain Chett uses it and he'll be removing my cancerous growth in about three months. I'm still feeling like shit from quitting nicotine cold, and I'll have to quit benzos before going to Thailand...
>>5590263
Grats! What did you get?
>>5590260
You sound cute Gem
>>5590276
They must have really liked her, they wouldn't put me on morphine. I guess they had my patient history though and probably knew better.
>>5590263
Congratulations cutie.
>>5590277
T-thanks senpai
desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
>>5590269
:s I don't have much context but you two don't sound v happy together
>>5590291
>d-doesn't count
> TFW FINALLY GONNA HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AGAIN
> TFW GONNA GET BACK ON INJECTIONS AND PROGESTERONE
> TFW PROBABLY GONNA GET A HIGHER DOSAGE AND 10 DAY INJECTION PERIOD
IM FINALLY GONNA GROW TITTIES AGAIN I AM SO HYPE.
>>5590263
congrats Kit!!!
yes
I am
morning
2mg progynova
100mg spiro
evening
1mg finasteride
100mg spiro
+ ten evenings every month
200mg susten (progesterone)
I'm also on efexor 75mg (anti depressant) and take a multivitamin
>>5590295
please don't yell at me. :'(
>>5590289
Anytime desu senpai
>>5590295
>Amy Victoria
>>5590280
being cancers not so bad
>>5590300
please, my ears are very sensitive..
>>5590302
I am just now noticing my trip has been messed up all night, thanks anon.
>>5590284
spiro and progynova
>>5590268
100 spiro 2 progynova
and thanks so much pooks !!!!!
>>5590273
thank you elanna for everything !!
>>5590296
thank you so much sheen
>>5590289
It's true, I can admit as much. It's more because of me though. We're not sexually compatible and I always lust over other people, specifically boys. I started this relationship preHRT and I feel so much regret because my feelings eventually changed but hers didn't. There's no way to pull out without hurthing her and pushing her away from me so I'm gonna suffer in an unhappy relationship for the rest of my life instead.
I wish she was just my best friend.
Nini mtfg
>>5590264
You're silly.
>>5590307
>100 spiro 2 progynova
im sorry they're not letting you transition yet
>>5590313
ninite elanna be good and sleep well
>>5590310
>pic
there was blood pouring from my lip earlier. I wanted to kiss someone so bad
>>5590307
That's a good starting dose :3 I hope the spiro side effects don't get you too badly.
>>5590315
what does that mean? ._.;
>>5590318
I'd have kissed you if you were qt.
>>5590269
Theres nothing to know about me. You're right. Though I do want to be friends with you I don't think I'll ever push to go any further with you anytime soon for a number of reasons. Too many issues and bad memories for myself.
I'll stop (You)ing you so much ;~;
>>5590323
it's on the lower end of doses. might be fine depending though. i would bitch at your doctor for more if i was in your position
>>5590314
sorry. i'll go back to swimming in my daydreams. feelposting is too much aids for me.
>>5590324
everyone tells me I'm very cute but I think they're just being nice...
>>5590313
night elanna
>>5590310
Oh wow you've been dating her since preHRT?
Sucks the situation you're in. I was in a pretty similar one with a girl who was repressed ftm. After two years and a couple failed suicides later I ended it with her. We were so incompatible and I really wanted to find a qt boy, was also jealous she was born a girl lol.
It sucks but if you want to eventually find a partner that matches you you should end it imo
>>5590326
If you ever change your mind you have my steam. I'd still love to be your friend and get to know you better.
It's okay if you don't want to though. I understand :c
>>5590331
I don't think they are just being nice.
>>5590332
I'd honestly rather die than hurt her so I don't see it happening pookie. I dug this hole for myself so I'm going to man up and accept the consequences of my actions.
I'm already suffering one way or another, what's one more reason gonna do?
And in episode 2 my theory proves correct again. Trannies in medoa are following me.
>>5590330
!!!!! D: <
>>5590335
>I don't think they are just being nice.
what makes you think that?
>>5590335
;__; I can't convince you but I hope you come around one day Ricky.
Take care okay?
>>5590337
did u finish steins;gate already ??
>>5590337
whaaat? i'm a dizzy mess. fantasies are fun.
>tfw talking to big dicked boy about fucking and plan when we will next week
>tfw he says he wants to record it and be kinky af and wants me to take selfies with his giant dick in my mouth
>tfw came buckets sexting and talking about how we've fucked in the past
life is good
How do I stop feeling bad about an aspect of my appearance that's unpassably masculine that I can't do anything about at the moment?
>>5590348
There really isn't a cheat for this, just do your best to focus on the good parts.
>>5590350
what if i have no good parts? :')
time to hit the cardio heavy and cry while listening to k-pop
wish me luck in the pursuit of regaining my tiny bod
>>5590353
a short life span. :')
>>5590352
>>5590353
see ok, mystery dick in theory could have been good, but like does it rly matter if mystery dick is big if i'm not really that attracted to him? like sex is more than just a dick, u need everything for it to be perfect. with this other dick i get to be lewd and have great sex and orgasms for sure
>>5590364
ty bb. i used to have a lot more images in general but i deleted essentially my entire hard-drive when i was a depressed retard, except ones i have fond memories of. that's why they all have filenames for the most part.
>oddish will never do all the weird things that pop into your head without context.
i think i just like picturing you and i together in scenarios honestly.
>>5590372
>literally bangs my friend
Well yeah, I hide it well, but it's still there.
>>5590354
>regaining
how does one lose a "body" in the first place?
>>5590366
Depending on how bad it is there's a few different drugs and rogaine that can help. Also wigs if it's really, really bad.
It's a super shitty thing though and I know your pain, I hope you're able to do something for it.
help they're doing lewd things to me in the irc
>>5590369
What weird thing did you think up this time
>>5590374
Nothing else to do until you get surg then
>>5590381
L-like what
I want that t b h
hopefully I wont wake up at 2am
or at all
night mtfg
>finally got around to recording myself sleeping
>as i feared, i talk in my sleep with my man voice
how do i solve this?
>>5590385
you're probably going to laugh at me so i'll just close my eyes, that'll show you. for the fucking record don't blame me for these thoughts, i don't know why they're in my head.
>you will never get home from the beach and have oddish surprise you with a shirt while you're trying to dry off.
>she will never undress you and help you put it on
>she will never help you dry your hair after noticing how hopeless you are
>she will never notice your clumsiness and embarassment and kiss you on the cheek to further humiliate you
>she will never mischievously tease you and call you over to the couch for cuddles
>she will never just cuddle you and watch movies with you and pretend it didn't happen while you sit there with your heart pounding for no fucking reason.
>she will never let you rest your head on her lap like a pillow
>she will never call you a faggot before you go to sleep.
or will she, who knows.
that was probably the most autistic thing i have ever typed in my entire fucking life. can i go kill myself now? all i really want is movies.
>>5590398
sweet dreams. please wake up eventually.
haven't been on mtfg for a few days
did i miss any dank memery
>>5590404
not really, just kayla being her autistic self
>>5590404
Just lots of cutting, guro, and the usual Kayla posting
>>5590404
honestly not really. there was ##shemale at some point that's about it.
>>5590386
>L-like what
u-uhh I was held down and forced upon...
....so pretty much exactly what I wanted
>>5590398
Night sheen. I love you!
>>5590407
what? explain!
>>5590408
Lucky
>>5590408
shit that never happened.
>>5590413
kayla was an idiot and accidentally leaked her old trip, pic related.
>>5590415
that would be her fucking tripcode, lel
>>5590415
>accidentally
Please, she's done that about a dozen times so far
>>5590402
>she will never call you a faggot as you fall asleep
I definitely will
>>5590426
hhehehhhh. i think i might actually die of embarassment right now. i wish fatigue was as a valid excuse for saying questionable things. smother me.
>>5590415
This is like the 5th time she's done that.
1st time shame on you
2nd time shame on me
...
5th time it's for attention
>>5590437
you can't just ask me to recall memes in a pile of shit and expect me to pull out pure gold. that was the most eventful thing to happen regardless of whether it has happened before.
>>5590443
there's the sheen passed away because reason meme
>>5590448
>tfw nobody will ever make jokes about you passing away when you actually will soon.
>>5590437
Kayla has admitted she trolls mtfg for keks
>tfw
I hate this game
>>5590462
wat is
>>5590464
Diablo 3
>>5590467
Secondary
Gain up to 25–30% increased movement speed based on amount of Life missing.
LOL. that sounds absolutely worthless. i am so sorry.
>>5590468
someone post the one where she looks like an 80s valley girl
>>5590450
Omg that's dark, I'm secretly glad that if we adopt that our babies will be well fed tho
>>5590462
Try 4 Iceclimbers :^)
Every class used to use it now it's just a shitty forgotten soul
>>5590468
Trip on Kayla
>>5590159
The good old days
>On hrt
>Still weirdly paranoid I'm getting more masculine
I blame lainanon for planting these fears in my mind.
>>5590487
Enjoy getting fat too
>>5590489
Why would I get fat?
>>5590478
we should adopt six babies and name the girls after the best trips here
>>5590500
Which are?
>>5590508
1.Anonymous
2.Anonymous
3.Anonymous
4.Anonymous
5.Anonymous
6.Anonymous
>>5590498
High E and low T
>>5590510
>not in rememberance of retired trips
Smh
>>5590482
bring snacks back
>tfw used to be a gross sweaty overweight neckbeard
>tfw 10 stone femboy with tits now
good feel, good feel
So I saw the new Star Wars movie
Pretty good desu
>>5590378
i spent a year in repression and made upper body manly man gains that i now must sacrifice to zyzz's spirit to gain cutemortality
>>5590548
I haven't
Vote for tump
>>5590576
Unstumpable
> Tfw been in bed 3 hours and haven't fallen asleep
Kill me desu
i wish i was this sexy and had a time traveling heretic crusader bf
>>5590579
iktf
literally every night this week. im only up rn because i couldnt lose consciousness after 4 hours
I LIKE CUM
>>5590587
not as much as I do
>>5590578
kek.
>Trans Girl
>Girl
>>5590592
i doubt that
i eat cum like candy
hi
thred dead
anyone wanna talk about feet?
Dead thread
>>5590604
yeah
i want to fuck feet and have my feet fucked
>>5590610
not as much as I do
>>5590610
iktf
>>5590604
Feet are pretty nice desu
Ok so i watched a shitload of steins;gate and it like really fucking depressed me. No movie or show I've ever seen has dealt with the horrors of time travel so well in my opinion
>>5590604
Post soles
>>5590169
https://atomnation.bandcamp.com/track/isomethyl
>open email from okc
>hello "girlname" you have 220 unread messages
>it's mostly hot dudes
>suddenly feel horny
>remember I have a gf
>>5590604
sure, who wants their dick stepped on
>>5590604
Why are so many transgirls foot fetishists?
>>5590621
its not good to be depressed...
>>5590637
are they? i thought that was the "chasers" who were.
>>5590634
damnit ricky you're making me wanna open mine
anyone wanna talk about butt?
>>5590642
sure, what about it?
>>5590641
>you open your mail
>can't wait for all these hot guys
>only 2 indians and a hon
D-Damn chasers
>>5590641
you should tb-h
especially if you're single
I'd be out getting dick rn if I was
>>5590634
Ricky do you like girls o.o
>>5590643
What is yours like?
>>5590645
>indians
legit just checked and i had 8 mails from pajeets
>>5590650
DESIGNATED
>>5590634
i hate knowing people who can pick from a pool of 10/10s because i'm a 5 :l
>>5590652
Always remember, a dick is a dick
Nothing of value remains in any of these threads anymore
>>5590647
I thought I saw you say you werent interested in guys at all
>tfw you will never be attractive enough to have actually hot people lining up for you
>go to gameshop
>guy wants to play xwing
>ask if he'll teach me
>says his gf is texting
>"she's worried I'm going to get hit on"
>"I'll tell her there are no girls here"
>tell him "I'm trans"
>"does that count?" He asks
>"not really"
;-;
>>5590655
There's no such thing as not interested in dick
>>5590653
don't be a dick
>>5590647
silly ricky
you only got 220 messages because you're hot
everyone else here is beneath you
>>5590648
I wish I could answer no to that question.
>>5590652
>10/10s
let's not kid ourselves
they are all falling for angled pics
>>5590655
I was probably lying. Sorry pham, I'm really sexually confused.
but yeah basically this
>>5590658
>>5590657
SIK BURN
>>5590658
0% interested in getting a std infected meat pole slammed into a hole that won't even get me off
>>5590664
What about hot trannies o.o
who's ##downforgirldick?
>>5590649
it's big and shapely for a man ass. got them ass dimples though so i'm hoping after being on hrt for long enough that'll plump out.
i think it has a lot of potential. my thighs are pretty built as well, but again i need more girlfat to smoothe over the manly muscle shape.
the only thing in that area i don't have potential in is the width of my hips. the size profile will always be more flattering than head-on, although i'm planning on waist training to give the illusion of hips.
so yeah i think i have potential.
>>5590654
Im just here in case someone posts butt pics
>>5590666
well shit
>>5590670
ask ricky
>>5590666
That's just because you can't pass even if your life depended on it
>>5590673
ricky has no butt. shes all face
Post butt ricky
>>5590662
No one here is beneath me.
I'm ugly irl.
>>5590667
I'd probably fuck an mtf but it would be like being with a girl. They can't lock and load if you catch my drift.
>>5590677
pic related
>>5590677
>no butt
>humans have asses
ok
>>5590680
>They can't lock and load if you catch my drift.
you haven't met an mtf that actually still wants to use their cock
>>5590680
you swing between sexuality a lot
>>5590668
Thats hot
Whats your bp color?
god guys youre making me really horny
i need my dick sucked and my feet fucked now
>>5590679
You asked for flat bum pham
https://unsee.
cc/zotebigu/
>>5590683
I haven't met an mtf period.
>>5590684
I am more attracted to guys for their body and to girls because of personality.
I wish I wasn't into girls at all tho. It's only caused trouble for me so far.
>>5590692
Do you like short guys?
https://
unsee.cc
/petisabu/
Pre hrt. Can I get some opinions? Should I just stop wasting my time and start lifting?
>>5590688
-______-
>>5590696
would boyfriend/10
>>5590692
nice butte
>>5590634
how do you get so many messages?
i get almost none
>>5590696
you're coming from a better starting place than a lot of us. you've got mad shoulders like me.
i'd imagine with hrt and a little ffs you wouldn't just pass, but pass as pretty too.
>>5590694
As long as you are not way shorter than me.
But hey, beggars can't be chosers.
>>5590703
ty
it's okay for a boy butt
>>5590704
I upload angled pics and confuse straight guys with photo manipulation
>>5590159
Who's moot? Some neckbeard idol of yours?
>>5590697
Answer me you slut
>>5590668
I have a decent butt and hips but lots of scars and marks and stuff, it's really annoying cause they'll never go away
>>5590708
>As long as you are not way shorter than me.
this is why i know i cant live as a man and if i dont pass im going to off myself :X
>>5590711
Nothing says womanhood like stretch marks and cottage cheese
>>5590711
>lots of scars
show pls
>>5590713
Anything below 6'5 is a manlet and I doubt most MtFs would date guys shorter than that
>>5590704
Do you say your trans in your profile? Even my ugly cis friends get a ton of messages
>>5590711
Tanning is your friend. Also cocoa butter.
>>5590711
how bad are the scars? i have hip stretch marks from rapid weightloss but they're barely visible compared to my keloid cuts. if there's any reddening, i heard you can get them lasered to remove some of the discolouration. if they're inflamed, steroidal injections.if they're just flat, skin-tone stretch marks seriously don't worry, it's a really common thing.
>>5590710
fuck off you sad cunt i'll smash your head in
>>5590713
Short girls are super qt so it's okay.
I'm 5'8 or uh in yuro standards 1,73 cm
>>5590712
yeah you should tb-h pham
it's an innocent lie anyway
>>5590704
iktf, living in a big city would be a start probably.
