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First for post butts!
do you think i'm pretty mtfg?
>>5237841
Post yours
>>5237845
yes.
>>5237845
not when you act like this
>>5237852
I don't think you're pretty
>>5237848
Nah, its not impressive enough.
me either
>>5237860
That hasn't stopped people before
>tfw handholdless kissless virgin
>tfw soon wont be handholdless
>>5237848
hey jormie
is midori your favorite liqueur?
>>5237837
http://strawpoll.me/6020024
http://strawpoll.me/6020024
http://strawpoll.me/6020024
>>5237873
post face?
>>5237877
i picked one because i only want to give oral to a boy who i'll spend the rest of eternity with
i want to have a girlboyfriend : s but they keep slithering away ;~;
>>5237878
Oh ok, I just asked cause I remember you had some bottles. I've never had it but it seems tasty
Do you just drink it straight or?
>>5237877
None desu
>>5237890
How many boobies can you suck in one sitting?
>>5237888
Its a lot better with a mixer like lemonade or apple-flavored mineral water. Its not that bad straight, better than other liqueurs, but mixing it improves it 200%
>>5237886
>i want to have a girlboyfriend : s
Me too...wait what?
Well, I can never post another pic here, a 17 year old ftm boy told me he saw my butt, I need to reevaluate my life choices
>>5237897
i saw your butt too, why doesn't it bother you unless it's a 17 y.o. ftm?
>>5237886
what a cute snek
>>5237893
When you say lemonade you mean like lemon-lime flavored soft drink right?
Sounds nice, I think I'll get some for thanksgiving, will definitely mix it then. Cheers.
>>5237878
>You're not shell
Maybe it's me, maybe it isn't. I guess we'll never know ;)
post memes
>>5237900
Because he's an irl friend o///o
>>5237895
>>5237901
Snake girlboyfriend is only girlboyfriend for me it seems ;_;
You dont get too much respect from others in the real world. To you, this whole forum thing is great! The net allows you to be a cool person and maybe even a top boss.
Now you can attempt to gain respect from others in the virtual world. I would summarize the following: You're not very confident. You are worried about being judged. You can't go into a bar and leave with the hottest person. People don't notice you. The internet and your computer have become your true friends. You masturbate a lot. If you have a girlfriend or boyfriend, they really despise you, but dont tell you . You're not athletic, your credit score is below 700 and you still thin you are cool in your own mind.
>>5237877
Depends on the guys I guess. Probably only two. Sometime if the guy lasts a long time my mouth and jaw getting sore making one cum. I'd probably get pretty bored due to how uncomfortable it was after 2. Maybe I just need better technique but I think I'm pretty good @ head. Also your poll excited my gt and I am now T R I G G E R E D. Pls check privilege.
>>5237906
>>5237877
>http://strawpoll.me/6020024
in one sitting?? what if i'm kneeling??
>>5237906
audio porn < literature
weaponry is for boys
Majoras mask is SHIT. Deal with it. Zelda is a bad franchise and nintendo has never done a good game except the mother series
Korra is inferior to the original series
contrabass saxophone rarely even sounds all that good, even if it's kinda a cute novelty
Drugs are amazing
9/10, shit taste
>>5237917
>marking trans instead of female
>>5237912
This sounded like me until it got to the credit score
>>5237924
seriously. i like snakes, almost as much as i like spiders. idk how to categorize my feelings for spiders. it's somewhere on this scale of non-sexual but attraction?
>>5237924
ty i love snekks and i want one so i can call it jasmine : 3
>>5237922
>audio porn < literature
They're unrelated, family.
>Majoras mask is SHIT
all opinions rendered invalid
>korra is inferior to the original serious
You're just trying to shitpost at this point.
>tfw you hatched a great shitposting plan but don't know when to implement it
Has nothing to do with you fucking freaks but im just posting just to post.
>>5237923
>Y-you wouldn't drop trip, w-would you?
No, never.
>>5237929
do it snakes are awesome. i have 5 and want more desu
>>5237929
hissss...meet isssabelle the sssnek
alright, which one of you bozos wrote this?
>>5237232
>>5237926
lol
>>5237922
>Zelda is a bad franchise
you're entitled to this shitty opinion.
>>5237938
Is that yours? Columbian boa?
>>5237937
f-five?!? c-can you tell me more about them??
>>5237909
WOW
>tfw the only people I know who are likely to ever browse 4chan are friends I'm already out to
thank fuck for that
>>5237938
omg its beautiful!!! xD i think i want little snekks tho : s
>>5237877
depends if you count facefucking
will i ever pass?
>>5237943
no it's my friends ssnek, She's very friendly and likes slithering on your face and adventures
>>5237950
why do you suck
>egoraptor still hasnt transitioned
ugh
>>5237595
Hmm yes this is definitely how I picture me trying to go legit going down
No russian required in this UKIPy area
>>5237950
Are you one of those that considers those hentai tier manga "Literature" or do you mean that fanfic bs?
>>5237944
yup i have 5 lol. but i do have plans to get more soon! 2 pairs of green tree pythons and 1 eastern indigo. they are literally my life.
>>5237954
Is she still repressing? I'm p sure it's the chins holding her back, those fuckers are here to stay.
>>5237554
>when I bought up laser hair removal/electroylsis she asked if I would like some sessions as a christmas gift (spoiler: yes)
aaaand I'm crying, nice
congrats on having an awesome family anon
>>5237957
I mean erotic literature. neither of what you said fit
>>5237949
hey george
I realize some of the most important trips were skipped over last time so Ive updated the roster :^) let me know what you think!
>>5237973
can you remove me please
>>5237973
>important
in the scope of what? and why?
>>5237973
Am I crazy for thinking rawr has the best looking picture on there?
>>5237977
plant is cute
>>5237973
>can't have pictures on here
>someone adds my pic
Idk why you'd add a ftm like me to it desu senpai
>>5237973
youre doing gods work anon
>>5237973
am i a dead trip
actually nvm
>>5237973
breaking my own rule to say goddamn at least use an up-to-date pic of my manly face
I'll delete this after it's changed
>>5237982
I thought hers and edies were tbhfam
>>5237982
She's okay right. Give her 3-4 years and she will be very hot.
>>5237977
Where'd you get those sweet glasses?
>>5237977
The sake of faggotry
>>5237989
u liked your own picture the most? huh?
>>5237990
I'd say plant is pretty cute desu
cute enough to be my pretend girlfriend I'd say
>>5237973
You forgot the most important trip!
>>5237973
faye you talked a lot of shit to me in another thread and i see that you look like a fucking chimpanzee so fuck you!!!!
also, kek, found this on facebook
I come from such a shithole
>>5237979
She's cute, she's in the dark, and she's not using a cellphone cam, so yah that's a good combo
>>5237989
how long hrt?
>>5237989
how long hrt ?!
>>5237996
Heh nice one :8)
>>5237994
N-no I meant to respond to the post above you. Rawr and edie had the best pics >>5237979
>>5237991
Bonlook.com I think they're called Allure/Black
>>5238003
1y4m!
>>5237998
Salt from your tears made you blind senpai
>>5237922
>Majoras mask is SHIT. Deal with it. Zelda is a bad franchise and nintendo has never done a good game except the mother series
holy shit are you me
>>5237973
please use this from now on thank you
>>5238008
Thanks for the info!
>>5237973
>dodged another yearbook photo
>>5238011
No use this one
>>5238014
Wow, try harder, moron.
Good morning /mtfg9k/ doing anything fun today?
>>5238016
I know this isn't a competition
but jormy wins this round :3
>>5238012
Why bothering asking where she got those glasses? Not like your hon ass will be able to pull it off desu
>>5238010
I would say you miss how timeless orcana and mask are, you aren't putting out a remake of any other game from that year that anyone would want to buy (other then boulders gate 2 because people who want to play that are 60) Diablo 2, desu ex, and Alice were good at the time, but I've tried to play them all like 5 years ago and even then the quest structure and interface were complete trash and antiquated.
>>5238016
awoo!
>>5238017
Trip on Faye, the chimp does look like you.
>>5238022
>desu ex
ilu Faye
>>5237950
>zelda
>bad
Pick one
>>5237996
Haha I like how anons are still bitter ;)
>>5238021
>implying I can pull off Malcolm X glasses or the Librarian
>>5238027
Zelda. If I can't have OoT then what is left for me?
>>5238022
I didn't even think majoras mask was good at the time, and deus ex is a million times better today even with the blocky graphics. Also the topic becomes more relevant every passing day.
And I played it a month or two ago in anticipation of the new one and enjoyed it a lot. Diablo 2 was always over-rated, and alice was never considered an all-time classic.
also I don't actually think it aged that well, lots of the mechanics are antiquated.
>>5238029
O///o
>>5238029
I'll pick bad. Even the inherent essence/meaning of negativity has to be better than picking zelda
>>5238032
Do you have a spot for Malcolm X on the yearbook Faye?
>>5238031
Fair
i wish i had a bf
>>5238036
totally subjective though, but my opinion is the most important one.
>>5238037
>tfw no bf to pat you on the head
>>5238040
>tfw no bf to snuggle under an electric blanket during a blizzardy winter day
>>5238041
Get a fucking life hongie
>>5238043
Lol so salty ;)
>>5238041
Are you two still fucking at this? One of you needs to get over it and the other needs to get over themself.
Trip on mooff
>>5238042
>tfw no bf to fall asleep into and wake up to
>>5238037
men will just leave you for a real girl, if not he is a faggot and not a real man. transbians are better.
>>5238043
I'm at work dude.
Quit being retarded son
>>5238043
idk what angie has to do with this. she doesn't know who I am.
>>5237911
This snek makes me hungy for soft serve froyo
>>5238049
Transbians can't do this and bf can
>>5238055
>that gif
literally the one i was going to put in my last post
>>5238049
but i want to be picked up and hugged and feel protected and safe in the arms of a boy
it just doesn't work the same unless it's a boy
>>5238055
It's because of the image.jpg and how people blame me because they think I save pics of trips.
People don't realise anyone can do that
ah jeez one of my favourite stand-up comedians turns out to be a right-wing cunt
I'd better hear some good news at the finance office today
holy crap /mtfg/ I have a story for you all
>got a phone, but nobody ever calls me
>ever since saturday it's been constantly ringing - people are seeking some woman
>at first I'm just weirded out,but then I get suspicious. it's always men, and some of them are surprisingly...friendly. Well mannered even. Nobody is that nice to me IRL
>one particularly memorable guy had the best baritone voice ever, with sweet timbre like honey and words so gentle
>I could hear reluctance in his voice when I say goodbye after telling him it's the wrong number. I'm almost tempted to keep talking to him - okay, super tempted.
>He's a good man, I can tell, even through a short call
>later it turns out the woman people are seeking wants a sex partner but she's also a masseur/whore
>some people ask me how much, without introduction, some just say they are calling about the ad.
>not sure at first whether they're bisexual or something, because my voice is pretty gender neutral- I'm still in boymode
>though when I'm surprised or scared it goes high enough easily to pass for a womans' - on the phone at least
>after some googling I find out that the woman in question has almost the same number than me, she made a typo in her ad, so I'm recieving her calls
>I write to the website to correct it.
>They do. The calls slowly stop. I feel....alone. Lonely even. It's weird, being jealous of a whore.
>Still, I wish I had started talking to the man with the honey voice. Then had a fleeting thought about becoming a whore. Kept playing with the idea.
>in the end decided against it, because I'm terrified. But I kinda wish I knew what it feels like when somebody touches you affectionately, and whispers gentle things in your ear with a kind voice
Just how fucked up am I in the head, on a scale of 1 to batshit insane?
>>5238058
That's a pretty great feeling, don't give up
>>5238062
Between 3 and 6 desu
>>5238055
I did that yesterday
>>5238055
yeah but what about your gt dangling around or in this case rubbed up against his sixpack? no real man would be into that.
>>5238062
>>5238065
I'd put anon at a solid 4. Lots of men hook up with prostitutes. Was the woman in the ad MtF?
>whore
They're called callgirls. Have some espect fo the sex workers of the world
>>5238069
Sh-shut up Gaye ; ~ ;
>>5238070
Not going to be a real in the near future. Besides shameless hooking up is shameless
Which trip would you stab in the throat?
Its a tie between oddish and booger
>mfw my booblets are already so pointy they're visible through t-shirts
fuck fuck fuck this was not a part of the plan
they don't look like moobs
what do I tell my parents
[spoiler]dysphoria-wise it feels so fuckin good though, though not really any pain yet??? weird[/spoiler]
>>5238070
>>5238071
i can dream, can't i?
>>5238072
*respect
I'm ready to fight crime!
>>5238080
this is why I voted sheen the most most twice. fucking lol
>>5238080
Oh, what the fuck?
>>5238080
sheen save me!
>>5238087
I think dark circles are hot... am I the only one?
>>5238072
>Have some respect fo the sex workers of the world
>>5238087
erm not sure ;~;
>>5238089
Idk but I have no intention to do anything about mine
>>5238089
Nope, I'm there too a bit.
>>5238091
piss off angie
>>5238091
no problem these ear studs are silver, with continued exposure to silver I will eventually perish!
>>5238098
I wasn't talking about you hon, I mean senpai.
>>5238107
I'm still waiting for the communist whore revolution
I just want to see the phrase "Sex Workers of the World Unite!" in a political pamphlet
goodnight mtfg
>>5238089
mine are too dark
they don't let light escape.
>>5238104
hah :)
I'm actually on a diet, doing shakes atm.
I've lost 12kg/26lbs in little over a month
going back on keto on monday.
>tfw really addicted to Dark Souls
First playthrough, this game is amazing omg
>>5238111
awesome
I'm getting down close to where I was before summer, thank fuck
if it wasn't for the burgers I'd probably already be there kek
>>5238111
Why don't you have eyelashes?
>browsing older threads
>come across this
>want to relate but can't
anyone here this ugly? can we talk about it? i want to know what's going on in there.
>>5238114
double-doubles and large feels ruined me. I should have been hungover less this summer
>>5238117
I do, its just my webcam sucks
>>5238122
Those are some serious bro-tier eyelashes senpai
>>5238122
Oh
They're very... Light
>>5238119
>anyone here this ugly?
Definitely.
>can we talk about it?
What is there to talk about?
>>>/r9k/24305313
>>5238126
i want to know how insecure you are about how you look and how ugly you think you are.
>>5238124
yep, I had even less eyelashes until I started hrt... I used to have really pretty eyelashed and eyebrows but I'm a hon now so...
>>5238125
yep...
literally the manliest hon here.
>>5238129
>i want to know how insecure you are about how you look
Very.
>and how ugly you think you are.
Very.
There, now we're done.
>>5238130
>literally the manliest hon here.
Can you kick angie's ass for us?
>>5238132
If you were truly ugly you'd have lots to talk about and how it impacts your every day life. You're just a shit troll who is not even ugly. Stop wasting my time.
>>5238130
>literally the manliest hon here.
but thats me
>>5238076
Myself
>>5238134
You are a goddamn retard.
>>5238133
but I like angie
>>5238136
nope
>>5238138
Wow, that's a bit rude of you to say isn't it? I asked someone who wanted to talk about their miserable ugly life because unlike you I am a nice person and I like to help people by listening to their problems. Then you come along with your very limited brain, give me one word answers and call me a retard? I don't think so. You are the fucking stupid one. Fuck right off faggot.
Sheens such a fucking loser lmao
Kill yourself
But you're still unironically prettier than noelle no joke
At least you try
>>5238142
trip on feefs
>>5238142
once noelle has had laser and some time on hrt she will be okay
I am never going to be okay, but yes... I have to try my hardest to look this shit
I can't be bothered but you can ask caddy for the skype log explaining why I am insane due to my childhood and dysphoria (if I'm even trans and not just plain insane)
anyways, I'm off to bed like I said I was twenty minutes ago.
nn.
>>5238145
Autism: The Post
reminder transbian relationships are better with more depth, stability and understanding.
>>5238148
>>5238149
Noice
>>5238150
I like this new mehme
>>5238150
hahahehahehe
With pricing for FFS, is it normally a set price or does it vary depending on what you have done? like if you get rhinoplastey before FFS will the FFS cost less than it would have otherwise
>>5238150
>depth
>understanding
>stability
Totally not just pure infatuation. Which btw is absolutely unstable and not deep at all
>tfw bi with higher preference for girls but today I can't keep my mind off dick and am way more horny than usual.
Feeling lewd is horrible.
>>5238175
go stroke your penis little boy, im sure that'll make you feel better
>>5238180
>boy
rewd.
>>5238180
if you have a benis then you're a boy whats so hard to understand about that? thats like a girl with no dick demanding she is a man
>>5238175
Why not feel nothing else? It can be this way all the time
I want to kiss Plant [spoiler]on the lips.[/spoiler]
>>5238194
Plant i swear i haven't seen you before!
anyways how was ur day?
I dunno how I feel about my daddy issues/complex interacting with shaun in fallout 4
>>5238208
fuck shaun, me and danse are gonna pound his little [spoiler]institute[/spoiler]ass into the next century.
reposting in active thread
is it normal to start lusting for cock randomly out of nowhere when the past year has basically been me being straight up a lesbian
what gives
>>5238212
oops wrong name
>>5238211
I'd never betray my own son.
>>5238213
im sorta new i guess i'm jelly ur pretty cute!
What's your name?
Dudes literally 6ft tall with broad as fuck shoulders. Not to mention his ugly as fuck steve buscemi looking face and he can't even type correctly. He's just an autistic straight man that watched too many animes.
>>5238218
I am Plant
>>5238220
Fuck off Rawr. Wasn't doxxing her yesterday enough, you stupid fucking retard?
>>5238223
Well nice to meet you groot v.2 i'm Lauren
What type of glasses are they they look dope
>>5238234
oh cool i think they suit your face!
i should really get my eyes checked
You play any vidya?
>>5238234
I'm not Rawr. But SHE already had doxxed 5 people before and posted pictures of ufufu at work like the creepy little spaz SHE is.
>>5238211
danse reminds me of buzz lightyear for some reason
>computer professor sends out email regarding unsatisfactory grades on the last test and offers optional after class quiz to reclaim 5 points for people who got less than 75
>I got a 98
Seriously this was the easiest test of the year it was on binary search trees
If there's an "unsatisfactory" number of people failing a test with a question like "Each node of a Red/Black Tree is either colored ___ or ___" something is wrong with my classmates
>>5238242
Is black and red acceptable or am I reversing some polarity somehow o.o
To toss all guy clothes away or not?
Atleast would be forced to shop for nice things instead of using super old rugs e_e
>>5238242
>tfw 98 is high grades in the us
>tfw in uk above 70 is considered damn impressive and above 80 is god tier
fucking education systems
>>5238246
Fuck off rawr.
>>5238243
Black and red would actually be more correct since the first node is always black
>>5238247
I mean if you're only expected to get 70% of questions on your test correct that either says something about the tests or the students
>>5238249
I have accended. Lol eh so are you going to do it anyway for the extra credit? Or is it only for the fail train?
>>5238255
Is the correct answer "blacks"?
Because there's only one in the class
>>5238254
If you're expected to get 100% of the questions right then theres no way of distinguishing talented students with average ones
>>5238255
I don't listen to music tho ;~;
What do you listen too?
>>5238257
It's a lifeline for the fail train, I wish I could get extra points
tfw your CAPTCHA:STREET NAMES has a picture of an interrsection in your home town
>>5238259
That was bold. No though.
>>5238266
U.S. schools, where my business professor needed me to help with the required software installations for the entire class.
dota related question:
how can i make it so that i never have to play with non-english players ever again? i don't really give a shit if other people play dota and shit but i can't communicate with mexican invaders trying to fuck with my US UNITED STATES server. they over ping and don't know how to play on a team, which is why their soccer team is such fucking trash. and they don't even have a football team.
>>5238247
I really should just leave uni, my grades are terrible
>>5238261
In other words, tests should be testing
>>5238272
Donald Trump, you know he's only against immigration because of improper laning a noob Ashe players
>>5238261
Good answer
I don't believe the university is particularly interested in the exceptional students (not that I'm an exceptional student, I skip homework and sometimes fuck up on tests) in that they want everyone above a certain threshold to pass and don't appear to have any more advanced programs for those who understand better than others
>>5238272
>which is why their soccer team is such fucking trash. and they don't even have a football team.
But soccer is called football everywhere but the United states, so they do have a football team or am I missing something?
>>5238268
What's great is not only are the tests geared for people who are just competent at best, but they get pissed if you learn ahead of the class.
>>5238272
peru is the greatest nation on earth
this is kind of a personal bloggy post so feel free to ignore me, just sharing cause i'm going through the feels rn etc
i don't think i realized like how completely depressed i've been since the ex split thing until like...tonight. i've been getting more into the swings of things again in my life like dating in more of a healthy way, doing things i enjoy more, pacing myself with work and also being motivated to do well for myself and to move to portland etc but meanwhile my apartment looked like an episode of hoarders, whenever my ex would text me my heart would drop, and i've had a totally erratic sleep schedule. i've gained weight and looked worse and taken pictures less and been more unhappy and i think it's been because of how sad i've been that i lost my ex for the 50th time and i haven't been able to admit that i've been miserable without him and i hadn't really forgiven myself for falling for him again. i've been like punishing myself ever since.
it didn't fully hit me till i looked at old pics like how much i've stopped taking care of myself and loving myself and it all started when my ex and i split again in may. it's been like a downward spiral of non-commitment, depression, and laziness. never letting anyone close and living in this lil depression cocoon. i'm getting better now tho. cleaned my apartment and did my skincare stuff and am talking to nice boys and i'm actually like ... being present in my own life.
but ya. kind of sad that i've been so distant towards myself for months and i'll prob be crying for awhile today about everything but at least things are getting lots better in my personal life outside of work and dick and i'm improving. so ya ok ty for letting me blog sorry bye
>>5238283
Yeah the book packaged with the software was the wrong version too. Pretty sure I got my education from materials that fell out the back of a truck.
>>5238286
go cry in real life you dumb pouty lipped nigger looking bitch
https://clyp.it/hw1gzgwu
>>5238286
I feel the shit posts coming.
>>5238295
>pouty lipped
yall always find ways to compliment me even when ur mad at me ty ily
>>5238296
; 3;
i'm glad i have ur #
>>5238286
>when edie gives you an honest subtle wake up call
>>5238296
>https://clyp.it/hw1gzgwu
This. Rawr is a fucking crazy bitch and needs to get a life.
hi mtfg i'm really happy someone is really wonderful and wants to spend time with me and everything
I asked this last night, but I was wondering if maybe I could get a few more opinions idek
but is it a bad idea to send my parents a present for the holidays, considering we haven't spoken since I got kicked out last year??
>tfw you're turning someone transbian
>>5238306
At best I'd send a card but it isn't a bad idea
>>5238286
How often do you cry? I thought you were dead inside. Also losing someone for the 50th time should never happen in the first place. How toxic is that? Don't be stupid.
>>5238296
b-bye
>>5238306
First off, how sweet of you to be the adult in this relationship. What present did you have in mind?
hey hi hey
>>5238306
Shits getting heavy, I dunno. I know for my situation, when they do find out I'll be in the same boat. I'm pretty sure I'd cut them from me if they can't accept me, that being said if it makes you feel good for trying then there's no reason not to. Drop it off at the door or something so you don't have to deal with any fallout just in case?
>>5238309
>Also losing someone for the 50th time should never happen in the first place.
I believe that was hyperbole, or dollface is crazier than anyone suspected
>>5238306
Well the worst thing that could happen is they don't care about the gift because they haven't gotten over you being trans still right? Unless its like a serious financial burden for you I would send them something just to find out. If they still don't want you to be part of their lives then that's their loss.
>>5238316
For the sake of her sanity I also hope it was hyperbole. But any number more than once is really insane under conventional dating circumstances.
>>5238300
if you're going through anything similar i'm sorry because i don't think i realized how much it's been fucking up my life as it is, and it's shitty to go through ;c but half the reason i wanted to talk about it was because i think it should be okay to admit you're letting yourself down or that you're unhappy. like my apartment and my general headspace has been so fucked up. literally hoarders episode until now lmao. i think admitting that tho was what has made a 180 for me lately and has helped me the most to like actually be a friend to myself and take care of myself. it just makes me upset and like cry because i've let it go on so long and really slacked on my well being and mental health etc but it's ok to feel sad sometimes.
>>5238309
i don't cry often. well, ever. the only times i cry are when i'm watching something depressing af like grey's anatomy back in the day or when i lost my ex. that's seriously it. of course it's been toxic!! half the reason i've probably kept in touch with him when he reaches out (which he does constantly) is because i know it's bad for me and i thought i deserve that. it's never mattered to me how other people think of me but i have hated and not liked me and that's what's the worst part of it. but hey!! at least i'm getting better idk. i'm not gonna beat myself up anymore.
>>5238306
i would do it. they'll prob feel worse about kicking you out whilst you feel good for being an adult. win-win imo
>>5238316
it was a hyperbole loll. it was actually like the third time tho...
>>5238312
my family is a bunch of Boston Red Sox fans, so since I live right outside of Boston, I was thinking of sending them a Red Sox ornament or something, or whatever
>>5238314
>>5238318
>>5238320
mostly my feelings are, I don't WANT to harbor any resentment anymore, because I'm getting really tired of carrying this grudge. but the fact is, it was only a year ago that everything happened, and as much as I don't want to be, I'm still bitter and angry over how they treated me
I'm just not totally sure if it's a good idea for me to try to "force" myself to feel better about this when I don't
>>5238320
It's so common to go back and forth. I love saying if never be that kind of person, and then boom, I'm in an abusive relationship and I feel like I deserve it so I let it drag out. It's weird that it happens and stupid to everyone watching it happen
>meet up with cute guy for a first date
>he takes me to a fancy restaurant
>he ends up talking nonstop about himself and actually interrupts my stories to talk about his own experiences
>can't leave fast enough
bluuugh dating sucks.
how was your last date, /mtfg/?
>>5238322
Why waste time trying to repair what cant be fixed, this is gonna sound blunt but if your parents havent made an effort in over a year to get over themselves and speak to you then they really dont give a fuck.
Personally i would just keep looking after number one and move forward in life
>>5238324
Ummm end up fucking her in the woods. Fun times.
>>5238324
>last date
does netflix and chill count as a date?
cos he played with my breasts, we kissed a little and a little lewditiy happened
>>5238322
i mean if you're not getting them a big gift i think it'd be fine. maybe it would help you let go of the grudge more.
>>5238323
yaa i know sigh. when i look back on it i feel like i don't even know why i allowed him to keep jerking me around and treating me so shitty but idk, i love him so i let it happen. but now i'm starting to get back to my old self and i love me more than him so in time i hope i'll move on properly and be happy.
>>5238324
my last date was fun! lasted all day. i didn't sleep the night before tho and felt like i wanted to die half the time. he was still sweet and stuff despite this so it could have been worse lol
>>5238322
Yeah that'd be nice of you to send them something. I wouldn't spend more than $50 if I were you. ;)
Were you going to write them a card or a letter along with this Red Sox ornament? What are you going to say? "Merry Christmas! Luv, Moko"?
>>5238322
>I'm just not totally sure if it's a good idea for me to try to "force" myself to feel better about this when I don't
I don't think buying them a Christmas gift is "forcing" anything. Sometimes you have to be proactive to get over grudges. Sending them a gift should make you feel better because you're "being the bigger person" or however that expression goes, and it'll let you and your parents get some closure.
>>5238296
Look who doesn't have a sense of humor. You'll be back before next week hon.
>>5238328
>virgins gets groped for the first time
>brags about it for days
Nigga please, more of us lost that shit when we were 14.
>>5238320
Definitely not the same thing as you but I'm glad you're working through it. Don't be sorry you told me what I needed to hear
>>5238336
eh, im just pleased i actually got the courage to fucking do it. and hows it bragging when answering an honest question?
also losing it at 14 is just early as hell.
>>5238324
>going on formal first dates
>not meeting for coffee so you can leave at any time
>>5238324
if I were to go on a date with a guy, I would want to do my best to tease him a lot, sexually and otherwise, and bully him and make him cry and go home alone
this sounds like a fun time to me
>>5238325
I mean, yeah they haven't even bothered to get in contact with me. I don't think any of them give a shit how I'm doing these days. so I dunno, maybe I don't want to be the bigger person yet. hell, I wouldn't even know what name to put on the package, they know my new name, but obviously they don't accept it and would get mad if they saw it on a package
>>5238336
do you get mad at people for being happy about stuff? i do too, we should do it together sometime
going through tons of breakups is probably the most grueling thing ever
every single one piles up and eventually you have like a bunch of skeletons in your closet
im pretty thankful my brain is fucked up and i forcefully forget everything about my ex's or i dont know how i'd even function
>>5238339
>losing it at 14 is just early as hell.
We looked pretty from the get go, sorry if you didn't?
>>5238344
actually i was busy staying indoors with crippling dysphoria at 14.
Ugh, laters gators
>>5238341
>we should do it together sometime
Never, fuck off loser hon
>>5238324
i don't even remember, it was years ago desu
>>5238348
everyone knows I'm not a hon, babe
>>5238352
>not denying the loser part
The answer is still a big no.
>>5238346
You probably still live like that?
>>5238353
can you show us your apartment? i want to see how messy it is
>>5238357
not really, i go out with friends, do my uni work, my job. idk i seem pretty settled now
>>5238355
your loss nerd, I'm a fucking blast to hang out with
>>5238324
My last date was going to the mall and a movie
We decided that we really should break up because faggots don't date biscum girls
>>5238360
>tfw was too shy to hang out with moko while she was still at drexel
>>5238360
Judging by your fucking dorky ass pictures there is nothing cool about you at all. Sorry, I am sure you are nice and all but I just don't want to hang out with you.
Lose my number bitch
>tfw you wish you could tell if someone were serious or just playing around
>>5238360
You actually do sound kind of fun
>>5238370
I always assume people are being dishonest and I avoid needing the cooperation of humans
Saves unnecessary stress
>>5238171
my partner literally understands me better than anyone else
>>5238220
ur obsession/crush is weird
>>5238306
well like it sounds like you don't rlly have anything to lose besides a wasted present and maybe getting a mean letter or something
>>5238322
>I don't WANT to harbor any resentment anymore, because I'm getting really tired of carrying this grudge
sounds like it might be something good to do for yourself even if it doesn't change the situation with your parents
you don't have to force stuff to just try to let go of baggage and move in a more positive direction
>>5238370
now I know this might be very difficult, but....
ASK THEM
>>5238301
https://clyp.it/olftlje1
>>5238378
>my partner literally understands me better than anyone else
But the idea that you're going to convert transgirls to being transbians is autistic
REMINDER YOURE NOT TRUTRANS UNLESS YOU GET TURNED FROM THE IDEA OF BEING A BOY
>>5238376
I dunno I was just shy and possibly slightly autistic, a little.
>Decide I should come out to your irl friends
>I've already come out to some of my family and they have been supportive
>Figure I will come out to some people I've been online friends with for years first because l e s s s c a r y
>A lot tell me I'm a freak and that I will never be a girl
Are people this mean irl? I know that online friendships are almost always innately weaker than real life friendships but I still feel pretty hurt and rejected. Did you girls lose many irl friends?
>>5238376
You look like another frog poster desu
>>5238377
I usually assume people are being honest unless something makes me think otherwise, tho if u ask my partner I may be a little gullible/naive sometimes
>>5238381
wut
I don't want to "convert" anyone
also calling everything autism at the drop of a hat just makes me assume people are projecting their own issues
>>5238385
so just staying unsure forever is better? or do you have some other plan to try to find out indirectly?
>>5238390
I lose something like 12 or 13 irl friends. It sucks but desu its nice to have them out my life
>>5238395
>I lose something like 12 or 13 irl friends.
How do you even have that many friends
>>5238390
Most of my online friends go on 4chan so I think they're automatically a lot less likely to accept trans people. Dunno if that's similar to yours.
>>5238395
>I don't even have 12 irl friends.
On second thoughts this closet is pretty comfy.
>>5238374
I'm actually super awkward and cripplingly autistic, but I'm a fun person once you get to know me
>>5238389
we should have hung out maybe, I miss Philly, there were always so many places to go and just chill
of course after transition it became a lot less easy to just be left alone, but still, it's a fun city
>>5238390
I lost all my friends. not immediately, but still. they were cool with it at first, but then when I actually started to dress in girl clothes and stuff they got weirded out by it
>>5238391
that picture is like, over a year old???
I pass now
>>5238393
It's autistic in the same way that you can convert a gay man or woman from being gay and it's pretty fucking sad
>>5238396
I lost 2 sets of 6. First lot i went sixth form with and i told and they havent talked to me since. And the second were the group at uni of which some of the guys just stopped talking to me.
>>5238400
do it anyway. if someone leaves you because of being trans they dont deserve to be your friend anyway
I'm pretty dissatisfied with my current provider (it's been a year and I'm not even on hormones yet) and I'm near philly, how is the Mazzoni center, and do they offer informed consent?
>>5238401
>My best friend said he couldn't see me passing as or being a a girl. Two months later, he's told everyone I know that I'm transitioning and six months later he finally got used to female pronouns.
Grats then
My best friend is supportive though I've not socially transitioned in any capacity so it's kind of weird
Also I thought this boy looked cute just now but then he turned his face my direction and he's got Mediterranean features and I just couldn't
>tfw your chest is getting obvious even in dark shirts
time to get my shit fucked up at the food bank
>>5238414
good luck elanna
>>5238410
Mazzoni is informed consent, and when I went there, everyone was really nice and accommodating. was able to get on HRT within a week after my first appointment. I didn't have health insurance, and they helped me out with prescription costs, and I never paid for an appointment. would definitely recommend.
>>5238402
I really regret not trying to meet up, I think it would have been really helpful for me at least to have a trans friend irl. And yeah, I loved the culture and all the things to do in Philly and stuff. I graduated and moved out but I do really miss it.
fucking can't ever decide on a name
>>5238408
I think I've maybe had twelve friends in my life
>>5238414
>how are you supposed to let people get close to you if you don't trust their intentions
You do know who I am, yes?
>>5238380
i am not sure if this is a corrupted audio file or rawr is actually retarded??
>>5238404
wut
I feel like you didn't actually read my post or just aren't bothering to reply to what I said and are responding to some strawman you've conjured up in your imagination
>>5238414
yeah it's hard and you always wanna find another way to avoid being direct and putting yourself out there but unless you get some indication then all you can do is ask or stew in your internal turmoil
good luck!
>>5238423
well by friends it was more "acquantainces" than friends. idk guess i was just lucky
>>5238380
Shouldin't you be in school, faggot?
>>5238428
I was counting friendly acquaintances
>>5238425
SHE is.
>>5238418
oh wait, were you the anon who actually saw me a couple times but we never talked? I totally forgot about that whole thing. not gonna lie, I spent a lot of time while walking to classes trying to figure out who it was.
not sure if I'm remembering this wrong though, if I am sorry!
good times, I looked like shit back then
>>5238433
I didn't know they did laser. that's awesome
Just got my eyebrows waxed. Shit was painful and I actually think I looked better with thicker brows.
>>5238436
oh. Well i just seemed to have people wanting to talk to me. I have no idea why, it even happens in uni now, i'll be in the back minding my own business and a guy will come up and sit next to me and try to start chatting with me over banal shit
Goooood morning
now to impatiently wait by the phone all week waiting for my bloodwork to come back or CVS to say they have my prescription
>>5238286
That really sucks, but at least you know what the issue was and are doing something about it.
Keep your chin up the best you can though, you're doing great <3
>>5238322
sign it "here's hopin Big Papi hits more homahs out of the pahk"
but in seriousness that's a really tough thing but family is always gonna be there even if they don't respect your choices now. Giving them a small ornament might be the first step to repairing it. You're also going to have to let go of that resentment also, but you can do that at your own pace.
>>5238442
you dun goofed. thick eyebrows have been in for a while. look at all the models, they have thick brows. baka desu
>>5238097
But I didn't do anything :/
Besides I like sheen
>>5238133
Whyyyyyyy?
I'm going back to work.
Stay sad mtfg
>open my computer
>skype notification
>normal name
did one of you idiots look me up on skype or is this a rando?
>>5238416
>>5238433
> HRT within a week
>laser
fucking jealous
>>5238450
land of the free, motherfucker
>>5238420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sDHPF61CWk
I am so tired of being alone.
>>5238453
this was four seconds of nothing?
named after this song actually:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzCNWYoJsl8
>>5238446
I asked her not to take off too much of the thickness and just give me a bit of an arch, but it seems like she completely ignored me and went nuts.
>>5238423
I do but I mean, it sounds problematic rather than helpful nonetheless.
>>5238426
Yeah, I'll do that, thanks e.
>>5238415
Thanks bexe, now I just need to find the time for it during a busy day like today ^^;
>>5238441
Ha yeah that was me. Like I said, possibly slightly mildly autistic. I cringe now, that all went away since I've been on hormones a bit.
And yeah they do! One of the guys who did it recently stopped though so there's been a really long wait list, but I'm almost done with it I think.
>>5238450
They give discounts if you don't have insurance too since they know a lot of young trans people get kicked out and couldn't afford it otherwise.
>don't want my penis
>don't want a gross looking neovag
How do I deal with this?
>>5237973
my dick just broke on all but like two
>>5238452
>I live in the US and went through IC as well...
still took 26 weeks longer than it should have
>>5238464
I guess killself. Then you won't have anything.
>>5238457
no, they say All haha
my dad's a huge punk fan so I had to sorry
>>5238464
>>5238464
Why would you not want a penis? it doesn't bleed monthly and is 80000 times better than a fake vagina
i get wanting to look like a girl, but the mutilation never made sense to me
>>5238463
damn! I wish I could've met you, that drove me crazy for like, a week. I was like "ok they saw me walking to this class on this day, so I need to watch every single person who passes by me on my way to class from now on"
i was...pretty autistic myself obviously
>>5238467
well that's just some fucking garbage then, I'm sorry senpai
>>5238464
I mean, neovags aren't 100 percent perfect, but they're not THAT gross. Still seems like a better option to me at least.
I am completely out of tea AND coffee
>>5238475
If you're over 17 they won't need anything. Planned Parenthood if there is one near you
>>5238467
>26 weeks longer than meant to
ouch, that fucking sucks
>nhs referral was year and half ago, still no nhs hormones
hormones over the counter when?
>>5238477
Is that brad pitt? What moovee
>>5238478
>Underage
>Over 17
Fuck. I'm just tired of self-medding, I can barely afford it.
>>5238469
i didn't hear it.
Descendents are good
>>5238481
where you getting your meds?
I want to beat Rawr to death.
>>5238473
Oh noo I'm so sorry lol. It was just bad luck that you didn't spot me, although that was at a time where my hair was barely past my ears and I wasn't on hormones yet so I probably didn't *look* like I was transitioning, I was just a typical gay engineer.
>>5238477
>tfw free coffee at work and I love coffee so I overdrink it but now I'm really jittery
T-time for another cup
>>5238459
nope, very helpful
>>5238482
ah ok
and yes they are, they're one of my dad's favs
>>5238480
interview with a vampire
>>5238485
I found...some instant coffee D:
http://strawpoll.me/6021235
>>5238483
QHI, I just bought 3 months worth of spiro for like 95 dollars and I can't afford estrogen
>>5238490
here's what i'm listening to now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uF_c1AosKU
>>5238493
it is, one clinic requires 1 year of RLE pre-mones, and all the other clinics that arent that one have a 12 month waiting list for an initial appointment.
No wonder so many of us britbongs self med.
>>5238493
>litearlly satan
sums it up pretty well.
>>5238496
so many europeans
>>5238500
The clinic I go to was just 5 months waiting, then bloods after the first appointment and hormones after the second.
>>5238486
Like helpful in what way though? I mean keeping people at arm's length keeps your emotions safe, but people inflicting pain on you is sort of a necessary part of life. To experience the best parts of life, you also generally need to experience the worst parts.
>>5238485
>I probably didn't *look* like I was transitioning
that's fair, but you know how all transgirls have the uncanny ability to spot one another, even if they're super early in transition
I guess my transdar isn't as good as I thought though in this case. rip
Any AUS girls here on HRT I can ask some questions?
>>5238503
what clinic anon?
>>5238507
Aberdeen
>>5238506
i'm in perth and started like a month ago, what do you want to know?
>>5238498
niiiice I haven't listened to any J-Rock in a while
here's one of my fav albums https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=502saQEIW0M&list=PL5EVGdZ49HMn7nFPDaF8Bq6l6JqUXAoSz
(there's no full album video so playlist it is :/ )
>>5238502
I'm not european, QHI just was cheaper than inhouse and involved less bullshit.
>>5238508
>aberdeen
>i live pic related
>>5238506
Hello, another Perthy here. 11 months in.
>>5238504
Right but humans are not the best part of life
>>5238509
Did you go through a normal GP/Insurance or a Sexual Health Clinic. How long did it take to get HRT. Got my first appointment next week.
I went to a sexual health clinic. It was pretty scary. The reception area was really tiny and full of people and the receptionists was like "HI HOW CAN I HELP YOU SIR" and I just like awkwardly mumbled that I wanted to see someone about transgender issues and that I wanted to be a girl. Still glad I did it though.
>>5238514
Oh just a little bit too far
>>5238513
what kind of bullshit? is it not just ordering?
i bet jews did this
>>5238517
you have autism so im not inclined to trust your judgment about this
>>5238514
I got referred to charing cross from Canterbury, they had a 8 month wait for the initial appointment then hrt is prescribed at the second appointment 6 months later
>>5238500
>tfw i go to the rle needing clinic
>mfw i was on hormones when i arrived
thank fuck, they said its unethical to kick me off them but still made me RLE anyway.
>>5238380
No one cares. No one likes you. Fucking kill yourself you pathetic loser.
>>5238517
They aren't, but humans that get close to you become people, and people definitely are one of the best parts of life.
>when you forget to take yr hormones before work and have to sit here for hours stressing about it
JUST
>>5238536
You offered me cuddles earlier. I am taking you up on that offer.
>>5238537
I set my pills and a bottle of water right next to my bed, it's the first thing I do when I wake up so I don't forget!
>>5238518
went to a gp explained myself the gp after interrogating me referred me to a psychiatrist.
the psych i went to wasn't very busy and didn't advertise that they did trans issues(i only spent two weeks on the waiting list), it took 2.5 - 3 months of seeing her to get a HRT referral.
And after shopping around for an endo i found one where i only had to wait two weeks for a appointment(i went to her privately, if it was public i'd have to wait four months for the appointment with the same doctor)
Do you want to know how much i paid out of pocket?
>>5238541
I would do that but having pill bottles out when other people are in my room feels awkward for some reason
>>5238545
>Do you want to know how much i paid out of pocket?
Ugh, If it was a lot I'm not sure if I want to know ;_;
>>5238547
real women use phone alarms for their birth control so that's what i do with my hormones
>barely have to pay anything for hrt
Feels good man
>>5238554
>real women
triggered
>>5238547
Oh that's not a problem for me since I'm a loser and live by myself.
Everyone here is a sociopath all u do is copy ppl to try to fit in w them
>>5238560
sorry i try to keep it 100
>>5238540
C'mere ^_________^
>>5238550
first consulation with psych was 340$ medicare rebate $220
subsequent was $188 with $113 rebate
the rebate went up to $173 when i hit the threshold.
I went to a bulk billing gp so i don't pay for that
my psychiatrist is making me see a psychologist also and that's 185$ with $84 rebate
this was until i hit the threshold and now receive 173$ in rebate.
the endo ended up bulk billing me even though i went to her privately so i didn't end up paying anything for that.
if you live in nsw or vic you'd probably have a decent public health services so you'd probably be able to go public without the ridiculous waiting times.
>>5238564
I care about people I've met here but right now it feels like all it causes me is pain and sadness.
>>5238564
What do you expect from most of he people here?
Most here don't even go out
>>5238554
w-wait really?
I-I use phone alarms for everything including my medication...
Trutrans™ strikes again...
>>5238530
Fuck you, drink bleach you fucking autist.
>>5238576
I'm in Queensland. Not really too sure what to expect.
>>5238585
telling oddish to drink bleach again rawr?
>>5238567
Thanks
>>5238585
Fuck off rawr. Go bother someone else you doxxing piece of shit.
>>5238586
If you're around Brisbane it'll still be a lot better than perth.
have you got a gp referral for the psychiatrist?
>>5238576
Also I forgot to say thank you for sharing, opps. Thank you.
>>5238585
>>5238590
>>5238592
Can't you guys just have a /drama general/? Most people here don't even know what you're talking about, and much less why.
>>5238592
I thought rawr was friends with ufufu but to see her turn around on her shows how cold blooded she is. Fucking snake in the grass right there..
>>5238584
>But being able to live alone means you're a success.
Uh what?
>>5238597
no problem :)
has anyone here ever been denied a date because of their boy roots?
>>5238390
actually interestingly enough I'm yet to lose any friends and a lot of them just seem to be excited that I'm going to grow boobs because they're mostly bi cis girls
I think it's because I'm so autistic only the friendliest nicest people wanted to be friends with me in the first place
>>5238391
shut up she looks cute
>>5238598
Rawr doxxed ufufu and is now denying it even though we obviously know it's them.
>>5238594
No I just went straight into the Sexual Health Clinic because cause googling stuff in my area seemed to conclude that was the best option. Apparently they have a doctor there who deals with transgender stuff and the waiting list was only a week. I'm central QLD (Mackay).
i wish my boobs were getting bigger faster. decided to quit gymming it up and just concentrate on my goal weight and cardio until i look like a skeleton
>>5238604
You don't have friends, you have people that pity you.
>>5238606
I don't know anything about sexual health clinics but good luck.
>>5238612
Living alone doesn't make you a success. Plenty of people do and are still losers.
Granted success is in the eye of the beholder
>>5238599
I doubt ufufu was friends with rawr. Who would even want to associate with them?
>>5238613
true
close enough for me tho
>>5238619
Welcome to 4chan
>>5238619
Welcome to 4chan
>>5238619
welcome to 4chan
>>5238619
You literally lost your mind and treated one of your friends like shit.. and now you are denying any involvement? Lmao if you think saying you were not here at all yesterday when it was all going down, you are the clueless one.
You have multiple personality disorder and conveniently forget shit like this after you already do them. Fucking apologize and beg for forgiveness..
Hey mtfg, I've been on hormones for about a year and a half, and i feel like I'm missing a lot of its effects. I didn't get super emotional, my bobs are still tiny, I've gotten a little more face fat but not much. Right now I'm on 4mg estrogen per day, my doctor offered to bump me up to 6mg last time I saw him in June. I declined, but now I wish I had taken him up on the offer. Is 4mg a day a low dose? He doesn't check e levels when I get blood work, so I don't know if those levels are low or not.
>>5238616
Basically public healthcare sector specifically designed to deal with sexual assault/stds/GBLT sutff. Not sure if they exist outside of qld? Anyway, thanks for the support.
>>5238647
that seems standard, what's your AA dosage?
>>5238641
First of all I'm one of the most stable people in this thread and secondly I didn't have anything to do with it. Stop trying to stir up shit faggot.
>>5238653
Fuck off rawr you delusional piece of shit.
>>5238660
Trip on ufufu
>>5238591
Something getting you down atm? Sorry I just had to drive to my bus stop ;~;
>>5238663
This, if you're going to frog post about leaving for a while then stop with the drive-by insults with your trip off.
>>5238668
Sorta. I'm only recently coming out to people and I was really happy earlier today and everything was going great but it just took one negative reaction to make me feel really insecure and horrible. I guess I'm being pretty dumb, I should be happy most people are supportive because I know there are definitely people who have it harder than me.
>>5238653
Literally everyone knows you are lying and it's getting sad and pathetic. If you value what's left of your friendships you should apologize to her in private.
Don't bother announcing it publicly here for damage control, we are sick of your personal laundry being aired out on here.
I can't believe I am having to tell her this. It's like I am dealing with a fucking child
>>5238682
>her
Can you not
>>5238680
It's not dumb to feel that way at all, a negative reaction always sucks no matter what context it happens in. That said, don't let it get to you too badly, it's hard, but the reactions that matter more are the positive ones. How many people have you told, and how many people have been supportive?
>>5238682
How do you know rawr did it?
Where's the proof?
holy fuck I am desperate for work now, im fucked
>>5237660
what the fuck? what the fuck????
>>5238691
>you will never invite Elanna to have a cute picnic with cupcakes and tea, you will never hold hands and fall asleep together under a tree.
>>5238700
prostitution :^)
>>5238700
Why, what happened? Is your mom threatening to throw you out again?
>>5238706
iktf
maybe we could have a picnic together instead anon?
>>5238691
Ugh mainly just my mother, sister and some people I play vidya with. My family is supportive. I didn't really think I would care that much about what online friends though but I guess I was wrong. Sort of sucks when you've spent a bunch of time with these people most days for years. I'm >>5238390 fyi.
>>5238700
Apply to McDonalds, Walmart, target, anything you fucking layabout.
h-hi
>>5238723
hi fran
>>5238720
You are not too good to work there, stop saying that you prick. You realise people have to actually work for a living and that includes doing things you don't want to do?
>>5238720
>I just feel like I am way too good to work in those shit holes.
Protip: You're not.
>>5238736
Please tell me this has been altered in some way
>>5238736
is it just me or is that kid thats smirking in the back got a really punchable face?
>>5238712
Well I'm glad that your family is supportive, of all the people that it matters most to have the support of, your family is very far up there. I'm very sorry about your online friends though. Those reactions are pretty high up there on the "negative" scale, but the internet sometimes just gives people free reign to be assholes. Please don't let them get you down, you can always find new friends that understand you ;~;
>>5238706
;~; I'd love a picnic though, this makes me sad
>>5238740
You can't live off of minimum wage in this country.
>>5238749
you can live off minimum wage better than you can live off of nothing
>>5238751
yeah maybe
>>5238749
You're so fucking dense.
>>5238736
take me now please
>>5238754
>>5238749
wtf is it with you and homeless people btw, did you have a bad experience with one as a child or something?
I've pretty much accepted I'll probably be living on the streets for a while after I come out to my parents because no entry-level job a spastic like me can hold onto is going to be enough to live off at first
>kayla not using her monster cock to get into tranny porn
>>5238766
pics or it didnt happen
>>5238777
She posted it several days ago, can confirm.
>>5238777
You didn't see it? I feel bad for you, it is pretty magnificent.
>>5238736
thanks hon
>>5237973
im gunna waifu edie now
>>5238812
Unless you're a gay male, you have no chance.
oh fuck it's trans awareness week at my uni
do I go to events
or do I
not
>>5238820
i have no image for the excitement i am feeling
What up trips? What's everybody listening to??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sun0VjNnMEA
>>5238829
I thought you had to? being an equality officer or whatever you said
>>5238806
I kind of am a whore though.
>>5238837
>tfw elanna will never be your whore
>>5238836
no I don't think so but you're right it might look bad on me
oh god what if it's all hons there and I start crying
this is literally worse than having cancer
>>5238829
They're having equality week at mine right now, I'm not going to bother going to any of the trans things though, they seem mostly about how to treat trans people rather than actual support and I'm too busy regardless.
>>5238841
having had a cancer scare this year, no it's not you insufferable prick
>>5238841
You are a fucking hon
>>5238820
https://youtu.be/fjDpRmOxVEw?t=5s
>>5238841
as someone who's run a trans awareness week at a uni, don't worry, no one turns up except for a few hons
>tfw you want to fuck your friend so bad
>>5238856
>tfw your best friend is completely disgusting
>all other friends are completely immature
>>5238856
JUST
>>5238867
no, i've only joined recently
>not even pills yet
>>5238839
>tfw will never be anon's whore
;______;
>>5238867
OK, I guess I'm just a slut then
>>5238874
>;______;
we can make this work! my family has a history of helping girls escape from edmonton
>>5238866
>iktf
;_;
>>5238869
Maddie he squeezed my bobs and groped my butt and I screamed like a little bitch with excitement and surprise and he just laughed ;_; human contact is weeeeird!
So how do i take these again? I put them under my tongue but after 10-15 minutes it turns into a white mush that i sometimes accidentally lick away. Should I keep doing it like that or just take them normally?
>>5238882
Have a glass of water before the pill, it might help it dissolve.
get
>>5238882
>birth control
>>5238879
Pls explain I want out of this frozen redneck wasteland ;~;
>>5238889
Denied
>>5238895
no, im really dumb and lost, ive just been shit posting hoping i would learn something but to no avail
What makeup can I use to cover my beard shadow without going full drag queen? Since it's my first time using anything of the sort, I want to keep it subtle. I have an appointment with a gender therpaist in a week. I don't want to walk in with a five o' clock shadow and make it appear like I put in zero effort.
>>5238900
well u can learn about common med regimens and the places u can buy stuff online for self medding here but to rlly move forward on stuff with finding a doc and stuff u gotta do some of ur own research specific to ur area and the options available to u
>>5238895
Your partner sounds fun tbqh
>>5238908
Concealer for your beard area and foundation for the rest of yoilur face. Just blend it well and make sure to have a clean shave right before
>>5238845
>I am personally offended by this offhand comment
Wow, what a turkey.
>>5238915
Thanks.
What about BB cream? Is it worth looking into for my purposes?
>>5238909
>nothing at all
>>5238882
Its best to let the white mush disolve takes a few minutes tho
>>5238918
i use bb cream/foundation and concealer on top. it works pretty well but i've also had some laser
>>5238919
>It's like I'm wearing nothin' at all!
My boot finally came and I'm in love! What's up mtfg?
>>5238918
I haven't personally tried bb cream but other girls swear by it here. So I'd say give it a try. Post results when it done so someone can see I you did it well
>>5238926
nice, how much? I want some knee high boots soooo badly but its not really in the budget rn
>>5238894
my dad started an ldr with my edmontonian mom then wifed her
>>5238918
Unless it's the asian stuff it's pretty much just light coverage foundation, just stick to concealer/foundation, get the hang of which ones go well with your skin tone and learn to blend.
>>5238926
Waaah they're so cute! °^°
>>5238923
whelp, at least i went out meme'ing
>>5238926
Where'd you get them?
I'm in the market for non heeled ankle boots but no luck.
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK. I DIDNT KNOW THIS EXISTED.
Apparently it's a way to remove your mustashe and beard without shaving
>>5238934
>tfw you will never wife elanna
>>5238934
>tfw noone to fall in love with, and be swept away from Edmonton to be wifed by
Is this the current thread? Also, where is Noelle?
>>5238948
Literally magic.
also
>formulated for black men
The fuck.
so i've been ignoring my life and my problems lately in an attempt to make myself happier. it's worked for the most part, and I've made little baby steps towards productive things, but mostly I've just played dota.
My family is upset at me for that, and they told me basically I have to be productive and live in the real world and make money. And that reminded me I hate the way the world works and I don't wanna live.
So I've resolved to ignore them and play more dota.
>>5238964
you could get a job cammin'
>>5238963
>tfw black woman
Yuuuuus
>>5238968
too ugly.
>>5238964
>attempt to make myself happier.
>play more dota
Truly you have found what is best in life
May your MMR skyrocket to the moon.
>>5238964
How can dota bring happiness at 800 mmr?
>>5238964
dota is not the solution to everything, working sucks but you've got to get a job at some point...
>>5238975
i predict that in two years I can reach 5k. maybe then i can make a stream and earn some money doing that. i just need to spend another 1k hours a month until then learning how to fucking play.
>>5238959
backwater ohio, no car, i am virtually retarded when i have to read thing and im nervous, i literally cannot process the information
>>5238990
I lived around Dayton, Ohio is bleh imo
>>5238986
working is whatever, I don't mind it. Making money makes me feel like a whore though. I've never had a job that didn't expect me to lie or be ingenuine, or that forced me to feign empathy. It makes me physically sick that I have to do this to live. I decided a while ago I can't live and also be true to myself, and that meant I have to kill myself, but I'm afraid I guess.
>>5238948
pls be careful with chemical hair removal, chemical burns are not fun
>>5238996
can i move in with you?
;_;
>>5239000
not all jobs require you to lie. not many do if you're going for lower skilled ones. there comes a point where you've just got to do what you must for money.
>>5238987
My friend plays around 5.5k and has a decent following on twitch, I think that is totally doable.
It's a channel that's not like WOO HYPE, but he has a pleasant voice and explains what's going on so people can get better otherwise it's just music playing.
gl;hf
>>5238996
>tfw went to Dayton to meet a nice girl and she never actually had a gt
no chaser, I thought we could be gal pals but it turns out she was lying for the attention ;~;
>>5239009
i don't have to do anything though. I can die, then I don't ever have to be dishonest.
Besides, my mother basically disowned me because I'm useless, and she won't let me come back home. I'm living with my grandparents now and they're, uh, bigots, and i don't belong here either. I just weird them out and they would hate me if I wasn't their precious grandson. No one considers me female, no one cares about my problems.
>>5239010
someday i'll be good enough. yea, that'd be cool.
despite the terrible community, I honestly love thi game. It's just bad because it's low mmr right? If you get higher mmr the community is less shitty.
I really hope this works . . . . (๑′°︿°๑)
>>5238835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYa1eI1hpDE
>>5238990
I mean just searching basic shit like "transgender doctor ohio" seems to start pulling up some results and info
>>5239017
You gonna look good senpai.
>>5239016
live with a friend and find a job? idk that could work. you were basically doing that anyway but then just moved out for some reason
>>5238984
>fucking 800 mmr
LOL
>>5239036
what job could make you that sick in a single day?
>>5239038
It was work for American Express.
There was a point in the day where our trainer told us, extremely excited, I mean, he was fake smiling and being forced and hammy all day, but this legitimately made him excited. He was telling us about this card AmEx has that literally is just a status symbol, like they have other cards with the same limits and stuff, but this one you can only be invited to, and you can only use it if you spend oh so much annually, and you HAVE to spend like 20k a month with it, and he was telling us about how the card itself is made out of titanium and if you have the card and you need help, you can pick up a phone and AmEx will send people to basically help you with whatever.
All I could think about the entire time he's talking about this is how that money could be spread evenly among everyone and others would never want and such an individual would still live comfortably. And then I thought about how the advent of money creates misfortune, and people don't want to change it because they like the idea of being better than other people, and about how money influences a bias in people in creation of art, and in expression of freedom, all in ways that I find negative I guess. It was really upsetting.
I went to cry in the bathroom and when they did the whole "ask everyone a question" thing I was standoffish. And I looked disgusting, before I was crying even, and then everyone knew I was crying.
I overslept on my break and my boss asked if I was ok and I asked to be sent home about an hour and a half early. Said I'd be back the next day, but I took the first place to Montana.
>>5239054
humans at their very core are selfish by nature, some just choose to display it more than others
>>5239054
sounds like the company were cunts but like...a jobs a job, you need money and its not possible to live off of others forever. like what if you get kicked out? what then?
>>5239059
I could pull off being homeless. But again, the idea is that I should kill myself because the world will never be fair, it won't ever be comfortable, to me personally or philosophically. Having money grosses me out and any time I get any I try to immediately spend it anyways.
I wonder, if I became a millionaire, and then I burned all the money I could live without, like the absolute bare minimum for comfort, would taking all that money out of circulation effect the economy? What would be that scale? How much money would I need to take out of circulation to destroy currency as an idea?
>>5239069
reality doesnt work that way and at some point you need to stop being a child and grow up
>>5239032
no bullying!
>>5239069
it wouldn't really do anything, the issue is inequality of wealth rather than the specific value of a dollar, you'd be better off giving the money to people in poverty and thus driving the economy
>>5239067
im so jelly. i wouldn't think a delapitory cream would work on the face. also damn sis u are gonna be pretty as hell once u get ur hair did and have those mones
. . . . . .I am literally never shaving again in my entire life. This shit IS some kinda black (heh) magic!
>>5239069
How old are you anon, I'm about to take a year out and I'm worried of the dangers of becoming a neet
>>5239069
you'd need a job to become a millionaire, and it wouldnt do anything. yes reality sucks in terms of money but nothing you can do. we've all got to deal with it, having a job is something that pretty much has to be done.
find a job you'd like to do. or volunteer to work with animals in africa or something. there are jobs which are honest, dont pay much (enough to live) and do good.
it sounds like charity work might be your thing. can start of volunteering and they'll pay for most if not all things for you and then eventually can get hired
>>5239083
looking good desu senpai
>>5239081
Rofl damn you caught me before I could erase it xD, but ty!
As for the removal cream no burns and it wasn't unpleasant. I just applied it and gently rubbed it off with a damp cool rag and all my facial hair went off with it! Thankfully my bears shadow blends in with my skin tone some, so its not really visible unless you look close.
>>5239090
Thanks senpai (｡・//ε//・｡)
>>5239083
awesome! Glad you have something that works :D
>>5239069
the world isn't fair and fairness is more of a human conception anyway, but u can like make enough to live off while devoting most of your energy to work to help people
Hi what's everyone up to rn??
>>5239083
Looks great! but would it work for a pale white guy?
>>5239104
why would i choose to live like this instead of not exist? given the choice?
go find the job that will hire me, a shitty employee with no qualifications, to a position where I can legitimately make an honest living helping people.
>>5239089
I'm 21 so at least you're not as bad as me : )
>>5239108
playing csgo and getting shat on
>tfw have to present a 10 minute thing on something I don't understand or care about, currently have no speech prepared, and wanna die before the afternoon rolls around
>>5239117
you should volunteer somewhere, it will rarely require any real qualifications and it will look good on your resume, and you can volunteer at places that genuinely help people
you won't make any money but it's a stepping stone and it's something to do
>>5239128
Just be yourself :)
>>5239124
I hope you're talking about csgo still...
>>5239137
huh???
I've finally got rid of the last of my boy clothes, feelsgoodman.
>>5239117
cus there's still plenty of beauty and awesome stuff in the world
there's lots u can do to help without a lot of qualifications, have you considered working with the elderly?
>>5239137
L M A O
>>5239128
fake it 'til you make it senpai
>>5239135
>just do it :)
>>5239108
Hi kit, umm, trying to think of stuff to say about film scripts while I get stared at and judged by my classmates, hbu? ^^
>>5239141
It's a good feel, congrats!
>tfw wish you had held onto one set of boy clothes, just so you could screw w/ friends on Halloween
>>5239153
I don't want to make it as a writer ;~;
>>5239141
oh god I will never know that joy, let me guess you are only 1 month into hrt huh?
>>5239128
Good luck
>>5239160
6 months, but presenting for a year.
>>5239165
where are you precisely? i'll have a quick look myself.
>>5239168
>only 6 months
kill me now
>>5239140
>and getting shat on
>>5239170
cut bank montana
>>5239159
ugh that sounds rough ;~;
um i am just waking up rn and not really sure what to do today n_n
for some reason i woke up and its only 2:30 but im not tired ;~;
>>5239172
You can do it too Kayla! You just have to be brave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmlPtRu1SQ
digging new lip gloss but still trying to figure out how to line lips/make them look bigger without also making myself look like a drag queen
>>5239179
http://www.adoptapet.com/adoption_rescue/71915.html
here you go. an animal shelter in area where you can inquire about helping them on a volunteer basis.
Took about 3 seconds of googlefu.
>>5239120
Nice age meme
>>5239191
down boner down
>>5239108
working on rock band songs, doing laundry, getting ready to go to my sister's house for her birthday
u?
>>5238947
I messed that up, they are from nordstroms.
>>5239187
when I watch shit like that I think to myself "yeah, I am a woman"
>>5239212
i meant 2:30am tho ._.;
>>5239199
pls don't bully
>>5239210
thanks kayla! even tho i'm probably not gonna see anyone today i have to do makeup every day or i feel like shit =\ yeah, i was super repressed, dissociated for a long time from my body and emotions so trans stuff wasn't really even on my radar until a few years ago. thought living up to the ideal of manhood by lifting and having lots of promiscuous sex would make me happy but it didn't work out obviously
>>5239191
What are you currently doing for your lips?
>>5239226
ah isn't repression fun
Only problem with not being repressed to that extent anymore is now I have no idea who the hell I am even.
>>5239233
primer, lipstick, and lining the ridge directly around my lips with a slightly darker colored pencil liner. someone in the passing thread told me to try a gel liner. i exfoliate if i'm feeling especially industrious
>>5239235
yeah, i feel you. i know what's wrong with me now but my dysphoria is worse that i ever felt before now that i know
>>5239195
i should check this out
>tfw you buy a qt long top but it looks like shit because you have no hips
>>5239245
For some strange reason my dysphoria is less than what it was before, maybe its the hrt or the fact I do feel and look more feminine that before. What is worse is my social anxiety, its never been this bad before and I get tremors when I go out just in normal guy mode. When I went out in girl mode I actually felt less anxious.
Hey heres this asshole idk why
>>5239268
You look /really/ American. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I won't you to know that in this instance it doesn't mean fat.
>>5239191
I don't care what anybody says, I love that fucking headband
>>5239245
>i know what's wrong with me now but my dysphoria is worse that i ever felt before now that i know
holy shit are you me
like now that I know what it is I feel it 10 times worse than before when I was just like "oh you know normal I hate myself depression I wonder why I get it loool"
>>5239283
it's the winter jacket. very american.
>>5239268
blurry but qt
>>5239295
Cheers
>>5239245
Hmm... try primer, foundation, lip liner (use as a base), then lipstick over it, and gloss on the inside only.
or primer, foundation, set with powder, then lip liner, stick, gloss.
Don't use a liner darker than your lipstick color
What primer are you using?
>>5239245
my dysphoria only intensifies as i progress because it feels whatever i do, it isn't enough, or it takes time and i'm impatient or there's something else, and it annoys me because it's all over stuff that can change and is changing. i'm only really just starting to realise how fucked the perceptions of my body are, and even knowing i'm not doomed and things are ok, i'm still this fucking awful thing in my mind's own view of me. srs, years away. i cry a lot. i'm an impatient, childish bitch.
not knowing about trans stuff sorta just made me feel dead and like a non-person because i felt fucked and nothing could be changed. knowing you aren't fucked, but may be fucked, you just don't know yet, it's not worse but it is equally unenjoyable
>>5239313
some retarded expensive af stuff
http://www.amazon.com/Divine-Skin-Cosmetics-Pro-Primer/dp/B00TR61VOW/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_img_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1FTHZH4B4Y9486JSG35V
i thought this would plump them too which is the only reason i paid so much for it. thanks for the tips tho. what do you mean by gloss on the inside only?
I was wondering why the thread was so ded but I guess everyone migrated here
>>5237849
>>5237849
>>5237849
>>5239325
>some retarded expensive af stuff
that is def too much lol
Target, E.L.F. Primer and Plumper, 3 bucks girl.
Gloss only on the parts where penises touch lol
no seriously, it's only making the lines on your lips stand out in that pic. You just want a hint of shine
>>5239338
thanks <3
>>5239226
bully? you're attractive as fuck
>>5238948
colour me
I N T E R E S T E D
tell me if you get results
>>5239083
HOLY SHIT I'M LOOKING FOR THIS STUFF THE MINUTE I GET MORE MONEY
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