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>Thread #18
Old thread here >>30609164
>>30631746
This is 12 right ?
YOU HAVE ONE SECOND TO EXPLAIN WHY YOURE NOT OPER8ING INNAFRICA REMOVING POACHER
>>30631793
This is Nice
>>30631793
Because Africa is full of mosquitoes, tons of parasites, and AIDs.
>>30631746
v neat pic
>can't find V2 5.56 Vepr anywhere
>>30632080
Nice
What's it for
Guys, is there a .22LR Ak that isn't plastic shit, aside from Radom ?
>>30632116
I thought there was a wasr-22 but I cold be wrong.
>>30632140
True. I'd like to know if there's more though.
Is this a fair price for a triangle folder, considering its condition?
Most other places I see them going for >$100.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/571521939
>>30632116
The GSG .22 AK has controls in the same spot as an actual AKM and weighs about the same as a normal AKM. It even has a side rail. I don't think it can take AKM furniture though. I've heard that to function 100% it needs hi velocity .22lr but some people say it functions fine with anything.
>>30632172
That's not bad at all. Only place I found them cheaper was files. I would say just snag that one tho.
>>30632140
It was still pretty shoddy, and is relegated to unicorn status these days anyways.
>>30632184
It's plastic though.
>>30632190
Great. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting ripped off or something (although I already requested the order).
Need that validation, you know?
Is there an adapter for metal triangle sidefolders that allows them to fold to the right instead, while bringing them up to NATO length? If no, why the fuck not?
>>30632195
That's what I figured I saw some parts on apex once.
There is always the mossberg blaze 22 hahahah jk
>>30632207
Hey man it's better that the question of:
>Uh dur I'm poor what ak should I get?
>>30632184
I paid $90 on GB for a NOS izhmash 4.5mm
>>30632229
Was meant for >>30632172
Should I build an AK or buy one?
>>30631793
I'm so white I'd be able to scare the animals off with my sunscreen scent alone. I much prefer oper8n innawoods north of 40 degrees latitude.
Anyone ever bought one of the AK "pistols" in 7.62x39? How do they compare to a regular AK?
>>30632387
They're shorter
>>30632387
general consensus seems
>fun as a pistol
>terrible as an AK
>>30632196
So is pretty much every other .22 AK outside of the WASR-22 and good luck finding one.
>>30632407
Hurrr. I know there's some loss of energy from the shorter barrel, and I'd be using a "pistol brace" so one handed operation isn't an issue. Any reliability problems with them?
>>30632291
Buy one unless you have $1,000+ to spend on a tools and plan to build a lot of AK's.
>>30632482
Hwhat AK is of a good price/quality ratio right now? Is it still the WASR?
>>30632387
>>30632471
I've got three (2 Dracos and an M92 PAP). They are fun and I've not had any reliability issues other than a pin wanting to walk out on the M92, solved that by replacing the shepards hook with R clips. They are useless as pistols but with a 'brace' they could be worthwhile. I got mine with the intention of SBRing them but it has not happened yet.
>>30632553
Yeah I'd basically be using it as a home defense weapon and a range toy. I'm not expecting 1MOA or anything - I have other guns optimized for that.
>>30632550
NPAP
Is there a /k/-approved AK buying guide available?
>>30632937
Just specify
>caliber
>price range
Most likely it's going to be wasr -10
>>30632990
>>30632937
Please buy anything other than wasr 10, you will be dissapointed.
>>30633011
Now how did your wasr 10 disappoint you may I ask ?
>>30632990
>caliber
7.62x39 is the most common, so that's what I'd prefer.
>price range
$1000 at the most.
gatta zero this baby
>>30633279
same anon here.. what do you guys recommend when I zero it? 100 meters?
>>30633279
25m\ 300m zero for 7.62x39 imo
>>30633391
so if i zero it at 25m I'm good?
So I'm looking to pick up an AK soon, does anyone have any recommendations to look at?
I like what I see with the Century Arms C39 V2, does anyone have any experience or reviews on that?
>>30633256
>wars 10
> used Chinese (mak90)maby ?
>used opap
> npap
>used slr107 or new if you get lucky.
>vepr 7.62x39 requires work to look like akm.
My vote would would be the slr107 or wasr with ammo and mags.
>unconverted Saiga for cuck states
>>30633305
100 meters default. Depends on what you're shooting at and where
my spam can of ammo just arrived... first one... i don't want to open it, but my mags need bullets. anyone else get that feel of not wanting to open your ak food tins?
also, i need to buy some wax for my wood now
>>30633435
Ya I believe so check out akou video on zeroing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wdX1PiHvy-U
>>30633060
Constant stoppages after 1000 rounds and the fucking thing starts smoking after one mag dump.
>>30633485
> 5.45or 7.62x39 ?
I know the feeling
>>30633521
>>30633060 (You) #
Constant stoppages after 1000 rounds and the fucking thing starts smoking after one mag dump.
Well I'll give you that the rifle gets hot during a single mag dump, but so does my slr104.
What sort of mags were you using to produce the stoppages?
How often is the rifle cleaned ?
> pic of internals?
>>30633485
>anyone else get that feel of not wanting to open your ak food tins?
I get some of that same feeling. But you just need to buy enough cans so you don't have to feel so bad.
I'm going to feel terrible when I'm forced to open my last can of 545, if I can ever make myself do it.
>>30633590
I makes me sad to think I missed out on all that cheap 7n6 due to my ak market ignorance.
> I pay for it now with my 550$ crates
>>30633555
>>30633590
is that corrosive surplus?
>>30633555
7.62x39
it's not like i can't get more and i know the bullets aren't going to spoil in my closet
i just enjoy knowing i'd have a sealed can of 640 bullets
>>30633713
Yes
Anyone here have any newly made croatian BHO black mags? Found some for cheap and wondering if they are worth it
>>30634004
Nope. Quality is wish washy. Some are good some are crap.
>>30634169
k thanks, where do you guys go to find cheap 7.62x39 mags?
needed an edit badly, that's what I get for browsing at work and getting interrupted
>>30633609
I just got my ak-74 at the right time. I was paying 120/can + shipping, so about 275 per crate of 2160. I paid even less for the first crate I bought, like 110/can.
The last can I saw was at a gunshow, and it was basically 250+ per can. I asked the guy if I could just buy the crate off him for 20 bucks, but he declined because it made the cans more awkward to carry. His loss I guess over an extra bit of work moving it back to his vehicle till he could find another box for it.
>>30633713
Corrosive and steel cored, pic related. Although I still think my 60grain barnaul ammo yaws faster.
>>30633578
Sold it to a fudd, but I think it was honestly just my rifle because friends if mine have WASR 10s and only a few experienced these problems as for mags they were steel romy surp. This is just my experience with WASR 10s, I'm sure your rifle functions great, but all I'm saying is I got a bad apple and when there is one there's more.
Found a guy on Armslist selling a "Bulgarian Wafen Werks AK-74" with 4 mags and a case for 600. Is it a shit deal or not?
>>30635191
Most likely he's selling it because it's one of the shitty ones that doesn't work (common with those)
It's a dick move to sell a problem gun and not warn the buyer, but people do it frequently
Hey has anyone ever ordered from Atlantic using a debit card? It keeps getting denied even though all the info is correct and I have the money on it. Do they only accept credit and not debit?
>>30635679
>>30635679
Check with your bank and make sure you have a high enough limit set.
If you're only trying allowed like $300 per purchase, then when you're charged more than that it'll reject and bounce back.
>>30635777
Yeah doing that right now, I'm just a babby and I've never used a card for anything more than food, so I have no clue what the limit on my card is.
>>30633441
Also interested in hearing what's up with these. I've heard from some folks that they're awesome, and from some people that they're dog shit. Definitely want to know - from someone who has one - how it is, and whether the concerns about soft bolts and carriers are true.
>>30632550
Yes
>>30633441
Get a wasr or npap avoid both of the c39s and ras47.
>>30633578
I wasn't involved in this post
>>30635930
The bolts are cast and are softer than a normal one and the bolt carrier has lightening cuts in it that are a failure point. Basically everything but the barrel is not the proper hardness.
I'm having trouble with my front iron sight. When firing, the post unscrews itself and goes down. Also I can push the entire sight to the side like I'm adjusting the windage. Obviously, the sight doesn't hold a zero while firing - has anyone else encountered this problem and come up with a solution?
>>30635930
From what I have seen mainly people like the new generation of them. They only have some feeding issues when it comes to non magpul mags is what people are saying. I just picked up a RAS47. Sitting on my desk next to me. I have to wait to shoot it though till next week or so. Non magpul mags to wiggle a good bit.
What light should I throw on this bitch /k/? I'm function over form so idgaf if it's a scrape off my boot country sloppin out good product
It's here lads
Baltic birch furniture from Ironwood designs
Are Childers 80%'s worth a shit? Ordered one w/ rails for a Bulgy kit, but I am an AK noob and went off of a recommendation.
Also, I've never used a spot welder, how difficult is it to weld rails in?
WILL AN AK74 BAYONET WORK ON AN AKM?
>>30637948
Seconded.
Also there's an East German bayonet on Apex Gun Parts or something that's labeled as an AK-74 bayonet, but I'm 90% sure it's an AKM bayonet. Gonna look for a link real quick
>>30638023
Oh it is I have one. I had to modify it to fit on my slr104 tho it fit my wasr just fine.
>>30638063
Good deal. AK74 bayos look pretty dostinct.
I'm trying to start an AK bayonet collection, so far I've gotten a Romy type 1, with a soviet type 2 in the mail. East German type 1 seems the next best in line and the fastest to dry up
Going to gunshot tomorrow. Budget is 900.
What AK brand should I look for and/or avoid?
>>30637365
i have heard that childers receivers are G2G
but i haven't personally built any aks yet, good luck
>>30631746
What are the value of the Labanu Inc. MAK-90s?
> still waiting for my mags to ship
>>30638688
Tomorrow. My hours today were from 7:30 am till 8 pm
Does anyone know if this stock will work with a stormwerks or ACE folding mechanism?
>>30638776
No problem, I ain't worried just want some more plum goodness
>>30637243
now that it's here I'm afraid I'm gonna fuck it up desu
>>30632387
With an arm brace they're comfy
>>30634794
Why'd you rip one nipple off 24 different people and then spray paint them with shitty silver colored paint?
anyone here experienced in staining AK wood?
I was told to mix amber shellac with denatured alcohol and apply with a china bristle brush, but it looks a little light, especially on the lighter colored furniture here
>>30637243
How many coats does it usually take? I've got some scrap pieces of wood to test out on if it helps
>>30639030
4 or more coats normally
Good to hear. I'm really trying not to fuck this up but I'm probably overthinking it. Also I'm sick of watching youtube videos so I'm just doing it.
Also learned that you can clean shellac off a china bristle brush but sticking it in some denatured alcohol, so theres that
>>30639102
meant for
>>30639074
>>30639030
why in the world would you use shellac?? Its like a million times harder to apply, is not nearly as permanent or protective, and the color is so hard to get gud. a nice can of stain and some spray poly lacquer will make it last forever mang.
>>30639215
It's what /akg/ told me to use, and it's what the Russians use apparently.
Here the wood samples after two coats, applied with a china bristle brush and the excess wiped away with strips of a new tshirt.
Not as shiny as I thought it would be by now, I was told shellac has a natural shine to it
>>30639280
forgot pic
also should note these pieces are unsanded, and that the one on the left is just shellac, while the one on the right is cut with 40% denatured alcohol. The third is unstained
>>30639215
not >>30639030
but poly takes awhile to dry, leaves a shiny finish (even with low gloss) and smells pretty bad for weeks after it drys
shellac is more expensive but makes the wood look better
>>30639295
I mixed up a extra batch with some red transtint and gave it a coat or two after a couple coats of plain shellac
3 coats, and it doesnt look much brighter.
Someone help me out here, I can't help but feel like this is getting screwed up somehow. I uncover the shellac-alcohol solution, dip the china brush in it and paint the wood. Then wash off the brush with just the denatured alcohol, rinse with water, and then apply pure shellac to the piece on the left. Then wipe excess shellac off both pieces with some shirt fabric and let them dry. Am I doing something wrong? Maybe leave the shellac on a few seconds longer before I wipe away the extra stuff?
>>30639459
That looks pretty good man. I hope to acquire or build an AKS clone some day
>>30639510
Should I wait longer between coats? I'm just waiting till it's dry to the touch, but from one source I hear at least 4 hours
>>30639510
Is your shellac/alcohol mix right? Also don't wipe it off just do light coats, the Russians slathered it on originally
>>30639510
i use straight shellac and only use the denatured alcohol to prep the wood, and let it dry 4 hours each application
>>30639552
I was told that Zinsser out of the can needs to be cut with 40% denatured alcohol.
>>30639568
Guess I'll try that with some space on the unused piece
finished cleaning my ak, mags, and opening the spam can
...have to wait till next payday to afford range time
fuck. and fuck spam cans too. paint flakes fucking everywhere
>>30639588
You're using already mixed stuff? I used flakes melted in alcohol
>>30639613
yea just the zinsser can.
>>30639601
>waiting till next payday to do/buy next X related AK thing
I know the pain anon
>>30639601
>AED63?
nice
>steel mags
nice
>RAS ammo
no
>>30631746
>dat improvised cheek rise
>>30636433
Pls help
>>30631746
HELP PLS
This shit is pissing me off and I can't seem to find anything about it online.
How can I remove blemishes from a parkerized finish? This is the dust cover of my AK. The marked areas are little imperfections in the parkerized finish that are shinier than the normal matte finish.
It can only really be seen at an angle. There are little marks everywhere. Anyone know anything about this? I can't find anything on google. I'd like to make the finish consistent.
>>30631888
What state?
>>30639670
what rifle
>>30639675
Did you buy it that way anon?
They just look like scratches in the finish bruh. Cherish them
>>30639675
recoat the whole rifle in gunkote?
some dings and scratches are normal
>you OCD?
>>30639675
Get over it?
>>30637365
I ordered one three months ago and never got it. I emailed back and forth and eventually they stopped responding. The problem is that it never made it to the post office to begin with
>>30633485
You really only need to open a tin or two at a time. I fill up a 30cal ammo can with loose rounds for each of my calibers so I don't spend range time pulling shit out of boxes to load mags.
It has an added bonus of making you constantly think you need to buy more ammo.
>>30635679
They take mine no problem. Snagged a slr104 on layaway right before they sold out pretty recently. Check with your bank.
>>30639613
>>30639568
>>30639552
>>30639541
Alright m80's, thanks for the help tonight. I'll let the 3rd coat dry overnightand see what it looks like in the morninng, and I'll prepare a piece tonight with just denatured alcohol and try it with pure shellac
>>30639695
>you OCD?
Sort of. I'm just fiddling with the gun and want it to look 100%
>>30639695
>>30639697
Surely there is a way to buff them out? They aren't really scratches, maybe more like tool marks I dunno how to describe them well.
>>30639635
>>RAS ammo
>no
better than Tula? i was going to get some wolf military standard, but that was only in 1k and would mean i wouldn't have been able to get as many mags along with the leather strap i ordered
i figure, what with all the latest happenings, i should maximize ready storage and then ammo amount
>>30639852
sorry anon, that's just what it looks like now
>>30639860
I bought a 180 box the other day. I like the edgy commie packaging.
I think it is slightly more expensive though (like $2-3 bucks).
It all shot fine. I don't really know what I would criticize about it.
Repaint... but stop being autistic.
>>30639955
including shipping, extra insurance, and signature confirmation i payed like .28 cents/round
if i went with a 1k round option it'd have dropped to like .25 cents/round
>>30639860
RAS ammo isn't that, depends on who made it. There's the Romanian made stuff and then the Ukrainian stuff, plus a few batches have been essentially rebranded Tula (same factory in Russia)
>>30639874
ehhh I don't believe it. There has got to be someway to buff them out.
They aren't even really what I'd call scratches just blemishes in the finish.
I tried using a pencil eraser and wiping them down the oil but it seemed to have minimal effect.
>>30639991
Yeah I dunno what that other anon's criticism is I liked it. Do you senpai.
What site did you order from?
Anybody else have a perversion that requires them to have a bayonet for each rifle?
>>30640099
I mean, like for real, I get sweaty just attaching them and admiring them
>lewd
I know, sorry...
>SLR104 and a crate of 7n6 in the mail
>ordered a plum handguard
>have a triangle stock and a black AIMR grip in a box from previous tinkering
>pic related
Feels good man
>>30640099
>>30640123
s-stop it anon, I'm just a poorfag trying to collect bayonets cuz I can't afford to collect anything else
where can I buy an East German type 2 AKM bayo btw
And how do I get a nice orange bakelite Soviet type 2 instead of the brown one Circle 10 most likely sent me
just put a bid down for a sgl31, fucking california makes this shit so much harder than it has to be wish me luck bros
>tfw listing my Martini Henry for sale/trade
I'm not sure if I want to dump more money into 5.45 mags, 5.45 ammo, or buy more Makarovs.
>>30640045
sgammo
>>30640218
Goddamnit stop it, I'm already selling a few guns I don't shoot anymore to co-workers for much less than they're worth to make my 104 get here faster.
>>30640348
AKbuilder has the type 2 east german in stock, and RGuns.net has the handsome marbled orange ones in stock. My Bulgarian type 2 is easily my favorite, I've got a small collection of bakelite together for a special project and it would look beautiful with the milled bakelite furniture I have.
>>30640447
These 2?
https://rguns.net/shop/bayonet-soviet-type-2-akm-izy/
http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30522
Damn bud, wish I'd found you before I ordered my Soviet type II from Circle 10. Hopefully they give me an izhmash.
But that E German on AK builder looks too new, somethings phishy pham
>>30640348
>how do I get a nice orange bakelite Soviet type 2 instead of the brown one Circle 10 most likely sent me
If you got the "soviet type 2" then it likely won't be brown (which is actually dark red, like the bulgarian type 2 circle 10 has)
But if you do get a dark one, RGuns has izzy type 2s.
https://rguns.net/shop/bayonet-soviet-type-2-akm-izy/
Mine is very orange.
The first EG type 2 I could turn up was on Northridge, but their website is fucked so you'd have to call in your order.
I think they have an Ebay store too, you could look for one there.
http://www.northridgeinc.com/store/index.cfm/c3/i697
>My tula, yugo and izzy bayos
>>30640504
Would you trust this one? It looks way too clean desu. Theres one for 50$ on amazon but it also doesn't have a frog
http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30522
>>30640504
Oh and Circle 10 Soviet Type 2 bayos are from either Tula or Izhmash (and you can't pick) and I think Tulas are kindof a dark brown, or blood red color
I really should have come here before buying it but I didn't want to wait
>>30640548
I would email them and see if it comes with the lanyard and frog, mine did, and looked like it had never been out of the paper it came in. Northridge is good to go too, I bought one from one of their ebay auctions, also came with the lanyard and frog.
Pic to show that is me
>>30640589
How did you amass such an impressive collection anon?
Also thank both you guys for the bayonet advice, I wanna start a collection
Started with Romy type 1, gonna probably go izzy type 2, EG type 2, yugo type 2, then whatever from there. An original AK47 bayo if they're compatible with AKMs too
More mags from Poland
If you were wondering, type 2 bayonet from RGuns will match early 90's Cadillac trim perfectly.
Now that gives me 8 Beryls and 4 circle 10 blacks, and 2 smokes. I'd like to get another four of these though.
>>30640614
Does that guy sell 74 mags too ?
>>30640604
Bulgarian orange and Romanian black I bought on akfiles, eastgerman on eBay from Northridge international, the black bulgarian came with my plum rguns 74 kit, and the Tantal bayonet came from robertrtg parts. Yugo are cheap and look like east german type 2, thinking of grabbing one next, and maybe a type 1 east german too. Even my Turkish mausers rock bayonets, lol
>>30637365
The Childers 74 blanks are actually Tantal blanks that you can build into a 74. For my Russian or Bulgarian builds I go to recreatorblanks, now those are legit
>>30640548
Definitely. It half the price of Northridge's offering.
If it doesn't have a frog or wrist strap, you can get those for under $10 from numrich.
>Frog
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/145250.htm
>Wrist strap
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/1137020.htm
The strap says "colors vary", but I got an EG blue one, so maybe write in the notes you'd like a blue one
>if you need to order them that is.
>>30640606
Xxxfencexxxx?
If so he's where my black Tantal furniture came from
>>30640623
Pretty sure but I'm not sure his prices are going to be the best for them. They are for Beryls, cheapest I've found. He's usually always got threads up in files marketplace (xxFENCExx)
>>30640636
I'm mad jelly anon. Idk what it is about bayonets that make me want to collect em, but I do.
>>30640645
I hope so. I emailed AKbuilder asking em about it coming with a frog, and why the picture looks so insanely clean, we'll see what happens.
Coming up in the world guys, got my new IWD furniture in the mail, a real sling the other day, and my second bayonet coming in the mail. I think my first AK is almost 'done' so to speak
>>30640651
Yup. These took 2 weeks to get versus 1 week last time. He's got good rep but fucking hell he's bad about giving tracking and updates.
>>30640651
Btw how are those mags?
>>30640653
> Holy fuck I think I rennet that ad on bp.
I think he has bakes for sale I might have to order some.
>>30640658
Good, next you need to start buying pouches and extra furniture for dressing up, and for thrashing in the woods. Go on akfiles in the marketplace, a seller named TP has a ton of accessories like pouches, oil bottles, cleaning kits, blank firing adapters, etc. You have to pay with money order but he is cheap and excellent quality! I love the vinyl Hungarian pouches he has, 5 mags, and pocket for cleaning kit and oil bottles.
Pic of my Hungarian in plum furniture for posterity
>>30640676
Been seeing weird shit on bp lately that's been tripping me out, kinda scary. About Fence, keep in mind your shit will come when it comes and he won't tell you when it ships, what tracking is, etc. But otherwise he seems legit.
>>30640672
The 7.62 are nice, the 5.45 are cheap, flimsy followers. About on par with tapco.
>>30640686
That does look nice. I was gonna try buying the rifleman webbing Pavel has on that facebook russian surplus page
>>30640702
That's what I've heard. They look cool though.
If I get a half-russian AK, can I buy the other half in russian parts and totally not replace the American parts because that would be illegal?
>>30640711
The east german stuff is super nice too.
/akg/ what is your opinion on what is the best AK rifle, along with derivatives that borrow from its platform, that can be purchased legally in the USA? I also extend this to include kits and not solely on the pure AK-## rifle.
>>30640732
I don't pay any attention to 922r, I just build away and live my life, and so should you. It's a waste of money and time to swap out perfectly good parts, rifle is fine.
>>30640698
I was trying to find one I have saved for a
> fuck me silly
Turns out it's a real item but who the fuck buys a used sex toy had to be a joke.
>>30640766
It's also impossible to prove if it's 922r compliant or not.
>>30640768
Pls xplain
>>30640777
Nice trips.
It's also not illegal to own a 922r noncompliant gun, it's only illegal to "manufacture" one.
>>30640783
Not my pic
> some nutcase on here from outside us tried to make full auto
Hey. /newguns/ here. I just bought my first handgun and I would also like to get a rifle, I wanted an SKS but i've heard their detachable magazines are trash.
What is the best cheap AK I can get around $500? WASR-10? Are there any other options?
Not that I have a problem with the WASR but I am very new to rifles and the only semi auto rifle I have fired is a .22.
How does one clean unstained AK wood? Tried fitting a part on to make sure it fit before I stained it and got it dirty
>>30640793
From the letter people have received it sou da like not maintaining 922r configuration is "illegal". Even on pre ban guns, only replacing parts with new original type keeps it 922r.
They could determine exactly where you parts came from with enough resources.
However it a highly unlikely they'll give a shit about izzy handguards, let alone yours.
>be innaNavy
>Chief is a total bro
>likes guns and is enthusiastic but doesn't know much about them
>he knows Ive been shooting for a long time so he likes to talk guns when we're bored on the ship
>"hey anon, I'm thinking about selling my AK. It's brand new and never fired. I paid 900 for it but you can get it for 850"
>I ask him who makes it and he says he doesn't know.
>tell him if he finds out I might be interested
>next day "anon I found out who made my ak. It's IO"
>mfw
>tfw can't fucking get the upper handguard back on
>>30640860
I own an I.O.
I like it fine.
I also paid $500 for it.
>>30640902
How many rounds you have through it ?
>>30640882
option 1
wear gloves and torque that shit
option 2
use a vice with a towel or shirt
option 3 (might mar your metal)
plyers or a wrench
>i torqued some surplus wood on my gas tube and i know that its never coming off
>>30633391
this is what we did in the army
Now I'm just posting to post
>>30640902
>I shot 50 rounds through my IO so that means it's good to go!
Wow, a tripfag being a dumb faggot!
>>30640833
>From the letter people have received
Source?
From the law:
(r) It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes except that this subsection shall not apply to—
(1) the assembly of any such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or
(2) the assembly of any such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.
>Assemble
>Not own
Also take "recommendation" letters from the ATF with a grain of salt.
They aren't worth the paper they're printed on and bear ZERO weight of the law.
>>30640915
Finally got it anon, thank you
and then
>PUTTING THE SHEPARDS HOOK + SAFETY PADDLE BACK
>>30641028
Alright I got it again. Actually I had trouble with this the other day; it's normal for the hammer and trigger pins to move a cunt hairs width right?
I need one of them retainer plates it seems
>>30640954
Regardless, it could be confiscated as contraband. You're definition of assembly is likely different than ATF.
>anon strips his AK to bare receiver and barrel, removes every US part, puts it back together with foreign parts
>I didn't assemble
It's an antiquated law, essentially a tax. None of my AKs are near 922r compliant, except one all original pre ban. However it *possible* they could be confiscated, and possible I could be charged with some crime for altering the rifles out of configuration
As a test why don't you take your favorite AK with foreign furniture and FCG to an ATF branch. Brag about how you just bought Russian surplus and combloc FCG parts and installed them.
I doubt you would
>>30640954
I'm waiting for someone to periscope this scenario. Elk into ATF branch, gloat about how you installed a bunch of foreign parts into your rifle and 922r doesn't apply to you.
Don't think they could snatch your rifle and threaten you? I'm waiting for the periscope so the 922r debate will be settled
>>30641028
>>30641047
the $4-6 dollar plate is a must lol
Heres that new IWD stock
I feel like this is bad?
>>30639688
>buying a commercial spec ak rifle.
>>30641100
a little gap is fine
>>30640914
All in all, maybe a few thousand.
My ONLY complaint is that the safety is not hard and snappy. It's very loose. I don't really know how to fix it though. I probably just need to replace the pin or the safety entirely.
>>30641111
idk anon I feel like it's more than a little
>>30641105
>(you)
>>30641065
>As a test why don't you take your favorite AK with foreign furniture and FCG to an ATF branch. Brag about how you just bought Russian surplus and combloc FCG parts and installed them.
I'd have zero problem with this, as they would have no chance in a court of law (with the "scumbag" lawyers I know) and it would likely get ruled unconstitutional as it's referencing a part of a law no longer in effect (the AWB)
As one individual put it:
>It would be extremely difficult to successfully prosecute someone under 922(r). The government would have to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, 1) that the requisite number of specific parts on the gun are of foreign manufacture, and 2) that you, the defendant, put together the gun with these parts after the date the law took effect.
>They would first have to justify a search and seizure of your gun in order to get a look at the parts... this could be a tall order. Obviously a cop at the range is not going to be able to tell from visual inspection whether you have the right number of domestic parts on a gun, and certainly wouldn't be able to tell whether you put it together. About the only way for them to get their hands on the gun to be able to give it any kind of through inspection would be for them to seize it as evidence associated with another crime.
>Then actually proving where each part was made... that would be very difficult, especially with the non-marked trigger, bolt, and magazine parts. They MIGHT be able to prove country of origin by having a metallurgist take a look at it. Some more readily recognizable parts might be easy for an expert witness to testify as to their origin, like bakelite furniture. The serialized parts could be shown to be foreign. It is very doubtful that the ATF or anybody would go to the expense to have a metallurgist analyze the parts though.
I wish them well in this endeavor, but it would ultimately be for naught.
>MFW
>>30641165
Furthermore only one individual has ever been charged with 922r violations, during the AWB and even then he was never convicted of said violations.
>Trader Vics had their FFL pulled over violating 922(r) (installing bayonets on imported SKS rifles). The case is Trader Vic's Ltd. vs. Paul O'Neill, 169 F. Supp. 2nd 957 (ND Indiana 2001).
>This was before the Assault Weapons Ban expired, however, and the section that 922(r) relies on was still part of law. If you actually read through 922(r), it calls that section right at the start, and cannot stand alone without that section's legal definitions (which aren't legally valid anymore). From a legal standpoint, that section no longer exists, and 922(r) can't stand on its own.
The ATF is trying to scare people into following rules and regulations that don't exist in the law, in order to curtail new gun owners.
That's it.
do i need a special adapter or can i just buy those sexy wire folding stocks for my WASR10?
tl;dr:
how do i put folding stock on WASR10
>>30641165
Exactly, but forensics isn't exactly expensive anymore.
The point of taking the rifle into ATF and telling them it a not 922r is to relieve them of that burden. Confiscation without due process is legal is reasonable. Admitting rifles aren't 922r would be reasonable cause.
People have been prosecuted. I'm not sure what the circumstances were, but it's happened. Likely people they wanted to nail for every possible charge so whatever sticks would put them away for awhile.
I'm just saying it's POSSIBLE to be charged, not likely by any stretch. The likelihood of prosecution while doing nothing else illegal is practically zero. Commit some felony that would be hard for the prosecution to prove, bet your ass they would bring some 922r charge
>>30641199
>People have been prosecuted
Proofs?
>Commit some felony that would be hard for the prosecution to prove, bet your ass they would bring some 922r charge
Again proofs?
Find me 1, just 1 person even charged with 922r violation, beyond the one I posted, let alone convicted.
In reality it is solely applied to importers and dealers, not the everyday average joe.
>but the ATF will never say that, because that means they "aren't the law"
And you know how those in power stay that way?
Surely not by giving up said "power"
>>30641199
I agree with >>30641245
It's my understanding that there haven't been any actual 922r convictions. It's more aimed at importers and such.
>>30641245
Again, possible
You buy rifle June 2015 this is recorded
You are caught with non 922r rifle in June 2016
They don't need a video tape of you swapping parts for proof
Swapping parts out is manufacturing. If not what is? Rivets? Forging steel?
What if you assembled a kit gun?
Confiscation could happen. Can argue morality or unknown prosecutions all you want. Proofs will be heading down to the ATF with your fav AK and show'n tell how your rifle is not compliant and you installed the parts.
If this is unacceptable risk, than prosecution is possible
>>30641293
How can they determine their parts are 922r noncompliant?
>>30631746
http://www.strawpoll.me/10758719
>>30641341
autism
>>30641293
>possible
But very improbable.
They don't want that "law" ever being challenged by a competent lawyer.
>Proofs will be heading down to the ATF with your fav AK and show'n tell how your rifle is not compliant and you installed the parts
>What is the 5th Amendment
Burden of proof is on the State.
I don't have to prove my innocence, they have to prove me guilty.
So you have zero evidence, correct?
Even though you said "People have been prosecuted"?
Though so.
It's the fear of prosecution that keeps people from allegedly "disobeying" the "law", nothing more.
>But you go ahead and keep your AK 922(r) compliant, out of fear.
>>30641341
They can't. Period.
>>30641341
Science dawg dem got dat science
>inb4 unlikely
Easy man, test the theory. Go buy Russian furniture with izzy logos and QA stamps on every piece. Head down to the ATF office and be real smug. Real "am I being detained sir".
>>30641363
Kek. I'm just making a kinda philosophical point.
None of my rifles are 922r compliant
Just saying it's POSSIBLE to have rifle confiscated or be charged.
>>30641364
>Go buy Russian furniture with izzy logos and QA stamps on every piece. Head down to the ATF office
EZPZ
"Well my guy Bob got some blank wood stock in from Russia, and made this furniture on his woodworking equipment. He also got some "authentic" stamps to imprint into the wood to make it appear "original"
Now what?
>>30641363
>>30641364
>>30641359
Exactly. They really can't.
It's to fuck over importers.
>>30641377
Not even close.
They'll never touch it outside of importers and manufacturers for fear that it will, rightfully so, be overturned.
The ONLY reason people comply is out of fear.
>>30641396
Haha fuck Christ
You don't think they could test shellac composition? You think FBI couldn't tell difference between some Giddens and whatever the fuck CCCP used?
Top kek mate
So let's eliminate all that and get straight to the heart of it.
Just tell them it's all foreign, and give them a little reason to get off their ass and take your rifle.
>>30641409
Please do this, KVAR trigger blow and just want the factory milspec
>>30641417
>You don't think they could test shellac composition?
>Implying shellac is illegal or testable as to the region it originated at.
Protip - Most shellac is currently produced in India.
>Just tell them it's all foreign, and give them a little reason to get off their ass and take your rifle.
Why make it easy?
>Again what is the 5th Amendment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdeo7Q2E5cE
>>30641409
That's the only reason anyone complies right? Fear, a sense of being in the right?
I suppose fear and coincidence. I also love my children, and I don't kill them, so I don't follow that law about killing kids out of fear, but beyond that
>>30641451
>but why make it easy
>B-but it's not illegal to own
Now maybe they wouldn't prosecute, or couldn't prosecute I dint know. Certainly could confiscate, and POSSIBLE they could press charges.
Anyhow I'm not a overly lawful person desu. But I don't commit felonies and I contribute. I'm far more valuable out of jail then in. Having plum fiurniture isn't doesn't have criminal intent. This it was keeps you from being prosecuted. Not "am I being detained sir" shit
>>30641454
Holy strawman.
I've heard of goalpost moving but this is ridiculous.
>Special Pleading fallacy
>Appeal to emotion fallacy
>Because I don't "comply" with a law that doesn't apply to me, means you should kill your wife's son because that's totally the same thing.
>>30633305
>>30633391
this is viable if you have a zeroing target that actually copies the size of a 300m target to shoot at from 25m (a very small target)
this works with 5.56 and is the army standard to zero optics to 25m, not so sure about 5.45
i zeroed my kobra to 50m then zeroed to 100m which is what 5.45 and 7.62x39 are supposed to be zeroed to if you wanna be authentic. im sure theres a reason behind that.
>>30641482
Fair enough.
But don't think that because your firearm is not 922(r) compliant that you are breaking the law either.
Here's another little rub about 922(r).
If a gun can be "brought into compliance" with a mag change that gun is still considered compliant.
And you need what, 7 components in an AK to be compliant?
An ALG FCG, a US made muzzle device, and an onhand US made mag can make almost every rifle "compliant".
The thing is, they don't have to be installed on the rifle at the time, you just have to own them.
>>30641485
>why make it easy
>not illegal
Kek
Analogy
You are required to have a front and back license plates on your car at all times
My buddie's Porche 911 never gets pulled over for this
Some Jamal in a beat up hooptie will get pulled over without doubt
Just saying possible. Laws are just language and ideas man. No prosecutions (allegedly) isn't proof that the law lacks teeth
>>30641513
side note, this works with 5.56 because the round will be center mass on a 300m target when zeroed to 25m, in calculation with the arc of the round. 5.45 is likely slightly different and you'd be better off zeroing to a longer distance than 25m.
>>30641523
This is much further than I've thought about 922r to be honest.
Waiting on my 104, plum furniture, izhmash triangle, maybe and SRVV brake I dunno. Oh plum and black mags without a doubt.
Also, how can "the skinhead" be so aesthetic and artistic
Pic related
>>30641524
>(allegedly)
Find them then.
Just one. ONE.
It's been a law for 20+ years.
>possibility≠probability
I honestly can't wait for the day when someone is tried for 922(r) and it's wholly struck down.
It has as many teeth as a chicken.
>It had one at it's inception, but now, not even a remnant
>>30641548
>This is much further than I've thought about 922r to be honest
It's more than most do, honestly.
But I've got boredom and a nasty case of freedom that helps me decipher the law and how it applies to me.
>the "sporting" clause is unconstitutional, but I doubt it will be challenged anytime soon.
>people are more worried about the machinegun registry being reopened.
That skinhead does have some great taste.
>apparently so do you.
>>30641570
He's a an interesting guy.
>has a bleeding tattoo of brass knuckles with STFU
>his 74 is like a Rothko
Just plum, albeit stellar examples, somehow photographs it in a way that captures his minimalist idea.
The skinhead what a guy
Hates Jews I'd assume
>painting by Jew
Skinhead blowing my mind sometimes
>>30633555
>>30633590
>>30633713
Surplus ammo is everytime a corrosive ammo?
>>30641613
Skinhead is based
>>30641597
I try not to judge people on their beliefs or dispositions.
>Only on their tastes in AKs and AK accessories.
>>30641628
I've always thought it curious how peoples beliefs and dispositions present themselves in their rifles. You really can tell a lot about someone by a rifle that they put effort into
>>30641628
He has this minimalist post apocalyptic aesthetic that's so dope haha, streaks of glitzy commercialism through this kinda dreary fallen angel canvas . I love it!
>>30632116
wasn't there a tutorial on how to make these handgaurds?
>>30640827
AKs for 500. Get an IO.
500 dollar WASRs probably won't happen ever again. Lol.
>>30635318
>It's a dick move to sell a problem gun and not warn the buyer, but people do it frequently
Yes, everyone does it.
>>30632990
Where can you still get a wasr that isn't second-hand?
>>30635679
You can buy using a couple of visa gift cards. I've done that once
>>30640827
You can get a single stack npap
>>30641120
remove top cover, bring safety lever up like pic related, push in the safety lever.
Are the Egyptian AKs good? I know a person looking to sell one.
>>30643095
its hit or miss with older aks, just inspect it senpai
>>30643098
What should I look for?
>>30631824
Ignoring Ebola, Sleeping sickness, Rabies, Malaria, IED's, ISIS, literally piss poor sanitation, dangerous game, and the birthplace of the negro.
2/10 would rather freeze to death.
>>30642333
Not me.
I ordered an Obzor for my SGL31 and it arrived yesterday, and I'm a little confused as to how to properly mount it to the rifle.
I keep reading that it has to be "properly" or "correctly" fitted to the side rail. What does that mean? I understand there is that little screw on the bottom of the mount that raises and lowers a piece of metal to squeeze tighter or looser on the rail, but how do I correctly fit it? I can get it on there really tight to where I almost need a tool of some sort to get the lever to lock all the way, but I'm just not sure what it means to properly mount it.
I don't want to take it out shooting today to sight it in only to have mounted it incorrectly and have it lose zero after cleaning the 7n6 I'll be shooting and wasting all that time.
>>30643271
You just want to tune that screw until it's as tight as you can get it while still being able to open and close the mount easily by hand. Don't go overboard
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Here's the first coat of amber shellac
>>30643328
Cool, thank you
>>30639852
seek therapy for your OCD
it's fine, don't fuck with it, you might make it worse.
>>30640008
why would you ask /akg/ for advice and then disregard everything we say
>>30640008
that's because it's not a blemish or scratch in the finish, it's material that rubbed off on the finish, like wood dust trapped in sandpaper.
it will not buff out unless you buff it down to almost no park left.
Are there any "color tipped" AK rounds? I know 5.56 has many versions of the same NATO round, so is there any analogue for 7.62x39?
Anyone got any good guides for building an AKM from a parts kit?
Nick, of you see this. I realize I don't have your shipping address. I'm going to the postop office soon but they close at 5, if I don't have it by then I'll have to send them out monday
>>30644444
Wasted
