Is 30 rounds the ideal magazine size?
7/10 they take forever to reload without a $300 speedloader
>>30592171
I guess, but it bothers me to no end that most ammo companies sell in increments of 20.
>>30592209
Same as hot dog buns.
>>30592245
I know, it's a fucking pain in the ass having to buy two packs of 20 buns to put my 30 assault wieners in
>>30592259
It just makes me buy in bulk so I don't have to do math when shopping.
>buy three 20 round boxes or just a 300 box?
>buy the 300
>>30592209
So buy ammo in packs of 3 and you have enough to fill 2 mags. The wonders of math...
it's the most practical physical size. Get much larger and it's unwieldy. When ammo gets smaller in the future we'll see higher capacity with the same physical size
>>30592201
https://youtu.be/AnUk1aNp1PE?t=2s
>>30592285
If you're buying ammo in packs of 20, you're doing it wrong.
I would start with packs of 480 or 500 if you want capitalist or commie ammo respectively
I like 20 round mags when i'm shooting with friends.
1 box/per mag is easier than having to keep track of a half box when we load back up again.
When I'm just target shooting by myself I use 10 round mags so I don't use as much.
>>30592171
I think there should never be limits but I think 25 round mags is a decent balance for all calibers.
30 round mags for some .308 or larger caliber rifles are huge but 20 rounds is too low a capacity in my opinion.
Some guys like 20 round mags on AR's to make it easier to shoot prone or bench.
Would 25 be a happy medium?
>>30592640
I feel like 25 is a bit too half-assed to really be worth it. 5 rounds of intermediate rifle ammo doesn't really take up much space, and I think at that point most people would either say "fuck it" and go with the 30 rounders, or just use 20's for maximum comfort when shooting from a bench.
.308 user here, I prefer tens (or just half-loaded twenties) for casual shooting, twenty for "practical applications"
smaller mags have a number of benefits. reloading more often makes you more adept at reloading. if cost is a factor, they also encourage ammunition conservation. and when it comes to rifle-calibers, 10 simply looks pretty.
obviously if someone were to be shooting at you, you would want as many as conveniently possible however
>>30592554
Could you just load 30 round mags with 20 rounds?
>>30592833
Yeah but they don't sit at the bench very well with my sandbags and stuff.
>>30592201
>Podavach Reloader is only $75 max
>Will load AK and AR mags
What the fuck loader costs $300?
http://podavach.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTmkNJmuXo
>>30592953
>$75 still
whatever capacity is necessary to get me atleast 3 seconds of full auto fire
20s motherfucker 20s. also i like 7.62 battle rifles so what the fuck do i know
20's and 10's at the range. If I have 30 rounds I want to shoot 30 rounds and usually the last 10-15 are "let's see how tactical I can get".
But I'm a poorfag student.
>>30593028
go out of your poorfag hut and get ~$5 for wood and get your daddy to help you with a trim router to make yourself a wooden one
>can't get extra chromosome off the keyboard quick enough to think about it for a sec
>>30593312
Okay sperg, I never said I couldnt make the thing for next to nothing, I'm saying its fucking crazy for people to buy the thing when it can be made for, like you said, $5 in wood.
>fucking autism sperged so hard all over the keyboard you gotta get a towel to wipe it off.
>>30593333
why spend all that money on an already made gun when you can easily get a block of steel and make one for cheaper?
>>30593362
Because cutting a pace of wood into a banana shape is a little different than having to buy a drill press and jig to accommodate.
>>30592953
I don't really get why all these "aids" are even a thing? The time it takes him to organize the rounds the right way is about the same time it takes me to load a magazine by hand
![mwg-40-round-magazine-vs-magpul-pmag[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/l1ZmE87.jpg "mwg-40-round-magazine-vs-magpul-pmag[1].jpg")
>>30592171
40 is ideal
>just two inch longer, 33% more capacity
>not too heavy
>stays double stack design instead of casket mags that are prone to failure
>works fine with steel
>most ammo comes in boxes of 20, takes exactly 2
>>30593511
30 is ideal because its the most reliable
>>30592833
Yes you could but it's added weight, and you try taking your rifle out shooting at person sized gongs and tell yourself "I'll just load 20 and the last 10 I'll pat myself on the back for self control"
>>30592842
>muh sandbags muh bench shootan
I reserve that level of autism for my .22 and turkey gun. I haven't shot an AR from a bench since I sighted in my whoracle and stuck it in the safe at my family's land.
>>30593370
so you would cut a piece of wood into a banana shape rather than pay $75?
>>30592953
>Ukraine
>No shipments for Russia
Damn they are butthurt...
>>30593557
>supply the country you're fighting against
America logic.
I prefer 30, anything less defeats the purpose of the weapon IMO, and anything more is overkill.
>>30593590
Sorry, I forgot to add, assuming a regular 556 AR. pistols are good around 20 for me.
>>30593540
My AR is a made for hunting on the bench and target shooting. It has a heavy profile barrel and and a 14x scope on it. Its not made for whipping around at different target or doing run and guns.
>sperging over how other people use their guns.
>>30593511
40s look retarded long to me. And forget prone shooting of any kind.
>>30592171
I have 10-20-30-40 mags from a couple vendors for my AR. 30-40 are sure fun, but they stick out so far that they kind of get in the way. I'd say that 20 is actually ideal for poratability, and if you're skilled enough with reloads the difference in negligible.
Then again, I only own one 20 round magazine, because they cost just as much as 30s in most cases, so IDGAF.
>>30593571
You do realize that the whole deal is a kike-fest where you are forced to pay 75$+ for something barely woth 10$? It would be fucking glorious to jew all that wextra money from ebil russkiez for something barely usefull.
>>30593613
>And forget prone shooting of any kind.
works with 45 degree sights
>>30592245
When will this meme die? Several brands of hot dog and bun both shelve in eight packs.
>>30592171
>Is 30 rounds the ideal magazine size?
I think it's just a good number of rounds before magazines begin to get obnoxiously long.
Personally, I prefer a 10-20rd mag in all my guns. Even 30 is a bit obnoxious bs 20, and 10rd mags are just really nice size.
Idk, I really like the look of 20rd magazines a lot more. They're so much more aesthetic.
I prefer 20s honestly. I have an underfolder AK and I try to run the gun as light as possible so it just makes sense to me
>>30592259
>assault weiner
l-lewd
>>30592533
Dubs, thank you for this link.
Yes.
Based of nypd cops only hitting their target 18% of the time.
A 30rd will get you 6 hits on target.
I find loading a magazine to be cathartic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEqu2ITiOPI
What's all this "I need a tool to help me push 30 bullets into a magazine" when clicking them into the magazine is part of the shooting experience? Do you also take your gun to the smith to get it cleaned when you get home from the range?
>>30596111
fucking Magpul put a curve on their newest gen 20rd mags and I hate it.
pic related: ass.
>>30596936
bitch about aesthetics all you want but the new ones work unlike the old
>>30592171
Why is there surefire 60rd ak mags, coffin mags etc.?
>>30593312
Thank you for pointing it out.
Jeez, these sperglords can't even fucking think. I made my reloader in a few hours. It looks like a piece of shit, but it works.
>>30592259
Ban ketchup thingies that go up.
Sensible bbq laws.
Nobody needs 30 weiners.
>>30595516
Yes but it didn't start that way and that's what most people remember. Quit nit picking.
>>30592171
50 rounds.
>>30597003
>30 dollars a mag
KEK
>>30596985
and the "several brands of hotdogs package in 8 now" is a lie.
>>30597018
I got mine for like $22 on sale or some shit. The AR57 mags were even cheaper at the time.
>>30597003
>>30597029
Call us back when FN makes a proper rifle using that magazine design.
>>30597018
>$30 a mag is expensive
Have you ever actually owned a gun that wasn't an AR or AK?
>>30597138
But they did.
>>30597029
>AR57 mags
whats the difference? same mags different manufacturer?
>>30592640
Has to be in multiples of 10 for stripper clips
>>30597238
Yeah. AR57 makes P90 mags as well, for their AR-57 AR upper that shoot 5.7. They come in black with windows, smoked dark, and light smoke (Like the FN mags). They work very well and are compatible with each other.
Hey Marisa, can I put some side rails on my PS90 if I've got the TROSUSA low profile mount on? How do they attach?
For an AR-15, I tend to gravitate toward 30's. I usually shoot fewer than 100 rounds during a range session, so when I pack my range bag two or three pre-loaded 30's keep me from having to reload each mag 2-3 times. I could carry more 10's or 20's, but the 30's are convenient. It isn't like the 30's save time, as I am generally taking my time and concentrating on accuracy instead of "hurr-durr-how-many-rounds-can-I-shoot-in-a-minute." The only downside is that a 30 isn't ideal for some bench rests and can be a pain of a pivot point in the prone position without angled sights.
10-20's are nice, I have no complaints except if I only bring two mags and a box of ammo I have to waste practice time. Like 30's, mine have always seemed 100% reliable in feeding.
40-60 I see zero use for, but I wouldn't try to stop someone else who liked them from having them. They're almost impossible to store on the gun in a case or safe, there are increased reliability issues, and they are definitely unwieldy, especially in prone position. They also look a bit dorky. If I really wanted more than 20-30 rounds, I'd just use a mag clip or some rubber bands to snap two together side by side, one staggered just below the other.
The drum mags are the worst. Reliability is in the toilet, and getting a decent grip on the rifle is an iffy proposition, to the degree that if someone's opening fire at me with an AR, I can only hope they DO have a drum mag. They also look positively stupid to me, like someone's trying to make a Tommy gun/AR hybrid. I suppose it might be fun to bumpfire one while plinking, if accuracy and reliability don't matter at all.
>>30597347
The one in this image? Looks like they just screw on at the side.
>>30597453
So does the top rail, I mean. But there's probably just some longer screws that accommodate for both.
>>30597509
Thats what you'll need. Do you have a ACOG, Aimpoint, or some rail mount?
>>30596922
>plebian has never had their fingers bleed from loading uzi mags.
>>30593613
That's what they said when they switched from 20 to 30 round mags.
>>30597560
if you don't load your own mags because it hurts your little fingers, you shouldn't be calling other people "plebian"
>>30593644
>Charging people more than what it costs to make something is Jewish
???
I like 30 on all my AR's and AK's because they act as a nice monopod when shooting from phone.
>>30592201
You do realize just about every common magazine these days can be loaded with stripper clips using a $1 tool, right?
Then again it seems like fucking everyone has forgotten about what stripper clips are recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So_OEDJpvXI
I've fought enough people in my life that I don't have to fight springs too. Use loaders, save yourself grief.
>>30597560
>whining about hurt fingers from loading uzi mags
>calls other plebeians
Bruh...
>>30596922
Really depends on the gun, desu. I've never had a problem with a rifle mag, or 1911 mags or something, but filling a new polymer glock mag to capacity is almost impossible by hand. Plus I don't like to get fingerprints on my carry ammo, just in case.
>>30592953
For $300
I'd expect it to sort, count, orientate and load the bullets automatically.
>>30597560
>>30597560
Bet youve never touched an uzi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W66TPHy5lJw 600 round mag is ideal
>>30597776
Most of us don't buy shitty ammo that comes on clips.
>>30597986
Did you say....
CLIPS!?
>>30592171
the ideal magazine size is infinity rounds
>>30597003
damn i love the PS90. always have, always will.
>>30597029
there was a sale back in march where they were $17 each, if you bought 5 or more at once. they were real FN mags. if you bought 10 you got a shirt and hat. I'll try to hunt through my email folder for gun stuff to see if i can find it for you. it wasnt buds or classic or sportsmans guide.
also sometimes florida gun exchange has sales on 5.7 ammo, the one dude in the Ormond beach store is a bullpup guy, and there is an old guy that buys cases of it a month, so they get a bunch and sometimes have a weekend sale. dunno if its on the site or not, but the old dude is an FN freak. he knows people in the company and had FACTORY blue anodized SCARS, SLP's and FNX's. like the one the pro-team uses.
>>30597784
that's right up there with
>I don't know what it's called I just know the sound it makes when it takes a man's life"
as "things someone would say to convince people he's a combat veteran when he's not a veteran at all"
>>30597986
Then just buy the clips alone and put your ammo of choice on them for storage, you can buy hundreds for under $20
>>30593372
Some people have arthritis and can't handle reloading magazines themselves
>>30598196
Thats sick.
>>30598335
>buy the clips alone so you can load ammo onto clips to load into magazines
Do you enjoy digging holes to fill back up
>>30598173
>Current year
>Not having a mobius ribbon-shaped magazine
>>30593627
>20
>Not the sexy 25 round magazines
>>30596922
>What are hand deformities and arthritis
>>30597238
Brands are also responsible for quality and price
>>30598126
Yes I did.
Ordered a side rail. But one of the $30 ones that extends a bit so I probably won't like it.
>>30592171
I only need one.
>>30592171
>For 556.
For Run & Gun I use 30 Rounders. (M855/XM193)
For Precision Shooting (77gr TMK's) I use 20 Rounders as they allow for better comfort on the ground.
>for 6.5 or larger
Magazines I shoot 10's/20's or a 25 if i am going to be doing ALOT of shooting.
>>30596922
that has to be the most absurdly badass video ever
>>30596922
that video... god why does everything have to be all sour and serious nowadays? what happened to silly over the top vidya like that?
>>30597182
Why are mags expensive? It's one of the simplest parts and made of plastic and a spring. I should be able to buy ammo in pre-loaded magazines and not give a damn
>>30601268
You're more than welcome to set up a manufacturing line for some and see how low you can get the prices down.
What about 15 round magazines?
>>30592201
I can hold ten+ rounds of 7.62x39 in one hand, and nearly shove them straight in. Maybe takes me a few seconds per handful. 10, 15 seconds per ak mag. The fuck is wrong with you anon? Stuff those mags man!
If you are really that hard up. Just get a Lula. $35 dollars. If it's a pistol mag. Get an uplula, seriously just get one use it. It's fast as shit.
Oh and dump all of your ammo out of the holders. You don't pour shotglasses of fuel into a vehicle, you don't need to daintily pluck each individual round out of a holder.
>>30593613
Just imagine if they brought back side loading magazines.
I'll admit, I'd be curious to see if a 45 round AR mag sticking out of the left side would be feasible or cause more problems when trying to hide close to cover.
>>30597776
having extra clips and loading 10 on a clip and then chunking those into a mag is actually way quicker and easier on your hands if you load a lot.
jesus christ that p90 anime tripfag still posts here and with the same pics he posted here like 5 years ago. get help.
