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/meg/- Military Enlistment General
Aviation edition
>Discord
https://discord.gg/0y3eBT2ji4rHI4TM
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>http://www.sealswcc.com/
SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forum
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
first for the US Navy
>>30383493
Second for any information on Navy Cyber Warfare Engineer
First for the mighty mighty air force
Welp as usual the threads off to a shit start
>>30383732
There's like 20 of them active duty right now and you need a masters degree in programming + know all coding languages to even apply. The screening process is rigorous and the job is the single most selective job in the US Navy.
>>30383732
The job is highly classified but basically what you do is combat enemy cyber operations by browsing both surface and dark web and setting FBI styled cyber traps for people to click on and get their information beamed up. This goes to NSW who then either blows the place up or goes in and kills everyone to extract intel.
>>30384413
Sounds like the gayest too and that's hard considering the navy
>>30384460
>gayest
Your waging war on the new frontier- the internet. Nobody else other than the FBI cyber crimes division does this.
>>30384474
Bro all you're doing is sitting at a computer.
>>30382499
>>30382526
Interesting, cause right before i got out a FC2 Spy tech got a 100k bonus for a 6 year re up.
>>30383017
very interesting
>>30383493
Its bretty good mane
>>30384474
Holy shit this gold
>>30384492
Someone can collapse governments and stock markets just by sitting at a computer. You can steal sensitive data and other goodiest from a computer. If you look at it as "just sitting at a computer" then the job probably isn't for you. If you like the spook world try CT rates.
>>30384474
>Your waging war on the new frontier- the internet.
>>30384513
I've worked with spooks in country. That's war. Not trudging through the spoopy dark webs
>>30384529
>>30384529
>>30384505
>>30384505
>>30384492
>>30384492
>t. uneducated 11b
while i wont deny you can kick my ass i can fuck your bank accounts up afterwards
>>30384556
You are the best kind of pathetic
>>30384556
Nope try again
>>30384614
p-pls no bully... s-sir
No all jokes and faggy anime speak aside CWE's a cool job if you can stomach being king of the autists because thats what you do. CWE's are put in charge of crypto offices, intelligence specialists, etc. All those goodies.
>>30384703
Ha your work encompasses everything it takes to gain a location and target. Different continents but same world. Respect bud
>>30384721
There was a warrant officer CWO4 on my ship in charge of all the CTs who was without a doubt the saltiest mother fucker ive ever met in my entire life. he was in for like 26 years and seriously did not give a flying fuck. Plus he was smart as shit and great at his job so he basically got away with whatever he wanted cause he was such hot shit. Id be amazed if he didnt make CWO5.
>>30384754
warrant officers in general are the best. they have the pure unbridled not giving a fuck of senior enlisted and the authority of an officer in one package.
>>30384784
Generally id agree with you but the STO on board was this fat black dude and he was the definition of a house Nigger. he would bend over backwards and fuck over as many enlisted as possible to please officers. I felt bad for him thats how cucked he was but the other 3 were good with that one in particular being so salty he was dripping haha. I remember hearing he got his Underway OOD letter at like 10 years in when he was a chief and he has been stadning OOD udnerway ever since. So hes been OODing for like 16 years straight so he was the most trusted one on board. He didnt even have to stand watch obviously but he literally loved to and wanted to do it.
>>30383469
Can anyone tell me more about the Air National Guard? Some anon was mentioning that the guard is pretty based and I want to be a fighter pilot
Currently sophomore at Ohio State studying Data Analytics, considering ROTC. I don't want to end up in an MOS that will make me want to kill myself but my autism from playing Ace Combat as a kid peaked when that anon mentioned his base having F16 pilot positions open for the past year
>>30384984
>Air Force
>Non combatant
>In one job
It's like you want to be a cuck for a living.
Can anyone recommend an ASVAB study book. Wanting to go SF, and want to make sure I score well enough. I especially need to work on Mechanical Info and Auto & Shop.
I want to dick around with electronics/circuits/electrical systems, travel the world, and maybe go to space to dick around with electronics/circuits/electrical systems.
Is there something in the air force for that? What kind of gig is pic related? Not being familiar with military stuff, I'm having a hard time navigating what it is.
Going through college now, does that change my options?
My college has an AFROTC, should I look into that?
I dunno if I should go for a pilot slot then try to switch at flight school in the navy
or switch from an air to a ground MOS with the marines
maybe I'll like flying.
>>30385333
Nice trips bud
Go big or go home. Join the Corps, faggot.
>>30385197
I got an 88 without studying at all. It was pretty easy, but if you want to study ask a recruiter. They should know of a book
>>30385377
I'm not to worried about my AFQT score, I got a 93 when I took it in highschool, but that was years ago. And I've never known much about Auto and Shop stuff, which I'll need to go SF.
>>30385451
>I got a 93
>Auto and Shop stuff, which I'll need to go SF.
Wouldnt you have had to have scored well on those thought or else your 93 would have been much lower?
>>30385503
AFQT doesn't take all the sections into account. Just the two math, two English, and the science, I think. Electrical, Mechanical Info, Auto and Shop don't factor in.
AFQT is what you need to do well in to enlist in X branch, but to get specific jobs you have to do well in specific sections.
>>30385520
Oh right i forgot, i guess i just figured if you did that good to get a 93 that you would be all around smart. Im sure your score was fine did you compare it to SF reqs?
>>30385550
I am smart, but have little knowledge in things that interest me. I'm 21 now, and starting to get more of an interest in stuff like shop, mainly for practical purposes, but still have a lot to learn.
Took it years ago, don't still have my scores, not sure if I can even get them, since they've expired.
>>30385589
Also, screw it, I just ordered the "ASVAB for Dummies" book.
>>30385589
>>30385611
Mate chances are youd be fine im just sayin. You gotta realize most people are insanely stupid and the asvab is easy. If you are smart enough to get a 93 you most likely qualified for every job there is. But better safe then sorry i suppose.
Need advice asap I'm taking the ASVAB MONDAY
Give me the red pill on 19K, 88M, 19D and 74D
The recruiters made these sound so sweet but what's the war time/peace time reality
Need the truth
>>30385961
Bro this is like the 10th time youve posted this. Are you not reading what people are saying
>>30384984
I wanted to pilot shit so I'm putting in my Warrant Officer packet inna Army
Any anons give advice? 11b, applying for literally the only non shit WO job available
>>30385961
My best friend from high school enlisted when I did, I went 11x, he went 19k
He tells me it's cool as fuck when he actually gets to do shit inna tank, but he practically lives in the motor pool
88m are truck drivers, self explanatory
The rest of the 19 series is okay from people I know
Don't know/have experience with the rest
>>30384784
>warrant officers in general are the best
From what I've seen, they are the glue that holds the military together. Without good warrant officers, the military would be a clusterfuck of retards.
Should I enlist in the British Military since we exited the EU and Spain might try and take Gibraltar.
>>30385611
I studied with the same book too. What this guy >>30385636 said is right. But don't slack off and shrug off the studying. You may have forgotten a few easy things, so use your studying materials to iron out any problems. Study seriously. Qualify. Examine your options.
Glossary non prior service here, do I have a chance to reenlist?
>>30385002
What? I just want to be a part time fighter pilot is that so much of a cuck thing to ask for?
>>30385961
>>30386038
Fucking this.
You have received answers multiple times.
>19k
You do nothing. Sometimes, you do a cool thing
>88m
You fucking drive. There is nothing else to it. Nothing.
>19D
You develop one of a number of complexes. You aren't infantry, despite how badly you want to be.
>74D
You know what?
Take 74D.
>>30385961
You're dumb, so you'll fit in the army well.
>>30386639
>
???
>>30383469
Any civil affairs babbies here? Looking into getting into CA, most likely going to try for this hhc near my new home. Not talking about active duty.
>>30387450
>>30387446
>>30386038
>Oh no someone wants informative answers from people that actually served and are not some quota horny recruiter
Fucking God damn Fucking retards Fucking kill your Fucking selves
For Fucking 5 threads I got smart ass DUMB nigger responses. You know what? I don't belIeve any of your are anything more that fuck autistic mother FUCKING God damn FUCKING FAT FUCKING WEEBOOS
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHHHHHHGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>30386280
Thanks
>>30388350
Maybe we dont wanna spoon feed some faggot
>>30388384
I'll spoon feed your ass faggot
>>30388474
>I'll spoon feed your ass faggot
What did he mean by this?
>>30385197
Same boat. The study aids in your local bookstore should help. For reference I got mine off of B&N. I own three and McGraw-Hill's is my favorite.
>>30385197
Damn id help you all day for some math help. I'm a Fuckin prodigy at mechanical and shop. But borderline retarded at math
>>30388056
There are no AD CA units to my knowledge.
>>30386239
Apachebro here. What're your questions?
>>30388682
Not that guy but what are your weaknesses?
>>30388742
Just math in general. Yes I know how to add subtract divide multiply but anything more complicated than that I can't do it. I was working on cars at 12 rather than studying
>>30389902
Does this make sense to you? If so, you should be mostly fine.
What exactly does 37F do? Any description I've found is pretty vague.
What sorts of army jobs would look good if I went on to try to get into the FBI?
I know that any civil job looks at military police like a negative, so I'm guessing a computer or psychology based MOS is my best bet. Anyone have any advice?
>>30383469
I'm about to finish my 4th year of college (History, 3.4 GPA) and I know that I want to join the Army, but I don't know whether I want to commission or go Enlisted. I'd like to stay in for 20 if that matters.
Another thing, I was thinking that I'd like to go into something with intelligence. I've heard to do that you need to get Top Secret Clearance, which requires an interview. There are 2 things that worry me and make me wonder if I should even go for a TS job:
-When I was in my freshman year I smoked weed twice
-When I was 16-18 (when I first discovered 4chan) I went through a kiddy porn phase.
I haven't touched or looked at any of that degenerate shit in years but I don't know anything about statute of limitations or if the Army would care. Anyone have advice?
>>30386475
The only good officers in the military are specwar. Everyone else can be replaced with senior enlisted.
>>30388350
>be retarded
>join army
>>30390214
KEKKKK dude what's got you so upset today
>>30390214
>computer warfare is cool too guys
>>30390344
nothing im actually going to become a non-specwar officer in the far future, if you just look at them they perform leadership tasks that anyone can do while forgetting that the most effective form of leadership is servant leadership.
>>30390357
Hahaha I like you man. My last gig in the army was as a headquarters xo. Worst job ever.
You are too stupid for the Army and that is a special kind of achievement.
>>30389982
Got a pic not for ants?
>>30390645
>>30390831
What the fuck do I need that shit for
>>30390890
Don't enlist
>>30386639
why are those shorts so fucking long? Doesn't it interfere with running and shit?
>>30391029
Wait until you're running in 30 degree weather. You'll want your shorts as long as possible. Sweats? Ha! That's for below freezing PT. Of course, I'm referring to the Infantry and Combat Arms. Pogue units wear pajamas and roast marshmallows around a campfire for PT. And no, they do not interfere with running.
>>30390112
For fucks sake, just like the faggot asking about driving trucks and all that other stuff, you ask this EVERY FUCKING THREAD. Just leave out the weed and delete or destroy the hard drive.
>>30390890
Way to bite the hand that feeds you.
>>30391002
i dont need quadratic formulas to be in the muhreens infantry or drive a truck
Navy guy is picking me up Monday, taking me to the office. I'm gonna sign some shit.
Tell me cool jobs, fun shit to do.
I have no idea what to do.
>>30384460
Nah this is gayer, it's like being a POG Marine. Except everyone thinks you are a seaman
>>30392917
You do learn many trades though, yet master none
>>30390110
Get something in cyber, work your way towards doing any sort of incident response or forensics that you can.
>>30391972
bro dont sign anything till youve done a little bit of research
>>30391972
First thing turn off your trip and never use it again.
Second tell me what you are interested in and what you hope to get out of the navy.
>>30385197
What did you get on your ACT? I only got a 26 on mine but got a 92 ASVAB last week. I was honestly shocked to hear anyone getting below a 70.
You'll do fine.
>>30385283
Basically bring this post to AFROTC at your school and ask famo
>>30394263
k. thanks senpai
>>30391296
That one is a troll post. Ignore it.
>>30391296
Kill yourself I bet you're not even in
>>30391066
No one wears the sweats except fat dependents.
>>30395619
Those sweats are my favorite pajama pants in the winter time they're so fucking comfy
How come every one is so anti-marine, what is the problem with it besides low standard of living. If i enlist as infantry what would i be doing and what are the probabilities of getting deployed somewhere or being able to advance
>>30395841
Because they always talk about how they're the best even though they get all of the hand me downs from the other branches and the marine recruiters tricked a bunch of CoD and movie kids into joining because they said it would be super cool so you don't really meet a lot of people worth talking to in the marines like you can find in other branches.
>>30395892
they train harder than other branches though right? how much actual military training is the infantry doing right now. also what kind of people do you consider worth talking to in other branches.
>>30393796
I want danger, adrenaline, and a place to sleep. I want some discipline and a new lifestyle.
>>30395981
>they train harder than other branches though right?
This right here is why people hate the Marines. They've got a great marketing team that has somehow managed to convince civilians that all Marines are train-hard badasses.
Actual badasses are in SOF, which the Marines have the weakest showing in. All the coolguy schools? Not run by Marines, most of them not even available to your average Marine. All the coolguy missions? Carried out by SOF units within the other branches.
The only way Marines are "harder" is that they make their guys run 3 miles for their fitness test instead of 2 miles. That doesn't affect combat jobs at all, but it does mean all the nerds join other branches so the Marines have the shittiest support (computer wizards, intel, etc) too.
The end result is a branch that is worse than everyone else at everything. The Marines have an actual mission to cover that nobody else does (guarding embassies, ships, etc), but they don't actually do that anymore. Instead, they're just a smaller, shittier Army with really awesome TV ads.
>>30395981
Lots of janitorial work friend.
>>30396038
If you want danger and adrenaline then the Navy is the last place you want to go, shit it's hard to get that in the military in general right now with cutbacks and no major war other than small skirmishes
How do I prevent the urges to kill my roommate every time he plays loud music or won't help me clean? How could I kill him and get away with it?
airborne/air assault graduate here if anyone has questions about these schools
>>30396347
I dont even know what to ask, general info dump?
>>30396556
they're both really really gay
>>30388740
not him but are you a nasty girl? What do you do usually and how much do they pay you?
Can I enlist in the US Army if I have history of mental illness and I've used antidepressants? I've googled a lot lately and have found conflicting information regarding the issue. I haven't been on antidepressants or gone to therapy for the past 7 years and I'm in peak physical condition. I used to suffer from moderate depression and social phobia, but I'm pretty much a normie now.
>>30396038
special forces in the navy. swcc drives boats at 60nmph and fires .50 machineguns off them. they dont get off the boat much though
Why go in as an O-1 or an enlisted faggot?
Lateral entry is the way to go if you aren't a fag.
>>30398181
You sound like a walking disaster and the enlisted corps was built as a container for walking human disasters.
You'll make it and puke a few kids while you are in. Nothing to worry about.
how much for a non radiation meme?
>>30398379
I love how this bait changed as soon as you learned that you could join as an O-6.
Did you know you can actually just be put in charge of the whole military as a civilian?
Don't be a pussy and join as a colonel, run for fucking president.
>>30395096
I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand basic algebra and formulas but don't take your frustration over your lack of job choices out on us.
>>30396347
How much did you run in jump school? I can do the 45 min 5 mile alright but from what I've heard you run a lot more than that. I'm going in a couple months.
>>30398379
From what I hear, enlisted respect officers who were once enlisted before becoming an officer.
umm...
any medical staff here able to answer some questions of mine?
>>30385451
>>30385520
Are you me? I took it a few days ago, also got a 93, and I'm not good at the Auto & Shop sections either. They were the sections I scored the lowest in. However, none of the composite scores that I know of take Auto & Shop (AS) into consideration alone by itself in any branch, so in the end all my composite scores exceed any score requirements in any job. I'm sure that's what happened with your scores as well.
I'm a newfriend in this thread. I'm in the process of enlisting in the ARNG, but so far my mental health history could disqualify me.
>>30395619
Thank you for your sacrifice. You serve too, ma'am.
>>30399424
>enlisted respect
Yes, a normal adult concerns themselves with what pic related thinks of them.
No one fucking cares besides other enlisted and children.
>>30396038
Just be a Gunner's Mate.
>>30395841
>besides low standard of living
Marines is the worst of all worlds. You give everything up and get nothing in return.
Army, for example, has a worse standard of living than the Navy and the Air Force, but in exchange for that, you get to pick your MOS and generally faster promotions which translates to better pay and benefits. So you end up with a decision that looks like this:
Air Force: Best standard of living, poor promotion rates.
Navy: Better than average standard than living, decent promotion rates. Upsides.... boats? A dozen different uniforms? Muh traditions? Something like that.
Army: Below average standard of living, fast promotions, pick your MOS.
Marines: Worst standard of living, worst promotion rates. Dankest memes? Largest e-peen? Spiffy uniforms? Not sure what the upsides are here exactly.
i have a feeling when i take the ASVAB next week im going to get all mechanical and combat MOS'
>>30399862
The promotion ranks across the services are more or less the same in the warrant officer corps and the commissioned officer corps.
Promotion in the enlisted corps barely matters, since they more or less have the same roles.
>>30399862
Wait. You don't get to pick your job in the AF?
>>30399897
You might be able to if you're willing to wait 40 months for a slot in the MOS you want to be assigned to your recruiting unit.
I'm not an expert on the way the Air Force entry process works; I've just heard plenty of horror stories from people who were unable to get the job they wanted due to availability or other reasons.
>>30399862
so which would be the best for OCS? AF or Army? I like the navy since you get boats but got turned down for SWO and dont want to do nuke
>>30399424
So you just confirmed that you know nothing
So why don't they do the MEPs medical/physical FIRST?
What if I get a good score and the job I want exactly but then some medical shit I never knew about DQs me?
What's FC like? What is your daily work like, what was training like?
>>30400091
>"From what I hear"
Please feel free to add in your stellar explanation though.
If I told my Doctor that I want to check my testosterone levels because I've been feeling depressed and demotivated, but haven't ever been prescribed anything, will I be okay to join?
I'm not really depressed, just down in a rut as of late... But I wanted to check my T levels out of curiosity, so I made up an excuse to my Doctor.
>>30399862
You get to pick your job in the airforce (based on what is available at the time) I know some folks that were on DEP for 6 months but most are much less than that.
>>30400248
Medical process takes longer and costs more per person than taking a test on a computer. They don't want to waste tax payer's money giving someone a full physical and lab work if they are gong to end up too dumb to be functional.
>>30400434
Have you been diagnosed with something or prescribed something by a Doctor? If no I wouldn't even mention it to my recruiter. It sounds a bit shady but don't say more than you have to.
>>30400017
Just score high on asvab.
Oh and if you want to be a linguist and get a damn good DLAB (110+) then you just got your job!
I only had to wait 5 months from DLAB to lackland
I wish I could enter the 5th dimension and communicate with my past self using gravity like Matthew McConaughey to prevent myself from joining the Marine Corps. There are plenty of good times, but they are relatively few and far between in a vast ocean of bullshit.
>>30400387
Different enlisted anon here. Whether an officer is prior enlisted has no bearing on my level of respect for them. All that matters is how good they are at being an officer. If they're good at it I might wonder why they spent so long fucking around as enlisted instead of commissioning.
>>30400542
How is DLAB? I'm scheduled to take it in 2 weeks.
>>30400622
I had two department heads who were both prior enlisted.
One was a totally worthless, stupid, incompetent heap of human trash, the other was probably the single most competent officer I've met in my entire life.
People respect officers who are good officers and not raging cocksuckers.
Leaving for basic at Ft. Jackson tomorrow (provided I make weight)
what did I step into guys
>>30400758
It's not hard. You learn different rules for a fake language and evaluate sentences and pictures based on that.
Keep in mind to remember previous rules, because each stage will add new rules, but not reiterate the old ones, which still apply.
>Tfw your rate no longer provides for SRB when you reenlist and your Command Career Counselor finds out your NEC can still get you a reenlistment bonus
>It's a STAR eligible NEC
>Only put on PO3 this last cycle and will make PO2 the moment I start getting paid as an E4
Things are looking good, boys.
What do they take into consideration when deciding a waiver?
>>30402256
what waiver are you trying to get?
>>30402315
The "being a fat lazy cunt" waiver
>>30383469
I'm 5'9 18 years old, have American citizenship and want to become a Police Officer in Boston. I've always wanted to be a Marine. I'm considering applying to join the corps. How can I go about doing it and what will I need?
>>30384556
Can you from beyond the grave?
>>30402854
talk to a recruiter for fucks sake
>>30399890
>>30399890
>The promotion ranks across the services are more or less the same in the warrant officer corps and the commissioned officer corps.
>Promotion in the enlisted corps barely matters, since they more or less have the same roles.
bait?
>>30400350
FC in the navy? It depends greatly and what your NEC is. Most do lots of maintenance but beyond that it depends. If you are tomahawk your "watch" if you even call it that is a joke. They sit in a room alone and play skyrim. If you are a spy tech youll be in CiC staring at an O Scope.
>>30400622
>>30400883
100%, respect is based on a person to person basis and nothing else
>>30403113
thanks for the info on FC.
That doesn't sound very interesting
>>30403145
Well its all relative. What are your interests? What are you trying to get out of the navy?
>>30403210
I'm not sure desu
I'm just looking for something to do so I can travel while not wanting to kill myself from day to day work. My asvab scores that I could do anything I want, I just can't figure out what that want is.
>>30403253
Well man youre on the right path but I cant suggest stuff really unless i know what you are into?
Like cooking? Like paperwork? Like working with your hands? Like working on engines? Like computers? Like the idea of navigation?
There are so many possibilities man.
>>30403275
Computers would be great, something intel related would be ideal, but most of that shit seems to be either you're an officer or you're just doing something supporting the officer's job.
I wouldn't mind GM either I suppose.
Recruiter is pushing me to do nuke, and while the money sounds nice, the job itself seems terribly boring
>>30401154
You're going to melt in the hell heat of Columbia in summer.
Other than that, meh.
>>30400074
Depends on what you want to do. Generally speaking, I would say that AF OCS provides better options. I went through Army OCS and all of the slots assigned to my class were terrible.
>>30403320
>Recruiter is pushing me to do nuke
Dont
>officer or you're just doing something supporting the officer's job.
No, officers only push paper, in about 2 seconds that cuck 48G is gonna show up
>muh papercuts
>GM
Thats a good rate but tis similar to FC man, at least in terms of what they do. Maintenance and standing watch. Nothing flashy
>intel
Some of the best rates man. CTx rates are all good and IT is good aswell. Id go CTR if i had to choose a CT rate then CTT. Some say CTN is best overall but im almost 100% positive they dont get stationed on ships so if you want to travel dont go CTN.
>>30396347
How long after basic do you go to airborne school? And what happens once you graduate in terms of leave time, also how is it jumping out of a plane I've never even so much as flown in . Anything i should know before putting it in my contract?
>>30403388
Is there a chance someone with an re code 3, and didn't ship to basic can re-enlist?
>>30403402
That's some good info, thanks
>>30403459
NP senpai, i can post some links to some of those rates if you cant find info
>>30403419
I think you'd need a waiver. Should ask a recruiter to be sure.
>>30403388
Yeah I'm looking at AF jobs and they're nice I would like something in a tanker or artillery but nowadays I doubt they're deploying. Say I go through army and get some shit like logistics or transportation officer, how soon would I be able to laterally transfer to another AOC?
>>30403402
So I guess I should turn down NUPOC, every single person I see here says it's awful and on >blogs but the money seemed nice and the shore doody too
>>30403408
>How long after basic do you go to airborne school
It depends. Inprocessing to the new post, then airborne school...say a few days to a week.
Jumping out of a plane is easy and disappointing unless you're in the 10% of people who actually enjoy it or actually hate it.
Overall there's no reason not to get it; it's not a big deal but it opens up a few opportunities for your career. Don't throw away a freebie because you bitched out or were lazy.
>>30403539
>So I guess I should turn down NUPOC, every single person I see here says it's awful and on >blogs but the money seemed nice and the shore doody too
Think about that, thats why the moneys nice cause it sucks so much ass. So many oeioke wash out or get out after 6 cause of how ass it is. Special forces not included, Nuke school is the hardest school in the navy but most will saw CTN school comes in 2nd. So if its a challenge you want go CTN its just as great. Plus is sets you up really well in the intel community to get a job easy when you get out. Intel has a tight community with lots of friends.
For example, there was an ISC on my ship who showed up with 3 years left till 20. He got out at 20 and immediately got re hired as a civilian at the intel command he left just 3 ears earlier.
Anyone know anything about Cheyenne? Getting sent to FE Warren in a few months. Apparently there's no runway at the base and the whole thing is a superfund site. I literally forgot Wyoming was a state. They got outdoors stuff to do there?
>>30403561
Cool thanks, what about after you graduate? Are you basically a glorified 11b?
>>30403105
Thanks man, appreciate the advice
>>30403668
Yes. You're whatever MOS you were before, except now you can join airborne units, which have a tiny bit more prestige, funding, useless tradition...and school slots.
If you're in your initial contract, you'll probably incur an obligation to go to an airborne unit before any leg units. Don't drink the koolaid; do take advantage of being in a good location.
>>30403539
>how soon would I be able to laterally transfer to another AOC?
The real answer to this is extremely complicated. I'll try to keep it simple, but I'm really only giving you half the story.
At least 4 years in your first branch BUT it's essentially impossible to transfer to another basic branch. You cannot become a combat arms officer at CPT, because you missed out on critical experience as a LT.
The quickest you can get out of your basic branch is by going CA, psyops, or SF, and that opportunity is at about the 3 year mark. Other than that, it's 4 years, and even then there's only certain other jobs that you can switch to.
Thinking about trying to get 18x Should I wait a while as 11b. Or just do the training now. Im in good shape to get by at basic if I do 11b but would have to probably wait a while if I can get 18x
First time posting in /meg/
So right now I'm working construction because college is fucking expensive and I didn't try hard enough in high school to get free money. Im making good cash where I am now, but I wanna become an Equipment Operator. Seriously considering joining the Army to get it, does anyone have experience with a Heavy Equipment MOS and if so, what are your recommendations on it?
Thx
>>30403983
>thinking about trying to get 18x
How good of shape we talking, how old are you?
>that enlisted guy who tries to portray himself as an intellectual
Why do these people exist?
You are enlisted. By definition you have either standard intellect or below average intellect. Even nukes are only good at repeating information, not taking a concept and applying it in a new way.
>>30404010
>that guy in his moms basement who baits every thread
Why do these people exist?
enlisting as Bosun's mate in Australian Navy next year
>>30396347
How do you get into airborne or assault school? Is it volunteer when a spot opens or do you have to get recommended by a NCO or XO based on merit/ record?
>>30403802
shitty so I gotta get it at OCS. Is there med hold or something along those lines at OCS if say I sprain something or fracture something? I know the Navy OCS does.
Fuck I don't want to try to join the AF. But i heard they're accepting a lot of OTS dudes because of something to do with reforms.
Maybe I'll try the Marines
>>30400758
its not that hard. Just get over a 110 so you can get any language.
Beware though, DLI life is a rough one.
Except for the weekends. Best weekends of your life. Ive never been happier in my 23 years on this planet than I am here on the weekends.
So its worth it
>>30404252
>Is there med hold or something along those lines at OCS
No, you will more than likely find yourself at an enlisted AIT if you get hurt or otherwise don't make it through OCS.
>>30404335
>Except for the weekends. Best weekends of your life. Ive never been happier in my 23 years on this planet than I am here on the weekends.
Explain? Ive heard at those language schools its like a giant orgy basically. That why?
>>30404392
48G i wanted to ask you youre still in correct?
>>30404392
Shieet guess I can't get hurt then.
I know the marines just plain kick you out so I guess that's a bit better.
>>30402315
None at the moment
I'm just wondering
Are they lenient on prior drug usage in the army nowadays? Am I better off not mentioning my history of drug use?
>>30404601
I wish we could create a sticky or disclamier or something for these people. Why the fuck would you ever say anything? How the fuck are they going to find out? Keep your mouth shut you moron.
>>30404623
I'm just worried about getting clearance down the road and getting fucked
>>30404642
Bro again how would they know.
>be me
>Been drinking since 9th grade
>Been smoking weed since 10th grade
>Graduate highschool and go to a recruiter in July
>recruiter aks ever smoked, i say no
>Pass piss test and get secret clearance literally no problem
>ship out a few months later
You people have seen to many movies i swear. Unless you have a police record or something like that you will be perfectly fine.
>>30404708
I hear they are very thorough with top secret clearance, they will do things like interview your family and friends etc. I dunno though that's why i'm asking
>>30404757
I will tell you honestly that i dont know for top secret but most of whats posted here is either a meme or speculation. I knew plenty of CTs who obviously had TS and they all smoked weed before the navy so idk man. But also how would your family know you smoked weed and why would your shitty friends rat on you?
>>30404789
Well my friends wouldn't rat on me, but they might mention some other people I haven't seen in a while who might say something.
>>30403668
You won't be a dirty nasty leg once you graduate. You'll be a cherry until you jump at a unit
>>30404811
Tell your stupid friends to be quiet also they care more about huge debts and knowing lots of foreigners stuff like that.
>>30404201
If you're already in? Tell your Squad leader you want to go. He'll pass up the info and if any slots open up you may get to go.
If you're enlisting just get it in your contract
Alright guys I go to MEPs tomorrow and ship the day after. Thanks for the advice
>>30405006
Branch? Rate/MOS?
>>30405035
Navy CTI
>>30405047
Damn good luck, i hear that language training is very intense.
>>30405246
Ill make it. I just wanted advice about boot camp and the like.
>>30405006
Thanks for any advice you can give*
A marine recruiter saw me lifting at the gym and wants me to be a pilot or aircraft mechanic. I'm currently in welding school, am certainly good enough at it to be gainfully employed, especially with tig and pulsed-arc mig, but I'm just not really sure which direction to take my life at the moment. My ultimate goal is to make things for NASA, SpaceX, or whomever else shoots stuff up into space. Would potentially being a fighter pilot be worth all of the sacrifice necessary, when I could arguably do better for as a civilian welder?
If it matters, I'm 20 and have almost enough college credit from dual enrollment in high school for an associate's degree
>>30405258
Its easy as shit, everyone makes it through man. Just keep your head down and do what youre told.
You better pray you dont fail out of A school though cause being sent to the fleet as Undes is a fate worse than death.
>>30405359
Im bad at homework but I pick up language quickly. I learned Spanish and Latin in high school and middle school respectively. I wont drop out because when its study based only a failure of effort is an issue.
>>30405411
The bad at homework thing is just high school laziness. When its my ass on the line ill put out
>>30405356
youre gonna need a bachelors degree before they let you touch the inside of a cockpit.
>>30405633
Wouldn't the military put me through the rest of undergrad?
Might seem like a bit of an odd question, but whatever. Have any of the veterans ITT ever done anything in combat/overseas that they regret? I hear people on tv and radio talk about how many veterans regret things from their service, but literally every single veteran ive ever met said they had a blast overseas, met some new friends, and didn't really have anything happen to them. Is its just a meme, or am I looking in the wrong places?
How much does the military care about college marks? I never finsihed college but they had me submit my transcript anyways and my marks were between the high 90's and very low 30's. If i liked the class then i did the work but i knew i wasnt going to finish so i said fuck it to the boring courses. Will that hurt my chances of getting in if they think im retarded/lazy?
>>30406036
I'm a leaf by the way
>>30391871
/thread
>>30406036
>>30406043
Dunno about Canada, but in the US you automatically enlist at a higher pay grade depending on how many approved college credits you have
>>30405984
I was in an overwatch position covering a squad entering a residence. The mother came out and placed her daughter between me and the house.
Effective cover meant shooting through that tiny toddler. I'm happy I did not have to. That would have weighed on me for life.
Just joined the Army. Was at Sacremento MEPS on the 23rd.
Had to wait a month because I failed the TAPAS the first time but I literally doubled my Will Do score. I needed to pass because I have a GED.
11X is my MOS.
I have one question though. How the fuck do I run? It's almost like I feel like I am doing it wrong or missing out on some sort of secret on how to properly run that everyone else seems to know. I can feel myself slowly improving but I feel like I should be a much better runner than I am.
ASVAB TOMORROW
WEW
>>30407380
It's too easy.
I don't consider myself very smart but I got 85.
>>30407389
I expect 80-90s in OF and CO since thats all im good at
>>30405984
You have to realize the way vets talk to each other vs to the media/civilians is completely different. The things me and my navy buddies joked about on watch I wouldn't dare say to anyone now that I'm out. They'd have me commited. The only thing I regret from a navy PoV is all the trash I threw into the ocean. Night Ops was fun and convent at the time but now I regret it.
>>30407938
What exactly were you throwing?
>>30408146
My tampons
>>30407389
What matters is your GT. I got an 84 but my GT was 123. I was sought after. A GT above 110 will get you into Special Forces.
>>30408157
>mfw I got 126 on GT, but my psychiatrist's record will probably get me disqualified
>>30408197
What emo disease do you have, friend?
>>30408219
Thoughts of suicide, no matter how long ago, is disqualifying.
I don't even remember what I told the psych since it was so long ago, but I did get diagnosed with clinical depression and social anxiety, and I did have thoughts. So it could be on my record. Obviously, I wouldn't care about it or tell if it wasn't on any medical record.
I'm completely fine now, though
>>30408287
You're a hapless case. May as well just kill yourself.
>>30408307
It all hinges on what the record says. I'm not too hopeful, though.
This may be my first and last visit to /meg/
>>30408146
garbage. Everyone throws all their trash overboard while at sea. So many stories senpai. We were chucking fluorescent light bulbs into the ocean like tomahawks. Loads of fun.
>>30408676
That's pretty disgusting desu
Our descendants will find so much compressed trash in the depths and look at us with disdain
>>30408849
This Im not a tree fucker but I try to preserve the environment when I can
>>30383469
Anyone else cancel their packet when word came down about lifting the ban on trans? Fucking blows, I spent the last year working my ass off to be in good shape for it, and preparing mentally to leave, was working on getting a good contract with the recruiter, too.
Not willing to die for the liberal's social experimentation. Completely and totally retarded.
>>30408849
>>30408859
I agree with you 100% but my laziness overcame my morals. Btw literally every ship on the ocean does this.
Story time
The way its supposed to work is while you are underway you store trash in one of the weather breaks. Then when you pull into port a working party forms and you haul it all off the ship. The problem is that the whole time you are underway all that trash is rotting, getting covered in seawater, paint, oil and trash juice is leaking all over it all. Its cookin in the heat and the bags are way to heavy and rip. So basically when you pull in no one wants to haul it which i cant blame em for. So at night underway we just stab em full of holes and chuck em overboard.
Btw what we threw was tame compared to other divisions
BMs threw cans of paint and thinner over
Engineers throw parts and what not over, oil included.
I remember hearing supply cleaned out hazmat over night basically.
When you are underway morals slip cause you are way over worked and dead tired.
>>30408909
hope you get shot and have a fire at sea
>>30408935
>have a fire at sea
Happens all the time, and again youll have to literally shoot every single person whose ever been on a ship. Maybe you should join up and change the system.
>>30408909
>>30408935
That is a completely unpleasant response.
>>30405411
I'll see you when you get here sailor.
>coast guard age limit 27
i'm fresh 28. is there a way around the cg age limit? no prior service and not interested in reserve.
>>30409352
Maybe a waiver, but why do you want CG, why not navy?
>>30409352
There's waivers, get in touch with recruiter, they can usually help you.
>>30409438
i thought the coast guard doesn't have / accept any waivers?
>>30409393
good question. i'm a swiss citizen living in the us. the coast guard appealed to me right from the beginning. i have never considered joining the navy. probably because the cg is more of policing at home force while the navy could send you to any lousy place in the world.
>>30409580
Wise choice. If I were in your situation, I would join the Coast Guard as well. Yes.
>>30409580
>navy could send you to any lousy place in the world.
Thats the whole point, thats why i loved it. But if your situation is different than CG may be a better choice.
Can someone explain needs of the Navy to me?
Is it basically placement for people who fail out of their job training after BCT?
I'm going for UKSF (R)
On the (very) off chance that someone has experience with this that is browsing, any advice?
>>30410841
American here but all I can say is good luck.
Bragging bout this for a min
Me shooting a minigun with muh SF buddies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH0W7-2f0o8
Ayyyy
Former Marine then PMC and now wanting to be a sailor (at the same time as being a PMC or whatever it is I choose next, so Navy reserve).
Are GM/BM/QM the three traditional 'sailors' rates if I wanted to actual do Naval stuff in the Navy reserve? Of these is BM the most 'traditional' sailor rate of the three?
I'm not new to any of this so yes I know what I am getting myself into, yes I know those are 'crappy' rates, etc. etc. I joined the Infantry because I wanted to be an Infantryman and now I am looking at these rates because I want to try my hand at sailoring.
Oh yea and Coast Guard is out of the question because of tattoo regs.
>>30411123
Hey. How easy is it to get into a PMC post-military?
I just enlisted as 11x but when I am done I wanted to do PMC work.
Also can you redpill me on PMC's? I know this is not what you are asking but I always wanted to know from the horses mouth.
>>30404399>>30404399
I could literally see the ocean from my barracks room and from class. MEII and A Co were pretty based.
>>30411136
It will be very hard if you do not get direct, documented combat experience. It will probobly be very hard in general because of the nature of the business; companies want to hire people that are already vetted and that make paperwork much, much easier (ie: already 'on the books', already have clearances under their control, etc.).
But that being said I thought it would be fucking impossible for me as a regular Marine infantryman judging by the naysayers when I was in ("They only hare SOCOM guys", "Dude it's impossible you have to be a fucking deahheater ninja jedi sith lord", etc. etc.) but instead I just ignored all that shit, started applying/researching as soon as I finished my last deployment and made sure I was ready to hop on as soon as I got the call. And I did get it.
Also, to go a bit further into that story I should say to get the 'cool' mobile jobs is very hard. My story again: I was about to go over to Kosovo, had already done the physical and such, to 'get my foot in the door' of the industry doing shitty static work with crap pay and virtually no leave and then I got a call saying 'could you get down to training for WPS PSS in two days?' of course to which I replied fuck yes (in a more professional way, hah). So, along with that these types of jobs (Kosovo, Jerusalem, static in Afghanistan, etc.) will most likely still be around when you are out and are a way to get into the industry.
To be honest I just got an email from my former employers (Triple Canopy) saying they are looking to bring back guys when the new task order is being competed for and now I am getting the bug again.
Sorry for my shit grammar and typing right now, just writing from my train of thought. I'll try to write more coherently if you ask questions, hah.
>Also can you redpill me on PMC's? I know this is not what you are asking but I always wanted to know from the horses mouth.
What would you like to know?
>>30411222
>What would you like to know?
Nothing anymore. Thanks.
>>30411934
No problem. That wasn't really much info though. If you want to know about general life, PT/weapons quals, etc. let me know.
REEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>armed forces recruitment service of my country lost my application
>I only found out after the final deadline
>need to wait another year before joining
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
What's a good way to spend 1 wanky year?
>>30410841
You wont make it. The you that appears during training might though.
>>30409125
Hooyah
>>30410718
Yes, dont fail.
>>30411123
Yes they are the oldest, what do you want to know about em?
>>30411191
Nice
>>30412785
>>30412802
Was it Autism?
