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>>30351787
youre all a bunch of cunts, but at least youre not gaping dickholes like those /arg/ faggits
>>30351855
>cunts
>dick holes
>>30351896
>Shitpost
>>30351737
yea I guess it's space for the trapdoor to open
I'm waiting on my IWD furniture set to arrive and it's gonna require a trapdoor buttplate, thought I'd ask
For those of you looking for Hungarian Tanker mags, Arms of America has them for $20 in like new to unissued condition.
Get em before they sell out.
https://armsofamerica.com/hungarianak-4720-roundmagazinerare.aspx
>Already ordered 10 so I thought I'd share.
Think they have a limit of 20 per though.
>>30351949
Nice.
What wood did you get it in?
Walnut? Afrimosa?
>>30351949
careful those trap doors like to smash fingers
>mfw i got lucky with a surplus stock set and had a trapdoor installed
>>30351787
Gentlemen, I'm thinking about selling my WASR for another AK in 556 or 545. This one is a '15 build with around 1500 or so through it, akt trigger, magpul mall ninja'd with CTR stock on RD adapter. Has a DTK-2 brake on it, but thinking about just throwing the slant back on it and selling the brake separate. What is this worth today, honestly?
>>30352063
bout 800+
>>30352101
That's what I figured. I think I have it up a little high at $950, but I think I'm just going to re-list it without the brake for 850 and let them jew me down 50 or so.
>>30352063
I'll give you about three fiddy
We numbered threads now !!
>>30352063
>>30352063
You may have been better off selling it before all the legislation was shot down... maybe wait until closer to the election? Or don't sell it. And buy one of each, 556 and 545.
Baltic Birch. I considered Afrimosa but I wanted something that would go well with an Iodine tint. Also I think it's like 40 bucks more
idk if i should wait for slr107 arsenals to come back in 2017, or get a another wasr while i wait.
>those anti-gun are fucking spooky
R8 my opap?
>>30352534
>abortion Tapco AK-74 brake
>>30352547
It's not a tapco brake.
it's a cncwarrior brake.
>>30352562
It appears to be almost identical and doesn't appear to have an expansion chamber
>>30352156
Nigga I bet you would! I wish I didn't shoot your fucking SLR, I wouldn't be so conflicted right now.
>>30352347
Well, I'm actually trying to get away from all caliber AK's aside from 556 in order to consolidate and be able to feed all of the same rifles with the same mags and be able to stock up only on 556/223. I also have a Tavor, Sig556, and AR-15 in that caliber, and we reload to save cost... To make it even more of a PITA we have an AR-10, SCAR 17, PTR-91, M1 Garand, and M1 Carbine, among others. I'm trying to keep all of our stuff to mostly 5.56 and .308 with only a few oddball or special snowflake calibers. The WASR is the only 7.62 rifle I have at the moment and the only one I'm willing to part with, so....
>>30352588
I don't think it's identical to an actual 74 style brake but it is ported. It does reduce muzzle climb, and I don't think it's just because of the added weight on the end of the barrel.
>>30352610
>mmmm 5.45 goodness
I don't think I could ever sell my wasr but my main ammo focus atm is 5.45
>>30352647
>I don't think it's identical to an actual 74 style brake but it is ported.
I clearly meant that it's identical to the crapco brake, are you daft?
> It does reduce muzzle climb, and I don't think it's just because of the added weight on the end of the barrel.
So does the crapco. It's just not ported the same way as the real ones. You should have gotten an Arsenal 7.62 one and an adapter.
Just ordered about 1.5k rounds of silver bear 5.45. I'm so pumped. Also one of my neighbors is going to sell me 45 boxes of WPA 7.62x39 for 16cents/round. Maybe I can finally shoot the ol' paratrooper sks and rpk now.
>>30352653
I don't want to get rid of mine either but I guess I'll just see what happens. I'm not going to give it away, but I'll just see if someone offers me enough. I REALLY want a fucking Beryl, but I'd be probably equally happy with an SLR-104. There's a Golani sporter up right now for $1000, if I had rid of the WASR I'd offer him 8 or 850.
>>30352653
>>30352910
>Trade off an easily-fed 7.62 because 5.45
Fucking have both AK calbers and shut up.
>>30352342
Goddamn i want an obzor
My canted rpk
>>30352927
I don't think you quite understood my earlier post. I'm primarily wanting to get rid of the 7.62 caliber for 5.56 (ie Beryl), but I'd pick up a 5.45 rifle it was a smoking deal, but defeats the purpose of selling the WASR. But as it is I am done trying to line up 10+ mags per rifle and having as much shit as I do. Fuck, I only have 3 magazines for my VEPR-12 and none of them are Molots, which are 100 a pop. Shit's expensive having to stack so much shit.
>>30352986
>barely even noticeable
Kill yourself
>>30352610
If you're looking to stay in 5.56 and .308 then get an FAL. The good kits won't be around forever. 5.56 AK mite b cool.
>>30353018
Its a lot more noticeable when you have to move the rear sight all the way to the right just to hit zero.
>>30353029
Already have a PTR-91 and a SCAR 17. I considered an FAL but I really don't see myself shooting one over the other two.
>>30353030
>All the way to the right
>Canted to the right
That's the barrel being odd, not the cant.
>>30353030
Okay, first off you don't adjust the windage with the rear sight, even on RPKs, that windage adjustment is for wind, not zeroing. Also there is literally so little cant that if you adjusted the front sight like you're supposed to then it'd be a none issue and you probably would hardly notice it. Finally, no one cares who the fuck you are, drop the namefag unless there is a specific reason.
>>30353059
I kinda want a fal, but then again a ar10 would be nice also
>>30353059
Oh fuck, you're the gook wife guy.
>> 30352047
Holy fuck I remember when I was 14 and got my finger stuck in my SKS's trapdoor. It hurt like a motherfucker and I nearly broke my finger trying to free myself.
Kinda new to ak's, saw somebody running a vert grip off their standard Arsenal handguard. Do I just drill holes and add a rail section there?
>>30353116
If I had a trip, maybe that's what I'd be, "gookwifeguy".
>>30353103
Fuck you haven't shot our AR-10 yet. I like it, I guess, but it's fucking underwhelming and really ho-hum. It's a DPMS Oracle, so not a high end one, but I couldn't justify spending more than 1,000 on one anyhow when a PTR-GI could be had for less money. I liked the M1A so much better even though the M1A gave me nothing but hell.
>>30353249
>If I had a trip, maybe that's what I'd be, "gookwifeguy".
If she tight? How did she respond when she first saw your peen?
>>30353230
In that nice plum hg? No. Just get one with the rail already on it, I think the proper bulgarian ones do.
>>30353230
What's with the muzzle nut ?
You can or you can screw into the grip and file it flush with the hand guard
>>30353097
I haven't had a chance to get to the range recently. Next time I get some 7.62x39 I'll actually zero it.
>drop the namefag unless there is a specific reason
How else are people going to know I'm a gigantic cuck?
>>30353063
>not understanding sight adjustment
In order to match the front sight being canted right, you must move the rear sight right. If you moved it left, the POA would get further and further right of the POI.
pic related
>>30353249
Well I was going to build a Gucci one.....
>>30353260
>I haven't had a chance to get to the range recently. Next time I get some 7.62x39 I'll actually zero it.
Then stop fucking complaining.
>How else are people going to know I'm a gigantic cuck?
It's pretty obvious already.
>>30353255
Of course bro, I got her brand new in the box. I can't remember, I think she just got all wide eyed and maybe a little scared? My first gf was about the same, she was a really petite Mexican girl. But she broke my fucking heart and ripped it out my ass.
Thought I'd mockup my 74 build after finishing the barrel. Enjoy
>>30353257
Gotcha, I really like the stock handguards and don't want to put a quad rail on it. I'll keep an eye out thanks.
>>30353278
>and ripped it out my ass.
Are you sure she was a real girl? They're not supposed to have dicks. Also
>being a white guy who can only get non-white chicks
wew
>>30353289
Fuck you, now I want my tools and receiver to get here already so I can fucking get started on mine.
>RRRRRRREeeee
>>30353258
I know I know, I just purchased a brake for it today lol
>>30353306
Which tools are you going with?
>>30353275
Not exactly sure why you are so hostile. Have something against cucks?
postan my vepr
>>30353323
>Not exactly sure why you are so hostile. Have something against cucks?
Yes.
>>30353322
The Go/No-go gauges from AK-builder, and the rest is toth-tools for everything but the long rivets and trigger guard rivets. I originally ordered a childerguns 80% heat treated receiver two months ago and I never got it, you might have seen my posts here once in a while. I'm calling them tomorrow to either get my fucking money back or something since it "shipped" over a month ago and they're giving me the run around even though USPS never got it. I decided to just say fuck it and get a Nodak NDS-2 EZ and I'm either going to weld up the extra holes (fuck the scope rail) or give in and get a scope rail, haven't decided yet. I'm also debating on getting some Russian AK-74 wood since the Bulgarian shit that came with it is awful, plus it's that painted stuff.
>>30353360
Hmm... I just bought a Tantal kit that should be here tomorrow. Been waffling between Childers and Nodak. Childers for custom serial to match kit but I think you just made my kind up for me. Nodak it is. I'm putting on rail because why not.
Im going with toth instal/removal and population kit for Tantal. Figure I'll try it over my press.
>>30353360
Also, I specifically got the plum because I didn't like the Bulgarian wood. Now I just need some plum mags.
>>30353297
What kind of dick has a claw for extracting out of a cavity rather than stuffing? I think cat dicks are barbed or something from what I read somewhere.
>being a white guy who can only get non-white chicks
I messed around with white broads in my high school years but always liked the spic and filipino women the best, idk why. All of the white women who were decent looking were fucking insufferable. I don't regret it either though, most all of my friends who went on to date or marry a WESTERN white women got fucked somehow and usually ended up getting their house and half their shit smoked from them. The only white women I'd even bother with are Eastern European one, but I never got to go to Poland or Serbia like I wanted to.
>>30353383
>>30353393
The tothtool stuff seems a lot easier to not fuck up, that's the main reason I went with it, although getting the stuff off might not be too fun. Yeah, I was originally going to get one of those plum kits off rguns but they ran out so I went with the wood. I was going to replace it with US made stuff anyway which I might still do. Idk, a lot of tough choices. Hell originally I was just going to send it off to a builder but apparently no one builds off of blanks unless they're inhouse or they charge a bunch for it. I also ordered one of those Bulgarian barrels off of K-var. Decent barrels, the only problem is they don't have the cut out for the handguard retainer pin/lever so that will have to be milled out, oh yeah, also the gas port hole is about three degrees off to the right. FML. This whole thing is turning into a money pit and I regret not just buying a headspaced and populated kit off AK-builder and going with a 100% receiver to begin with. Oh yeah, and finally, when I was getting the grease off the parts I royally fucked up the finish on the parts, so in order to fix that I bought a media/abrasive gun that broke within ten minutes of getting it. So now I'm just kinda sitting here wanting to kill myself
>>30353408
>What kind of dick has a claw for extracting out of a cavity rather than stuffing? I think cat dicks are barbed or something from what I read somewhere.
What do you think the back part of your glans are for?
http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(03)00016-3/abstract
>>30353452
Damn man... Far as the gas port goes, I drilled mine off center a bit on accident. Figured fuck it and put the gas block on anyway. plenty of air still flows through so whatever. It should work. Unless your gas port is like, way off it should be fine. Mines pretty off center and it works fine, if you notice the hole on the gas block is like 4mm for a 2mm hole. I would get a hand file and carve the retainer slot with it personally. If the extractor clearance isn't cut though... Fuck
>>30353498
>Damn man... Far as the gas port goes, I drilled mine off center a bit on accident. Figured fuck it and put the gas block on anyway. plenty of air still flows through so whatever. It should work. Unless your gas port is like, way off it should be fine. Mines pretty off center and it works fine, if you notice the hole on the gas block is like 4mm for a 2mm hole.
Yeah, I got the gas block on part way, just a little tap with a mallet to keep it from spinning, and it shouldn't be too bad, still a bit frustrating to pay $240 something for it and have it all fucked up.
>I would get a hand file and carve the retainer slot with it personally.
That would be a lit of filing man, and all my rasps are too big. I'm probably going to do it when I head over to my neighbors and do the long rear rivet and the nigger guard rivtes.
>If the extractor clearance isn't cut though... Fuck
Thankfully it is cut.
>>30353592
Damn 240 for a barrel?
I can't image it would be much worse that filing the pin off my VEPR muzzle nut. Obviously you'd want to be cleaner and more precise than pic related but, took me like 15 minutes.
>>30353722
>Damn 240 for a barrel?
They're Bulgarian CHF chrome-lined senpai. I didn't want to cheap out on some American made one, although maybe in retrospect a GMB would have been fine.
>I can't image it would be much worse that filing the pin off my VEPR muzzle nut. Obviously you'd want to be cleaner and more precise than pic related but, took me like 15 minutes.
Barrels are a lot harder than muzzle nuts, plus the size of the groove has to be pretty small AND clean. Probably just going to stick with getting it in the mill and cutting the groove.
5.35x39 mags should cost less.
>>30351787
>that nub on the safety lever
Haha wow. Never noticed that until now. All these aftermarket levers with the finger shelf moved halfway back actually mimic the original design whether or not they realize it.
>>30348571
Face of the dude on the right
>>30354126
Get a tantal mag, get some stamping dies made, and start turning out some aluminum mags then.
New Rommy G stock set, 40 round Romanian RPK mag, and Romanian bayonet
Just need a 4x PSO and it's done
>>30352063
put the original everything back on it
sell it bone stock but offer the accessories as extras
once you sell the base AK, sell any accessories the buyer didn't want individually on AK files or eBay
don't try to sell your rifle all kitted out
you built the rifle up in your vision and it's unlikely anyone else has the same vision for the rifle
if they do, great, you can sell the the accessories too
if they don't, great, you've got spare accessories to put on your new AK
you gotta dress your product for sale, just like setting a house before realtors and prospective buyers arrive
>>30352047
I got my finger caught in one of those before. It sucked ass getting it back out
>>30353751
Well if you have access to a mill them yeah. I thought you didn't.
>>30354900
Well, I'm kinda fucked as the Zhukov handguard requires cutting the factory handguard retainer. I'd have to press off the sight post and gas block to get one on.
>>30352534
That thing is wrong in every way, yet there's still something visually appealing about it.
>>30354816
Damn, someone chopped your dong.
>>30351399
I was actually hired off the street as a supervisor; nobody in the building wanted the position so they had to hire outside of the company. As for moving up to supervisor, I honestly couldn't tell you. I'd probably convey your desire to become a supervisor to either your manager or supervisor and then wait patiently until someone gets moved up or, much less likely, fired.
I don't actually think we have anyone moving skids in the yard on the LS. Our center is so fucked up that everyone who's come to it from outside of the state has cocked their head sideways at everything we do. The only exception is the LS manager, but he's one of those new hires that came in from the expansion in Texas and has no reason to be in his current position.
Can anyone recommend a cool looking and inexpensive muzzle break for a wasr?
>>30356491
I think the standard tapco slotted brake looks ok.
>>30356491
Your only qualifications for a muzzle break are that it's inexpensive and looks cool?
>>30356529
thanks
>>30356532
yep. for some reason the looks of the one the wasr comes with just bothers me
>>30356529
Man that's a fucking cool pic. That's just a photoshopped version of the one you took a couple years ago yeah?
>5.45 Vepr-1V's when
>>30356553
Yeah, someone was kind enough to photoshop the background out of the original, which was pretty cool to begin with.
I'd just got the gun and needed to shoot it. It was so cold and windy that day that the promag the gun came with seized up and wouldn't feed after a few mins. I brought the gun inside and iced up instantly, so I had to go grab the camera. I went out again at ~0 degrees and the promag worked fine.
>>30356459
I chopped it a bit to make 30 round mag changes easier and 40 round mag use possible
Gotta refinish yet
I've got around 600 rounds of 7n6 left (bought a 5.45 Saiga after the 7n6 ban and never bothered to buy much simply because it was already around the same price as non corrosive new ammo). I've also got close to 6000 rounds of new production 5.45, mostly that sealed Barnaul stuff and Silver Bear.
What should I do with the 600 rounds of 7n6? Should I shoot it before i continue to dig into my non corrosive stash or should I pack it away and save it?
>>30357656
That's kindof a neat idea to make a cool not quite SBR rpk looking thing using one of those $5 grenade launchers.
>saved
>>30357651
>6000 rounds of sealed Barnaul and silver bear
Wew nice
I'd just shoot the 7n6, the can is already open and the Slav time capsule magic is gone. If you want to keep it put it in an ammo can with a good lubricated rubber seal in a room with low humidity and throw in some fresh desiccant packs for good measure. The corrosive primers do have a longer shelf life than non-corrosive primers, but keep in mind said corrosive primers already have 30+ years of age on them already.
>>30357754
Yeah that's what I was thinking, it's already opened so just get it out of the way. I'm still on the fence about picking up some sealed 7n6 simply for long term storage in case I need it for something and just to have a few tins of it for the cool factor, but I'm extraordinarily lazy and hate the more involved cleaning that comes with it (I just end up stripping the rifle down and taking a shower with it and we get to bond) so I might just shoot it to get the more involved cleaning out of the way.
>>30357901
>I just end up stripping the rifle down and taking a shower with it and we get to bond
>>30352610
>pic
where can i get this stock
>>30358297
Are... Are you being serious right now?
>>30358284
Well yeah warm shower water beats using the cold hose up here in Washington and plus my rifle smells like Garnier Fructis like my wife's hair
>>30351787
Went through the linked threads, looking for specific advice for my situation.
1. I don't know anything about rifles, but looking for an AK.
2. Visited 2 local stores near my house in Maine. Both carried various brands or "could order" even more, everything $750 and up. One (say, store A) warned me against RAS47 (due to build quality, barrel type [chrome or something?] etc). Recommended the "M70" ($749.99)
The other (store B) RECOMMENDED the RAS47 and said anyone "on the internet" talking against it and mentioning crooked sights (?) or whatever was full of shit and the build quality was fine.
Opinions? B strongly recommended the Ras47, price was $750 and change. A, as mentioned, specifically said they were not very well built, etc. I dunno what the fuck.
I asked about the WASR at store B after reading good reviews of it online, and the guy at store B said "I don't think you can get those anymore, I havent seen them in a long time". But I've seen them for sale "new" right online myself?? Not sure how that works.
I would just order online but online ordering is confusing as fuck (I'd have to pay a local store to receive the gun anyways, then hand it to me? Uh....) and I'd like to do a lay-a-way type thing with an actual physical store with an owner, so I can kind of keep the expense from the wife, hahahah. $100 a week at the range is not a problem....dropping $700 for a gun...shit brix.
P.S. don't ever get married.
Thanks for any advice, it is appreciated. Sorry if the format is off, I have never visited here before and hope at least the thread is correct.
>>30359069
P.S.
The price list I was given at one store for their availability was:
M70 $759
Ras47 $749
M7Out $799
Don't know if that matters, but there it is.
Seems kind of high to me? I have looked online and it seems like people are talking about picking up WASRs for $600 and change? Is that true? Can you get them still??
>>30359069
>>30359093
Avoid the RAS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7eK2SmGYM
You're better off to just save up cash in a separate account and just purchase what you want in one go after doing your research on what you want to purchase.
Either way, your wife is going to ask questions about a brand new rifle and where the cash came from, so you're probably better off actually talking with her about it, or just man up and fucking get it. You're not going to listen to her anyway, and she'll be pissed either way.
As for buying funs online, just go to your FFL of choice (preferably one that has a reasonable rate for transfers) and ask them if they'll do the transfer, if they say yes, get their FFL info and send it via email to whatever store you buy your rifle online after you complete the purchase.
That or make your purchase and give your FFL the order number, they'll email or fax the store themselves.
It's all pretty easy, you're just too lazy or too dumb to actually look into it, or use a slight amount of common sense.
P.S.
Get the WASR or save up a little extra and get an Arsenal SLR107. Both are bretty gud
>>30357901
>taking a shower with it and we get to bond
Kek. I use the shower method too. I only shoot what (opened) corrosive I have when I plan on shooting a lot in one session. One mag of corrosive is not worth the amount of effort it takes to properly clean up afterwards. And I'm definitely not going to be buying any more 7n6 as range ammo now that it costs as much as non-corrosive.
I might keep some of the 7n6 I have opened right now though because it's from 1976, only two years after the 74 went into production, which I think is cool as hell. Had I known how to interpret the cans at the time I never would have opened that stuff. The crates I have now are mid 80's I think.
>>30359069
>One (say, store A) warned me against RAS47
They're right, the RAS is probably the worst non-IO AK available stateside at the moment.
>Recommended the "M70" ($749.99)
If it's one of the legit M70 builds that CAI outsourced, they're solid as all hell and look cool to boot. Great if you don't really want to do anything to it after getting it.
You can still readily get WASRs, and they very solid, customizable rifles.
>>30359069
>>30359093
>B strongly recommended the Ras47
>price was $750 and change
They were trying to take you for a hell of a ride. Not only is the RAS shit, that's really overpriced. M70 is pretty good but still a little expensive, just make sure you check for all the standard things; cant, mag wobble, etc.
My krink arrived
>>30359268
>One mag of corrosive is not worth the amount of effort it takes to properly clean up afterwards
Back when it was like 10c/r and my main food, I'd use corrosive even if I went out to take 10 shots.
I'd just spray the insides of the rifle with remoil and snake it and swab the chamber quick.
Never rusted a bit.
All that laziness meant was I had to treat anything I shot as corrosive until I properly cleaned my gun. But at least I could keep up with corrosive ammo in under 5 mins of work. I kept this up for a year straight at least, shooting my ak-74 often. I quit doing it once 7n6 got over 15c/r and it just wasn't worth using over noncorrosive ammo.
>>30359443
false suppressor to hide barrel lenght?
>>30359520
Pinned until stamp arrives
>>30359530
how many days you have to wait?
>>30359585
3-4 Months
Whats /akg/'s opinion on the bonesteel arms side folder?
Feel like my interest in ak's has regained again after considering on buying a bunch of shit for my ar15.
Anyone have experience with any of HSP's light mounts on an ultimak? Thinking of getting an ultimak to put a light and possibly a QD sling mount and just using my RS products 301 for my red dot.
>>30359601
Whats that switch under the trunnion?
>>30359740
it's for the folding stock to lock on.
>>30359740
Shoulder thing that goes up
[spoiler] Its a latch that retains the triangle when folded [/spoiler]
>>30359740
It's the switch hat changes the bullets between Afghan seeking and Chechen seeking
>>30359767
>rifle grenades
>not even an M70AB2.
>>30359759
>>30359767
>>30359800
Thank you I previously thought all rear trunniojn shit was in the back.
>>30359716
I like it. My only regret is that i got the left side folder before i realized how nice optics are.
>>30359883
Did you order it from CNC warrior? How long was the wait?
>>30359840
>rear trunniojn shit
how is a shoulder thing that goes up as a switch for bullets to seek afghans or chechens related to rear trunnion?
What should I do with the take off furniture from my SLR104? I've got the standard US made handguards and pistol grip and the non-chrome lined US made 74 brake.
I don't ever plan on putting it back on but I'm not sure if I should sell it or not.
/akg/ if I wanted to create the most accurate reliable version of the ak platform where would I start for my build?
What receiver
What barrel
What trigger
Stock
Sights
Scope
The whole frittata
>>30360558
>ak platform
>my build
You don't have the skills or tools needed to build an AK. It isn't like throwing some parts together in your bedroom like an AR.
>>30352342
Obzor worth your money? Been looking at them extensively but I won't be able to handle one on my AK without actually buying one. I'd love to keep my AK as authentic slavshit as possible but I'm having trouble justifying some of these optics over more conventional western scopes/RDS
is it too high up for you? can you still get some cheek contact on stock?
>>30360558
just buy a VEPR
convert it
slap an AKT trigger on it
>>30355708
>Well if you have access to a mill them yeah. I thought you didn't.
I do, it's just a neighbor's
>>30360623
I love it. My only complaint about it is the price (they went up sometime this year and that put them in Aimpoint PRO territory prices) and it's rather heavy (but AKs are naturally front heavy and the weight of the Obzor helps balance the weight out evenly on the rifle).
It's definitely high, but I still get a decent chin weld and after getting used to that I found it really comfortable. It's gotten to the point that I'm so used to it that when I take the Obzor off the rifle and go to shoulder it I automatically go for a chin weld and end up too high to use the irons so I have to correct myself.
>>30360558
unless you have a decent machine shop or otherwise are able to cut, rivet, and weld(?) a blank cutout of a lower receiver you kinda need to just buy the AK.
The reciever is the "gun" legally and our lovely laws prevent selling of a functional AK reciever. theyre not quite the Lego guns that AR15s are and will cost you more money to make yourself without your own machine shop than it would cost to buy outright. part kits come with everything but the reciever and rivets
>>30360704
if it was ~400-450 at most i'd buy one anyway but now theyre hitting prices of high tier red dots and it's very hard not to say fuck it on aesthetics and go for function.
though that recticle is delicious and may still be a deciding factor.
>>30360748
>$400-$450
One guy on AKfiles imports them and sells them for $440 shipped.
I traded an old beat up Browning Auto 5 (that I only had about $175 put into it) plus $120 for mine and after handling it I'd say it's worth the ~$450 price tag.
>>30360710
>>30360599
I may not have the machine or the skills, however my gunsmith is world class.
So it's more I need to know what parts to get and than I left him work his magic.
>>30360656
Nvr heard about vepr conversations, please tell me more.
>>30360825
Gunsmith =/= Someone who can build an AK
It's a full on fabrication process. You're not understanding just how involved and in depth it is.
Watch Flandre build this for an idea.
>>30360825
arsenal probably makes most of the better individual parts and they have the best barrels far as I know.
the highest tier AK you can get your hands on will probably be the actual gun from arsenal with maybe some fancy aftermarket triggers or springs, but I can't think of too many ways to get an AK to shoot better than having a good barrel.
basically we're saying that if you want the BEST AK you basically buy the best AKs on the market, there arent exactly too many people making extremely high end parts for an AK because the average joe can't sit in his garage and replace those parts in 5 minutes.
building AKs is generally how you get cheap AKs for cheaper than retail on the actual rifle.
>>30360825
well, not in a same way that saigas are converted but to accept ak furniture
>>30359069
>I would just order online but online ordering is confusing as fuck (I'd have to pay a local store to receive the gun anyways, then hand it to me? Uh....) and I'd like to do a lay-a-way type thing with an actual physical store with an owner, so I can kind of keep the expense from the wife, hahahah. $100 a week at the range is not a problem....dropping $700 for a gun...shit brix.
Order from Atlantic if you want a layaway. As for transferring them, it's not hard. Assuming Atlantic has your FFL's info on file you simply select them at check out from the FFL list, chance are they probably do if the store is in a city or large town, and then go there and pay the transfer. The only problem is sometimes small shops will charge ridiculous amount for a transfer (like $40+) however most reasonable shops will charge $15-20 for a transfer. It's really simple, all they do is ship it to your local shop, and you fill out the 4473 like you would any other gun, barring stupid state law stuff. and pay them the transfer fee. Sometimes shipping can be a bit much but just depends. Now if they don't have your FFL on file then it's still pretty simple, you order it, give the store you're ordering from your local FFL's info, and then give your local FFL the order number and other info that they ask for, and the local FFL will fax a copy of their FFL to who you're ordering from and then it will go on as usual.
>>30360856
Forgot link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkPCn3LmaA
I have a Trijicon MRO how should I mount it to pic related?
>>30360934
ultimak or siderail
>>30359505
Well back before the ban 7n6 was all I shot, but it was so cheap I'd never shoot just one mag. I'd load 45 rounders up and just blast away. It'd cost like $3.50 for a full magazine so fuck it.
Now that I know I can no longer replace my 7n6 for the same price I bought it at, I'm less apt to use it wastefully, which means it's more common that I'll only shoot one or two mags of it. I haven't shot corrosive through any of my guns in quite some time now actually.
The sealed Barnaul is treating me well.
>>30352063
>>30352152
So you're hoping someone will want to trade their Arsenal straight across for an Arfcom'd WASR? LOL
>>30360934
RS Regulate, or Attero as a distant second. If it was a T1/T2 I'd say Ultimak, but I think you'd love the RS Regulate. They're great.
>>30360825
>>30360558
>it's a "I'm assuming building an AK is comparable to building an AR" episode
>>30351787
That AK looks weird...
>>30360934
Anybody have experience with the Texas Weapon Systems rails?
>>30351787
Press F to pay respects edition.
>>30361175
Just don't drop it :^).
>>30360856
>Gunsmith =/= Someone who can do anything correctly
Fixed
>>30361150
>being this new
I just noticed that the clear prototype mags that have been coming out recently have the Izhmash triangle on the left side of the magazine. This makes me so upset
Also to the person who sent me this pic, 4chan automatically wipes exif so no worries. Although it was more fun when fags got their addresses posted online because they posted a geotagged pic from their phone.
>>30360504
>I don't ever plan on putting it back on but I'm not sure if I should sell it or not.
hydro dip it into something ridiculous like pic and go out shooting with it on sometimes
>>30361309
What's so bad about the stamp being on the other side?
>>30361426
Autism
>>30360704
I love my pro
>>30360798
Why do you like the soviets war in afghanistan so much?
>>30360504
keep it
maybe you'll build an AK with it someday, or a friend will need an upper handguard or any number of things
having some parts around never hurt anything
hey dudes where can I get a gp-25
>>30352063
I'll buy it from you, if you have the original furniture still
>>30361740
Because it's interesting
Chechen Wars are fine too
Alright /akg/,
Playing with ideas again on what to do with this rifle. This has always kind of been a back burner rifle, so my vision for it has changed a lot over the years as other rifles have joined the collection.
I'll be getting a drill press here shortly and therefore finally equipped to fuck with the FSP / Gas block. Here's what I'm thinking currently.
> TWS Dogleg dust cover / top rail.
> Venom Tactical gas block / front sight.
> UltiMAK M1B gas tube.
> Black polymer AK lower hand guard.
> Thread barrel for 1/2-28 and fit with my choice of muzzle device.
The idea is I can mount my optic (currently have a spare PA Microdot, SPARC II, and ACOG) on the TWS dogleg, and use the rail space on the ultimak for a light mount or sling point, etc.
I think it would also help this ugly fucker in the aesthetic department. What do you guys think?
>>30360798
If you don't mine getting into the technical side of the conflict, picrelated is a pretty good read.
>>30362190
That and The Bear Went Over the Mountain are definitely on my to buy list, but personally I'm much more interested in the fluff and first hand accounts/ memoirs of war from people who were there over the actual crunch and numbers. It's still interesting but it just takes a little more effort on my part to stick with it.
Visiting from another home thread, anyone know if the JMac Customs "GBC-13 - Front Sight Gas Block Combo" are good quality or not? Any alternatives other than finding a real one?
I have a friend in Estonia who has a beautiful saiga, and he wants to have one of these put on it, along with all the other required work. Before I get one and send it his way, I want to make sure there aren't better alternatives.
>Yes, what I'm doing IS legal. It's just 99% of the companies that make funky stuff like this don't ship outside of the USA.
>>30361648
whats the scope name? i need to plan for my slr107 setup
>>30362326
He literally said it in the post you mong
>>30361426
They've been on the right side of every Russian molded mag since the beginning of time
So, autism
anyone know the name of the ak slings with the shoulder padding?
>>30362569
Look up RPK padded slings
Somebody on akfiles had a bunch for a while but you'll probably have a hard time finding them now
>>30362638
Not as difficult as you might think, apparently.
http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Rpk+sling&isNewKw=1&isRefine=true&mfs=GOCLK&acimp=0&_trksid=p2056088.m2428.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xrpk+sling&sqp=rpk+sling
How many people in /akg/ are also on AKfiles? I'm friends with Flandre (not that he even knows who I am) but that's it
>>30362684
I lurk the market place once in a while.
![WP_20160219_001[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tDkJzX8.jpg "WP_20160219_001[2].jpg")
>>30362668
>Ukraine
>Russian Fed
Great, looks like I'm playing the customs waiting game again...
>>30362684
I am, but just for the marketplace.
The rest of that place is a fucking disaster.
>>30362699
Yeah, that's about all I do there too. I check every few days for anything interesting. I've been a member for nearly four years now but only have like 40 posts because I only post when I have a question I can't find an answer to elsewhere or when I post an I'll take it in the MP.
>>30362668
cheers i ordered 2
>>30362684
anyone who has a real interest in AK pattern guns would be on akfiles
>>30362706
Seems like I'm constantly doing that.
My nosey ass mailman keeps asking me what I'm getting from the Ukraine, Serbia, Russia etc when I sign for the stuff.
>Model train parts
>Wood grip for tool
>Plastic box and spring
Mind your own damn business buddy.
>>30362684
i look around in AK47 general and the marketpalce
>>30362638
tfw I paid $50 for mine a year ago
>tffw I paid $165 for a 40rd 7.62 bakelite a year ago
>tfw they sell for about $100 now
A-at least mine is m-museum grade, heh right guys?
>>30362706
Anbody know a place to pick up one of those top loading AK drums for less than $130?
I have a rear loader that has been nice, but the top loader looks way better in the RPK
>>30362684
I no longer even check the akfiles marketplace, fuck that place
>>30362668
Oh neat
>>30362809
http://www.apexgunparts.com/magazines/ak47-75rd-drum-magazine-7-62x39-romanian-military-issue.html
:^)
>Yugo kit
My nigger, I just recently ordered an npap df and going to get a m76 sniper rifle built next month.
>>30354126
Not as much demand for them as 7.62 mags which come in by the boat load, so the price is higher.
>>30362854
Directed too
>>30359767
![WP_20151228_023[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1W2Pq93.jpg "WP_20151228_023[1].jpg")
>>30362809
Apex. Back-loaders work, but surplus top-loaders are just too based to not be #1.
>>30362809
>>30362845
are top loaders inferior in terms of longterm storage? vs full backloader with no tension
>>30362925
That's not how springs work, so they're both likely about equal in terms of long-term storage.
>>30362914
Too bad they don't have a 100 round top loader.
>>30362845
>>30362914
So nowhere less than $125? I see the rear loaders go sometimes in the $70-80 range, but I don't need a second drum that bad, as good as it looks.
>>30362925
Doesn't matter.
>>30362945
Did the ruskis ever make drums?
What's one worth? Are there issues when shipping magazines from those sort of countries to burgerland?
>>30362954
They used to be way cheaper. Hell I remember a two years ago I order two of those Romanians off Apex for about $50 a piece, for some stupid reason I returned them because they would have required modification to fit in my rifles PLUS they're just heavy as fuck
>>30362983
do u lift senpai
>>30362983
yeah, SGammo has em listed for $89, out of stock of course.
I guess I'll see if they ever come back. If not I'll pony up, or get lucky.
>tfw got my chink rear loader still in 80s cosmoline for $50 on Armslist 3-4 months after Sandy Vag
Couldn't believe it when the guy actually responded to my email. He could have gotten 4x that.
>>30362996
When they're fully loaded they're not exactly comfy for range shooting. Also they're just clunky and get in the way. I still regret returning them though
>>30363012
I got a romanian 75 round rear loader off sportsmans guide like a month ago with a coupon for $80.
>>30362962
If they didn't, I want to know who the hell supplied them with the drum mags for their RPKs.
>>30362954
I got mine for $90 about a year and a half ago from SGAmmo. Just about everything AK-related these days is more expensive than it used to be (just another reason the AR market has exploded).
>>30363042
same was 99
fuck alaska shipping
>>30363012
>SGammo has em listed for $89, out of stock of course.
Yeah, that was from when I got mine early 2015. That ain't happenin' again.
Which is the better 5.45x39 ammo for HD? Silver Bear or Hornady V-Max?
>>30363015
I bought mine for hip firing while slung with an underfolder. I don't really feel the desire for more than one since it's just a fun thing.
>>30363119
if we are talking hollow points only the cheaper option is better
As the owner of an SKS and an AR, I'm a bit torn. Do I go with a DDI-74 for dat 5.45 lazer gun goodness, or do I just go with a DDI AKM for all the parts/ammo commonality?
>>30363201
Nah mang
>>30363227
all akm furniture that I know of will fit an ak74. Go with whichever caliber you like.
>>30363664
Unrelated, but are there any SKS variants with a significantly longer wooden handguard?
FUCK I wish my ALG trigger would arrive already.
>>30363687
I believe the Albanian variant has a much longer gas tube hand guard.
>>30358537
yes. its one of the nicest triangle folders ive seen so far, it prolly the arsenal triangle i guess?
>>30363743
It's an Arsenal SLR-106FR (.223) that had the black plastic stock replaced with a steel triangle folder of Tula origin
>>30359443
Krink mafia
>>30363664
I meant that there is a larger aftermarket and more ammo for AKMs than for 74s
>>30364012
well, AKM magazines are cheaper and more available. Like I said before mostly all akm stocks/attachments will fit on ak74s. As far a ammo goes, the prices end up being around the same. Availability of ammo depends on your local stores/gun shops. There is a lot more variety to 7.62x39 than 5.45. With 5.45 there is pretty much just fmj and ballistic tip while there are things like soft point, Hollow point, and plenty of other hunting loads with 7.62x39. I honestly prefer 5.45.
So I picked up a WASR-10 today, along with a few magazines.
Polymer magazines (two PMags, two Thermolds, and a Bulgarian 40 round) fit just fine, but the steel 20 rounder is extremely tight on the mag release and both the steel 30 rounders won't latch at all. Any advice on fixing that, or am I screwed for steel mags?
Not sure if this thread is still alive, but I have a side folding m&m m10 and am looking for another similarly priced ak; preferably one with a fixed stock. My primary concern for this one is reliability in a shtf situation. Any recommendations? I heard the c39 v2 is pretty nice but I'd like some options.
>>30364129
Can't tell if carefully crafted b8 or not
>>30364217
Is it actually that stupid of a question? I'm just looking for an old school reliable ak and figure that shtf is the closest context to put that in. I've done almost no research on ak's though, is it that c39's are actually shit?
>>30364486
C39's are fucking terrible
>>30364128
File the locking lug on the rear of the steel mags until they fit. Take a little at a time.
Also don't buy shitty Korean mags or Gypsy AKs.
>>30365004
Well that's why I'm here asking questions and I'm open to suggestions, just has to be $900ish or less
>>30365058
A WASR.
>>30365122
Now who's trolling.
>>30365004
they aren't that bad
Just overpriced for the quality that you are getting
>>30365007
>Korean
Well, that's the 20 rounder.
>Gypsy
...Do Croatian mags count for that?
>>30365160
There is literally nothing wrong with WASRs you faggot. They're the best budget AK's
>>30365987
>furniture
wew
>>30365994
That's was a Legion "exclusive" Saiga with Emerald Green Izhevsk Masters furniture.
>Way overpriced for the rifle (~$2k iirc) and the furniture alone was $400.
Nice looking rifle and furniture but extremely steep.
>>30362814
>I no longer even check the akfiles marketplace, fuck that place
You get burned or something? Keep missing the good deals?
I know this is taken from a videogame, but which is correctly sighted? Is it personal preference? Seems like if you were aiming at something tiny it'd be a huge pain in the ass to have the middle pin obscuring whatever you're trying to hit
>>30366294
>Is it personal preference?
It can be, but the right-most is generally correct.
I put my point of impact right on the top of my post.
So if I was shooting at a sparrow for instance, I'd put my sights so it looks like it's sitting right on the top of my post.
>>30366412
So generally you wouldn't want the post actually touching what you're shooting at?
>>30366503
Mine would be touching, but not quite blocking the 3" or so spot where I expect the bullet to hit.
>>30366294
Rob Ski said the top of the post should be be at the beltline of a human target at 100 meters iirc.
What's /akg/'s opinion on combloc customs? I'm looking to get some wood furniture for my SAM7SF and their shit looks good
>>30366538
That depends ENTIRELY on how you zeroed the thing.
>>30357656
How is the stormwerkz hinge attached to the back? Is it just drilled in to the standard pistol trunnion?
>>30351971
I got three of these with the original pouch when I bought my AMD-65. They're my favorite of the steelies I own
>>30359326
How do you know whether or not a century build is outsourced?
>>30360998
I really miss those cheap 545 days... 54r is slipping the same way.
And I'm using barnaul sealed ammo too and love it. It's identical to the silverbear in all but looks, but I'm willing to pay a little extra for sealed sexy ammo that comes in a neat spam can.
>>30366547
Bait
>>30366690
Usually when it's built in a competent manner.
Those M70AB2s were built for Century by a company that actually knew how to go about it, the result being a very solidly built clone of a Yugo underfolder AK, complete with GL sight. The only downside was that they came with these awful, horrible looking plastic handguards.
>>30366746
>I should have bought one when they were 500$
>>30366756
You don't know regret.
>>30366738
Not bait, I'm legitimately asking if they're good. You can all make fun of me for falling for the milled meme but I don't give a fuck
>>30366147
Nah I just hated akfiles to begin with, and checking the marketplace constantly was an obsessive habit that left me constantly broke, either that or distraught over the cool stuff I was missing out on.
>>30366699
Your Barnaul definitely has a thinner lacquer in that pic. My stuff was ever so slightly thinner but not nearly that big of a difference. I see what you were talking about now.
I clearly remember going to gun shows and seeing this one guy there with an entire fucking pallet of 7n6. At the time not many people were shooting 5.45 yet so I couldn't figure out how it could be worth it to him to transport this stuff. I bought a couple cans from him.
![WP_20151228_017[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pHVjceV.jpg "WP_20151228_017[1].jpg")
>>30362684
It's the ARfcom of AKs, except somehow managing to have more fits of indignant rage and melodrama
sporter config saiga or wasr#2
>i can't decide
>>30366766
I still can't help but breath a sigh of relief when I think of how I might have passed up the psl.
I saw one at a gunshop a month or two ago, over $1500 bucks and didn't come with half the stuff mine did when I bought from the same shop in 2009.
>>30365058
DDI
>>30366294
i prefer the right one
>>30366640
What's so great about them? Good range mags?
>>30367241
Not him, but size, they're handy.
>>30366782
Some guy in here always posts a combloc custom stock photo, I was curious if he was the business owner or something
I like the SAM7 rifles in ways. Looks like a late term abortion but they are so solid. Why not just buy a surplus handguard set?
>>30367030
What even happened to PSLs? I doubt they were banned from import, is CAI not able to get a contract?
>>30367310
I agree totally that they are ugly as fuck, but the features are redeeming. I figured if I spent that much money on the rifle, I could at least try and make it look nice with good wood. Would I be able to notice any difference in quality if I went with surplus?
>>30367388
Likely they're getting scooped up by 3rd world arsenals, because you see them in every "sniper" photo in the middle-east-conflict generals. Replacement barrels are impossible to get in the US, at this point.
>>30367388
Here's the story I heard... Whether it's true or not? IDK
A batch of them came into the country with evil 3rd holes in the receivers, and the ATF or whoever pretty much stomped out the imports on them.
But, I've also seen the importation of the psl scopes go to zero. I used to buy them for 100 bucks each and throw on all my rifles. I currently have 5, and they're worth a ton more now than they were then since the imports seem to have stopped for years at this point.
IIRC, the scopes kept coming in long after the rifle imports stopped.
>>30362684
I made an account just for the marketplace, but I'm not sure if it'll let me buy straight away or if I have to make posts elsewhere or some shit.
>>30366814
Pretty much this. I'm sure it can be a great website if you pretend that every other website in the world for discussing firearms doesn't exist.
>>30367550
>3rd holes
PSLs are odd ducks. For the longest time, they were considered "Sporting" and didn't need US parts because they never had evil features. Then they started shipping a handful with bayonet lugs. Like someone in the Cugir factory keeps pushing the "make a normal AK" button every now and then.
>>30367500
I've never handled any US made furniture, but I have read the wood they use tends to be of lower quality.
fwiw if I kept.my SAM7 I would have cloned something along the lines of this pic related
