Would you buy an M1 Carbine reproduction chambered in .357 Magnum?
>>29340364
I'd buy any mag-fed semiauto rifle in .357.
Assuming it wasn't too pricey and worked as designed with no major flaws, probably.
>>29340364
No
I already reload 30 carbine
& 357 for that matter, but I already own 3 carbines, I'm not buying another one anytime soon
I sure would. I think I'm on of the few people on this board that actually like pistol caliber carbines. Now if they made it in .44, that would be pure sex
>>29340364
I might consider it but I would be more inclined to grab one in .44 magnum or 10mm
>>29341933
I love pistol carbines.
>>29340364
I want to say yes but 30 carbine is 7.62mm diameter.
>>29340364
10mm would be a better choice for feed reliability with around the same power. I'd want it kept as a gas-operated action, though, fuck those straight blowback "M1 carbines".
>>29342192
fuck you meme ammo
What about one that fed from Glockazines, so there's no more magazine issues ever?
>>29340364
what would 7.62 tok carbine be like
>>29340364
No I would not, but then I've got no love for the M1 or its carbine version.
I know I know, fag, heretic, etc. Fuck off. ping does nothing for me.
>>29343411
Carbine doesn't ping ignoramus. You should shoot one before you shit on it. Those carbines are handy as shit. Would be cool to get one in a more useful caliber though.
Its already been done as a conversion to .50AE
>>29343474
I need this
Link
>>29341933
>>29341987
I love PCCs, fun and cheap to shoot, but enough punch for self defense
>>29343411
Garand and m1 carbine have nothing in common lol
>>29341997
>what is rechambering
>>29340381
Didn't ruger made some 10/22's in .44 magnum? I remember seeing one a while back I and I probably would have picked it up if it was .357 instead.
>>29340364
if it was realible
>>29342199
he is right tho, rimless and case length would make it much easier
>>29340364
if it uses standard .357 magnum and not one of those AutoMag rounds, I would buy one
it should also have a reasonable price
>>29343523
Yes the .44 carbine alao has another name deersomethingorother; my dad has one. Best whitetail brushgun ever made imo. Perfect for doing drives or walking through swamps and other tick stuff. Downfall is only really accurate to about 75 or 85 yds; the bullet really wanders at 100 yds; definitely drops quite a bit.
Also fwiw my dads is awesome but his cousin has one that jams constantly with fte's... I mean like its hard to actually get 5 rds out without a jam.
Also these fuckers were all priced at $650-$800 at the last show I went to which is way high imo
>>29340404
Is the second one down a Windchester made?
>>29343538
But that guy was also wrong about the power of the round. Really nuclear loads for 10mm are in the low-mid to mid range for .357 magnum loads, and in a rifle, you better believe that you can hit the upper limit for what .357 is capable of.
>>29343406
PPsh 41
>>29340364
Sure.
>>29340381
This. Either it has a tube-mag, or a fixed double-stacked mag on the bottom you can load with stripper-clips.
>>29341933
I love smaller caliber rifles, cheap and fun.
>>29343523
Yeh, Ruger Deerfield, it was partially based on the Garand action.
I imagine you could get a lot better range with them if you use Leverevolution ammo.
Would be sick with a 10rd mag
>>29340364
Yes, someone makes a repro that takes Beretta 92 mags, but they look like smashed asshole.
>>29344161
If the .357 mag or .44 mag versions used magazines that resembled the originals, and they WORKED. Then, yeah, I'd get one.
>>29343722
Again, you could probably reach out to about 100yds with Leverevolution ammo.
>>29344161
The Chiappa carbines don't work for shit though.
>>29344208
this
as long as it looks as close to a ww2 model especially with the magazines, also it would have to work reliably i would be willing to pay more if it can be verified that it works fine
I sure would, especially if it came with multiple stock designs.
>>29342199
Oh he must have forgotten than super versatile cartridge that's still used by various agencies and is now more popular with enthusiasts than ever while having several new firearms hit the market in the last year. is a meme because you said so. Sorry you can't but contract overruns.
>>29343494
M1 Carbines have been done in just about anything that'll fit 3 rounds in the magazine including
.357
.41 mag
9x23
.45 win mag
10mm mag
.30 carbine wildcats.
You can't only go so far beyond hot. 357 before the lugs start to let go though. There we're a lot of guys playing with em when they we're the nugget of semi autos
>>29343722
The last two I saw, both tube and mag fed we're about $2000 NIB. If ruger decided to bring em back they would sell pretty well. The 77/.357 and 77/.44 are doing OK but the mags would have to be worked out. The issues being the wide power range, rims and occasional bullet setback with really hot ammo
>>29340364
So much yes.
>>29344161
God I hate Chiappa. Such a good idea, such terrible follow through.
>>29344303
That's why I >>29344208 clarified that it had to work as well as look properly lol
>>29340364
why? theyre identical in power
>>29345119
Availability and price
>Bu..but I can buy .30 carbine still!
Yes, you can. But there are a hell of a lot more stores carrying .357, and in much larger varieties. Also, cheaper.
>>29343722
Same anon here
My grandfather also has a ruger 96/44 which is a lever action 44 mag using the same carbine stock/barrel
why
GI Carbines aren't expensive.
>>29340364
Would I blow myself if I didn't have a gut?
The answer is probably and that applies to the rifle.
>>29344519
You can make double-stacked mags for rimmed cartridges, they just have to be curved enough.
Pic related is a 7.62x54mmR 20rd mag for an LMG, you could easily make a double-stacked .357 boxmag in 10rds, it would be a bunch of firepower, and it would only somewhat curved.
>>29344492
>M1 Carbine
>in .45 win mag and 10mm mag
That's sexy.
>>29344633
I have mixed feelings about them.
Some of their products are better made, some are just not, and their QC is really odd, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's really bad.
Yes i would.
Shit make it a rimless 357 and id whip my wallet out so fast itd combust.
>>29345119
>>29345184
.30 Carbine isn't dirt cheap anymore
Also you can load .357 with heavier bullets.
Although .30 Carbine is a better carbine cartridge.
>>29345212
>rimless .357
>entire point is that regular rimmed .357 is cheap and common
>want special snowflake variant that does the exact same thing
Just go for the regular .30 Carbine, it will do what you want.
>>29343722
>>29343722
Same guy yet again;
Apparently there is a difference between the .44 carbine and the Deerfield as seen here. Our carbine looks the same as the top rifle; which essentially looks the same as a 10/22 with a larger barrel obviously
>>29345226
>the entire point is
And better ballistics, better bullets, better magazine options. The AMP was legitimately a good round
I'd buy any M1 Carbine repro that actually works.
Goddamn does anybody make one that actually functions
>>29345689
Why bother with a reproduction when you can buy an original that works on the cheap?
>>29343500
Besides the basic function of the fucking bolt?
>>29345716
Where though
>>29345773
anywhere in America
On Gunbroker they go from $600-850
>>29343735
>3 rifles
>"is the second one down [...]"
>Windchester
>>29340364
I want 9mm Luger, nobody can get repros of the M1 right. We don't want 30carb, .22LR, etc. Give us a modern caliber, preferably one that is cheap and prolific.
Chiappa fucked up on their repro, it is a hideous jam-o-matic abomination.
>>29344462
The hottest 10mm is on par with low-moderately loaded .41 Magnum. To get its true potential you have to hand load and even then you're dealing with much harsher recoil and pressure.
10mm for the most part is severely meme tier.
>>29345969
Welcome to 4chan, where anons actually are autistic. I hate to even use that term but goddamn if that guy not using "the middle one" bothers you then you may want to get help
>>29345199
.357 Desert Eagles have 9 round magazines and are entirely straight. The double stack would widen it but not necessarily curve it anymore.
Just depends on how they stack them.
>>29346213
>autistic
you mean /r9k/
being picky isn't autism or aspbergers or whatever. people can be nit-picky, pedantic, or anal about a lot of things; but going to a classic car forum and not understanding the difference between a bonnet and a hood is seen as just being ignorant about the subject.
calm your tits.
>>29343411
Iirc, the only part an M1 Garand and M1 Carbine have in common is a single screw somewhere on the firearm.
>>29346293
Well yeah, one's .30 Carbine and the other is .30-06
it's slightly different.
>>29346312
no, i think what he's getting at is they are completely unrelated guns. they have no common parts, completely different design and designers, and so on.
the M1 rifle and the M1 carbine are about as related as the M1 submachine gun and the M1 tank are.
>>29345716
To be fair, of the specs we're right, having a NIB carbine with factory support and a warranty is a good thing.
>>29346206
No, no it's not, stop repeating that shit. The hottest .357 mag will outpace the hottest. 10mm and. 41 is above both. Just because you read that reported on forums 1000 times doesnt make it true. 10mm magnum will run with. 41 mag, 10x25 will not
>>29340364
No, but only because I don't like how the M1 carbine feels when I hold it; the trigger location feels like it's made for someone with fingers twice as long as mine.
Tfw large hands, but big palms and short fingers.
>>29346322
>completely different design
not really
They're both op rod actuated rotating Garand bolts with aperture sights
>>29346206
As for your meme tier be consider this. Anybody that's actually into the caliber is either already reloading or they're buying from double-tap, Buffalo bore, Underwood etc. Nobody buys a 10mm for the umc bulk packs at academy (mine carries federal). Just because it isn't on the shelf for .20cpr in you're area or doesnt have a use in you're rotation doesnt make it "severely meme tier"
>>29340364
yes, but I agree with this guy >>29341986
.44fags like me are limited to leverguns, single shots, and ruger's bastardized push feed mk77 for rifles. inb4 those two Ruger .44 semis since they're unobtanium now
>>29346269
The issue is that neither of those terms we're incorrect. It wasn't a clip/mag situation to begin with.
As for the use of autism, it lost it's meaning here a week after it caught on so it's use is about as broad and shitty as DSM-5 anyway
>>29345969
who is that fatty patty
>>29340364
The better question is "Why wouldn't you buy an M1 reproduction chambered in .357 Magnum?"
>>29346463
well yeah, i agree there. "cuck" is the new "autism" is the new "fag". a word that's lost all meaning with repetition and increasingly imaginative contexts.
>>29340364
If it isn't a shit repro like basically every one that's out right now, count me in. I'd prefer one in .44 mag, though.
>>29346345
and a Thompson has a barrel and peep sight, just like the Combat Car does. infact the Combat Car has 2 barrels!
no, really, they are more or less completely different and some parts look similar but are scaled down.
>>29346666
Hey satan,did you catch the UMP thread where 4 guys said the UMP was an updated Thompson?
>>29340364
I'd honestly take any autoloading .357 mag rifle.
.357 is my favorite cartridge. So many options for it, in hand loading. Still trying to make a 200-250 yard round for my handi-rifle.
>>29346810
You gotta pay to play anon.Granted I'm sure you could make a much better thought out conversion than this goddamn thing, but the Desert Eagle is a gas op rotating bolt with good mags.
>>29345235
Yeah they ceased production at one point, then re-released it some years later radically redesigned, vaguely based on the Mini-14 action.
>>29345661
>The AMP was legitimately a good round
Are you talking about the .357AMP?
Because that's not just an auto-rimmed variant of the .357 Magnum, it's a .44AMP necked down to .357 caliber, kind of like how .440CorBon is a .50AE necked down to .44 caliber
Now, an M1 Carbine in .357AMP would be an amazing shooter, but it wouldn't be economical, it's a very rare cartridge, the only way to shoot it is to load your own.
>>29346219
True, but I was thinking a fixed mag, or a mag with a shorter profile. Desert Eagle magazines are also pretty shifty and not something I would really want to rely on for anything serious or dangerous.
>>29346717
Honestly I would say the UMP is inferior to a Tommygun, it's cheaper and lighter, indeed, but it's a terrible subgun.
>>29346981
I brought up. 357AMP yes, the anon before me just wanted a Rimless. 357. The closest I could think of would be 9x25D which is still necked down but more available, 9x23win which is about the same. The best route I can think of would be 5.56 based brass, but that doesn't leave a whole lot to headspace on
>>29345716
For myself specifically, I'm in Canada
I virtually never see GI models (only Auto Ordnance shit), and even if I got one the barrel is like 2 inches short of the threshold for a non-restricted semi auto (highly restricting what it can be used for)
If there were a *good* repro made with a slightly longer barrel we'd be all over it
>>29347047
Yeah it's similar in that's it's a blow back .45 and that's it. Huge variances in price,size, weight, material, ROF, usage blah blah. Modern M3 would have slightly more apt but still. Then again people think the BHP/CZ75 and AR18/SCAR are clones
>>29340364
It would be fun in Fallout New Vegas, in real life it would depend on the price. Its a neat gun; but I'm not going to pay $1000 for an M1 carbine repro.
I also wonder if it would have trouble loading rimmed ammunition. I know that the Coonan .357 magnum M1911 can pull it off; but it would take some engineering. If someone could pull it off it might be fun in 30-30 too.
>>29345969
>not knowing that winchester made m1 carbines during the war
>>29340364
>d00d .357 MAGNUM
still piss weaker than the average rifle caliber and drops like a cum soaked rag at 100 yards, no thanks. Just as retarded as 10millimemer ar15's etc
>>29347313
.357 and .30 are comparable ballistically, that's the idea
>>29347253
Don't take this the wrong way but you sound a little new. 30-30 is close to the size of 7.62nato and the M1911 is a very specific very old 1911.
>>29347313
Good think PCCs aren't made to be camp Perry guns then. 125gr bullets getting close to 2100fps are plenty respectable. 10mm ARs are stupid because they're blowback and can't take advantage of the barrel length. Everything else you said was just to be a lazy contrarian dick
>>29347253
>Don't take this the wrong way but you sound a little new. 30-30 is close to the size of 7.62nato and the M1911 is a very specific very old 1911.
Don't take this the wrong way; but you sound like you've been here for a few months just long enough to know that only the first generation of M1911s are actually M1911s; but not long enough to realize that no one gives a flying fuck or cares to specify if they're talking about an A1 or a model 70 or model 80 or whatever every time they mention a 1911 and fuck me if I even know what variant of the 1911 the Coonan is based on.
Seriously dude, no one gives a fuck, no one is impressed and you sound like a twat for correcting me.
Also 30-30 is much closer to 7.62 X 39 than to 7.62 nato.
>>29347573
The Coonan is "based" on the look of a 1911. No barrel link, different breechface, external extractor, hinged trigger, larger frame etc etc. Its based on a 1911 the same way modern pistols are based on the Browning lockup. As far the 30-30 thing have a picture so you can calm your shitfit long enough to see where I said it's close to the SIZE of 7.62nato and didn't mention shot about ballistics. But if you want to talk ballistics then the 30-30 can push a 190 as fast as the x39 can push a 150.
Now you and I can both pull up the archive and go back a few months since the old one is long dead, or we can do a search to dig some old noot not and candlejack shit to act like we've been here however long so it doesn't matter. I was referring to firearms in general.
>>29347768
>candlejack means your an oldfag
DESU DESU MOTHERFUCKER
>>29347815
Reread the post and try again
>>29347845
Told tell me how to live my life fuccboi
What about a fat M1 Carbine in 7.62x39?
>>29348668
it's called a Mini-30
>>29340364
Yes. Somebody Call Coonan
>>29348681
What about a dual barrel M1 Carbine in 22 WMR
>>29349310
>you will never own a quad-barrel M1 Carbine in .50 BMG
>>29343850
>Really nuclear loads for 10mm are in the low-mid to mid range for .357 magnum loads,
Wrong.
>>29347253
Inland makes one of these puppers
>>29340381
This.
>>29340364
Does the catholic church protect peadophiles?
