upper, coffee, knife edition
old thread >>29298526
>>29305313
first for normie groups
>>29305313
First for nighttime innawoods with no weapon light
Have any of you guys heard anything about the Echo Trigger by Fostech?
It's the same concept as Franklin Armory's BFS, but they claim to have fixed the hammer follow issue. Apparently they actually filed for their patent before Franklin Armory, actually got ATF approval, and the trigger is designed to fit inside all lowers and won't require machining or shimming at all to fit.
It almost sounds too good to be true. If they somehow managed to fixed the hammer follow issue it will be worth the $480 asking price.
Curious George you were right, it's gotta be the upper. I swapped everything out and switched lowers, still hung up. Bummer. It's a PTAC stainless steel AR if anyone was curious. Thanks ya'll.
In.
>>29305461
>PTAC
>>29305469
I know. It was 170 bucks, so why not?
>>29305501
Because PTAC has been known to be absolute shit for a long, long time.
If somebody offered to sell you a pile of dogshit for $5, would you buy it?
Nyet
>>29305529
I'm not looking to buy literal dogshit. I did purchase figurative dogshit though.
>>29305461
Aha have you shot it yet?
It will operate reliably depending on how bad it is. i could accept it but... It would bother me.
See this is again circumstances where carbine gassed 16" with big port and h3 buffer+red coded springco would power through like nothing.
If you have shot say more than 200 rounds the high spot should be very clear.
I documented my anderson bad upper before i sent it back to anderson. I have pictures on my phone somewhere or maybe on my comupter which have backup phone data.
Wanna see?
I repeat anderson took care of me nicely they send me new upper which's great fit with my lower minimal wobble the carrier also have minimal wobble in the upper. I have maybe 500 through that upper. I love it but eh the rail arent numbered.
Sorry about the grainy pic, it's getting dark out.
I just put on my new hand guard and front sight, originally I had a carbine length 'standard' hand guard.
I don't know how I feel about my rifle now. It's super comfortable compared to the former configuration, but it just doesn't feel right. I did all the installation properly and it went smoothly, I just feel like I fucked up and something deep inside of me wants to have a basic-bitch black rifle again.
I'm considering going back to the standard config. I just don't like my rifle as much as I used to, even if it was basic as fuck.
>>29305562
Pic of original config
>>29305555
Sure would. Nice quads. It's probably way too late to send it back, got it in late 2014.
>>29305393
I believe the gun show was at a venue called The Expo Center. Pretty sure Italia is just machining better ruger lc9 mags.
Alright senpaitachi, what color/pattern should I paint this stripped lower
>>29305678
M90
>>29305678
battleship grey.
>>29305708
2mainstream now
>>29305731
Only like 3 of us have it bb
>>29305562
>>29305579
It looks good man. Personally I don't think the MFT Minimalist stocks look good with VFGs so I think an AFG would be in order. Also maybe get some Keymod rail covers? Any plans for an optic? Is that the UTG QD mount on the front?
>>29304563
Okay fuddlore imperialis.
>Small game hunting
>Wants an AR-10
>>29304840
>>29304849
Ah that makes sense.
>>29305005
What pack is that on the left?
Shot with my little brothers today. Bought them Battlefield 4 as well.
>>29305719
was hoping to use colors i already have desu senpai
>>29305742
2 too many desu
>>29305762
I cri
>>29305754
I cant tell you off the top of my head. Got it off amazon and its bretty cumfy.
14.5" Standard Midlength BCM DD-Lite Rail III URG w/ A2 FSB
w/ Surefire Warcomp P&W'd
Troy Rear Battlesight
Trijicon TA31F ACOG
LMT SOPMOD LRG w/ 2S FCG
Good build or bad build.
>>29305313
>college fag
Stay here and shit post tonight or go down town and fuck around
>not 21
So drinking wouldn't be easy
what's a better fcg than milspec but not too expensive?
>>29305787
drop the troy sight and you good
>>29305580
No no no have a faith shoot them a email or call them. Have a tone like you believe they would do you right.
Cant hurt to try. But if they wont.
You can also sand down the high spot. If high spot isnt so high you could lace the carrier with lapping compound and fuck the upper with the carrier vigorously for like 1k stroke.
If its very high fuck the anodizing you can sand it the fuck down.
Or sell it off to some poor sumbitch.
Personally i would work on it.
Im digging for pic right now.
Digging intensifies please wait....
>>29305808
Cryptic or nothing
>>29305808
larue mbt if you dont mind waiting
>>29305678
If you've got the time and desire I'd like to see someone try out the Montactical Flecktarn stencils.
http://www.montactical.com/product/flecktarn-camouflage-stencil-kit/
Also what do you guys think about red dot and magnifier setups?
>>29305754
I ask once again how you like your ncstar keymod cover?
>>29305817
ummmm....
>>29305818
pretty much a poormans geissele? interesting. What's the wait time?
>>29305814
Thanks mi amigo.
>>29305754
Not a fan of AFGs, and I don't plan on getting rail covers.
I prefer iron sights to red dots because every red dot I've ever looked through is blurry and distorted, I think there's something wrong with my eyes.
I was thinking about getting a 1-4x optic but I don't really know how much I want to spend.
>>29305776
What would approximate the capacity to be? Is there an internal frame?
>>29305787
Sounds good to me.
>>29305838
>Also what do you guys think about red dot and magnifier setups?
ratarded
>>29305844
>pretty much a poormans geissele?
ehh i wouldnt say that. qb has one and said its the same as a ssa-e. i have an ssa-e and am waiting for my mbt to ship. no idea what the wait times are but for $125 ya cant complain
>>29305839
I'm sorry George I thought I answered a couple threads ago.
I highly suggest you pass on them. They're made of some slightly rigid rubber, and do not fasten securely to the rail. I've since replaced them with the BCM Keymod covers and I am pretty happy with those. NCStar makes airsoft stuff, and it shows. Skip them my friend.
>>29305857
I don't remember details. Amazon search 3-day assault pack. No frame, but big enough for a 7 week europe trip.
>>29305871
>Red dot and magnifier setups
>Retarded
Are you sure about that?
Pic related.
>>29305889
Yeah wasnt going buy them just curious if they are utter shit or just shit or surpisely doable.
>>29305847
It isnt on my phone but i found on my laptop.
Resizing them right now.
>>29305911
cool pic senpai +1 upboat. shits still stupid
I bought this for a new stupid lightweight build. Apparently it's lighter than a poly set.
After researching the weight of all the parts in the build, it will weigh 4lbs11oz with an RMR on it when complete.
How'd I do?
>>29305924
Not utter shit, just shit.
The BCM ones work well.
>>29305932
>>29305941
fugg me im retarded
>>29305941
Where can I even buy that?
I was going to go that route, but I wanted a matching upper.
>>29305932
well you post child porn on /b/ on a regular basis so i'd say you did "belongs in jail" tier
>>29305579
ID on that stock? Thoguhts? Looks lightweight
>>29305960
its an AERO prototype, i dont think they ever sold em
these guys have something similar but its sold out
http://www.revolvr.com/ar-15-skeleton-lowers.html
>>29305976
Mission First Tactical
I didn't know posting in roll threads could get you b&
Also RIP M90bro
for cg
here is the latch i dremeled, gave it a bit of an angle so it would be less likely to release on it's own.
i'll post a video in a bit.
>>29305976
MFT Minimalist. I have no 1st person accounts.
>>29305984
>http://www.revolvr.com/ar-15-skeleton-lowers.html
Yeah, but that doesn't have a matching upper
>>29305999
That longer than 26" from barrel to buffer?
>>29305976
MFT Minimalist.
It's cheap, I think I paid $50 at Cabelas. Build quality is 7/10, but it's pretty sturdy, it locks up very well and hardly wobbles. They are relatively light.
>>29306011
that aero one is only 2.7oz lighter. doesnt seem worth it
>>29306030I don't have the barrel yet, but I think it'll be ~27" crown to buffer.
It's 28" from the end of the handguard to buffer though.
In
I only own Glocks and AR's, what is the go-to semi auto shotgun? With NO pistol grip.
notice where i apply force
>>29305847
Here.
1/4
>>29306097
Check pic related out.
>>29306001
do you wear a helmet normally? because thats some retarded shit.
>>29305838
Postits
It's funny how cheap builds end up not being so. I don't even have the Larue MBT or Sandman-L in hand yet.
>>29306176
>>29306124
hey, try what i did in the webm, please.
i want to see if it is because of the raptor or my upper.
i tried it with my other upper and while more resistant, it still broke loose.
let me know if it even tries to release itself.
ore ANYONE with a RAPTOR could try this, i would greatly appreciate it.
>>29306121
ok, i think it might be the design of the raptor or maybe mine is just worn out.
>>29306216
have you already bought the mbt? if so when
>>29306227
>ore
kek, meant "or"
>>29306224
First for Klown /k/ommando vigilantes.
>>29306227
yeah my raptor does it, so what my charging handle opens when I stick a tool in there.
NZ fag here.
Note the shitty stock design. No pistol grips allowed unless special condition on our firearm license and limited to 7rnds.
>>29306267
Kek, where you from?
>>29306303
yeah but cant you guys get suppressors?
>>29306265
[spoiler]shes underage :^[/spoiler]
>>29306303
neat
>>29306303
Original image was a year or so ago. Since been suppressed and optic upgraded.
>>29306316
Even better? Jk. Keep that to yourself.#notmypic
>>29306283
my mil-spec one doesn't, not even a tiny bit. in fact, the more reward pressure i apply the harder it is to release.
not a huge design flaw but it can lead to early wear as i have experienced.
oh, and i only cut it after it kept hitting me it the nose. before that, i never did a damn thing to it but use it.
here's hoping the geissele super ch doesn't have the same flaw.
2/4
>>29306001
>>29306097
Thats a quite amount of force should be working perfect now.
>>29306124
He tweak the angle to be more aggressive. For example lock back your pistol slide see the angle of engagement between slide and slide stop? If angle was in wrong direction or not aggressive enough.... It would fail or being too easily accidentally released by loading mag in too hard or brushing the slide release.
Dont call what you dont understand retarded.
Retarded.
>>29306227
Imma try it across three different upper. I have two raptor.
Im not taking video tho i will say approximately how much force it took for which upper.
Psa is most worn should be easier one.
>>29305932
What's the purpose of the Allen screws by the selector hole?
>>29306345
my waifu
>>29306347
>kept hitting me it the nose
mine did that too, then I cleaned it and it stopped.
300rnds feels gud. Gonna test in I 5.56 vs .223 later.
Three slash four
>>29306315
Yup sure can. Had a mini sorta can custom made. See the updated pic
>>29306364
>under over
>untied work boots with no wear on them
come on
>>29306364
Think I took pics from ya posts. Can you blame me?
>>29306406
Grills hardly ever ready to opr8
>>29306406
im not lookin at her boots ya faggit
Four slash four
>>29306429
Kek!
She's 8/10 to me. Good taate!
How you like face of tersea palmer? Taylor swift?
>>29306408
>Can you blame me?
nope
>>29306446
>tersea palmer
shes qt
>Taylor swift
to small, like a rat
>>29306247
Order submitted for ~20 days ago. I don't expect it to ship for another month and a half.
I should have bought a bunch back when they were on sale.
>>29306386
in I = IMI. Two leftmost boxes. Not expecting much.
>>29306227
I tried on my psa.
Holy shit easy to do. Im shocked. I couldnt do leverage method like you because of fixed rear sight but i tried twisting method and i applied like 5lb of force and it click open.
Trying my hdsi, bcm, and anderson now.
Just a sec.
>>29306495
the IMI ammo is supposed to be very accurate stuff.
>>29306468
>I don't expect it to ship for another month and a half.
fuck man
>>29306468
Pretty clean looking lower. What's the optic?
My new upper came in. Did I do good?
>>29306176
That's an 11 year old boy.
>>29306097
That is pretty sketch.
>>29306375
i cleaned it and it didn't stop.
hell, i took my ar to the range bone dry today, still did it.
might switch over to the bcm ch, i don't care about ambi but the extra gucci of the raptor isn't worth it to me.
sucks
>>29306514
TA33
>>29306510
I can get it around $8. I imagine the .223 beating the 5.56 for accuracy at 55 grain because of my 1/7 twist 16"+1.6" brake, but I could be wrong.
>>29306555
ever occur to you to contact Ranier about it? I mean you kinda fucked that up since you dremeled it like usual
could have been a spring, I was about to replace mine but the issue stopped
>>29306551
suck but maybe it can be the new meme
bcm gunfighter>raptor
>b-but much ass-tet-icks
>>29306551
cut his fucking hair
>>29306551
Still, though.
>>29306571
Think I want a ctr
>>29306555
Just now tried my HDSI, BCM, ANDERSON upper they just wont do it up to about 12 ft/lb but i see them teetering failire then i stopped because i dont want to mar the ch or upper in that specific idiotic spot to have mar.
So. HDSI,BCM, and ANDERSON which's in new condition wont do it but my worn abused psa did it and very easily like only 5 ft/lb maybe not that much of force it also had click feeling when it failed.
Interesting. Indeed. Im fairly sure bcm would do it and any ch would do it, the problem is the angle on the upper.
Im 99% sure its because of worn upper not the ch.
>>29306585
He can decide how long his own hair is.
Thanks though. The other one keeps it short.
>>29306571
Oh, is that one of those Stag Arms lowers that caused the company to go under after the ATF caught them holding a bunch without a SNs? :^)
>>29306581
i but spacers behind the spring before i did the webm, helped but didn't fix it.
i could've called ranier but then they might have given me a new one and i would have never have discovered this flaw
>inb4 not a flaw
besides, they can't fix the design, so fuck it.
>>29306616
>Im fairly sure bcm would do it and any ch would do it,
mil-spec style won't, it's because of the way the raptor pivots.
i bet the design of the raptor also accelerates wear on the upper, my war upper isn't even that old, i got it in november/december 2015
>>29306647
B-but... Raptors are so nice. I don't want to go back to being a filthy, milspec plebian.
Was with mah pupper.
>>29306647
Lettme try it with milspec.
OCPic. Open question What do you $hoot when you don't choot fmj?
>>29306663
me neither, maybe i'll pretend this never happened and just get a new one every time it wears out.
>>29306598
It's my favorite stock, I had three of them but I got rid of the other 2 because they murder my beard.
I left it on the 9mm because the CTR is the shortest stock that fits on a standard receiver extension, and fitting in a backpack is the goal. It's even shorter than the Ace Entry I used to have, only stronger, more comfortable, and adjustable to fit actual humans.
>>29306670
Yikes
>>29306677
i tried it and i was afraid of fucking something up, it took so much force.
>>29306678
otm
>>29306695
>i was afraid of fucking something up
like thats ever stopped you before.
have you cleaned your upper? I dunno what to tell you, mine was fixed by a simple cleaning of the charging handle and upper where it rests.
>>29306683
>>29306677
Just tried it with one of my relatively new Raptors, and it didn't budge at all. Also tried it with one of my well used milspec ones and it didn't budge at all.
I'll have to wait and see if the Raptor wears out over time.
>>29306621
absolutely disgusting
>>29306678
suber kewl!! i wanna play on a construction site!!11
>>29306695
Onthemove?
>>29306711
>like thats ever stopped you before.
well, i tried but it wouldn't budge at all, the screw driver was bending and i was marring the ch.
i cleaned the upper like new before i took it to the range, i did my best to have it as clean and dry as possible, not for the ch but because i was working on it at the range.
>>29306718
maybe my raptor is just too worn out, i do use it a lot.
>>29306740
Open Tip Match
>>29306720
>>29306750
:DDD
>>29306745
Otm gotcha
>>29306745
>, not for the ch
so you didnt clean the charging handle?
like I sprayed mine down with a bunch of nitro solvent to get everything out of there.
>>29306745
>maybe my raptor is just too worn out, i do use it a lot.
That's probably the case. My raptor is pretty new. I've only had it six months or so.
>>29306695
Wow. Surpising...
I only tried with anderson and psa.
on anderson it doesnt even move but on psa it move slightly. But milspec felt obviously more strong.
Raptor confirmed the problem.
Lets see somebody who has both raptor and bcm to test it.
ANNNYBOODY OUT THERE ANYBODY?
what rail should I get? Looking at the 15inch bcm (for an 18 or 20 inch barrel). Anything better for less?
>>29306770
i have a raptor
>>29306761
no, i cleaned the ch, i cleaned everything, even the lower, but i didn't do it to because of the ch.
>>29306770
Oh and i should say this.
My psa upper had milspec for like 85% of its life and most wear came from milspec not raptor.
>>29306783
but do you have a bcm
>>29306770
i think the main thing is the design and pivot points.
isn't the bcm just mil-spec but with a bigger latch?
>>29306770
The BCM will probably function exactly the same as the milspec one. The Raptor is an entirely different design from a standard charging handle. The BCM is basically just a milspec with a different latch.
WABATASHI!
KIMOHAIKA!
LEEEEMOOOOOO....
SASSSSHEEEEEEE!!!!!
>>29306783
>Lets see somebody who has both raptor and bcm to test it.
>both raptor AND bcm
Do you have bcm ch too?
>>29306795
>>29306806
oh i didnt finish reading
Should I buy AR6721 or Mini-14 Tactical
These are the only options because of reasons
>>29306806
I need a summary here. Not following. CH is causing bcg to hang on mag?
>>29306818
kek
>>29306833
colt
Does /arg/ have an opinion on the Parallax Tactical TiN BCG's?
Seems like a good deal, just the carrier can be had for 100, and it doesn't have that horrible cryptic logo.
Not polished up all Gucci though.
>>29305562
pant hard/10
>>29306860
i have one, no problems and looks bretty gud :DDD
>>29305579
I know how you feel. I would try a shorter hand guard
>>29306855
What do I do with it after I buy it.
After I get it I will have $1100 to spend on whatever.
I want Optic and Sling. But as you can see it doesnt come from factory with any good sling mounting options.
>>29306860
Cryptic doesn't polish their BCGs to be gucci. They don't polish them at all. That's just the super slick coating that they use.
>horrible crypitc logo
Wow, whatta' fag! He cares more about form over function!
Cryptic BCGs might look ridiculously gucci, but that's a result of their function of being slick as your mum on Mardi Gras.
>>29306694
What?
>>29306860
TiN is gucci too
>>29306516
Doesn't look bad. You might consider getting canted sights since your optic is blocking your current set up.
Hey, got a SFP optic as a gift. Manual says it's meant for a 100yd zero.
From my understanding, using this at a lower magnification on a target at the 25yd mark will still be on target, all be it at the usual -2" indicative of a 100yd zero.
Or am I totally wrong on this?
Anyone know how long it generally takes Cryptic to get more BCGs in stock? I need that mystic black.
>>29306818
Yeah its fine.
>>29306782
please guys, I need your wisdom. First build
>>29306951
Cryptic coatings have a tendency to fall apart after extensive use or high heat.
Literally crack and shatter apart.
It can destroy your gun.
>>29306961
Do what you want man.
>>29306902
http://firespeedtactical.com/overview-parallax-tacticals-new-titanium-nitride-hard-coated-nickel-boron-bcg/
>Parallax first has the nickel boron carrier polishers before getting it sent out to get coated with TiN
I like the Gucci shine, I don't like the logo.
Also a parallax TiN carrier + average bolt is significantly cheaper than a cryptic BCG.
>>29305998
Why the blue?
>>29306967
Yea, I'm gonna need a source on that.
>>29306967
>Cryptic coatings have a tendency to fall apart after extensive use or high heat
But that's not right at all.
>>29306961
not really for less. check out MI
>>29306980
He's full of shit, you won't get a source.
http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?7435-Cryptic-Coatings-BCG-10K-rounds-Review
At 10k rounds oiled, it still looks brand spankin' new with only the smallest amount of wear on contact points.
>pic related is a BCG after 10k rounds
>>29307012
>>29306980
>>29306983
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/03/18/cryptic-coatings-bcg-failures/
>>29306984
Why did you say yikes?
83 years left until suppressor approved. Slightly less time until form 1 is approved. Ugh, how to pass time?
Does anyone know if ar mags will fit in here
New pics!
>>29306969
it's not so much what I want, it's that I don't know what's good or better.
>>29306984
thanks for the input
>>29307021
1/10
No complaints at all, everything is smooth. I'm waiting a little bit to buy a cryptic black carrier, other than that I really just want a black ATPIAL-C
>>29307051
those optic wings>>29307070
>>29307021
>>29307048
If it fits AK mags, it will hold MORE ar mags...
AK mags are longer and curved.
>>29307062
KAC from ebay too
>>29306834
Oh no completely separate issue from that another anon which have high spot in his PTAC upper arresting the bcg movement.
GOM's raptor ch would BOP him in nose mid shooting because his worn upper ch locking hole is allowing raptor to get unlocked by itself and bop'ing GOM in nose.
Gom at first uncertain if issue is with the ch or upper. GOM went at raptor latch with dremel altering the angle to be more aggressive on locking. GOM then post video of him performing demonstration and test which is prying raptor open with screwdriver stick between center of raptor and upper after locking latch altering job with dremel the video appear him applying about 10 ft/lb of force to make raptor fail and unlock without the handle being touched.
In attempt aid GOM and myself to reach decision whenever it is upper or raptor's fault. i then perform same test with two of my raptor across 3-4 different upper which include HDSI, BCM, PSA, and ANDERSON. PSA the most worn upper in my possession failed easily with only maybe 5 ft/lb forced applied with click feeling to it and certainly sound too meanwhile bcm,hdsi, and anderson which all are in new condition hold until i reach about 12ft/lb threshold which i set to reduce risk of marring or damaging either the ch or my upper. I then performed same test with milspec and milspec performed head and shoulder better than raptor in this specific test.
Thats basically... it.
>>29307070
thank him 4 his servix
working on my first build. When do I get my trip?
>>29305678
Paint it to match pupper
>cute pupper=cute raifu
You have a 2-tone doge, shouldn't be that hard.
>>29307079
Yeah they're coming off, they really serve no purpose.
>>29307128
when you pay the $20 free and submit your essay on why you deserve to be a trip.
>>29307102
Got it
>>29307131
kek
>>29307163
I'm still waiting on mine to get approved. Should be good to go in the next month or so.
>>29307163
>essay
>>29307195
I hate sloths
>>29307021
You got me.
You got me good!
8/8 fell for it face first.
Alright /k/unts,
Buying this tomorrow. Aero M4E1 set with 12" rail.
Want to build a pistol. Want it to be FULL gucci. Help me pick parts.
>caliber and barrel suggestions (already have 3 5.56 rifles and a .300blk rifle)
>front sight (will be buying a stolen valor rear)
>should I swap my CompM2 from my carbine to it or buy a new optic?
>muzzle device (1.8" ID will fit KAK flash can/Flaming Pig/future suppressor)
>will be getting KAK brace, should I get a snowflake buffer tube or standard milspec?
All input will be appreciated.
>>29307249
>Aero precision
>gucci
Uuuuuh i disagree personally AP is mid level to me. Although their quality is as good as gucci.
But gucci depend on price. Ap price doesnt call for gucci status imo.
(folks reply 1+ to this if you agree)
I'm about to try to drill my own FSB/taper pin holes next week, wish me luck
>>29307271
+1 famila
>>29307270
>>29307271
I'd agree if it were a basic bitch milspec set but it's not.
>burnt bronze
>billet
>integrated barrel nut
>good reputation
>>29307270
Filename should be 300 win mag
>>29307271
My stripped Aero Precision COP M4 upper cost $400.
Is that expensive enough to be considered Gucci?
![WP_20160226_001[4].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IODHPvZ.jpg "WP_20160226_001[4].jpg")
Haven't shot in two weeks...I should fix that.
>>29307344
>My stripped Aero Precision COP M4 upper cost $400.
>Is that expensive enough to be considered Gucci?
Damn, actually it cost $570 but I got it on sale for $500. I was looking at the minimalist kit cost.
>>29307270
Look at those cold dead eyes just staring into your soul
>>29307344
Close ups of upper?
>>29307348
u got other problems that need fixn faggit
>>29307344
>Spending 400 dollars on a lower ever
>>29307363
How close we talkin'?
![WP_20160203_003[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/em82M2N.jpg "WP_20160203_003[1].jpg")
>>29307368
You're right.
I need new batteries for my Surefire, too. :^
>>29307249
Oh, I should also specify.
>will be getting a Cryptic
What color? I like the look of the bronze the best but wonder if it would blend in a little too well.
>>29307371
>My stripped Aero Precision COP M4 upper cost ($500)
>My stripped Aero Precision COP M4 upper
>Aero Precision COP M4 upper
>COP M4 upper
>M4 upper
>upper
Re-read that sentence.
Muzzle devices thoughts, opinions, advice.
I'm still rocking A2 bird cage. I don't really know a reason to switch. Most of what I have seen just talks about the benefits in terms of recoil and concussion. Lowered recoil would be nice but correct me if I'm wrong won't that significantly reduce muzzle velocity and all the benefits there in?
TL;DR good reason to ditch A2 birdcage?
>>29307379
Those angles on the forward assist are rad
>>29307344
>>29307353
>$400 for stripped upper
Oh my bad. i take that back.
I had price of milspec upper in mind and assumed cop upper couldnt cost much more. I had price tag of ~$150-200 in mind.
>>29307401
Buy something
>>29307406
I do like it. Considering getting a C4 (carbine length) as well. My LGS has a minimalist kit C4 upper sitting on the shelf for $400.
>>29307417
Yeah, and they actually retail for around $570. I got mine on Black Friday for $500. They're actually forged, not milled, so they cost a pretty penny to cover the forging molds. At least, that's what I assume.
I'm not the anon who is doing the other Aero build, by the way. I think his upper cost around $150 and their billet lowers go for ~$200.
>>29307401
Nope MV stay same really. No compelling reason to drop a2 but if you want superior flash suppessing performance or recoil reduce or muzzle jump reduce.
>>29307398
Me stupid
>>29307401
>reduce muzzle velocity
Most brakes marginally increase MV actually.
A brake or compensator reduces muzzle climb and felt recoil at the tradeoff of extra concussion to the shooter and generally more muzzle flash than a flash hider (duh).
A flash hider either has no or very marginal benefits as far as recoil and muzzle climb reduction but hides the flash very well. The best designs (multi-prong) tend to have a ringing noise to them that some shooters find annoying, but personally I put it in the same category as buffer spring noise.
There are hybrids, usually labelled as compensators, that do both somewhat.
So. Reasons to ditch A2:
>better flash hider
There are significantly better MD's at hiding flash than the A2, though most are the prong style that do literally nothing for recoil or muzzle rise.
>Significantly more recoil/climb reduction
A gill brake, of which there are many, would provide the best recoil reduction at the cost of being extraordinarily annoying to people around you. This may be a plus to some.
>little bit of both
If you want a hybrid, the PWS FSC does both decently well. It's probably the best balanced. Muzzle flash is really only an issue for people with current-gen (gen3+) NODs, and muzzle climb reduction is decent.
>>29307452
We all have those moments. I just do it anonymously so I don't have to live up to it later down the line.
>>29307448
I'm getting it well below retail, but if it's parted out...
>handguard
$175
>upper
$150
>lower
$165
>total
$490
I'm paying $360 for everything
Guess who's back.
>>29307448
Wait a sec.
Your upper include handguard. I could say that the value us split between the handguard part and the upper itself.
So like $250 for upper and $250 for handguard.
But if stripped upper itself with no fixed handguard section is sold for $570 i will be damned.
Oh and stripped upper isnt stripped if it include fa and dust cover.
>>29307489
cg has been back for awhile u faggat
>>29307480
Wow nice! Thats some major saving.
>>29307495
Yeah, it includes the handguard.
It would also be closer to $285 for the upper and $285 for the rail. Considering a 15" Geissele Mk8 rail retails for $275, that's still pretty damn Gucci for the rail segment, not to mention the upper itself.
>Oh and stripped upper isnt stripped if it include fa and dust cover.
Ya' got me. Actually, calling it stripped was my mistake and I realized it after I posted. Take $15 off the price for the dust cover and FA.
>>29307489
not sexy, that for sure.
Finally ordered a Raptor charging handle on sale for like $69 before S&H. So now I have a brand new in package BCM gunfighter I need to sell, in addition to my 300blk upper, AK, and ACOG.
Cant wait to get my settlement check next week so I can start ordering items for my new 300blk upper build.
Also got a vise in my garage now so I can do any and all modifications to my ARs in house. Its been a good week.
>>29307457
quality post
>>29307544
>Finally ordered a Raptor charging
oh my, should have read this thread first.
how much for the bcm and which mod?
>>29307538
I actually heard that song on the radio the other day, luckily I went to a concert for The Who later than evening and drowned JT out of my ears.
>>29307544
specs/pics of the upper?
nice get
>>29307546
Danke :^)
>>29307544
What barrel on the .300blk upper?
>>29307537
Agreed.
that certainly well beyond gucci qualified
>>29307544
Dont sell you bcm ch.
Read the thread .
Do the test.
How often will I need to lube a phosphate PSA bolt carrier?
>>29307601
Every time you clean it.
>>29305313
Leave in a few mins /arg/.
See you tomorrow if a samsquatch doesn't eat me. <3
>>29307604
How many rounds though?
>>29307601
Every 15 rounds or so.
>>29307611
good luck, have fun, be safe, and remember, i love you xoxo
>>29307550
Mod 4? Medium latch.Price, iunno, make an offer.
>>29307568
10.5" barrel, hardened chrome moly barrel, whatever brand that MAS Defense gets their barrels from.
>>29307613
Depends on the ammo. I can go a good 900+ with my handloads before I'm actually getting a noticeable amount of shit caked on the bolt but with Tula I'm lucky to get 250 before it's plowing shit.
>>29307629
Might b interested in teh upper. Whats the specs on the rest of it?
How is everyone?
Whats a good entry level brand for complete uppers? <1200
>>29307655
BCM
what would you guys say is the best or tied for the best AR in the world? I would say it's tied between the M16 line and the AK line. The M16 for its weight, accuracy, and range as well as its superb modding capability and the AK line for its durability, ease of production, and reliability.
>>29307624
Love you too
>>29307655
>not spending 1200+ on an upper
>>29307611
give him jerky and he will leave ya alone
>>29307601
What lube you have? It really depend if you never take your bcg out and handle it or does it everytime you see you gun.
And depend if you have say shitty rem oil or nice n thick lube like mpro7.
Grease's great.
If you never take bcg out grease will last 2k easy and mpro maybe 1k.
>>29307671
Looking for an upper too. Just started at a higher paying job. I'm thinking of ordering a KAC upper
>>29307686
build it
>>29307588
>>29307550
Read the thread. Dont quite understand the problem nor am I too worried. And I still have two BCMs even if I sell the brand new in package BCM.
>>29307641
Standard upper receiver, has a syrac ordnance adjustable gas block, have both a Midwest Industries free float quad rail or a Troy Alpha rail, pick which one you like most and I can send it with the one ya like. Muzzle device is a YHM QD flash hider. Thats what Im selling for 350.
For 450 Ill include a nickel boron coated BCG and a milspec charging handle with a big latch. Heres a pic, with wrong muzzle device mind you.
Also could lower the price if you give me some time to get new roll pins and I replace the adjustable gas block with a standard gas block.
