Any marine pilots lurking?
Would enlisting after getting my degree and then doing the enlisted commissioning program give me a better or equal opportunity to become a pilot compared to OCS?

>>28520236
went to meps in September, finally into the 3 month period before I leave to basic. any other anons going to Navy basic in April? (BU if anyones wondering my rate)

nice to hear from my recruiter that ill be getting my E-3 pay as soon as I start basic as well

>>28520236
>bitch about AF recruiters

fucking kek, that's all i ever do in these threads

Question for the dude from the previous thread that got DQ'ed from meps for a shy bladder. Couldn't you have prevented that DQ by simply drinking a shitload of water before providing the urine sample?

Question 2: From what I understand after arriving at marine boot camp every recruit has to call home and tell his parents that he/she arrived safely. Is that call optional? My parents live in Switzerland and don't understand English.

>>28521470
So tell the DI

>>28521470
call you someone else, who cares. call your boyfriend
>>28521389
its a psychological problem, not a bladder problem

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American here. Spent 5 years in the Air National Guard. I have one year left, and I plan on trying to go active duty, which from the looks of things is going to be easier said than done. I've heard talk though that Australia recruits a lot of Americans into their military. Is this true? Someone care to red pill me?

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One week till lackland.
We lads 4 months of DEP just flew by.

>>28520360
Get your degree, then make E-5 and then become a Warrant officer. No one fucks with warrant officers.

>>28522698
No one fucks warrant officers because none exist.
or so i've been told

I want to apologize first about using a trip, but I've started to think about joining the military as an option immediately after my under grad.

Specifically I want to join the Air Force because I have a lot of family history there. My grandfather was a Lt. Colonel back during the Vietnam Era. I'll have a college degree with good enough grades, I've also lost a shit ton of weight over the course of four years and I'm definitely physically capable. I'd like to join, do my time, then go to grad school.

Question is, how would I go about talking to a recruiter, asking the right questions, and trying to go about this after college.

I should also note that Im a tranny and I'm probably fulfilling some negative stereotype of the air force but I think it is something I'd like to do.

Started my packet with Army. They're kinda pushing infantry as my mos. Not against it but I'd like to see what else there is to offer so i can use what i learned in a post-military career. Any help would be great.

>>28523011
Once you take the ASVAB you should get a list of jobs available to you.
>11Brooms
>peacetime
Pick something else

I was gonna join the marines but then I found out they sell those MRE jalapeño cheese packets at my local winco

>>28523011
>They're kinda pushing infantry as my mos.

Sorry about your brain damage, anon.

Yo who's at the clock tower right now waiting for the bus? Holla

>>28522829
So you chopped your cock and balls off and shoot yourself full of drugs and hormones on a regular basis. Yeah, you absolutely should be trusted with firearms and heavy equipment.

>>28522829
>I'm a tranny
Dairy Queened

>>28522735
That's because you either don't rate or work at a place that needs the fine skills of warrant officers. At 2D Recon we had a like 3 or 4 in charge of training or were pilots working with J-tacs.

>>28523056
But I have a firearm already.

>>28523038
Is this a marine meme?
Watching Generation Kill I'd always chuckle at "Jahlahpehno and cheese".
But then again I'm autistic

Wow the odds of getting a cool bird to fly in the Marines are better than I could have hoped for.
Literally the only thing that I don't want to fly is a Prowler, everything else is fucking awesome.

To that guy in the previous thread asking why people shit on those who want to go SF:

You say shit like "how do you know they won't make it" and "it may just happen". You may just be the next bill gates, you may win the lottery but that doesn't mean it's probable.

Every fucking kid thinks they're going to be special super duper operator but they haven't spent a day in the military, they don't understand the lifestyle or the hardships, they just want to do cool guy stuff. There's nothing wrong with aspirations but special operations is years down the line and you haven't even started the first step yet, all while thinking you're better than every ordinary soldier.

If you're not getting a college degree, starting a career, leading a sports team and exercising up until about 24 you're probably not going to get direct entry. If you're planning on joining infantry thinking you're going to excel and just sweep on into special operations, everyone hates you. The officers have seen enough of your shit, they know you're just killing time until you move on to cool guy shit and that's not what they want, they want people dedicated to their current job.

Forget about special forces now, go and join the military in the job you want and focus on being the best at it. After 4 years then start thinking if you want to move on to something else

>>28522829
Hahahhahahhaha

Hahhaha

>>28523176
There's a reason Terminal Lance made a comic about them anon

I've had an on and off fling with a high end escort for about a year now. Will that matter for getting clearances?

do you have to shower with other men?

>>28523555
just dont put her down as a reference

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>>28523571

>>28523342
>Forget about special forces now, go and join the military in the job you want and focus on being the best at it. After 4 years then start thinking if you want to move on to something else


You heard it here first ladies and gentlemen, if you want to go SOF just focus on not being SOF. Ignoring your dreams for years will help you achieve them.

>>28518803
>From the last thread

I ended up adding 100 bodyweight squats and 50 lunges to my running days, I know it's a bitch workout but I'm just starting out.

>Couch to 5k
>Walk 3 miles home from work
>50 squats
>50 lunges
>50 squats

Sore as hell this morning but it feels good, ate some oatmeal with frozen berries and peanut butter and I'm good to go.

>>28523785
>Couch to 5k
What?

>Walk 3
Just run one of those miles. Either the first, or second one.

>Squats
>Lunges
Change those to pushups and crunches.

>>28523730
That's right

There's a difference between keeping in mind an aspiration in the future and going infantry, hating it all for 4 years, thinking how things will be super cool when you advance, then realizing special operations is even worse

If you never learn to love the job you're in you'll be yet another drop out

Feel free to go and tell your recruiter all about your plan to go SOF, then get a couple medal of honours, leave and then retire on the money your PMC company is making. Remind the instructors how pathetic they are for not being as superior as you'll soon be before even leaving for boot camp.

Get back to me when you kill Osama 2.0, hero

>>28523881
I'm pretty sure he's doing running on days between resistance training

>>28523881
Couch to 5k is a running program, google is your friend

>Just run
Yeah, I'm walking home from work in sub freezing temperatures in a parka and uniform (in boots) on ice, with my lunch pail. No.

>Pushups
I alternate core and upper body on my non cardio days.

Started jogging a few weeks ago to begin getting fit enough to join the military. I don't know how I never noticed it before, but I was looking in a full-body mirror a couple days ago and I realized for the first time in my life that I'm slightly knock-kneed. So far at least, I haven't been able to tell that there's any negative effect on my ability to run because of this.

Assuming I can run just fine, is this likely something that would be cause for a DQ? One thing I've considered is that it might be difficult for me to stand at attention, especially for long periods of time.

>>28524008
>we should have all our potential SOF personnel sit around in big Army getting beat down by raw stupidity and institution
>18x and options contracts are for COD kids

>>28523785
Do bulgarian split squats/shrimps/pistol squats instead of regular squats. Keep the lunges.

>>28525066
To clarify, doing one of those 3 I named will allow you to build leg strength with bodyweight exercises by increasing the resistance a lot. Pretty much nobody can build strength with regular squats without weights, because doing 100 bodyweight squats is an endurance exercise, and won't make your legs much stronger.

>>28521738
No, we dont unless you have citizenship here.

>>28525066
>>28525106
At the moment I have trouble with pistol squats, I'm only doing bodyweight to work up to them.
And endurance isn't a bad thing for me right now.

Thanks for the advice though, replacing normal squats with pistols or shrimps is a goal now.

>>28521738
>red pill me

Ugh.

>>28523011
Yeah well what do you want to do? The Army is a big place, you can do just about anything.

Army finally called me asking to speak with me about recruitment
should I go?

i want to be a SEAL. i need to be a SEAL.

>>28525457
No you don't, see >>28524008

>>28525488
i do not understand.

my desire is to be a SEAL.

>>28525527
100 mg spironolactone and 4 mg estradiol DAILY

that's all it takes, you can be a seal in 3 months, no prob

>>28525527
No, you don't know what you want. Go swab decks for a few years so you get a feel for the Navy then try out for SEALs

>>28525599
the SEALs are not about cleaning though.
i have no intentions except to be the best i can be.
i know all about it, and i plan to do the SEAL challenge at enlistment in two years. i have two years to get ready.

Just watched Hurt Locker.
That scene at the end with his son hit me really hard for some reason, and I'm still just 18.
I guess I'm afraid of losing my passion, my sunshine and glitter perspective that is being a civilian.

>>28523342
>Forget about special forces now, go and join the military in the job you want and focus on being the best at it. After 4 years then start thinking if you want to move on to something else

do you fucking realise that that is the attitude of the loser?

i know a bunch of guys that went operator. you know what they had in common? they wanted to be it, they said they wanted to be it and they went for it. and they got it.

the 'winning attitude' isn't a fucking meme, m8. it's what you actually need to get anything real done, including becoming an operator. sitting on your ass all day going 'oh i don't know if i can do this i'll just do something else instead for a while to help make up my mind' is exactly how you get fucking. no. where.

the long safe path is the path to hell.

>>28524008
special operations is a world of difference from big army.

>>28524790
look another cod kiddy

i'm sick of your shit

so ok bitches, here is the real dope

you want to be delta, first you have to join up with an ivy league phd and minimum 10 gpa

then you have to pass the physical. if you're not 6'5 and at least 300lbs with a professional nfl career behind you, forget it manlet, you're not getting in.

then THEY approach YOU. you got to their top secret facility in DC where you undergo the what they call HELL WEEK. during HELL WEEK they test you in the most simple and most brutal method ever. for 24 hours a day, every day, for a week, they punch you in the nuts. that's right faggots, they punch you RIGHT IN THE FUCKING NUTS, all day, every day, all week. that's why they call it HELL WEEK.

you think that's the end? think again motherfuckers. after that, you have to kill your mom. and your dog. don't have a mom or a dog? you're not getting in, you fucking commie.

then it's a ten year MINIMUM probationary period, during which you're in federal prison. can't handle that? you don't have what it takes to be in delta you pussy.

if you survive federal prison and get a presidential pardon, then and ONLY THEN, you can put in a packet. but if you're over 40 and under 80 then go to hell you bitch, you don't have the experience to be CAG.

you think you got what it takes? forget it, you're not going to make it.

>>28525690
And for every person that really wanted it only about 50% of them wanted it by the time paperwork was all filled out

And then minority of those who really really wanted it will make it through selection

And then a minority of that minority still want it after 2 years of the same shit every day

>>28525457
talk to a recruiter.

download teh nsw program for potential seal candidates. it's designed for people like you, ie for people who want to be seals.

work your fucking ass off. get through the program.

become seal.

becoming seal not guaranteed, but you won't know if you don't try.

Do people think special forces are some kind of demigod thwacking club or something? Jesus christ

>>28525599
You fucking moron. NSW has nothing to do with being a bitch rate.

The only people in SOF are those that want to be there, and had the motivation to get there.

What happened, too much of a pussy to put in a packet? Need to bring everyone else down to your faggot level? You're in every thread, time you fucked off.

I guess I've triggered the 40 minute mile crowd by not saying "follow your dreams" "b urself" "soon ull be Jason bourne"

>>28525734
holy shit you're a faggot. the only way western sof even has personel is because people applied to get in. it's not a fucking conscript system.

yeah, it's fucking hard. yeah, people fail the fuck out. that's the fucking point of the selection process. but if people don't try people don't get in. and we know it's not impossible because...there are people in sof right now. where the fuck is your head?

something being hard is no reason to give up or not try it.

what kind of fucking pussy are you?

>>28525788
No you're clearly just a person with an obvious problem.
Who comes to a 4chan thread every day to tell people they can't do something?
Pretty sad. Imagine what a DI would say about that.

>>28525734
>And then a minority of that minority still want it after 2 years of the same shit every day

Most guys that get into that sort of unit stay in that sort of unit for a while. Usually the rest of their careers if able. Big army is what generally destroys souls.

Operator fuck your mother or something?

>>28525821
I'm just sharing the opinions of anybody in the military who isn't a wannabe SOF faggots

>>28525802
And you'll probably fail. You fucking regards can't even understand the probability

You're probably going to fail. Fact.


I'll change from now on though. I'll be really supportive

Hey guys who want to join sof. It's not really hard, just be yourself

>>28525821
DI would fucking destroy him.

>>28525788
>I guess I've triggered the 40 minute mile crowd by not saying "follow your dreams" "b urself" "soon ull be Jason bourne"

Touchy feely liberal bullshit aside, you don't seem to realise that that is actually the only way that people get anywhere, reach their goals or better themselves. They don't do that by standing around waiting for shit to come to them. This shit doesn't fall from the sky. No one is going to give it to you. That doesn't mean it won't be hard. But your attitude is the attitude of failure. And it's that simple.

How do I confirm that a person I know is full of shit? A friend of a friend recently came home from the army, and in the last three weeks he has said a few things that are questionable at best.
>Infantry in the 82nd
I believe you
>Made Seargent in two years
Sounds hard but doable
>Went to RASP
I'm pretty sure that's wrong
>Went to SERE
Sounds fishy but okay
>You learn everything SERE has to offer in one week. The next three weeks is just sitting in a dog cage and getting the shit beat out of you.
Fucking what

>>28525864
Don't even bother changing, just don't post here. Your callsign: NOT WANTED

>>28525821
He's just being realistic by not coddling some 18 year old straight outta highschool faggot who thinks he's the next chris kyle.

your hugbox "be kind to everyone" mentality is not helping these kids in the long run.

>>28525868
Do you know what DI hates more than anything?

The guy in boot camp thinking he's just going to breeze through basic then into SOF

This is reality. If you ever let your intentions out you will be shit on because you're a faggot. This is fucking reality.

How old are you?

>>28525864
>I'm just sharing the opinions of anybody in the military who isn't a wannabe SOF faggots

someone in the military who cleans toilets i'd hazard. bitter fucking moron without the balls to do anything.

actually, i just re-read that. you never said you were in the military yourself, did you? because unless you are you shouldn't try adopt that point of view.

>>28525864
>And you'll probably fail. You fucking regards can't even understand the probability

i'm assuming you mean retard, retard.

everyone understands the probablility. both the guys that get in, and the guys that fail. the guys that get in don't let the probability stop them from succeeding, and the guys that fail don't let the probablility stop them from trying. because that's still no reason not to go for it. unless you're a loser. like you.

>>28525892
It's not a hugbox. No one here is saying that it's fucking easy.
He just can't seem to tell the difference between extremely difficult and futile.

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SQUARE YOUR TOUCHY FEELSY SHIT /MEG/ OR I WILL SKULLFUCK YOU UNTIL YOU CANT EVEN THINK OF THE WORD "SEAL".

NOW ON YOUR FACE AND GIVE ME 50 SCUMBAGS

>>28525864
>Hey guys who want to join sof. It's not really hard, just be yourself

What kind of strawmen bullshit is this.

Hey faggot, no one here is telling them that it will be easy. On the fucking contrary you little homo. What we're not telling them is to be a pussy and not even try. Because only scared little pussys don't make at least some attempt to follow their life's dreams. Failure is part of life. Without it there can be no success. Grow the fuck up and deal with the concept.

That other guy is right. You are NOT WANTED.

>>28525932
>b-but I'm going to be an super cool operator!

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>>28525864

>>28525900
>Big army are buttflustered as FUCK by SOF because they don't play by 'the rules' and don't follow 'the standard' which totally must be followed for the universe to continue spinning
>If you even allude to being part of that non conformist group of Elvises with mustache hairs beyond they mouth parts you get shit on
>Because misery loves company, and big army is a bunch of miserable burned out fucks. If you don't know their pain you are wrong

>>28525949
Hey man, stay with it, you can accomplish anything you put your mind to

You're beautiful

>>28525900
Nah, they just beast that guy. Make his life hell.

The people they hate the most are the 'too hard, don't try' people. People like you.

>This is reality. If you ever let your intentions out you will be shit on because you're a faggot. This is fucking reality.

If you go 18x everyone fucking knows what your intentions are anyway. What kind of idiot are you?

>How old are you?

Older than you. Don't think that trying to claim some sort of world-wise maturity covers the fact that you're a sad, beaten negative little bitch trying to bring everyone else down to your level of mediocrity.

You're NOT WANTED.

Actually, isn't that what your parents told you?

>>28525864
>I'm just sharing the opinions of anybody in the military who isn't a wannabe SOF faggots

Exactly like >>28525968

>>28526022
Hey man, you're great, believe in yourself and you can do anything

You'll never be the guy with the stress fracture, they don't exist, just be yourself

>>28525951
ARE YOU TRYING TO FUCK ME, SON?

ZIP YOUR CUM RECEPTACLE AND GIVE ME 100 PUSH UPS, YOU SACK OF USELESS MEAT

Is this US only? if so most of this post is gonna be a load of shite.

I'm from the UK looking to enlist as an officer and then move onto a Challenger 2 Tank Commander in the Royal tank regiment.

Is there any Army officers lurking on here at 2-3am in the morning? Hows sandhurst? Or if there is somehow any RTR Tank commanders alive on this thread how was training?

Also are there any US tankers lurking here? How was your training? I'm curious. Because I heard to become a commander over here you are fast tracked to the seat as an officer doing 3 weeks driving and maintenance -> 3 weeks gunnery and then 2 weeks loading and how ever long it takes for you to complete the commanders course.

>>28526022
To be fair at first he was just saying you should go in as a real MOS then try out for selection.

>this little pussyboi (probably an SFAS/RASP washout) who is in almost every thread going "NUH UH GUYS IT'S NOT EVEN WORTH TRYING, IT'S JUST TOO HARD YOU GUYS"

You little pathetic bitch. I'd love to introduce you to my buddy who went in as an 18X and is currently in Group. Watching him choke your whiny quitter ass the FUCK out would be HILARIOUS.

>>28526062
You suck at DI speak. Get a job shitbag.

>>28526095
I'll introduce you to about 100 others for every successful applicant who resemble you in the future, those that didn't kill themselves anyway

>>28525973
Fucking hell, this strawman again.

Stop pretending that that is what anyone has said.

Point out to me right the fuck now, where anyone said that it would be easy. Stop trying to portray anyone giving advice as liberal hugbox faggots.

The difficulty is not the issue. Your total lack of balls and the desire to destroy others who are, unlike yourself, at least willing to try, is the issue.

There are entire websites by operators for people who want to become operators. NSW even worked up an entire 6 month program for civillians to get fit for BUD/S. Why? Because they want people to become operators, because they always need operators and the only people who get through are those who are personally motivated themselves to just do it. So any civillian prepared to do that program has at least half of what it takes.

Think you wait aroung for a permission slip from your mommy?

Not even the guys that make it know that they're going to make it before the end of the course. That doesn't stop them. It stops you.

>>28526138
>only 1/100 make operator
god you're a retard

>>28526044
Holy shit. What is this?

>It's hard, you might get hurt, don't try

This is why you fail.

>>28526103
fucking do, dont i?

>>28526095
why didnt you go 18x?

>>28523730
Go kill yourself you little faggot. You're just like the niggers from the projects who think they'll be the next rapper or basketball player and make a million dollars. You're just like some jackass who want to go from the academy straight to four-star general.

>>28526075
I'd suggest going over to ARRSE.com. Read before you post though.

>>28526075
>Is this US only?
nah, im Australian and i lurk this shit regularly.

>>28526089
He was never saying this. He shits up everythread. What he says is you won't make it, do something else to realise you won't make it.

He really sounds like a sad, hopeless cunt desu senpai. Misery loves company, and he's a lonely man.

>>28526162
>equating operator with four star general
Again, you're a mouth breathing retard

>>28526138
>I'll introduce you to about 100 others for every successful applicant who resemble you in the future,

you don't know anyone in the military.

>those that didn't kill themselves anyway

this is not, and never has been, reflective of the reality.

you quite obviously have pyschological problems. This is why you are Not Wanted.

>>28526197
>he does this every thread
>literally first time
How does it feel to be a retard?

Maybe multiple people realize that the best route to SF isn't jumping off your mommy's couch from cod and into the action

>>28526221
Be yourself

>>28526250
Well we're going to most likely fight ISIS for real within the next four years so I mean if that sounds good to you then sign up

>Hang out at recruiters office while friend is enlisting
>Ask out of curiosity about 18x and option 40 contracts
>Turns out they're pretty much always available, but virtually nobody goes in on one because they aren't what they're looking for
>Last guy to start processing in on one was an ex-marine who backed out and decided to re-enlist as a marine
>Come to /k/
>All anyone wants to do is oper8
>People bitching about all the people wanting to oper8

Guys. I don't think we're an accurate sample of the general population.

>>28524313
Not a cause for DQ unless it would prevent you from performing the underpants duck walk at MEPS.
>One thing I've considered is that it might be difficult for me to stand at attention, especially for long periods of time.
lol, you better toughen up on that, faggot, because you'll be spending hours at a time in the position of attention.

>>28526246
>How does it feel to be a retard?

This is not the first time. Stop pretending now the heat is on and we're all sick of you. Christ, you're not just a bitch, you're a coward too.

>Be yourself

If yourself is awesome, then fuck yeah, be yourself.

If yourself is not awesome, the do the NSW 6 month program, pass BUD/S and become awesome. Your choice.

Winners realise they have one. Losers are like you.

Again, NOT WANTED, drop the strawman bullshit.

>>28524313
If you actually are it's generally caused by a muscular imbalance between the muscles of your thighs. If it's not pronounced then just keep training and it will probably resolve itself.

>>28526302
>maybe if I keep repeating stuff I read overlayed on a picture of Arnold I'll convince myself I'm a super motivated cool operator

>>28526340
>maybe if I cut my wrists I'll feel better and stop being an edgy faggot

>>28526267
wow really? i thought most millenials were libertarian pro gun, anti immigration, white operators.
this is shocking

>>28520236
WE SHOULD CHANGE /meg/ TO "HURR HOW DO I SPESHUL FORCES" GENERAL

JESUS CHRIST THESE THREADS ARE EXCLUSIVELY 18X/RASP SHIT EVERYDAY

CULL THESE THREADS ALREADY FUCK

>>28526383

Hey now, I'm shooting for 13dxb.

>>28526302
>the do the NSW 6 month program
What if I'm so not awesome that I'm kicking my own ass trying to get fit enough to be able to do those routines? Because whenever I read those 'get ready for SOF' I go "Fuck me, I can't even do that many reps of that exercise" then I add it to the list of shit I need to work on.

Also, does anybody else notice how pissed off everyone gets around you when you put bettering yourself before other stuff?

>Couch to 5k (beginners running for fat people) week 5
>Gotta go to the park NOW if I'm gonna run and not be late for work
>Mom calls me
>"You need to come help me with moving stuff"
>I can't, I'm going running then I have work
>"So just don't run, this is more important" (it's not, it's something she can do later/tomorrow)
>Explain I'm trying to stick to a workout schedule, it's important I don't skip days
>Basically get told it's useless and I'm being a selfish asshole, why work out, just do shit for her instead, stop trying if it's not going to produce instant dramatic results, I'll hurt myself more running than being fat, etc...
>Ran anyway, was late to work because of argument

>>28526401
Fair enough, thank you for actually posting about something we haven't heard 100000000000000000000x times

>been gone for half a year
>the thread is even shittier now

Anyone wondering about air force and specifically aircrew?

Also who is here from last August still?

>>28526410
Lol your mom sounds jealous of your conviction/determination. Don't let her manipulate you. Keep up good work anon

>>28526432
To be fair a few threads ago it was mostly talking about linguist and intel jobs, some armor guys, bagging on infantry, etc...

The SOF train just started two threads ago.

>>28526472
Ughh

Where's 29n?

>tfw I chose minot nd as my duty station to watch my daughter grow uo

>>28526470
Not jealous, she just was really into fitness when she was my age, then she got old and fat. She thinks it's a waste of time.

She also lost-her-shit when I tried to get my sister on a diet. Telling me I'm trying to starve her and make her feel bad about herself.
>Kid is 16 and 250 pounds, she could stand to starve a little.

>>28526410
>What if I'm so not awesome that I'm kicking my own ass trying to get fit enough to be able to do those routines?

The NSW routine scales to your current level of fitness. NSW aren't stupid and know you have to start from somewhere, unlike NOT WANTED. So you basically do a fitness test and then slot in at the appropriate level. It's actually a good program but you only get one day off a week so don't go too hard too fast, otherwise you're fucked by week three.

>Also, does anybody else notice how pissed off everyone gets around you when you put bettering yourself before other stuff?

Unfortunately yes, and this is part of the human condition and often discussed by motivational speakers. People who don't come from success often have a hard time reconciling success with their past. Basically, you're leaving the herd and they don't won't to lose you. You have to be firm. Hopefully you can help lift the others up but truth be known, it's as likely they'll pull you down. Life is hard. Do it anyway.

>>28526417
We've had whole threads on intelligence and other trades. There were ones that were all Navy and Air Force. We're just going through an operator phase at the moment.

>>28526533
>The NSW routine scales to your current level of fitness. NSW aren't stupid and know you have to start from somewhere
I'll look into that one. First I'm going to do a couple months of what I'm doing now, just to get into the groove. I've figured a 12 month progression is what I'll do. Couple months attaining a basic level of fitness, then getting into one of the 'operator' prep workout programs.

>Basically, you're leaving the herd and they don't won't to lose you.
This is exactly what it feels like. Glad it's a normal thing, makes me feel like less of an ass for putting myself first.

>>28526383
I'm going elec warfare operator

Speshul forces interested me when I was younger and may be a possibility in the future but right now I'm focusing on becoming an EWO

I'm also the guy who's somehow making people really mad by telling them the same advice given to me. Seriously, I think many of us were in the same position when we were younger, wanting to join the military to be the shooty guy and be elite. It's just silly for the most part and most people haven't truly thought it over

Also just saying generally no matter how physically fit you are after you get past the initial physical fitness screening, a lot of peeps drop out and go security forces

My job (pretty much a gunner/flight engi combined) is more exclusive than special forces. Only 280ish of us

>>28526596
Sounds like a solid plan. The thing to remember with fitness is that volume is the deciding factor and the only way you can get enough volume is with consistancy. To start with this means consistantly doing small workouts. Binge and purge does not work, nor does over-reaching yourself before you have the work capacity to handle high volume in one workout. Medium volume workouts 5 days a week in the end beats high volume workouts two days a week. Of course, you get to the level where your medium volume is someone else's heavy session.

This is usually how elite athletes come through, especially in say, olympic weightlifting. As their work capacity increases they end up doing a lot of big workouts (for you), sometimes multiple times a day.

>>28526383
Hey motherfucker, I'm asking about that shit because I know that's what I want to do. I'm not going to stop talking about it because it upsets you.

You know some of us aren't just COD kids right?
>Grew up reading shit about LRRP guys in Nam
>Volunteered at VA and got to learn about Marine Recon in Nam from vet
>Boss was 18b, told me ab5cool shit he's done, loves talking shop with me
>Always liked the teacher/operator aspect of SF
>Go train people to fight their own battles and teach them to be better
>Actual hearts and minds work without Johnny slackjaw grunt burning a m249 belt on a family and fucking it up for everyone
>Go out in a small team and be independent
>Kick in doors and do cool shit

Fucking dream job.

>>28526695
Yeah, I'm doing what others would call bitch workouts, but I'm doing them and regularly. 5 times a week, with low intensity shit on the weekend. Just limited on time and equipment at the moment. And my significant other is PISSED I'm working out instead of coming to bed at night.

>>28526608
>>28526684
You're NOT WANTED? You're fucking loser.

>I'm also the guy who's somehow making people really mad by telling them the same advice given to me.

It was shit advice given to you by a fucking loser. So shit it's made you low-ball your dreams and take the bullshit way around.

>Seriously, I think many of us were in the same position when we were younger, wanting to join the military to be the shooty guy and be elite. It's just silly for the most part and most people haven't truly thought it over.

I know a bunch of guys who are now operators. None of them thought that wanting to go for it was silly. None of them told other guys who wanted to do it that they were silly. What they said was 'It's hard, but you won't know if you don't try so get prepared.'. And then they gave them training advice. Because they are nothing at all like you.

Ditch this 'younger' shit. You're not mature and world wise. If you were, you'd know something more about goal setting.

>My job (pretty much a gunner/flight engi combined) is more exclusive than special forces. Only 280ish of us

I'm not suprised that a you think that, you sound like that kind of faggot (we're special forces, we really are! there's less of us than them!). You are not and will never be. Fuck off, you really are worthless.

>>28526765
M8, it sounds like you've made a proper start already. It's a good sign that you're not caving to pressure already, keep it up. Other people will probably be the biggest obstacle.

Nothing's guaranteed of course, but it sounds like you're doing everything right so far.

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>>28526787
Super mad

Who are you trying to convince? Yourself? Are you hoping the recruiter sees your online history and how committed you are?

Just stop. Maybe you'll succeed. I could bet money that you won't and win the vast majority of the time.

This is called being realistic. I won't deny there are many stupid people in the military driven by their delusions

>>28526832
Biggest obstacle so far is actually keeping realistic goals. 12 months is my 'stop and evaluate progress' point, then if I'm at a point I think I'm ready I'll enlist, if not I'll do another 6 months higher intensity.

But looking at timetables measured in a year or more feels so distant that it was hard to be focused at first.
We all want results nownownow and knowing I won't even see the numbers on the scale change for a month got in my own head at first.

>>28526860
>You're not mature and world wise. If you were, you'd know something more about goal setting
>"I'm going to be the elite, the top tog, the best you can be and if you disagree you just don't understand goal setting"
Hilarious

>>28526860
>I was a kid that gave up on my dreams
>Now I'm a bitter adult who thinks everyone should quit like I did because statistically they're doomed for failure no matter what.

>>28526916
I didn't quit lol, I did other things with my life

For someone who says strawman a lot you sure do have no self-awareness

How lucky am I? I signed my contract for 35T last week after I got an exception to policy for being colorblind. My recruiter then called me today and said that I get a 25k bonus. I also got airborne in contract. Trying not to blog, but everything is looking great for me.

>>28526961
Should have gone 18x, quitter

>>28526961
Good for you man! Keep us all updated on your progress.

>>28526957
So did you realize you couldn't do SF because you're a bitch? Or did you just come to realize it's not the job you want and you wouldn't be happy doing it?

>>28526961
Ignore >>28526994

It's just >>28523342 trying to start shit.

>>28526994
>>28527030
SOF is pretty good meme

>>28527009
I graduated school and just did other things with my life

Now I'm bored of normal stuff and want to join the military

SF isn't out of the picture but it just seems absolutely overrated and misunderstood, just like how many people who want to go infantry think they'll be killing bad guys but end up sweeping floors. Combat just seems completely overrated. I don't think many younger people understand that

hey guys what's it like in the coast guard

>>28526860
>Just stop. Maybe you'll succeed. I could bet money that you won't and win the vast majority of the time.

Bet money on what?

Look at yourself, you're like a bad stereotype. 'Don't try, you'll probably fail', and 'I'm joining a unit that's even more exclusive than special forces!'. Jesus Christ. The suprising thing is how not suprised I am.

>This is called being realistic.

Except it's actually not. But the fact that you don't realise this only effects you, so who really cares. As said before just stop being a faggot and stop trying to take people down to your level. You're ridiculing people who enough balls to try, claiming some sort of authority about it. Like you'd fucking know.

And you keep trying to paint people who want to be hardchargers, and the people pointing them in the right direction as liberal faggots. You have issues, stop trying to dress them up as 'realism', just because you're too scared to go pararesue.

You're the prick in every basic that keeps telling everyone that it's too hard, when everyone else is trying to get it done.

In ten years time you'll be some fat fuck congratulating yourself on never bothering to put in a packet for special operations, because it's silly and 'everyone knows' that you probably would have failed. Have fun with that.

>>28527120
Pretty cool, they do lots of good shit around here.

Be warned though, if you join you'll do your job plus some since they got a ton of new responsibilities but didn't get a personnel boost to match.

>>28527088
So you were a COD kiddie, realized SOF don't cling to passenger jet landing gear to get in position for a HALO jump to assassinate Jason Bourne, and got all jaded and buttmad?

What do you have to say to people like >>28526706

>>28526915
m8, how do you think people become elite? you think the oracle at delphi comes along and tells them? like a wolf pup drops out of the sky and they become emperor of rome?

>>28526957
>I didn't quit lol, I did other things with my life

you mean you never tried in the first place? m8, that just means you're a fucking loser.

>>28526961
congratulations anon

>got a job as a busboy at a steakhouse a month ago
>hate every day i have to work
if I can barely do this shitty job, how can I even think of joining the military?

>>28525253
Pistol squats are very hard. Your progression will probably go split squats -> shrimps -> pistol squats. You should be doing them like weighted squats in sets of relatively low reps. And I recommended leaving in lunges for the endurance. Endurance isn't bad but if you're already running and doing lunges you will get a lot more benefit from doing some strength-building exercises than from doing more endurance training.

>>28527088
>SF isn't out of the picture but it just seems absolutely overrated and misunderstood

you didn't want those grapes anyway.

>Combat just seems completely overrated

you sound like you're trying to talk yourself into accepting you'll never be an operator.

>>28526432
I'm interested in being an NFO, also open to considering the AF version (Flight Systems Officer I think?). Basically my vision isn't good enough to be a pilot but I still want to be air crew.

>>28527120
Quality, because they're the only branch that all do their real jobs all the time.

>>28527216
Combat is overrated though. People only want to be in combat because they think it looks cool to watch in media. This does not mean it is cool to actually experience. And regardless of your opinion of combat experience, you have a 99.9% chance of spending your entire enlistment as a janitor anyway. Even in 2003-04 only something like 1/3 of units deployed and most of those never saw combat.

>>28526961
That's awesome bro, the sky's the limit

>>28527211
>split squats -> shrimps -> pistol squats.
That was my exact plan actually, cool.

I'll start replacing my squats with those. How do I get a number of reps/sets down? Do the fuckers to failure then work off that number?

>>28526787
Are you even in the military you stupid fuck? If so get some bearing. I'm saying just because a unit is small doesn't necessarily mean they are the best (see: my job.) And we'll see who's worthless when your retarded ass takes a bullet and the Jolly Green Giant comes to save your ass.

>>28527292
Hey I hAve 3.5 astigmatism and got in just fine. Try to be an ensued drone pilot (NOT a sensor operator). We have those now.

>>28527154
>strawman
>attacking people who aren't even me
>strawman
>strawman
You're set for a great career ahead of you but the only question is why not just go direct entry and apply as a janitor?

>>28527185
>m8, how do you think people become elite?
By setting realistic and progressive goals. If you walk into a gym and say you're going to be the next squat record holder but have only been doing lunges for a couple months I'll laugh at you

>What do you have to say to people like >>28526706 #
You hear the few nostalgified stories of coolguy shit over the course of another man's entire life. Expect about 100% more chance of boredom. Seriously, just be fucking realistic.

It just boggles my mind that you people think the response to people telling you that there's a good chance that parts of your job will fucking suck and the parts that don't are probably overrated is to deny it and get mad rather than say "yes, I'm a grown adult who understands this but these are sacrifices I'm willing to make to serve my country"

>>28527211
This. Used to be a PT. Beginners doing pistol squats is stupid. They always roll their feet, their knees fall into shit positions and they bounce. Great way to get knee pain, not a great way to get stronger

When split squats and lunges and step ups exist you just have to wonder why people bother with pistol squats for any other reason than getting better at split squats

>>28527292
do it, just take the ASTB

>>28527345
Enlisted* drone pilot ffs. We Ave those now.

You know, something no other branch does

>>28527342
I would start with 3 sets of 8, if you're not tired, do 5 sets of 8. Once you can do 5 sets of 8 and still have some juice left, move up to 5 sets of 9 or 10. Once you reach 5 sets of 12 try moving to the next variation. If you can't do 3 sets of 8 of the next form, just do one set and then do the rest with the form you can do.

For example, you can do 5 sets of 12 split squats, but only 2 sets of 6 shrimps. Do one set of 8 shrimps and then do 3-4 sets of 12 split squats until you can do 3 sets of 8 shrimps.

>>28526893
well, you've got to start somewhere. this is the good thing about programs like that navy one, they give you structure, and when you have structure you can start measuring progress.

here you go
http://www.sealswcc.com/navy-seals-buds-prep-docs.html#.VpXYArWrsYw

>>28527088
If you think combat is over-rated, why the fuck do you want to join the military?

>>28527346
>sacrifices I'm willing to make to serve my country"
Not about that.

So basically you're saying
>I've never done any of this stuff
>But let me tell you how it REALLY is
>Those people that lived that life are full of it, I have all the answers

You're kinda a punce.

>>28527345
>I'm saying just because a unit is small doesn't necessarily mean they are the best

>>28526684
>My job (pretty much a gunner/flight engi combined) is more exclusive than special forces. Only 280ish of us

so no, that's not what you said at all.

dude you are totally more operator than the operators.

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This operator phase /meg/ is going through is just fucking cancerous, especially with that autist typing walls of text about his own self hatred.


When do we get a Aussie phase of /meg/?

>>28527345
Is being an enlisted drone pilot really good enough to be worth forfeiting being an officer though? I will admit that your MOS sounds cool now that I investigate it, does special missions mean you work with PJs etc.?

At the MEPS hotel.
There's a rule we can't go into the female rooms.
But there's some qts
Fuck

>>28527346
there were no strawmans in there. you said all of that. now you're just going to hide behind anon and say 'no that was someone else' despite the message and the tone being exactly the same.

>By setting realistic and progressive goals

no where have you said anything about realistic and progressive goals. everyone else has been doing that. you've said 'it's a stupid idea and you're going to fail'. that's exactly how you do fail, by adopting that attitude.

>It just boggles my mind that you people think the response to people telling you that there's a good chance that parts of your job will fucking suck and the parts that don't are probably overrated is to deny it and get mad rather than say "yes, I'm a grown adult who understands this but these are sacrifices I'm willing to make to serve my country"

you haven't been doing that either. fuck nigger, stop being such a faggot. own your shit for once in your life.

>>28527441
Exclusive=/= best

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>>28527492
There are no tits in Leavenworth, son

>>28527499
that's pretty much exactly what it means. particuly in the context of military units.

if you're not directly measuring your dick size against special operations, why even mention it?

dude you are totally more l33t than pararescue. be sure to tell everybody that as well.

>People saying they want to get /fit/
>Few wanna be SF
>One or two guys giving them pointers on how to get there
>This one autist screaming about how nobody sees the big picture he sees and SF and grunts are tools, wanting to join them meens you simply don't understand the things he's done and we should all quit right now and be desk clerks or something

>Handful of people asking honest questions about some neat MOS and getting drowned out by everyone arguing with autismo supreme

>>28527564
trueposting

if people could summon the 1 iota of willpower required to just fucking ignore the trolls then this thread would stop being so shitty

>>28527564
Yeah, unfortunately NOT WANTED has shit up the last couple of threads. Really we should just ignore him.

Also, why the fuck does the street names catchpa always fuck up. Get it together google.?

>>28527601
Yesterday I got a captcha for milkshakes, but there were no milkshakes. It thought a glass of milk and an iced coffee were milkshakes.

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Whats the MOS for drone operators?
Is it an AF only job or do each branch have their own division of Nerds with Birds?

>>28527403
Thanks! I'm at work on my phone right now, but I'll open it when I get home. Interested to see the layout.

What are some biology related MOS in the army, navy, or air force

>>28527618
i no rite. burgers are not fucking sandwiches google wtf

>>28527648
happy to help bro good luck

>>28527433
Be realistic

>>28527417
Dude...

>>28527496
>>28527601
Dude, you're retarded

>>28527670
Interested in Germ Warfare, son?

That field might not be as open as it once was, because, you know, geneva convention and all that shit

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>>28527703
You are a 22 year old with a histories degree and a very splitnery broom.

You need to stop shitting the thread

>>28527703
Dude...

>>28527724
I tried to stop shorting things up earlier. I was super operator-tier positive just like you but you didn't like it :(

The reason I'm doing so poorly is probably because I'm just not being myself enough. I just need to try harder. Just talk to a recruiter tomorrow and I could be killing bin ladens every day, if I only was man enough ;_;

>>28527782
Dude....

>>28527724
He's 22?

>>28527782
Shut the fuck up child, adults are talking. God damn, have you done ANYTHING difficult in your entire life?

>>28527693
Thanks, I'll pop in from time to time in MEG to chat, helps with ignoring the NotWanted types in my life.

>>28527881
peace out.

Hey guys what's the best MOS that allows me to be myself?

Leaving in one week for MEPS then onto the airport to go to lackland.

Man where has time gone.

Can't wait to celebrate my 23rd bday during BMT also. Get to wake up at 0445 and PT all day or some shit.
At least there's a light at the end of the tunnel and its name is the DLI.

So if I join the National Guard, do I go back to a base in my home state after completing basic and AIT? My primary reason for enlisting is the same a lot of people have, financial aid with college. Not sure what my AIT would be, probably Horizontal Engineering, but it depends on what my ASVAB comes out as.

Might just do active duty.

>>28528019
35T

>>28528019
dude...

What routine should I follow to prepare myself physically for basic so that it's not complete hell the first couple weeks?

>>28520236
All I've ever wanted to do is be a pilot, but my vision is very bad to the point where it may not even be correctable to 20/20. Is there any way to be a pilot without perfect vision? Considering how technology has advanced, is it really even necessary to have 20/20 vision? It seems like pilots depend on computers more than ever. Obviously being able to see what's going on is important but is perfect vision still absolutely necessary?

>>28528117
Any exercise regime with a schedule. Basic bitch exercise is all about prepping joints/ligaments, increasing aerobic capacity, improving form and helping to ingrain good habits.

Just start and you'll be miles ahead of most your cohort.

>>28528117
depends on how fit you are and how much time you've got. can you pass the basic fitness tests? what's your mos?

you'll want to be calisthenics and endurance heavy. free weights have their place but you really need to make numbers for the press ups and runs, so don't prioritise them too much.

the program here
>>28527403

will work but might be more than you're looking for.

>>28528174
First you need to worry about becoming an officer then get LASIK and hope for the best.

>>28528238
I'm not sure the Air Force accepts LASIK.

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>>28528023

>mfw I'll be turning 20 about halfway through BCT
>mfw I'll do everything in my power to keep it a secret

If I pull it off I'll be Yung OPSEC God

>20X10 IS 10 MILLION PUSHUPS PRIVATE! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

>>28528259

There are procedures similar to LASIK but distinct. The Air Force explains this on their site pretty clearly. Wait till you have that sweet, sweet Tricare first though.

>>28528269
pay cash and it never happened

>>28527670
Pretty much only medicine

>>28528174
It really isn't necessary anymore. But it's still a requirement, unfortunately.

>>28528269
Literally no one will give a shit. Not being an asshole but it's the truth.

>>28528259
nope, i was wrong. looks like they've changed policy. best to double check though.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airforce/a/pilotlasik.htm

>>28528117
It's really not that serious. Just do pushups, situps, and run. Basic itself will take care of the rest, if you're not a pussy and actually push yourself.

>>28528353
If you're gaining fitness in basic you're doing it wrong

>>28527632
I'm not sure of the exact designation, but the army has drone operators too.

>>28528362
If he's asking how to get fit here he probably doesn't have time to go on some crazy routine if he already signed up. I didn't really get into decent shape until got to my unit, and I could actually go to the gym regularly and start taking supplements.

So are MARSOC Raiders essentially just the lovechild of the SEALs and Rangers?

how many pushups, situps, and pullups and mile time for a good physical fitness score?

>>28528473
100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 pullups, 0:01 run time

>>28528434

Imagine a constantly wet Army Ranger with relaxed grooming standards

>>28528187
>>28528192
>>28528353
I'm reasonably fit, used to run cross country in high school and can still jog 3.6 miles without stopping. My pushup max is at around 40 right now, not sure about situps since I do spiderman plank crunches instead. Haven't enlisted yet, going to take the ASVAB either tomorrow or the day after. Only weighted exercises I do are with dumbells.

>>28526961
U gun git Bragg'd.

>>28528597
You won't struggle too much then. Pt in basic is garbage, just keep it and you'll see how easy it is.

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>All the talk about working out for Opt.40 on MEG got me to start working out.
>Just jogging and pushups for now, not going military just getting less fat
>Job is 99% sitting at a computer, used to love it
>Now sitting still kills me and I'm going nuts that I can't bust out some pushups or something.

Fuck you guys, you ruined my job.

What decides where you are stationed for your service?

>>28528720
Chicken bones and voodoo

Hey /meg/

For a long time, I wanted to finish up this AA and then enlist, hopefully submitting an application after I get a 4 year.

But, all this shitposting about all enlisted being proffessional sweepers has convinced me.

Is it possible to do an ROTC program for only 2 years? Or would I have to try my hand at OCS?

I know if I graduate OCS I would have very little chance of actually getting a job I want.

I also don't really want to have some office desk job, really want a different experience.

Advice?

>>28528735
>Is it possible to do an ROTC program for only 2 years?

Yes, this is normal.

>>28528757
That's a breather

thanks

>>28528757
I'm 44% done with a 4 year degree, too late to start?

>>28528941
It's never too late, but you have to take a military science minor, so depending on your exact degree plan and what you've taken so far, doing ROTC may cause you to have to add an extra semester or year onto your degree in order to fit all the credits for your new minor.

>>28528964
Well I'm a Bio/Chem major. Natural Sciences at my Uni doesn't actually offer any "minors."

>>28525683
Opposite with me. Made me realize I should do DEP because civ life is boring.

>anon it's dangerous, you could die
Uhh yeah crossing the street too
>getting shot/blown up
What is ghetto neighborhoods, autists, and freeway accidents
>it's shill work/Iow pay loser shit
Yah and so is working at Target, being a bank teller, and etc.

Civ shit sucks. It's boring and not challenging nor prestigious.

>>28529088
I'm with you man
It's hard making the almost brotherly friendships with people as a normal person than as someone in the military

>>28529016
If your degree doesn't have room for a minor, then you're definitely going to need extra time for the credits to add one. Or you could just take a higher credit load per semester.

Top result on google has that minor at 28 credits.

>>28529135
I mean that my Uni's College of Natural Sciences doesn't offer "minors."

I have some 18 hours that I am supposed to dedicate to specialized neurosciences, biology, or chemistry of my choice OR I can do a "certificate" in business or some other such nonsense.

My normal credit load is 15 hrs/semesters

>>28529088
>low pay loser shit

Pretty irrelevant when housing, food, and health care is free.

>>28528473
Pretty sure 100, 100, 8, 6 minutes will get you a perfect score on every PFT. iirc those are at or slightly above a perfect score for the qualifying test to go to Navy SOF selection.

>>28528735
Enlisted being professional sweepers is just the infantry/combat arms. Enlisted technicians/mechanics/etc do plenty of cool/interesting stuff.

>>28529016
Just because there are no natural science minors at your school doesn't mean you can't get a minor. If your school has ROTC, you will get a minor in military science.

>>28529295
wtf exactly is a minor in "military science" google lends me no hand

>>28529285
We also do a lot of sweeping

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>>28529295
How do I get a minor in my bed?

>>28529523
Policing that mooooostache, Sixta?

So you've decided to enlist. You're not just going to be some REMF or POG schmuck. You're going to operate. Trying to decide which Special Operations unit you're going to join is actually a lot trickier than it sounds.

Let's go down the list from least to most respectable:

Air Force Combat Controllers and Pararescuers are eliminated right off the bat because they're fucking Chair Force. If you're in the USAF and you're not flying a fighter, you've fucked up.

Coast Guard ASTs? Are you kidding me? Coast Guard? Get the fuck out. You can be a lifeguard at the Y.

Marine Raiders are pretty cool but they're also pretty new so no one knows them and no one will care when you tell them you are one. Also, Marines are generally dumb as shit.

The Army Rangers should be near the top of anyone's list. The last famous Ranger, though, was Pat Tillman and he was shot by his own guys. Half the Army has a Ranger tab on their shoulder so no one will care if you're a real Ranger. Plus, it's impossible to tell people you were in the Army without people thinking you weren't tough enough for the Marines.

The Army Special Forces are extremely cool and everyone respects them, but as a Green Beret, you will be doing a lot of helping dirty-ass locals with their problems. Fucking waste of time. Do you want to be in the Peace Corps or do you want to operate?

The Navy SEALs are a great choice. Everyone respects the hell out of them, but "American Sniper" made them all look like a bunch of goofballs except for Chris Kyle, who was a liar. Worse, the Navy's dress uniform is as faggy as the rest of the Navy.

But there is another option:
The GCP is France's version of the Rangers. To join them you have to join the Foreign Legion first and serve there for a couple of years. But then, you're fighting for France. So fuck that.

As you can see, there's no perfect choice, but such is life among the elite warriors of America: you have to sometimes make do with what you're given.

Best of luck!

>>28530088
why do you always do this? does it make you feel good?

When the COD kids show up, this is the most helpful thing for them, phrased in a language they can understand.

>>28530114
YOU. ARE LITERALLY. THE ONLY FUCKING COD KID IN THESE THREADS!

>SHUT
>THE
>FUCK
>UP!

You're just butt mad as hell that other people MIGHT go SOF and be better than you so you shit post like a fucking child. You didn't even fucking join the military and you think that makes you better or smarter than everyone who did, but you're going to die with no cool stories and someone else is going to do things worth telling grand kids on their death bed.

>>28527441
Exclusive =/= Elite

We know who got a 5 on the English comprehension part of the asvab

>>28527490
It's a generally cool AFSC. We are the gun loaders and sensor operators (read: trigger men) on ac-130s, in NSAV we work with alphabet agencies putting their people to the corners of the earth secretly, on HH-60s we do search and rescue with PJ'S stateside and in deployed environments, and on the UH-1 hueys we guard/escort nuclear missiles and missile silos

>>28527492
Get used to it.

>>28527632
Gonna be looking a 1U0X1 sensor operators. They don't pilot thedeone, just work the weapon systems. As of like 2 months ago we have an enlisted AFSC to pilot drones, but I'm not sure of the numerical designation. Prolly gonna be xAxxx whenever it's released.

>>28528117

For air force bmt: be able to run 25 mins without stopping. Then do 1 minute rest, then 6 minutes of alternating sprinting and running every 30 seconds

Go for 45 pushups with the min. being 32
Go for 55 situps with the min. being 42

Pull ups don't count on our pt test

>>28528238
Crypto is Bretty easy for what I've gathered bro good luck. We had a TSGT who had been in since 1997 reclassified into 1a9, she got washed back though

I'm about to go to work so any questions will be answered after 1700ish of I remember to come back

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>>28530137
Imagine being this mad

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>>28530191
Thanks for the info on the drone MOS Mr USAF!


>We had a TSGT who had been in since 1997 reclassified into 1a9, she got washed back though

What'd she do before being reclassified?

>>28530088
>air force pj's and tacp are bad because chair force meme

Hahaha. You sound like national guard finance or a civilian.

>>28530205
1a8 airborne cryptolinguist.

I've actually gotta get going now. See you guys later

jesus fucking christ, this thread. what the fuck happened last night?

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>>28530324
islam
fucking hajjis man

>>28530357
/meg/ fell for the bait edition

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>>28530357
>NotWanted is a hajji trying to lower SOF recruitment numbers
Wut.

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>>28530453
Who knows, maybe it's 13fox shitposting from Leavenworth

>>28530467
>shitposting from Leavenworth
He did say he'd loose his phone privileges if he didn't meet the PT standard

>>28530490
punched an officer and hid the phone up his ass, maybe?


Anything to get out of doing Depressing PT in the cold

>>28530517
i was the one who suggested violence, i hope he took my advice. holy shit lol

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Is it true that if I complete BCT, my ASVAB test scores won't expire? I want to reclass but need to know for sure wether or not I need to retake it first.

>>28530651
they last for 6 months i believe

>>28530669
FML
Looks like ill have to retest then. The worst part is I scored high enough the last time for these jobs im looking into.

Hey guys

Why do people even go general military when SF is available? Like... why are there so many people who are absolute losers? How can so many people just be quitters?

Also, do you have to wear the standard uniforms in the military? I'm going to talk to a recruiter soon about becoming a navy seal and wanted to know whether you could wear your own masks in the military. I've always really liked the skull mask balaclava from call of duty and wondered if it would be acceptable to bring to boot camp

Has anyone here been/currently is in the Foreign Legion? What can you tell me about it, besides what they've written on their website?
Is it worth joining if your life has no direction, your army sucks and your country's poor as fuck?

>>28530705
bait

>>28530732
what country?

Are you willing to be beaten up everyday by russian Caporals?

Do you have a criminal history?

are you willing to be made into a man by some brutal as fuck hazing?

can you speak french?

>>28530768
>what country?
Bulgaria, Jewel of the Combloc

>Are you willing to be beaten up everyday by russian Caporals?
I'm used to being hit, but I don't know about getting beaten up.

>Do you have a criminal history?
Cristal clear.

>are you willing to be made into a man by some brutal as fuck hazing?
Does it include anything gay?

>can you speak french?
B2 certificate in French.

>>28530788
Yep, all of those are good prerequisets

Eastern Bloc is dominating FFL at the moment, so you're good

speak french or get hit, thats a rule of thumb.

>does it include anything gay?
nah, it's not THAT much like prison.

make no mistake, it essentially is prison, but when you get deployed, you'll love it.

fitness is important, just so you dont get beaten down as hard.

>>28530651
>>28530703

Don't listen to this guy>>28530669
As long as you complete BCT or haven't been out of service for atleast 2 years, your ASVAB test scores won't expire.

>>28530808
A question. The website said something about being allowed electronics AFTER the training period. Does that mean I can't even bring an MP3 player with me? Or an ebook?
If I can, would it even be a good idea?

>>28529417
Don't forget taking out the trash

If I sign a contract for 9TG58 in the Air Force, do I just get get assigned a random MOS that requires a minimum general score of 58 during basic training?