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Fit guns for BBs:
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News:
-The Summer 2016 event is slated to start in August, and its scale will be smaller compared to last year.
-Asashio Kai 2 has been implemented. It will come with a Kai 2 D form, with which it is reversible. She will be capable of equipping daihatsu and Ka-Mi at Kai 2 D, but not at Kai 2.
-8 new quests have been added, including a limited time summer quest which rewards a summer furniture. In addition, a new type of quest, the trimonthly (seasonal) quest, has been introduced.
-2 new and 3 returning early summer furniture have been added.
-Zero Fighter M32 has been implemented, and can be obtained from development. Its Skilled variant, Zero Fighter M32 (Skilled), can be upgraded from Zero Fighter M21 (Skilled).
-Zero Fighters M21/M32/M52 (and their variants) and T96 fighters can now be improved. Proto 61cm sextuple oxygen torpedoes can now also be improved.
-Iowa is now fit with her own guns, the 16 inch Mk.7. They can now be upgraded to a high accuracy variant with GFCS, which can be further improved.
-The following ships have received a buff to their ASW: Tanikaze Kai (+1), Shigure Kai 2, Uzuki Kai (+2), Ushio Kai 2, Okinami Kai (+3), Isokaze Kai, Hamakaze Kai, Maikaze Kai, Harukaze Kai (+4) and Kamikaze Kai (+6).
-Ushio, Ayanami and Hatsuharu's max firepower at Kai 2 have been buffed by 2 points. Hatsushimo Kai 2's firepower has also been buffed by 1 point.
-Isokaze Kai's max luck has been buffed from 59 to 77. Her max LoS has also been buffed by 10 points.
-An opening ASW attack phase has been implemented. It will take place after support fleet attack phase and before opening torpedo phase. Isuzu Kai 2 can perform the pre-emptive ASW attack unconditionally. Every other ship needs 100+ total ASW, which can be increased with levels or equipment, as well as a sonar to perform it.
-Depth charge animation when fighting submarines has been sped up, among other UI/graphical fixes.
-Shiratsuyu has received a mobile phone seasonal sprite in commemoration of the Android port's implementation.
-The Android port has undergone a maintenance to accommodate 80k more players, who have been selected by lottery to join the original 250k lottery winners. It will be accessible to all players from the July 15 maintenance.
-100 new and returning Rainy Season lines have been implemented, along with new seasonal sprites for Hayashimo, Kiyoshimo, Akebono, Yuudachi Kai 2, Mizuho, Yuubari, Mogami, Chitose and Chiyoda, as well as returning sprites, and new and returning furniture. All these will be removed on the July 15 maintenance, and the seasonal sprites added to the library.
-The Mutsuki-class DD that will be implemented this summer will have an early summer seasonal line.
Kill all degenerates that sexualize Asashio.
What is a kantai collection? How do you collect kantais? What is a kantai?
>>15516919
Yes.
>>15516919
Are you, per any chance, an idiot?
How many pieces of upgraded asw would be a good number before moving on to 16inch?
>>15517019
Four, three sonars and one DC
>>15517027
Just that? Already have five sonars (three type 4) and second depth charge is on its way to +4. Cool.
>>15517037
Considering how easy it is to reach ASW cap in line aboob the only time when ASW gear upgrades really matter is when you have to go line ahead or double line. In that case you're usually bringing only one ASW role ship. In that case instead of spreading your upgrades wide you'll ideally want 3x +6 T4s and a +6 T3DC
>>15517048
>Considering how easy it is to reach ASW cap
Are you sure of that?
Lv 85 Asashio Kai Ni D had 82 asw. With two T4 sonars and one T3 depth charge all at +4, according to my calcs, she only reaches 97,877 damage.
Anti-sub warfare (2 × √(Ship ASW) + 1.5 × Equipment ASW + ASW Upgrades + Type) × Bonus
(2 × √82 + 1.5 × 32 + (2+2+2) + 13) × 1.15
Or is (Ship ASW) 114 in such case?
>>15517083
Why would you forget formation modifier?
>>15517093
Ah, the newer wiki has it at x1. Wikia has it at x1.3.
>>15517106
wikiwiki lists it with 1.3
Anyone else have terrible disconnecting problems at the moment?
>>15517115
Well, anyway. Ayanami lv 98 has 62 asw. With unupgraded T3 eq she has
(2 × √62 + 1.5 × 28 + 13) × 1.15 * 1.3 = 105.768
So yeah, basically anyone can reach the cap. What a bummer. Firepower and evasion increases are still nice though.
>>15517106
The newer wiki used the old ASW formula. Equipment ASW in line aboob gave x2 in the old formula, and x1.95 in the new one.
>>15517164
Ah, that's why. Thanks.
Probably been asked before, but is there any real use for Akitsushima aside of routing? Poor girl can't equip midget subs, and Taitei-chan is rather useless compared to a normal Zuiun.
>>15517182
Seaplane fighters on 6-4. So yes, routing.
Madmen can use her and Taitei-chan to farm devmats from 6-3 but people on 6-3 should already be done with LSC.
>>15517182
>is there any real use for Akitsushima aside of routing?
No.
>>15517187
>people on 6-3 should already be done with LSC
If only.
>>15517182
No. Akitsushitter is a meme ship whose only relevance is forced by retarded routing.
>>15517187
>people on 6-3 should already be done with LSC.
I wish. Now that upgrading burger guns takes priority I've practically given up on Musashi
>>15517195
+6 GFCS requires 45/500/770/500, 16 screws, 24 devmats and two T32 per star.
>>15517206
Even the regular 16inch takes 24 devmats. Fucking Tanaka
>>15517212
T32 has 2% craft rate with 20/20/250/250
That's about 2k/2k/25k/25k to get the mod fodder for one upgrade.
Taihou crafting doesn't look so bad anymore.
>>15517219
So, the total cost for getting max GFCS is 6k bauxite + ~125k bauxite spent on getting ten T32 + 10k ammo for upgrades + 75k ammo for twelve 46cm + 16k steel for upgrades + 200k steel for 46cm and T32.
I'm assuming you get enough 41cm and T22 form crafting of bigger eq.
If you crafted Taihou in 25 attempts instead, you would save on all resources but fuel.
>>15517293
Considering the cost of the GFCS I wonder if it means there will never be any other means to get it than crafting it from scratch. The big searchlight was the same so I wouldn't be surprised
Final update
Upgrading 16inch to max GFCS is 376 devmats and 216 screws.
Getting mod fodder should take additional ~475 devmats with previous figures and kancolle-db info (25% penguin for 46 cm, 50% penguin for radar). So we're looking at ~850 devmats total.
>>15517331
Perhaps only top5 will see it and twice at most.
>>15517331
I'm going to think that big searchlight will be stock equipment of Kirishima Kai 3 or something in the future after a few more years of power creep.
That feelio when you're shipfus don't fit on one page.
>>15517348
>Perhaps only top5 will see it and twice at most.
As if last month's rewards weren't already way too
good for top5 compared to other tiers
>>15516070
I bet they pulled a Yamato and simply made her neutral with the MK. 7. Can't have the burger boat getting too powerful, can we?
Hell, given the dev's recent track record, I wouldn't be surprised if introduced another bug for Iowa while removing the MK.7 penalty.
>>15517182
>>15517187
>>15517189
>>15517194
AS, morons.
>>15517473
If it was just AS Chitose-class or Mizuho would do the job much better than Kamo could.
>>15517473
> AS
N-no thank you, I think I better use some designated CV(L) or actually non-shit AV
> But you can use only Akitsushima on this map!
oh, so it's not actually 'AS', it is actually 'routing'.
>>15517473
>Akitsushima
>AS
>>15517489
It's both.
>>15517473
When you're forced to use Akitsushitter for AS it's because of routing you dipshit.
Why do you guys think you use Akitsushima for AS?
When you are forced to use her because of routing, you obviously want to make dogshit look pretty.
>>15517494
Before seaplane fighters buff, who here thought of using Akitsushima for getting AS at 6-4?
AS is at best an afterthought.
>>15517529
You can get the same route without Kamo.
>>15517473
You don't have right to call me a moron, cretin.
U-511 has the most soothing voice in the game. Why did they have to change it to that shitty genki voice for her K2? I fucking hate it.
>>15517582
>U-511
>soothing
Nope.
She can't even form a sentence. She's a kid with brain problems.
If you want soothing, look at Harukaze.
Holy shit I love Sendai
>>15517151
I take it the formation modifier doesn't count towards opening ASW and you still need a raw stat of 100 with equipment.
>>15517594
I hope you also love being exhausted from lack of sleep.
>>15517597
Staying up until the sun rises to be with Sendai is a fair trade off
>>15517594
Are you the guy who was levelling her this entire time?
>>15517582
I like shy girls, but I wouldn't call her soothing.
Pola's speech soothes the soul.
>>15517607
M-maybe b-b-baka
>>15517614
Pfffft. Good luck with Yuudachi. More importantly, remember what I said about Maya.
>>15517596
Yes because opening attack is affected by asw stat and formation modifies damage, not the asw stat.
>>15517609
I was talking about triggering it. All you need to trigger opening torpedo is a minisub or to be a submarine level 10 or more.
>>15517611
Yuu is less shy and more "I can't speak Japanese properly yet"
>>15517616
Poi is 38 so it shouldn't take me more than a few hours to get her to 55 if I don't get distracted
I'll do Maya next
>>15517625
Good man.
>>15517639
Leave that ducks burger alone!
>>15517582
Stop misusing words.
>>15517625
>>15517614
>sample
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=453788
You're welcome.
I have 2 more BPs before the event. I have leveled Bismarck, Zuikaku, Choukai and Chikuma.
Who should I upgrade?
>>15517805
Zui and Chikuma.
>>15517805
Zuikaku and Bisko are the ones that are most likely to see action. Choukai is low priority so she's safe to ignore
>>15517805
Zuikaku. Wait for the other until event starts to see if you should need another CAV, if not Biscuit.
>>15517828
Biscuit needs 2 BPs though so of he uses one on Zuicucku he won't be able get get Bisko 3
>>15517820
>>15517828
Kai Ni Zui or Kai Ni A Zui?
>>15517900
Armored is always better unless it's not allowed or increases chance to get off routed by routing conditions
Is the new Burger gun worth wasting resources and couple of 41 and 46s for it?
>>15517963
The entire point of the GFCS is to bilk money from all the flag-waving idiots who were spamming "Make Kancolle Great Again" when Iowa debuted.
I'm never going to put Ro in flagship position ever again.
てー てー てー
>>15518043
What does desu te even mean?
>>15518050
As far as I know, nothing. But she certainly likes saying it.
>>15518050
>>15518073
It's just a way of emphasizing something
>>15518043
>best defensive stats of any sub
Why would you put her in flag in the first place?
>>15518092
No idea, anon. I make poor decisions sometimes.
>>15518090
Thanks, anon.
>Yen keeps fucking rising
>>15518211
My salary is calculated in USD and paid in JPY. Feel my pain of getting less and less every year even with increases.
>>15518050
It's the same tick as -,yes.
Just that if we were to play around with it it will be like: Operation complete. A job well done, yes-sy!
>>15518223
Sure must be painful to still earn more than most japanese people.
>>15517900
Jesus. Always go for highest remodel. Alternative remodels are cancer solely because of these question.
>>15518223
You better start training for another job homie.
>>15518233
There hasn't been a viable reason to keep any of the DDs at their highest remodel so far (unless you wanted Asashio on your expedition teams, which wasn't worth it compared to her base stats at Kai Ni). Asashio has excellent stats at Kai Ni, while Kasumi's highest remodel doesn't give you anything substantial (even the AACI is pretty meh).
I can understand keeping the cranes at Kai Ni A - although I'm perfectly happy with their base forms, at least as long as I need more air power over resilience and attacks at medium damage - but there's no reason to get the DDs to their final forms other than for the KanColleDex.
>>15518281
Better art. Their K2s aren't anything special when compared to Poi and Ayanami.
Asashio K2D offers A LOT. And no, expeditions have nothing to do with that.
>>15518281
Please tell me you're trolling. K2B and K2D are better in everything other than (y)fp.
>>15518281
Asashio can only carry tanks at her alternative remodel though.
>>15518310
My mistake. Not tanks, daihatsu and Ka-Mi only.
>>15518335
Ka-Mi is the tank. Daihatsu are irrelevant.
>>15518292
>>15518302
If I want a tanky DD with the ability to carry Daihatsu and/or Ka-Mi, I have Верный.
>K2B and K2D are better in everything other than (y)fp
And torpedoes. Which, combined, are the most important stats for your DDs, especially whenever night battles come into play.
Nothing special compared to Yuudachi and Ayanami, sure, but wouldn't you rather have 4 DDs that all hit reasonably hard, instead of 2 that hit hard and 2 that hit for mediocre damage?
The only utility for K2D, maybe, is if you're loading up with a whole lot of Kai-Mi to hit 6-4, or any similar map in the future. I can't think of any similar use for K2B.
I sexually identify as an Iowa-class battleship. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of sailing the seven seas and firing hot loads at people who hate America. People say to me that a person being a battleship is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install 16-inch naval guns, Tomahawk missiles, and huge tits and a vagina. From now on I want you guys to call me “BB Six-Wan” and respect my right to kill on the high seas and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a shipohobe and need to check your naval privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
>>15518373
>Iowa-class battleship
>boy
Could have put some more effort into a shitty copypasta.
>>15518378
If Bruce Jenner could do it...
How much should I pour into improving burger guns? It feels like it's genociding my screws.
>>15518360
I wish she could carry tanks at K2, then you wouldn't need the D. The drop in firepower is pretty tragic when you're up against heavily armored installations.
>>15518405
Either everything you have or nothing at all.
>>15518360
K2D is for fighting subs. Think autumn '15 E4.
>>15518360
>If I want a tanky DD with the ability to carry Daihatsu and/or Ka-Mi, I have Верный.
Yeah, because it's such a horrible idea to have more than one. Especially since branching likes to require more than one DD.
>And torpedoes. Which, combined, are the most important stats for your DDs, especially whenever night battles come into play.
Did you not see "y" in "(y)fp"?
Kawakaze is better at yasen than Kasumi K2.
And no, luck can be even more important. TCI Hatsushimo hits harder than DA Aasashio K2.
>but wouldn't you rather have 4 DDs that all hit reasonably hard, instead of 2 that hit hard and 2 that hit for mediocre damage?
You should realize there are more DDs than Yuudachi, Ayanami, Kasumi and Asashio. Not to mention Ooshio is much stronger than Kasumi while Akatsuki and Kawakaze are just a single point below.
By the way, see your first sentence:
>If I want a tanky DD with the ability to carry Daihatsu and/or Ka-Mi, I have Верный.
You're contradicting yourself within a single post.
>The only utility for K2D, maybe, is if you're loading up with a whole lot of Kai-Mi to hit 6-4, or any similar map in the future. I can't think of any similar use for K2B.
ASW, retard.
Asashio is absolutely unique in this regard and it would be reason enough even if her armor was lower as K2D. Keeping her in a form where she's only #3 (at normal combat, as K2) makes no sense.
>>15518405
+4 is already better than Proto41cm max.
>>15518405
+1 to 2 of them if you decide to use them for Iowa and then let them be. There will be more burgerboats and likely even an Iowa K2 that comes with at least one of the new guns. Waste of screws.
>>15518410
>I wish she could carry tanks at K2, then you wouldn't need the D. The drop in firepower is pretty tragic when you're up against heavily armored installations.
This is my concern for K2D. How bad is it, really for that remodel?
>>15518438
Probably okay, since she's Bep-tier, but the only stat I care about on a ship that can carry daihatsu is FP, since torpedo doesn't count against installations even in yasen.
>>15518445
can someone explain me the formula for installations?
>>15518427
You do realize that burger guns are practically the best guns for almost every ship in the game?
>>15518438
It's irrelevant once you consider power of anti installation eq and how scarce tank holders are. Max tank multiplies damage by 3.2. There aren't many DDs who can equip it so every one is important. Asashio K2D with two guns and tank hits harder than Yuudachi with two guns and WG42. Satsuki K2 with tank and T89 (third eq isn't even necessary) hits harder than Yuudachi with three WG42.
>>15518445
You should care about all misc stats which are also important for success even though they aren't idiot proof like fp is. K2D has +14 AA (installations always have bombers) and +3 HP, +3 armor (you always meet some DDs or cruisers vs which those stats matter). K2D also has opening asw attack which will be almost surely relevant on next such map. Asashio is the only DD who can do opening asw with tank and T89.
>>15518456
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Installation_Type?cb=8489
>>15518456
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Installation_Type
It's pretty complicated.
The modifiers of maxed daihatsu/tanks are really good but what concerns me is the fact that Mutsuki class really struggle with their shitty firepower to actually damage installations.
Wiki seems to believe they're all pre-cap, but that seems like bullshit since Bep and others can do daytime crits of 400-600 damage with all the gear equipped and that's way over the cap.
>>15518475
>Bep and others can do daytime crits of 400-600 damage with all the gear equipped and that's way over the cap.
That's supply hime only.
>B46
>having forgotten the horrors of 3-2 south route
How the fuck did I ever clear this map
>>15518515
Damecons
>>15518281
>while Kasumi's highest remodel doesn't give you anything substantial
I found her being able to use T32 radar very useful last event.
>>15518495
Yeah, it works. Two WG42 boost any DD to day cap damage, give 1.62 post cap and according to pic tank gives additional post cap modifier (range is perhaps based on upgrades?). Together with crit the post cap modifier can become x5.88.
I don't understand the composite effect though. Does it mean that with T89, tank and WG you get 1.81 * 2.42 *2.26 * 1.25 post cap modifier? (with crit giving possibly another *1.5) That would be x12.37 and x18.56 with crit which are FAR too much.
>>15518523
I found her VAGINA to be useful for SEX
>>15518515
Luck, which in the end is all the game boils down to.
>>15518528
She's also good to tease
>>15518526
>That would be x12.37 and x18.56 with crit which are FAR too much.
Yes, but her armor goes up to 190, and most daihatsu DDs have shitty FP so it evens out
>>15518528
Her and Asashio have that specialty.
>>15518554
WG42 gives +75 damage. Satsuki has 42 firepower and there's base +5 which means she has 123 assuming no pre-cap modifiers exist. Ooshio reaches 148, almost the cap.
>>15518418
Would you bother switching her in and out of her K2D form as events and off-peak seasons require, or would you just leave her at K2D for the utility it provides, and leave the heavy hitting to your other K2 DDs?
>>15518554
148 * 12.37 is 1831 damage.
148 * 18.56 is 2746 damage.
The highest damage I have seen so far was Ooshio scoring 807 hit. I'm not sure if that tripfag had WG though.
>>15518581
Maybe there's just a different cap for those equipments.
That said, I've not seen them hitting big on a regular basis, so it must just be crits that take a huge modifier.
Are quints outdated?
>>15518471
How bad is the re-modernisation requirement when you shift between K2 and K2D, anyway? Armour / FP / TP aren't usually a problem in terms of obtaining modernisation fodder, and AA doesn't have to be maxed out, but how bad is the hit?
What about Kasumi? What does her K2B do for her, other than giving her better radar options?
>>15518580
I already have mine as K2D, she looks too god. I'll just use someone else for surface combat, there's enough of other DDs. After all I managed without her so far and her ASW sounds way more appealing than being Poi 0.5.
Switching isn't that hard, especially if you have a lot of slots for mod fodder like some wealthier anons do. You can accumulate enough in one day without an issue. It is annoying though for other people because you can't use the second form immediately. I guess if you have ~40 free slots switching as need arises would be preferable.
>>15518589
You still need them to upgrade sexts.
>>15518590
If Cranes are something to go by, she loses a lot. I don't have the data though.
>>15518600
More AA and armor. Difference is smaller than in Asashio's case but she also loses much less of her surface power. K2B is still well above average with 59fp and the FuMO can boost it back to 62.
>>15518589
Only a tiny bit. Sextuples are very limited.
>>15518627
I wish they'd just given us the equivalent of a K3 with everything buffed instead of this "Choose A or B and suffer through modernisation each time" bullshit. Hell, it would've offered the possibility of older K2s getting K3s too, instead of this "Oh dear, we need to buff those old Kais / K2s again, because of the power creep" nonsense.
>>15518657
Just keep everyone at their final forms. K2A, K2B, K2D. I don't see a problem. They're overall better when you look at whole fleet and not the specific ships.
>first run 4-5 with 3BB/CA/2CV
>BCFHM
>2 buckets, S rank boss
I have no context with this build. Was that run good, mediocre, or bad?
>>15518657
Just get a dupe then if it bothers you that much.
>>15518657
Yeah I never liked this gimmick, just the dev teams way of trying and failing to balance a game they already fucked up time and time again.
>>15518233
Read the wiki.
>>15518668
Reasonable, it's the final kill that's hard anyway
>>15518689
You are the one who should.
>>15518700
Read the wiki and get out of here until you do.
>>15518710
I read the wiki thoroughly and that's why I'm here. You on the other hand...
>>15518657
I'm going to disagree with you.
I don't think newer ships should artificially be stronger. I approve of the niches and gimmicks that K2[letter] gives, but I think that the ships should be given those weird quirks as the only upgraded form.
So Kasumi shouldn't have a K2, just the B. And the Cranes should go straight to their armored form.
When your ships have different abilities, it gives each of them their own niche to exploit. Bep can equip torpedo bulges. Why? Who the fuck cares? It might be helpful one time.
Kasumi can carry radars or the FCF. Both are useful, and you shouldn't have to choose. If the difference between the two forms isn't huge, you should just have the weirder one.
>>15518720
>And the Cranes should go straight to their armored form
But I want muh camo.
>>15518730
Armored form should be camoflaged, they look the same otherwise anyway
Ooshio needs an alternate remodel with a hat.
>>15518772
>with a hat.
no
>>15518741
Pls no, red and white look better.
I'm hoping Zuihou will have an alternative to return her to her original form too.
>>15518730
Munch some grass and spit it on the screen, done.
>>15518730
Just converting both cranes too armored max modernize both of them. Take them too 4-5 and 5-5
Can't stand the poor slot distribution on armored form .
Launching plane while medium damage seems not so powerful they either taiha or dealing poor damage while chuuha.
And now I begin too considering switching back too regular form.
>>15518657
It doesn't even matter when the majority of players lean towards ships with default high luck. This is why you always see Ayanami, beaver and Prinz in escort fleets since forever.
>>15518811
But last event....
>>15518820
Last event was super weird.
>>15518844
This event promises to be even more so.
Asashio gets an alternate form that is about AA and ASW, Isuzu gets a guaranteed ASW cut-in.
There will be subs, oh yes.
>>15518720
I can understand that, sure. The gimmick is the niche, and raw shooty power shouldn't necessarily be everything (which is probably why the Daihatsu and Ka-Mi were introduced).
The problem right now is that there are two different games, to an extent. There's the event-time game, which is where a lot of these gimmicks shine, and the off-peak dailies / weeklies / monthlies / one-off quests and worlds and maps, a lot of which are based on an older version of the game, which not all of these gimmicks are compatible with. You see stuff showing up in the newer maps like 6-4, but there's still 5 other worlds that aren't anything like that, where all you really think about is "How do I kill things most efficiently?".
We're approaching a point where we may have enough things at K2 - some of which have their own respective niches - that this no longer matters, since you can keep your event and off-peak ships specialised in whatever they specialise in. That much has to be said. However, that assumes that you're well into the late game, and while most of /jp/ is around there, the average player base probably isn't (filthy casuals etc.), and the "maximum shooty for efficient killing" mindset is probably still there.
How do you fix this? Hell if I know, I'm not a dev.
>>15518864
... On hindsight, either way it's about killing things efficiently, so that was not the best choice of words. It's more of a "killing things conventionally" versus "killing things with special bonuses" affair.
>>15518860
Inb4 map with installation boss guarded by submarines.
>>15518864
War changes, you adapt to the changing enemy, Abyssals learn and grow. Mark my words, the devs will make history repeat itself in the KanColle world, which I think it's pretty cool.
>>15518888
I guess I should marry Abukuma so I can give her 1 sonar, 1 tank and a minisub
>>15518888
And it will not work like E6.
>>15518903
The definition of stretching yourself too thin.
>>15518903
So you want to make her shit at 3 things instead of good at 1 thing?
Tsu is ded, it's prime time to do your 6-1 monthly.
>>15518932
What's up with this Tsu thing?
>>15518373
If you actually do that I will find where you live, I will kidnap you and I will keep you in my sex dungeon for the rest of your life.
> Kinu is required for a questline that eventually yields the T4 Sonar
Is there a better way to farm for Kinu that isn't playing compass RNG on 4-1 for a chance at the boss node?
>>15518963
Why did you scrap her?
>>15518947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdqyh-aeCL8
>>15518963
Playing compass RNG on 4-2 with subs. Or you can do 2-5 farming.
>>15518963
Build her or do 4-2 with world 4 weekly, weeklies reset today anyway
>>15518963
Also for the record, she also drops at nodes C, G and I at 4-1, so as long as you don't retreat, you have a 100% chance of getting to at least one node dropping her.
>>15518967
I've never gotten Kinu before.
>>15518963
>not keeping 1 of everyone
>for exactly this reason
>>15518979
Kancolle-DB and poi-db indicate she drops only at the boss node at 4-1.
>There's all sorts. All sorts.
What does U-bote mean with this?
Why does Akashi get a separate card for kai but not Ooyodo? This stuff makes no sense.
Since the tank is superior to the T89 daihatsu in terms of bonus damage, is there any real reason to keep a T89 as is (other than maybe to equip on your Mutsukis)?
>>15518932
French ships when?
>>15519006
Whenever you find or see something out of the ordinary, just blame the devs being retarded as usual.
>>15519006
Yodos sprite was updated later.
Fuck you Ooyodo fuck you.
>>15518999
Oh well, then I guess you need to farm 2-5 or something.
Also small c etc.
Let's do our best this week as well.
>>15519037
Fuck you too.
I won't even tell you to do your best again this week. I have given up. I know you are a useless shit TTK.
>>15519039
Do you hate us?
>>15519011
Between Mers el-Kebir and Toulon, the French navy was pretty much a non-factor in World War 2.
>>15519039
>:05
This is the week where I finally kill myself
>>15519007
You stack it with the tank and WG on the DD, also for the B tier girls like Mutsuki and Kawakaze.
Let's be lazy and skip our weeklies this week as well.
>>15519091
Then what will I do all week?
>>15519083
I forgot about the damage stacking, thanks.
>>15519102
Sleep, eat, read the papers, do whatever a normie would do.
>>15519102
Cuddle with Agano.
I just K2'd Asashio and her name is untranslated in Yuubari's KCV. But I just had the popup with a new version yesterday and downloaded it. Is there any way to force it to update the translation files? I can't even find them, I thought I had seen them before on github but I don't remember where.
>>15519160
Go into the XML file and add Asashio Kai 2 and Kai 2 D.
>>15519174
Do you really expect him being able to do that when he can't even look in the settings tab?
That said I doubt the translation file is updated anyway, but whatever.
>>15519182
I expect everyone in this thread to know where the translation XML file is and how to update it.
>>15519182
I just translate it myself, no more Ekusa or CVB nonsense.
>>15519140
I want to feel Agano's jelly rolls all over me.
>>15518929
No, she'll be good at three things.
>>15518864
>and the off-peak dailies / weeklies / monthlies / one-off quests and worlds and maps
You can easily do those with commons so you really don't need K2. And well. Poi and Shiggy will always be first Kai Nis of new players due to lower remodel level.
>>15519039
disgusting
Fuck retards like Ooyodo.
>>15519039
>Still has the default old ass CG when not in the specific season
>Late by five seconds
I want Yodo to die.
>>15519011
Never.
>>15519011
From the looks of it, never. Portuguese ships first.
>>15519401
You can't call the second smartest girl a retard.
>>15518963
Kinu is awesome, how could you get rid of her?
>>15519436
>Ooyodo
>smart
She can't even target enemies properly when the devs force the MVP role to her.
>>15519470
Buy her a new cleaning kit or something.
>>15519504
>Burger gun on Pasta BB
>Pasta gun on Kirishima
How much should I upgrade my ASW gear?
>>15519504
Glasses a shit
A SHIT
I think I'm starting to fall for Makigumo.
>>15519504
She had no choice but to target Central there.
>>15519504
Jesus Christ why does RNG allow shit tastes to win?
Deserved.
>>15519517
She's a daughter, not an object like Asashio.
>>15519504
Your gun choices are retarded.
Also your webm contains nothing what would contradict what that anon said.
Really hope you being a retard is not tied to you liking glasses, but it most likely is.
>>15519524
It could have easily been double scratch damage.
>>15519531
Is Tsu a tsundere?
>>15519539
I want to shoot Makigumo's glasses with a BB gun.
>>15519539
Psychopaths like her don't deserve to be treated as a daughter.
>>15519539
But I want to tie up her sleeves and do lewd things to her.
>>15519539
War crime bitch
>>15519572
>>15519659
Why should a 2,500 lump of steel be held accountable for the actions of its crew?
>>15519575
You're going to have to get past Yuugumo first.
>>15519695
She did nothing to stop it.
>>15519698
But Yuugumo is in love with me. And hates when Makigumo interrupts our alone time.
>>15519695
If you say that then most ships would have no accomplishments at all.
>>15519749
Most of them didn't.
>>15519695
The crew is a metaphor for their brain.
If the crew fucks up, the ship fucked up.
>>15518697
I'm seeing this, now. Can't even make it to the boss anymore.
Will Kamikaze girls be better than Mutsuki girls at being cute and being expedition sluts?
>>15519846
I can't wait to see videos of teitokus clearing events with Kamikaze-class girls.
<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/eynOMbiCRWQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
>>15519886
>>15519846
No way, Kamikaze is an old hag.
>>15519517
Warcrimes a shit. A SHIT.
>>15519997
She's the 2nd most popular gumo for a reason.
>>15520015
I have no idea why. Must be the sleeves but I have never gotten the appeal of that. That just makes me think she is retarded.
>>15519201
I tried to do that with bloatware kai3 and it ended up breaking for some reason.Help. ;_;
>>15520027
Well, I think dumb little girls are cute.
>>15520045
I think Yuugumo and Kagero are cute and sexy.
>>15520027
She has plenty of other appeals for different people, also her voice is very cute.
>>15519469
Like I said, I've never gotten Kinu before.
>>15520059
>voice is very cute.
I guess it could be cute to some people. It's just meh to me. Well it's not like any of the gumos are breakout hits in popularity anyway.
>>15520054
Kagerou
>>15520080
Kageru
what have I done
>>15520098
Same thing as me, my friend.
>>15520098
How many seaplane fighters do you have now?
>>15520098
Used a lot of screws on a plane that's little better than the cheaper pasta equivalent
>>15520027
Because she's been around as long as Yuugumo.
>>15520108
3. I converted a Ro.44 before Pola was added.
>>15520116
That surely explains why she has much more art than Yuugumo or Naganami.
Reminder that it was Makigumo's fault that Pyon was raped by a dog and a light bulb.
>>15520132
Good, that smug rabbit deserves it.
>>15520132
Why? Did she draw it?
>>15520138
Of course. Look at the artist for both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6d6LiAaEu8
Arcade ver. Fujita Saki round 2.
>>15520113
Maybe on Mizuho's big plane slots, but it's hardly anything on Akitsushima.
>>15520118
Same, and that's exactly how many you need for 6-4
>>15520173
>can't even see Akashi building stuff
Slightly disappointed.
>>15520197
I would buy a million figurines if they were handmade by Akashi.
>>15520173
>suddenly subs
