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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit gun for BBs: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me/

Drop and construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net/
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop/
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList

Voices, Sprites, Furniture Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/RyuuKitsune/ElectronicObserver

PS Vita game has officially released: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade has officially released: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp/
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s, https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI and https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA

KanColle Movie trailer: https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E

News:
-Maintenance on the 30th for Asashio's kai 2 remodel and new upgradable equipment through Akashi's Arsenal. Her remodel will be convertible between Kai 2 and Kai 2D.
-The number of players allowed access to the beta has be expanded and a number of graphical fixes to KanColle Android have been resolved.
-One new Mutsuki class ship to be implemented this summer.
-100 new and returning Rainy Season lines have been implemented, along with new seasonal sprites for Hayashimo, Kiyoshimo, Akebono, Yuudachi Kai 2, Mizuho, Yuubari, Mogami, Chitose and Chiyoda, as well as returning sprites, and new and returning furniture.
-Quests have now been split into "Daily", "Weekly", "Monthly", "Once" and "Others" sections. There is also a section to view only active quests. You can still view all quests at a glance in the "All" section.
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>>15464383
The trailer for the movie is looking awful.
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>>15464435
Looks no worse than the game itself.
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Remember to ignore potatohater.
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Kongou sisters gain surprisingly little with their K2s in terms of stats. Haruna only gains two FP from it despite being a level 80 remodel.
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>Ro
>good
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>>15464630
Blaming your own mistakes on your shipgirls is the worst form of kuso.
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There is no better feeling than doing all the last kills of your EOs in one go without retreats or chokes.
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>>15464630
>marrying glasses
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Who?
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>>15464652
That was my 4-5 this month. Pleasant surprise. Got my first Mikuma too
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>>15464630
I got my 2nd Yuu during the event. Once she reaches Lv70. I'm scrapping my Lv99.

The German in my fleet has to be pure Aryans. Not tainted and mentally handicapped
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>>15464722
Stop making fun of Whura
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Her big day is tomorrow lads, how does yours look?

This should be enough for at least K2 I hope.
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>>15464722
I've been wondering if giving a CL 1 15.2cm kai and a CA gun would be better than just 2 CA guns. The accuracy and fit bonus is very tempting.
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>>15464722
Someday they'll give her a K2 and remove that awful hairstyle from her.
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>>15464751
The hair is fine, it's the fish face, terrible rigging and ugly uniform that is wrong with her.
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>>15464764
I agree with everything you've said, except for the hair part.
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>>15464791
Cute, but I wish they made her expressions more alive.
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>>15464751
Her hair isn't going to change with K2 when her sisters didn't.
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>>15464794

She's supposed to be extremely meek and timid when not Kai Ni. Then she changes to the most gallant girl in Kancolle with her second remodel.
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>>15464795
A man can dream.
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>>15464722
Nice to know that somewhere every ship has some weirdo that loves her the most.
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>>15464807
I have never seen a married Natori but have seen 4 married Arare.
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Am I the only one getting a white screen on dmm when using kc3 kai?
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>>15464800

>the most gallant girl in Kancolle

You rang?
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>>15464831

>Arashi's "achievements"
>Jintsuu's achievements
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>>15464824
DMM is having a connection problem now.
https://twitter.com/dmmolg_com/status/747979011440074753
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>>15464842
oh ok
I guess i'll just play android version for now
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>>15464841

>muh searchlight

Jintsuufags are the worst. They just can't accept that their waifu now rests on the trash heap of kancolle history.
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>>15464831
Does being a borderline guy count as gallant?
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>>15464846
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>>15464846
You know it's okay to like both, right?
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>>15464849
Being handsome counts as gallant, no matter the gender.
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>>15464869
>Being handsome counts as gallant

Hell, no.

Adjective

brave, spirited, noble-minded, or chivalrous:
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when I started playing I was going to level up jintsu because I heard she was good, but she seemed boring so I used abukuma instead. I think it ended up being a good choice.
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>>15464858

I assume the irony of posting a pic with Kaga to try to make the guy posting Arashi go away was lost on you.
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>>15464875
>only using one ship in a game called fleet collection
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>>15464877
But Kaga was scuttled by Hagikaze, not Arashi.
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is lv65 enough?
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>>15464727
One of these days this retard meme will die.
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>>15464885
Arashi brought the party.
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>>15464885

Arashi got her sunk by leading the USN to her.
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>>15464885

He's talking about how Arashi guided the SBD Dauntless that sunk Kaga, Akagi and Souryuu toward then. And yeah>>15464877, it was intentional, I did make fun of Arashi's "achievements" in my first post.
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>>15464846
>Jintsuufags are the worst
Still has the highest FP and yasen damage potential, so she's still relevant. In your case however, even Shigurefags would have a field day with you regarding your husbando.

Stop posting cute boys already.

>>15464860
Enjoy your not-above-top-20 rewards.
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>>15464821
Other than some recent trophy DDs I think Natori wins in the unpopularity contest.
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>>15464738
Devs said high remodel level.
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>>15464899
>"achievements"
>quotation marks

Arashi did legitimately kick ass before Midway.
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>>15464908
>>15464738

Are you guys even trying?
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>>15464899
I never knew that is how they fixed Yorktown in time for Midway.
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>>15464920
Life is pretty harsh, you fuck up once and that's all anyone remembers you for until the end of time.
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>>15464920

Oh really? Tell me her awesome stories about kicking ass... what?

http://www.combinedfleet.com/arashi_t.htm
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>>15464920
>Assisted in sinking a Gunboat, an old destroyer, an oiler, a minesweeper, and motorship.
Not as amazing as Ooshio and Asashio.
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>>15464922
No, I don't really like her. She might get scrapped if she can't use daihatsu.
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>>15464927
>Yorktown sank Akagi, Kaga, and Souryu
>No mention of Big E.
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>>15464944
I like her better than Ooshio.
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>>15464938
What did those do again?
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>>15464953
They give godly erections.
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>>15464963
No, that's Kasumi.
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is kasumi the undisputed champion of literally-nobody-cared-before-k2 among kancolles?
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>>15464974
Abukuma.
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>>15464978
But Abukuma hasn't broken 1k submissions on Danbooru despite getting her Kai Ni first.
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>>15464974
that would be literally everyone
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>>15464974

Nobody really cares about Kasumi now, either. She got her fifteen minutes with the rei-go map and that was it. I guess he gets more porn now.
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>>15464974
No, Abukuma. Kasumi had the tsunderefags.
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>>15464974
Abukuma by a mile. So much that Jintsuu was completely abandoned. Some tried to force Kasumi, but even she had some fans before.
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>>15464974

Abukuma, but Kasumi is pretty close. Though nothing will beat Kinu Kai Ni if she ends up as a monster in the meta.
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>>15464985
Cranes have always been very popular, also Akatsuki.
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>>15464953
Read up on the Battle of Badung Strait
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>>15464974
No. Ooshio exists.
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>>15464974
Poi is.
It's just you guys didn't join at that time.
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>>15464984
She had less art to begin with. But yeah, she's actually not that popular art wise.
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>>15465023
Who? Hardly anyone cares about her even now.
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>>15464988
but tsunderefags liked Akebono more
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>>15465053
I want both of them to bully me.
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>>15465053
>unironically liking kusoboner
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>>15465063
>unironically not liking Akebonbon
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>>15465053
They're all different tsun.
Welcome to the depth of tsunderefags,
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>>15465032
Exactly.
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is Houshou useful beside that one monthly quest?
shes just sitting on my fleet.
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>>15465121
She's good enough for some maps, like 1-5. Other than that she's just the cheapest option possible.
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>>15464383
>One new Mutsuki class
>One
How would you know?
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>fully sparkled level 155 CA
>instant taiha by Ta
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>>15465142
>Chokekai
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>>15465142
Levels don't matter
Sparkling is placebo
wwwwwwww
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>>15465162
Considering the severe diminishing returns for higher evasion levels, the increased evasion from sparkling doesn't actually do that much at higher levels.
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>>15465154
You'd love to shit on lovely Choukai, wouldn't you?
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>>15465142
What map made you salty enough to bring lv155 full sparkled CA?
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>>15465191
4-5
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>>15465175
It might help if there's a fuel penalty to evasion under 50% like there is for ammo/firepower, but I don't really know how it works.
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>>15465183
>lovely
>as someone with glasses

Shit taste.
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Is it bad I want to dick Asashio and hope her kai ni will sexualize her hard?
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>>15465240
Not at all.
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>>15464974
>kancolles
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>>15465232
Take away the glasses and she's an improved Haruna.
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>>15465288
You can't improve perfection.
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>>15465299
But you can improve Haruna.
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>>15465299
She can start by not saying daijoubu every time.
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>>15465306
She says it once.
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>>15465308
why is it a meme then?
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>>15465370
People make the stupidest things into a meme.

Remember back when "a winrar is you!" and "Ima chargin' ma lazor" were both memes?
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Will there ever be a hard mode option for regular maps?
>Abyssal level set to 99
>loadouts designed for day time air denial
>flagship/kai grade ships
>use of best equipment
>AP shell and torpedo bulge is default on BBs
>flagship is level 155 by default
>random chance to have upgraded equipment, including planes
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>>15465408
Just wait for 2-6 and 6-5.
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>>15465308
She says it once but you hear it a thousand times, that's the curse of a secretarial line.
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>>15465370
nips are biggest memers than westernshits, you know kinda like that one suzuya line makes her the slut of the fleet, etc
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>>15465420
>you know kinda like that one suzuya line makes her the slut of the fleet
Just that one line? She talks like a 3D High School Student all the time.
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>>15465420
Honestly, that fits her image better than anything.
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>>15465420
More like RJ having major breast envy even though it's not mentioned in any lines.
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>>15464995
I use kinu as my secondary light cruiser. her valentines day and white day lines were funny.
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Will there be time to do 5-5 after the maintenance tomorrow or should i do it today
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>>15465408
Rather than obscure rulings I'd like hard mode-tier enemy compositions and different branching for regular maps.
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What if we had maps with different routing depending on the day?
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>>15465551
You should stop posting, you're drunk.
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>>15465551
You mean getting routed to transports on carrier quest days and carriers on transport days?
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>>15465531
Obviously you should do it now.
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Guys guys.

Yũgumo.
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and here am I still working on Kasumi K2
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It's happening again.
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>>15465639
as for me i scraped her a month ago thinking she would never get her kai 2.
ain't that fucking great?
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>>15465684
That will teach you not to scrap non-dupes.
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>>15464922
yeah
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>>15465377
Why are stupid hats allowed? It's neither Touhou nor Team Fortress, I don't want to see cute designs of my shipladies soiled by dumb-looking hats. Worst offenders:
Zara
Pola
Maya
Chokekai (also wears worst glasses in the whole game)
Ooshio (pre-kai 2, second remodel fixes this).
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>>15465788
Just go
>a fucking hat
and move on.
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>>15464892
But i geniunely hated Ro. She is a retard just like all subs. What's worse is that she is not Aryan anymore.

This is not a meme. This is pure feeling from me
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>>15464892
>its a meme because i cant accept facts
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>>15464727
>The German in my fleet has to be pure Aryans. Not tainted and mentally handicapped
>Not tainted and mentally handicapped
>mentally handicapped

So you scrapped all your nazis, huh? Good job anon, keep it up. Oh, and base U is retarded, make sure to scrap her extra hard.
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>>15464727
Youu is the most mentally handicapped girl in whole fleet. Maybe with the exception of Haruna.
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>>15465121
She did great on 2-3 Ooshio quest.
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>>15464908
[citation needed]
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>>15465121
I use her in 4-1.
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>>15464922
I am
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>>15464922
Yeah, I'm trying.
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someone give me a 5-5 that just werks
only 24hrs left
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>>15466270
Adding Iwai bomber for last dance should work just perfectly iirc.
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>>15464922
>no ring
kuso
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>>15466288
>not celebrating her kai ni with ringing her
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>>15466274
I had to night battle, and I lost 2x the amount of bauxite I remember spending back in February, but otherwise, thanks
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>>15464974
I still think Kasumi is a cunt. Her K2 doesn't help in the slightest.
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>>15465306
Then she can continue by not having the translator leave the name Haruna when she is refering to herself
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>>15466309
At least she became cuter.
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>>15466304
Sounds like a rather bad run. At least yasen is just a formality with Hotels unlike fBBs who struggle to seriously harm Wo Kai.
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>>15466312
Haruna isn't the only problem, a lot of characters share the same fate.

What's up with translators refusing to translate someone who uses her name to refer to herself to 'I' or 'Me'?
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>>15465499
Blame the 4koma.
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>>15466312
>>15466335
When translating the speech of someone who speaks in third person, it's only common sense to retain third person dialogue in the translation.
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>>15466335
I think a lot of translators go with it because they think it preserves more information and insecure translators always go for maximal literalism.

Going from cute-sounding in Japanese to retarded-sounding in English isn't THAT far off, though. Maybe. Not really.
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>>15465877
>not Aryan anymore

And Kancolle fans wonder why haters accuse them of Axis apologism.
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That was a fucking painful remodel. Will being sober increase her accuracy any?
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>>15466353
Don't tell me you used her guns on her.
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>>15466358
Of course not, I used a 20.3 (2) and (3) and she still couldn't hit anything. I think she only got MVP maybe twice.
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>>15466353
>Pola
>sober
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>>15466315
looks like you were right
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>>15466367
Beautiful.
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Random my ass. The game knows.
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>>15466380
You have less than an hour before reset.
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>>15466388
I'm pretty sure I still have almost a whole day. Half of that will be maint but it only starts in 12 hours.
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>>15466388
??
It is only 29th today
Are you from the future?
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>>15466353
My Pola works fine.
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How many points should be made for 500th ranking? You will only have 2 hours left after maintenance.
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>>15466425
Depends on server and your current rank and points.
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>>15466425
bout three fiddy
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fuck it i'll just advance on red
only carrying drums anyways
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>>15466440
This will end in tears.
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>>15466440
Get fucked.
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>>15466440
This is the sign of a desperate little man who will not make it to top 500.
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>>15466425
>newfag servers
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH
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>>15466440
ok
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>>15466440
(You)
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>>15466450
>Hashirajima
What the fuck, they got their shit together fast.
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>>15466348
Not for functional people. It make them sound retard or Incredible Hulk.
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>>15466472
Weebs are already used to this being verbal tic, you're dramatizing.
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>>15466450
No wonder I'm not a gensui anymore. Fuck.
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>>15466450
do those people buy resources
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>>15466480
They're hedge fund kiddies that can buy up hardcap resources without thinking about it.
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>>15466472

Talking in 3rd person isn't even normal in Japan. It's a childish trait used for cutesy and moe in characters so it's intentional. In real life it sounds to japanese as artificial as it sounds to us, specially when a grown up person does it.
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>>15466480
You can definitely rank without buying resources. I can easily hit T500 while still hitting 300k 3k bucket cap.
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>>15466478
>Japanese game which block gaijins
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there aren't usually delays on small maintenances like this one right? Just event right?
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>100 senka points until top 100

Fug
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i think of buy resources same as buy fast food
when you go on expedition to get resource it is like you are cook the food
when you buy the resource from the cs you are like buy burger king or the kfc
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>>15466497
>implying that anything in japan could be considered normal
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>5-5
>HP all green (no shouha's)
>go to boss
>Green Tea
>C rank
I guess I should just quit
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>>15466512
Can you use proper English please?
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>>15466429
>>15466450

I am at Rabaul, 380th with 1820 pts.
The 500th of this server is 1717.
Now I just got more 84 pts. Is it enough?
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>>15466545
Should be but note down how things look in three hours.
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>>15466549
When I know that, it will be just 2 hours left for ranking.
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>>15466545
Just keep going until maintenance, a few more hours wont hurt and it's better than finding out you got nothing.
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>>15466555
Uhh, what? Ranking only ends 22 hours from now.
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is around 1700 enough for ringa?
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>>15466562
Oh wait, I mean, I will have 2 hours after maintenance. Damn. I really need to sleep.
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>>15466514
You're a moron. 3D Japan is more normalfag than the West ever will be. Its why life in 3D Japan is so depressing.
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>>15466514
Only a few of very small children do it. And even then it sounds artificial.
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>>15466348
>>15466497
You think anime/manga/game characters are supposed to sound exactly like real people? You're a fucking idiot. Translating third person into first person is a general standard for official and fan translations since third person gives completely different impressions to fans in each language.
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>>15466803
If anyone is a fucking idiot it would be you because even to me, a bystander, it's clear you didn't understand posts you're replying to.

You also don't know shit about how M&A works.
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>>15466803
>standard
I wonder how many manga did you read. 15? 20?
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>>15466807
Don't backpedal and pretend to be someone else. Your entire argument is that you want third person English because real life adults in Japan don't normally use third person. If you give up on that, you're admitting >>15466348 is wrong and >>15466497 is completely irrelevant to what it was replying to.
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>>15466816
>Don't backpedal and pretend to be someone else.
I'm not doing that, retard.

>Your entire argument is that you want third person English because real life adults in Japan don't normally use third person.
Don't speak on behalf of other people because you're clearly too stupid to comprehend anyone's thought process. Are you by any chance potato-hater's older brother who knows how to use Shift?

Oh, and stop being so angry, there's no reason for that.
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>>15466824
I'm not speaking on behalf of anyone; I'm confronting you with your own words. You've replied with nothing of substance, just vague denials, and you're getting upset because you got caught posting nonsense.
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>>15466834
You're confronting me with YOUR twisted meaning of someone else's words.

The fact you're unable to comprehend that someone else might join in only confirms your stupidity.
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>>15466836
If you were someone else, you wouldn't be contradicting yourself by insisting on your own interpretation of "someone else's" words, and you'd have some sort of explanation instead of a bunch of empty raging.
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>>15466842
>you wouldn't be contradicting yourself by insisting on your own interpretation of "someone else's" words
What.
Where am I contradicting myself?

You're the one who is emptily raging so I simply told you off.
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>>15466844
I just told you where you're contradicting yourself. Try reading the posts you reply to. You ignored the original point and threw a tantrum over being called an idiot, which proves you're taking it personally.
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>>15466848
I'm not taking anything personally, I'm just disgusted by the fact someone like you is allowed to post publicly.
Your whole point is based on me being one of those people, it's faulty by definition. You're the one who's an idiot because you're unable to comprehend something as simple. But okay, I'll reply to your initial post in more detail.

>You think anime/manga/game characters are supposed to sound exactly like real people?
None of them is implying that you strawmanning retard.

>You're a fucking idiot.
Nice argument, retard. Especially since it's based on wrong assumption. (hint: that's why I said you're the one who is a fucking idiot)
By the way, you're a fucking hypocrite with your
>You've replied with nothing of substance, just vague denials, and you're getting upset
>you'd have some sort of explanation instead of a bunch of empty raging
>You ignored the original point and threw a tantrum over being called an idiot, which proves you're taking it personally.

>Translating third person into first person is a general standard for official and fan translations
It isn't, you goddamn newshit. Try reading some manga. I read >200 and translating third person speech in third person is a common practice.
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Repu
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>>15466858
>It isn't, you goddamn newshit. Try reading some manga. I read >200 and translating third person speech in third person is a common practice.


Not that guy, but isn't it a common practice that is wrong in general? Most pros translate it to first person. What compels the fan translations to massively do the opposite?
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>>15466867
Yeah but it is a common practice nonetheless so that guy is outright wrong and it's clear he has no idea about M&A. Just some stuck up faggot who got lost and came upon this thread.

>What compels the fan translations to massively do the opposite?
This guy explained it well: >>15466350
Most of fan translators aren't pros and prefer literal style. It sounds worse but there's much lower chance of fuck up.
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>>15466867

imo, fan translations are done for people that usually know the implications of third person while refering to oneself as well as a lot of unusual speech patterns present in anime/manga/etc.

Pros do translations for any Joe that may grab the manga in an bookstore and start reading
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I like the music that plays in the background when you have this furniture set.
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There's no single picture out there depicting Ayanami K2 with her hair down.
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>>15466894
Why?
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>>15466894
It's her limiter
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>>15466803
>>15466803
>You think anime/manga/game characters are supposed to sound exactly like real people? You're a fucking idiot.
You think translating dialogue of anime/manga/game characters will suddenly make them sound exactly like real people? You're a fucking idiot.

>Translating third person into first person is a general standard for official and fan translations
Official translations maybe. But fan translations? Nah.

And besides I've learned not to trust official translations unless the translator has accumulated experience doing trustworthy fan translations. Many official translations fuck up a lot of things.

>since third person gives completely different impressions to fans in each language.
And that would be the fault of official translators to begin with. The trend is changing, slowly but surely.
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>>15466905
There should be an Ayanami B with her hair down that would be stronger but more expensive to sortie.
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>>15466858
You say you're not taking it personally, but you've been freaking out and posting nothing but a furious stream of insults the whole time. Now that you're at least trying, I'll address your points.

>None of them is implying that you strawmanning retard.
>>15466497 is clearly saying he thinks third person English should be used because "In real life it sounds to japanese as artificial as it sounds to us, specially when a grown up person does it." By the way, you should've used especially.

>Nice argument
That was an insult, not an argument. The argument was in the rest of the post, and I'll restate it for clarity: 1. Anime/manga/game characters aren't supposed to sound exactly like real people do, so the way real people speak doesn't determine how character lines should be translated. 2. The general standard is to translate third person into first person. 3. Third person gives completely different impressions to fans in each language.

>Try reading some manga.
Take your own advice. Official translations consistently use first person by default. Fan translations are more varied since a number of them are done by people who barely speak English or are retranslating from third languages, but using first person is still the dominant practice. If you want to dispute this, let's use the official 4koma as a case study. List some examples from that of characters other than Haruna referring to themselves in the third person when a normal English speaker would've used the first person form.
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>>15466549
Now I am at 350th (1912+), while current 500th is 1790pts. It's 120pts different, is this safe?
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>>15466915
>1. Anime/manga/game characters aren't supposed to sound exactly like real people do, so the way real people speak doesn't determine how character lines should be translated.
And yet you want people to translate third person to first person. Are you saying that real people speak in third person?
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>>15466915
What he said doesn't mean he wants "anime/manga/game characters are supposed to sound exactly like real people".

1. Nobody is arguing that and you're awfully wrong by thinking otherwise and trying to sound smart by talking about it
2. Not among fan translations
3. Yeah but it's irrelevant because people interested in M&A know what it means.

>Official translations consistently use first person by default.
I didn't say a single thing about official translations as I don't really care about them because they're 99% irrelevant due to being slow.

>but using first person is still the dominant practice
Good joke.

>If you want to dispute this, let's use the official 4koma as a case study. List some examples from that of characters other than Haruna referring to themselves in the third person when a normal English speaker would've used the first person form.
>I read a single manga and I will extrapolate its translation on thousands of other manga
Just wow.
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>it's another autistic argument episode
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>>15466935
I really don't want to take part in half of those but rarely other people are willing to do so and it hurts to look at people being wrong in threads I like.
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>>15466921
A-anyone?
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>>15466921
>>15466949
No, it isn't safe.
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>>15466921
I think it should be safe. There are 8 hours left until maint and there will be 3 hours after it (?) so people would have to gain >10 points per hour meaning they would have to rank all this time. I doubt it will happen.
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>>15466954
>私の疲れを見抜いたのですね…提督、ありがとうございます。お休みしますね。
It's telling that this is my favourite line from Haruna just because it's the only one where she uses watashi.
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STRONG.
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>>15466950
>>15466960
OK. I will sleep for a while then.
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I fucking hate it when the same ship keeps being targeted repeatedly.
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>>15466939
Hahahaha nigga just walk away from the screen like nigga close your eyes nigga haha.

But seriously, why bother going to all that effort anyway? You'd get more peace of mind just ignoring it than the miniscule satisfaction you would gain in the near impossible chance that you manage to clearly and decisively win an internet argument.
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>>15466911
>You think translating dialogue of anime/manga/game characters will suddenly make them sound exactly like real people? You're a fucking idiot.
I said the exact opposite. Learn to read. They're supposed to sound like fictional characters, not real life people.

>And that would be the fault of official translators to begin with.
Did you learn English by reading translated manga? They give different impressions because they're used differently by natives.

>>15466923
In western fiction, the third person is commonly used the way >>15466472 described. Haruna isn't supposed to sound like the Incredible Hulk. Fans found that misuse of the third person so bizarre they turned it into a meme and spent years making fun of it. She should sound like a cutesy cartoon girl instead of the Hulk.
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>>15466976
I'd like to know as well. I just can't help it.

Okay, I'll try to restrain myself next month. No. I WILL restrain myself. Wish me luck, anon.
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>>15466974
My Maya was being targeted by every ship in J node at 4-3 earlier. 4 times in a row and they all fired at her exclusively. Fucking J node.
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>>15466983
>Haruna isn't supposed to sound like the Incredible Hulk.
But she does.
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>>15466932
That post was using real life people as a basis to disagree with the guy who was against leaving things in the third person. If he didn't think they're supposed to sound like real people, he had no point.

>2. Not among fan translations
>I read a single manga
The official 4koma is the most relevant example for this thread. It was translated on this site, so it'll follow practices which are standard here. If you want to count thousands of other manga, go do that right now and come back with your research paper. I'll be happy to read your report with a large sample size.
>3. Yeah but it's irrelevant because people interested in M&A know what it means.
An incorrect translation which can be deciphered by most of the target audience is still wrong. For example, it's not translating if you leave some lines in Japanese (without even using notes) because you expect fans to know some Japanese.
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>>15466994
Haruna smash
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>>15466983
You're fucking delusional if you think the writers take "western fiction" into account.
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>>15466988
Take it easy anon
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I summon thee
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>>15467001
Wikiafag translators butchered a lot more than Haruna smash.
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>>15466999
>no point
Calm down. He simply offered more information on the subject. People in the thread aren't divided into two groups with completely opposite opinions. Trying to segregate them like that will only lead to shitflinging which you started and I continued while other people simply ignored the subject because they no longer wanted to have anything to do with it after it took this aggressive turn.

>so it'll follow practices which are standard here
Precisely why it is an awful example. Vast majority of manga aren't translated by anons. And you were talking about manga in general. If you weren't, you forgot to specify that and it's your fault.

>3.
Yeah but it's how things have been since forever. You're behaving like someone who started reading manga this year and wants to save the world. As our Aniplex of America overlords said, "just because you're right doesn't mean you're correct". Or was it the other way around?
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Maybe Haruna is just slow like she said in the anime.
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>>15467022
In feudal Japan, noblewomen and samurai typically referred to themselves in the third person when talking to their lords.
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>>15466894
Worth asking somebody on some drawthread of /a/.
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Will it still be rainy season after this update? I haven't had time this month to play so I need to farm coins for that floor.
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>>15467052
No, Summer will start.
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This thread needs some best Asashio class
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>>15467091
Why is she pretending to be a SS?
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>>15467095
Subs are the biggest and lewdest sluts.
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how many 6 and 7 range planes do you think I need to be safe for the next event?
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>>15467144
If you have all the bombers and interceptors from the event, you have enough. What you should be worried about is having more fighters in case supercharged CV Hime, CV Water Hime or Wo kai 4 is spammed on the boss node.
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>>15467144
range doesn't matterww
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>>15467038
Yea I thought the whole point of her personality was a soft spoken overly polite girl. It makes sense she would use a more formal way of speaking, especially to her TTK.
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Arashio is truly a fearsome girl.
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