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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit gun for BBs: http://i.imgur.com/j9p0mL4.png

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me/

Voices, Sprites, Furniture Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer

PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA

KanColle Movie trailer: https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E

News:
-The Spring 2016 event has ended.
-100 new and returning Rainy Season lines have been implemented, along with new seasonal sprites for Hayashimo, Kiyoshimo, Akebono, Yuudachi Kai 2 and Mizuho, as well as returning sprites, and new and returning furniture.
-3 new quests have been added, one of which rewards a furniture fairy.
-Those who unlocked E6 before the May 5 maintenance have been given a T1 Land Bomber Model 22A. Those who had unlocked E6 by May 4, before the bugs were first announced, have also been given a special furniture.
-All players have also been given an apology scroll as well as hydrangea wallpaper and floor furniture.
-Uzuki and Akashi's drop rates have returned to normal.
-The fit gun bonus for 35.6cm twin and triple mounts on Kongou-class has been buffed.
-Land-based planes can now be locked/unlocked when going to the "Others" section in the equipment screen.
-A section showing equipment currently being equipped by other ships has been added to the equipment screen, where you can transfer equipment from other ships to the current ship.
-Asashio will get her Kai 2 the maintenance after the next.
-Android lottery results are out. 250k winners will be able to access the port when it comes out during the June 10 update.
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First for less lewd and more cute pics. This is not a brothel.
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最後の改二艦種別まとめ

駆逐…江風(2016年4月22日)
正空…瑞鶴(2015年10月30日)
軽巡…阿武隈(2015年7月17日)
重巡…加古(2015年6月12日)
航戦…山城(2014年11月20日)
戦艦…Bismarck(2014年9月26日)
軽空…隼鷹(2014年8月29日)
航巡…利根、筑摩(2014年4月23日)

DD colle indeed.
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>>15355026
Stop discriminating against us!
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>>15355079
No one cares about slaves.
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>>15355026
Its becoming harder to care about Kai 2s these days.
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>>15355026
>>15355079
There's Ro.

>>15355084
I do.
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>>15355079
Don't worry, the golden age of subs is still going to come. I bet it'll even be before the golden age of BBVs.
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What went wrong?
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>>15354776
Paramushir here, anyone else having trouble connecting to the game? Game doesn't even seem to load.
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Cute cowtit ships
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>>15355297
Nothing, she found happiness when I ringed her.
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>>15355313
This is not cute.
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>>15355330
Iowa is very cute!
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>>15355352
Sexy yes, cute no.
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>>15355297
Nothing. All is right in the world.
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>Roma
>Amagi
>Ooshio
Who should I give my next blueprint to lads?
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>>15355675
Which one do you like the most? If "none, I'm a filthy statwhore" - Ooshio.
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>>15355675
The one that gives you an extra daihatsu.
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>>15355675
Ooshio > Roma > Amagi
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>>15355675
If you haven't remodeled Littorio yet then Roma, pasta equipment is too good to pass on.
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>>15355352
She is a walking sex slave, nothing more.
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So Asagumo and Michishio were just memes?
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>>15355711
The only blueprint ships I haven't remodeled are the 3 I mentioned, Taigei, and Bisko.
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>>15355675
Roma, then Ooshio, then Amagi.

Unless you plan to rank.

>>15355807
Great wife.
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>>15355297
She got the D
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>>15355831
>implying she didn't just take the D
She ain't spiking your food for nothing, anon.
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>>15355814
What the fuck does your post mean? Can you speak like a human being?
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Finally, only missing Ooyodo for the auxiliary ships for now.
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>>15355852
Ooyodo is a light cruiser.
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After reading up on it I'm hoping Iowa never ever gets a remodel based on her '84 refit because that was just a complete blunder from beginning to end. Kinda embarassing to see her name thrown around in the dirt like that really.
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Damn Krauts.
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>>15355860
What's so bad about it? She got missiles and shit.
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>>15355868
Yeah, she blows.

Is like the American Mutsu.
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>>15355855
Yeah, my bad. For some reason I think of her as auxiliary ship because of her usefulness.
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How much luck is it reasonable to have for torpedo DD?

>>15355890
She was the most usefull CL during spring event.
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>>15355904
At least 50.
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>>15355904
40~60 if just a torpedo DD.
Equal to luck cap if waifu.
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>>15355887
Are you saying there were inherent faults in the refit that caused the turret explosion, or?
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>>15355861
>>15355887
Hey, remember when Mutsu exploded and the Japanese admiraly put the blame on some poor bastard who conveniently died in the accident and had no way of defending himself because they couldn't admit the technical shortcomings of their battleships? Boy, these barbaric japanese sure are silly! This would never have happened aboard a United States Navy ship!
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3 Kaga drops today, But I still have no Hiryuu :(

At least they're good AA mod fodder.
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>>15355904
I can say from own experience that 40 is only enough with Skilled Lookouts. Go for 60.
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>>15355904
50 if the cap for torpedo only cut-in. 60 for mixed gun and torpedo loadout.
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>>15355951
Anon, stop living in the cave.
It's well known fact 60 is the cap for torp cut-in.
Higher cap is 70+, for flagship with mixed cut-in.
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Crafted my second Yamato right before I finally got Bismarck.

Any point levelling her up to Kai?
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>>15356005
To upgrade your 51cms
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>>15356005
You can use up to 4 Yamatos
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>>15355860
But we'll need the Tomahawks to use against all the installation-type bosses the devs are sure to toss at us in the future.

>>15355887
Her sisters never suffered an identical disaster despite getting the same refit. Your argument is invalid.
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>If you're using Satsuki for combat you have better things to worry about than her HP.

So what should I worry about?
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>>15355918
Accidental powder explosions are a bitch.
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>>15355918
In Iowa's case they at least reopened the investigation.
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>>15356051
Her firepower, torpedo and armor.

Satsuki has great miscellaneous stats but her standard combat stats suck.
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>>15356055

Bet some brass in the USN can't wait til railguns become operational to bring battleships back without having them explode spontaneously every thursdays.
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>>15355918
IIRC, it wasn't a problem with the ship's design but with improper storage of munitions, particularly Type 3 shells.
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>>15356065
Zumwalt?
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>>15355918
Man that is a big turret though.
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>>15356093
For you.
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>>15356061
Easier to reopen an investigation when the entire ship hasn't exploded, the government hasn't collapsed, and all the paperwork hasn't been put to the torch in preparation for occupation.
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>>15356091
Why is this thing suddenly being mentioned in each thread? Was it only commissioned few days ago?
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>>15356097
You forgot the most important part. It wasn't wartime.
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>>15356099
Well this time it was the mention of railguns.
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>>15355026
>>15355087
Why do people say this? The DDs alone outnumber every other unremodeled class combined.
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>>15356091
Zumwalts are so ugly, I hate them.

Really hoping that radar stealth crap turns out out to be bullshit and USN goes back to ships that actually look like ships, cause putting a railgun on those horrors would be such a waste of a cool concept
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>>15355918

>Turret explodes
>Don't replace it with a flight deck

Foolish Americans.
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>>15356162
You couldn't launch a plane from the 15 meters space between the bridge and the A turret of an Iowa class no matter how hard your tried
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>>15356171
Jack of all trades are always crap anyway. Just look at Graf and the Ise-class.
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>>15356162
>Foolish Americans

We are talking about the sama Americans that though that BBs were still useful after the WW2, right?

Guess some merchant got good money for the refits, maintenance and fuel.
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>>15356093
Fucking big.
This is just 1 barrel.
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>>15356196
The Russians still use battlecruisers.
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>>15356209
They do? Thought all their people's fleet rusted.

Anyways, Russians aren't the best example as not being fools.
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>>15356209
>battlecruisers
Stop deliberately misleading people.
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>>15356209
These aren't battlecruisers anon. Battlecruiser implies big guns.
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>>15356235
>>15356226
Well they are really oversized Missile cruisers.
Kirov-class battlecruiser
Apparently they are getting refitted again.
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>>15355933
where are you farming her? I figure I'll get one eventually trying to make taiho.
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Are you people sure Akashi level doesn't affect upgrade success? I've been upgrading duck guns and only failed twice at +7 out of 4 guns. Also upgraded the night scout and didn't fail at all.
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>>15356264
>Only got 7 CVLs when trying for Taiho.
>Taiho just appeared during Japan downtime.
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>>15356270
Only thing that matters is if Akashi is kai or not
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>>15356264

Was doing 3-3 and 4-4 runs, got 2 of them back to back.
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>>15356296

Speaking of, my daily construction got me my fourth Souryuu, I really need to just level the fuck out of my spares and drop them so they stop eating up slots.
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>>15356270
While we are on it, whether the Akashi is sparkled or not and whether she's resupplied or not matter as well.
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>>15355297
She had whiskey.
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>>15356375
>whether the Akashi is sparkled or not

Hold the fuck on. Source on this?
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Welp, KCV runs like ass while HoI4 is running as well.
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>>15356375

You better start talking son. I'm sparkling my Akashi for this new placebo meme just in case
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>>15356415
That better be the Field Marshall edition goy.
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>>15356375
I don't know, she's always been at 100 morale through PvP.
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>>15356568
Why would you level her past 35?
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>>15356582
Why wouldn't you?
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>>15355330
>>15355379
>>15355777
How can you not find this smile cute?
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Why can't I beat 6-3?
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>>15356594
Mine is lv99.

She's still gonna make three trips to 1-1 to be extra safe.
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>>15356582
Because level 90 is the optimal level for everybody.
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>>15356622

Well what fleet are you using?
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>>15356639
ABKM, Ooshio, Ayanami, Yuudachi, Kasumi, Mizuho

4-5 ships taiha on the boss node
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>>15356648
Use a proper CL like Kuma.
You probably have mediocre levels and eq. I remember that map being somewhat easy.
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>>15356648
ABKM sucks for 6-3. The opening torp only shoots once and lacks the punch to even properly damage over half of the enemies while someone like jintsuu can do some real damage twice with artillery spotting while also carrying a night scout
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>>15356407
>>15356535
Source is fresh right from his ass.
I don't mind if that's really the case though, my Akashi is permanently 100 from pvp.
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>>15356662
Opening torp is perfectly fine, though.
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>>15356687
It isn't needed though and it's better to use ships you like.
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dude nice
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Trying LSC for Akitsumaru. Got any recommended numbers?

I usually only do two and then wait for the end of another event then do another two, but she keeps on getting good routing, so I'm feeling compelled to keep trying.
Just now ended up getting a second Taihou instead.
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Does Nagato have a good drop rate from 2-4 boss?
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>>15356920
Do LSC if you want a Nagato.
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>>15356926
Default recipe?
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>>15356698
but I like abukuma
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10418080

please respond
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>try to craft nagato
>Katori pops up

Fuck tanaka and fuck this game
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>>15356920
No.
Besides, what kind of lunatic would farm 2-4? Like 50 tries just for the compass to decide it's boss time.
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Cute.
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>>15356920
Lots of drop and construction statistics from these two sites:

http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop/
http://kancolle-db.net/

Just do LSC for other ships if you want Nagato, you'll probably get one as a failure.
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Speaking of 6-3, I think I got this.
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>>15357069
Do you want the short or the long answer?
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>>15357026
This can easily be shooped into the pregnancy test.
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>>15357153
Why would you impregnate Yayoi?
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>>15356064
Indeed, but unfortunately she is in the second-string lineup of tank-compatible ships, where you save Bep/Kasumi for later maps.
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>>15356196
>We are talking about the sama Americans that though that BBs were still useful after the WW2, right?

I dunno, Iowa and her sisters certainly pulled their weight in Korea, and Wisconsin and Missouri did fair business in Desert Storm.
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>>15357026
I just noticed this is by Mutsuki's artist.
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>>15356196
>>15357294
It was mostly due to the Cold War, were the US anticipated a conflict with the Soviets so they needed all the ships they build/ could get a hold of. The Iowa class was one of them. The psychological impact of those 16 inch shells is a plus factor unmatched even by missiles. During the Gulf War, an Iraqi unit surrendered to a spotting drone of USS Wisconsin after witnessing the effects of USS Missouri's previous shellings.
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>>15357026
>>15357311
K2 CONFIRMED
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>>15356537
It's a pirated Field Marshal edition :^)
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>>15357362
>pirated
Goy please, there is still time to buy HoI4.
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should I use support for the last kill? I don't think I can handle double ta.
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>>15357457
If you want to waste resources.
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>>15357469
if it's coming down to getting lucky with the last shot with one ta how am I going to deal with two?
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>>15357520
Use Kitakami.
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>>15357069
45 buckets later, I can't believe Mochizuki hit the boss and Akatsuki finished Harusame off.
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>>15357325
What the fuck is wrong with Americans keeping Constitution in commission for ridiculous ceremonies. Make her into a Museum on land already or something. Let that old girl rest already.
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>>15357546
No.
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>>15357026
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>>15357546
Ships are more happy on the water though.
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>going to swap out Katori for Hiyou in fleet
>Didn't realise I went to the modernise page
>Accidentally modernise Katori using Hiyou who was a level away from Kai
>Only realise right as I hit yes what I did
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>>15357627
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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>>15357627
If only there was something that prevented ships from showing up in the modernization page, right?
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>>15357655
I think I need to go to bed

I'm obviously tired if I clicked through 2 screens without realising I wasn't doing what I wanted to do
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>>15357660
Never play this game while tired.
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>>15357671
I never once lost focus while playing events after more than 24 hours of uptime. You're just being retarded.
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>>15357682
Why am I retarded for telling someone not to play this game when they're tired?

Especially when it's not uncommon for people to post about the mistakes they made whilst playing tired.
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>>15357690
You can be tired all you want, but focusing on the screen with few left clicks and all in-game functions memorized like a mechanical clockwork are simple enough. This isn't rocket science.
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>>15357695
Holy shit this retard. Fatigue reduces your focus. That's the thing that's not rocket science.
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>>15357695
I don't really care how simple you think this is. People still make these mistakes, as >>15357627, >>15357660 has shown.
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>>15357660
Lock your fucking ships, what do you think the heartlock does?
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>>15357709
Fatigue does reduces your focus, but when it comes to just playing a boat simulation game when you only use a goddamn left click to do all the things, committing such newbie mistakes makes you retarded, and you only have to blame but yourself.
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>>15357695
>Why it has to have foolproof concept in this world
You're overestimating people.
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>>15356698
>use ships you like
>posts elite fleet
Not to mention that using non-elites for 6-3 makes it that much harder.

>>15356926
Minimum.
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>>15357731
It happens to newbies. It isn't because they are retarded, it because they aren't as experienced/robotic as you are in clicking. That's why the "Never play this game while tired." is an effective advice, it is aimed toward newfags who do stupid mistakes. If you know what you are doing then you should not care about that advice in the first place.
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Virtually swimming in Kirishima drops today, which feels odd since she was by far the hardest kongou for me to obtain.
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>>15357769
That's the thing, giving advice to newbies grinds my gears when the OP of the threads redirects you to read the wiki, rendering it useless and promotes only spoonfeeding.
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Guys help. My Fubuki turned into this.
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I fucked up.
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>>15357812
>muh elite

I might as well read a wiki with over a thousand pages front to back before I play the game shouldn't I?

Stop sperging out because someone made a mistake.
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>>15357837
Shibafu's art is comfy.
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>>15357731
>boat
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>>15357842
Not him but I did that because I didn't have much to do while waiting for the lottery.

There's a lot less incentive to do that now that there's no more lottery.
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>>15357862
>both not even kai'd
Madman.
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>>15357862
get this yuri off my board
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>>15357862
But why are they not even kai?
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>>15357862
>>15357901

Wait, is this pairing a thing? Why?
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>>15357901
Too preserve their purity
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>>15357912
But none of the kanmusu are pure to begin with.
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>>15357910
Something about Kiso's captain misidentifying Maruyu and questioning whether it was really a submarine.
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>>15357910
It's pretty gay but mostly cute. There is something special about a masculine girl caring for a frail shrimp.
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Why is this allowed?
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>only the 7th of the month
>top 500 is over 800 points

Every time I rank I swear to god
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>>15358037
Whoops, ranking just updated.
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>>15358037
I don't see why not.
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>>15358074
Assuming +50/day, you are looking at 2k points minimum.
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I guess it was worth it.
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>>15358116
Good, I hope your live blogging is done for good this time.
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>>15358116
>implying they won't choke
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>>15358112

I was going to go for top 100 but it'll probably be over 3k and I just can't be arsed.

Fuck Saiki.
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>>15358116
Congrats faggot.

>tfw did it with 6SS and it was so easy I barely even remmeber it
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>>15358120
since you enjoyed it so much I'll be back later when I try the 3-5 and 5-1 quests I've been sitting on.

>>15358126
maya-sama sniped ta and then finished off the transport with her closing torpedo.
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>>15358116
:^)
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>>15358161
how did you get your whobukis to survive?
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>>15354795
This is a cute pic anon.
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3FBB 3CV or 2FBB 4CV for 5-5?
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>>15358234
The latter.
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>>15358234
Use the Hotels and Museum with a CVL.
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Who's museum?
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>>15358250

Fuck off Re
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>>15358259
Iowa.
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>>15358259
We don't have Mikasa so who else could it be?
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>>15358273
Thought as much, but weren't we calling her burgers? Well museum is still a fitting name
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>>15358280
>we
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>>15358263
Too expensive for you or something?
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>>15358250
>>15358263
Just what I used last month.
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>>15358292

I know you just want to fuck Junyou right in the pussy, I can see through your lies.
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>do PvP
>forget to activate the quest
I can imagine Ooyodo laughing internally while she says nothing. She can't even let it slide for one day.
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>>15358330
I am Ooyodo and I confirm that's true.
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>>15358300

>almost 900 ammo per sortie

okay
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akashi failed to upgrade my 12.7 twice in a row now. 4 screws wasted on an upgrade that was a waste to begin with. I'm too stubborn to use the slider so I'll probably just keep failing until I'm out of screws.
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>>15358473
Yuudachi's gun? I've been thinking about upgrading it since I don't really feel like farming Akizuki during events and have enough to get 2 to max. I just wish the 120mm was allowed to be upgraded already.
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>>15358471
It's over 1000 if you yasen at the boss.
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>>15358506
I had a standard 12.7 at +10 that I upgraded when I first got akashi and didn't know what to do with her. I thought that since I finally had a good amount of screws I could afford to use 3 to turn it into a second poi gun, but I was too stingy to use the slider. now I'm down the 6 screws already and I'm too butthurt to use the slider so it could end up costing me 12 or even more.
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>>15358516
>not just farming poi guns
>wasting screws on vanilla 12.7cms
Shiggy diggy doo

2 more on the way once Harusame and Kawakaze get to level 30.
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>>15358516

>a second poi gun
>second

I hate to break it to you newfriend but upgrading DD guns besides ducky guns is a complete waste of screws.
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>>15358526
>wasting time farming that junk

inb4 b-but maybe in 2 years you can upgrade something with them
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Wait a minute.
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>>15358506
>Upgrading:
>allowed for OTO
>allowed for 90mm gun
>allowed for high-caliber pastathrowers
>not allowed for 120mm DD pastathrower
>not allowed for Iowa's dual-purpose gun
>not allowed for 16inch burgerthrower
>not allowed for medium-caliber pastathrower

What's the logic behind this again?
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>>15358533
It's true. All the people forced to farm the rocket tubes and searchlights was incredibly hilarious.
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>>15358538
You didn't have to farm any if you just kept the ones you get from remodelling everyone once.
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>>15358537
That reminds me, why aren't 5inch guns allowed on destroyers when it was the primary armament on all of the Fletcher class and eventually every single DD in the USN?
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>>15358558
Wrong mod.
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>>15358558
It's a secondary armament which DDs can't equip. They can only equip primary armaments.
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>>15358563
Why does it have a DP icon then? I thought secondary guns were always yellow.
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>the city of hoteru
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>>15358577
Go look at the 12.7cm secondary and tell me it's yellow.
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how long did it take you to get the ships you wanted when you first started playing? yudachi was the first ship that dropped from 1-1 for me, but it took me until now to finally get shimakaze.
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>>15358579
I get mad every time I see Re's fucking face.
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>>15358589

She just sent me back again by making Junyou eat a torp.
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>>15358579
>>15358595
Your fault for not using 2 fast BB 4 CV.
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>>15358558
The one in-game is the Iowa-class version. Wait for burger DDs.
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>>15358588
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>>15358588
I joined during IBS, my highest ID ship is 20531, I still don't have Musashi.
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>>15358588
My Nagamon is ID 502 so pretty fast I guess
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Reminder that it will happen
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>>15358588
Got her within my first week of playing.
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>>15358588
I still don't have Shoukaku somehow.

This shit is annoying the fuck out of me.
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>>15358588

14 months to get Yuu
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>>15358588

ID 6359; Shimakaze took ages to show up. I got her while passively levelling things at 4-1 of all places.

Still trying for Bismarck. My summoning tome isn't working properly.
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>>15358612
Those seriously round eyes are kinda scary, it's like they stare all the way through my soul.
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So what's the to-do list now that the event is over?
-Test pic related route (allegedly reachable with 2 slow BBs)
-Test 5-3 farming fleet with 3 or 4 seaplane fighters
-Clear 6-4 without using WG42

Anything else?
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>>15358588
I don't remember wanting any specific ship when I started, everyone I love just grew on me while playing or dropped in an event.
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>>15358705
Prepare for summer.
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>>15358705
>-Test 5-3 farming fleet with 3 or 4 seaplane fighters
Why ? i dont see any good or special drop here
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>>15358588
7 months in and I still don't have Yamato.
Only gonna LSC once a week now, otherwise it's too demoralizing.
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>>15358705
Make your preparations for summer hell. No, it doesn't mean start stockpiling.
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>>15358714
Mizuho.
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>>15358705

>5-3 farming fleet

absolutely dank
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>>15358705
All of those things are pointless.
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>>15358721
Realy ? Glad i got her during event
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>>15358705
Leveling, weeklies/monthlies, stockpiling for summer.
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>>15358721
What, you didn't get her in the past 4 events?
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>>15357760
I meant mostly the CL, you can choose between half of them.
Elite DDs are likeable so there's no problem.
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>>15358735
Except that Kuma is one of the stronger CLs too.
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Is 5-5 with 3SS 3CV shit? It seems like it would be shit and involve lots of boss node chokes.
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>>15358743
It was okay back when you had no plane levels, but now the CV fleet is so much easier.
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>>15358743
It was good before planes gained ranks. Now there are far better options.
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>>15358743
>>15358748
Oh wait, I read that as 3SS 3BB.

That seems really retarded, both for getting to the boss and killing the boss.
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>>15358758
Shiet, same. I have to agree with you.
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>>15358516
Upgrading your 12.7 max to Poi gun is a huge waste of screws. Poi guns are mediocre when compared to Aki guns and you have to bring the useless shits to +9 just to make them better than your max 12.7.
Working on AAFDs would be much better investment.
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>>15358764
There's no F in AA Director.
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>>15358705
get zuikaku
do plane conversion quests
get bismark

>>15358758
it seemed to work for that guy in the last thread. he used both supports though.
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>>15358769
Aviation Cruiser.
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>>15358773
As it is now, any fleet that needs support to clear 5-5 isn't an optimal one.
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>>15358538
I don't really mind.
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>>15358741
Yeah, but she's cute, so it's fine.
She's too underrated, everyone focuses on Abu, Yodo and Sendais.
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>>15358789
Remind me again, what do upgraded sonars do exactly?
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>>15358865

Supposedly decreases the chance to be hit by torpedoes, but I definitely wouldn't count on it.
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>>15358814
>Ooyodo
>not cute

As for the Sendai-class, only Jintsuu is actually good. Sendai is only good as farming fodder and Naka is just worthless.

>>15358865
Increase ASW damage, firepower. Also evasion against torps.
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>>15358865
Boost evasion.
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>>15358870
SAKSEN
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>>15358872
>>15358870
>>15358869
How is it more useful than just having a turbine on your ship?
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>>15358879
The fact that you're not wasting a slot on a turbine and have ASW.
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