>NEWS:
Any and all idol groups are welcome in this thread. It started off as a sort of metal-idol hangout, especially with Ladybaby and Death Rabbits, but if you have any new and unknown and weird idol groups to share, this is the place to do it.
> Passcode 2nd Album confirmed for this spring
>Necronomidol and Bellring new album were released this week, please do your part !
> RECENT MV SELECTION
>LadyBaby: Age-age Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zWwd8n2JVI
>BiSH: Monster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j2NvbuUbs8
>Death Rabbits: Kaiju Anpontan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AzCKIUe6w8
>Passcode: From Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXfu3porXXU&feature=youtu.be
>You'll Melt More! : id IDOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i30Mxr92C6Y
> Bellring Shoujo Hearts: Room 24-7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDq-dPYjw28
Hi I am anon
The girls in ゆるめるモ are super kawaii, I love the vocals in that id idol song too, but I don't really like how popy the songs are, shame
>>14794006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMcuFIck0MY
my fav song from them.
the only TRUE idol
>>14794617
is that the NYAAAAA girl?
>>14795424
https://mobile.twitter.com/MHSJ_/status/679930046702718977/video/1
yes
>>14795452
Every time I hear someone nyaa'ing I just think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvozYm3S-kw
>New Necronomidol album
where can I listen?
>>14793633
ぜんぶ君のせいだ debut album came out recently. It's a shame that their debut single is the best song on there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CsCYcTF9w4
>>14793633
petition to have Deep Girl in the next OP, this some heavy shit
>>14796902
maybe I should include the video in my posts from now on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC4r6boCEOo
Already posted two of these in the jp music thread but I guess I'll add them here as well:
アンドクレイジー 「感情爆破レイン」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEFTyWhsi58
Ritsuka 「206メトロノーム」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Bmlb9KLeQ
アンダービースティー 「raven」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LWJKuCkaW4
Lovelys 「いちばん大事なこと」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlD-oxRuNC4
サンミニ 「BOUNCE!!」 & 「BAD GAME」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s9wHnxHTs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEYbneYQsNk
DIANNASWEET 「DEEP SNOW」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n0sBJ2JNJ8
>>14796118
that blondie is cute
I don't wanna start a whole thread on this so I'll just ask here.
I'm pretty new to this idol shit. Been hanging out with /bmsg/ for like half a year only.
Out of pure curiosity, are there any boy idol groups? Any decent ones? Doesn't have to be metal
>>14794617
N
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-gk1W-uTp0
>>14799146
There are male idol groups, but from my limited understanding of that scene I think Johnnys is pretty much having a monopoly on that market.
There is this one group which name I can't think of right now that did some stuff with various alternative idol groups though. Their gimmick is being gay idols.
which idol would love me for the beautiful person i am
>>14799991
乙女新党 「キミとピーカン」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDdTzqBWfeg
Yurika Takahashi, leader of 乙女新党 (Maiden New Party) is a princess of pure love.
She is a bit crazy and seems like such an otaku, her video tweets are some of the more funnier that I have seen from idols:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBZk_GSNpRw
https://twitter.com/Yurika_0722_/status/698501772587827201
https://twitter.com/Yurika_0722_/status/700701028396576768
https://twitter.com/Yurika_0722_/status/698506288519458817
https://twitter.com/Yurika_0722_/status/693817714792529920
https://twitter.com/Yurika_0722_/status/694900397777907712
https://twitter.com/Yurika_0722_/status/693815959677595648
>>14799940
You're probably thinking of Nicohalo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwKxsC19UT8
Hitomi (TGS) just did a cute thing where I guess she's licking her knee? Anyway, it's great and I thought you guys should be aware of it.
>>14802558
That's her lip, but I'll accept your contribution.
>>14801472
yep, it's them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQz4GIOB8gg
>>14797174
Do you know where I can find more stuff from andcrazy?
I know they have an album and a single out but I they're not even on jpopsuki.
It's a bit hard being a fan of a group when you only have a few concert vids to listen to.
>>14809224
Nope, since they are relatively new group and not that mainstream yet, it may not be that easy to get hold of their products.
Looks like the ALL FOR AND CRAZY album is only available from their store for now, and probably only as a physical CD:
http://grati.theshop.jp/items/1666707
But, I guess you can't order outside of japan, so it would only work if you know someone in Japan that can order it and send it to you.
You could of course try and contact them on twitter or their contact form and ask them to put it on Spotify/Google Play Music/iTunes/Apple Music/Amazon or whatever:
https://twitter.com/andcrazy0309
https://thebase.in/inquiry/grati-theshop-jp
Sometimes you can find and order stuff from the japanese amazon store as well, but only singles and other stuff there right now it seems:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/mn/search/url=search-alias=popular&field-keywords=%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC/ref=topnav_switchLang?_encoding=UTF8&language=en_US
Most of Especia's CARTA album was leaked by their producer on Soundcloud due to some shit with the label
Preordered anyways.I don't want Especia to die ;_;
http://www.mediafire.com/download/77fsjs1grjx62py/ATRAC_1.zip
>>14811796
It's sounding pretty good.
>#VICTORSUCKS
Gotta wonder what the label did. Maybe Victor Entertainment is partly at fault for the sudden graduations, especially since the graduations are so close to the album's release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_HDLhsEU2Q
Nama Ham to Yaki Udon
>>14811796
holy shit
Watching these clips made me realize how superior 2d truly is. Like wth even happens in them?
Yuzu-chan has been getting sweatier and sweatier with recent concerts, maybe she'snot used to performing in that outfit you gotta #freethebelly
ふくおか官兵衛Girls - "光" http://fukuoka-kanbe.jp/girls_about/
Girls only version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOjqKrRVaOk
Drama PR version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8hMgC4uJA
MilkShake (ミルクセーキ) - ”Say it!" http://nagasaki-milkshake.jimdo.com/
The video has camerawork that would impress even the great devinsupertramp himself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcioGF0hmQI
>>14815841
>MilkShake
>ミルクセーキ
Why do they spell it like that? Shake is not hard to say.
>>14799146
Just go with relatively new male idol groups from Stardust Promotions. Stardust pretty much guarantees that there will be interesting takes in the idolsphere.
>>14816081
Right? It's not like they don't have シェ
>>14811796
Interstellar is fucking lit
>>14796118
this is the bis continuation isn't it?
city pop in the '10s
>especia
>greeen linez
>hitomitoi
is there anyone else?
>>14819257
No. Just obviously influenced.
This is the continuation, if you want to call it that.
>BiSH: Monster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j2NvbuUbs8
Rio needs more worshipers. Please follow her and remember to vote for her every day.
https://cheerz.cz/idol/850
Bucho from Death rabbits doing a Let's Play on their official channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxVVu7I1fLM
what a world we live in
>>14819370
>>greeen linez
Can it really be city pop with a cute nip girl singing?
koto chan saves the thread!
Still waiting to see Band-Maid live. Don't you just love how angry to two girls on the left look?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyKQNDZDOow
This song and video was kind of entertaining, seems to be both a band and an idol version available of this song:
キミトサイン 『覚醒ミライ』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6yRj7WLbjI
ひめキュンフルーツ缶 「覚醒ミライ」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TUpceCiYWo
>>14831203
new music when?
FRUITPOCHETTE『偉人-CleverDick-』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC7n3SguFBE
ひめキュンフルーツ缶『FOUR DIMENSIONS』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXf90N0FvJ0
>>14832847
Go to a live and get a live only release
That's how indie idols release the majority of their new songs
And she's already had a number
>>14817511
> シェ
So I'm pretty sure this is the darkest idol PV I'll ever watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC4r6boCEOo
>>14801140
arisa a kwaee
hope the whitey comes back soon :3
>>14837365
the shitty generic idol rock makes it even scarier
New Passcode MV!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgC7MLB9ng
>>14837657
I don't like this one
>>14837657
>>14837671
Yeah, the background music isn't too bad, but did they forget to turn off the voice modulator?
In the current state they might as well have had Hatsune Miku singing the lyrics.
>>14837657
superior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjxOW5oKElc
DAOKO 「ShibuyaK」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5cI2Phbv8Y
DAOKO「さみしいかみさま」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcD1LcmxfA
>>14842082
Not an aidoru, m8. I'm a fan though.
You should also consider checking out Suiyoubi no Campanella if Japanese women rapping is something that interests you. Not that it's related to this thread or anything.
Who knew that songs about hernias could be so much fun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1_nwoxVgqI
I was lucky enough to be at わーすた`s 1st oneman live when they revealed this today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS-xd7f-W34
Any other fans here?
>>14847325
i never heard of them before but this is pretty nice
>>14843355
Yeah, sorry about that, just felt the need to bump with something before I went to bed o_O
つばさFly『The Endless Summer』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNe706zYJ8
つばさFly『Break Through』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1jIHBNgCv0
つばさFly『Loneliness』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXA3EasopQ0
つばさFly『Unforgettable Days』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgH-NcZ0Bgo
Party Rockets『KASABUTA』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYKVYNGynPY
仮面女子：アリス十番『全開ヒーロー』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX0QKrF49h0
Especia's final 5-member live is gonna be streamed at https://www.showroom-live.com/especia tomorrow Feb 29 7:30PM JST, 5:30AM EST
>>14799146
Other than Johnny's groups, the only ones that I can think of are BOYS AND MEN, a local idol group from Nagoya that got pretty popular after one of their members starred in Kamen Rider a couple years ago.
You should check out Johnny's groups, too, if you haven't already, though. They're generally at least decent, in my opinion. Too bad KAT-TUN is going on a hiatus, pretty sad it had to happen on their 10th anniversary.
>>14848984
It's always sad when groups dissolve, but 10 years is a pretty good run for idols.
>>14799146
SMAP comes to mind, I don't know anything about them other than they are basically male idols
>>14847325
Sounds like shit, no thanks
Yesterday night at Shibuya :
> "You know that tonight this place is not a nightclub but hold an idol event right ?"
I have to admit that I was a bit triggered.
>>14847325
was alright until the gimmicky genre jumping
>>14853660
who is that
>>14855235
Minami Nao from Passcode, the photo was taken after sunday event .
>>14855998
where is her chin?
>>14853660
triggered how?
>>14812380
I assumed that from the start. Victor seems pretty shitty; apparently the reason we kept getting short PVs instead of real ones was because Victor has their own streaming service and so wanted everything on there which is a great way to promote a group you know, by severely limiting peoples' access to their music.
It'll be interesting to hear what comes out of these. I'd imagine the producer (Schtein&Longer I'd assume) would probably drop some shit. I'm going to assume that Victor almost 100% wanted to boot Chihiro and Chika due to them not being "pretty" enough (and probably "old" in Chika's case since she's like 26) which probably lead to Monari quitting.
>>14831243
Band-Maid's horribly disappointing. The first song (Thrill) was fine enough, the second sounded slightly more generic but was alright. Don't Let Me Down sounds like a fucking anime OP song though, it's complete shit. I didn't think it was possible for a band to sell out in 3 or 4 songs.
If I want some girl rock band I'll just stick with Rick Rack which, if not mind blowing, is competently done indie rock. Also Serina a cute; shame the thick bassist left.
>>14819370
>hitomitoi
I should listen to City Dive some time. Surfbank Social Club was great but Snowbank Social Club sucked. Hopefully her new album's better.
And I don't really think greeen linez is citypop. I like them but their thing seems more to be just old styles of pop/dance music in general and not specifically citypop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwPTpFTolm8
That's some '90s as fuck drum and bass. It sounds like something out of Street Fighter III.
>>14857580
The stated main reason for their graduation is the moving of Especia from Osaka to Tokyo, which I'm sure was something forced by Victor executives. But I'm sure it's more than that, and I would really like to know the true reason one day.
What throws me off the most is that graduations were too sudden and seemingly unplanned. To the point where Haruka and Erika found out only a few days before the announcement.
Also, the twitter accounts of all five members were deactivated.
Today I got nothing, so I'll just bump with some Kiss Bee.
Kiss Bee 『道しるべは青』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwHznGAodk
Kiss Bee 『透明な恋の歌』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPqHIdOFtoI
Kiss Bee 『頬で探すあなたの温度』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH9jTSOKyQQ
Bonus clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9tlwBQcfNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd8RSJiM37w
>>14857580
>I'm going to assume that Victor almost 100% wanted to boot Chihiro and Chika due to them not being "pretty" enough
Chihiro is not considered pretty? I don't get it. But then again, that somewhat gyaru-ish look she has going does alot for me.
>>14858785
Anon. I'd like to tell you something but I'm scared that it might shock you.
>>14858237
Yeah, it'll be interesting to hear the real story because right now this looks like a record company destroying a promising act through incompetence.
>>14857580
>I didn't think it was possible for a band to sell out in 3 or 4 songs.
Did you like "alone" at least?
>>14857580
>Band-Maid's horribly disappointing. The first song (Thrill) was fine enough, the second sounded slightly more generic but was alright. Don't Let Me Down sounds like a fucking anime OP song though, it's complete shit. I didn't think it was possible for a band to sell out in 3 or 4 songs.
You do realize all of the songs are from the same album that was released a while ago?
Especia is okay sounding nothing to get your titties in a twist over
You can see murderous rage seething behind those eyes.
>>14864335
ugly
>>14864335
cute
>>14864760
Agreed
>>14864335
I knew she was a bag of delicious crazy when I saw that gravure video of her eating cold spaghetti and crying around the city. Some serial killer shit. I love it though. fuwa fuwa.
>>14864966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1XfOxgd0js
which ladybaby is this?
>>14865495
Fucking Google
>>14865225
They stole Babymetal's meme!
>>14865495
bootybaby
>>14865730
Who is she?
>>14865548
fuck off and answer his question dumbass prick bitch!
>>14865495
Speaking of Rie, did she win the young prostitute of the year award or this is not what it seems?
>>14857580
>Rick Rack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvRJjC28pKE
I'm really liking this band quite a bit
>>14868179
>another terrible group is posted
Jesus anons get some fucking decent taste
>>14865730
>>14866881
>>14866994
Yeah, it's Rie Kaneko (金子理江), the older girl.
Just like Rei, she is now also doing Gravure Idol work:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravure_idol
https://twitter.com/ChuuuRie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nrSENtUZdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmtOTRy2e9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DLdjMd4RcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJTFcaXAlAk
>>14794006
>>14794050
New to this whole idol shit, can I get a rec on groups similar to ゆるめるモ?
I really liked the few songs I listened.
>>14868956
Google "shitty idol group japan"
>>14859632
>>14858785
Oh fuck it. I don't care anymore. I'm gonna expose this bitch.
Please keep this in this thread.
But if you are really such a shitter and wants to share it on their thread on 2ch. IDGAF, do what you want to do.
https://twitter.com/flashback0217/status/684448033057017856
>>14869071
I don't get it.
>>14869071
what are you trying to say, anon! her twitter accounts a bot? shes confused and likes a random tweet? she loves to shitpost?
Well, a lot of twitter accounts have bots and are controlled by management. They are set to follow people or like posts to get people to follow them back. You will normally notice that they will follow you or like your posts at even hours or right after you posted something.
I'm guessing posts from those accounts are done by management or possibly proxied through management as well.
But does that mean the idols don't read your replies? Who knows, but I am certain at least some do, one way or another, or at least in some filtered way. They might not necessarily be the ones liking your posts though. I also know that a few of them have private, personal accounts.
>>14869550
Only indie idols will handle their own accounts and even they still have restrictions, it's retarded but old men like to control everything. No control means that they aren't relevant, they won't admit that they aren't relevant until they are on their death bed.
Ok! Let's get back to posting music and videos!
Not sure if this has been posted but here we go...
偶想Drop
http://gusodrop.info/
https://soundcloud.com/drop-12
偶想Drop - ひらり、ひらひら
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwc2ebJHRVU
偶想 Drop - Level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K42UbHgwTI0
>>14869550
I follow the Death Rabbits on twitter. Both Bucho and their main account. They do that thing of immediately following back regardless of who you are, and then I've had random idols follow me and I was like "eh sure why not" and followed them as well.
With Death Rabbits they're not pretending that it's the girls running the account, it's definitely their management (apparently someone other than Bucho). There was one instance where they had a special event where they were having the girls reply to questions on twitter leading up to one of their concerts, but that's it.
>>14870022
guso drop is trash! one of the members hangs out and has sex with a gaijin! fuck that!
>>14868956
3776
BELLRING少女ハート
あヴぁんだんど
校庭カメラガール
少女閣下のインターナショナル
>>14870043
That's because gaijin cocks don't get pixelated during intimate scenes
>>14872179
3776 isn't similar, you're just throwing out names of groups you just learned about in the last month lmao
faggot
>>14870043
And how is that bad exactly?
>>14873848
she's a racial sell out and completely unpure! DO NOT SUPPORT THIS!
> BiSH banning lifting during their live
Well, what a shame...
So when does a girl group stop being an idol group and just start being a band?
Have some lyrical school in the meantime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8rfgKYHIV8
>>14877367
Watanabe said it's because he watched a BISH live from the back of the audience and there were times he couldn't see because of lifting. He doesn't want anyone's experience ruined because they can't see the stage.
>>14877731
Well, I never went specifically to a BiSH show, but from my "alt-idols" live experience, being/helping people to be lifted (given my size, more of the second) is part of the experience.
Is lifting at BiSH show far worse than at Passcode/Gusou Drop/Bellring etc... ?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhz_6IBADlc
Video related from the public PoV.
The fact that I'm slightly taller than the average japanese may biased a lot my opinion I have to admit .
(And it's always fantastic to see ~1,50m girls that don't fear to dive into the crowd).
Schoolgirl Rabbits
>>14877731
It has nothing to do with that, that's just the PR shpiel. Bish is going legit, hence their label move, and they can't take chances at venues with their fans.
It's a sell-out move but all the media friendly hot spots don't want to see it anymore.
>>14870043
>>14873908
Fucking mongrel with a 2 inch dick. What, want to be made a honorary Japanese?
Stop being a monkey. Whomever she sleeps or not is none of your concern.
Get a clue
especia cover from a fantastic band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgXl-KTAYNw
>>14873908
Agreed!
>>14880363
I have serious doubts about Bish being able to go "legit". Watanabe just doesn't seem like a guy who could succesfully manage a mainstream group, looking at his track record.
>>14880363
How is "No lifting allowed" a sell out move?
Granted, BISH is not BiS, but Watanabe is hardly Aki-P
>>14884157
>>14883945
It's a sellout movie because crowd surfing, diving, and moshing are typical fare for indie shows
You're not allowed to do any of those anymore at Bish shows
If you don't think they are trying to go legit, you are seriously out of the loop
Is Doll $ Boxx an idol group?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu2z4Uf9Tgc
>>14884513
do you realize what lifting means and how different is from crowd surfing, diving and moshing is?
The last BABYMETAL concert i went i saw those 3 things.
Are you telling me BABYMETAL is more indie than BISH?
Who is out of the loop then?
>>14884684
Nah, they're a straightforward hard rock group. A collaboration group as well.
Although Gacharic Spin which is the entire band of DOLL$BOXX ,without the blonde singer who is usually in a prog metal band called Light Bringer, have been going more idol over the years.
Recently they got a couple of extra members whose only job is to dance around on stage and their sound is more idol-like as well and they're now doing the idol bullshit thing of releasing only 1-minute clips of their music videos.
Old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kceVX_1u0n8
New:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE-px0tgbQc
>>14884827
Oh, I'm region locked from seeing Music Battler. Not sure how I feel about that
>>14884827
And now that I see it, having two dancers in a band is beyond silly.
Akishibu Project just released a new MV if you're into that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7uljLKggic
>>14884814
BABYMETAL isn't in the idol business, stop being a dumbass
>>14884814
Lifting is part of the show, it may only become problematic if is permanent. As I said in >>14877789 , I don't know for BiSH live, but most of the time it is limited to precise song/part of songs, so it is not problematic (I even find it fun).
>>14884901
It makes me wonder if it was even their decision, they spent most of their career just as a rock band and once they signed to a major record label they got those extra two dancing girls.
It doesn't really take anything away from the band like you said but yeah it is pretty silly. I like my idols and rock groups separate.
>>14884513
>If you don't think they are trying to go legit, you are seriously out of the loop
When I said I have serious doubts about them being able to go legit I didn't mean I doubt that they'd try to do it, I meant that I doubt that they'll be very succesfull in trying it.
>>14885152
that statement only makes you look like the real dumbass
Check the context of the comment you're replying before you type stupid mutt
>>14885174
the way it is presented, as in "watanabe realized people were blocking other's view by lifting? sounds perfectly reasonable, i dont know why people is crying sell out.
People expect BISH to be like BiS, covered in blood/mud videos, taking off their panties onstage, and all that. They're not, so they're not doing that, why people cry sell out so soon?
Why that "waah, this was my little secret, they become mainstream so they suck now" attitude. The moment an artist charges for an entrance to a concert/records music and charges peopel to buy their music, automatically they are selling out.
People need to stop being so pedantic
>>14885541
Because then people will go to any other dime-a-dozen no-fun-allowed vanilla idol group. What was even the point of adopting the BiS name if they're just going to be AKB?
>>14885541
From my actual alt idol live experience, it is precisly not really a problem to correctly see the scene, in this domain constant moshpit may actuallu be far worse.
My point is that these aspects are part of the enjoyement of the show, especially when you see the amount of coordination being involved in lifting peoples when their oshii sing. Same thing with thz multiple flag carried by Stereo Tokyo fan for example.
That's why I ask if lift in BiSH show are actually far more numerous than in the groups quoted earlier, as I didn't have the occasion to go to one of their show for time being, nothing to do with fear of seing them "go mainstream".
>>14885541
Because it's a cop out, it's not even the real reason as to why they are stopping it, are you daft?
You're probably the same type of person that thought Saki (POP) actually got punished for stage diving because that is the story they put out.
Pro-tip: that wasn't what happened
Some people just eat up whatever is said and take it as truth simply because they are so far detached from what is actually going on that they are content with just being lemmings
>>14885756
Lifting used to happen at every BiSH song, it was never much of a problem view wise because it never lasted very long
A lot of venues do not like lifting (crowd surfing is lumped into lifting) and moshing. This is Watanabe trying to remove his group from a "disruptive act" tag so that venues won't give him shit and BiSH will seem more presentable in future dealings
Imagine what it's like trying to get your group a show when your fans have a reputation for potentially hurting themselves and others
>>14877651
Wait for 5572320 to develop their skills then it might be possible to witness Idols turning into bands. They have such great collaborators that it might just be worth the wait.
>>14887347
>This is Watanabe trying to remove his group from a "disruptive act" tag so that venues won't give him shit and BiSH will seem more presentable in future dealings
Which is perfectly understandable.
He said he wants BiSH to be bigger than BiS from the start, so they obviously can't be acting in a BiS way all the time.
Why do you think BiS couldn't hold their final live in Budokan like they wanted to? He wants BiSH to be able to make it happen this time.
I can understand you being against it, but this has been his goal from the start.
>>14885188
>>14889808
I think Zone is somewhere between idol group and band
I haven't listened NECRONOMIDOL's album yet, but the song names make me not want to listen to it.
I tweeted about not particularly liking Necronomidol after hearing their first release and the group favourited my post. I was incredibly embarrassed and felt rather bad about it
>>14891334
Yep. There haven't been that many except maybe for passpo. K-pop is recently trying it out.
I remember Necronomidol getting told not to hand out their flyers in front of Akasaka BLITZ.
Seems like their manager or at least one of their handlers is a GAIJIN. Not complaining, he seemed like a cool dude.
>>14891988
yeah, I saw him at a live were they performed one month ago. Wasn't sure it was here a this moment ( even if it was the only white excluding me and my friends), so didn't try to talk to him.
>>14889826
I'm reaponding to people who bought Watanabe's "official" story and believe he was doing it for the fans.
He wasn't.
He even held a poll for fans to decide whether it was going to be banned or not, they voted for it to not be banned, he banned it anyway.
apparently callme write their own music. anyone know any other idol groups that write their own music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK-kxVE0ZCQ
>>14892660
Tentenko and Cutie Pai
>>14892748
Friendly reminder that tentenko is NOT an idol.
To any of you guys that have been to lives, how easy was it purchasing a ticket? Have you gone from over seas to attend?
>>14892235
Yeah, I didn't also talk to him. Just noticed him and thought "cool".
Also, seems like Idol Koushien has one foreigner on their staff. Or he might've been a member of passcode staff? I've seen him at events idol koushien events quite a few times.
>>14893045
except she IS idol
>>14893635
No she isn't. Are you the same guy that is saying she is an idol in every thread? You should have learned by now.
>>14893370
Pretty easy for the one I did for time being. I saw mainly two methods: reservation directly on the band website, than payment at the venue, or "traditionnal" reservation, with an option to pay/print your ticket at a combini. Don't know how it work with "only" a oversea postal adress, but I think you'll have no problem if you do it on site. Given you're able to use a machine translator, it is not rocket science. See you around at a Passcode live maybe ~
>>14894915
thanks for the info, wanted to know seeing as how I'm going over during summer
>>14895025
Just use a middle man to get you a ticket. No need to bother with any ching chong
>>14895152
For Passcode gig for example, you don't even have to do this. Just put your hotel adress in the correct field, and i"m not sure if it's even checked. Same for the phone number, I made a reservation without a japanese one.
The only thing you really need is your name and the reservation number they put in thz confirmation mail, then you'll just have to pay at the venue on the day of the concert.
>>14889808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZisCkRxMs
>Besides being cute, idols present an image of purity, as defined by Japanese culture. Among other things, this means that idols should not have boyfriends or girlfriends and should appear to be entirely inexperienced romantically and sexually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_idol
That sounds terrible. I thought idols just sang cute songs in large armies
>>14895797
that last bit is sometimes not the case or not the focus of the group, like with BIS covering themselves in mayonaise and throwing their panties off stage or whatever it was they did and other alternative groups where they don't ham up the whole "ooooo~ I wish I had a big strong man by my side, maybe it could be you if you buy enough copies of our latest singe!" aspect of the idol industry.
>>14896112
Watanabe would just make things cost out the ass
>>14892242
No, you're not "responding to people who bought Watanabe's "official" story . Im not questioning Watanabe's motives to ban Lifting but the fact that is being perceived as a sell out by purists who feel BiSH is betraying what BiS was.
See >>14889826
>>14892660
Nama Ham to Yaki Udon. But I think they probably get help with it.
There's a reecent short documentary on their behind-the-scenes work here. Poor quality though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRh-kkjgfGA
Particularly interesting was some info on how money works for them.
This one was up for maybe five minutes and said something about the photo being taken inside a homeless persons house. I love this crazy cutie.
>>14896502
Rereadcthe posts you stupid autist, that's exactly who I'm responding yo. Maybe if you laid off the bong once in awhile you wouldn't have to do mental gymnastics for simple things that should have mastered in primary school.
>>14897823
Did they teach you how to proofread in primary school? :^)
>>14897823
im not laying off the bong because a stupid twat who cant even type correctly is telling me what to do .
Get pissed all you want. Is your problem, not mine.
We need more Bellring in this bitch.
2.5 weeks until seeing Band-Maid live. Are you ready?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axF56i4spio
Posting some ЯeaL because I have no idea if they count as an alternative idol group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPpSlmg4qHM
>>14900840
Most of the time idols can cover up their lack of singing ability, especially on CDs, but Bellring are just really bad at singing.
>>14900710
Lmao not even that anon but your premise is so retarded man. Did you just get into idols in the last couple of years? It shows
>>14900622
>proofreading a 4chan post
ha
>>14900840
bellring is pretty bad anon
What groups put on a good live show?
>>14904267
Passcode gig are really nice. Since I'm in Japan I'm also fond of guso drop and koutei camera girls. Special mention to Stereo Tokyo fans that pushed me and a friend of mine to the front of the crowd during a live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb2D_LjSf1U
new kit cat mv.
>>14904267
Kit Cat, Koto and Femm
>>14901262
>>14901930
That's the point you fucks. They are a no audio recording blaring on full blast on the street band.
If they were bad they wouldn't have lasted this fucking long. Hell they even sell out shows.
Like I said we need more GOOD bands in this bitch, like Bellring
>>14905061
>If they were bad they wouldn't have lasted this fucking long. Hell they even sell out shows.
This is never a good point.
I don't really mind if idols aren't the best singers, because they can usually make up for it. But with Bellring their total lack of singing ability makes it hard to listen to them. Also, Bellring are not a band.
>>14901876
oh yeah, i got into "idols"in the last couple of years. How did you know?
It feels so bad being a newfag, boo hoo
>>14901262
>>14905511
dude, BGH sing out of tune on purpose on most songs. That's the premise, to make you feel unconfortable, like you are on a bad trip.
Apparently they have succedeed.
I agree tough, selling out shows is not a good basis for measuring quality. Lots of people go to shows for different reasons than actually liking the band onstage
>>14897823
>>14901876
butthurt samefag detected
>>14905544
>i waste money to go see a band I don't care about
Holy shit the sheer retarded is strong in you
>>14905762
You must be 12 and not allowed by mommy to go to concerts because that's exactly what your ignorance shows.
There is a big pat of the audience in every concert that go to lives without giving a flying fuck who plays. Assholes who spend their money on a ticket and later g thrown off the venue for hurling objectsto the pertformers or being obnoxious to other people in the audience.
You probably must be one of those chickenshit conformist the dead Kennedys were referring to
"Who played last night? I don't know, i forgot but diving offstage was a lot of fun"
Chickenshit conformist like your parents
>>14906703
False, the way you have worded this is incorrect, this is not the case at every concert. However, it is understood that most fans don't really care too much about the music quality, the main attraction of idols are their live shows. The majority of fans are fans because they want to be part of something, it's a hobby, so regardless of music quality, if they feel like they are welcome or just enjoy what they are seeing, they will go to a live show.
And yes, it does seem like the anon you have responded to has never been to an idol show. He's one of those "detached" fans that the one anon here frequently rants about.
>>14901028
Will they ever play overseas?
have some nice photo
KOTO is cute.... CUTE!
>>14907082
Isn't she like 14
>>14907172
She's not really cute, but her album was definitely one of my favourites from last year.
>>14905544
>dude, BGH sing out of tune on purpose on most songs. That's the premise, to make you feel unconfortable, like you are on a bad trip.
Can you provide a source on this?
>>14907247
You don't need a source. Listen to Bed head and 13 weeks later. Watch BGH on the 6 the Dimension.
Teck Teck walk sounds like The Verve's Bittersweet symphony on acid
>>14906944
They'll be at Sakura-con in the US, but I'm not entirely sure if this will be a full on 2 hour concert or just a few songs in a convention room
>>14907247
He has no source, he just makes up stories for himself about idols since he never leaves his basement
>>14907286
Then you're definitely lying and just deciding things for yourself. The fact is they are bad singers and that's the main reason I can't listen to them.
There's nothing wrong with liking them yourself, but making up excuses for them to try and get someone else to like them makes you look stupid.
>>14892660
>anyone know any other idol groups that write their own music?
Kuroneko no Yuutsu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8g-yp577vY
track id at 6:57, 8:03, 9:29, 17:15, 27:03, and 35:25?? some idol and non-idol in there.
https://www.mixcloud.com/_POSSE/mogra-tour-fukuoka-mix/
>>14907188
she sure is
>>14907244
her new mini album is also really nice, nothing crazy different and overall not as strong as platonic planet i think, but still really fun and cute.
たまにきみにまるまって is a banger
>>14796915
holy shit this is gorgeous, thank you
>>14908898
where did you get the mini album?
>>14909236
jpopsuki
>>14908898
たった seems to like her
I have a coinfession...
I just can't into P.O.P anymore
I was initially cool with seeing Saki and Izukoneko do a project together
But the music was just bad and didn't use either of them in a good way
Then I was okay with Saki taking center stage when Mari ran back home
But then they added other girls and the full album was full of more bad songs
Now Saki isn't even the main focus, it's just another group that is wasting Saki's potential and putting out even worse music
;_;
>>14909570
Saki was the 2nd worst in BiS anyway. I don't know why they decided to stop making songs like pretty pretty good and go in this new denpa direction but it was a really bad idea.
>>14907556
>The fact is they are bad singers
Pushing your own personal opinion as a "fact" makes you look like a pedantic pompous prick.
You can retort all you like, nothing will make away the fact that you're just another patronizing guy who just is too much into himself
>>14907335
and is a cozy basement. Fight me bitch
>>14910599
>Pushing your own personal opinion as a "fact" makes you look like a pedantic pompous prick.
>dude, BGH sing out of tune on purpose on most songs. That's the premise, to make you feel unconfortable, like you are on a bad trip.
You're definitely stupid. I shouldn't have bothered to reply in the first place.
>>14910599
Do you blast idol music in your basement?
>>14907082
What's this from? I can't find anything about it.
>>14911444
dude, either is a photoshop or is not Rei at all. You cant exactly see her face too well with that bad lighting.
>>14911355
No, i play Q Lazzarus' "Goodbye Horses" while i crossdress
>>14910890
>You're definitely stupid
Yeah. so much for rational, coherent arguments to prove your point.
You took offense that i "was deciding things for myself", then went to state they are bad singers "as a fact" without proving a solid argument but your own personal taste.
There's nothing wrong with disliking things other people like, but calling whatever you dont like "bad" and try to get someone else dont like them makes you look pedantic
Poor sad person. I bet you have lots of friends
>>14912477
Robert Akindele please go home
>>14901060
I'd say we're going to see Kawaii Rock become a thing in the next few years. Them, Band-Maid, Mutant Monster and Rick Rack off the top of my head. I'm not going to be surprised to start seeing more and more bands where the gimmick is "cute girls playing music".
That wouldn't necessarily mean they're an idol group, just that the members being cute girls will be a big selling point.
>>14912749
Um, you do realize this has already been happening for years?
>>14912563
Im home, in my parent's basement. WTF?
>>14912749
>>14913058
I miss Stereopony
>>14913058
I think he meant on an international level
Gacharic Spin has been playing in Japan for years and it's only the last few years that they received minimal international attention.
>>14884827
and even before that, most of the memebers were in other groups like Tomo-Zo in Eu*Phoria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2oKxspfdcE
>>14913206
Uplift Spice was another good one, although it was just the singer who was a girl (I think)
>>14912749
Band -Maid need more meorable songs. Their premise is interesting, but the actua music is noy. Yet.
They have the potential, but either they hit the jackpot with a hit single or they go for a heavier approach to appeal the segment who dismisses them as too cute to be taken seriously
>>14913548
what about Shishamo?
and, it could be argued that Scandal when they debuted
I just partied with KOTO and Recoride
Holy shit
Tata is a girl
lmao
>>14914437
nice
and you didn't know?? i mean, i guess her look/vocals are kind of ambiguous, but i thought it was fairly easy to tell.. then again i thought kana-boon's singer was a deep voiced chick first time i listened to them so
>>14909570
yea, i liked happy lucky even though it was blatantly "hey look we can be dempagumi!!!" but i still thought it was a decent tune. that new one though, with the video and them in the all in one suits makin symbols and shit, i couldn't into it either
>>14913932
I like their latest song "Alone", but I wasn't a fan of "Don't Let me Down." Sadly, my favorite part of their channel was actually their covers. Their guitarist and drummer can really play.
>>14913942
I like Shishamo as well, but strangely their songs and SCANDAL's songs are gone from youtube as well.
Do bands normally release songs to the public for a few months before they are taken down?
>>14916643
agreed on "Alone".
"Be OK" was catchy, but not memorable. Which might sound contradictory but is not. They need more than catchy hooks. I dont want them to turn on a female X-Japan, but they should take more risks, otherwise the novelty will wear off and so the fanbase they are building. It would be awful they were lumped into the "girls who play while cosplay" bunch
>>14893370
You can almost always buy tickets on the door unless it's a major event that's likely to sell out in advance.
>>14907082
Rei is much thicker than that and also doesn't do nudes
>>14917796
And paying 500 more yen than in the case where you book your ticket in advance.
Half of the price of a chekki ticket anon, half of the price.
>tfw you're waifu dresses like a 1970s housewife
>>14913548
>Uplift Spice
Thanks anon, I just listened to Omega Rhythm and now I'm a fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvR2Dv1fT0c
>>14918621
>>14918621
1970s housewives and gas masks are the latest trend in Japan
>>14918621
why do all these girls have weird faces?
The lineup for the TIF is starting to be announced:
> Babyraids JAPAN
> callme
> Fudanjuku
> Idol Renaissance
> lyrical school
> PASSPO
> Up Up Girls (Kakko Kari)
Will you be there /aig/ ?
( My body is also ready for the linup of the Gyu-No Fes event of the 04/10 )
>>14920636
No, that lineup looks weak. Not worth my money.
Is there a primer on what BiS did/was? I looked around a little and it seemed they didn't like the idea of idol groups so they made an idol group that did even more extreme idol things in an attempt to parody them? A member quit in the beginning because they weren't idolly enough, then members quit because they were too idolly?
>>14920773
Well there is something like litterally a hundred bands that still need to be announced.
>>14920779
It was group put together for Pour Lui by Watanabe. It was a money making venture from the start as Watanabe liked to price things out the ass.
Their gimmick was that they were "anti-idol" even though they did everything that a normal idol group would do, including cheki.
The "anti-idol" part was fleshed out in their live shows where moshing and crowd surfing were the norm with fans, their music was typically made up of rock songs, and they released some slightly "risque" media like having the members have fake semen on their naked bodies (they wore pasties)
They had a goal to play at the Budokan, which never happened because they never got that popular and were not able to sell out their last show either. You can thank Watanabe for that.
Watanabe ended the group after their last show and created BiSH which is a lighter version of BiS. Watanabe is trying to use what he learned from BiS in order to make BiSH a much larger source of income and being as "anti-idol" as BiS no longer works into that plan.
>>14920636
Gyu-No Fes will be better.
>>14921352
Thank you, so he's trying to market idols to people who dislike idols? Sounds a little doublethinky. I can see why that market would be untapped...
>>14921873
No, the fans enjoy idols, he's just marketing them to an "alternative" audience. Think people already into idol culture but who also enjoy going to rock and punk shows.
>>14920147
Probably because they're like 13 years old
>>14921954
They all look old as fuck. Especially the one on the left.
>>14919320
glad to hear senpai
They did break up some years ago but fortunately more or less rebanded as The Musmus just recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgWQLFIpjA
>>14921964
Yeah, she lost her baby fat in her face and does look older now
pic related, her a couple of years ago
but still doesn't really compare to Rei from Ladybaby who is the same age as her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhT2-oX5kzk
