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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Jew's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit gun for BBs:
http://i.imgur.com/nbLMrMk.png

Equipment upgrade values:
http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Voices, Sprites, Furniture Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/KCV-Localisation/KanColleViewer/releases
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/FreyYa/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (yuyuvn successor): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer/releases

PS Vita Game was delayed to 18 February 2016: http://kancolle-vita.com
Dengeki Online article about the KanColle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096

News:
-Katori will be able to give her exp bonus outside of flagship position in PvP after the update.
-Akizuki and Prinz are available to get as a drop during the event.
-Fall event started on November 18th and will last for 2 weeks. It will be a medium scale event.
-New training cruiser: Kashima
-New carrier: Graf Zeppelin
-New destroyers: Hagikaze and Arashi
-New monthly rewarding a Skilled Crew Member to be added sometime in the future.
-New UI updates allowing you to save templates of your fleets and equipment swapping.
-KanColle Arcade has been delayed to Spring.
-KanColle will add Android support in Winter.
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First request for /jp/ magic. Please, RNG-sama, I NEED this girlband I'm starting to run out of resources!
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Disregard Eugen, Graf's where it's at..
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>it's a browser based game
>all of the girls have RL ship counterparts with english names
>all of the actions in the game are based off of relatively simple military maneuvers or options, also with english names
>the game still isn't in english

It's like they don't want free weeaboo dollars. I think the KanColle hype is dying too, and by the time they get off their ass and try to cash in, it'll all be ogre.
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>>14387821
Nutaku is planning to release it sooner or later
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>>14388411
They said that 10 months ago.
I predict PSO2 tier of never ever.
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>>14387800
Does Graf appear more frequently for hard mode players than ez mode?
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>>14388536
Farming hard is hard. Farming easy is like sortieing to 1-1 except chance of S rank on E4 boss is higher than chance of not getting D on 1-1.
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Is this for real? Not even screws or those morale items?
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>>14388609
They're making hard purely for e-peen now.
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this guy
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>>14388678
No Arashi
No Medals

He's not bragging hard enough.
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>>14388678
>Captura de pantalla
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18 total S ranks, 2 A ranks. I thought I was going to be here forever.
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>>14388678
How can there be so much disparity in luck? Still stuck farming Akizuki with over 100 S ranks. Just fucking kill me.
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>>14388749
What fleet?
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>>14388411
Probably gonna be along with the android release.
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So this events E5 routing was made for the sole purpose of teaching the masses the allure of Erokaze? I mean I generally daughteru-zoned her, but damn is she hot.
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>>14388695
>>14388678
you forgot
>taisho
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Tanaka-san, the time has come for you to give Akizuki up to me.
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>>14388825
This, it's weird because Abukuma didn't do night double attack for the first time ever, I've never seen it happen.
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>>14389034
I asked for an end to the bullshit, not even more of it.

Boy I sure do love getting the Tone sisters.
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>>14389139
It's about 1% chance. I think I only saw it happen once during 3 months of playing, and then I saw it at least 4 times during this event.
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>>14389139
It happens to me more often than I'd like.
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>>14388877
It was made for the sole purpose of showing me that Shigure explodes quite often.
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>>14389146
Last event two of my girls failed to kill the CV Hime because they fired single attacks one after another. It felt I won the wrong kind of lottery.
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Last E4-M run of the day for me, place your bets.
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>>14389191
I'll tell you this much, it's not Prinz.
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Double line cruisers can fuck right off. They were never a problem before but now I get two nodes of them every time and they stick half my fleet in orange before I even reach that shitty bitch AVhime
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>>14389191
rekt
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>>14389191
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>>14389204
One of these days, it will be Aoba's time to shine.
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>>14389222
One day anon.
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>>14389204
Shameimaru kai ni when.
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>>14389196
Just be thankful that she can't do shit to taiha'd ships in yasen with just a night scout and a star shell. In my 117 boss encounters and 105 S rank clears, at LEAST 60-70 percent of them have had at least one taiha in the yasen fleet and I haven't sunk anyone there. Shit would be impossible to farm otherwise.
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I'll take it.
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>>14389222
She was outplaying everyone in the early maps, who need stats when you have cute?
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>>14389193
>>14389197
>>14389204
It was Kirishima.
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>Akizuki and Prinz are available to get as a drop during the event.
Prinz drop is a lie.
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>>14389243
I feel like the star eye thing is getting old.
When are we going to get some star nipple pics?
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I feel like Zeppelin dropping in Easy is a lie.
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>>14389263
When I get my Prinz or Akizuki.
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>>14389263
Maybe if I get Asashimo.
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E4-M's final form is a pain to kill. Two CAs are not enough.
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>>14389313
Accumulate scratch in day battle.
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oh god ooyodo's drop rate on E-1 is so low
E-2 farming it is then
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>>14389313
Not really. Maya and Choukai can deal upwards of 700hp damage to her if they both get double hits in yasen with the type 3 shells.
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Do I take a CAV with drums or AV with daihatsu or Hayasui with drums?
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>>14389338
Unless you got tricked into sending all your good CAs to E-3... Suzuya, Mogami and Furutaka did ok for me last night though.
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>>14389313
I run 2 BB with AP shells in the main fleet and 2 CA with type 3 shells in the escort fleet and the only time i've failed to get a s-rank was when one of those little PT faggots went full godmode and dodged everything my girls threw at him.
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>>14389338
Only with double crits.

>>14389350
AV with Seirans on 12 slots and daihatsu.
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Dechi.
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>>14389358
iku
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>>14389351
"Tricked." Yeah, well I used all my kuso ships in E1-E3 and saved the best for last, so I'm not having any problems getting S rank in E4M.
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>>14389358

NANO
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>>14389364
>>14389373
Does she even drop there? Shireeee.
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>>14389376

ara ara~
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>>14389366
Hey, at least my CA waifus are getting exp at E-3, all the insufferable farming let me marry Choukai the other day! And just in case you were wondering, no I don't have Akizuki yet.
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>>14389358
>>14389364
>>14389373
>>14389376
>>14389382

Stop, please.
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>>14389386
Mogamin.
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>>14389386
baka desu senpai
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>>14389366
You can use your locked ships if you farm E4M on easy.
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I'm getting three of every single drop of E-4's boss but no Zeppelin.

Does Zeppelin actually exist? Does kuso mode really drop Zeppelin?
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>>14389313

Use a carrier fleet. Katori/Kashima/4CV - ABKM, 2 DD (one with AACI is helpful), 2 CA (with sanshiki), 1 CLT. You clear E-4 M before yasen the majority of the time and if not then the 2 CA in the escort clean up. And because this event isn't using CVs much the bauxite usage from running the carriers isn't really that much of an impact.
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>>14389384
At the rate that I'm farming E3, Satsuki will finally become a woman ahead of all the other ships in my fleet!
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jp magic help me please I just need the last gumo
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>>14389384
My Akitsumaru went from lv37 to 70, and I'm still not out of this hell hole. Fuck this map.
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>>14389412
I'll trade you one of mine for Zep.
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>>14389408
Yep. My war doggy is almost level 69; she started from 27.
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>>14389412
I got her on my 4th E-3 run, back when I was still trying Medium. I'm glad I got her when I did because she doesn't drop on easy. So far she's my only new drop besides Kashima.
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My Yuubari went from like 35 to 70 just from zep farming, fuck this stupid ass event.
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From my count, this is about nearly 30 runs of E-3. Oh god.
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>>14389430
Brace yourself for not having her after 75 more.
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>>14389416
I got Zepp in 8 farming runs so I've used up all my luck for this event I guess
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>>14389426
Yeah she does, I got her on the preboss node
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>>14389438
Really? After all these runs I just assumed she didn't. Go figure.
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What's the fastest way to get Kashima to kai?
4-3?
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>>14389450
Farm E4 on easy
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>>14389450
PvP + 4-3.
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What
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>>14389455
Yeah, Guide say you can add CLT to the team while having a CL. But you actually can't. What the hell.
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>>14389455
Flagship
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>>14389455
You're just retarded.
You need CL flagship.

>>14389461
You too.
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>>14389455
You have to use six ships.
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>>14389455
Why is it so blurry? Props on taking your waifu to the final map, I'm going to do it too.
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>>14389473
>>14389461
>You're just retarded.
Thanks, I'm still groggy from waking up.
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So what's the verdict on E4?
Suijou or Kidou?
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Farming E-4 Easy...

Damn it, I already have you. Hell, you are on the E-4 farming fleet.

Getting the Countess is gonna be hard.
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Congrats Ayanami you're my MVP of Fall 2015 and all you did was chip damage on BB Hime
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>>14389482
Definitely Suijou. You have more ammo at boss.
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>>14389485
>>14389487
lol'd.
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What routing does the Kashima/Katori fleet go?
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>>14389502
they avoid the C node in E-4, which is basically an extra battle with a nuke submarine.
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>>14389505
So just straight through the bottom curve?
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>>14389488
Isn't it the exact same if you take Akitsushima/Katori-class with Kidou?
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PT are so weird, Shigure hit one on yasen with normal torp.
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>>14389508
Pretty much.
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>>14389509
Kidou goes through three normal battles no matter who you take. Special routing is just to avoid one sub node.
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>enough grind to be able to kai kashima
Time to panic? No coffee machine in sight.
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>>14389400
Just hit 100 S ranks at E4, yeah, she is a lie after all.
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>my ships are on average lvl 30-50 with takao at 60
>going through event on easy
>want zeppelin, prinz and akizuki badly
>just started e-3
>200 buckets and average 20-30k in all resources
Do I even stand a chance?
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>>14389528
You deserve it if you're on easy.
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>>14389532
You will get Zeppelin if you are extremely lucky. No hope for the others.
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>>14389532
Probably, chances are really low with those buckets though.
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>>14389526
Mine is over 50 already, so yes, time to panic.
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>>14389532
You're in way better position than me. I have 7k fuel and 60 buckets.
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Okay, i'm sick of RNG.
Been trying for 2 days at E-2 but I can't reach the J node I made it once but I didn't manage to A rank the boss so it didn't count
pic related is my fleet
Can anyone tell me what's wrong or what should I change?
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Can I get away with running 3 clt on e-4 if I don't have ABKM?
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>>14389517
Oh excellent. First try Bep gets taiha'd first node. Great start
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>>14389521
So Kidou for E4M and Suijou for boss clear?
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>>14389546

Where's your Hamakaze?
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>>14389557
Don't have her so I had to settle with what I have.
I've seen fleets similar to mine and they can reach the j node just fine.
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>>14389550
For clearing or Zeppelin farming yes, for M node farming you need 2 CA with type 3 shells.
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>>14389546
No Hamakaze
Too many barrels
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>>14389546
I think you mixed up Hama and Isokaze.
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>>14389560
Alright thanks.
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>>14389559
Remove beaver then.
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FIVE MUTSUS

I'VE GOTTEN FIVE MUTSUS

AND NO FUCKING ZEPPELIN
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>>14389571
Ara
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>>14389568
Okay, i'll try that and see what'll happen after a few sorties.
sankyuu
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>hankousen 4 times
>C rank
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>>14389571
Someone told me when you start getting Mutsus, you're closer to gettin Zeppelin.

Let me tell you something: it's not true.
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>>14389624

I've been getting Mutsus since day one and I'm still suffering.
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>>14389571
I'm at 4 Mutsus. I feel your pain.
I'm out of resources now though, so I have to wait a few days to farm more Mutsu.
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What do you do when you have four medals but not a single Arashi?
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If my resources are running low, it's better to just do E4 on easy and E5 on medium?
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>>14389665
You get Arashi.
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THIS SHOULD BE FUCKING ILEGAL

I'm willing to do farming on medium now but I don't know if Zeppelin drop rates are better there or it's just the same bullshit.
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>>14389665
The new Kagerous are so boring, I don't even care if I don't get them.
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Can I make this fleet more efficient for Graft farming on Easy? I've replaced Bisco with a married kongou
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>>14389676
And made Verniy full ASW instead of DA
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>>14389676
Can you even sink the boss with that escort fleet?
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>>14389670
I keep getting Noshiro and Kinugasa. And A ranks because of PT cunts.

Also, forgot pic.
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>>14389672
Farm on hard for best rates
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>>14389690
I switched Verniy to full ASW. I can kill her fine, but I was wondering if I could somehow cut resource usage.
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Please, make it stop.
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Help me /jp/ I just want Graf so I can move onto E-5 already ;_;
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>>14389690
Ooyodo will sink her alright. normal damage is 40+ and crits are 100+
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>>14389691
Arashi drops from A-ranks so it's fine.
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>>14389672
E4 farming is very stable.
Just keep S ranking the boss and zepu will appear.
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>>14389139
I've heard that chuuha lowers the chances. Not sure about shouha.
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>>14389691
>87% PvP
How.
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>>14389696

But Mutsu best girl. You should be happy.
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>>14389699
>only ~40 S ranks

fuck off
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>>14389705
I have 82%.
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>>14389708
I know, I married mine.

But it has been 2 days and 23 cups of coffee, I just want out of this place.
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>>14389705
That's from an old habit of throwing weak girls at strong PVP fleets to level them up.
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Welp, RNG hit closer while farming E-4...
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>>14389676
You could get rid of a CLT, 2 is more than enough for BB Hime.
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>>14389722
Replace it with an AACI dd maybe?
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>>14389695
You could swap Maya to Ducky class for slightly weaker AACI.
Not sure you even need AACI for easy.
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>>14389720
Boss node or M node?
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>>14389720
Which node?
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>>14389699
You fucking faggot. I want FaTs.
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Does AACI trigger in combined fleet? I have my Teruzuki with double 10cm + AAFD in my second fleet buy it didn't trigger.
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>>14389728
BWS can be annoying sometimes without the AACI. I'll try the weaker one and see if it serves to be as useful, since running only AS instead of AS+ means Maya sama cant destroy BWS's slots completely.
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>>14389739
Upgrade your air radar.
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>>14389739
It does if you have an AA radar.
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>>14389743
>>14389744

I thought Teru and Aki didn't need a radar for AACI
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>>14389750
They don't need an AAFD, they definitely need an air radar.
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>>14389750
They don't need it but it makes the AACI more frequent and much stronger.
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>>14389750
They have built-in fire directors, not radars.
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>>14389739

AACI is not a guaranteed effect, Akizuki and Teruzuki will trigger around 70% of the time.

>>14389750

They have an AAFD built in, they still need a radar to function.
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>>14389753
>>14389755
>>14389756

Oh, I didn't know, thanks
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>>14389740
What does BWS stand for?
Its for Wo kai right?
Sorry I'm not good with all these memes.
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>>14389753
>>14389756
>>14389757
Educate yourselves.
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sigh
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>>14389764

No radar works, it's just not as effective. A radar boosts the rate by 5-10% and shoots down nearly twice as many planes.
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>>14389761
Blue flame Wo, so yea Wo kai.
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Maybe I should debuff after all. Anyone tried debuffing during TP phase? Does it carry on to HP phase?
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>>14389691
By the amount of your pvps i guess you started in 2013? I'm asking because i have more battles then you and i started in january.
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>>14389761

Black Wock Shooter. Google "Black Rock Shooter" if you don't understand why.
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>>14389780
It's one debuff for TP and one for HP.
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I am inching close; I can smell the coffee.
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Is it true that Zeppelin only drops when Dyson is in the boss formation?
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>>14389798
No, I got her from Wo.
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>>14389797
I've been playing for almost a year but no turkey yet, only countless Kagas.
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>>14389794
Oh. I'll debuff for HP then because I'm 2-3 fights away from clearing TP.

>>14389798
Nope.
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>>14389784
September of 2013, yes.

And I still managed to get my Musashi, even if just barely.
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>>14389691
1-1 is so fun.
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This is why it's important to max out your quints. Shigure's second quint is still just +6 because I didn't get the last KitaOoi pair to 50 in time.
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Is anyone else happy BBs got the sidelines for once?
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>>14389834
Or you could have just debuffed her. You don't even have to change your fleet comp to get to node H.
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Is it worth debuffing PTbar in E5 hard?
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>>14389838
I wish subs were still cool.

Pic only partially related.
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>>14389797
Good luck, I've found two sets of cranes while farming for Graf. Still no coffee.
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Behold. The rightful Flagship of the Combined Fleet in her original glory, with her twisted chimney. Witness her as she was before the pagoda mast.
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>>14389842
NAGATO KAI2.
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>>14389839
How would she learn her lesson if I didn't befriend her at the peak of her power?
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>>14389842
Woah
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>>14389841
If you meant for the TP bar, not really.
But I recommend debuffing for the health bar, otherwise you'll have fun moments like this >>14389834
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>>14389838
I am but historical composition on E2 is terrible idea and E3 as a whole is cancer. New CTF is too limited.
E4 is by far the best map and E5 seems pretty good. It would be great if it didn't force us to use CL flagship. E1 was disgustingly easy.
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>>14389838
No. E3 fucking sucks because you basically have 4 drum mules in main fleet.
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>>14389850
The only thing I see learning its lesson is you, TTK.
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>>14389838
Yes, DDs a cute and I was able to use more than 2 or 3 for once.
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>>14389841
For final health bar, yes since it doesn't take very long.

Managed to breeze through it with a non-Kai Kawakaze in tow.
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>>14389853
OK. Being back and forth from H not isn't fun enough. I guess I should go destroy TP Bar then.
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>>14389842
>>14389847
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>>14389842
Did anyone even sortie Nagamon for this event?
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>>14389872
I would have if the devs hasn't made such a shit event.
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>>14389729
>>14389735
Boss node.
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>>14389856
Drum mules aren't so bad, the fact they have to fight Ne, Ri flag, Ri elite and Ru flag while having terrible accuracy is the real bad thing about it. It's mind numbingly boring to watch 12 turns of miss, sometimes diversified by catching taiha.
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>>14389699
I've done thrice your attempts with no U-511 or Graft either. Talk about luck.
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Hey quick question, would the best formation for the Boss of E-4 be #2?
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>>14389842
>>14389847
Proto Nagato fucking when? When are we getting alternate sprites?
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>>14389872
Could have done so on E4 but she's 97 and Mutsu was lagging behind at 82. She was always here as a support fleet flagship though.
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>>14389881
No. ASW.
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>>14389882
>alternate sprites
When they fix the clearly terrible art from certain ships. Shouhou was the last one in a while.
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>>14389881
Of course not. Why would you do anything other than the anti-sub formation?
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>>14389872
I did when I was trying out E-4. Will deploy her again once I get to clearing E-4.
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>>14389887
Because there's things that aren't subs in that node. It seemed like a reasonable assumption.
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Please come to me Zepp.
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>>14389881
Double line is nice for farming easy since it makes it easier to dispose of Hime/BWS and save buckets, but once you're in for the hard kill you'll have to go for ASW, unless your ASW-ships pack enough punch, which is unlikely.
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How bad is E-5 without all three ships for routing?

I've heard that Shigure alone gives acceptable routing, but I'd like to hear if anybody has experience.
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>>14389895
With ASW formation you just finish them off in yasen. KitaOoi never got the chance to shoot actually.
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>>14389891
I'm assuming you haven't been in these threads much, since it's been the broad consensus for a while now that anti-sub is the way to go.

You can be forgiven for thinking otherwise given the other ships, but killing SS Hime takes priority.
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>>14389872
E-4
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>>14389886
Yeah, I mean, who the fuck uses Nagara, for example? I'd stay the fuck away from her even if her stats were good.
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>>14389842
>shorter hair young Nagato
CUMMING
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>>14389842
>>14389847

She's so fucking cool.
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>>14389909
She's the inheritor of Mikasa's flame, the one ship to unite them all.
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>>14389901
well to be honest I think either is fine really, easy is..easy enough.
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>>14389886
I just wish they'd replace Oboro's sprite already. That poor girl deserves better.
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>>14389914
If we dont get Mikasa done by Yoshinori in 2030 Im gonna quit this shit.
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>>14389872
E-4.
She's the only BB I'm using.
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>>14389898
I don't know about just Shigure, but I used Shigure and Sendai at start because my Kawakaze was only level 5.

Node H was pretty bad for me. I went back to using a non-kai Kawakaze because that was far more efficient than turning back after H.

I'd say if you have all 3, then go for it even if one is underleveled.
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>>14389925
If the devs are going to give us useless trophy ships they should definitely just give us Mikasa.
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>>14389898
Don't bother using Sendai as it has 3 non battle nodes but will direct you to PT boats instead. Shigure alone has a sub node and an elite DD node in exchange for those of Sendai's and you also get to avoid the PT shits.
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Mikasa is not dead yet. You can't summon her.
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>>14389945
>implying her spirit wouldn't pop out in a time of great need when the flagship, Nagato, goes missing to lead the fleet
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>>14389945
You know what must be done.
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Puppukupu~
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So wait, Nagato Kai Ni is actually happening?
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YOU'RE NOT DUCKY
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>>14389955
I'd bully both
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>>14389963
No, you wish.
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>>14389955
Sasuga Pyon
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>>14389963
no
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Hello? Graf?
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>>14389963
as if. It's a promo art for a 1/700 model kit of an earlier-than-ingame version of Nagato.
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>>14389963
Read the fucking thread you idiot.
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>>14389944
ABKM flagship again yes?
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>>14389951
You need to convince Nip government to scrap her.
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Why won't Mutsu leavem e alone?
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>>14389991
Marriage.
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I didn't know that American torpedo is superior to nippon. Or is it because it's abyssal's?
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>>14389532
I started with 27k fuel and 175 buckets and got Zeppelin. It's doable. I believe in you, anon!
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>>14390007
Abyssals are cheaters, they use the best they can find so they probably use upgraded O2 torpedoes.
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>>14390007
Subs are monsters from Japanese horror stories, Re is abomination, PTs are creepy as fuck. The most bullshit things in Abyss aren't American.
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>>14390014
>The most bullshit things in Abyss aren't American.
Their radars are.
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The PT Imps are kinda cute
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>>14390030
And we have another casualty in the event. How many more anons will lose their minds?
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>>14390007
No one used a 22" torpedo in WW2, let alone a surface torpedo that was stronger than the Long Lance. The only thing that came close was the Mark 17 torpedo the US made, but it was still 10-15 percent weaker than the Japanese.
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So /jp/ where are you on the chart.
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