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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit gun for BBs:
http://i.imgur.com/nbLMrMk.png

Equipment upgrade values:
http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Voices, Sprites, Furniture Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/KCV-Localisation/KanColleViewer/releases
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/FreyYa/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (yuyuvn successor): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer/releases

PS Vita Game was delayed to 18 February 2016: http://kancolle-vita.com
Dengeki Online article about the KanColle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096

News:
-New monthly rewarding a Skilled Crew Member to be added sometime this week.
-Fall event will start on November 18th and will last for 2 weeks. It will be a medium scale event.
-Zuikaku kai 2 is now available for remodel, requiring 1 catapult and a blueprint.
-New UI updates allowing you to save templates of your fleets and equipment swapping.
-Libeccio and Roma received new Halloween sprites.
-Libeccio temporarily drops from 4-5 on various nodes.
-New quest chain rewarding a third catapult and the Iwamoto fighter plane squadron.
-New training cruiser to be a reward during the Fall event.
-Fishing mini event has ended and yukata sprites removed.
-KanColle Arcade has been delayed to Spring.
-KanColle will add Android support in Winter.
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Don't make me sad, OP.
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>>14308765
She's doing fine.
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>>14308765
You cannot save the fate of the fairies.
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>>14308805
What if I never sortie carriers? Surely >>14308805
he fairies can live?
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>>14308813
It's impossible, they are kill.
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>>14308758

>dying fairies

why are you doing this to me OP
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>>14308853
There is surprisingly not enough dying fairy art. They are always shown doing fairy things.
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Plane fairies are invincible, and will just float back to base if the planes are downed

Plane experience was explained to be the fairy's attachment to their planes
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>>14308606
Lol what rank are you at?

If I remember, he was mentioned a month ago during the event or something. It's archived somewhere and you'd probably find it if you google his name.
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>>14308924
I also would like to add that I'm an accomplished faerie researcher, with experience in 2 complete viewings of jintai and a wealth of niconico studies
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>>14308928
I'm at 500, but he should at least mask his gaijin ass and change the message. It's embarrassing.
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「艦これ」秋イベント:期間限定海域の作戦展開を、全ての準備が整えば今月【11/18(水)】に開始する予定です。作戦規模は夏イベのように大規模ではありませんが、秋イベの主作戦では南方の島への戦闘艦艇を用いた「輸送作戦」、またそれによって生起する海戦などを展開する予定です。

Alright faggots, start looking up battles.
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>>14308969

>南方

SOON
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>>14308984
You said that last event and every event before that.
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>>14309003
To be fair it really was likely for her to show up in Summer considering the area we were fighting in was within 5-5 most of the event.
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>>14308984
No, you'll be stuck in that map of yours forever
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>>14309003
>>14309022

It's going to happen and you can't stop it.
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>>14309012
She was enjoying the show from the sidelines. Why join in when Evilzuki was worse?
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>>14308969
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kolombangara
Could this be it?
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>>14309046

>NZ actually participates in a battle
>allies lose

fucking kiwis
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>>14309046
Maybe, I was also thinking this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Kita
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>>14309057
>submarines
SS Hime is becoming more believable every day.
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>>14309055
New Zealand is scared of anything with the word 'nuclear' associated with it. Do you really expect them to win a conflict?
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>>14309046
High chance it's this. The twitter account changed their avatar to Jintsuu.
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>>14309046
Twitter picture changed to best CL, this is the battle
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>>14309046
>>14309103
>1 light cruiser
>5 destroyers
Easy easy
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>>14309098
>>14309103
>night battle maps make a return
>light fleet focus
I'm going to puke blood.
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>>14309103

>Twitter picture changed to best CL

What are you talking about? Their twitter pic isn't Sendai.
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>>14309046
>Part of Tokyo Express
Get those drums ready.
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>>14309110
>>14309113
Devs stated there will be combined fleet.
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Please send help.
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>>14309133
Why would you need help for Yo?
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>>14309046
So we're getting Abyss Jintsuu, assuming this is the battle?
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>>14309046
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kolombangara
>Jintsuu at level 21

Alright then
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>>14309142

>Bob drawing an abyssal
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>>14309151
Does he have the will to corrupt her himself? Will she be fuckable?
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>>14308969
Kancolle Autumn Event will start on the 18th of November this month. This operation is not a large scale operation like Summer Event but this Autumn Event's main operation is using combat ships to the southern islands for a "Transport Operation", and also the naval battle that occurs because of this.
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Hate me for being vanilla gaijin.
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>>14309178
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>>14309178
T-that's lewd, anon.
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Link the thread next time.
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>>14309317
I try to be around to make the new thread, I wasn't on time this time.
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>>14309142
>Abyss Jintsuu
My dick will not be able to handle this.
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Goddamn it I just k2'd two DDS, I don't want to fucking go back to 4-3 to level more light ships already.
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>>14309559
She will just end up as an amputee. Poor girl.
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>>14309610
Good. She can't escape my dick once she's disabled.
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>>14309596
Then just have them leech in a 3-2A party. Or have them lead various expeditions.
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>>14308953
You should see 584 and 212
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>>14308924
In the 4koma? Where?
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>>14309654
Yes, 4koma.
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You girls, are a disgrace.
This fucking quest is imposible.
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headlines:
first CL class to complete k2
first CL class to complete Abyssal transformation
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>>14309695
>Fubushit
You know who to blame
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>>14309704
Isn't she so perfect?
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>>14309704
>first CL class to complete Abyssal transformation

Say what?

>mfw Abyssal Jintsuu is worse than Antizuki
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>>14309704

But Naka-chang has been an abyssal for a while.
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>>14309695
I think someone recommended to take 2 CA instead of BB. I did. It gives better routing but no BB. You just need durable and strong CAs, even though Furutaka looks durable and strong.
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>>14309721
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The first whole class to complete transformation
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>>14309654
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>>14309724
Which formation would you recommend?
I'm using two lines in the boss node.
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>>14309790
Double line. I only went with line ahead by accident because I forgot about the sub.
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>>14309767
Don't fall for nip's propaganda. They pretend Kaiten and Kamikaze don't exist
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>>14309767
The same goes for sinking ships, right? So when my girls die they just swim back to base and get some vacation time until I find them new armor, then have to spend time getting used to it again.
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>>14309815
KTKM clearly knows Kaiten exists and doesn't want it equipped on her, neither do the devs want to add it and I remember an anon saying the devs said will never add the suicide units.

>>14309817
New girls are different since it only works if no dupes are allowed in the story. It's impossible to have that gameplay mechanic in stories unless it's some sort of comedy where logic doesn't apply. Even the 4koma starts off as Fubuki arriving to the naval base.
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>>14309704
>first CL class to complete Abyssal transformation
There's no Sendai abyssal.
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>>14309817
No, when they sink they sink for real.
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Would you want to be a fairy?

You don't have to fly a plane if you're scared, there's always construction or spinning a compass.
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>>14309724
MAYA-SAMA
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>>14309851
>Using AACI in easy maps
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>>14309851
Am I supposed to be impressed?
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>>14309851
Marry her.
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At what point does the game stop feeling fun and start feeling like a chore/job?
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So what country do you guys think the new foreign ship(s) are going to be from?
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>>14309861
What does the dialogue say?
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>>14310028
Pretty much when you get Akashi.
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>>14310032
"Um... my book... ya gonna buy... would you like to buy a copy?"
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>>14310047
Why would she sell a porn book of herself?
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>>14310028
Good question, but you will find the answer soon, so no need to spoil it to you.
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>>14310051
Because she's a slut and I love her
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>>14310031
If it isn't going to be an allied ship, then I hope it's Scharnhorst.
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>>14310051
She's a pretty good model for porn, Akigumo agrees.
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>14308714
>I had to clear my cache earlier because of some connection issues. Is there an easy way to get the game to download all the data again?
Browse the kantaidex.
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>>14309708
Fubuki did nothing wrong.
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>>14310031
Personally, I would like Murrican chic. But let's think about this.
USN: Busy fighting abyssal in the other half of Pacific and Atlantic.
RN: Too busy with Atlantic and Mediterranean.

So... Chink or Slav girl maybe?
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>>14310339
>RN: Too busy with Atlantic and Mediterranean.
Not really, unlike MURRIKA which has the other half of the Pacific and part of the Atlantic coasts to guard, the RN has help from the Kriegsmarine, Regia Marina, and the Marine Nationale to deal with their side of the Atlantic and Mediterranean. Hell, the Regia Marina and Marine Nationale probably take care of the Mediterranean by themselves, leaving the north Atlantic and North Sea to RN and Kriegsmarine to deal with.
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>>14309142
>>14309559
>CL Hime
Oh nice.

>>14309208
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14310031
Some RN girls, I presume.
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Im on the same boat as the anon who wanted drills ojou-sama from x country.
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>>14310339
Assuming the strongest Abyss come from the depths of the Marianas Trench, it would be pretty difficult for American shipgirls to go to Japan, assuming Pear Harbor has been corrupted, which is highly likely. They are not just going to let the Americans pass that easily and the USA is too far away to lend support. The Japanese shipgirls would have to go to them personally or meet up somewhere to take back control of Pearl Harbor and establish a safe link.
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>>14310370
>meet up somewhere to take back control of Pearl Harbor and establish a safe link.
This is seriously the most realistic way of getting the USN introduced into kancolle. A bilateral operation carried out by both navies to kick out the abyss from Hawaii and set up a base there again so that the USN can do sorties rather than the west coast of the Americas. Gotta save those aussies.
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>>14310370

>the next summer event is retaking pearl harbor
>9 (nine) maps
>abyssal Arizona guarded by angry not-Kaga and the new not-Akagi as the final boss

oh god I can see it now
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>>14310391
>14 inch guns
At least she won't hit very hard. Unless she somehow gets her hands on Nuclear Nagato's 20inch guns.
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2013+2 and somefags still think they will add alliance boats
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>>14310401

Antizuki had 4 inch guns, look how that turned out.
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>>14310383
And to think people want USN girls just for banter instead of working together to right the wrongs. I can see how Tanaka is going with this.
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>>14310408
Roma and Littorio post Luftwaffe bombings say hi.
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>>14310391
I'd rather have 8 maps, each map with a Dyson on it representing the BBs.
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>>14310408

>Italia
>Tan Yang
>USS Prinz Eugen

They already exist
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>Italy in charge of being good for anything besides vacations
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>>14310429
The only flaw with the 4koma is that Yuu is not Ro.
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>>14310441
Yuu in the 4koma is a mix of Ro and Yuu.
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>>14310427
During the war, those were still Axis boats.
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>>14310441
How is that a flaw you dumb stdfag.
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>>14310347
They probably have a good handle on the situation in the Atlantic & Mediterranean, considering how two European navies can afford to loan ships to Japan.
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>>14310429
Poor Fusou.
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>>14310445
The girl calls herself Veriny. Allied ship, No?
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>>14310509

The USSR was never part of the allies, they were co-belligerents against the same enemy.
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>>14310417
There is no Roma post Luftwaffe.
And to a certain degree, no Littorio.
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>>14310519
Bacause USSR didn't nuke japan. unlike those filthy berger and bong
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>>14310536
They'll never forget. Never forgive.
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>>14310556
>USSR didn't nuke japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria scared the shit out of japs more than nukes ever did.
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>>14310574
That was just the soviets still being butthurt about Tsushima despite that being the Empire.
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Why do many people say the Fusou sisters are ugly? When I saw them I was blown away by their beauty.
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>>14310595

It's a mystery to all of us.
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>>14310590
Japs surrendered the moment it was clear they were going to get liberated by slavshits nevertheless.
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>>14310595
They look good in their normal and Kai forms.
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>>14310605
They look even more beautiful and graceful in k2.
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>>14310574
Japs could have won the war if they didn't attack Pearl Harbor.
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>>14310613
> Japs could have won the war if they didn't attack Pearl Harbor.
It was can jap bombs melt steel battleships tier.
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But then they wouldn't have lost.
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>>14310595
Their clothes are the best in the game. I don't really like their appearance though.
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>>14310638
>Their clothes are the best in the game.
That's some funny way to spell Konishi Kagerou uniform.
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>>14310646
Typo?
You mean Konishi ABKM spats and jackets right?
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>>14310646
Only the ones with spats.
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What's the point of not listing the firepower enemy ships have with guns on the wikia? Shouldn't they at least put their actual firepower in parentheses? It takes far too much work to have to open the gun page and then add it up when you just want a quick look to not do anything with.
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>>14310657
Yura/Abukuma uniform>ugly shit ABKM has.
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>>14310664
>ugly shit
That's the best uniform, nigger
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>>14310668
How can it best when it's inferior to her original sprite?
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>>14310595
Diferent people different tastes. Personally I think Fusou is the definition of a stunning beauty and one of the best wife candidates together with Chitose and Ryuuhou.
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>>14310646
But that looks like bland shit, the old art doesn't do it justice either.
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Anybody else having a problem where their fleet names are constantly changed to Fleet No.4?
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>>14310681
No. I have a problem where my fleet names are constantly changed to "Kill yourself". The solution to your problem can probably help mine too.
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>>14310681
No, I don't know how that even happens.
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>>14310680
Simplicity has a charm of its own. All those bells and whistles were unnecessary.
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>>14310689
I have no idea. I'm using Zharay's KCV fork if that tells you anything.
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>>14310704
Holy fucking shit
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>>14310704
Crap, meant Gakada.
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>>14310674
>inferior
>original sprite
Original sprite is shit. Kai Ni is 200% better.
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>>14310676

Is the arcade game ever actually going to come out?
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>>14310904
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>>14310904
Arcade game's already out, do you mean the Vita?
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Nice, 6 luck
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>>14310951
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/659278486897430528

“KanColle Arcade delayed until spring 2016”, says KanColle_STAFF.
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https://twitter.com/Flim_13/status/661305520028946432
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>>14310031
Glorious Royal Navy of course.
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>>14310031
USSR subs.
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Where can I see the rarity of ships on the wiki?
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>>14311244
Rarity is super subjective but if you want backgrounds, http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship
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The vita game is going to be delayed again because of this event, won't it?
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I love >small c guy
There, I said it. I await his posts, often excited in anticipation every time someone writes "Kancolle".
Because it's said that opposites attract each other, I've begun using
>capitalC
As my main password. Thank you for entering my life.
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>>14311422
Jianshou.
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>>14311422
Interesting。
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What should I buy for my office next?
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>>14311422
I just stole your account and you money.
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>>14311471
A better hoe.
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>>14311471
You already got the best furniture except for window. Now it's just about getting more variety, flavors of the season and ship models.
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>>14311471
Iona model ship.
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>>14311471
I'd say "better carpet", but unfortunately there are none.
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>>14311471
That looks pretty nice except the window.
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Which fairy do you identify as, /jp/?
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>>14311570
Cirno
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Is there such a thing is a canon admiral? Are there any information on him?
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>>14311579
>him
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>>14311579
It's you
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>>14311579
It's me.
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>>14311585
No me
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>>14311585
No it's them.
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>>14311582
It ain't me.
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>>14311592
Vietnamese ships?
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>>14311579
If it's not this guy, it might as well be a T head TTK.
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What's the correct placement of the 4BBs for 4-5 again?
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>>14311578
Chiruno
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>>14311647
You should know that if you got past World 2.
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>>14309046
Jintsuu 98
Yukikaze 99
Satsuki 89
Mikazuki 82
Hamakaze 79

Sure is easy event, I even got all the historical branching boats.
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>>14311647
Post fleet.
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>>14311692
This bunch of chokers
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>>14311704
Do they all have sanshiki, or do any of them have flares or searchlight?
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>>14311704
All 4 have sanshiki, double guns and a Yamato plane except Yamashiro who has Zuiun 12 instead.

The CVs have 1 Reppuu, 1 Reppuu 601, a 601 Suisei and a Saiun/Recon plane.
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>>14311704
Go middle 3BB3CV instead
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>>14311712
In that case either Musashi flag or 4th slot, and Roma goes into the other. 2nd and 3rd are Fusou/Kirishima, in either order.
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>>14311704
>he can't beat it with megane power
What the fuck is going on?
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>>14311721
12k fuel and 30 buckets wasted. If this keeps up much longer I won't finish the event.
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>using the 4-5 meme fleet
Why do people keep listening?
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>>14311704
That's what you get for using heavy fleet.

5 runs, 5 kills, 3 buckets per sortie.
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>>14311731
Can I have some of your luck?
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>>14311726

Nigga are you fucking serious?

5BB1CV

>>14311729

And what would you use?
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>>14311731
I've never once managed a kill with such a weak fleet. Only ever reached the boss like twice.
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>>14311734
A variation of >>14311731

Exact same results for me this month too, 5 runs 5 kills and under 20 buckets total.
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>>14311737
What you should do is git gud scrub
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>>14311735
I was browsing /艦これ/ yesterday and stumbled upon a 妊娠ス, I decided to check it and then a guy posted this in the middle of the thread.

Do you have any idea of how fucking mad I was?
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>>14311733
Just use your CAs. It never took me more than 12 runs with 3-4 CA(V)s. Usually it's 7-9 runs.

>>14311737
Did you use AP Shell on BB and 4-5 torpedo bombers on CVs? Theoretically BB should be on top for first node but Fusou is high level already.
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>>14311704
Don't use meme fleet, you're only asking for trouble.
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>>14311712
Does 4-5 really need 2 recon planes' worth of LOS?
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>>14311750

I don't know who you are, but I will find you and I will buy you a beer.

and possibly marry you because megane power
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>>14311751
Only Midway event required Recon for LoS.
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>>14311749
I always put sanshiki on them. And on my CA(V)s as well. I tried 2 BB 3 CA(V) 1 CV and 1 BB 3 CA(V) 2 CV, and both failed.

You mean I should be putting AP shell on my BBs instead?
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>CA(V)s can one-hit Darwin with a sanshiki DA
>They still use 5BB and get fucked by the shit route

Why
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>>14311751
Do you hate double attack that much?
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>>14311704
>4BB
>2CV
Do you hate resources or something?
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>>14311767
I thought it'd only take a single run. Two days later...
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>>14311763
Was talking about having both Saiun and a contact plane when you can put another bomber in instead.
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>>14311771
Is it really worth it when the biggest available slot is 6?
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>>14311757
>both failed
I bet you were using potatos or monkeys or both.
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>>14311757
Yes. With Sanshiki battleships suck, mere 50% double attack rate. If you give them AP Shell, it jumps to ~70% chance of special attack. It helps vs Ta/Ne on the way and on boss node because they have higher chance of killing Ru Kai, Ne-elite or transport in one shot.
If you put battleship as flagship she'll be guaranteed to start the second shelling on first node and third node, meaning you have to survive one Ta attack at most. With carriers killing two enemies on average, the chance of targeting Ta at the start of battle is decent too so you want to make sure it dies when targeted - single attack might fail to disable Ta.
The only time I caught chuuha on the way this month was during final kill, when Nu hit Ashigara for 30+ in air strike (how the fuck).

As for damage vs boss with AP Shell, see pic related. A shame that Prinz, Kaga and Shoukaku didn't crit, it would have been a day time clear.
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>>14311761
Because every single fucking time the CA(V)s always get crit to taiha even before I can reach the preboss.
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>>14311761
Take the middle route family. That battle against Naka is a pisstake due to AA formation.
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>>14311785
Ta-chan needs a crit or green T to taiha a full HP CA. It happens but shouldn't be super common.
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>>14311789
Well I have no fucking idea how it happens so often either.

I've even eaten a crit to red on the sub node before.
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>>14311761
It works fine for me, I don't care, use whatever you want.
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>>14311785
What?
The 2CV composition has a super high success rate and is the superior composition during the initial form. I only use the 1CV comp for final form to bring sanshiki users.
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>>14311780
I'll try it this month and report back.

I get this feeling that this one Ta attack I'm going to let through will fuck me over again, though.
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>>14311805
It doesn't matter which comp I use, both comps always fuck me over.
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>>14311821
Post your comp then, you're probably using something shitty.
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>>14311821
Is this gut feeling or do you actually keep a tally?
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>>14311821
I feel that the evasion stat really does matter here. Using slower ships feels like a handicap with Ru kai and Awakened Wanko.
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>>14309861
This is how NTR feels? ;_;
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>>14311825
http://aircalc.net/index.htm?1IQBCuqggeCwg8KC772j77-_77-_4ZO_0ZBS4YC74YON4YONzanTqE3hgLHhgIbQhtKwTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==
This one is probably the closest to the one you're using.

I might be able to improve on the plane setup with the cranes. I'm not too hopeful though.

>>14311835
Nah, I lost count after the 20th failure with 3 CA(V)s.

>>14311837
I think I can do away with the BBV this time. I'll have to see.
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>>14311857
Where's your Saiun?
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>>14311857
I don't get it. Why aren't you using Murata on Kaga 46slot?
Actually the better question is, why are you using her when Zuizui is available?
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>>14310339
Are others countries fighting the abyssals too?
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>>14311882
It only works if they had a WW2 navy.
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>>14311873
Where's your Tomonaga?
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>>14311892
Forgot about it. Thing is, two Reppuu are enough and not bringing Saiun is stupid..
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>>14311896
>Reppuu
>not Iwamoto T53
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>>14311899
Fuck your 80hr expedition.
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>>14311903
I did that shit last month already for my 2nd catapult, you don't have to do it again after that.
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>>14311873
>>14311896
>Saiun
Is it for contact?

>>14311874
>I don't get it. Why aren't you using Murata on Kaga 46slot?
I figured that doing that was only for event setup. Well I can try it.

>Actually the better question is, why are you using her when Zuizui is available?
My cranes are level 90+ but I only got around to remodelling Shoukaku Kai 2 last week. Haven't gotten around to Zuikaku yet.

I'll have them ready by the time I next attempt 4-5. As well as the new planes.
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>>14311855
She's a rough and tough defender, she'd never do that unlike other girls who are not to be named.
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>>14311915
For preventing red T. It's a bother on 4-5.
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>>14310607
If you like T-Rex.
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>>14311930
Is it a bother along the way as well? My problem with 3 CA(V) setup is that they always get crit to red before the preboss.

Is Ta able to crit them to red in red T?
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>>14311945
Don't bother.
10% chance of saiun working isn't worth sacrificing a slot for a bomber. Just stack more bombers.
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>>14311873
>>14311874
>>14311930
>>14311952
This conflicting information.
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>>14311945
>>14311957
You need Saiun. It will bite you in the ass if you get red T at the boss. It is non-negotiable.
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>>14311963
Yeah, if I can even fucking reach there in the first place.
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>>14311966
You need the evasion placebo if they will not hit the right targets. What are even their levels?
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>>14311972
All my CA(V)s are level 80+ since I've been keeping their levels close together. They're the ones that always get crit to red. Do I need them to be level 99 or something?
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>>14311945
It's more about disabling Ta which isn't likely with red T and you get scratched a lot in red T meaning there's higher rate of chuuha/taiha on later nodes. Red T on boss also means that Ru Kai is almost untouchable.

>>14311952
Saiun also provides contact bonus. And no, bomber isn't worth more.

>>14311966
Saiun has no negative effect on the route, so what was the point of your post? Why did you make it?
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>>14311982
>It's more about disabling Ta which isn't likely with red T and you get scratched a lot in red T meaning there's higher rate of chuuha/taiha on later nodes.
At least I can actually survive the Ta node with red T, you know. Anything else and I go straight home.

>Red T on boss also means that Ru Kai is almost untouchable.
As before, boss node isn't my main concern right now.

>Saiun has no negative effect on the route, so what was the point of your post? Why did you make it?
Red T would reduce chances of Ta hitting my ships to red even with a crit, wouldn't it? A Saiun would remove chances of red T.
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>>14311979
Almost all CAs evasion can reach 80. That's a lot since a level 80 CA might have 60 or 70 evasion. All my CAs are level 97.
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>jap player
>90% boss 94% B+ rank
>me
>70% boss 70% B+ rank
using literally same setup of ro, shioi, hachi (SSV), 3SS, observed over months
this ``luck'' is quite bullshit
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>>14311991
Well shit, time to spend more time at 3-3.

Do I bring Tone-class CAV or some hard-hitting CA (bobships or Choukai) to 4-5?
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>>14311990
Surviving Ta is a norm regardless of engagement. Post your fleet.

Red T increases amount of scratch you get. As for Ta's crit, it depends on targeted ship and formation.
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>>14311998
It's usually Fusou-class flagship + 3 CA(V) + Taihou + Kaga when I use 2 CV setup. CA(V) are usually Tone-class CAV and either a bobship or Choukai.

And I take it I shouldn't be using line ahead on that node?
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>>14312001
She never was.
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>>14312003
I hope Fusou holds an AP Shell.
You should always use Line Ahead unless you want to kill a flagship sub.
I meant Ta's formation. On first node it's LA or DL and on third it's DL or Diamond.
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>>14312001
The best ship everyone forgot about.
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>>14312001
PvP only.
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>>14312015
The worst event reward that no one ever uses.
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>>14312019
If she gave the exp bonus without being the flagship I'd actually use her.
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>>14312011
Not like it matters much since the Fusou-class rarely aims Ta in the first shelling phase either. All Ta needs is one hit on my CV.

Didn't really keep track on Ta's formation on the 3rd node, I rarely ever got there to begin with. On the first node it's the same regardless of double line or line ahead, at least it seems that way.
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>>14312001
useless piece of shit
wud scrap
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