Explain to me the meme about "mass immigration now". Most of immigrants moved to Europe in 60s-70s during the post-war economy boom. You have a very strict immigration laws now. You faced mass immigration 40 years ago, not now.
And explain to me why do everyone get triggered on Syrian refugees now? You got one million of them on 500 millions of European population, it's an extremely small number, but EU made deal with Turkey about turning refugees back and you had a mass discussion in media and shit. You know, Turkey has 3 millions of them.
>>58183052
>Explain to me the meme about "mass immigration now".
Because a lot of people are coming to us, it's called mass immigration.
>Most of immigrants moved to Europe in 60s-70s during the post-war economy boom.
That may be right and fact is, that it has shown to be a problem for us. (Turks not assimilating and islamism/terrorism hitting the native population)
>And explain to me why do everyone get triggered on Syrian refugees now?
It's not them but every Jamal and Durka Durka claiming to be one. They don't run from wars, political prosecution or anything.
>You know, Turkey has 3 millions of them.
And it's a shithole. In Germany migrants get money, food, medical attention and housing.
I hope this helps, tovarish.
>>58184045
They are muslims, mass importing muslims never turned out to be good.
>>58183052
Hy типa oни мycлимы, вoт пoчeмy. Tы жe и caм нe paд мaccoвoмy пpитoкy мycлимcких чypoк c qoqzaza.
>>58185895
Я пpo дpyгoe. Ceйчac-тo никaкoй мaccoвoй мигpaции нeт. Oнa былa 40 лeт нaзaд. Дa и y нac c Кaвкaзa eдиницы пoнaeзжaют, в ocнoвнoм нapoд eдeт co Cpeднeй Aзии, дa и y нac oтличнaя oт Eвpoпки cитyaция - aзиaты тaкиe жe coвки пo мeнтaлитeтy. Aлco, кaкaя нaхyй peлигия, тyт дeлo в кyльтype. Oмeжныe yзбeки и чeчeны кaкиe-нибyдь - coвepшeннo paзнoe дeлo.
>>58185602
You misunderstood. I mean that there are no mass immigration to Europe now, inflow of people you get now is incomparable to amount you had in 70s, for example.
>>58185671
It's not mass, not all of them are Muslims (not talking about your statement that religion means more than culture/nationality).
>>58183052
>I don't know what I am talking about: the post
>>58187852
I know what I'm talking about. Europeans here complain about mass immigration but there is no mass immigration now, they had it many years ago.
Because they are a threat to our welfare states, which are already working bad for another reasons, they are threat because most immigrants are muslims (who by definition are the antagonism of Europe) and they are a threat for the workers who had fought hard in order t have good salaries and working condition and with mass third world immigration that salaries fall. I'm a proud Spaniard who will never accept that Muslim scum in my county because my ancestors fought against them.
>>58183052
Practically nobody emigrated here before 90s nor did we take more than a handful of war refugees into our country.
>>58184045
They are mostly not Syrians but people from other shitholes who take advantage of the lack of border control and screening processes. They are trying to abuse our welfare system while already committing numerous crimes (mainly sexual assaults) in their destination countries. People don't want raping Muslim gangs wandering the streets of their formerly safe and homogenous countries. The numbers are proportionally high as well in the few countries they want to go to which both reduces safety and causes massive economical stress and housing problems.
>>58189662
Fuck, why are you all so stupid. I don't speak about the reasons you hate immigrants (nationalism, xenophobia etc are usual things) I ask you why do you complain about mass immigration while it's the issue of the past and you don't have any mass immigration anymore?
Btw why are you all say about Muslims at all, it's weird. Arabs are not the same with Pakistan peoples or Turks.
>>58183052
>Explain to me the meme about "mass immigration now"
The old people are affraid of anything and some of the youth is in the middle of an identity crisis. Add to that the economic crisis, and you have your meme.
Fucking idiots everywhere, I'd like to immigrate to another planete myself to escape from them all.
>>58190068
And you don't have any mass immigration right now in Finland.
>They are trying to abuse our welfare system while already committing numerous crimes (mainly sexual assaults) in their destination countries. People don't want raping Muslim gangs wandering the streets
Don't you think it's stupid to blame all refugees in commiting crimes or call majority of them false Syrians?
>>58190100
We had mass immigration, and we still do now. Part of why it's such a big problem is that it didn't stop, and coupled with how many we already had it's going to be a huge problem for the demographics of our countries.
>>58190311
For example, see this figure here.
>>58190251
>>>58190068 (You)
>And you don't have any mass immigration right now in Finland.
>>They are trying to abuse our welfare system while already committing numerous crimes (mainly sexual assaults) in their destination countries. People don't want raping Muslim gangs wandering the streets
>Don't you think it's stupid to blame all refugees in commiting crimes or call majority of them false Syrians?
Of the 15k+ or however many people have come here so far less than 300 have been Syrians iirc. Their crime rates are higher than that of native population.
>>58190215
It's the usual statistics, Europe had loose immigration laws in the post-war era and ton of people moved there but since the early 80s laws are becoming more and more strict. It's very difficult to move to Europe now and you have a very small inflow of people now.
>>58190401
Source: www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census-analysis/immigration-patterns-and-characteristics-of-non-uk-born-population-groups-in-england-and-wales/chd-figure-1.xls
![Asylumapplicants[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yTpBMz6.jpg "Asylumapplicants[1].jpg")
>>58190543
Even after the big early 2000s boom there was a decline, the more recent numbers are still far higher than in the mid 20th century.
>>58190311
But your immigration laws now make it almost impossible for non-European to move to Britain. The last chance we had was the skilled migration program in mid 00s but it was closed shortly after beggining.
>>58190624
Forgot the source
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/455570/asylum1-q2-2015-tabs.ods
>>58190666
Clearly that's not the case when you look at the figures though, is it?
>>58190519
I am aware of that.
![net-migratinon-91-14-600x389[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/OoKPSt0.png "net-migratinon-91-14-600x389[1].png")
>>58190743
Maybe the UK for whatever political reasons just doesn't want Russians. I'm not going to say it's because you guys are consider "too western and white". But it's probably because you aren't dark enough.
>>58190743
Man, your laws show us the opposite. They are becoming more and more strict day to day. This is the reality. I'd like to move to Europe but the only real way to do it is to make up a really good coolstory, hire good lawyer and ask for asylum or be an ultra-class specialist invited directly by an employer. Both are not affordable for most of people. You just can't have more immigrants now than you had in 70s with very loose laws.
>>58190251
Retarded russian. This is how many syrians we g et.
![article-2525144-1A2AE42D00000578-60_634x390[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sSMcAmL.jpg "article-2525144-1A2AE42D00000578-60_634x390[1].jpg")
>>58190977
The reality is though, that immigration is on the increase. Try being Indian or Pakistani and you might get in easier.
>>58190937
Laws are equal for anyone, they aren't different for Russians, Chinese, Arabs etc and of course they aren't based on skin colour (I guess only genuine poltards can think like that).
![figure1_tcm77-346269[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/xjEWyEo.png "figure1_tcm77-346269[1].png")
>>58191100
Maybe Russians just aren't as good at emigrating as all of these people that actually are getting into the country.
>>58191059
Don't you understand that this is basically impossible? Your laws are equal for anyone and very strict.
>>58183052
The thing is people are immigrating via assylum in a way in which it is extremely difficult to actually mantain their eligibility for it, especially when they enter the country illegally.
How is your economy doing?
>>58183052
Also someone explain this
They are refugees, and won't stay in Europe forever yes? Like when isis is defeated they'll be sent back, no?
![UK-net-migration-since-19911[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/kvzBdRK.png "UK-net-migration-since-19911[1].png")
>>58191212
>strict
I'd hate to see how the face of London would change if the laws were loose, then.
>>58191212
>>58191209
It's easy to explain, British laws are harsh for non-Europeans but Romanians, Poles and other EU poorfags have a right to come and work as EU citizens meanwhile borders are closed for non-Europeans.
>>58191212
>Don't you understand that this is basically impossible?
It's not.
>but muh laws
We don't have impartial robots interpreting the laws and making the decisions. Men are given harsher sentences than women for the same crime in the US and in the UK, despite the laws being equal.
Please stop posting.
>>58191416
Romanians are in the EU now. How do you account for the large numbers of Nigerian, Pakistani, Indian, Jamaican and Bangladeshi immigrants to the UK?
>>58191405
As I said, non European immigration decreasing due to your draconian laws. So what "mass immigration" you're talking about then? It's clear meme of rightards.
>>58191329
Don't worry, Gamal. Your terror buddies will be safe and sound in Europe for decades. Only few governments oppose permanent housing and citizenship for migrants.
>>58191606
>a tiny decline from a recent peak means that the numbers are less than earlier, despite actually being more.
You don't know what you're talking about.
>>58191606
>So what "mass immigration" you're talking about then?
Yep, as inexistent as Russian annexation of Crimea. No proofs whatsoever :^)
>>58191750
Wtf
Pls no u.s. V2
>>58191931
>u.s. V2
Wat?
>>58191527
They came in 60s-70s and most of black people you see now are descendants of people who came in the past.
>>58191432
There is no place for interpretation in European laws. Except for Britain, which has even more strict laws, laws in the rest of the Europe include immigration on a base of marriage, blue card program ( find an employer in Europe and move there), some countries allow to stay after education (very expensive) and you can get an asylum (but you have to have proofs that you were chased and policed didn't do anything, if you have an option to move to the other region and live calmly you would be sent back, discrimination is not a reason for giving asylum, so if you're gay and come to Europe asking for asylum you would be sent back, as well as Donbass cockhole would be sent back because he could move to the other region of Ukraine where he would not face war).
>>58192094
If they were already here then they would legally be classed as "British Citizens" and not as immigrants or foreign born, so you're wrong.
>>58192054
USA began from immigrants
I'm hoping you don't become like that, even though some parts of you already are(rip Paris)
>>58191750
>permanent housing and citizenship for migrants.
Fuck, why are you so ignorant? I've written here briefly ways you can move to Europe. Those roads are very narrow. You have almost closed Europe in last 20 years but you keep complaining about mass immigration while it's not a thing for at least 20-30 years.
>>58191212
They're only equal on paper you retard.
Once you're in you drag your extended family in with you which inflates the numbers.
Colonialism is a bitch at times.
>>58192162
I talk about people you see on the streets. Most of non-British born are poles and Romanians but you usually complain about non-European immigration.
OP do you live under a rock?
>>58183052
Because those immigrants who moved here were contributing to the boom. Those who are coming now, are not. They're coming here to leech off of our welfare systems and contribute absolutely fucking nothing to our way of life. They are cancerous scum.
>>58184045
>it's only one million people!
And next year it will be another million, and another 2 million the year after, and five million the year after that.
Fuck them. Europe is not responsible for the rest of the world. Fix your own fucking countries you little cunts.
>>58192435
They're literally not. They're from ex-colonial lands, mainly the Indian subcontinent.
>let me tell you about your country
>>58192337
There are no place for interpretation in your laws and relatives you can bring in are very limited now (usually children, parents and spouse, very few number of EU countries allow to bring siblings.)
OP do you live in fucking Siberia or what
>>58190100
>mass immigration can only happen once!
What the fuck do you call a million or more people moving somewhere?
>Mass migration refers to the migration of large groups of people from one geographical area to another
This is mass migration.
>>58190100
>Arabs are not the same as Pakis
They're just as fucking cancerous, they are scum. You know how many doctors here have faked their qualifications and been frauds? Guess how many were Irish. None. Guess how many were from Pakistan.
>>58192094
>you can get an asylum (but you have to have proofs that you were chased and policed didn't do anything, if you have an option to move to the other region and live calmly you would be sent back
90% of all asylum applications here are lies, the Minister came out and said we need to tighten legislation a few years ago.
Even with 90% of them not being asylum seekers, you know how many of them were sent home? Next to none, because they were allowed to stay here for fucking years while their "human rights" lawyers made sure to fill their pockets with tax payer money. Once they had been here for 5 years, they were told you can stay on "humanitarian grounds".
Each fucking case costs us millions because we have to take them in, house them, clothe them, feed them, give them money, educate them...
Fuck them, I'd prefer if Ireland withdrew from the refugee convention entirely and only took who we wanted.
>>58192278
Some high profile politicians and a lot of German citizens are already starting to spread their version of history, where immigrants ("Gastarbeiter") built up Germany after the war.
Hate on and ignorance of German culture and identity is also wide spread.
>>58192317
You keep repeating yourself as if you think this might make it true what you write. There are SUDDENLY hundreds of thousands illegal migrants in the EU and especially Germany. The numbers are quite big and unusual. There is no need to compare them to migration waves in the past. And when I take your thesis, that "roads to Europe are narrow", then it's an even more unusual event.
What are you really trying to say? I don't get it.
>>58193039
>Hate on and ignorance of German culture and identity is also wide spread.
I'm pretty shocked as just how many people voted for the German Left party... And that the police were told they couldn't spy on them any more (despite them being actual hard-line Commies) because it was unconstitutional.
If Germany collapses, you can come here, but only if you vote Fine Gael.
>>58193039
What the fuck man
I did see that video where Merkel was disgusted by the German flag, but come on are the people okay with this?
>>58193411
>I did see that video where Merkel was disgusted by the German flag
This is rather irrelevant. I am actually kinda okay with what she did, because in my opinion Germany and thus its symbol of black-red-gold is not a toy for parties and politicians to wave around on election day. Of course it's entirely possible that she had something different in mind.
A lot of people flat out hate Germany though and the rest is ignorant and buys plastic flags during the football world championship. I think both groups suck hard.
